 think fast days really are always the better days. Chris you know we don't look at fundamentals, I see what you wrote. I was you know I rated both these things but actually Sina is looking better but I did like Sina. And Kuala Bear I think you have I think your platform my guess is but I could be incorrect unless you're looking at the volume somewhere wrong is that you are when you sign in your platform is looking at the volume from the moment you sign in not from the moment that the volume starts trading on the stock on the day like for example if you don't have this volume here then you're your platform for whatever reason doesn't start the volume until you log in so that's why I think you have that that I want to somebody can change the broker if it's just broker I know some brokers are like that you'd actually have to go look at the chart and look at the volume to see that this actually has volume so that's what I'm thinking here why you said low volume because this isn't low volume V-SERI I don't like Brent I should see your email I don't know really what to say about Twitter you don't really have a lot of time to talk about it right now but everybody should have gotten Twitter pieces one is these five cent things too I didn't realize but which is fine okay it doesn't look like it's moving whoa sign is off wow passes off didn't even get up down wow and that too okay stop's gonna be I'm giving this wide 60 because of the spread this isn't gonna be a small stop let's do 85 by 60 85 by 60 carb but let's just do it at 23 here do it do it right here you take it right here and get in and put the stop at 60 just do it that's a little bit better than what I had it originally and I think we have plenty of room carb be in it be in it be in it be in it it's kind of slow here but the spread starting up I don't know looked a little bit wider earlier so that would be safe and sorry I'm gonna spy it all today I don't think there's anything here that's gonna tell us anything about carb actually I don't see anything that really set up pass completely flipped okay so I'm in this if you didn't do it you have time to get in here you can get in here if you want and stop is way above maybe we should give it 70 because I'm looking at the spread again here now back let's give it 10 more cents because the spread keeps changing put it at 70 oh there it doesn't matter I just got taken out wow I barely have time to move it no I just got taken out here we're gonna sit here and keep watching it let's see where I got filled in that I got filled through the number but no I actually got filled above 70 but it is what it is let's just keep watching this here that was it was a hard green bar if you if you didn't have time to change it you got filled better than I did because I got filled through even 70 so let's just keep watching carb maybe I should have waited till 80 all right we're gonna retake this question is watch we're gonna give it the spread continues to continue to change so you have to be out of this I took the stop it filled me through the stop but that's life let's see if we can get this to go here in our favor that was a pretty good entry to just wait so I need a quick trade did I may not get it VCR a I didn't like and did this do anything 20 cents it's a good other one grfs all right I'm back on top of carb I'm gonna be tight with this stop this time around 95 29 by 95 carb this shouldn't go back up again at all 29 by 95 carb I'm gonna be back on it when it hits it didn't hit yet us did not do anything right it ended up gapping up Steven 29 by 95 carb if this hits I'm not going after VCR a it's too late it moved 20 some cents they're quick besides the fact the markets rallying here this pushed back want to make sure this holds I think the market's gonna be very tricky today don't jump the gun on this oh crap there it is it hit whatever you got filled just put the stop in a 95 just put the stop in a 95 it's trading weird it's trading weird I had a bad film on the stop and now all of a sudden the spread is 20 cents this is trading strange I mean I'm in it again here now I'm not gonna worry about it but just make sure that you do have the stop in and I'm not giving it any more room it shouldn't back up at all if it does it's not gonna work so I'm just gonna be out of 95 and since it got filled so poorly the first time that'll have to be it so if you're in this you're in it that was the other one this did not oh this I know this didn't end up gapping down I thought it capped up no it didn't it did get down but it flipped so it's rallying now so there'd be nothing to short here you know we could have done we could have done Twitter I forgot about this morning why didn't I think about this this morning shoot just look at this of course this may not even be setting up because the market carbs just trading really bizarre no this is lower Twitter's lower gosh we do two things that would be very risky on a short day for me I still want to babysit this let it let this drop I'm most inclined to do two things but I don't want to get crazy okay who's in the car and I have a feeling some of you didn't take the first stop yes the other day who was it Bren or somebody emailed me they didn't they never had a stop in the one that did stop and then never reset up which I'd emailed everyone about but actually it never reset up here this goes what the heck was it whatever we did that didn't reset up we took a stop and it didn't work that I sent an email out to watch it at certain numbers but the numbers never hit if you don't put a stop in if you're in danger of losing more than you think yes this got stopped and now this is working again and if you didn't have a stop in then obviously you didn't take the loss and this goes on to work you will never have taken the loss and this looks like it's going to go now but it's still better to have the stop in because you could lose two three hours in one train and something can move against you really quickly and the other one from the other day didn't really here this is going to go I'm glad we stayed on top of it yeah that was it that was the one that was it here I don't know why this is so bizarre today but it is I think we've traded this before sure that we have just let it fall like a rock here here it goes what a bugger what a bugger that that had to happen in that first tree here let it go it's going to go right down to 22 just let it drop just let it drop this is still working out according to my schedule thank you let this drop this is going to bounce anywhere at all now yay so glad I stayed on top of that so this is very tricky very trickery and Twitter probably follows again too I'm not going to do this if you run a short Twitter if you feel like trading all day but stop over the high targets 30 though not a massive target here but the market flips this will flip today too so I don't think that's worth taking the chance this is working spread was weird traded bizarre didn't even look like it was open on time I don't know it's just bizarre now this spreads 17 cents show again you could scalp out of a little bit when we get a drop in here or if you even retook it if you're worried about it going you could get out of half or something if you took the first lofts and retook it with me you could scalp out of a little bit here this is a little bit of a move in here okay so again it depends how you're playing it as far as getting in this is 50 some cents or thereabouts so this is you know you could just gonna break even here if you don't want to deal with this because this didn't work the way that I originally thought it would today immediately so I mean you could just come back break even for the day here if you want are you waiting for it to drop I think this is very spreading because it's strange because it's tight and then it's wide and then it's even wider stock and move out here it goes here did it to do here thank you for cooperating yay I'm so good we went back right into it I think it's gonna go right down to 22 no one's gonna buy this here now so 55 is the low let's watch it there you could you could get out of it there I'm gonna hold it just tad smidgen baby more market could be dropping off here now I don't know gap down to the market rally didn't really come anywhere so predictable that the market was gonna push up into that resistance and drop again in this in the 200 premium average I mean you could have predicted that it's like whatever here we go here we go nice just let it drop it's gonna go right down in 22 we're gonna have a nice trade even though we took the stop this is a great entry this is a dollar right here with a nice trade here it goes here here did it did it uh so let's try to get this to break 30 if we can 35 gosh there's so much to look at but none of it was good and this is such as this is a strangest thing we traded all year but it looks like it's moving that it doesn't move then it has it then the spread goes whoa okay here we go you could get out right here if you want you know 35 37 no if I get out of this right here to drop another dollar it's like it absolutely will with it going over 60 I can't I'm gonna be smart today I'm gonna be common sense says don't hold it because I don't have the time I do think it goes to 22 amount it do whatever you want to do I think it goes to 22 I think it can be rock and roll under 22 with the market here for drops I I can't because of my schedule so I think it was a good decision to me and actually this brings up one quick thing I'm gonna say as a lecture and then I go over to go so I can get on with my day I I had a mentoring session with gala had last night he's not here today he is managing trades poorly I'm gonna use him as example though so that some of you can learn from some mistakes that he's making which some of you may never make because it because like you just wouldn't do some of these things but whether it's a day trader an option trade when you're looking for a percentage or that you're looking to make or earn or even a target as far as a dollar number you have to have common sense about it as far as the area it's this is an exact science now I'm gonna use him as an example because because this is this is just an insane example he was in an IBM option and he was up he risked $300 he was up to 50 two days ago in here he didn't get out I want him to I'm forcing him to make a money manager planet will stick to he really he keeps saying he's going to do this and that he says well he's going to wait till it goes 100% show because it was $50 off the 100% that he risked he did not exit the trade this day he was down yesterday he's down more today now the trade still on he has a week left but I think he misses exit so my point to him yesterday when I talked to him is this is not an exact science it's this so this guy over here that we just did now look this looks good this looks amazing could this go to 22 yes but as far as I'm concerned where I just got out I got it do you know what I'm saying it's like perfect do you know what you know what I'm saying like 30 cents from the target 40 cents from the target that's it you did it you know what I'm saying it's like yes you could hold this a little bit of more yes you could but it's like you don't know 100% that it's gonna go where it's gonna go at the time exactly this isn't an exact science does that make sense Hector's first-side trade he made money did you get out I mean you could get out here Hector you could hold it but it's your first trade I would suggest that you get out anyways he was he was then arguing with me because he said well I said I was gonna do 100% it wasn't 100% so that it was actually 83.3% and I said you know then you need to do between 60% and 100% you need to look to get out because it's never gonna be exactly it's not never but it's it's you can't you can't miss an opportunity to exit a trade with profit because it's not at exactly 22 or exactly 100% or exactly do you know what I'm saying that's the nuances with trading where you got to make decisions and you got to get a feel for it and the reason why you know it was very obvious exit for him to get out is because he only had one week left in the trade it was an option so he's a fixed time to get out he has not been booking profits correctly he was up it was real money and it was very obvious to me that the market was gonna do something unless it blew over and gapped up in big time the following day it was pretty obvious to me the market was gonna drop off because the market actually dropped off the day that the the day that the the day that the IBM was green market was actually red so it was obvious to me the market was gonna have some follow-through with that red it wasn't big but it was enough to pull the option that he was in was down but then he swore up and down to me that if he had risked 30 grand instead of 300 that he would have got out of your 25,000 profit see that's what makes no sense and see that's just that's just that's where he's at with his head where he won't take any money off unless it's a ridiculous amount of win or money or actual dollars and he can't risk $30,000 so we can't get out with $25,000 so he doesn't do anything right but one years ago when he used to risk more he didn't get out then so his logic just isn't even isn't even rational because he used to risk four or five thousand dollars in some of those options trades he'd be up to three thousand wouldn't get out because it wasn't a hundred percent and then he'd give that money back and then the money he lost at the trade so when you're in anything I fully believe that this could very well go and follow through but I have to leave today and so it looks like this is backing up looks like I had a good exit here it still could go Twitter same thing we had an amazing exit didn't go a little bit more oh look this is going crap did anyone do it we could have done this too in the back of my mind I was like if I didn't have to leave today we would have done this too but you could have done this did anyone do it I said just take in put the sub over the high look this is going and actually Elaine are you in here I don't know if you're in here or not it's probably too late now to buy a put which I know you're doing options you could have bought a put in this I didn't feel the need to call an option trade in this though yesterday because I didn't really have the move that I expected it to yesterday in the day of the earnings and the market was a crap shoot today where it would gap now this is going just broke 30 so anyways if you're in this it's okay if you have time to let it play on out but if you want to be done in the morning I think it's the best option the days that I've tried to hold things or whatever it's a pain in the butt it's just it's always pain in the butt it's a pain in the butt to do it and sometimes it would take a lot some more than we can go back in the afternoon that's a pain in the butt you know today and yesterday were perfect days the fact we took a stop here it is what it is but actually this really didn't do anything wrong so it was kind of aggressive in here but what are you gonna do anyways my point that I'm making which was to him was valid so he didn't get out he's up 250 but he would have got out if he was at $25,000 profit but the percentage which we his rationalization was well I'm not getting out if it's not not a hundred percent okay well then why would you get out if he was 30 grand at 25,000 well it's a lot of money well 250 dollars is a lot of money if you have a small account so it doesn't it's you have to be rational about it in a common sense he's doing many things wrong but one of them is he's in his mind if the dollars aren't there then he's he doesn't want to do it but he's not going to ever get to that point because he's not being rational about taking out profits when he's up and in fact when you have less money you should be taking money out faster which I did say the other day you don't have the luxury of holding something if you are in a position where you need to be consistently booking profits to grow your account you have $2,000 in a trading account you're trying to get up to 10 well how's that going to happen everyone wants one big huge trade that he can make a million dollars and and get the count up or come back from a lost day like in one full swoop although that can happen it's not advised and it's very unrealistic there's no second setup in this brand did you not do did you not do the first one there's no second setup in this in fact this either just bases out and drops and breaks again or I don't I don't think this is going to rally up if it does and it resets up it's not going to be before I close out the room did you do this trade or did you not do this trade oh you did it all right twitter was a home run yesterday that century had a long time because of the size of a stop you'd like to get some more of those next week was what a break even day for me which day are you talking about I didn't retake EA it never reset up EA never reset up no today was not break even today was profit weren't you here didn't you do the trade didn't you hear the call all right let's go over really really quickly here and then I'm going to let everybody go first of all everyone should be up that followed me here today even if you took the one stop so what happened we shorted this here jump the gun a little bit okay jump the gun a bit anyways got in pooped over where I had the number okay I ended up getting filled at 75 wanted to well actually I originally had it at 60 then I put it to 70 got hit out at 75 okay then we reshorted it right in here or whatever time it was here this was the bar I got it and then it came all the way down no I got almost a dollar out of this and I did not lose a dollar in this trend trader did you not make any money in this today or did you not do it or you must not have done the trade I know you like that VCR A1 did you is this what you did I just didn't think this was going to go anywhere I just don't think I would have done this stop would have been about 70 cents and it ended up going about 30 cents if that so who's doing what I'm out of the car you should be up for the day if you took the stop I don't see any of their second set up in here if you didn't do this you didn't do it any quick questions from anyone in here no idea what we get next week we could have done twitter too but you know it's a lot to manage and also I took the stop and carb so if I had done this even though I didn't know this was going to drop off like two seconds after I looked at it but if I had I would have done it and had it you know a nicer day but anyways if this had stopped or taken longer to go it would have been stuck in the trade past 10 and so since I have to leave I just don't think that was a good idea but this worked I mean if I had done this I'm going to drop in five minutes after I said it I would definitely would have done it koala bear still in carb nice trader still waiting for your account all right listen have a great weekend everyone I'm feeling better thank god have a wonderful day and um I will see you all Monday hope you don't very good