 I think there's an intergenerational piece that's very important here, learning and working with young people is the most freeing and most inspiring part of doing the work that I do, seeing them in the fellowship, the younger fellows finding their way and having new ideas and things I never thought about and so they give me lots of energy, lots of ideas and lots of hope and I think that we forget how important it is to always have younger people and older people that cross-sectional, intergenerational dialogue happening in whatever we do.