 Hello everyone and welcome to a real conversation between two native English speakers I'm Adam Novus, and I am here with Liz Wade. Hello Liz Today we're having a conversation about the program how to use the word Okay Okay, okay Okay, see we just used it about three different ways there Before we get into this program make sure to like and subscribe to this channel Hit that little notification bell. It really is a great way to get content Content and it helps us out Of course, we also have the membership level if you click that little join button Under this or any of our videos you can learn more about that It's a great way to get extra content for a few dollars each month. It really helps support this channel and We love it lots of perks lots of good stuff there Okay, Liz did I miss anything there? Just that we have a really cool opportunity to have the scripts for every program Delivered to your inbox every Monday so that you can follow along with the program. That's a pretty cool thing But do people are those scripts do they have to give those back? No, you get to keep them. It's a PDF script that will come to your email inbox on Monday You can listen to every program. You can mark it up You can print it off and it's yours to keep and it's only a dollar a week about that So yeah, you can sign up for that on our website. Yeah Okay Let's dive into talking about Okay, so this program is it's a little different than some of our other programs which are about a person or Tell a story This program is about a word The word is okay You've probably heard that word too It can mean a lot of different things, but the general meaning is like agreement, right? Yeah, I think so. Maybe that's the most common Way that people apart from tone or context. Yeah, or like do you agree? That would be yeah, you know, it's a it's a word about agreement or disagreement Yeah, and the the bow. I mean as you can see in this program. It's So much more than that. Yes One of the things that I would be frustrated about if I was trying to learn English is Words can depending on how they're used mean the exact opposite What they or they can mean that both things right depending on how they're used and this is a word Although Adam I have to say that like, you know as this program says it's one of the most common words of English words like around the world. So maybe people already Yeah, sort of know those things it could be a word that has You know a lot of words come from some languages and they just get adopted into English or they go from English to other languages, so maybe okay is One of those meta words a word that is not just restricted to English. Maybe it's it's gotten it It's used in other languages. Although I do love the I know I've used although like a million times here I love at the end. There is a quote. I'm gonna find it About how this professor who's written this book about the word. Okay, basically kind of gives like a low-key insult To people in the United States Like here's the quote. It is strong about about the word. Okay. It is strong. It is simple people from the United States do not like complex ways of life and Okay, is about as short and simple as you can get So if you want to be short and simple and not complex just like people in the United States You can use the word. Okay, you know, I want to be insulted by that, but I think it's kind of true like I fully agree We like to reduce things to very simple One one side is right one side is wrong. Yeah Yeah, okay fair enough and okay is is about as simple as you can get. Well, it's not not necessarily true so in texting Sometimes people will just write K That is true. I've heard that's what the kids do Adam Which is even shorter no actually for okay the kids or the like cool people they text KK KK. Yeah, did you not know this? I I'm learning right now. Yeah, I am old. Do you see this white hair? I am an old man and I Don't take your if you're really cool and you're like and you're texting you don't text Okay, or okay a Y you text KK. I feel very strongly that okay a Y is just That's right out nobody Okay, so you should you would never text okay a Y as okay. No. Yeah, so if I was like hey, Adam Can you uh, I don't know can you do this video with me? And you'd be like, okay, how would you text it? I would say yep, I would do the letters. I would do the letters. Okay. I would do the letters. Okay. I How are you feeling today Adam? I'm feeling okay. Yeah, there you go. Yeah in that case, I think Okay, that usage of okay Also is a very Down the down the middle right like if so if you say how are you feeling and I say I'm okay What I'm trying to communicate is that I'm not Bad, I'm not feeling sick. I'm not feeling this but I'm also not like amazing It's like saying I'm fine. I'm fine There might be some good things depending on like how you said it if you were like Okay, or if you were like I'm okay. I'm okay right, so I like that too is a lot of in your Inflection all right. I'm gonna give you an emotion Yeah, you have to say you have to say the word okay with that emotion. Oh You're gonna say an emotion. I'm gonna say an emotion. Okay Exactly. Exactly. Don't start yet Okay Okay, okay, okay All right, I'm gonna go with we're gonna go with some easy ones just happy like something good happened Okay See I would go with okay. Oh, yeah much more. That's maybe an old person way to say it, but all right Anger Wow, this is a lot of pressure right now anger. I kind of have to have a okay I came to you and You've been waiting Because I wasn't there for the appointment and I just walk up and be like and I say to you. Hey, are you ready? Okay, so I actually tend to be a little sarcastic, so I'd be like, okay That would be my my angry okay, probably what about frustrated like Like okay Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. All right one more I You something has happened and you have to adjust your expectations Okay Yeah, that was good, too We're gonna have a whole check out our new spotlight channel where we just talk about the word okay. Yeah exactly Where we do a lot of like improv and yeah, yeah, I need to see I need to see yeah, okay acting Uh, yes, so the word okay is Would you write okay a y I? Well, I did want to I didn't want to touch on this because we kind of kind of talked about it a little bit earlier the one of the like Weird things about the word okay and people who are learning English would I would assume We would be really frustrated with is the fact that okay can be spelled two ways Right, so and some people even spell it a third way, so there's the letters Okay, my my preferred way either both lowercase or uppercase yes Depending on maybe like the formality so like if I was writing it I might say capital O Capital K, but if I was like texting I might just do two lowercase okay, right? Oh, we're gonna come back to that this in a second finish your thought okay um the other way is to say you see now I I know that I always say okay. You do say it a lot wow. It's a lot um The the second way would be capital O period capital K period So oh dot K dot and the third way would be all lowercase Okay, a why and so if you're writing that um Because okay is pretty much an informal word anyway. If you're writing any of those forms It all of them are acceptable How frustrating is that I would assume very it's not even based on context or anything. It's just They're all okay. I would make the case that in speech and In text you can use the word okay just fine but if you were Writing say in a school paper or an academic paper you would never use the word okay Unless someone unless you were quoting someone who was right in in dialogue in speech Yeah, so and so said that this thing was okay Right, but even then you you probably you would need to define it a little bit you would need to say like Um The school board member did not agree with the the new rule. She said this is okay So that you kind of get the context of what it is You would never just say it was okay because it it couldn't be clear without context in my opinion Right. That's that's maybe the point of it for me. I was thinking it's more of a It's more of like a word that would color things and give you thing give you a sense But if you wrote it people wouldn't know how to read it without that without the tone It's a word that requires a lot of spoken Right context to know do I mean okay or yeah, you know, okay Well, and this is like one of those things like in relationships, right where maybe somebody asks you like hey Are you okay? And you're like Yes, or yeah, I'm okay You know so It's almost like in yeah, like a word that Doesn't mean anything until it's used. Yeah. Yeah, that is interesting It's almost like a sound more like if I was like if you were like how you doing I was like, hmm, or yeah Yeah, you could tell We're just using the word okay to make a sound almost Yeah, it is true or it like it. Yeah, it's like a filler word Yeah, okay, so okay. Okay. It's just a filler word Hey, my brain is catching up, right, right. Yeah, it's it's a it's kind of like Put a point in the ground. Okay, and then you move on. Yeah, okay. I did find interesting about this program Going away from this a little bit to like where did the word okay come from? Yeah, that was interesting and I think it's super interesting that there are some examples in here from Different parts of the world where there are already well, there were already before kind of maybe English Took over the being the most common one There are different languages in different areas that sort of came up with that same Sound combination to make up the word that sounds like okay, hmm, right like is it there are some West Africa is it West African languages that are like, yes, okay, and then another Native American language, which is okay Like how crazy is that? Yeah, I have heard a similar thing about the word cut Really like this the and the sound Hmm is is also similarly to maybe okay. It's like a Yeah So it doesn't work Look at me, I know I don't know what it is in Spanish. Yeah, probably somebody's gonna write it's this in Spanish. Please do Yeah, it is we're gonna play is Adam right in the comments. What is the word cut in your native language? Oh Good question. Yeah, how many how many different versions would there be for to cut so if you have like a scissors I guess I should do that like this If we had like special effects then like the the bottom of this would like fall off exactly We're gonna that'll be 2025 when we're doing that level of production Right now. We're just the other part that I thought was really interesting about this Well, maybe not interesting but very funny to me is where it talks about how part of the part of the theory about where okay came from is this presidential election for Martin Van Buren and He was known as old Kinderhoek. No, that's not the one I want to say the all-correct one Because he used that to be old Kinderhoek is all correct And so one of the things that like people did in like what was this like the was it the 1900s or the 1800s? I'm looking at the script right now Yeah, 1800s, I think 1800s. Okay, so Then they thought it was funny to miss spell words as a as a joke and then Like just use their their like first letter. Yeah, like Who thinks that's funny? I don't know. Well humor has evolved a lot You know, yeah, I do think that yeah, so it was common to spell words incorrectly using the wrong letters as a joke Okay, ha ha See, do you see how I just said? Okay? Okay? Okay Yeah, I think Let us know in the comments if the word okay is a word you use a lot Yeah, that you're comfortable using was it one of the first words you learned in English or Have you never has anyone never I can't imagine there's no one If you're learning English, I would assume you're familiar with the word okay. Yeah, that's probable Yeah Well, we have been I Should say okay, which is my way of rounding up this program and saying okay You can find us now. I'm going to be hyper aware of how many times I say okay in this program from now on Exactly like the next time we record one or in a live show. I know you're just all self-conscious now Aren't you I'm always gonna be super self-conscious about it. Yeah Well Don't worry about it. It's okay. It's okay. It's all right. All right, so make sure you find us on Facebook Twitter like subscribe check out the Scripts by email on our website. There's a little button that says scripts by email and That's about it and if this is your first time here We should have said this at the beginning if you've made it all the way through this and haven't listened to the program We're talking about well. Thank you for sticking along for this long, but make sure you go check out that program How to use? Yeah, how to get in a slower version and an advanced version and a no music version if you get distracted easily by music Yeah, and you can also follow along with the script on our website at www.spotlightenglish.com Okay, until next time we hope you listen watch practice and learn spotlight out