 The political impulse and reverse state took a deeper crisis dimension yesterday as members of the State House of Assembly initiated impeachment moves along partisan lines. We speak out the house. Martin Amey Wule is deputy, Dumle Mau and Chief Judge of the State Justice Samuel Chibuzo Amadi as the first casualty reportedly. The government has actually denied suspending the Chief Judge or any other officer of state. Eight members of the State Legislature loyal to Governor Samuel Fubara impeached the speaker and his deputy. Not satisfied the eight lawmakers suspended the Chief Judge of the State Justice Amadi and directed the governor to appoint an acting Chief Judge for the state. The embattled governor who promised to speak out on the crisis before the weekend said he had never committed any impeachable offence to warrant his removal from office by the lawmakers. Some youths in support of the governor have taken to the streets in Potachal to decry the activities of the anti-Fubara lawmakers. Joining me to discuss this is Upunabo Unkotareya civil rights advocate. Upunabo welcome to plus politics. What is the state of affairs in reverse who will take the privilege of you being in situ in Potachot now? Well, uneasy calm pavots the air. We all see what happened two days ago, about 48 hours ago. When there was an impeachment move, the plan was to impeach the governor and eventually remove the governor. Before then the leader was removed from office and even the governor was shot at. This was he said by the deputy council of police officials, which I describe as mutiny. You can imagine if they had killed the governor, what would have happened? And before the deputy council of police officials to have shot at the governor, I may be smart to eat them with the eye. We have to investigate that. Was he directed to shoot the governor? And we also saw the tear gas and the can of the water repellence and so on. Hot water repellence and so on. That is what we are talking about the governor of the state. Once he appears at the scene, it is expected that the policeman will seize the total fire or whatever they had because the life of the governor was at stake. What does that mean? It simply means that they are acting on orders to ensure that the impeachment proceedings against the governor. And if that means it comes to serve and means they have to shoot. Excuse me, they have to kill the governor, they should kill him. That is just the interpretation. Let us not forget that. Meaning is not in the message but in the message used. And that really infuriated a lot of people who say that the governor has been a fixator for so long. Who felt that the hands of the governor have been fed thanks for so long. Who say we have to refer to the governor as angrily as the PGA to the former governor. There is no kind of name that they have not called the governor because of his demeanor. And he has put a lot, a lot of excesses from the fact about it. Now you can imagine the situation where we got more won at the tribunal, this court case at the tribunal. It was celebrated in Naguja. We tell the government itself. All members of the U.S. that has established a free job. The government has made a free job and so on. The governor started making calls in reverse. He was in reverse. He started making calls in reverse. To people to come and celebrate his victory with him in government house. Now why did that happen? Because somebody just wanted to prove to the world, especially the president of the country that he was charged. The man who invited them, the former governor, the F16 minister, was not the one who won at the tribunal. Was not the one who won the case in court. So what was it? Yes, no problem. He will celebrate. But it is expected that the person that the local government chairman and the House of Assembly members should celebrate with him is the governor of the state. If he was still the governor of the state, we all knew what happened when the traditional rulers left the reverse state and visited the then minister for transportation. And he came back and threatened the local government. Whoever, by that compression rule, some of them are grandfathers, then whoever left the state will be dethroned. But you will agree with me that the circumstances that brought Wike to the government house and the circumstances that brought the incumbent to the government house are quite different. He knew what he was binding to when he allowed himself to be used as Wike's backup game player. Well, I'm happy with your choice of words. You're just being very careful because you're an heir. You wanted to say something and you would do it quickly. I agree with that. Wike was quite instrumental to the emergence of Fubara's government state. No doubt about it. Against all odds, he fought for him. But it was a selfish fact. And why was it selfish fact? Fubara became the DFA government house. Then I was a special advisor in government house. And eventually became the accountant general. This is a man that helped walk the government of Wike. And you will agree with me that he felt safe in the hands of Fubara taking care of him. This was never wanted at any point in time. Or never dreamed of becoming the government of Wike's house. Never. So it didn't came as a shock to him that he was chosen at the last hour as the government to contest for the government of Wike's house. Not having said that. Let us also not forget the fact that yes, everybody, in the years that you were talking about, who assisted him, the journalists assisted him to become the government of Wike's house. How did he treat the journalists? He treated them with levity because he got a fee. So he got a job that had lost an election. That's the truth about it. Now nobody gets up in the morning to become the government. No matter how your dream is, nobody. Even the president of the country cannot just get a fubara kind of book. They don't just get up to say, I am the president that he is going to do. They are internal workers. You have to politic. And a lot of persons will come. Some will know, some will not do. Let me tell you, in most cases, those that assist you to achieve your aim are those that are unseen and unheard of. In most cases, those that you see on screen, starting every day that Mr. A is where you find it. I have to support Mr. A. And if you compare to those behind the scenes, I quite feel there is nobody except God. We give God the glory. But let me tell you, everybody is being assisted by one person or group of persons to achieve what that person wants to achieve. And that is the truth. Okay, look at the training of a child. I will tell you, most people will say, oh, the father has tried. Yes, because he played the school things. He bought the books. He provided for them. But you cannot dismiss the role of the mother of the child. There are times you are not in the house and the child felt she couldn't go to school that day. And the mother will come talk to him and he will go to school. All the child is sick. Even if the father provides the money, the mother takes the child to the hospital. So what am I trying to tell you? It's a combined effort. Because you are talking of the way to go from the new office. That's quite different. It's not quite different. Nobody can. Okay, now let us also look at the way the government came into work. We are talking about Mr. Chita. Now, when he became a local government chairman, he now be a pastor at that time, it was one term. He did not do two terms. Somebody, I don't mention the name of him. Who sponsored him? He said no. Who is also from that local government? He said no, we cannot go to second term. Everybody is a victim. Don't go. Some of them took the dead man first. He does some of the same thing. We are talking about health information. We are talking about the work of some电 e綦 of the devil in a retired family. How many parents did you get from theired family? And where have you been? We have been in the battlefield, in a house near our city మరి఩తంరిటద మి మలటంవి మా మా మనిటికం మనాడికినిఇ౨ిమా అకాధరం. మరినికికి. మరినానాడికి. At the end of the day, reverence at the one being played around as the emotional footballer, look at what happened in Edo, Edo no bilegos, Edo no bilegos. People went, took out a measure that Governor Obaseke was re-elected. But in the last couple of months, the kind of press we, the kind of things we read about Governor Obaseke is like if we, if we contest today in Edo state, you probably will be kissing the electoral dust. So I'm thinking, I'm thinking at moments like this, politicians will play to the emotions. They will play to the David Angolath emotions of the moment. But do they really deserve it? Either of the two sides, I'm just thinking aloud. Okay. You talk about the Edo saga. Well, no doubt about that. There are issues. But then, you know, a lot of people are sick and tired of this Godfarrarism. It's the truth about the pestilence of Godfarrarism. And what the reaction you saw in reverse, it was a referendum of the government disapprover of Godfarrarism. He's a government who was in town. He's a man who's a government of the state. He's chief of staff nominated. I don't want to say appointed because the appointed authority is the government. The chief of staff was foisted on him. He's chief secretary of staff was foisted on him. His commissioners were foisted on him. The local government chairman was to have respect for him. I just gave him an instance when he won at the court. Then so many other things. That's Rumo. The Rumo that suffused the air was that they were not even allowed to leave the state for a bujai unless they had the imprimatur of his free procession who's the FCT minister. And that's why he had the activities. What is the Godasha Council of State? National Economic Council. National Economic Council. National Economic Council. When they had this problem, you could see that our domestic government appeared. At that meeting. And even mandates were taken to the former governor for him to approve before the governor signed. But the man was there and every spirit revolved satire. What is the problem? This is because of the problem. Please, can you just let me be so I don't lose my train of thought. If you look at, I'm very sorry but let me tell you after this I'll just, I'll be brief. If you look at what happened, probably it's because of this trouble now. The appointment of the commissioner and the visit to the Sungai farm. Sungai farm is a farm it was inaugurated by Rotary Mutual Government and established by Rotary Mutual Committee. What was your lessons? It was going to generate funds for the state and at the same time guarantee employment for the first person. Because in the last eight years of FCT minister, we never had an appointment. We never had, sorry, employment. All it came up with was in Jules Benjamin. And Jules Benjamin were paying them a $750 a day minimum wage. And even when the boys protested one or two of them were killed and the governor came out to say he was hungry that why would he protest. The commissioner questioned Jules Benjamin on environmental impact assessment. That commissioner was sucked immediately for daring to question Jules Benjamin. If you come to reverse the place is flooded once it rains the workplace is covered and there is the environmental impact assessment by the government. It is only when that the government will come and demolish your property. Once your government will demolish that property or you cease working over. Every spirit will vote entirely. So when we had this and actually in the last 24 years we never had the reverend government. And as always, certain persons said no, this is our town. Guys, I'm talking about the reverend people. This is our town. We were right. Because for 24 years since 1999 we've never had the reverend government. This is the first reverend governor we've been having in the last 24 years. And so a lot of people started raising millions into it. As if is it because his deputy governor is an uplander. So is it because we clamored for a reverend governor and he brought this man and all of a sudden he wanted to kick him out of office of institutions who are moving into this whole thing. And that's why you see the massive support from the reverend police. Now it will also surprise that the support did not just come from the reverend. We had a lot of uplanders because they felt that this man as we so oppressed he is not allowed to function as a governor. For every step he makes he has to get clearance from the spirit assessment. If only enough the man appreciates he can tell you even at times in your discussions with him he will tell you what I never expected to give to him let me give another spot. I am beholding to him. But you cannot because if you push a man to the wall he advances back to the local level. You cannot expect a man to be the silent for two years. I mean for how long would Philphe's best tremble in silence before his owners. I am one I am one who actually believes that from the movement in 1959 I yielded office to Akintola to the Second Republic to where we are now in the First Republic from Nnamane to Umebodo to Nnamane up until this eastern Ferrari in Rivers, I am one who believes that it is indeed deligional for anybody to think that he could pick a successor and expect the successor to be subservient eternally to him. Bola Metinumbu Bola Metinumbu was uniquely fortunate that Fashola may be out of good of bringing or just being chicken-hearted did not use the sort of dummy code that he had in his hand in 2011 and that is why we still have a phenomenon called Bola Metinumbu today. Thank you. I really want to give you the last word the last word. Well my brother, so what we what we saw I am talking of the impeachment I think you were still important because we have different views on the impeachment the first two of these there are some of the students of SAC some of the students of SAC and two of them but please ask yourself a very simple question what are the impeachable offenses of the government that you want to impeach but as a civil rights as a civil rights advocate you know that there is the mischief in the constitution regarding the impeachment process in fact a deputy governor has been impeached in Nigeria for having at the back of this house a little agricultural project you know a chicken and yet the only the only business that the civil service rule allows the civil servant to have around his house or her house is a big adventure I agree with you please that we have in depth understanding of these things how was Alamesha Rumu how was the former prime minister we all know what happened and if we allow these things to go on with impunity then we are in trouble because we are already in trouble so that's why you see this resistance yes we appreciate you for bringing this man we said we want the reverend governor because let us face it if it's just not by election you know I call it election but I call it imposition or like what we have in going on in Nigeria a coup that takes place every four years you don't really elect and because the people are so impoverished most of them are even feared of the leaders so whatever they need to do we do more of this trust me we are made up for weekend not for Fubara we just want people like you to have your day in the public opinion court just express yourself thank you very much we really enjoy your session thank you it's my pleasure thank you thank you