 Yeah, that's broken. We actually can't silence. I said a word once. Now I'm a Nazi. I know which word that was. And chat have already entered the game. Well, like, what do they say? They're giving a shit for being late. Kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, yeah, makes sense. Yeah, this is the old same old. I feel like chat, this is going to be like Godzilla. It's going to be like Spider-Man. They're they no doubt everyone because I saw the rotten tomato score. Apparently, people really like Rise of Skywalker. There's nothing fishy about that anyway. Look at that. I get it. You liked Rise of Skywalker. I don't feel the same. We don't feel the same. Oh, thanks, YouTube. The e-fab, I'm on. I get a notification. E-fab is live. Yeah, thanks. Great. It does just know that you're on it. Be there. No, that's the first time I ever got a message for that. Like, oh, yeah, cool. Thanks. I want to tweet out the street out everyone hearing for me. But on the note of the audience score, that is fishy. Like, I don't buy that. I see that. People are like, I don't see many people like it. Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen it like it was fine. It was like, it was like, I see it. Yeah, I see a lot of like normie people who who are just saying like it's fine or even saying that it was actually bad. And I mean, most fans don't like this movie. That's for sure. I've not heard anyone say they liked it without the word in spite of it. Yeah, exactly. I think the best I've got to know people is like, well, it's all right, you know. I clapped for Bobby Frick. The highest praise I've heard this guy get is like, it was about as good as you could expect. Yeah. I mean, it's I mean, cats is out or coming out. So that'll probably, you know, I have heard things, nothing more than cats. I have heard some things like people are describing that movie like it's not a it's not conventional. Like it says it like it like transcends analysis. It's such a bizarre experience. It transcends. Cats transcends. That sounds like the title of the Patrick Willems video. Cats. It's like, what happened in that movie? My favorite movie of 2019 is Cats. I love for it to perform versus Skywalker. It's a movie about furry things made for no one. I don't know. And even furries are like, no, it's not. Oh, no, it's fucking weird for me. Furries are still jerking off to Zootopia. They're not going to look at the cats. What's what is there to know? Oh, my goodness, they are terrifying. Furries are like all about like foxes and stuff. Well, no, it's about taking animals and having them be, you know, expressive and emotive and anthropomorphic in the right way. He's not this true, but they're all fucking like wolves and foxes, though. Like that's their trend. Yeah, there's not a lot of slug furries. Those are particularly furry in my experience. Well, they get glumped together, like dragons and stuff, right? Yeah, but yeah, Scalies. You know the terminology, J. I do. I'm subscribed to furry IRL. J, what is your what is your fursona? Uh, rhino, because I'm a caribou. No, I'm a dog. Never mind. I was I was wondering that. You're what were you again? A rhino. You're a rhino. Yeah. Why is that? Um, because my big titties. Yeah, look at this conversation is for again wanting to talk about the rise of Skywalker. It's like, what's your fursona? It's a rhino. Because I've got big titties. We're going to teach you guys this. I am not going to deny you your identity. I know what that gets you called these days. That's life lessons for you. And if J.K. Rowling couldn't survive it, neither could I. Oh, she got roasted bird. I like I have more of an issue with her talking about how wizards would poop back in the medieval days. That was my that was my breaking point. I saw that and I was like, I would have to have more context on the thing she's talking about. They just make the poop disappear, right? Yeah. Where does it go to? Because it doesn't disappear. I don't know why she would say that. Can you make people disappear to the poop dimension? You fall into this world of poop. There's literally just poop. An entire planet of nothing but human excrement. There's like this creature that's like, hello. Where is the world of the poop? Oh, God. No, no, no. There's no escape. Voldemort is that we sent him to the poop dimension. We couldn't kill him. That's why he was so pissed. You have to live in a poop house now. That's why I cut off my nose. Yeah. Welcome to the rise of Skywalker stream. Wow. That was speaking of speaking of the dimension rise of Skywalker. What a segue. So appropriate. We live in the poop dimension. We've already been sent there. We've been there for a couple of hours at least. So a couple of hours. Yeah, when we saw Rise of Skywalker, was it like two hours and 40 minutes? We've been in a dark timeline for a while. Yeah, it was only like two hours. Ten, it felt it was certainly dense. It was hard to tell how long it was. I thought like I could have been convinced it was even longer than TLJ. Like it's a weird time felt weird watching that film. It was so badly paced. Yeah. Yeah. So much happened in the first like half hour. It feels like a montage more than a movie. Yeah, 22 apparently. Perhaps that's our kicking off point for sort of what we got beginning our announcements first. Oh, we do. Oh, my goodness gracious. I want to I want to bring some more attention to the good old EFAP calendar as well as just EFAP. Amy in general. This is showcasing day six, which was Mr. Jay XC, of course. And he comes with what is that? It's like a book. Was that Marino milk? It's probably a carton of rhino milk. Is it a book or rhino milk? Then we got a day eight, which was Mr. Shad himself. He gets a little paper sword, too. I don't know if you're aware of this. Oh, really? I need to check that out. Yeah, then there was day five was metal commander. I mean, it's me. That's me. Very emotional stuff. And it is indeed. And I was going to show Fringy as well. I think we've shown myself and Rags before. But that is incredible. Currently, no drinker. I'm really I'm really hoping you're in there. Well, you've got a couple of days left. I'm hoping you come with your little bottle. Drink while you assemble these. True. But yes, alcohol, not included. You get a download link for the does include alcohol. The template will have a link. We'll have a download link to alcohol on the website. Yes. Yes. Non-Aged alcohol. We've become enablers. Yeah, you can you can get the whole cast of of EFAP in paper form. And I think Shad's going to be the best one because you can kill other paper form people with his sword. Yeah, like it would be funny, my theory, by the way, the discord icons on stream, it is me. Oh, I'm going to have to change some. No, you know, it's fine. Every time I put the cover up, it puts us back to normal. Unfortunately, whenever I try to show anything, it'll put us into Tism mode for a little bit. All right, all right. I'll have to figure out. I don't know if I can do a quick fix for that. Actually, it might have to just be that I try and keep the cover up for most of the stream, which should be possible. There's not much reason for me to show anything this stream. Yeah, so the the other thing I suppose is worth magic. I don't know if any of you have seen it, but generally, people who loved TLJ are not like in this film, right? And what a bunch of big sexist and misogynist. That's insane. I can't believe it. Remember, I don't care. No, but it's not a big deal. I'll move on with my life, even though my whole job is talking about how movies can have a profound impact on people's lives. But no, just move on. It's just a movie. I just didn't like it. That's all God. That's God. So like, you can't hold both views, guys. I'm saying it's a movie about space wizards. Well, this is a movie about space wizards for nobody. It was probably my favorite thing this week, just seeing on Twitter, getting, yeah, well, yeah, I was going to say, right. So you got those pictures like all day to him. It's like, oh, God, that didn't age well. Yeah, just just for anybody did not know. And I need to save a screenshot of it in case it goes away. But Patrick Willems put out a tweet saying, how fucking dare you, JJ Abrams? So dramatic. And so my immediate thought was like, wow, Pat, you're taking this very seriously, considering it's a kids movie. It's almost like it's just a kids movie with space wizards and you get no angry. And so naturally, you want to you want to respond with that. And then you got to check his thread. And as has just been mentioned, there's like 50 responses that just paste his picture of the thing. And then like, you got really pissed off. And he said like a tweet out being like, no, I fucking said, dummy. How can you be? Oh, how could it be sort of fun? I think we can already actually tweeted that. It was like, just a brace to me. Now you're just a fucking idiot. Look, it's bitten you in the ass, I know. And it sucks. But really set yourself up for failure with that. One should have thought ahead. Yeah, now you can no longer criticize. Imagine showing some fucking backbone. And yeah, he's he's been like, nobody understands it. Nobody understood it correctly. And it's just like, I don't know what is it. But like people have analyzed the deaths. Like he specifically references me as one of the one of the crazies. And I was like, so an in-depth review is, you know, by your standard, something just too much for a kids movie, quote unquote. Right, harassment. And yeah. And then he was like, no strictly strictly talking about the people who went out and like did stuff in terms of like sending messages to cast members. And it's just like that. I mean, that's some basic shit. Like we all know that you're not supposed to do that. Pretty sure you were talking about something else. Pretty sure. All right. He's got like an extensive list of reasons to remember it's a kids movie. It's like, if you if you want to call Patrick, if you think Patrick is a Disney shill, well, this is this is a space movie. If you think if you think S.J. W. is around it, like it's movie, if you think. Although it's like the one of them was if you tell him to kill himself, which is harassment. Yeah. And then I don't I can't think of the other ones. Yeah, I just we're at the point where it's just like, look, dude, you're pissed, right? And I understand why he's pissed. I understand why any T.L.J. fan would be pissed at this movie. But you said some stuff before, so it's hard for you to say other stuff that contradicts that stuff. Yeah, I think they got to commit to what you said so boldly and so confidently. I think he might have just misjudged the tone with the how fucking dare you. I think he might have wanted it to be taken as like, oh, how fucking dare you? JJ is like a like a tongue in cheek thing. And then he's realizing that people aren't getting that tone. Then he realized that I texted out the words how fucking dare you. He didn't just to defend it that way, though. He defended the the the comet with the postery thing. He didn't even go like I didn't see any tweets about how he was like, oh, I was just kidding. JJ's fine. That's great. It's all great. Everything's great. It's everything's fine. He can't. He doesn't want to admit that he says something that could easily be misinterpreted. Well, I mean, what what really happened is he he he said something really, really stupid. Patrick wouldn't do that. I saw tweets about how he's he said he's not going to make a video on this film. And I was talking to Rags about it. I was like pretty sure it's obvious why because it just like the comments would be filled with, but hey, it's a kid's movie. Why are you getting so mad? Why why is the wires you so upset? This is only Star Wars movie. Why are you so angry? Why are you getting upset? The other one is going to follow him around forever, though, anytime he criticizes any movie that's looking at comments, he's going to get in response. And you're not like maybe more need to do is just be like all you need to do is not not say you guys just clearly too dumb to understand what I was saying. He just needs to say, guys, maybe I phrased that poorly. What I meant was that people shut up about it. Isn't it worthwhile to point out how reductive his comment is on like the work that is involved in telling a story for children? Like, imagine if someone picks our watch, read that comment. Oh, yeah, yeah. What's the iron giant? Sorry, Wally. Yeah, exactly. Sorry, yeah. It's interesting to say quality that can exist in kids like movies and stuff. There's a pretty dark storytelling in kids stuff that you appreciate by adults and kids alike. Yeah. Well, what he said is just completely, completely dumb. I don't even know. Yeah. It's just stupid. I think saying that it's reductive to the point of absurdity is pretty accurate because when you when you reduce everything to its most basic form, it can sound silly, but that's just how it is for everything. And that's not how exactly it's like saying, wow, halo is lame. All you do is censor the screen on the thing you want dead. Wow, good game design. Yeah, just put a thing on a thing and click. And every movie. There is that thing they've got like shit movie summaries or something like that. That sounds like a YouTube channel from two years. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, where they just take movies and funnily, but accurately say they're they're plotting their theme or not their theme, but just kind of like the plot of the story. But in its most basic, like one sentence kind of way, you're like, man, that sounds dumb. Oh, Patrick, the only other thing I've got to say is that I spoke to I hate everything yesterday after he took another snipe at Mr. Rags because I took to Twitter to complain because I don't like getting sniped at. And he he felt that I was kind of overreacting because it wasn't even about me. And then we had a back and forth in PMs. Then we got into a conversation and he agreed to have it recorded. It lasted one hour. We managed to come to, let's say, an agreement on everything that happened. We kind of went over all of the events of the past two years. Didn't expect this to happen whatsoever, especially not right now. And he said he's OK with it being played on EFAP. So me and Rags will be probably looking into that or at least playing it at some point in the future. I don't know exactly how we're going to fit this in. A bit of a weird thing, but yeah, we'll we'll be able to play it because there's we talk about the conversation that we had with, you know, TRO and Wolf and we talk about like the videos and all the things that happened, quite an interesting series of events. But you'll finally get some sort of, I don't know, closure on that, I guess, as an audience, because I know a lot of people want to know what the fuck's going on with it. And that's that's just an update on that. And that's it for me. It was interesting. Like he his recent video on the rise of Skywalker, he's basically recontextualized his views on all the movies. And it was a pretty good video on all of us. I don't think it was a good video. You didn't like it? No, I think that for 15 minutes, he didn't say that much. And also, like, I don't even really agree with judgments he made. Like, oh, you know, the Force Awakens is just OK. Like, nah, it's not. And also, you know, oh, Ryan Johnson, like he's got a really good track record and he cites Looper as an example of his good track record. The film that has alighted it to say stop thinking about this film and then I think he went so far as to be like he was like, you know, Ryan Johnson, he's a director who likes to subvert expectations and sort of do his own thing. And it's the producers at Disney's Fault that they got him to do the second act of a three act story where he did whatever he wanted, as though like he has no obligation to try and, you know, fit his story. It's not Ryan's fault. Ryan is a city man. He's got no self control man. You should have turned him loose on this. He's not an adult human. Yeah. If you could choose to give every you could re-roll the you could re-roll the sequel trilogy so that all gets remade, right? But the catch is you can only give each movie to either Ryan or JJ, who gets each movie. Ah, I think that if you gave it to JJ, it would be just like. I don't know, I'd be stupid, but that's offensively stupid. Yeah, at least it would be consistently stupid as well. You know, I'm literally like, yeah, I don't know. Actually, I was suggesting one that we can do whatever we want. Like we can give all three to one of them or two to one of them. Two to, you know, yeah, any. Probably honestly, I'd probably go all three with JJ, but I would be interested to see all three with Ryan. I don't know what he would do, but I don't want to do either of them, though. I don't want to do either of the trilogy. I don't know what he did. He might set up. Yeah, I don't know. Other than, hey, let's do the empire again. Yeah, I feel like I would rather have JJ, because I don't know if I could stand three movies of everything's just shit. Well, that's the thing with the last Jedi. He destroyed so much about Star Wars and the characters. And if you give him three movies, I'm not sure what would be left. It's like this is what's left now. It's a whole skeleton. Like, no, it'd be a whole movie about Rose Tico. I mean, all right. He created her. I mean, I think what I'm really interested in now is the treatment that George Lucas wrote. I would be very curious to know what the original sequel trilogy was going to be. Apparently, I would focus on the currents. It didn't sound great, because I think it was going into the the wills and stuff. They found me. They found me. This is Disney. Open the door. Do not release part two, God damn it. Oh, what? Yeah, I think I think I'm Lucas's treatment had them going almost into like the Star Wars version of the quantum realm and stuff. It was really kind of bizarre. Ha, I've been sent to take it over this. This this comes from a subreddit. That's all about sort of like bits and balls behind the scenes of Star Wars. Not one. This is unverified. It just it sounds pretty on point. So again, just just rumor, which, by the way, so much rumor from geeks and gamers and Doomcock have now been confirmed like heavily from this film is just kind of funny how that works. And can we just also point out, right? Because JJ outright said that no, there was no pre-test screenings just with a couple of, you know, family friends. We saw it and stuff like that. Like that is such profound bullcrap confirmed by all these screenings. Oh, yeah, they had too much writing on this to not test it. They've caused too much money to not test screen it. And like, honestly, like if first of all we're making a Star Wars video, I'd be like, yeah, let's test screen it. Let's see what people think. I actually. Yeah. Plus, let's remember the version that we got is the version after the test screenings. Oh, well, God knows what they saw. There's red blood. The idiot's abortion. I would have liked to have seen the Lucas cut that apparently got produced because I think they got to the stage where they'd edited that and it was all filled. That's what, well, according to the rumors, anyway. Yeah, that one I'm a bit more skeptical on. Like it could have happened, but gee, that I got to a pretty extreme thing. Well, this is I'll just read this out quickly. This is kind of relevant to this. So this begins with saying after Colin had left the project, I'll be Colin Trevorrow, who was supposed to do Rise of Skywalker and backed out. Ryan Johnson was immediately Lucasfilm's top choice to take over. However, Iga and Horne weren't impressed with The Last Jedi and thought it was a step down from the Force Awakens. This promoted Iga to personally offer Abrams the gig. JJ was not a fan of The Last Jedi. Actually, that's putting it gently. He absolutely loathed T.L.J. and had some serious beef with Ryan Johnson, which, by the way, that's pretty strong. But this film, this film has serious beef with The Last Jedi. Yeah, there's all there. It's weird how they've structured it because so much of it is like trying to recontextualise a lot of the things in The Last Jedi, but not completely contradicted. Yeah, I know what I really meant was. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, except the one line they bring up for that being true is like your parents were nobody's. It's your grandparents that were somebody except all of the other lines. All of the other lines that he said was like, they were drinkers who sold you for drinking money. That's not true. I didn't allow that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said I never lied to you. It's like he did. And even if the person doesn't have an important position, the fact that he was the son of Palpatine means he was not a nobody. That's a profoundly significant. You're right, especially in the context. Jaden Smith is not a nobody. Yeah, because the whole point of the whole nobody thing is that it's not a Kenobi, not a Skywalker, not a solo, not a Palpatine. That was the point of the nobody. People in the galaxy that matter, apparently, right? Well, that was something I actually I actually kind of agree that it would be. It would have been it's like, oh, does it have to be someone we already know from a strong family? But the problem was Ray was so powerful. So yeah, we have to like explain how you're going to explain it used for the sequel trilogy, though. You and your thoughts, you would think that if they were going to try and explain some of the power that they wouldn't have just laid on dumped on so much more power on top of it. They made her OP beyond belief that took a war with the spaceship was just incredible. I was laughing my ass off. That's the thing, though, with the whole parent thing, because I actually would prefer it if like her parents weren't, you know, tied to the same three family trees for the whole time. But because she was so powerful, it's like, all right, what's going on? What's going on? They should have introduced a new character for it. Imagine if you if you have a train, imagine it. Imagine if you set up with something like, I don't know, her parents were Jedi Knights who were escaping order 66, and maybe they got killed and she was left on her own. So we know that she's Jedi and we know that she has a beef against the Sith. And now you have some good old interesting character development. What's there was none of in this movie? Oh, yeah. Well, I was going to say, before we get to that, I'll carry on with this. So this moves on to say bring it gently, he only came back if you could have complete control and wouldn't have to compromise with Kennedy or Lucas Films story group. JJ's first move was a consult with George Lucas on the story for episode nine. They came up with a story that had strong connections to the Clone Wars TV show, which featured the dagger of Mortis and Matt Smith as the son of Mortis, which would have been the film's antagonist. The story also used many elements of George Lucas's unused sequel trilogy treatments. Disney really wanted this movie to be another force awakens in the sense that it would unite all fans and be at least initially universally loved after Solos flop at the box office, T.L.J.'s backlash on the decline of Star Wars merchandise. It was paramount for Disney that episode nine be a success with. Successful. It's not going to be happy. They did not want another last Jedi on their hands. The film's direction changed radically during around midway of principal photography. JJ told the Disney executives that this film would not satisfy and unite all fans. This is where the studio meddling began, which led to the second abandonment of George Lucas's ideas. Nearly every story detail for the initial script was either completely abandoned or bastardized. Palpatine was always to have a presence in this movie, but not alive or not as the main villain. The main villain was supposed to be the son of Mortis. Disney feared that the general audiences would be alienated as they wouldn't know who son of Mortis was, which would make the movie harder to market and which led to the choice of replacing the son with Palpatine. And Matt Smith was completely removed from the movie. Disney ordered extensive reshoots that went on throughout the year, leading up to early October. JJ Abrams was not happy with many of the changes that Disney made to Rise of Skywalker. I don't know the specifics, but let's just say he isn't at all pleased with the final product. Essentially, the majority of the movie was just reshot and reconfigured this year at the same time. Leaving a ton of important scenes on the cutting room floor. I don't have any more info on the making of the Rise of Skywalker other than that, but I'm hoping that this post gets people with better sources to give out more details. And if that happens, then that kind of vindicates JJ a little bit, doesn't it? Yeah, I feel bad for him. No, actually, I feel bad for him if that's for you. Can I just say, I think Disney succeeded, though, in unifying the Star Wars fan base, but unifying them all in hatred for this abomination. They turned the fandom to the direct side. Inspiracy type. What if they did that on purpose so that they can make another sequel trilogy? Let's try again. Honestly, I'll be on board with that. I'll be on board. Like, start it over. Let's start again. It's just such a shame you losing Carrie Fisher just means it would never be as viable. But yeah, I honestly would get behind it. And it's crazy because, like, Matt Smith being in it. Yeah, I thought that was the case for, like, a good year. As far as I was aware, he was definitely going to be in it. Not, like, that lens credence to this sort of post, as well as a couple of other details. And if it's true, it's like, yeah, man, like, what the hell is going on at Lucasfilm? Like, they just, they're so desperate to make money. They just want to make money, like. And they're not, they're not. Yeah, now that there's so many, well, Carrie Fisher's gone, and I don't think you'll ever get Harrison Ford back unless. No, he won't come back. Well, honestly, I don't think Mark Hamill will come back either. Yeah, I don't think he will, yeah. So I reckon they, if they reboot, and I hope they do, you know, fingers crossed, but we could only find out. If they reboot it shortly after a last Jedi and recast Luke Skywalker and stuff and bring it and start off closer in time frame and have a whole movie series of them trying to rebuild the Republic and stop any vestiges of. That would make a lot more sense. That would make a lot more sense. I would love to see, you know, you get to see Luke in his prime again, like as the master Jedi training you Jedi, that would be awesome. That would be great. Yeah, it's kind of interesting because Ryan Johnson, like, he was on Twitter and I think he was responding to somebody about, you know, his interpretation of Luke. And he said something about, like, not wanting to give Luke a video game permanent, like, power up, but my immediate thought is do you not understand why it would be really interesting to see Luke as a Jedi master, like, training apprentices? How is that not the coolest idea? Yeah, and the first time in God knows how long for the Jedi, you have a guy who's teaching people and he doesn't have a proper master of his own. A lot of it's gonna be on his own. And he's really gonna try and be responsible, whereas the Jedi, you know, the Jedi before were kind of bureaucratic and inefficient. Well, actually, even in the expanded universe, Luke decided to make some fundamental changes in the Jedi order that he felt the Jedi order made mistakes. And once he allowed Jedi to marry and have relationships because he thought that was one of the causes of the, yeah, that's why Darth Vader felt the denial of all that and stuff. Yeah, it makes perfect sense that Luke, Luke of all people would do that. He's the family man. He's the relationships man. He's the Kaz about all the people, man. He's fucking made out with his sister. Yeah, boy, he is the family man. That's how much he loves his family. But yeah, that pretty much leads us into, we're gonna talk about this movie scene by scene. Is everyone excited? Oh, how many scenes are in this movie? 60,000? 60,000, yeah, so. 60,000 scenes. Number one out of 60,000. If everyone's drinking, I've got some edibles in the fridge that I'm tempted to do. In the fridge? Yeah. Not everyone is drinking. Yeah, irresponsible. That's what that is. It's really early. A lot of people in chat were saying that the Thrawn trilogy was being described there as you guys were sort of talking in a way, but I'm not sure how many people here have even seen or read. No. I don't know. I would have been fine with an adaptation. All I saw was the word incest just being repeated. Hey, desperate times call for desperate measures. All right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go get my edibles. Okay. Yeah. All right. No, to the theater. Should we, should we just start without that piece of shit? Or should we wait a sec? Well, we should wait because. Oh yeah, I went and came back and he was kicked. That would be funny. This movie just started and just kept going. Oh, stop. It was one of those weird movies that started and then kept going. Why didn't you just start and stop immediately? Yeah, God. So, so hang on. Like, do we really believe that this abomination is the result of Disney meddling and JJ didn't get the film he wanted because there was a lot of JJ in this film. Yeah, no, I can believe that from the point of view that it feels very safe and it feels like very much falling back on tropes and characters that seem like they'll be a safe bet. This does seem like a group project in a way. Yeah, like designed by committee. So I could, I could believe that. Because if so, that should be public. JJ should be a bit vindicated then because like, which director would want this movie under there? It's not going to hurt his career because he's already signed a big deal with Warner Brothers for like DC. So he's fine because he, his movies are successful. I think, you know, he's going to at least be able to claim, look, everything was against me on this one. I inherited a mess from the last Jedi. I had a fan base that was against me. And yeah, imagine they're in an interview and the ride's like, yeah, well, I inherited a mess from you. And he's like, yeah, well, okay. All right. Yeah, well, like, did you see the last Jedi? Holy shit. I want to see them have a cage right now. I just picked up the slap fight. It was like, eh, eh, eh, eh. We're going to snipe at each other on Twitter forever. I don't even know, it's JJ's. He does Twitter. But yeah, all right, well, three words to start this off. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Didn't know I was speaking. The dead speak. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. So we, we're going to spend an hour on the opening crawl. I just know it. We really are. There is a lot to unpack. We have a picture of it. Oh, well, I can get you this. This is what I'm using. Because obviously it got leaked. So someone's already made like a fake version of it. Um, The funny thing is when I saw it for a second, oh, that's a, that's a funny type of a translation. Yeah. So this morning it's like, oh, well, I did it. If anyone has seen the, um, the cam copy that's floating around, there's a translation. So it comes out in like a different language at the beginning and it's translated into English for our viewing pleasure in case, you know, you don't speak that language. And they've translated that opening into deaths of speaking. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. I don't know what to make of that. It's interesting. Jay Longburn created it. Yeah. It's such a glorious translation. But yeah, um, so we immediately find out that apparently there's just broadcast being sent out to the galaxy from Palpatine, which is the dumbest bloody thing in the world. Don't play. I have a whole army. I have a whole army ready to overtake your galaxy. I'm going to tell everyone about it so they can come and stop me before I get to launch my attack. Yeah. I have a question as well about the first order in that case. So if he was building up this massive force of star destroyers that's going to take over the galaxy, was the first order just like a little dip my toe in the water? I don't know what they were doing this whole time. I thought that's what they were doing. Okay. So he was behind the first order. We have one line where he says he made Snoke and like that's all we get on it. And you see, you see like copies of Snoke. Why? Yeah. Why did you do that? What was his motivation? Do we get anything for why? So this one, he's like, he's like the force awakens fans wet dream because he's like a, he's like a lore book. It's like, okay. So what was Snoke? And he's like, like a puppet testing thing. Like, okay. So you, you made him because he's like, you know, to take over, I guess. Like take over what? How? He's like, I mean, you're asking too many questions. Stop it. They're like having a debate in the room on the planet. It's like, stop asking questions. No. I don't know. So maybe he didn't make the first order in the thing. The first order really is the leftovers of the empire. But again, if he survived, why did he need to make Snoke to? Yeah, why can't he just come back himself? Exactly. Week and free. All the empire lost was the death star. Everything else of the empire was still intact. And if he survived, technically he was still emperor of the empire and he didn't lose much. And in that context, it doesn't explain how then Snoke came to be the leader of the first order. He was a puppet, but he existed before he got there. How did he take over? And remember how it happened? They say that Snoke changed Kylo's mind. So we're talking like, well, like 10 years prior to when we saw him, the Snoke's been empowered. Was he literally just like created? He was in like a little tie interceptor. They landed him in the force of the first order. He got out. He's like, I'm your emperor now. Okay. Good enough for me here. But before we even, you know, go that far on the timeline, because this is where it's established that Palpatine is alive. I think we just need to point out how utterly ridiculous that is that he survived at all. I wish we could do a supercut right now of just boom from the first explosion, boom from the second explosion. He survived both of those. The original explanation in the leaks was that, you know, the emperor that got killed was a clone of him. And he was just remote controlling him from, from, you know, this Sith homeworld. But now we're saying, no, that was actually him. They got flung down the actor shaft. Exactly. I didn't die. Yeah. That's exactly the argument someone put to me is that, no, no, no, that was a clone that died. And then I was like, but the body we see of the emperor in this movie is broken beyond belief, which is directly implying that that was the same body that died. If he would be perfectly intact, he would have a fresh body if there was a clone that died. And so, because it might have worked. His fingers are all kind of severed and farmed. Exactly. Every single death star took off his fingers. That explosion fucking blew off my eye recess. And then I got an eye on us three fingers. He just comes flying back up that reactor shaft. I want the scene where they celebrate destroyed the death star that Zoob's righted. And we see, you know, in the exact same way we saw Leia in TLJ, he's floating away, Zoob's right up to his eyes. He's got a Dragon Ball Z energy bubble. Not even that. I want the same music as in TLJ and that he lifts out his arm and he's getting Mary Poppins floats his way down to the nearest planet. Not the same music. It plays as he opens his eyes. It starts playing immigrant song, which is the song from Ragnarok. Yeah. I mean, I'm not even I'm not even getting for like a really over the top thing. I just wanted to play out like from the sits perspective as it did for the heroes in TLJ. You have like a bunch of, you know, generals at a window looking out like, Oh my God, he's still pointing to him. Like you can get to him. He arrives on a planet. They put him on a stretcher immediately. They're like, thank goodness. And then he goes into a coma for a while. Let's hide him in a floaty pyramid or something. I don't know. And it might have actually worked if they actually did go the whole clone route. That it was a clone that died. And Palpatine has always got a, you know, like a clone puppet that is working through, but they, but they didn't even do that. They just did this ridiculous. That could have worked. Oh, no, I'm always, you know, I don't want to die. So I control a puppet remotely. But then when they blow him up, I'd be like, was that a clone? Exactly. Not to not to skip ahead, but like right at the end when he wants Ray to kill him, he says like, well, if you kill me, my energies will transfer into your body. And then I'll be in control of you. So are they perhaps suggesting that when his physical body died on the death star, his energies just transferred into like a new Palpatine body somewhere else? Because then he would have finished. Yeah. Why is his body destroyed? Like you think if he was going to make a clone that he can transfer into, it would be a fresh one, you know? Well, he had the clones of it. There was, it was really weird seeing Snoke clones and the VAT on Exegol there. Yeah. Why would you need more of him? So I'm wondering if he just can't make good bodies because Snoke turned out like fucking. It's like Palpatine, I keep telling you, you've got to wait till it's 100% done. He's like, oh, can't wait. I'm just, I'm so excited. I just put my new clone. 80% just all fucked up. The two, the two Snoke faces you see in the test tubes look like they just figured it the exact same way. Exactly. So they cloned someone who was disfigured? Well, maybe they, maybe. That's the only answer, I think. I think they wanted him to be disfigured so he'd look cool. At least the clones looked like Django Fett. Yeah, you know, should have gone Django back. Yeah. Gonna have more Django clones. Oh my God. That was the other answer someone was trying to give to me about where the crew to all these starships come from and everything, but maybe I'm skipping it. I'll wait until we actually get to the start. Well, yeah, I was just going to say sort of, because we can jump ahead and jump back just to see how these things make sense a little bit, but the whole like, why is he putting his voice out there? It's like, best interpretation I could possibly give is he wants Rey to come to him. And it's like, so why does he want the world to know about him? But yeah, and he specifically tells Kylo to kill her. The first thing he does when Kylo, you have to kill her. It's like he can't launch his attack until she's dead. Yeah, his intentions like flip-flop. Yeah, because at the end he's like, lol, I was kidding the whole time. But it's like, wait, what? You know, it was like, oh, if you kill me, then I'll transfer over to you. But then she ultimately does kill him. But then nothing happens. I was so stupid. Okay, all right, well. Yeah, but it was with two lights. My favorite part of the crew. Yeah, if you really kill him. It wasn't an anger. That was Mace Windu's mistake. You only used the one lightsaber. Can I make it on? Super bad. While you reminded me, Mace Windu was a force ghost, apparently, even though only Qui-Gon figured it out. Well, to be fair, we don't know if Qui-Gon didn't teach Mace Windu after that if he was a ghost. Okay, sure. I don't buy that. I wish he could actually do his voice in like full Samuel Jackson mode. Like, get up, motherfucker! You know how Palpatine... Careless motherfucker. You know how Palpatine said he's the voices of everybody inside Kyla's head? Imagine he faked all the Jedi voices just to troll Rey. Exactly. Well, we... He faked a lot of Jedi voices going, Rey, you're so shit. Rey, piece of shit. You can't do that. I was talking to you smaller yesterday about the whole, because it... I said, it surprised me that they started off with him being alive, like right off the gate. Palpatine's back. He's alive here. In fact, here he is in the flesh, working on Secret Evil Planet. And it says, and Palpatine says to Kylo that I've been every voice in your head and has Snoke and Darth Vader and stuff. And later on, when fucking Han Solo appears to Kylo Ben... Kyle Ben. Ren, Kyle Ben, Kylo... Steve appears to Kylo Ren. Steve. I'm like, man, you're just trusting this. You're just buying this, even though you know that Palpatine controls the visions in your head and voices and stuff. You just totally buy that this is... Yeah, this is definitely my dad. It's got to be. Yeah, because he's like... You're a memory. He's like, yes. But how can you trust your own fucking memory anymore? There are a lot of problems with the exchange between those two that I'll wait. So yeah, all of our questions about Snoke, none are answered in a decent way. It's just, yeah, lol, clone. Yeah, if anything, it's just like, right, you've kicked the can down the road. Now I need to know other things. I still can't get over the fact that the whole reason why Palpatine is ultimately defeated is because he announced his presence to the galaxy. And that was in the crawl itself. The opening crawl, this movie, creates such a profound contradiction in the plot or stupidity in the plot that... Ah, the... And because he wouldn't stop doing the lightning when it started disintegrating him. I would have stopped. I'm like, ow, that fucking hurts. Oh, shit. This isn't working properly. It's trying to stop pissing, like, midstream. You know what I mean? Like, I'm probably going to have to finish. My favorite part, though, is the scene where Kylo is talking to Palpatine is when Palpatine says, the girl, she's not who you think she is. And then he pulls like a smile that's just like, I've been fucking. Like, that's just... I've been getting busy. Also, I don't want to let anything slide on this movie, because, you know, he announces to the galaxy he's alive. And so when we see Kylo is killing all these guys and he gets a, like, a Sith holocron and everything, how did he learn where that thing was? It was really hard for Rain to find where the other one was. Yeah, and he didn't have Palpatine. What other thing is telling you about Palpatine? He had Darth Wuchi's other knife. Because here's what I know. What I know is that if I want to stay secret, right, if I want to stay hidden from the world and I send out assassins, what I do is I put the location where I'm at on the weapons my assassins use. Oh, man. I've got so many questions. I love how it just bleeds all over the film. Like, we cannot stay chronologically so hard. And also, like, isn't it pretty interesting that the blade has a little compartment on it that just so happens to perfectly match the... Oh, I laughed in the theater. It reminded me of the Family Guy thing. That's where one I'd really buried his gold. This is... This is JJ trying to have an Indiana Jones moment. Like, doing a bit of treasure hunting. But the thing about these wayfinders is you have to physically take the wayfinder and use it to get to the homeworld, right? So you can only take that thing from its location and use it once, basically. So no one's ever found it before. They broadcast the... Once they have the location from the wayfinder, they just broadcast it to the rest of the fleet. And so, you don't actually need the wayfinder to get there. Once they have the coordinates. But then whenever, when you see Kylo using it, he's having to, like, interface it into his TIE fighter. It's almost like it's acting as some kind of navigation system for him. Oh, do you remember? So it's not like you can just look at it and know you have to kind of take it with you, I think. But no, but at the end, everyone else get there. The Galactic Fleet. You know, the Millennium Falcon with like, Lando. They don't have the wayfinders to go through all that crap. Like, because when Rey is flying through... Rey sends a message. Yeah, she's flying through an X-Wing and she broadcasts the coordinates to everyone letting everyone else pass through. So you don't actually need the wayfinder to get there. You just need the coordinates. Oh, yeah. So that was the interesting thing, right? They showed it on screen. She went from, like, dot to dot to dot. And in different directions, implying that it's not a straight shot, you've got to do all these things. But the place you see them fly through, it's all moving. It's in space. It's all moving, though. All of the, like, the Red Spacecad three stuff, like, that you have to avoid. It's all shifting. It's like, how can it be just... How can you... The only way, the only way is that... Is that Red Nebula? No, no. If that Red, like, Nebula of some kind was actually a portal into another spatial dimension that the planet was, like, lost in. So the only way you could... Yeah, that's Evil Scythe Force magic. That's totally not what's presented. No, that makes... I know that's not presented. There's a bigger issue of that, that's true. How did the Scythe ever leave? How did they find out how to... They all got holocrons. How'd they build their ships, though? There's no resources on that. I know! I guess! They had, like, the UPS guy had to be given a Wafi. Yeah, but, like, what do they eat? It's stuff like that. How do you exist on this planet? There's nothing here. How do you get equipment? It's a desolate planet with gravity wells and electric spikes of all kind and there is no infrastructure there for huge factories to build a fleet larger, like, you would assume the entire forces of the original Empire that required the resources of an entire galaxy to be able to build and sustain. That was implied. And now they have a single planet with no factories or anything there and somehow they build the largest fleet the galaxy has ever seen with bloody Death Stars on, like, lasers on their heads. It's not Dr. Evil. I want Star Destroyers with fucking Death Star lasers on their heads. Every single one of them. Everything is right. When it comes to the whole Scythe planet there's so much wrong with it and the thing that we were talking about before was does this like mean that Korriban isn't in, like, this? Because they said this is the Scythe homeworld but Korriban isn't... Yeah, Korriban's retcon now. Where's Korriban come from specifically? It's not in the Republic. Not even before then, the comic books and everything like Korriban was originally the homeworld of the Scythe race. The Scythe race was actually a different species in Star Wars and had these weird, kind of like, flappy, like flesh. They were red, right? Yeah, they were red and they hung over their things and they were supposed to be the first ones that embraced the dark side or something. And they were the Scythe and they were from Korriban. Yeah, but that's all retcons. Doesn't exist. Um... I figure, we're gonna make sure we catch absolutely everything so I'm just gonna, I'll just read out the next portion of this retarded fucking opening and, uh... We'll just keep on truckin'. So, General Leo Orgada dispatches secret agents to gather intelligence. I thought that was funny. I was just like... I think that's optimistic. Gather intelligence. And again, I just want to point out another like someone who was trying to defend this film tried to point out to me and says, No, no, no. Palpatine only broadcasts this to Kylo Ren. It's like, no, no. No. He broadcasts it to the galaxy. The galaxy is the malevolent voice of Palpatine. And that, and Leia, she heard it too. She dispatches spies. When they get that, that, that intelligence they say that the intelligence confirms he's alive, right? That's what they say. Like, so that they've been hearing his voice and then they get information from their spy that's like, Yup, he's alive. He's at Exegol. Exegol is this... Which, I have so many fucking points to make. I'm trying to choose which one I want to do first. The message from the spy, right? Why couldn't he have just sent it via email? That's a big message. That's not how it works. You have to send it through a tube into R2-T2. I mean, there's star plans I can get because the data in those plans would be astronomical, that bandwidth, something like that, right? But this was a simple message that basically said, oh, um, yeah, the Palpatine he is alive. Is he telling me he could have sent this information with a fucking carrier pigeon fitting on a skull? That's all that is. But no, they have to plug it into R2 and you see the upload thing on his thing. How could he take that log when it's like... I know! Email today doesn't take that long. It was a message that small. It's almost instantaneous for us. I wonder what the message actually says. It's fucking notepad like a fucking sticker. I'll have to watch it again. But isn't all they get out of it that Exegol is a place, the emperor has a fleet there, the emperor is alive and well, well, alive there. Like that's it, right? Yeah, and he wants to attack within a certain time frame. Yeah, and he wants to attack. There's nothing, there's not even a schematic. There's not like a readout. It's just a casual sentence. They could send us a hologram. They could do hologram Skype calls in the prequels. God, we're not even 1% into this film. What's up, something? What's up? It's me, Palpatine. I'm back. I know, right? It's crazy. Hashtag do it. Someone said, Tell Shad the Death Star plans are transmitted in A New Hope. Death Star plans, I can believe, are very complicated. I mean, and even in the single movie, Rogue One, the transmission took a while and required a massive antenna and they needed to be like their shield was blocking it off and all that stuff. So that was also implying that this is a lot of information they tried to transmit. So, yeah. Yeah, I just thought it was funny that it was like layers gathering intelligence, non-descript intelligence. She was out there putting her feelers out for intelligence. While Rey, the last hope of the Jedi trains for battle against the diabolical first order. I have to agree with Poe. What the fuck is she doing? Like, train it? You're like the best, most powerful person on our team, woman. We need you. Very early, very early on we discovered that Poe is pretty annoyed that Rey, who's obviously their best person at fucking everything. Everything. Isn't out there helping them? She says that I have to train and Poe's like, train? No, you should be out there. You've beaten everyone already. And did Rey actually say that she's their best pilot or best fighter? Because I thought that was Poe. I thought Poe was like, his big thing was he was the best pilot. Yeah, well, if my dad used to be his thing for this movie, you would be forgiven for thinking Poe was actually not that great of a pilot at all. Yeah, he's about to do the light sprinting thing and then Chewie says something and then he goes, yeah, well, Rey's not here, is she? Oh my god, like, he's supposed to be pilot man. Like, what the hell? It is Rey. It's just that Rey can bang on about that compressor thing again. Oh, you've overloaded the compressor. I love, yeah, by the way, the first thing she says to him is like, you can't do that because of blah, blah, blah. He's like, well, I did. I did. And I love that they're angry at him. Finn thinks it was reckless. She's angry at him. It's like, you realize there's nothing else. Yeah, I was going to say, Shad, you said you didn't know why they were doing the light skipping thing, right? Yeah, they do. Well, they're doing it because of the hyperspace tracker. They don't say that. No, I agree. But like the clue would be that the Thai fighters keep jumping after them. If you know what I mean? Yeah, like that would be the but I'm blown away by the fact that the hyperspace tracker is now on individuals. Thai fighters. It's not quite a massive component in a Star Destroyer last movie that they had to turn this movie JJ made it worse. He didn't have to do that. You could have just had it so that a scout troop of Thai fighters, you know, because they're all around the world looking for different possible entry points for how everyone's fucking everything up with the resistance or whatever. But no, he was just like, yeah, each Thai fighter can track you now. It's like, wow. And hang on. Didn't Han Solo say in The Force Awakens that coming out of hyperspace in a planet's atmosphere is insanity and one of the most difficult things anyone's ever done. And he was like, you can't do that as well. I'll risk it, right? But when Poe hyperspace jumps, skips or whatever he's coming out in atmosphere multiple times. In Force Awakens, he's talking about they're trying to go past a shield, right? That has a refresh rate of whatever so he has to get. Yeah, I agree. I totally agree with you that of all the things you could randomly light speed into all hyperdrive into, sorry. He bumps into three consecutive planets like what? Not only three consecutive planets, but three planets with giant Cthulhu monsters and towers and everything all over the place. Just fucking go somewhere else, man. Imagine how, because JJ was probably like we got to make it interesting, right? But you just do it realistically and he goes, wow, they travel to space, that they travel again is space, travel again is space. He could tell that somewhere else each time, like he also, he also said last try maybe he said last to tab, maybe forever or something with the last one. Does that mean that wherever they ended up, hopefully they would, you know, they'd lost the typhus but they went home and they ran out of fuel or whatever. It's a good thing they didn't all follow us back here to our base. I think it was just a case of overloading their systems or something like if you do it in short order too much it'll blow up or whatever. But whatever, it had no repercussions. Well, the Falcon got damaged and Ray was all pissed at it, but I was just like, woman they're alive, they've got the info. I was annoyed because I was just what was he supposed to do? I didn't know that Falcon was upset over your ship. Fringy had the point there is like if it was a choice between hyperspace skipping and death Ray was supposed to imply that she would have rather than die then. You should have chosen death. I had the thought that would they try to imply that if Ray was there she could have escaped without light speed skipping? No, they were just implying that she would have advised them not to do it because of the compressor bullshit. Because that's the first thing she lectures them about when they arrive, so she's not here to stop me. How many TIE fighters actually on the Falcon's tail at that point? Are you saying they should have just taken them on? They should have just fought them! Paul Cote! They knock out loads of them, don't they? It's just TIE fighters. They're not that dangerous to them. They've wiped out so many, so easily. Are there new super TIE fighters each one of them has the fire fighters destroyed? I can't believe they all have a hyperspace tracker attached to them. Not only do they have a hyperspace tracker attached to all of them, but it seems to be automatic. Like they go and the TIE fighters seconds behind. How much is this going to fuck up future battles though? If they make more Star Wars movies and they've got to incorporate this into battles now, how impossible is this going to be to write? I think the next person to write for this is going to be like, no, fuck you! The trackers are all broken down and we don't know why. We've invented new technology that makes the trackers redundant and not work anymore. TIE fighters also have hyperdrive now. Honestly? After you just say that, yeah, what I'll do is just, as a writer, I'll be like, hyperdrive used to run on a singular frequency. Everybody now is just they do use a random frequency to use it so you can't track it. Or is there a way to go into battle? Everyone got your tracker jammers ready? Exactly, just a tracker jammer. That's the kind of thing we'd be like, thanks by the way, Ryan. Thanks a lot. Man, remember we didn't have to worry about this? JJ just ran with it, man. Under one in a million things. I honestly think he did it to give him that scene where we've never seen that in Star Wars before. The hyperspace, hyperspace, hyperspace into all these different sort of giant rooms. Yes, the Han Solo equivalent of cheap world building that is meaningless. New things without any weight to them or interest. With all of this hyperspace tracking with the hyperspace kamikaze the rise of Skywalker has basically become the lower equivalence of the English language and it's just one massive mess. I can't make it work. You can try and pull out different pieces of stuff. It was kind of like hyperspace tracking is like an irregular verb. Yeah. Except, I have to re-except after C but here's 37 examples where that doesn't count in hyperspace. That's the English language I just created by Ryan. So then, Oh my goodness. I guess it ends with Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren rages in search of the Phantom Emperor determined to destroy any threat to his power. I'm just going to say that sentence structure there and the word choice is absolutely terrible. Yeah. Rage in search of something. Rage is in search of a phantom embryo. I almost think they meant to say range. He's ranging in search of him but he's just, no you don't understand he's angrily looking, okay? He's upset. That's what Kylo is. When you've lost your phone and you've looked everywhere that you think it reasonably should be and you're getting pissed off. That's what I love to do. The first planet he goes to is apparently Mustafar. That was confirmed by the visual dictionary. Obviously, there's nothing in the film I think that definitively says that. Wait, where does he go to Mustafar? That's the opening. That doesn't look like Mustafar. Who or what is he actually fighting? I was going to say right in the leaks I remember us reading that the two wayfinders it was the Emperor's wayfinder and Vader's wayfinder that's what they referred to as which makes kind of sense if Vader's would be on Mustafar and the Emperor's would be in his throne room or at least some kind of weird bathroom attached to it. But I was like if it's Vader's, why would Vader put it in a stone block in the middle of a forest? What? And then who's he fighting? Why would the people on Mustafar be like anti-Sith, you know? He just arrived there and just slaughtered them all. They're trying to help him but he's like I'm reaching in search of this thing. I think they'll please help me right over there in that box. Stop killing us please. We mentioned the breakneck speed of this film I just want to reference the fact that we see him kill a couple of people in slow motion, he picks up the object it zooms into it, it shows him flying through the space cancer already going to the Emperor. It's like whoa, alright, chill out. The fuck's happening. Those came attached to the thing. Apparently that works somehow. Did you guys notice the fact that he moonwalked his way into a lightsaber strike? Yeah. Oh yes. It was so cool though. He walked behind him and then he like steps back into someone. It's so unnecessary. You could just attack the normal. Your swordman. How practical is that? How practical is moonwalking and medieval warfare? Yes. We need to know. I can't even say how bad it is. He was very nice of them. Another point in the fight scenes when he's fighting the Knights of Wrenwright he turns like a round, a lightsaber on his back. He poses there and waits for someone to hit the lightsaber for a good while, right? Yeah, I remember that. He's pleased when it happens, right? Yeah. He makes a face of like, hey. That's so cool. It's so cool being here again. I'm going to vote for it. Just hit them and they'd be dead. The fact that he has the lightsaber anyways. Oh yeah, this is... You could transport objects through the force now. It just works now. They set it up with the water. It makes total sense that you can tell anything you want. These Sith holocrons, they seem to be fairly insecure. You'd think if the Sith made these things which leads to their home world they would have a code to access the information inside like anyone who picks them up. All you need to do is attach a few wires to them and boom, they work. Yeah. So, I think we kind of talked about this a little bit, but this is the seed to talk about it. There is a specific shot where he's heading to the planet and you can see the space cancer in the distance and do you know what's surrounding it? It's a lot of area that's blank. Seems to me you might be able to go around space cancer. Well, of course, it's space. It's not like a road where someone set up a toll booth. It comes across that way like you're not allowed to go here unless you go through that and everyone has to abide by it. It's like an unofficial rule. Yeah, it's like that would take me outside the shipping lane. I can't go that way. It just lands and looks like I didn't need to go through this. The entire huge fleet shows up at the end. They're about to go through the space. Cancer land is like can we go around it and I don't know fucking pose like no. No. That's not very sporting. We're just we're just going to go around it. No, you can't. Oh, fuck, they can. Drama. No, guys, come back to drama. Was he in hyperspace going through the space cancer or flying regularly? I'm pretty sure he was flying regularly. Flying regularly. I think that's what they were trying to say. It was like a weird version of hyperspace which took you to a completely different part of the universe, little in galaxy. Okay, that might explain the space cancer, but if they're just flying regularly, I don't know. But it was like physically there though, like when he said normal speed. They did this in Mass Effect too when they go to the Reaper World or whatever. You have to jump into a certain like coordinate place that's a little safe spot and then you show up and there's debris and blown up ships and crap like that. You go to the Collector Base. Yes, the Collector Base. There was like danger, but there was a reason where they had to like jump into that one spot. No, it's because they were in the Galactic Core. So, yeah. I don't say, yeah, dangerous shipyard and all that. They actually put some thought into it. There's almost like writer's danger. Writer's given a shit. What do you mean? I don't remember that anymore. What's that like? It was a wonderful time. It was a joyous time. Decades ago. Before Disney. So, what about like... Because we'll try and throw some positives in, I guess. What do you guys think of the place that the Emperor is chilling in this whole like... These are like statues. It looks cool. I mean, you know, the amenities are pretty lacking, but the outlook is nice. Yeah. It's very much a video game final level. Yeah, I'd agree with that. I think it has a cool factor and I'm happy to say I was like, oh, that's neat. This is kind of like Star Wars Moria. They're like, all right. They really play every trick in the book. Like with the cinematography. You know, lightning strikes. Yeah, like everything they can do to make this place look as sinister as possible. I mean, I like strange noises. Oh, yeah. Well, it's making like... I don't even know what you would call it, but you know, like... almost stretched violin sounds. Like... It's like... Oh, that must be annoying when you live there for years. Like, if that was your actual home world, like how depressing would you like... You can't live there if you have epilepsy. How could anyone live there? I was gonna say, I don't think anyone's gonna live there. No, but then... Thousands of people live there, apparently, so I'm kind of wrong about that. It raises a good question. How could this be the Sith homeworld if it's certainly a spitable term? I know how. I know how. The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities. Stop it! Maybe it was nicer once, and then the space cancer took over, and then it just turned to shit after that. Yeah, the Amazon guy couldn't get here after that, so things have been shit. Someone in chat just asked, how did she get back to Exegol when his wayfinder was in his vault or whatever, and Vedas was stuck in Mustafa? He asked the same question in my video. Sith memories. If you had the coordinates, you could just go there, so I guess you did that. That's thrown by Rey. Once you have the coordinates, you don't even need the wayfinder. Which is dumb, because you can't... I know it's dumb. If you have the planet, right? Man, you better hope no one finds that planet of yours because it's not like you could move it. The Force. They're just really good at keeping secrets. I guess. Surrounded by impenetrable forests. They should have... in barriers of blockage. They should have just said the whole space cancer surrounded the planet. But then again, you'd be like, how the hell are you going to get star destroyers out of there then? It's within a galactic cloud of gas. General Pride gets there. Did he go through this? How did he get through there? Well, he was commanding the ships at the end. Also, all of those troops made it there. Are all those troops like those beard robe dudes? And just armor now? I mean, it's not like armor. And each of the star destroyers are fully stocked. Where are they getting the resources? General Pride makes a statement as well. Like saying, if we can get position of this fleet, it'll increase our resources a thousand fold. Ten thousand fold. Ten thousand fold. So even say there's like ten thousand ships, which is a stretch. Ten thousands of these stars. That means you've got one of your own. I guess he's counting them as like more because they can destroy a planet each. Which means you can't get any resources from it. It's so weird. But then it's so unclear. What is the first order's situation? Are they on the ropes? Will building? What are you talking about? The previous movie implied that they were in control of the whole galaxy. Yeah, so then what do you need these star destroyers for? Get more control of the galaxy. Okay, planet destroying technology is now so like you can make that so compact and apparently you can just make thousands of them on a whim. Star destroyer hovering over every planet in the galaxy. It sounds like JJ has completely fucking ruined that as a concept in the world now. It's just like they're gonna sell guns that can destroy planets soon. It's the equivalent of everyone being able to just buy nukes on Amazon. When everyone's super. I mentioned this in my video. One of the implications of the Death Star was to produce the energy required to be able to destroy a planet. You needed generators and mechanical stuff of such sheer magnitude and required being a small moon to just reach that. And that's completely out the window now. It's just a gun. It's just an attachment. You can pop it on a fucking X-Wing. It's a tier four upgrade for your ships and you just slap that puppy on there. The M4A1 attachment Death Star laser. Throw it off. You equip your ships with an underbarrel planet destroyer. People try and say it's a progression of technology. So you're saying in like 40 years they managed to compress something that required a small moon to be able to achieve into something the size of a star destroyer. That's not just a progression in technology. That's a leap of unfathomable magnitude in such a short time. Like, oh my goodness. What you're forgetting is that the force... No, stop it. We have invented technology. You could have never conceived. The will of the force. Well, there's also the problem as well. What if one of these ships was boarded by the enemy and fell into enemy hands? Suddenly, your enemy got control of a planet-killing ship. They immediately target Exegol and Palpatine's like, Not again. Damn you, Jedi. Palpatine would survive if Exegol got loaded, I guess. If the laser was literally pointed at its eyeball, he'd survive. He's still alive. He's clearly still alive, guys. He melted in front of the camera, but he survived worse. I do love the idea that Disney are like, he didn't die before, but he's dead now, and it's like, oh, okay. You sure? They're like, well, it depends how long the actor lives before we might bring it back. I mean, with Grand Moff Tarkin, that's not even true, is it? I mean, Leia was in the... Can we talk about Leia? Why not? I am sure you will be able to add to this. But when I watched this movie, this film, this experience, I felt like the Leia bits were very clunky and awkward. Oh, yeah, I thought that impression. The actress was dead, you know? Well, it's clear like, they obviously had to construct scenes entirely around what little snippets of dialogue they actually had her saying. You know, there was a bit where she was just like, be optimistic, and it's like, oh, fuck, we need to construct an entire situation that's going to justify her saying that thing. What deleted scene from The Last Jedi was that pulled from? It was like, just... They have her, like, they show her from the front, saying, like, Ray, I need to tell you something. Then they cut through a behind-the-view from her. All the specific stuff to the situation. And then it cuts to her front again, as she says, like, you see, that's what I had to say. It's the bit where she walks away and Maz can act. She's just like, Leia knows what she has to do now. She just speaks for it. It's so awkward. They should have just fucking had, like, the entire film Leia whispering into someone's ear and then going, what's that, Leia? You're saying, you're saying we should destroy... You're saying we need to go to school? The super awkward thing for me, right, is there's a deleted scene that I've seen. I talk about it. I'm pretty sure I've actually... where she says to, like, they're concerned about BB-8 and Poe because of what's happened in Force Awakens, like, the opening scene. And it's, funnily enough, it's, what's his name? Snap Wexley talking to her. Who's Snap Wexley? He's Discount Porkins. Oh. Is he the big one? I guess he's a larger gentleman. Is he the portly gentleman? I mean, I think I brought this up on the other stream, but so his name is Greg Grunberg. That's a great name. Wait, is that his real name or a Star Wars name? No, it's his real name. Okay. Snap Wexley. There's someone in this movie called Babu Frick. Don't give me this bullshit. Okay, all right, look. I actually liked him in... He was the mind-reading man in Heroes Season 1. He was good in that. He was also in All of Alias. He's a good friend of J.J. Abrams, as far as I'm aware. He was in the Force Awakens relatively briefly, but he was still there. Ryan forgot about him. And he just wasn't in TLJ, even though we saw what was left of the resistance on that ship. He's not in the film. He alone was 5% of the resistance. I mean, he was a large guy. Maybe he's 10%. He was off sick that day, maybe. And he just comes back. But there's a deleted scene where he's talking about... I think it's him. It could be someone else. Talking about the dire situation of Poe having been captured at the beginning of Force Awakens. And the droid hasn't been found. And then they're like, Oh, God, we're fucked. And then she says, Never underestimate a droid. And then when I saw her say that, it rises sky-wide. I was like, Oh. Oh, dear. And you know, that's how they did it. They looked at all of their footage of her. And they're like, How can we wedge this into the film? He's like, Yeah, but definitely felt like you knew she wasn't there. You knew that this was camera trickery. You know, this was repurposing of scenes. All of her dialogue seemed short, glib, awkward. It was really, really strange, certainly noticeable while I was watching it. To the point where, man, she was in this film fake her ghost play. Yeah, way too much. Absolutely. And then they're just like, Yeah, she's done. You know, I keep wondering, would it have been better to just kill her off-screen and have the movie kind of open with her funeral or something like that? Yes. There would have been so much more things. I think so, actually, yeah. I think so, yeah. I think so. Does anything even change if we take her out of the movie? Yeah, Ben. Ben wouldn't have got stabbed. We can totally change that. Yeah, we can get around that. Raise a dick. Yeah. That was an interesting moment though. It was like, Holy shit, I think Ray's going to leave it. Oh, apparently, according to Midnight's Edge, it was only Repipa's TFA footage. There was no TLJ footage that was used. I heard that. I don't know if there's a particular reason. Maybe he really just hates that film. It's taken it a bit far, but all right. I wouldn't even use ATX from it. I'm not going to give Ryan credit for anything. Fuck you, Ryan. We'll get to that. This film totally middle fingers Ryan Johnson so many times. It is so fair. Fingers Ryan Johnson. Yes. Yes, it does. Right in the bottom hole. The Emperor tells Kylo that he has been the voice of Vader, the voice of Snoke, and obviously himself inside Kylo's head this whole time. Now, this is a pretty big deal, considering that The Force Awakens made it very clear that the motivation for Kylo almost entirely is that Vader has been talking to him about how he needs to do X, Y, and Z. And obviously we all took issue with it as viewers, because we were like, but Vader's a good man. That doesn't make any sense. And so it would be like, apparently no one told Kylo that he was a good man and that he just believed that Vader was bullshitting everyone else. But like finding this out should be like world shattering. Like you, Vader wasn't real this whole time. Wow. Yeah, the whole reason I've been here is a lie. I have to go back and tell Luke that, like, oh my God, like I've been tricked. I'm so sorry. I can't believe it. I fucked up and I'm so sorry. Well, there's kind of other implication to this as well, because if Palpatine was controlling Snoke as a puppet, then he was aware that Kylo Ren betrayed Snoke and murdered him. So why would he try and enlist his help now when he's like, yeah, you're clearly the kind of person who kills your master. There's a key piece of dialogue. He wants that. He wants to be killed in anger, though. But it has to be by Rey. No, I don't think he cares about that. Palpatine didn't need Kylo or Rey. He had a full fleet. He could have conquered the galaxy just by himself. Yeah, but he's a flimpy corpse. He needs his... He wouldn't even be in that sweetest young Jedi juice. I have to suck your... I'm like a dementor. I have to suck out your soul or some shit. This is why his plan is so unsensical. He didn't know he could absorb life force when they get together. That was a surprise. It wasn't to do that. Okay, he wants Rey dead. So it isn't to overtake Rey's body. So is he wanting to overtake Kylo's body? And if he does, why does he send Kylo out to kill Rey? He could have done it right then. He saw Kylo with his shirt off. He wants that body. I wanted to highlight, though. Do you remember when Kylo first Skype calls Rey? Or is he the first or second? He tells her that he's going to kill Palpatine. Kylo, Snoke was the one who set up the connection between you and Rey. Snoke is puppeteered by Palpatine. What makes you think Palpatine can't just listen to what you're saying right now? I already know he can transmit into Kylo's head. Yeah, he talks to him in his head. You're right. That's another huge moment in the film where I was like, hang on. You can't just talk to anybody at any moment for any... It's as casual as a phone call. He's like, hey, Kylo, I've got some updates for you. It's implied that it has to be Palpatine that's facilitating all of these encounters because, like Kylo mentions in The Last Jedi, you couldn't be doing this yourself when he's talking to Rey. It's like the strain of doing this would kill you. And then you find out that it was actually Snoke who was doing it, but then clearly it was Snoke controlled by Palpatine. So he must be aware of all of these conversations. He was controlling Snoke. We just say he made Snoke. I was going to say there's a key piece of dialogue where he says Snoke trained you well, implying Snoke was actually his own dude. It's just that Palpatine created him. Yeah, not I trained you well because that was me the whole time. Because honestly, I think Ryan Johnson would have actually... I would love to be on set when they were making TLJ and be like, Snoke is his own dude. Like I know he's not important. I know we don't care about his backstory and it's awesome that you're killing him. But he is his own dude, right? Like he makes his own decisions. He has his own interests. Yeah. Like are we supposed to... And I know that he'd be like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. The JG would just be in the background like plotting. He would just be in his head slowly. JG. Poor damn fool. JG's the Palpatine of the Star Wars. Yeah. Disney was manipulating both of them from behind the scenes. I was like, I'm going to suck me to the end of the movie they're going to kiss. I was going to highlight by the way, we only have one hour left before we're not allowed to talk about the movie anymore because that would be over the amount of time the movie is. So you know the rules guys. You know the rules. Yeah, it's a shame. Damn shame. We're also about to cross 10,000 live viewers. That's kind of surprising. Really? Yeah. Really cool. 9991. I think that's actually a record for an EFAP episode because we had the Game of Thrones discussion once that went over it I think but this is definitely the highest we've ever had. Oh really? People want to see us rip into this movie apparently. Really shit guys. It's really bad. It's a really shit movie, yeah. We're not going to finish. We could talk about this movie for 12 hours. Oh is this the thing we're barely scratching the surface? We've got so much to get through. EFAP. I had a nap this afternoon. I'm good to go. Oh this is like past the time I normally go to bed. So I might die. That's over 10k. There we go. We did it guys. High five. All right. See you next week everybody. Bye. Talk amongst yourselves. Clearly enough of you. So the fact that there's Snoke clothes in the tags despite the fact that Snoke has been running now for like 10 years does that mean he's been trying to make new ones? Or is it... Why keep those if they're the original? Or this actually could explain it that Snoke recently died therefore he's trying to make some new ones. Why? I mean... I don't know. This is a year later so yeah like if you had them in reserve why can't you just like send out a new Snoke to replace the original one? Well it's not even just that. Remember how powerful Snoke is? Like why would you not just want to mass produce these things? That's what I'm trying to say. Yes exactly. In the Clone Wars it's shown that making clones isn't that difficult once you have like the original DNA and stuff like that and so there shouldn't be too much... No but you know if he's having difficulty building... I mean he had no difficulty building 10,000 Star Destroyers but one clone. That's tough on there. It's a tricky one to get around. Well some people say that his army, that people who are crewing all these Star Destroyers are clones. But they all look different. But they all look different. But they were clones of multiple people. Oh right. So he's had the clone... I don't care where were the cloning vats there. What they did with the Camino together. And then if he's doing that why not make a few million Snoke's who are incredibly powerful Force users? Yeah. How's that for fucking the balance of the Force? Just to generate the real test to you. Why not just clone... Why not just clone another Rey? And then you've got one right there. Or clone like yourself. Clone Palpatine. You touched up the balance of the Force. Oh yeah but the balance of the Force is there's like 10,000 Sith on Exegol. So there was never balance. But what were they doing? They're just hanging out forever. And now where the Rise of Skywalker ends it's Rey and you're like okay so what's the balance like now? Is there going to be an evil Rey that pops up somewhere else? Well yes Rags. Did you see her in this movie? She was in a vision. She had golem face. She had golem teeth. But there has to be one though. There has to be out there a dark side Rey equivalent. Somewhere in the galaxy. No all the Sith are dead. It's a convenient all the Sith got crushed in the dead. Well no because the balance... We have no problems now. We have no problems until they want to make more movies and then we do exactly. Yay. You mentioned how confused... A whole there must be balance in the Force is very misunderstood. I think originally for the Force to be in balance it meant that the light side was in power. Like that is what true balance of the Force is the dark side is the anomaly and it isn't like equal dark side power and light side power but with the new sequels implying that no good can't be winning. It has to be a balance between evil and good and they're always fighting. That's what the Force is trying to do. The Force is a flipping jerk. Screw the Force if it is doing that. The video that Rags Wolf and I watched it was like yeah it makes total sense you have loads of Jedi they're all counterbalanced by Palpatine who then is like every one of them dies then Luke comes into counterbalance Palpatine like what no then it's like it makes sense because then you end up with Rey and she's counterbalanced by Kylo who's flipping between the... It's all very straightforward it makes complete sense and then at one point he just goes I'm not including Palpatine in this whole thing I don't even know if he's alive or not. It's just like we can't just ignore Palpatine. That chart did the opposite of what a chart is supposed to do. It was confusing as hell. The chart made it worse. Because it doesn't make sense. Because none of this makes sense. Even the original concept where if the Force was in balance by the light side being in power that was the true balance then the prophecy of Anakin bringing balance to the Force the Force was already in balance with the Jedi in power unless they're trying to say the Jedi were crapped and his whole purpose was to destroy the Jedi Order like... I think the whole concept behind the Jedi was that they were almost like force neutral because they strive to like eliminate emotions that's the underlying implications of the Jedi's philosophy and it's not a good philosophy you cannot believe in true good because that's an absolute and only sith deal in absolutes which is an absolute statement Objectively no review is objective We have to get rid of your emotions even though they're a part of you that you literally can't get rid of the wrinkles in your brain you can't make them go away You have to learn to not care about all the things that you care about that was what Yoda was saying learn to let go of all the things you were afraid to lose and so I was like you're not a failure man thanks Yoda gosh I hate Yoda now I love the Emperor Palpatine for the win next up he's like selling the final order to Kylo this is the proposition go kill Rey and I will give you all of my ships and you can take over the galaxy we've already taken over the galaxy were you offering me can I use one of those? you're bargaining with the supreme leader of the first order that's effectively the ruler of the galaxy already the galaxy trotting already and really why does so his palpatine's original plan is to make Kylo his successor he doesn't want to overtake Kylo he wants to set up Kylo as his successor but why? Kylo already has the galaxy was he trolling at that point? he was just using him to get Rey to him so that she can kill him and then take over her body and then kill Rey how does Kylo play into that then? so he's like there to facilitate it like I don't know maybe he knows that Kylo can't kill Rey because he's not willing to do it he was unaware of the force dyad even Kylo says he's unaware of the force dyad and remember he's shocked he's like oh my god a dyad of the force I can't believe you brought the dyad right to me oh my god my fingers are growing they're growing now I can jerk off so much the motivations of this character are just flippant at dying with the fingers growing back something else must have grown I need your last Kylo I need your big dick energy there has been an awakening my pants now that's what they mean by the rise oh my god I need like 10 minutes I'll be right back the 10,000 of you turn around I can't resist talking about it now because we're on the scene but you know he gets red clothing once he's rejuvenated I love the idea that they were on the floor knocked out and he walked off to his bedroom and he put on some new clothes he's like oh what would work in a situation like this I can't wear all black all blacks just die feast your eyes and despair on a scale of 1 to 10 how fly am I look at my swagger and when he's selling this to Kylo it's not connected in the back I am the chastle I think we've just pointed out that Palpatine could not have been manipulating Kylo because the defence would be he told Kylo to kill Rey knowing Kylo wouldn't be able to kill Rey and ultimately lead Rey to him but if he didn't know of the dyad then what the hell is his goal there's no guarantee that would work and he has a whole fleet of lackeys and everything if he really wanted Rey brought to him why is he relying on this shaky flimsy flip floppy dark side person who might even like him when he could have just sent out an army of people to kidnap her or whatever but it's too powerful that would work I think that up to the moment in which he was incinerated into pieces he would have just been like this is all a part of my plan this is exactly how I thought it was going to go even while he was being incinerated he's captured like Joker style he's just like yeah you think this isn't a part of my plan too so things just happen to work out from in other movies turns out he always just does random stuff and says this is part of my plan everyone in this universe is incompetent beyond belief if you think about it Kylo was never actually he was on top of Palpatine throughout the whole thing he immediately says he's going to actually kill Palpatine Palpatine doesn't know about the dyad which is true and that he just wants I guess he probably wants his ships I don't know if he does and you think about all the way to the end of the film he decides actually I'm going to kill the Emperor with Rey there's no point where the Emperor is tricked Kylo outside of just cheating the Emperor types in God mode into the console and just stops the both of them from doing anything I thought it was so disappointing it's just like oh they just lose that's right the fact that so you have Rey with a lightsaber Kylo with his lightsaber they approach Palpatine you're like oh my goodness and then he just force stops them nope oh okay he didn't block them on the head with their lightsabers like Snoke did though so he loses a point for that Snoke's got style I see you think like oh there's got to be like an epic lightsaber for it's like yay like nope stop it I'm glad we didn't get more she fee lightsaber what I want to see him go whoa spin around fighting with a lightsaber with that thing coming out of his rear end like moving him around like a party oh if only I didn't have this sith catheter attached to me yeah so they show his hands right like moving up would and then they show a star destroyer getting like pulled from beneath the ground up into the air you guys remember this right okay I have a lot of quest about this okay because I watched that and at no point did my brain connect the raising hand to him raising the entire fleet through the force like because that such an idea would be so ridiculous and so OP in the realms of force you know lifting manipulation that no way could anyone lift an entire more ridiculous thousands of ships I just took that they can go up they can I just took that with him you know mirroring it like and just timing it right that when he's raising his arms that the ships are you know initiating their anti-gravel whatever and raising up the same time not using the force but when I was watching angry Joe and he was saying he's lifting it with the force and I'm like no that can be because that would be I thought he was I thought he was like they were they were constructed underneath the icy surface of this planet keep them hidden right why why why why what's the point in hiding them let me ask you this what's the point in the main voyage of your brand new ship being plowed through the fucking ground why would you do that but since they the ships the ships can't go up so it must have been him lifting it up with the force well in fairness the navigation tower would have been active at that point right so they could go up they could go up because the tower was like oh yeah ups that that it's like you see me pointing it's like that tower is pointing up it is fucking retarded whether or not he moved it himself but that would be even stupider assuming he did I honestly think that's what they're implying yeah that he was lifting with the force III because if that's the case holy crap yeah he's pretty powerful oh oh and you see this shot where like you see like hundreds of them and several ships you see like hundreds of them and several of them have like soil and rocks falling off them implying they all just came from the surface and it's like dude damage really felt and I thought you're gonna say I saw you on them I saw you destroy it that's what they were eating we destroyed I saw you remember when the force was like this subtle thing that like might allow you to like move a rock or you'd be able to pull an object to yourself and then when you see someone cast force lightning it was like holy shit that's powerful man now we're just into realms where it's farcical and it can do anything and it's just it has no meaning anymore we are this level of game palpatine being able to destroy a planet with the force it has become harry potter magic that can do anything any time once upon a time like in the in the original trilogy and like if it stuck to the core you know utility of what the force was shown to do that actually formed a fairly solid hard magic system with good restrictions and limitations now they're just throwing it out the window and it can do anything that the plot wants to do and it just made it and it's become such a deus ex machina mechanic throughout this whole film like whenever you know someone's dead oh we'll just heal them whenever you know I'm about to be defeated oh all the Jedi will come to me and I have magic now that will save the day it is actually palpatine arrives palpatine arrives he's like why are you still alive and he just goes the force lol yeah yeah that's this film that is this film oh how did this work we're gonna get to those there's more of those that's how they do it in the movie that's how they've written them that's the thing like we were a previous e-fab stream we were talking about this and that some of the defenses people were saying about how something could happen would just be the force and we're saying it as a joke that it's so ridiculous just ends something with how does it happen the force and then palpatine actually says that in this movie the force like a meme has become reality now and is like no just in Relevance what we were talking about Emi said if it's some kind of exoplanet with really horrible weather and stuff maybe it's reasonable to build it underground which is a partial explanation but then why would you bring them out so early just to chill why would you not build them in space that's too but then also why the fuck would you drive them through the ground how dangerous is that in terms of just the shit ran through the funny and fine it couldn't go through like the ice come on come on now the ice is so broken and like fucked up on the star destroyers there's those like things at the top there's like two of them one on each side and they think they're the shield generators that they have to be destroyed first they imagine they get destroyed on their way up through the ground it just destroys the whole thing like well we probably could have done a better job clearly an example of just wanting a cool visual and not giving any thought at all to its deeper implications in the pod and everything like that he just JJ must have just wanted a visual thing of you know star destroyers rising out to the ground like an army of the undead maybe he's got more in common with Ryan than we thought I think so because when we watched the trailer and there are a thousand star destroyers it's like of course yeah of course she thought that was cool you know that was a cool shot the directors who make money are the ones who makes cool stuff to put in the trailer not the ones who make it well then you see the rebel fleet as well and it's just like in such insanely tight formation you're like yeah hundreds of those ships must have got destroyed oh god there's so much wrong with that it's I think it's part of the reason why these are sequel movies some sort of or at least they did trick a lot of people was because the shots are very nice so when you look at it you're like oh this looks really good but not like you know like superhero movie good this looks really good there's something more to this but it's not it's all like a trick it's a ruse now the talent lies in making cool looking shots it does right because when you look at the prequels you're like oh there's something that looks a little bit different about these you know what I mean they look a little bit shit not like height well I mean I don't think that episode three looks bad really at all so I disagree on that one but it doesn't look good oh fight fight fight fight fight you know in the original trilogy you know whenever you saw a ship it was a miniature that someone had to physically build yeah they should still be doing that yeah there's a certain feel and a look that you get to something like that and it just feels solid and real whereas now you're just very much aware that okay I can take a star destroyer in CGI and just copy paste it a thousand times yeah there's nothing involved in it there's no effort and there's no there's no there is effort you know I'm sure there is a major skill yeah you are yeah you are dampening the effort that they took to destroy everything okay that took some there's probably some CGI artists in the chat who are like oh sorry guys I think drinkers point is that it would be more difficult to have physically hand made those thousand you know starter stories and have a shot you wouldn't make a thousand of them the thing about it is the interesting for the ones in the back in terms of man hours plus cost versus the CGI stuff CGI stuff it's just like it all just gets put into this bin if you will and then everyone has to work with it while the other stuff you know you have to get sets ready up to get model artists there's all kinds of different things that come into it and um it just seems to me like I hate to say it it's not it's not a judgment on CGI artists at all it more so the director himself just being like CGI people can take care of that I think what we know is that because there's a lot of people who make videos like oh is CGI getting worse it's like well the CGI is not getting like worse the technology is there you can't regress once you've reached a certain level you know like you're only going to get better but it's a matter of time resources money and yeah whether or not the director knows how to use CGI because you often hear people talk about this it's like you know there's a lot of times where there's errors and stuff and it's like or it wasn't set up optimally for the CGI people they're like yeah they'll sort it out they'll fix it but then it's like there's always so much you can do with the amount of time that you have um what a digital video on Black Panther it is called parodigital borns that react to CGI right probably they're one on Black Panther it's amazing it goes into really great detail and how it all works oh the CGI in that film was disgusting exactly that they break down exactly everything it gets why it looks like it's in two scenes but the thing is it's the reason why because avatar still looks pretty good even though it's you know 10 years old at this point it still looks pretty good um and yet we have movies that come out afterwards that look really crappy even though that it should look better by the fact that the technology is better but there's budget one of the things I appreciated about force awakens was like a lot of the battle scenes were done on practical sets with pyrotechnics and stuff so you know when Finn and Poe are trying to escape in the tie fighter at the beginning they're shooting up the hangar you know those explosions and the people get flung around like that stunt men and real explosions and it just feels and looks so much better it looks so good I feel like I would assume they got less money for this movie is that no there's no doubt that they spent a shit ton on this I think they're talking about 300 million the reshoot and then the marketing budget like the marketing's been insane it's been everywhere on all kinds of objects they probably made this movie about three times do you guys see the budget they've spent the facebook emojis have been replaced with star wars things do you see the ad with the girl at the airport who's like got lights on so cringy they put fucking characters in fortnite they were really really desperate JJ Abrams is in fortnite for those of you who aren't aware in the fortnite scene unironically JJ Abrams is a skin for fortnite his special ability in the game is to blind you with lens flares and if you ask and don't even bother asking if it makes sense or not I feel like that would actually be pretty fun like if JJ actually approved that I'd be like hey it gets full I don't have abilities though I heard there was a reply to a youtube comment or twitter or something that palpatine survival was explained through fortnite does anyone know I think you're on to something actually I've heard this in order to get the full story of this movie I think you have to have played battlefront 2 fortnite and watched I just love the idea that we fight that out and then spotting school says he's like ah true cinema I want to know if he thinks the rise of skywalker is true cinema I would guess no here's a question are we allowed to talk about full order spoilers because wolf told me a spoiler from full order that has implications because most if not audiences wouldn't even consider it in canon with the mainline movies much like most games no you don't I didn't say it was okay well so can I talk about it then well what he showed me was that the planet that the star killer base is on like it's already part way constructed in jedi fallen order which is set between episodes 3 and 6 so the star killer base was being built before we even saw the death star for the first time like for the first time fully completed it was being made before a new hope that's not even a spoiler no really what is that what they're saying star killer base was being built before a new hope no oh my goodness since that it would take so long to build something like that I thought the empire and the first order weren't one and the same that's my point it's like their explanation would be they were building it for some other purpose you know they were making like another reason they were building something like a water park or something and they just yeah it definitely we we were trying to make the perfect rack of ribs guys we weren't trying to destroy planets or anything I promise everything about star killer base generator to generate like you know something like that they were turning the planet into some giant oh actually maybe wolf got it wrong couple of people saying they were strip mining it or something like that what's the planet star killer base is is it called illum yeah it's called illum I think James Morgan said you need to read Vader immortal to know why mustapha is ass Vader immortal and then you need to play fortnite in order to know why palpatine is back palpatine is mine I just checked for the scene that's only the scene where they go to no apparently it was like audio it's like a broadcast in fortnite around the world or something actually have to play fortnite to know we have to play fortnite to get the star wars lore we're in that timeline guys where did we go wrong what happened we are in the poop dimension default dance on the sith boys come back George we're so sorry George may have sold toys but he didn't sell the lore he sold the toys yeah the star killer base being constructed being constructed they've made a lot of progress by this point already I did wonder why does the trench have to go all the way around the planet when the cannon is only mounted in one part of it because there was a trench if you remember on the deaths originally the star killer base makes it one of the most stupid pieces crap ever put into a movie you can shoot multiple planets and people can watch those planets be destroyed several light years away which should have taken a few hundred years for that actual actually see it it shoots through high it is dumb on every level how do the clouds not fall in the trench oh my god does it rain now what if it rains over the how is the trench not a sea well we discussed this previously I think this planet moves between systems so that it can target it's next sorry the planet has a propulsion system imagine how taxing that must be to run well not just that but it has to fly through the vacuum of space away from any suns that are going to keep it warm so like it's going to drop to like minus 500 degrees I was actually getting a question you on that because because it can shoot through hyperspace I was thinking well that means it doesn't need a move to shoot but it has to absorb a star every time it has to go through a new solar system each time holy crap that's just got worse we've gone down the rabbit hole gentlemen we're coming back Star Wars well JJ Abrams has a famous quote Star Wars isn't about science so god damn it just enjoy yourselves jesus imagine you built that entire fucking planet sized base that was like that impractical and then found out oh yeah Palpatine can just like do the same thing with the Star Destroyer Palpatine's message was apparently at last the work of generations is complete the great era is corrected the day of victory is at hand the day of revenge the day of the Sith that's what was broadcasted in Fortnite and apparently that message is what they're referencing in the title crawl that's fucking hilarious I just love the idea gotta give people a reason to play fortnite yeah Poe is like you guys play fortnite he put out a message I have been playing fortnite for 36 years mastering my skills that's why his fingers are so fucked up he's going back the lore expands oh my god I can't believe how long this is gonna I knew this would take us ages but fuck it we are at 7 minutes excellent progress so again with the JJ tries some stuff here tries to do some good if you guys remember the scene where Poe and Finn are playing the space chess against Chewie and like Poe implies he's cheating and she was like what the fuck I kind of remember thinking like I kind of like that when Poe is like you've been playing this for 250 years I know you're cheating he's just trying to say like yeah I know you're good at this whatever JJ is good at this kind of rapid fire dialogue between characters that's one thing I'll say about it you can get a little bit of banter going and that's fine he's good at the bans it's just it's just unfortunate because I always felt I think a lot of people felt it was a mistake to separate Poe in the first film even they did because they literally resurrected him and then the whole the second film just separates everybody like Finn from Poe Poe from Ray Ray from Finn like nobody's together of our main cast so it's just like okay and now this film because that was the first thing that I think a lot of us know is from the trailers we were like oh look they're all on an adventure together it's like JJ's trying he's really trying he really is and that that is a good aspect of what he's been trying to do here I mean he's obviously listened to some of the criticism of the previous movies and he's done what he can to correct it but then having the three of them put together now it's just far too little too late like they should have history together but they got nothing because we've never had them together before I think we mentioned this on the um the the quick stream that me and uh Fringing J did but the the original trilogy set of characters are thrust together thanks to the plot like there's very definitive reasons why they're all together it's not because they all love each other it's that they've all got something specific that's happening um and we eventually through their adventures are like man I really like these people and I like them together and I really care about them these films is like look our characters are together you're like what oh why I guess that makes sense sort of yeah I guess they have a reason I yeah hang on didn't Ray even say that she was going to go after the thing by herself and then they were like no we're coming with you we're coming with you yeah yeah yeah look how she says it's dangerous it's like we're in a war yeah dangerous kind of what we do if it was Ryan Johnson directing then they would have relented and said all right you go on your own we're going to go on the plot because no if it was Ryan Johnson Ray would have like forced choked them and knocked them unconscious or something you go with some slaves my slaves I mean animals oh I didn't think about this um the way the chat just said the way Finder belongs to Vader so Anakin didn't tell Luke the Emperor had like a whole base and stay alive and that there was obvious star destroyers and just this whole thing is going on maybe Vader didn't know what it was the emperor just said to him like break this in case of an emergency this is a triangle to them just it's just look after it he's like okay he's like you know I want to look with my own eyes or something like that he's about to die he goes by the way just a small thing I do like that there would be no plot if um like what happened in Return of the Jedi was real and the um the second Death Star actually completely vaporized it's like well guess that's the end of that yeah what we saw with our lying eyes lucky all those vital areas happened to survive and crash intact onto a planet talk about um shocking stakes for like back in the day like it was 1983 was it that was returning the Jedi so let's picture there's an after the credits scene where we see Palpatine getting into his ship from surviving the blast everyone's like what then he arrives at Exegol and he's like how are the thousands of planet destroying Star Destroyer everybody's like what what so what was accomplished nothing it would blow them out they'd be like what nonsense is this like okay fuck what did our heroes do nothing well that's the big that's the that's the ultimate like pain of the sequel truanties it's like everything that they did counted for jack shit that's the whole thing well how the horrors of this right so someone was talking about how you can skip tlj now all you need to do is you watch tfa and then you find out that Luke died you just died he had like a heart attack and Snoke died and Kylo took over they both had heart attacks the role that happens and then everything sort of can run normally because the character quote-unquote development is pretty much either ignored or irrelevant um there's absolutely nothing there's nothing to there's no world building stakes either no concept of what's going on so but then also sadly if you look at this sort of saga as a whole you watch the prequels you can kind of just kind of just skip the OT like oh fuck I know how that sounds nothing happens like what do you need to see the OT for if the only goal is to understand how Palpatine is ultimately defeated it's like yeah you don't really need that part fuck you can literally skip the OT um thanks for the time save does it make more sense if you skip the OT because then you don't find out these characters don't seem as no it would have made it would have made it makes more sense without the it's like what do you mean these characters are inconsistent if I see this OT you speak of then you don't see how like then you don't see how Palpatine dies like oh you know maybe he was just like stabbed through the chest and he healed himself or something yeah he does yeah you don't see like it doesn't matter that Han is now a crappy smuggler anymore it doesn't matter that Luke Skywalker is like oh Han was who's this piece of shit deadbeat dad yeah it's just some guy he's like his dad I guess cause it's the original series that makes there the new interpretation of these characters so dumb and inconsistent but if you remove the original series and plus everything to do with Force Ghost being able to summon white like savers also makes more sense cause you know what it's in you're like why does no one just yeah it does it really does it basically makes this is why this is why the sequels will always be worse than the prequels because the prequels don't deal anywhere near this much damage to the Star Wars series but the sequels like pretty much undermine everything that the original trilogy did not only in terms of what actually happened in the plot but also a lot of the themes of the story um yeah they damage the themes someone incredibly cruel show someone the prequels and then the sequels and tell them those are the only movies that works oh jeez I would love that I would so absolutely love that they turn up to an informant who has been informed by a spy from the first order that is the plot they come out of hyperspace and then immediately begin collecting information but they're immediately ambushed by TIE fighters does this mean that the first order will like lying in weight? I guess they were on their way that's a good question seems weird to me we just needed some pu pu lasers in the beginning that's all we needed and I mean we've already mentioned how dumb it is that they need a physical link to transfer such a small simple message yeah but there's no such thing how does the first order know about this you know exchange so it's a spy spy it's a spy stuff I apologize for that joke then as we went over for some reason to transfer like a sentence of information it takes like a minute to put it through a big flimpy wire into r2d2 you could have just said it to him it literally has just been like this is the information your r2 is a 4.1 usb connection right because that's what we've got and I've got to find an adapter if he's not that thing we should have discussed earlier but the wire is so massive as well it's like the data is actually physically getting pushed into it like they printed out the sentence so they should be able to get through the wire it's just sludge like data sludge data sludge they literally could have called out how do computers function in this universe Jesus but like you're right they could have just called out Palpatine's alive he has a fleet of ships on this planet it's cold and it's going to attack in so many days that's the whole message right there I said it right there they could have just you could have written it on a piece of paper tied it to a rock and flung it in the hatch it's like do you remember by the way he's like how can we thank you for this information he goes win the war it's like all you've told us is that the emperor now has a thousand additional ships and you're telling us just win just win you'll be fine don't worry all destroy planets good luck this totally brings me back to the last Jedi where it's like oh they've got this hyperspace tracker on the 50 mile wide like flagship of the first order fleet and pose first responses so we blow it up how are you going to do that and then he's like I like where your head's at but that's not going to work because every single one of them has a tracker it's like my brain helps god damn yeah so that was a good time to get the war hammer they so they begin escaping as we covered they there's like a good I want to say 30 tie fighters chasing them but most of them get destroyed by they drop a thing like loads them get fucked up and then they do that's kind of why they do the hyperspace sort of hop each time every time they materialize like some of the tie fighters will hit some piece of debris or whatever and it's like we're going to keep doing that because we can fly them perhaps that could be looked at well I was going to say the first instance of good luck we've already had several instances of bad luck but uh just the idea that you have let's just say eight tie fighters following them and the Falcon they all hyperspace together because that's the other tracking and everything and they do it three times and all the tie fighters get wiped out the Falcon makes it it's like which one was the biggest ship out of all of them let's remember that hold those showed us that if you go through something while hyperspacing you crash into it so all of those jumps were that's one in a million they didn't travel through anything even though they landed on planets three times those are open galactic lines of sight I don't know how to survive this there's no words this movie is so terrible use the force to survive the stream do you think if JJ was forced to listen to this entire stream that he would what would his conclusion be oh I think he like wasn't he like what were you saying that he was like creatively tied into a corner and then like everything he made was changed creatively bankrupt I'm curious if he would be like yeah the film the film is flawed I wonder if he'd say that or if he'd Ryan Johnson and be like I'm not here at any good criticism that's one more for my family okay okay the movie is perfect JJ if you're in the chat then speak up we'll bring you on we'll bring you on you talk about what happened we love to pick your brain Disney doesn't give a shit about you fuck in the a's we're the people who really want to have call you better be fat 67 guest star like JJ man that would be the fucking day I feel like it's not that far off I feel like it's not that far off getting a director on like or someone who's worked in the film not the stars I want the voice actor for Babu Frick to come on hey hey the first place they have a space to is just a series of spikes loads of spikes I think they're supposed to try and imply it's like a comet of some kind but they're just like fishing through all the spikes like whoa like so upwards to get out of the spikes and then they jump and get to the exact same place but with buildings yeah no it's like Adolondo but it's space or something I got so confused by that planet because there's actually a mirror image of the Falcon above itself like it's either is water or a mirror above them and it's a mirror water planet it's really weird I was like hang on what's going on but then they jumped again before I could even try and process the stupid that was before me that's the strategy don't think things of the three possible things that could ever happen two of them were a series of incredibly dense obstacles it's like wow that's unlucky the third one was you're about to fly into the mouth of a giant Cthulhu whip like wow luckily the time space I didn't do it yeah the time fight didn't give a shit that's obviously where we need to go I want to nourish this creature with my body do you remember the weird like new alien it's like a big weird blob thing oh my god what the fuck was that is the dick with tendrils out of the end maybe it's just this weird alien that's on the intro and you see it at the end yeah because someone's hugging it at the end like it's done like it's got this part in the book I'm just picturing me like oh thank god the space dick alien survived does it have rule 34 I heard that thing had a larger you know like appearance in one of the original cuts why it was the secret Skywalker and blob blob Skywalker imagine this thing just lumbering in during the palpatine fight doesn't he say to the bluffing it's like repair that it's like this doesn't have any arms yeah it looks it looks at it yeah it's like repair it's like oh it what is that it looks like the one guy from it looks like his face reminds me of the dude from far escape oh yeah I know you're talking about right Joe yeah yeah yeah but can you imagine like if you were a recruitment officer for the rebels and like this thing lumbers up to you it's like oh yes I want to join it's like I don't know what we can really do with you what are your skills I can offer moral support from a distance I'm good for hugs you can't neglect the emotional health of your brave soldier it's totally the fucking alien personification of this emote we did it we saved star wars so like next up Rey's just casually floating like she's able to just levitate yeah seriously the second I saw it I was like well we've just fucked up everything again okay so you can just levitate now well this is the thing a lot of people might argue that that's possible it's this hook we've got to go one better you know when Luke was doing his training with Yoda he was balancing on one hand he was lifting rocks around him it's like that's good well we're going to make her float but if you can levitate does that mean you can fly at this point yeah that's the question other instances can anyone think of other instances where Jedi were levitating and people have pointed out Yoda when he was sitting on a chair in one of the original that was a hover chair thing I thought that was a hover chair I thought the chair was lifting him up everything that's ever happened has been the force like spaceships no that's the force a force jump and it's like okay fine you can go to strength a little bit lasers and blasters the other thing is when Rey fights Luke in The Last Jedi she knocks him off his feet and he levitates himself off the ground holding and then he drops okay and it's like alright maybe at a stretch at a stretch mild levitation but she's not just mild levitating she is fully flying in the air and then after she stops meditating she's like this isn't working and she's still floating in the air and then she casually lowers herself it's not like she's not levitating and then she drops it's not like the meditation is forcing it yeah if she was struggling and when she finally loses concentration she kind of falls to the ground and she's then pissed off it's like okay we'll find that took a huge amount of effort yeah like she's struggling we'll meditate she's doing it so easily she's like oh and then she does a backflip float down and it's like well that's a new useful power well if luckily for us it never would need to come up in this film there's no time where she needs to travel from certain areas to areas in a fast or easy way or no time when she's sinking in sand no no no time at all or when she gets assaulted by a tie fighter and it's interesting by the way because she comments that her goal with training here is trying to she's like I can't hear them or I can't connect to them she's referencing the fact she's trying to talk to past Jedi apparently because obviously it's a setup for the big payoff at the end how she beats Palpatine it's just like this is what you're focusing on when the world is about to be destroyed like okay and you're like yeah well she needs to do that in order to be the star destroyer this is the dumb way most of these things like when they establish force healing when they get attacked by the snake and she's just like oh I think I need to heal you why are you doing this everyone this is an experiment that you can do at home if you have a dog take your dog to the vet and see how much it loves you I'll get a hold of my comments on force healing oh yeah we'll get I have a lot to say about that her training sequence I don't know that anybody didn't conclude it's like oh JJ's trying to make up for the fact that she's not been trained nobody can now say that she's never had any training no one can say that anymore she's totally been training after she did all this well this is the yeah but Jay you forget right so she's OP she has training and she becomes godlike it makes sense but the training is inconsistent because she is so powerful so skilled by other movies yet in the training sequence you can't take on a little ball drone thing Kylo is like disrupting her focus I think that's the way they were trained oh yeah he's touching Vader's mask he's having a moment Kylo is getting strange feeling from the mask that is projecting to Ray and it's just distracting her you know having like a representation they're sort of straddling the line of dark and light with the example I would use is just having Luke just strangles the guards at the beginning of Return of the Jedi it's quite like oh shit he just straight up strangled them like when it's a matter of they didn't even attack him they're just like hey you can't come through here and he just kills them straight away and it's like shit and then he's like Jabba's surrender give me my friends or I will kill you basically like shit Luke what's going on buddy he's being pretty ruthless but at least you're like well he's trying to save his friends yeah we understand how and why and stuff but Ray is only altruistic and uses accidental sith powers it's because that's you sith I don't think you can do accidentally like I remember the other day I accidentally just built a computer I was just there it was the force in this movie has basically been abused beyond belief and it's just been the force is now it's just a get out of jail free card for the writers basically the thing force got you covered it's like insurance I have a serious question if force ghosts can touch stuff like light sabers and stuff can they come on stuff can they piss and shit on things Palpatine's announcing his plan that Obi-Wan goes stop it I'm sorry did I ruin your speech why didn't Luke just force ghost his way on to X a goal and summon some lighting and destroy all the star destroyers that's the question like when Luke caught the lightsaber I almost lost it I was like knock ya why doesn't he just take that lightsaber and fight with it because force ghosts are they like must be you know can't be killed fucking X-Wing you can use force powers as well now I've heard one of the excuses is that it's only on that planet that planet is so fucking bullshit the temple has been burned down they should have sent it in the movie then that would actually explain it it would actually see the only way I can rationalize this is that the force ghost of Luke is kind of manifesting through Rey and so subconsciously he's using her powers even if she's not aware of it it looks like he's catching the lightsaber but actually she's stopping it herself with the force but he's making it look like he's doing it same with lifting the X-Wing it's like fight club guys it's like fight club in space I don't like that it was about to strike anyway I hate this these concessions it's all not what it is like okay at no point did I say it's the planet that the planet is connected to the force and that force ghosts can interact with the physical world they don't say that the direct implication is that force ghosts can just do this crap now why would it be that planet when Luke went there specifically he brought himself up from the force why would he go to the planet that's super forcey where ghosts can even use the force if he wanted to escape the force what's up the origin did the Jedi originate on that planet like was that the origin of the Jedi planet I think they said it is what is Jedi temple yeah it's the first Jedi temple right is that what they say yeah so it may not be that the Jedi originated there but that's where they established their first is that how that works you just said this is the first temple it would boom and force ghosts permanently have power there maybe they built it there because of the force energy on that planet fuck off remember how yeah cause Obi-Wan died on the Death Star but he showed up on Dagobah and all that stuff on Hoth well yeah but then Luke showed up at Tatooine you can go anywhere as a force ghost so you should go to Exegol and summon lightning and destroy the fleet yeah this is why I joked about it before but I guess say it again what's the point of being alive yeah I mean you're a ghost you can tell me why Star Wars the true nihilistic series there's no meaning to living you should just be dead that's the same in religion though in religions where you die and you go to have what's the point in not dying well isn't it because the life on Earth is supposed to be the deciding factor for whether or not you get into it that's where you learn in the force power so are you really saying that if like a 3 year old dies they're going to hell because they don't fucking know the rules it depends on what religion you're talking about what kind of religion you're in so the idea that we've got literal proof like the ghosts are like hey we're super powerful you can just die and become this and there's no rules to this you just need to learn about it that's what they say in Star Wars you just need to learn how to do force ghostisms once you're dead and so the idea that it's like oh would you know like other religions do this like no it's not quite the same thing it's a little bit different it was previously established that to fade away on your death into a force ghost took a lot of training and exercise to do it and though there is one case where someone became a force ghost and dying naturally and that was Qui-Gon because Yoda says Qui-Gon is speaking to be a teacher to me about how to become a force ghost essentially but my point is that the fact that Kylo and even Leia disappear into force ghostum when they die it's like when did they learn how to do that it's a retcon that they've done because like I said even Mace Windu is a force ghost who speaks to Rey and so is one of the Jedi who died in Order 66 but it's like I thought Qui-Gon was the first and then it was Yoda and then Obi-Wan figured it out it's not that you don't become like the other Jedi who got killed in Order 66 didn't turn into ghost they're just dead yeah and obviously the reason I assume George did that was because it was like Jesus Christ we're gonna have to mop up a lot of plot holes if we don't do it that way because we're all the Jedi in the OT they should be hanging around it's a force ghost like hey bye what's going on he's like no no no it started with Yoda and Obi-Wan that explains why Yoda and Obi-Wan are the ghosts that show up Anakin does too though I suppose that you could argue it's like how did he know how to do it who told him well yeah that's another good point how did Anakin learn it but then it's just funny that Rey dies she doesn't disappear Kylo wakes her up and then he disappears we were so close we were so close yeah I know Rey Neely died that was actually a comical scene it is legitimately funny and the acting as much as they try it just is so ridiculous it's funny where it's just like you're dead I'll heal you I'm alive they kiss it's like Romeo and Juliet and then after they kiss Kylo he just decides to die I would decide to die in that situation I'm just curious if like he falls over then she puts her hand on him and he goes and then she falls over and he's like no no no they keep doing it while driving while driving the ship to us how come when Rey died she didn't turn into a force ghost but Kylo did that's what I just said yeah because Kylo is amazing she didn't deserve it even though she saved the universe do you prefer did she deserve it from Kylo I don't think Kylo deserved to continue living either do you think it's a slap to Kylo's character that he didn't get to show up as a force ghost it's just like oh well he's fucked by it's odd that they would go through the trouble of showing us that he was a force ghost but then he didn't show up with all the force ghosts if anything he'd be he'd be fresh he's like alright look at me when did all the force ghosts show up oh you're talking about the ending with Luke and Leia yeah Luke Leia and Hitler he's just there like hey someone make that edit no I've already got it I'll show it to you in a second we're doing it we're fucking doing it we've got to see this you talk while I scroll what are we up to now so the training montage is just trying to establish she has a reason for everything she drops a tree on BVA and I thought it was funny that she could lift all of these rocks but she decides to try and push it off him with her arms like what are you doing I like the BVA I like the BVA would have been like motherfucking just lifted off me and she's like no I don't think so they never use the force for fucking practical reasons in these movies it's always just look the force look I can float also she apparently like she can kill the training droid with a stick a stick like weapon if you will not a lightsaber I don't know why well she trained with the stick alright I figured it's been like a good year and a half whatever if it was a lightsaber but fuck it she's still just stick some more powerful than lightsabers it's true it's the thing as well where she's the pathway to many abilities when she's running through the obstacles like to get to the next section of her training course she has the lightsaber out and powered up and I'm just like why like surely running with that thing because we have to show lightsabers because of the Star Wars it would be so easy to slice a limb off like I said like when they're going through the tunnel and she's using it as a flashlight and everyone's just like next to her I'm like dude you know what that does right if you touch it and like get away from it yeah there must be like a power limitation on it as well like you don't want to just have it on time like it's going to eventually run out of energy no battery I would love to see that happen in combat it's just like it does the thing that I can't, what's the I know there's some property that's like satirizing it but you know like it flops over it's just like a floppy lightsaber is anyone got a lightsaber charger I thought the old one Spaceballs is just small right it comes out small I think it's family guy and then when the sun walks in it suddenly gets ironically this family guy like Blue Harvest movies they gave out of the sequel trilogy those are great movies that's what we're at that's like Pete family guy and robot chicken obviously robot chicken as well there are a lot of things that are about in the sequel trilogy oh we come to the first blatant well I guess this is all to be decided upon, guess what you guys think about it but Anakin's lightsaber being repaired would you put this into the category of films? definitely this and Kylo Ren's helmet are just complete the helmet is really obvious well the lightsaber there's not a scratch on it there's no like fused you know welded parts, it's like brand new well it's got like a strip around it scratch yeah it's got like a metal strip yeah it's got like a metal strip it's like a metal bandaid it's like a metal bandaid with Kylo's helmet instead of welding it back together they should have like started the film and he just had it on and then he gets like mad he takes that one off and destroys it and then he goes to a closet where he's just got like rows of them I got my Monday helmet I got my Tuesday helmet why did you have to get that specific one repaired like I didn't think there was anything unique about it it's just a little bit just buy a new one he destroyed it, he collected the pieces he takes it off the whole bunch what was the point of it he collected the pieces before the supremacy was destroyed yeah and then he collected them and he kept them with him and brought them to Exigol like he was expecting them to fix his helmet like that's why he really went wait they didn't fix it on Exigol though right or did they it wasn't repaired on Exigol it wasn't on one of the ships they just started destroying whatever yeah weren't the Knights of Wren watching him they were all around they were hoping him to repair it oh was that them was that the Knights of Wren repaired it Knights of Wren are back everyone our favorite characters the Knights of Wren the Knights of Wren it was supposedly they were set up as like the next Jedi or evil order instead of the Knights of Wren the Knights of Wren they ended up being glorified storm troopers less effective than storm troopers because they don't even have blasters they don't even have lightsabers they have just like metal they have clubs they have like axes like this is 1100 AD or something you realize you're going up against a guy with a weapon that can slice through metal as if it's butter yeah he pulls it out I'm leaving I'm leaving when they first fight him he doesn't have that they're nailing it but then he pulls it out and they're all like oh well I guess I'll do it he had a blaster start off with what happened to it but he did have a blaster going on oh yeah that's right he did I never saw the blaster he like legitimately does force shooting he shoots like he points without even looking and shoots someone square in the chest that's what Han Solo does never thrown his lightsaber into the sea because it's an evil color yeah I have that's in my script I was like gee if only you had thrown your fucking weapon into the ocean it's like yeah but it's red that always annoyed me maybe this is only a trick seriously though red's my favorite color right and if I became a Jedi I seriously would want a red lightsaber because I like the color but it's like no you don't let why it's not inherently evil you're not allowed that means you're a sith but red's a bad man is black pinned because Luke and Adanakins wearing black that's the color of the sith but they're allowed to wear back why can't I have lightsaber how dare you wear what they wore how dare you wear what they wore because red is red is communist and that is bad I've got that joke for you know when she's wearing Luke's helmet I'm gonna play the how dare you stand where he stood clip there was there was something about the X-wing actually you know when you were talking about getting lifted out of the water by force ghost Luke how the fuck can it still work after sitting you have to sleep 10 years I'm so angry about that part like because that establishes something so annoying but I'll wait until we get there give it a few hours we'll get there yeah we'll only get after the next 24 hours I was gonna say we have gone over the cap now guys we can no longer talk about the movie without talking about it longer than it is which we are failures as critics now we haven't even gotten to Babu Frick I know we haven't even said C-3PO yet like prediction wise I actually think we'll be up to like 6 hours before we finish this I don't even know it's gonna be a at least 6 hours like 12 hours at least yeah oh yeah me and rags will be there for that long but obviously you guys could stay as long as you want I'm thinking I might go to bed at some point and wake up and find you're still doing it that's a guarantee yeah I just sort of planned you for elkitism I'm here so Ray is checking out her sacred Jedi text she finds a picture did someone say boobs there no no one check out now there's not much slick air even the force has its limits I guess wow she happens to scroll to a page that has the way finder on it right before we find out that we need to go to Exegol that's what that page specifies so a lot of people concluded that this movie has elements of luck in it this would be one of those just a little bit lucky it's drawn as well it's like Luke's diary rather than the sacred Jedi text yeah they said Luke was taking notes and he wrote down looking for that thing it's like the grail diary scrolling your opinions on the bible and passing it around this is literally JJ trying to do Indiana Jones and this is like the grail diary with all these kind of notes about the treasure that they have to seek out and yeah it's just complete imitation yeah so they go ahead it's his notes that tip them off about the Jedi hunting guy what's his name Uchi it is Uchi I'm calling him Uchi he has Uchi in my heart I'm still confused how they found out that Uchi knew where a way finder was but he added is it implied that Uchi would have the way finder or he would have the dagger they said that the trail went cold at these specific coordinates it takes them to Pisana then they bump into Lando who tells them even more that wasn't in the book and that is that Uchi had it and that his ship is over there and that's all they know so was he a Darth or was he just a Sith assassin apparently not he was apparently an acolyte or someone who was interested like loved the Sith but isn't a Sith this is from the visual dictionary by the way it's not from the film well someone who really wanted the Sith to rule again and just worked for them I guess yeah he just thought they had good uniforms or something they were cool these Sith guys know what's up so in relation to like having chemistry as in like you know just banter and people getting along with each other they also do like JJ just like instant conflict just add water sort of thing where it's like you damage BBA you damage the falcon it's like you're reckless you should be with us it's like oh my goodness Poe and Ray have issues apparently I didn't even know they all we knew was they said hello to each other I felt the characterization was better done between these characters and Poe the issue is that I don't know these people or how they've met you know like I don't know enough about them to get invested in this I'm like oh my goodness they're arguing okay yeah but they're trying to play that for like sexual chemistry almost like you know well almost like you know when characters are like in conflict with each other but they're secretly attracted to each other but they can't show it so it comes out like in different ways well everyone thought that they were supposed to be hooking up after the end of TLJ the way they look at each other like hey nice met you it was like oh I thought Finn was interested in here but also Rose was interested in him he's a good looking guy let's do it like with the Force Awakens um uh Finn he legitimately really cared for Rey like and uh you know he tries to go and kind of sideline him yeah he gets friend-zoned hard man yeah but it's okay he's got Rose Tico is that the thing that he wanted to tell no that has been confirmed now JJ Abrams said what he wanted to tell Rey was that he was Force Sensitive Force Sensitive really? I thought it was I thought he was gonna tell Rey he loved her I thought that and if this is it that's the only thing you need to address and you know what why hasn't he told her it's the kind of thing you'd want to get off your chest before absolutely yeah why would you want to tell someone I sense the Force at your death like what point is like what is Rey supposed to do with that it's like oh well thank you for telling me that you could have used that I haven't think about my own shit while I'm dying why wasn't Leia training you exactly exactly he would have told her because fucking hell we need more Force users on our team I would say but I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure this is bullshit and I'll tell you why when we read the leaks a lot of them either were completely accurate or come across as things that would have been cut now the evidence I would say that strong for that one would be the Lando plotline everything seems to match from the leaks they've just cut things out and we'll get to that something that was in the leaks was that there was supposed to be a scene where Finn became jealous that Poe and Rey clearly have something going on and that she was going to explain to him that there's nothing between them that you know you don't have to worry that sort of thing and it's like oh that lines up perfectly with him being like Rey there's something I need to tell you about that specifically I think it was cut I think that they've cut that plot that he was like no it's just Force sensitive lol it's fine well the thing is right it was set up he was semi Force sensitive even from Force Awakens because it's used in the lightsaber he tries to take on you know Kylo and he gets beaten and to me that was such a good set I actually thought that he was going to become a Jedi after that like he tries to use the lightsaber at several points and that would have been great like it would have been brilliant like if they really wanted a really engaging interesting story it would have been that Rey she's so powerful already and then she falls to the dark side and Finn has to stop Rey and it's the fight and Kylo just whatever happens to Kylo but the true you know fight would have been between Finn and Rey that would have been brilliant that would require imagination and risk taking they're not going to do that Rey is perfect how dare you that would require Rey to have a flaw yeah the thing is though it actually works better to have a more powerful even you know type of antagonist if the heroes can you know fight them more properly and powers actually use logically because and Finn's arc would have been so much better because it started failing getting absolutely trounced by Kylo but then having to overcome those failings and become a legitimate Jedi now he has to take on someone who's just got it all from Get No she has just been the best but now she's evil so he has to really train to you know match her that would have been such a good arc and if he's in love with her as it's kind of like getting to that setup in the Force Awakens what a good dynamic between a hero and a villain like imagine her trying to persuade him to the dark side I love how like off the cuff in the space of two minutes we've come up with a better storyline than they managed in four years Devil's in the execution as though you know I feel like if we handed that if we handed that treatment to them they would fuck it up just as hard but I still stand by that there's not good ideas getting botched in this sequel trilogy yeah bringing Palpatine back is no garbage absolute garbage it was the cheapest kind of grab it nostalgia to try and get people in because they you know what's the saying about the lack of creativity in Hollywood it's just it's so true it's like I can't come up with anything you know unique and original and so when I saw that in the trailer I had already checked out where I was like that's just absolute war crap I think realistically that's all they could have done with what they had left after the last Jedi it was either that or have brave fall to the dark side I reckon Kylo could have become the main antagonist he's been beaten twice already though like what kind of threat does he pose he has the knife to run with him now if they started off the film with him having trained and gotten really stronger and then doing something vicious like really drastic to make him a true menacing villain like he actually if they started off the film with him killing off one of the main characters like Finn or Poe to show you how ruthless has become and is ready to just waylace sorry lay waste that would have set him up as a menacing antagonist for the film just right from the get go does Palpatine say I'm lending you my power to complete this mission and Palpatine now that Finn now that Kylo is in charge of the first order you can show what a brilliant strategist he is and that he was being like held back before and he can you know pose a threat to them with his brain and like his military tactics rather than by you know with the lightsaber fights which he obviously can't win against Rey and the rules of silence all I have to do is it's just so good that everyone is shocked into silence and then solo did you guys cash the line where she says like in their argument she says you're very difficult a difficult man I was like why did you why did you have to say that could it just be difficult I don't know women can't be difficult because that's the kind of line you might in the past have had against a woman but you can't say that now so we're just gonna flip that shit and then we'll see how you feel when you have to listen to it I just find it strange I didn't receive it that way that he was difficult because he was a man I just kind of took that as he's difficult and he's a man but I guess there's both ways I didn't get too much from him not that men are difficult in general just that that's the class he's being right now be difficult man be difficult she's describing it like it's an archetype of the difficult man yeah and I think drinker's probably right you could be like the bitchy woman or something like that fine be straight if you actually came back with that you're being the bitchy bitch you dirty bitch you dumb slut finish us there like oh guys please don't fight it shit that escalated quickly captain marvel arrives to tell him off well yeah should have been told police in him or something you have the sort of it's bouncing between them all the camera spins around them as they're all like having a chat I'm just thinking of myself like man like if you just done this more if these characters knew each other better it's just everything was so slapdash even in just the first film the fact that Poe got resurrected like I said it's just like that's clearly just not enough planning Poe got resurrected? Poe was supposed to have died in his crash onto Jakku but they liked him so much that they kept well he asked for it didn't he I think the quote is something along the lines of he was dying in all of his films recently and so he was like JJ could you bring me back and he was like Poe's pretty cool alright let's do it and then he got to be in the last Jedi and then this one he's like a full-on character now we look back and we're like why the hell was it he's like barely in TFA it's like yeah because he was supposed to live your body will survive but your spirit will be crushed and re-perfect which is it's funny because you have all that shit in TLJ where he's like completely chastised for doing the right thing and then this film opens he saves Chewy, he saves Fear that he saves himself obviously add the falcon and the information the first thing Ray says is you fucked up he's like and I'm like listen I don't need another bitch on my case alright you being a bitchy woman yeah and yeah so they they then get the announcement that they need to get to Exegol because the Emperor's there he has a fleet this is from this by everyone's sad face because he says 16 hours by the way until the attack begins so was Palpatine going to actually assault the galaxy whether or not Ray turned up I guess why wait we just need an arbitrary time limit to give them a sense of urgency JJ is obsessed with the ticking clock can we just point out how easily everyone accepts that he's back oh yeah Dark Force magic cloning of course is back do you think some of them really said this is really bull crap of course it's not alive like someone should have been saying like that's a hard thing to swallow yeah that would be like no if we get a broadcast saying like Hitler's been resurrecting well the Nazis had dark science yeah just everyone kind of rose their eyes like oh like this could be worse I was confused by another thing didn't they say they didn't even know that anything of this shit was true but then they all say it's like oh Palpatine oh no it's like Palpatine is they all thought that Force was a myth oh yeah Palpatine's back I guess Palpatine's not a myth the Empire wasn't a myth Luke was the guy who stopped them how I don't know in 30 years how do people forget that they'd be like if today someone's like Operation Desert Storm what was that but yeah they're all very comfortable in accepting the Palpatine's back they know who he is all these influences they're like but you still don't even believe necessarily that Luke existed it's like this is what you have to do to get things moving as quickly as possible in this movie because you've got so much to try and cover in such a short space of time you've just got to have people be like oh yeah cool right that's the thing that's happening now off we go I got a message from someone on discord here he told me he said not caught up with the stream rags but when Luke at Lando were looking for Palpatine why didn't Anakin the friendly force ghost simply tell them where his McMuffin was oh so many questions especially because we established in the movie that Anakin can talk to Ray oh that blasts it wide open doesn't it cause that's major that's a good point that's a very very good point you see that's the thing this film is densely packed but think of all this like that think of what you've done force ghost wise is it said in the movie that is it in the actual movie that it's Darth Vader's way finder no that is that is the thing that's been cut but I doubt he cuts it for that reason like he probably is probably just a save time he cut something because it didn't make sense besides we can still argue there's no way Vader didn't know about the Emperor's McMuffin to the right of his throne room right he must have known about that one I think absolutely he did why would why would we assume he know about that why wouldn't he well technically he was he's the destruction of the death star before Palpatine yeah he was he was second in command he knows fucking everything doesn't he but it's not I don't think it was a room specifically created to house that thing it was just the Emperor put it there presumably so there wouldn't have been any reason for him to tell there's no reason why he wouldn't know what's in there besides he's a force ghost doesn't he have the ability to just ghost cam everywhere ghost cam it's like a ghost time on any one sci-fi ghost cam so also right well wait sorry just just one one clarification that it is confirmed by the visual novel quote-unquote so canon according to disney that it was vaders right the rebels seem very like easy to accept what this spy is saying is the truth like what if this was a misdirect that the you know first order like what if just hypothetically say that it was all untrue but they accept it so easily that they go on this wild goose chase looking for MacGuffins right that and while they're looking for it they don't really exist then then Palpatine just attacks like you know in one hour instead of the sixties or whatever first of all your guys accept it easier than the audience does yeah you get the greatest force user on the good guys team with the greatest pilot with the betraying storm trooper with their translator with one of the the only remaining hero of the OT that's not layer I guess all in one specific position this like seems like a really good way to capture or kill all of you and then later on everyone else in the resistance will just be here cutting the grass forest planet where we are they also get everybody to turn up at hexagall what about if hexagall is just a nuke that's all it was blows up yeah palpatine has literally used the trap thing before so it's very weird that they would just show up he's kind of famous for using traps against you you should be ready for this as a possibility maybe they don't know because it was all a myth maybe is all a myth oh yeah that's right the transfer of information in the universe is such that in 30 years time the galaxy forgets galaxy changing events well do you see how long they have to like plug something into download like a two line piece of like text like imagine having to chronicle the entire war against the empire send me the send me the data no no no I'll just tell you listen it's like I'm gonna need to I'll hose the width of the channel tunnel to download this data apparently it's not called a visual novel and someone's upset that I've referred to it that way I don't know what it's called visual dictionary I don't fucking know I don't care it's just the stars if you wrote that comment a visual novel is like phoenix ride is a visual novel a graphic novel is like watchmen or something it was a book with a picture at it that said look this is Darth Vader's they had words and white circles with arrows pointing to who says them I don't know yeah imagine being the people who have to write the books around these movies you're like oh my god and then knowing that whatever they write is gonna be easily disregarded and ignored by the people making the movies like that person who had the stormtrooper with the jetpack in the comic it's like that was just ignored there's some I was just thinking by the way right so the whole reason Ray brings up the Wayfinders in Hill Book is because of the fact that these things are supposed to get you quote unquote it's like oh the spy is like we gotta get to Exegol she's like hey I know how it's through these things and it's like did Luke tell anybody about this that there was half a mission completed where you were trying to discover the Sith's super secret and you just gave up did anyone know about this you'd think that would be important information that Luke would let them know Palpatine was alive maybe I should tell I don't know did he know or was he just chasing ghosts like did he I don't know I thought they were looking for Palpatine I thought that was the whole thing I don't know I think they were just looking for Exegol yeah yeah I think that's what they were asking why would that have been something they just give up on if you knew that Palpatine was alive that is like holy crap why didn't you tell anyone so hopefully you did but like why wouldn't you tell anybody about Exegol you just put it in his diary and hope that someone would find it one day like really why is Lando even involved in this like what steak does he have in the Sith why would Luke want to find it Lando has no role in this film thank god they didn't ruin him not a bit he's kinda like Hux with the plot device thing he's just there to expose it something they didn't ruin Lando Han Solo's movie yeah they ruined him in Solo yeah he's a droid he's gonna help that one chick whose name we all remember with the big hair he's gonna help her find where she's from what is her name unironically none of us can remember because she's died on interest I remember Zory Bliss I don't remember the other girl anyone I don't know that was cut from the movie Moonbark is in Wayray or something her name is Wakanda also you say the daughter thing is like yeah that was in leaks they didn't make it to the movie so that's no longer that dude well they just have this weird scene right at the end where they're like it's really awkward yeah I don't know well we'll find out together and then it just cuts they came across because they cut the daughter stuff yeah well the leaks were saying that once Lando had his daughter kidnapped he just stayed on the planet and gave up he didn't go after trying to find his daughter at all thank goodness it was cut because yeah if that was the case that's just ruined Lando as well remember the like insane damage it was dealt to the falcon in order to do the thing it did I like how it's just repaired a seed later yeah it's fixed he said it was on fire he said all of it is on fire and they show all the falcon being on fire it's like a it's like a video game as long as it has one hit point left you can fix it all the way back up to new it's just like you see someone hitting it with a spanner and like they're the hell far on it it's like a battlefield torch I'm using fire to fix it while it's on fire it makes sense the annoying thing is it is supposed to be canon that fixing things date takes time especially with the falcon there's a whole movie where the falcon is just on the fritz and not working with the empire strikes back you can fix it properly a couple of minutes is done there are like 1,500 points to make and talk about there's going to be a good chance that we'll repeat each other at some point it's impossible to collect all of it yeah man next up is the wonderful seed that I think we all would have laughed at at least in our heads where rose is like nah conkub nah thank god stay here it's such a blatant move just like yeah I'm busy with looking at stuff and things you go ahead and he taps her on the shoulder alright she's been friendzoned by fin fin was he's processed everything that happened is like dude he killed all the resistance you're kind of a psychopath like just saying it was all for you fin my love in a movie filled with mistakes that is possibly one of the best decisions that JJ made I love it it's classic people were really upset about that that like TLJ, Jenny Nicholson was like she put out a tweet saying like what the hell did Kelly Marie Tran do to JJ to like deserve this turns out she's just a shitty character that's all it wasn't the actor it was the character the character was garbage I think I talked to rags about this the other day but like the space in this movie how do you shove another character in there on like the main line adventure what is she gonna do stand around actually no no I have the best use for ray that they could have done right sorry not best use for ray best use for rose have her go along with them but have her be the one who was captured by the first door instead of chewing then have her legitimately die like hey that would have been great okay we would have liked that but I don't know it would have caused conflict for ray and it would have all gone oh no it would have worked because it would have been like it would have actually okay that would have happened within the first act if you will and I would have just that's probably the second act but I still would have been like wow he fucking killed her I would have been like wow he killed her yeah well done no I mean I know it would still be looked at as like disrespecting the character or whatever I think it would be funny yeah okay I'm okay with that go for it is it disrespectful to kill a character to motivate other characters if you then I'm not saying it would give them a send off I'm saying they would find a disrespect wow you brought her in just to kill her why do you hate her so much say the same thing about Luke I know right it doesn't work that way though it's only with their characters I like that before they leave Ray hugs Leia and cries yeah they have such an on-screen relationship all they have is payoffs like they don't have development they just have emotional payoffs you're great you're great can we also mention that Ray gave up the lightsaber it's like no look I'm not really like just take the lightsaber back okay it's over and then aren't you fucking noble you piece of shit don't you need that to fight though Leia Leia just like take this she's like yeah I'll take it what was the point of giving it up they backtrack they backtrack on so many like anything anything happens it's like no balls in this movie bait and switch constantly see if you're getting mind white and then boom he's back up and running again yeah he's not dead Kylo dying he's not dead Ray dying he's not dead well just kidding actually he is Palpatine's Palpatine's dead right no he's not dead oh he's dead again also by the way both Kylo and Palpatine they do a double take on us it actually is unclear as to where he gets his helmet repaired because he gets it repaired and then he's in a transport ship heading to his destroyer so it's like I don't know where he came from but he did that the helmet planet the Sith he uses his Sith points they're like V bucks so why is it like actual monkeys that are repairing his helmet like is that the best you could find I mean he did a pretty good job he reassembled that thing it was a weird thing as well because it's glowing red as if it's still molten and like he's got it on his head he takes off he's got all these scorch marks it's red for the rest of the movie though yeah I don't know it's super hot it's hot like it's red glue teen angst it's just red glue so I like it when people talk about how at least the sequel trilogy doesn't have the terrible dialogue of the prequels when we had the stupid salt line from TLJ and obviously the unfindable comment there's other things I'm not going to say that it's all a disaster one of the lines that really stood to me was horrible I can't quote it but it's when that new bounty hunter he said something to like the line was just so poorly constructed I don't believe that you believe or something yeah so when the nights are walking down the corridor obviously we all knew who they were because there's so many memes about how they've been forgotten by Ryan and JJ struggling to make them meaningful but obviously general audiences will literally be like who the fuck are these guys and so they have two stormtroopers go hey nights are red cool oh yeah and they really are they like I think that's a candidate for some of the stupidest crappiest dialogue in like the entire saga it's so blatant like what the fuck are you doing you can't just have characters be like they are the nights of red look at camera everything has to be stated explicitly like when huck shoots the stormtroopers and then he steps forward and he like I'm the spy like no shoot sure look they didn't even go so far as to have like Poe or Finn or anyone saying wait you're the spy that would have been better I am the spy I am going to assist your escape come with me please I like how he does the whole he's like shoot me in the leg and he's like I don't care if you win he said shoot me in the arm he said shoot me in the arm and then Finn shoots him in the leg wait hang on I'm not actually 100% on board with that statement because the fact huck's has caused a lot of shit for their team yes yes he's made a good decision now but that doesn't mean you can't punch him in the face huck's is the one who ordered star killer base to open fire huck's nearly huck's ordered the execution for Finn and Rose they were just lucky that well how does that factor into the whole I'm a spy thing the only way you can justify it is if he became a spy after TLJ he doesn't care if they win he cares if Kylo loose that doesn't make any fucking sense he's hated Kylo for a while I agree with that he decided to become a spy after Kylo forced throwing him around in the last Jedi I think that's justifiable I've seen where Kylo Ren is lying unconscious on the floor and you see huck standing over him and he's reaching for his blaster and then Kylo wakes up and says he was harboring thoughts of murdering him even in the last Jedi that's not my issue with it my issue is becoming a full on spy that's some crazy jumping if you want to get Kylo killed if he wants to kill Kylo why would he try and undermine the first order but remember his first clue is his first clue is go to Exegol because the emperor is hiding there with an army he destroys what the fuck does that have to do with Kylo what are you trying to achieve I want you to stop the emperor so that you can kill Kylo I guess just hire a bounty hunter there's easier ways there's a lot easier ways the irony by the way that Hux changes teams to kill Kylo that Kylo changes teams at the end of the film he's like god damn it Hux dies anyway Hux is pathetic you go from the first film but he's kind of like talking light a little more embarrassing, a little younger he still needs to experience stuff the second film is a clown, the third film is a clown he gets executed look at these different types of clown in every film he was over the top rage just psycho in the first one he couldn't take seriously there was no menace or fear you can't be scared of Hitler what are they about this is the thing when you hire really young actors to play roles like this there's a reason you need old British men you have to do it you do that's my general pride you're definitely evil not the first order shall rule the galaxy okay, alright, sit down yeah dialogue was fucking garbage at that moment there's a couple of examples in the film and I just find it amusing it comes across as desperate to me now it's like, JJ, how do we explain these are the knights of Wren have a character say it, fuck it, let's move on I think a lot of this comes down to we have to go to print in two weeks or something and we've got no time to come up with anything else fuck it, just putting a bit of dialogue so for clarification someone just said who is the most inconsistent character though we're going to go through the film and then we'll decide who the most inconsistent character is but obviously if the most of the cast a god by then if anyone wants to leave we'll just have them sort of submit their vote before they leave and then we can all try and discuss it I guess so then we have the scene one of first-order directors and he's like, so I got this offer from a creepy old man on some island on a planet about like a thousand ships and I like the first thing the other guy says is like, well they're a bunch of soothsayers and it's like, okay but they do have a thousand Star Destroyers they may be weird but you know and like Richard E. Grant's character says that he's like, they have an army it can fucking bolster us like crazy and then he goes, okay and I felt that that was a stupid question but the follow-up one isn't he says, what does he want in return which is like, ooh Kaila just kills him why the fuck did you do that that's a really valid question it's like you're just going to give us this hit for free out of a kind of fear like why are they even there if you're not going to listen to their questions what's the point of them you said words death now death now hey, no, no, oh no you're great, whatever you're doing is fine well do you think JJ got to that point in the script and he's like fuck I can't actually think up for an explanation for this I think it's a running theme I think it's a running theme for the whole series like that doesn't make sense kill him quick before he keeps asking questions and infects us all was it like yeah in Batwoman is that Mary we asked questions so while they were all like yes Mary, good question she's ignored most of the time I miss her it's coming back, we'll get it back I need it it's weird jumping from Batwoman to something just as bad if not worse more terrible that's where we're at with this so Kaila's plan is he is going to I think he says I'm going to find the scavenger while you guys consolidate power I don't really care the point is that he's got no plot I'm going to find the scavenger he's got nothing to work with until he engages at a Skype call that's what sets him on his plot and it's just as bad as the leaks said it was is this when he pulls the necklace off you can analyse it it works when you do forced phone calls you can do things like transfer physical objects across thousands of kilometres it's almost like it's incidental that this can happen which I was like that's certainly really really weird but it wasn't like we have to totally abandon ship and it's a disaster but they take that and they bring it to the next step I can now choose what I can and cannot interact with to where I could just yank things from a galaxy away it would have been so weird it would have been so easy to retcon as well like those drops of water that they were just residue parts of the vision that eventually faded away they were just coincidental instead of doubling down and transporting matter across light years through the force to clarify Ryan didn't approve of this movie at all the idea that he set up what happens in this movie with his movie is like I think that's a stretch from my perspective it seems to be that it sets up the dice are possible when Luke gives it to Leia instead of that being like what the fuck you can move objects it's like no we did say before with water so it's fine but then it also shows that they disappear after a certain amount of time that to me is pretty much fine I'm actually fine with like you can sort of make a picture image of a thing it's like okay there's probably some application for that it's literally teleport shit like wow that's amazing like you could just yank it from a distance why didn't you just steal why didn't they just steal each other's little wayfinder devices why didn't you just grab her what are the limits can you grab her lightsaber can you grab her like clothing does it just come off if he pulls it through what happens he's just left standing there in the middle of the town or like he grabs her hand and like it just detaches from her body or something because he's pulled it off at least with the water droplets you're like it's very small it's very subtle it's just like a remnant of a connection it's almost it's not something you choose to do it's just sort of like leftovers that are coincidental and I want to clarify as well this power is just like imagine they're at the base with every good guy and Kylo has the call with it she pulls him through and he's just in the base like oh everyone just got a gun don't pile him down how contrived and convenient is it that she happens to have a necklace on for Kylo to grab and pull off if she didn't have that necklace on he never would have been able to figure out where they were yeah I was gonna say how much information can you really get from it's intense just before we get to that though I wanted to say this festival C3PO announces that it happens once every 42 years why why does JJ want this to be the case why would you make it so that you force contrivances it you don't need to isn't it 42 years since 42 years since a new heart I mean that's sweet but uh it's still retarded and I wouldn't like to take this point say something positive about the film I know I know let us once this is the one point in the film that I actually laughed it was when C3PO says that about the the the festival right and then they all look at him and then there's that pause and then he looks behind him and I thought that was funny oh yeah when he looks behind him I thought it was funny I guess this is what will announce it you know you guys are welcome to agree or disagree he was my favorite thing about the movie he was my favorite as well C3PO was unironically the best part an ironic part of the movie isn't that depressing it's the best part of the Star Wars movie C3PO was actually my favorite part of this movie he had some funny lines in the tunnel when Poe is calling out you know for everybody to see if they're okay he says you know you didn't call my name sir but I'm okay his lines were very funny yeah in the chase excellent work sir terrible work sir what's great about that is that it's actually a line that suits his character that's exactly something C3PO would say but it's in the right situation with the right timing that it's funny and it's got good irony to it and stuff and so it works you know what else I like the fact that they established that they're gonna have to essentially kill him to get the next portion of the plot going and he's like this is terrible but this is the thing I liked in the mess they ask him you know like is this not their best shot like statistically which is something that he's always rambling on about so the idea that they're appealing to his interest in statistically choosing the best choice and that leaves him with the position of having to sacrifice himself I was like that's pretty cool yeah that is great I think he's really consistent with his character why is C3PO the best thing about this movie? we should have been doing like polls for the most consistent character and no one would have got it no one would have guessed C3PO this whole time we'd just be guessing but people want in the movie I would have just been guessing inanimate objects like that door over there the thing that's the most I think you can really call that a character I think you can the door? well is the theme that anyone could be a character? it depends on how you identify if the door said it's a Skywalker then door what is your last name? Skywalker the door probably has more personality than Ray to be fair so it could be the main character the door is like not only have I closed myself off from the force but I also closed away off from the kitchen so yeah onto the necklace then the ridiculous the fact that the rat appears would even put a necklace on any of our characters ugly child walks up to Ray and gives her a necklace so one of our characters gets a necklace put on them that seems unlikely but it happens it happens to be the one person who enters regularly into Skype calls the villain and he also has developed enough of this ability to be able to pull things off people we're already into several degrees of contrivance that this necklace is distinctive enough that it provides them exact coordinates to what point of the planet they're at just immediately and she panics from the moment he grabs it to the point where she's like Kylo Ren is on the way and he turns up like five minutes later okay so we're already first order patrols oh yeah they turn up like 30 seconds from that moment but he turns up a little later I don't think the question of what they were doing there in the first place but they just hang around they throw away lines throughout this whole movie and they're terrible Poe is like watch out for first order patrols they like to sort of be around these sorts of things and he's like what the fuck why why would they be here and so like she panics everyone but being like Kylo is on the way and they start running and the music starts up and they turn a corner and there's this one first order trooper that's like hey and then we get to see how effective that armor is once again it goes right through it that's crazy someone gets murdered people try and justify it oh sorry I'm going off on the armor people try and justify that the armor disperses a blaster shot so they get knocked out instead of dying and if that's the case it is the most retarded armor in the world because that means a shot in the shoulder will knock them out whereas if it was not doing this they could keep fighting and they just have an injury on the shoulder at that point you just don't wear the armor if it knocks you out you're going to be killed anyway I'll just wear the helmet and the breastplate and the greaves and we're good because the knocked out soldier is so useful I was going to say if you're on a one on one fight they shoot you in the foot you get knocked out they execute you that's why I'm only wearing the three bits I just protect the important parts I don't get shot in the toe I guess I'm just incapacitated now so yeah I just thought it was crazy you got this friendly festival where they all celebrate and send each other gifts a guy gets his fucking brain skewered by an arrow and everyone's like what the fuck my first force parties on that planet are wild it pulled me out so hard nobody like what the the festival teaches us that death is a natural part of life yay these children in the background catabolizing one of their own yay you will provide sustenance for those of us who have survived yay turns out it was Lando Calrissian oh my god he's an archer how convenient and so just to get you guys all of the framing you need he says that Leia contacted him to say they were on the way so he looked for them and he found them through seeing Chewie because Chewie's obviously pretty noticeable why didn't Leia just tell them that's the first thing I was going to say is why the hell didn't Leia tell them to meet him that makes no sense it said that Leia told them of a contact she has on Posanna so apparently that was in the film or at least we can assume it might have been and they cut that I guess they cut it to make it look more realistic that they didn't immediately go to him and that they explored hang on they weren't looking for Lando I'll tell you what they were looking for because I really wanted to know if you pay attention to the scene Pos says I'm going to go talk to the locals he's going to go talk to the locals about the potential of finding McMuffin number 3 that leads to McMuffin number 2 that Luke couldn't find just going to go up to the locals and be like hey do you know we're a knife a knife we're looking for an ancient Sith assassin knife we don't know what it looks like it's like 10 credits do they know if they're looking for the knife at this point or they're looking for the holocron yeah I think they think they're looking for the holocron they're just looking yeah because they find the knife because she senses it in the dirt and she pulls it out of the dirt such a headache because that's just she senses the sithness on the knife she gets down with the sithness she senses the n-word on the knife yeah well that was the knife that killed her parents as well wasn't it yeah I think that might leave some residue force feelings whatever she gets it from everything this has forced moments with everything but the mere existence of the knife is stupid beyond belief but we'll get there I liked Chewie and Lando hugging there I said it yeah it was nice it's so superficial that I'm just like it's nice that we got something that makes sense and that we expect to see happen logically I like that people would be like oh my god you just want a fan to see this and I'm like stop saying that these people care about each other they're supposed to hug each other what the fuck yeah so he just dumps exposition on them completely he's like to get the holocron you need to get D'arthucci's knife D'arthucci had a knife D'arthucci was the last thing that is connected to this holocron his ship is on some ridge over there good luck and his ship is completely intact hasn't been stripped for parts or stolen and it wouldn't they fix it in about a minute or two Po does in my town if you leave the car unattended for like an hour it will be up on the bridge it's not even locked they just walk in it's like oh alright on this episode of bait ship you really need to fix it though don't just turn everything on just fuck off yeah like it's pretty much ready to go yeah fixing is a generous way to describe their fleet yeah they just take time it's everything it's ready to go I was gonna say with the locals that's too stupid like oh no they just don't know about space travel so hang on we have skipped the chase though before they get to the ship I was gonna do that I can roll it back so while they're talking to Lando Kylo arrives like that's how quick it was and they're like uh oh and so they immediately want to get to us the speeders in order to get to the ticking clock JJ's constantly has to generate like there was this thing that really interested me it's gonna be toward the end of my TFA series right so when they had the finale of TFA there was no ticking clock and he said that that was like a problem because it's no tension really like it's just they're trying to destroy the base but there's nothing at risk there's no we need to do this within 10 minutes or X happens and so they had to make it so the first order we're aiming at the base and if you remember how is it that they find yeah yeah in TFA how do they find the base how do the how do the first order find the good guys base in TFA do any of you remember it's a throwaway line no it's Snokes with uh Hux tells Snoke Kylo's having a meeting with Snoke and Hux walks in just says our informants have found their base oh you know it's funny how in a new hope they had causality because she's creating a new hope it's cause and fact it's cause and fact I love it great in this in those films that's what I mean JJ was like right we need some instant action ticking clock because he can't do anything without what it's so yeah we get it in this as well imagine they were like why does JJ fall on like several very simple but not always effective like storytelling tropes oh ticking clock mystery box good storytelling how would you how would you know he's an actual director who have you ever directed a movie how would you know base also directed a lot of movies well imagine the scene runs as being like all right it's over there grab a speeder they do and they just head over there casually having a discussion they get to the ship I was just thinking myself like I prefer that they could discuss things they could have a reason to explore like why are they here what's the plan who are they we could finally have a discussion instead of a fucking action scene well and I imagine if there was some kind of complex puzzle that they had to unravel when they got there and it required a bit of thought and a bit of imagination then again it doesn't have to be fast paced but there's something that they have to do in order to get this dagger like it actually requires a bit of work and thought but in this it's just like they literally fall into it circumstances yeah circumstantial bull crap leads them about the number of coincidence like they blend if they didn't land in the quicksand well first of all if they did if the speeders didn't get destroyed they wouldn't land in the quicksand they didn't land in the quicksand they wouldn't end up in the tunnels they didn't end up in the tunnels they wouldn't have found a knife and it's just like well yeah the string of convenience in that scene is absurd because yeah the fact it's very convenient that this festival happens every 42 years is there it's pretty convenient that they get found straight away it's pretty convenient that they land in quicksand that takes them directly to a place that shows us force healing and the fucking dagger and it's pretty convenient that the ship from which raised parents were taken was also like 10 meters away how convenient this is the genius though of JD's writing in that he moves you on so quickly from scene to scene that you don't have time yeah and that's his strategy it's like if I just keep it moving quickly enough people won't have time to think about how stupid this is I think it's cinematic gish galloping yeah I think I was talking to friggy about this but the one in a million comment I was thinking about it just the idea alone that it was one in a million in the cinema and they carried on talking they said something else that was stupid and I was like wait hang up wait why was it one in a million no it isn't how do you fuck it up do you realize that one in a million thing is completely contradicted at the end of the movie did you guys any guys pick this out on Endor on Endor the Ewoks are looking up and you see two large star destroyers and one of them was just hold on maneuvered it is in the air it's the exact same shot with the like shrapnel flying behind it and all these things hold on maneuvered against a star destroyer so it's not one in a million I wondered what that was when I first saw it that's what I thought but I wasn't sure it was the hold on maneuver it's canonized once again but also whether or not they did it again the fact that if it was a one in a million shot why was Huck so freaked out about her doing that maneuver why was he like oh shit jesus christ get us out of here she's throwing her life away that's a one in a million shot she'll never make it no way bullshit get out of here is this how desperate the rebellion is yeah like this is I I just got some kind of seizure here I can't deal with it they're so incompetent also we have lost Jay he said he was he's too tismed to stay awake I'm afraid oh no we will carry on we did get to kick him everyone's very happy about that hooray we did it what a massive they flying out guys they fly now sorry there's a couple there's also something else profoundly done with the fight scene did anyone notice what the stormtroopers were actually riding on when they were trying to chase them down they were like they were like they have technology for things that hover around everywhere but let's just retrogress and put something on wheels here's a weird question if they flew there right if they flew there why would they chase after them on ground well they're apparently stationed there these people were stationed here for whatever reason and so these things that are on wheels when they've had speeders for however many years and sellers are on wheels is because one of them is on wheels that they get destroyed Finn throws a grappling hook yeah yeah how come the shield didn't deflect that because remember they have they have shields they have shields at the front of them they have shields now don't because shields don't work in atmosphere remember oh no don't oh we gotta get to that no we've been doing this for like three hours we've still only gotten through about like 40% of the issues that's only the ones that we found it's so bad I was gonna highlight by the way picture Luke and Lando they turn up to Darth Uchi's ship they ignore Dio by the way they don't pick him up, they don't do anything with him even though that would have all the fucking answers they need sorry I just realised Dio has the literal readouts for Exegol you don't even need a McMuffin at that point I just love that they get in the ship and they look around for two seconds and they're like nah there's no obvious I was supposed to be highlighting something else but I just stumbled on that by accident but they're like what could possibly have happened to Darth Uchi this is like well there's this big black pit over here like quite close it's like quicksad what if he fell in there and it's like nah no that couldn't happen wouldn't look of sense the Sith dagger as well no oh my goodness that's all when they're getting chased they barely get hit but the last jet pack trooper hits both of his rockets into the ventral of his speeders and crashes both of them and no one dies it's amazing when they're singing the quicksad my honest reaction when they're singing the quicksad is like oh this is going to be easy they can levitate and lift everyone else out exactly exactly they just all fly away it was sort of obvious I was waiting for it to happen when they sing I'm like what one of the odds that they fell on the quicksad by the way there was this little tiny patch of quicksand if they had gone slightly to the left at the start of their drive they would have totally gone past the clue the other thing when I raised this in my own video was like okay so there's the quicksand and then there's a tunnel underneath the sand but they fall through the sand into the tunnel how does it not collapse and if there's something holding the tunnel up then how can they fall through it none of it makes any sense that doesn't make any sense at all it's just unending it's like what is going on I'm sorry I'm still reconciling I thought of it before we've got all this MacGuffin nonsense chasing all these different things around all the different places to finally get to Exegol and Uchi just has a droid with all the information on it in his ship it's all this extensive shit to get to this information and yet it's also it's like me putting a billion passwords but then also having a notepad next to my computer not only that it's a notepad that wants to help you it was abused do you remember that it's been hated to whatever like man you have a really this Sith assassin has a really friendly and sympathetic robot companion thing that's weird they plug that robot into the thing at the end what does that do because I missed it it gave them a technical readout of Exegol I told them where it was what is in the surrounding area because they say that there's solar winds like electrical storms and the space cancer and Dio that's what I mean why would it have that information because JJ doesn't know how to write properly if you remember Rey takes the McMuffin to Arc2 she ditches them she doesn't tell them anything she just leaves they have nothing they go home empty handed their plot was useless but then they plug in Dio they're like oh it has all the answers we need woohoo it is pathetic writing you didn't even try if they had honestly just talked to Dio like you had C3P go hey what information do you have on you and he goes I know where Exegol is it's like right let's go home guys honestly like really when you think about it alright this guy has information we find his own personal droid you'd think their first idea would be maybe we should check what's in this droid what information it has let's just you know figure that but they know they completely ignore it but then suddenly that it has an information you're right and I know that if I'm being 100% fair right all Dio says is where the place is and what the dangers are but you need a McMuffin to get through it safely I just think that's bullshit that's all and Dio as a Sith robot he could translate Sith so you wouldn't have even needed to wipe C3P oh my god this was another thing there's no there's no reason to assume you wouldn't be able to do that yeah but it's the fact that like okay we've got this we need to translate it oh C3P can do it but he needs to be reprogrammed so now we go to is there any reason why C3P was programmed not to be able to read Sith because Anakin made him he can read it he just can't translate it for them I think that you could validate that you could validate that he couldn't read Sith that's like the one language that is forbidden to even read but they have it that he can read it and translate it which means he can surely point on a map right and is there any why don't they just say indirectly tell us what it means change the words embellish it a little bit why don't you just kill it just delete his memories basically get Luke's force ghost tell him to do it it's terrible it's just terrible and the question will eventually come fellas and I don't know if you're going to be answering it one way or the other but is it better or worse than TLJ oh I don't know at this point I don't know that's the thing I want to say it's better mostly because of the intent behind it yeah it was almost like it's like a terrible terrible bandaid you know it's like a sticky hairy bad it's like a really shitty bandaid it's already been sticky anymore there's at least kind of a reason why it's so terrible and everything we stacked against it I can imagine it as holy shit like I can imagine it as you've lost your leg like you stepped on a landmine and blew your leg off and so your money pours petrol on it and sets them on fire and cauterize the wounds and then you just get engulfed in flames and it's like I'm helping right it's like well your heart's in the right place and you're just like kill me please just kill me yeah I think with The Last Jedi that was like a deliberate fuck you to like the entire fan base it seems like I love it yeah well at least with this this was like some kind of attempt to produce something halfway decent and I enjoyed it more I did say I enjoyed watching it way more than The Last Jedi there's a higher frequency of issues the degree of these issues is the tough part I think it's a bit worse because of the frequency of issues and that if you even divorce it from previous styles everything I find that there's less to enjoy they were I feel there was more spectacle I could make it more enjoyable I'm not sure I agree with that actually because so Me and Rags kind of talking about this right you know how the audience score is actually beating out TLJ, it's almost like double TLJ's audience score and we were trying to think of why that might be and one of the theories I actually do think is that this does come across to be as more of an audience pleasing movie compared to TLJ TLJ has a lot of moments that is just slow and calm and people are just talking to each other boom boom boom action flying all these quippy lines comedy boom boom boom and you're just like oh yeah this definitely appeals to normies in a way that TLJ would not cause at least the thing is with Rise of Skywalker there's plenty of action plenty of cool shots plenty of ooze and awe moments I mean this is the kind of stuff that at least shit was happening they've really they've toned down the whole identity politics thing which was quite a big component of the last Jedi and that is something that I was very grateful for because honestly I was just gritting my teeth through half of that movie like fucking hell this is insufferable but at least here it is it's just offensively bad oh yeah sorry dust bullshit welcome hi can we talk about the skimmer real quick can we talk about the what the skimmer is that the water skimmer we're going through we're not there yet your time will come I'll give you context right we're going through chronologically we're at three and a half hours in real time we're at half an hour in movie time okay cool and I thought it would be to be honest we're doing okay and I think we can speed up eventually because we've covered a lot ahead of time if you know what I mean as we go so we can a lot of issues we just highlight and move on sort of thing kind of amazing I noticed while you guys while we were looking over the leaks that one time and we went through just only one part like we didn't realize there were three parts to the leaks we went through one page we thought that one page was the yeah we thought part one then I realized oh my god this movie is running at breakneck fucking speed at the point where it's all like oh wow I feel like we were at part one yeah man this movie is dense shit is happening so right you highlighted the joke where he's like you didn't call my name but I'm okay I liked it too but what about the joke like genuinely asking where Ray lights up the place the lightsaber and then Poe turns on his torch and he's like oh man if anything the torch would work but so here's the thing the lightsaber you guys know Lindy beige right yeah yeah all right so Lindy beige has a great video it's old but it's a great video about using torches at night torches like oh sorry like a not electric torch like an actual torch we're talking charcoal on a stick torch so rags you upset me you know what how do I hold you on I have a whole video on torches as well oh well I didn't want to I feel neglected I don't want to hurt you it's just the one I think about it's where I first learned about it he did do it first but the point is like if you were in a cavern you wouldn't want to use a lightsaber as a light because if you hold that up to your face it's going to blind you and it's not going to actually help you out but a flashlight it directs the light at things in the distance so if anything yeah so if anything Ray should be like wincing at the light and Poe should be like ha ha see I could see it at a distance it feels awkward to me like you're in this crowded space and someone's just got this skin melting weapon right next to you I'm just like maybe maybe don't yeah I'd be like listen Ray I know you mean well but like man turn off just put it away god damn it it's making me really nervous do you guys remember how Gucci's car like and it's got like so you know like a Volkswagen yeah yeah it's got a sith icon on it it looks like Hitler's staff car yeah he's got the sith made vehicles that had like icons on it apparently I've never seen this before but yeah that's a thing they've maybe got a whole line of merchandise and so we're supposed to believe that he sank through the black sludge sand stuff in his car he got out of the car walked forward then got eaten by the snake thing but he didn't even get eaten by it because he's in town I thought he just starved to death I thought they were implying that he was the one that hurt the worm no he didn't get chewed up or anything all of his skeleton was there maybe it pooped it out in order because this just a name Star Wars no seriously if it pooped him out the bones wouldn't be arrayed in because he would have been guy-tested and so that was a natural death so he just sort of gave up why didn't he try anything to be fair getting eaten by a wild animal is sort of a natural death I had to I had assumed that he did hurt the worm and then maybe he suffered an injury and died the thing about that is because Lando and Luke actually thinking about it that wound looked partially fresh it's not like it would be 10 years old would it so hang on a minute when his bones bleached like how would he get to that point in 10 years is that possible what's the decomposition 10 years and it depends I had to look this up for my book it depends decomposition can happen really hard a fast if you're exposed to the elements like out in the war thing but if you're in a cool dry place it can almost mummify you that's what I was figuring because he's in a cave it's unlikely he would be bones in 10 maybe he's going bones slow that's plus one for the digestion theory yeah the snake web figure raged the bones afterwards he was like yeah but you know the other problem with this though because if he's like starved to death that is implying that it is almost impossible to get out of these caves a Sith warrior of his caliber couldn't just dig himself out of a hole I don't understand it I don't understand it at all I guess he couldn't contact the web just knocks open the wall and it opens up and they're free seemingly by accident the web is like bye thanks for healing me I understand how this concept works my animal brain is like oh you force healed me I'm going to let you go now instead of devouring you again it's so contrived the way they sort of imply that the thing is like hey heal me question mark it's like I don't know what to tell you if you don't not this strange creature is trying to touch my wounds get it off kill it kill it eat it it's probably going to heal me with magic it's like they're trying to it's like trying to imply there's something immoral about defending yourself against a vicious animal it's ready to kill you you can't kill it back don't kill it that wouldn't be the right thing to do don't tell chewy but this that wouldn't be the right thing to do chewy just sweating when they say that you wouldn't do that kill the wild animals that's fucked up bye this is our setup for the force healing that gets you know I'm to address it I'm to address it so force healing is in like expanded star wars stuff okay expanded star wars universe and in video games but it's never been in the movies and I feel that's for I hoped that it was intentional because having the ability to heal can stuff up so many things narratively so it needs to be employed with great care and like when you see healing done in fantasy and stuff like that there's a lot of things rules built around it whether it costs a lot it's very restrictive only a few people can do it it's really difficult to do it takes ages of time to learn how to do it and train and figure it out it is like healing has massive implications okay and so honestly with all the ways it can be used to stuff up any type or sense of urgency or engagement because with healing well they're injured now okay yeah we got a dealer in the party guys just fucking go for it man exactly so when you put healing into a story it destroys so much kind of tension because they can just heal themselves and so they would have been smarter to just keep it out and they were smart to keep it out to this point because in star wars like with the expanded stuff they're implying that healing was done in the old republic in the video games even like the video games that were based around the same time period of the original trilogy and stuff you could still heal in video games but it wasn't done in the movies and so that is implying very strictly in the movie canon healing couldn't be done it wasn't part of the force and it was smart because if you introduce it and especially if you introduce it in the wrong way you're gonna stuff up so much and that's exactly what they did with this they not only screw up they not only screw up how it's employed that you know what what cost is there to heal because it doesn't cost Ray anything she heals and she's perfectly fine but when Kylo heals he kills himself because there is there is no cost at all for Ray to heal in the movie except for anyone else so they screw that up and then they also screw up that this if it is in the movie it should take so much training to get this because it is not in the movies yet so as much as people say it was done before Disney decanonized everything else and so with the Disney canon this is not a force ability that was ever done by the Jedi ever how much do you believe that she could do it I don't even know the Force if I could just highlight by the way the only person who is shocked by this is BB-8 BB-8 is like hey what did you just do and she's like transferred force energy to the whim everyone else is like yeah whatever and now I want to remind you that Poe gets shot in the arm at one point in this film when he goes back to base he's got a bandage on it and he's like this is like hey Ray maybe you could like lead the hand you asshole I just want to point out Ray that remember we met that work that was going to eat us on that planet that animal that wild beast and you healed it could you help a brother out here or like friends at all it fucks up everything like it just it's so bad come on then you'd think according to the canon this was never done before okay Disney decanonized every other instance okay and even if it's in video games according to the movies it was never done before because we don't see it no one even references says this would have been useful thank goodness and people always they point out Palpatine you know Darth Plague is the wise he could overcome death and everything like that there is no indication that that was actually happening okay it's actually farmer in line that Palpatine was lying through his rear end to corrupt Anakin there is no indication to actually say that force healing was a thing and Darth Plague is the wise could do it and it's more likely again Palpatine was lying and even if it could even if he could that's not implying that is healing on the fly it was just immortality prevent like stop aging or preventing death or something like that so no one was saying or that statement isn't implying that you could just heal willy-nilly and so there's all that but then Rey she just doesn't no training no one knowing no one around her knowing how to do it and Ben Kenobi when he saves Luke Skywalker did not heal him Luke was still knocked out by the sand people that was not healing people tried to tell me that's healing and it wasn't okay no healing was done in Star Wars before the rage I can't stand it it is so dumb and she just pulls it out of her head it's the most Deus Ex Machina bullcrap use of the force up to this point which is only being done worse at the end of the movie when all the Jedi and she just we see her heal a lightsaber wound that goes straight through the chest can anyone think of another time where that may have happened in Star Wars to a significant character well Rey's godlike so it makes sense I would also like to point out as a little cap on the top of all that that um not really too much of a meaningful spoiler but this means that baby Yoda can heal better than Kylo Ren yeah that's the other thing like I criticize baby Yoda being able to do this bullcrap as much as Rey just because baby Yoda doing it doesn't mean that ah it's canonized it's in Star Wars I haven't seen Mando episode 7 yet well you don't see that but people are saying it we need to mention it because it's got direct implications about this they only put it in there to try and validate Rey being able to do it that's the only reason to reassure you it's not a big deal in the episode 10 yeah it is the least of that episode great awesome so I want to highlight next up right the wall just falls apart almost as if the worm did it on purpose it's hilarious it's just like well there's our exit folks it's very it would be one of the key moments I would say in like a video game where it just seems to work out that way because that's just the way it works it's like cool oh my god the cave is designed like a Skyrim done yeah it's like Zelda you complete the fucking puzzle doors open the puzzle was to heal the monster instead of kill it like every time you try to attack it it eats you it's like what is the trick here the monster just somehow knows that's exactly what your idea is to walk up into its face and heal it it knew it because of the fork this massive sand worm on an alien planet has a sophisticated sense of empathy that you I would then like to highlight if you guys saw it in the trailer there's this shot in the desert where the Knights of Wren are all standing on this platform with the cameras like pans around them looks kind of cool that's not the important bit the important bit to me is they are incredibly incompetent throughout this whole movie and this is one of the best examples where you have like eight dudes and they all just stand and look around that's what they do yeah they're great at it they're good standing arounders and uh looker guys somehow it works I just want to answer there was a question in chat someone saying what do you mean no training I meant no training in healing of course she just tried to train in other things no one none of her teachers knew you forced healing no Leia did totally don't give me that this is the thing knowing JJ and how fucking lame his throwaway lines a bit of this movie you would have expected in the opening to be like I can't you know connect with the Jedi I know that you've taught me force heal and forth blah blah blah but this other thing is not working and we'd be like oh my god I have found these to the G-pad where I felt as most appropriate and like her line afterwards she literally explains how she does it in the context of this is new to me I just figured it out I transferred my force life force into it isn't that amazing so that alone is implicating that she just figured it out in that moment it is worth highlighting by the way that this Mandalorian episode came out like a day before the movie did I think it's implied that it's supposed to be like is he baby Yoda could do it everyone could do it if you wish hard enough if you wish hard enough so yeah they all go back to Darth Uchi ship they decide there's no point going for the Falcon because that's obviously going to have been captured by now which is just like alright like I don't know why they would have direct coordinates for your Falcon I guess you parked it in an open space alright fine why wouldn't they leave someone to guard it or watch over it well yeah why wouldn't they have someone in there that can just drive it to them to pick them up wherever they end up that would have been useful they're like a fucking droid or something nah what about that big flimpy man the alien they could have had him in there doesn't have any arms and can't use the controls he was in there at the beginning he was in there at the beginning of the show oh uh Piggy not just said well I think it's implied she learned it from the books that she took oh the force healing I oh then that would be useful to me yeah how come all the Jedi don't know that actually means that means it should be a foundation that all the Jedi know from the very beginning if anything this is like my first force power we'll fix that up when Qui-Gon was stabbed he was delivering his death message Obi-Wan goes no it's fine he goes oh thanks man alright good let's move on I'll tell you what I was going to say later I guess I'll train yeah I'll train he's like no no I still can do it he's like no no it's okay I'll do it healing healing can be magical healing can be used in a story but you need to use it effectively it wasn't used effectively here it's used as a and it ruined so many things narratively it destroys tension and so even if you want to say you can justify it first of all it wasn't justified probably in the film but even if it was justified say you know they actually do mention there was a lost mysterious technique to actually learn from the books and everything like that it makes the situation worse okay you do not want healing in Star Wars okay you want there to be proper tension that when someone is injured you can worry about them everything like not just say let's find they'll just heal him if you have to have it it needs to be a long laborious tense process that takes a lot of time and a lot of concentration not all wounds can be healed it's it's something only if you it's like one of those high tier force powers that only the goodest of purest of most wonderful Jedi can learn how to do it it's very very difficult to pull off not just yeah I just just you don't think this is why Lucas kept the force really simple and force power is really basic in the original trilogy because the more things you introduce the more complexity you add to the point where you've basically tied yourself in knots that Jenga tower getting taller and taller with weaker foundations it used to just be force pull force push like you know it's like basically telekinesis mild telekinesis and mild telepathy that was originally and the lightning the lightning only was introduced as a really dangerous power by the most evil emperor which gives you the sense that like oh this guy isn't fucking around but now we've got like force astral projection well now you can lightning by accident but it's not just the lightning by accident it's not just it's not just the force though it's everything it's the technology space battles you know now you've got hyperdrive trackers and the declocking scans and and like hyperdrive huffs and everything like so many things you have to account for now it's possible it used to be that the rules existed and you had to write your story consistently with the rules but now it's the rules exist for the plots remember when force lightning wasn't the force equivalent of premature ejaculate I'm really trying to could you imagine that in like the in any other scene in this series like when Obi-Wan and Anakin were fighting and they were like trying to force push each other and then they just had lightning come out so it was like oh wow what the fuck I want to make you cry the shit out of each other I want to make you guys sad okay so I just saw a comment saying Star Wars is the story of Anakin and Luke Skywalker and it's like well let me amend that Star Wars is now the story of Anakin Luke and Rey Skywalker no it's not it's like no no no these movies are not canon they're bad fan fiction that will be forgotten I don't know that they'll be forgotten they'll be hated I genuinely think they will be kind of written irrelevant you know we are still you know 40 years after Star Wars came out you can go pretty much anywhere in the world people can tell you who Luke Skywalker is or Darth Vader 40 years from now no one's going to remember Rey or Kylo Ren or Finn or Poe Rey should have buried herself in that hole at the end she just like sinks into the sand tell my story there was no reason why that couldn't have happened they all just died in that sand pit you know it's interesting you brought up the whole thing with like the stories about for this series because a lot of people make the observation that you know the whole Anakin is the chosen one still works because he took down the emperor so in a lot of ways he eventually did for the prophecy as it were do you remember what he says in this movie he says restore the balance like I did bullshit that he restored the balance didn't even kill Palpatine yeah because there was still 10,000 Sith on Exegol just tanging around well whatever they are weird hoodie men like don't exactly know what this creature is up this is what snow exists to I'm honestly surprised they didn't have him say like Rey take the step do what I couldn't do you're so much stronger than I was how come how come there was no montage though when Palpatine's had with Darth Maul's like come on man you got this hey Darth Maul I know you killed me but I forgive you you know just do this for me on Plagueis has never written him on yeah all the darts of the past come on do it dooku's like no fuck you dude I'm helping Rey the Sith would be like dude what the fuck you killed us you betrayed us all my asshole I also find it crazy that so like he's got all the past Sith in him nice and weird she's got all the past Jedi in her and I'm like so what about the people who are like you know what I'm reformed were they going to slip into Palpatine but then just last minute they go ahh no I'm in Rey how about the Jedi out there who aren't part of the order what about all the Force sensitive people do they count as anything the issue is that they've made it to where it's like oh Jedi just in general ahh part of the force but that was never how it worked because all the Jedi got killed in order 66 they just drop dead they're dead like they're not alive anymore but what we do know from the force ghosting is that Ahsoka Tana was dead because she was one of the force ghosts so that I'm sure that'll be great for a bunch of people I'm sure they'll be really thrilled about that that Star Wars girl's not happy about that I'm not happy about that it's just like oh she's dead now it's like oh cool thanks awesome you had a character here that you could have maybe taken in as the sequel trilogy lead that people really liked but I guess not you didn't invent her or Disney didn't invent her so she doesn't get to be part of it I'm not up to date though what was she doing during the original trilogy well I know up to Rebel she like had a fight with Darth Vader I thought I thought she would have had to have died before then otherwise she should have been all there helping him out yeah well that's the issue it's like it's not like they figured it out they don't know what the fuck they're doing yeah I was actually going to say that's Disney's fault again they don't know what they're doing with Ahsoka Tana so so this is where I can't believe I'm saying this just go with me this is where it gets really stupid we've got the full team we've got the full team are heading to Darth Uchi's ship to use it to go to a place to get the translation for the knife plot wise like okay Ray fucks off she just she walks off and she says yeah I'll be back in a minute it's like wait wait wait well he's told to go and collect her yeah the stupid thing that he does is taking Darth Uchi's knife with him I keep calling him Darth Uchi even though he's not a Darth Uchi it's just funny Darth Uchi he might as well be Darth Uchi so somehow logistically right you've got think of this as a 2D plane going from left to right Uchi's ship Chewie Ray and the Knights of Wren cross into Chewie and capture him right and this is happening like the knowledge of Finn but not the knowledge of Poe cause Finn like walks down to see it happening and then he's like Ray what the fuck cause this is so awkward like everyone's way too close and it's also very just strange and clunky well the fact that they staged it in a massive open desert where there's no cover and there's no way any of this couldn't be seen by everyone and it's yeah there's some rocks yeah I assumed Ray was on one side of the rocks and Chewie went on the opposite side of the rocks looking for it how the fuck would he make that mistake no cause they know which direction she'd gone so they sent they could still you could literally see her remember the shot where she's realizing she's killed Chewie like you can see Finn in the background and the ship so how the hell did Chewie get lost listen Chewie Chewie's 250 years old you know what they say the sense of direction goes first Chewie how did you get lost what's that what he holds a little horn up to his ear is the fact that they were able to capture him without him getting off a shot or raising the alarm or doing anything to resist he just gave himself up it looks like an officer pulling across a drunk person as well it's like what's this knife you're holding a knife and she was like my knife but okay and yeah while this is happening Rey is just like in a trance staring at the fact that Kylo is coming for her now in terms of just characters acting it's like so Rey you think Kylo is on the way yeah she's like yeah it's like so why don't we get out of here it's like no no no no and then she like is laser focused into killing him so this goes two ways right so on her end she does kill him like twice he like rolls at 40 miles per hour like compartment across the world before we get there right what was Kylo's intention well that's what I was going to say I was explaining her half first it's going to be his half second because he rolls that fast and then he explodes at his fight she was definitely happy to kill him right we can all agree on that I have a confession right I've seen the movie twice don't judge me okay the family were going they had a spare ticket and I just wanted to see the reaction of everyone so it gave me the opportunity to pay attention more closely to certain things because I knew we were going to do this and I wanted to and sorry I watched this really closely okay when that tie fighter drops the compartment hits so hard and is rolling the g-forces would kill anyone inside that was a massive impact and then it explodes the thing full on explodes it comically explodes it looks funny in the background there's no way anyone survived that and he gets out and he's not even injured he doesn't even cut some bruises he just walks out he's like yo what's up did he do the same thing palpatine did to survive the death star exploding a force shield of the dragon ball z level something maybe it's like a demolition man when the safety foam explodes inside it and it just like covers him to shield him from the impact uh but then the other side of it is kylo's whole goal in this film is to turn it to the dark side and if he can't do it he said you know don't force me to kill you as a result of not turning to the dark side so that still is like this is early film goal he seems to be trying to kill her in this scene like run her over and the first thing and I know you point this out as well shatters it's like if you're trying to kill her why not shoot her use your laces use your laces like don't don't come in at like 10 feet off the ground like you're in a ship you've got the ultimate advantage over her you could hover like a thousand feet up in the air and just blast away it's it's bizarre like I don't know what the hell that's this is what I mean there are so many things wrong with that scene like we've we've gone through what's like 30 seconds of time or whatever and it's just so much to deconstruct it's the it's the whole thing because you know like we have to deal with this all the time on eFab is like you take longer than the thing to talk about the thing you're not good at your job it was like I think you just miss a lot of what's in a thing when you talk about it apparently you would think you would think shooting at her would distract her long enough so he can crash it it's been so funny she turns it back on him and runs runs away yeah now shoot yeah why are you running the thingy and like I got your wings like you're just wasting energy by running away from it it's not just just fucking duck and hold your lightsaber up like no no no that that's 6 or that 10 mile an hour difference is really going to help now for once the firefighter must be doing like 300 miles an hour you're not going to run it it's another perfect example of reason and logic being thrown out the window for the sake of a cool visual yeah that's all why Kylo couldn't have pulled up and just killed her yeah it was so dumb Kylo could have killed her a thousand ways with the setup of that I remember when the teaser trailer dropped and it was this scene that they showed and everyone was like oh it's not that he's trying to kill her she's going to leap on top of the ship and he's going to take her somewhere let's talk crazy taxi shit right there I remember the theories that I remember the theories that Poe was driving it that he was going to be turning to the dark side or some shit the reason they don't show us Kylo is because it's not actually Kylo in there and in the movie it's like yeah it's Kylo it's Kylo yeah it's like let's just go with the most basic explanation so in the context of the movie I don't think he's trying to kill her because he wants her to join to his side alright and so he's obviously trying to go to her or get her riled up and everything like that so if that was his intention could you imagine if she slipped and didn't jump and he just wait so like was this planned to he knew that she would jump and destroy his ship what is the point of the whole thing if that's the case he could have just landed nearby and then walked over to talk to her what's up it's me Kylo that's what he did later on when he was trying to force pull the ship down instead of like force pushing her away but it was like a test of some bullshit I wish he just slipped and he accidentally just splattered her into me that's the end of the trill that's the end of the whole saga it's just like I really thought she was going to jump so yeah I want to highlight right you have Finn walks out to see that she is still she's not that far away and he's like wait a minute where's Chewie he glances to his right and several meters away Chewie is just being reprimanded by several stormtroopers he's like had cuffs and shit and he looks sad and they're all like hey you naughty boy with your knife by the way in the shot you can see a second transport behind the first one it's like ahhh I can't see it and so Finn sees that that he's like oh that's this weird that he's like walks forward and shouts that's Chewie on that transport and so comes the seed wish I think her intention naturally is to just pull the transport down with the force for some reason she has trouble with this I don't understand why she's she's like so powerful don't tell me those rocks weren't as heavy she's not very intelligent either in terms of using the force first of all try and knock off the thrusters with the force can you just break them, crush them, do something and if not direct the ship so that you push it down, angle it down so its thrusters are actually helping you instead of angling it up so that they're pushing against you again she's a very clever person obviously she's getting nowhere and then Kylo turns up, fine by the way not a scratch and he pushes it away and it creates this really awkward scene and the thing that was said in the leaks I didn't think it would be real she lets loose her force lightning and murders everyone on that transport and I want to highlight immediately she's very happy to discover that Chewie is still alive later but she doesn't give a shit if she killed anyone on that transport any prisoners of any other kind she's just like yay I got Chewie back it's like wow I wonder if there were any people from the festival that were arrested there's a dead trooper lying there of course people got arrested he's got an arrow in his eye the little child that gave her the necklace was on there it's no damn if Ryan had wrote it it wasn't Chewie it was Lando you're like what the fuck but then yeah Kylo just lets them go he doesn't chase them at all neither do the Knights of Ren and you might be thinking like ah you've forgotten though that they do, they like tail them in space if you remember they're like following them directly and it's like why didn't they just capture them and maybe you're like ah because they want them to translate the Sith tag? you're like no they can do that themselves Palpatine can read Sith and they already have the McMuffin like why would they do that they have a McMuffin um so it's really confusing and then you find as soon as they arrive at Kojimi they're trying to capture them so why didn't they just capture them on Pasana this movie is fascinating and you have a line from Poe being like hmm probably should have been following us but they're not I don't feel good about that I mean that's a little bit later but I just I don't understand some more fantastic editing where they've had to cut a bunch of stuff out possibly yeah because what is the motivation of the Knights of Ren and Kylo Ren to not chase to not capture our heroes at this point in the story Knights of Kylo before we move on too far from the scene I do want to again I know we've already pointed out but it needs to be said again about the sheer stupidity that Rey can do for a lightning by accident it's just unbelievable why did she never ever use that again because it's really dark for her yeah it's a dark side power which should imply that she shouldn't even be capable of doing it she's not on the dark side in that any measure in that scene and so and if I'm trying to get the idea across that oh maybe she is dark side it's like no fuck off she is not she is the most purest amazing character ever exactly exactly and the fact that someone can use such a high tier force power by accident is like like any argument people had of Rey not being a Mary Sue is utterly destroyed by this movie I don't know how anyone could try and argue that anymore after what we see she's yet to lose a single battle she's never lost she technically lost to Kylo but not me she beat him though what I mean is like you look at the prequel and the OT both times main characters lost and lost definitively getting their arms chopped off like losing the bad guy because they get away losing wars it's like yeah the good guys lost a lot the one time she comes close to losing the plot bales are out and then she stabs him in the gut the one time she dies the plot bales are out I know right it's great when there's absolutely no consequences for the main character yeah I know that's why she was so surprised by the force lightning they're like oh consequences and then she's like oh lol never mind someone in chat said more the knights of wren saw where Chewie came from thus my point is that they know where the ship is and they do nothing about it except chase it but then once they've chased them to Kojimi they're like oh let's not they wander around and remember the knights of wren walk like in lockstep around Kojimi it's like guys maybe split up they're like nope if you remember Kylo red is like where are they the scene cuts in with them having said something to him and he goes search the city again here's a question if the emperor was feigning oh Kylo I want you to kill Ray what if Kylo said can you lend me one of those planet destroying ships so that wherever I trace her I can just blow her up Palpatine knows very well that she would survive though yeah you've got 9999 of them can I just have one it wouldn't work blow it up planet doesn't do shit it didn't kill it didn't curl kill Zoril Stiss no that's someone else sorry bliss I said the fucking lizard god from divinity fuck Zoril bliss um yeah it did kill her and I bet and she took Babufrik with her thank god he survived I love the idea that they were really happy to join the fight with everyone on Kojimi's dead except for those two just like well gotta make the best out of this situation we haven't gotten to that part yet meeting Zoril bliss yeah well we're about to be raise all like upset she's like I killed Chewie I might be a bad person and then Finn's like nah you know and then she's like nobody knows me I think that's part of the film that could be Leia yeah basically I don't know who I am but everyone seems to and I just be like no right no one knows who you are no one ever has what do you mean no one cares we got nothing to work with um yeah then we go to Kojimi and they're immediately like in hoodies to add to the effect that the Knights of Ren couldn't have found them immediately but I just again I'm just so confused that's why they wouldn't have been captured on Posanna but whatever they bump into Zoril Bliss by chance I don't understand how that's likely she knows Poe from their history and she kinda hates him oh she wants to kill him yeah she hates him to the point where she not only wants to kill him but she wants to sell the rest of them as fugitives they're bounty they're about to just a strong position to take right that's something that's like oh shit this is going to be tough to work out and um they drop that entirely when Rey beats them up yep pretty much a common trait of the Mary Sue is that everybody loves them and what does Zoril Bliss say I like you even if you don't care and Rey is like nah I can't it's like it was a force power but it's a Mary Sue power it's like you just beat me up some people might be threatened by that get angry that they'll beat and want revenge but it's like magic yeah whenever you defeat someone in combat add a plus 10 to their attitude rating versus you grant that daughter you complete a mission plus respect thank you so much for beating this shit out of me you're so amazing I want to be just like you when I grow and it's crazy because we find out that they're desperate on that planet and she says when she's talking about giving them up that this will be what they need to like you know get get what they need whatever yeah so like every motivation is established for them to sell them out and then she just goes nah we won't and she gives up the most important item she owns yeah that was so weird so she's got that little that little tracker icon she's got that Pringle chip whatever that will mask her ship signature so they can escape the planet and this is extremely valuable this will save her life essentially this will get her off planet off world she could go somewhere else she could finally be free it means a crazy amount to her and she just gives it up so there and she to the very person she wanted to kill for leaving her for dead in her own words and she's like I'll give this to you not only that but the very concept idea of that chip is so remarkably dumb because she said it was belong it's the mark of a general or something like that Captain's medallion it's basically an IMV tag yeah which organization ever has given any you know military leader that time usually to determine if a military leader has the right to get into top secret or whatever things they ask what their name is the clearance you can pass they don't ask are you wearing the right badge did you give us the Pringle we gave you do you have that with you it's worse than that guys because the idea is that it gets you past any blockades what she says the idea they scan your ship you present your captain's medallion and he goes oh captain's medallion you're all good it's fine however you remember sorry you think that they just look out the window and be like what ship is that well this is the thing you might be like no no no the way it works is any ship with that is just automatically trusted you're like okay do you remember when pride walks into the hangar for no reason and goes who's ship is that it's like so he he automatically responsible for inspecting new ships yeah I know right automatically just from the look of the ship he's immediately like who the hell who's ship is that what the fuck I explain this bullshit yeah and it's like no no no sir they have a captain's medallion it's like I don't give a fuck I was like this doesn't mean much if there's not a captain to go along with it and that makes that makes you question so a captain's medallion I'm guessing all captains are provided these yeah and it's like okay so the captain who theoretically is alive and lost his medallion would he not get it deactivated because it's not his yeah and let's just say they took it from a dead captain wouldn't his be deactivated because he's dead like it and if I did sense it they're like oh it's our missing in action general or it's our dead general something's up here it just doesn't work if they had one of these in force awakens could the millenium falcon just have flown on to the desktop I guess so well they're the specular and not have to do the hyperspace thing at behind the shoes it's fine I got clearance I'm trying to think of how they were gonna how they would fix this and I'm like man this is like a problem of their own creation yeah well because you know it's setting up them rescuing chewy like that's the whole point of that yeah they didn't want to try and come up with anything logical that would explain how they sneak on board the ship there it was lazy it's like we'll just make another McMuffin here you go that'll get you on the ship maybe they get on the ship and then the first thing they do is kill all the stormtroopers who are in the vicinity like are there no security cameras yeah yeah how funny is it they're like shooting weapons she's like we gotta blow up the cameras it's like do you think they'll find it suspicious that there's one area the place that's got all these cameras destroyed like they're probably gonna go to that place I mean you're remembering a new hope what did they do they is like hey they checked in and Han Solo answered the comms there is like the original empire was like wait something's up yeah and they eventually they say like what's your operating code or whatever and he's like ah fuck a fantastic scene how are you things are great here how are you oh yeah and as anyone would be able to highlight now so that she explains is her only ticket out of there she still manages to get out of there somehow okay this is what I mean like you're led to believe so many things that just immediately are not the case later you're just like alright whatever movie just this is the roller coaster of emotions I suppose they build the thing and then they destroy it right away oh we need to kill C3PO nope he is restored I'm making a list I'm writing all of these ones down so what characters that die and then come back to life not only that just things that are set up that are instantly contradicted in the film the whole switcheroo list so I guess we should say introducing Babu Frick a fantastic character who's like the droid Smith his job is to reset C3PO and delete his memory so he can access the translation of where McMuffin number two is actually isn't that McMuffin number three because we've got a dagger we've got the badge and now we've got actually so the way I order them is McMuffin one and two are the way finders McMuffin three is the knife oh god number four is the first order thing the chip oh the captain's medallion yeah oh that's number four well they're kind of switched out in terms of priority because their initial goal was like get the dagger get the way finder then get to Exegoo and blow up the tower sort of thing but they get the dagger C3PO translates it but they have to get them to a planet then to get them reprogrammed then that sort of switches out that goal they still haven't got to the way finder yet but then in order to get off the planet they need the captain's badge so that switches out like McMuffin number one so it's like you're constantly spinning around step one in this process yeah JJ Abrams was quite the McMuffin juggler I mean I'm obligated to say technically if we're being very strict we're using the wrong definition of McMuffin but common language is actually altered the definition McMuffins oh McMuffins you're right because technically there is a distinction between a McGuffin and a plot device and everyone is using McGuffin to mean plot device but common language evolves and that's generally what everyone is now using it for so I'm kind of on board with that yeah I guess the thing is because a plot device isn't necessarily a bad thing plenty of things are plot devices but it's good but McGuffins are just contrived or stupid wait isn't the ring a McGuffin uh what you technically know because it is an object like the best example of a true McGuffin by the original definition is in Pulp Fiction the thing that's inside the briefcase you don't know what it is yeah yeah so a true McGuffin is something that actually you don't know what it is it's purely a plot like only there for the plot and it doesn't have any the characters aren't holding it they're not like it's does that make sense yeah but the ring you know what it is it affects the world it's just a persistent item it has a history to it and it has defined it has defined abilities and so you know a lot about it where a true McGuffin is something you don't really know anything about it's just a thing whatever the plot needs it to I've never known that it's something that you don't know much about I've always just known it as something that the story revolves around or the characters revolve around it oh no no because I actually made a video on McGuffins and most of my audience called people who were informed in the writing terminology of these things said hey Shad you got it wrong and I was like oh crap because I looked it up and I was like see yeah see is it not defined a McGuffin is defined as something that you the characters kind of fight over rather than something that they can use it's something that they want yeah it's something they want or it's something that I think it is but it doesn't have any actual use on its own that's why the ring isn't a McGuffin because it can be used to turn you invisible for example so yeah but the word everyone like it nearly every single video review I've been watching people and me calling these things McGuffins which is kind of getting me into know like the word is just evolving this is what kind of people but there is a more official definition I want to point out so a couple thing someone in the chat say or not in the chat in the discord said in the EU force healing was normally used to accelerate natural healing or to cure minor wounds even Anakin who can use force healing was unable to use it at the level Ray does well naturally he's not as powerful as he's much more impressive yeah yeah he's shit um hey so this is pretty funny um the guy who played that uh that guild member in episode five of the Mandalorian has called the rise of skywalk in the worst Star Wars movie yeah I heard about that he was the guy who played the stupid bounty hunter in episode five the one who was in uh in uh Tatooine alright he would be correct in his shit so was his episode yeah but I'm just surprised that he was in the war are you allowed to say that I don't know he was killed so I guess he's not getting any more work yeah but no he'll come back as a force ghost no one's ever really gone a bounty hunter ghost it's a little different you can I don't know what the differences are but it's it's different so while Barbu Frick is getting his droid smithing on we get a nice little private conversation with uh with Poe and uh Zory Bliss and which I couldn't have cared less about well the purpose of the conversation is to set up why everybody's gonna come back at the end when they didn't in TLJ yeah and uh apparently it's because they're afraid and they need to be united and the there's always there's more of them than there are of the first order which I found really funny because like well it maybe but it doesn't really matter because the first order have a thousand planet destroying ships so like even if there is more of you guys they could just said what dude at the start is trying to blow up your entire planet okay but also like how come when are the rebels went up against the Death Star in Return of the Jedi nobody came to help them no we near as much as we got at the end of this movie no and you a new hope actually says you know fear will keep the systems in line fear of this battle station you cross us will destroy your planet okay yeah yeah um what I mean is in the case of uh in the case of Return of the Jedi you've launched in this full frontal assault that's going to be the end of the empire but nobody gave a shit I guess is the implication when when you watch that movie you get the impression like yeah this is pretty much the full extensive people who are going to fight against this yeah I agree that's kind of what's being implied by the previous ones that the fear of one planet destroying weapon will keep most of the populace down from rising up and fighting against them it only takes only a few brave people really willing to do it well now that's actually in this movie because now we have thousands of planet destroying weapons and you think that would hold anything else the one time when the first order were at their weakest when they didn't have any planet destroying weapons that's the point when nobody was willing to help and they were crippled by Holdo like significantly crippled yeah it's like you could end this war now just to get some forces here I guess I want to highlight as well it's like it's even worse because Exegol is like apparently known to be this horrible place to have any ships go to it's just so dangerous and they have to travel through space cancer to get there it's just all backwards it seems like all of their shields are working by the way and it certainly star destroys not yeah remember how episode 5 begins with a shield generator clearly an atmosphere no no no that doesn't work no see the Jar Jar's people had it in Phantom Menace and then they were all killed and nobody ever figured it out from there yeah well yeah it makes sense play creations just said do the Knights of Wren have to stay together when they force ghosts they just walk around together everywhere well can we live together we die together for all eternity they're like the dragon brothers and quest for Camelot yeah there's just to sort of support that conversation he has with it later on he's like people will come if we lead them didn't you kind of do that in TLJ and nobody came no one gave a shit no one gave but alright now that we know there are a thousand planet destroying ships yeah now it's the time for us to fight back you know how Ray fixed Dio's wheel she made it non squeaky do you think they did that and had that moment to give it motivation to help us as a team of heroes yeah it's all like oh look we're giving it all the love that it never got before and now it wants to betray it's master is the Sith yeah isn't this really intensely dangerous to have droids that have free will and they can be easily influenced by other people like they can have all kinds of classified information it's like well they'll just hand it over if you oil their wheels I was thinking about that when we watched Mandalorian we're like so are droids like alive like people I don't think it's ever been established is it they keep it vague on purpose but now they keep pushing it really hard and all the newer stuff remember Han Solo's movie yeah exactly yeah they everybody is they got free will now and they're people now but that's the thing they did not treat C-3PO like a person in this fucking movie yeah like they were cool with him getting memory wipes and dying and then afterwards they didn't give a single shit that he's like I don't know any of you like yeah yeah very funny he has played for jokes and what frustrates me about so much is that C-3PO says that his memory can actively be backed up by RTD2 so you think oh are there any droids anywhere on this planet oh hang on we have a droid right here from this other thing so anyway why would a droids have any access to droids that makes no sense yeah the person operating on your memory could you just like take his memory files and just drag him to a USB for that's a big help man thanks so much that was easy Don Radcoff said they say in the movie they can't turn their shields on an exegol specifically not in atmosphere nope it's specifically said it's about the atmosphere they say to be very specific they say that if they rise above the atmosphere in exegol they'll be able to turn on their shields but they can't do that without navigation for whatever reason they can't go up without navigation from a tower at best at best it's implied they never stated it's because of exegol but they do say before him that exegol is a mess it's got gravity wells and lightning spikes and all these things isn't that referencing the space around exegol they say it they say that to justify the navigation no ship will be able to navigate in this they won't even know which way it's up and you could just look where's the gravity it's like the nature of gravity should tell you like how she tends to fall when we go this direction that's weird and I was going to say these lines are specific because JJ is trying to create stakes for a final fight he's desperately trying to draw them together and it makes you wonder what exactly is on those ships computers they don't even know what way is up like why is it so big what's the point of these ships the fight they actually show that they can upload the navigation coordinates to an individual ship which then they say needs to broadcast the other ships why not just upload those coordinates to the other ships why don't all the ships just have whatever is required you build on this planet let's give them the best benefit of the doubt this is the only planet where ships don't know how to go up unless they have a tower built on them why don't you just build the tower on each of these ships or like if you can't do it on each ship maybe more than one ship would be a good idea you lose one tower and one ship it's the end of the thing how insane is that you lose one tower or one ship and you're fucked the fight is done it's the great leaps of logic that they have as well like when tower gets taken out and you're shut down they switch control over to another ship with Pride in command and instantly Finn is like it's that ship which is controlling it it's like how do you even know that he explains it he says he has a feeling that's cool that's awesome bags don't care about your feelings God sorry so because the ship doesn't even know how to go up they then say that you won't be able to open shields in atmosphere and so best faith interpretation is that it is implied that shields can't be used on that planet which means Palpatine needs to push these ships into above atmosphere immediately yeah all they need to do is go up why are they sitting in that atmosphere then just raise them up a bit and you're fine I hope this goes down as being like something eventually once everyone's talked about this enough that ships can't go up in this film I want that to like be known as just like that's a stupid thing that happens in this film ships can't even go up imagine that helicopter is like we can't go up until we have caught it caught and it's like all you do is go up from here what are you talking about it's like you're standing on the deck of the ship just look up see that there is space to go up just trust me go up there are people on a bridge looking outwards at the ship do you like the idea by the way that they would prefer to opt to be destroyed than try going up themselves you have a 50% chance of getting it right guys may as well just risk it all and try going up there's like also the direction that we came from that was down let's just go the other way but even if gravity was like telling you up was in a different direction all the ships are in line you don't even need gravity to tell you just move the ship in the direction of it it's top and you'll reach space go from the way you didn't come from because the way you came from was underground caverns Palpatine could just force push them up I would just love to see the bridge crew of these Star Destroyers having this argument like no up is that way if the ship is down you go the opposite way from that you're fucking it up Frank how do they not even figure it out the poor helmsman is just like up is the ceiling so just lift us up we'll figure this out ships 1, 2, 3 and 4 you go in 4 opposite directions the survivors can tell us which way it is the most impressive fleet in the history of the galaxy we'll figure out how to do it they don't go up now they don't go up we gave every one of you guys a planet destroying cannon and you don't know which way it is you guys need to saw your priority thank god we got this fancy red armor that's the thing right when I was watching this movie and I saw the thousand star destroyers this is over they've lost it's over what bullshit are they gonna come up with to get themselves out of this no shields in atmosphere we don't know which way is up it reminds me of being avengers when they destroy the base of the Tatarin they just all drop dead it's like wow that was helpful yep destroy the command center and all the battle droids turn off we're not doing too bad by the way we're at hour into the movie now oh sweet what is that 40% way it's just under halfway it's a 2 hour 10 minute movie or at least around it but yeah so they rescue Chewie because we've been over all the stupid things that they managed to avoid capture with Ray and we just went over this with someone else but this is a new instance I'm not repeating this Ray says I need to go this way and pose like what the fuck and he's like why and she goes a feeling and then walks off she happens to find Chewie's bowcaster is bandolier and the knife and Vader's mask she finds all of that which is weird because this is in Kylo Ren's quarters right because he says this later okay it makes sense that he would keep the mask in there and so on but why Chewie's bowcaster and his bandolier like what's his interest in having them and why the fuck wouldn't the knife be locked down it's the most important item in your like arsenal it leads directly to Exegol and why would you keep it on a shelf why didn't you destroy it yeah that's fair too it almost feels like he wanted Ray to get it back even though he took it off it like what is happening and again Kylo was not there during Chewie's abduction so why would any of that be in his quarters well I'm okay with that I just threw it in we have somebody who sends out their assassin and the location of their base is written on the assassin's weapon just remind everybody that that's a thing in this movie the location to the key to the base oh that's just bad this is just bad if you put yourself in Ochi's position okay and the location to the thing that leads to the most secret you know Sith place in the universe you might want to keep that to yourself or better yet best best if you if you want to record it you might write it down on a secure kind of file somewhere maybe on your computer or anything like that but writing it on your dagger okay that you carry around with is dumb why would you put your map on your weapon this is where the person who sent me is from come and get him that's probably against guild guidelines oh yeah uh oh so yeah she goes and finds all that meanwhile Poe, Chewie and Finn are all essentially assaulted by several troopers they do not get shot to death at any point Poe gets shot in the arm but then they all stop if you want proof that Stormtroopers can't aim I mean this is just termed once again how many stormtroopers do they go through they tear through they tear through there are plenty of scenes where stormtroopers just do not shoot them they just don't shoot them I think the best example there's a shot where they're all walking toward the camera, our heroes and then you can see three stormtroopers in the background all of our heroes flip around and kill all of them before they can shoot them terrible it's crazy how all of the stormtroopers didn't do any formations or anything they're just running around like chickens with their heads cut off bunch of civilians with guns they just slapped them in their hands and sent them down the hallway like how did you conquer the galaxy how did you manage that I want to highlight as well that when Poe is shot and he falls down you have that shot of Finn going and he like runs up to to Poe and slides to him and he's like oh my god are you okay he doesn't look anywhere like whoever just shot your friend is probably still around and then you look up and it's like loads of stormtroopers that is Finn's signature move though isn't it to scream a character's name and then run up run Chewbacca Poe can I well you can say one name yeah do it I already said the name okay fine no what does ready the feeling to where the thing is because when she force talks to them she asks for Chewie and her belongings why does she need an extra feeling when the soldiers just tell her where the fucking thing is oh you mean she asks where Chewie's stuff is yeah and then she says oh yeah yeah you're right that is a good point actually there's a lot of redundant things going on in this stage of the movie that way so that means yeah that's stupid but that also means that they were very hell bent on not just saving Chewie but making sure to save his bandolier and his gun yeah like guys priorities yeah because I just saw that so the way it happens she picks up the bandolier like hey this is what I wanted and then she sees the knife like oh shit the knife oh yeah that's right that's why I'm here we wouldn't want to have Chewie go around without his bowcaster and we don't want him to be naked yeah he's naked without that but is this then the scene where Skyler sorry Skyler then Skyler he Skype calls her and then they have a fight like a legit fight where they're like damaging objects around them yeah that's the thing it was so underwhelming I don't count that as a proper lightsaber jewel they're just kind of and hitting their lightsabers against each other on occasion it's not a real fight scene this is where the movement of objects through space just goes bonkers where they like they split open like baskets of fruit that start spilling on the floor in the other location and all this it's just there's no logic to any of it I think that they didn't stay there the berries didn't like stay in the room I think they did I think they did they like teleported into the room but I love that Kylo is like trying to figure out where she is and the whole time she's holding the dagger holding the dagger yeah like where are you where are you it's actually terrible because like when I was looking at the scene I was just like oh so lucky that the helmet she's holding the knife she's holding the knife I actually didn't even see that no I think most people wouldn't have JJ certainly didn't no wait I do remember I was actually thinking why isn't she using a good knife to fight him well I mean it is kind of a shitty knife it's a really shitty knife yeah but yeah she knocks over Darth Vader's helmet and he goes oh there you are like there you are well also he would have been he also establishes by the way that her parents were like good tisms and that they were killed by Palpatine the other reveal is coming I just find it amusing because how is that not a retcon of them being drunken assholes who sold it for drinking money like that's clearly a retcon no Kylo was lying but he said he wasn't lying I don't know what he told her was true he states in this film that he wasn't he never lied to it they could have been drunk at the time I suppose you know what it was they were going to give Rey away they were going to give her away anyway and then Omkar Plut was like do you want some drinking money he's like yeah I mean it's better to have drinking money in no kid than just no kid so that's why Darth Uchi is like give me that drinking money that's how everyone do there's like no oh gee the sif code forbids drinking so yeah before we get that second reveal we find out that Hux is indeed the spy and he stops all of our heroes from being executed they come that close he happens to be the one that oversees good thing that Pride didn't say execute these people right here right now yeah like he did with Hux yeah literally did with I just love that the most senior officers in the entire first order can be involved in the most mundane tasks yeah Pride just happens to be wandering through the hangar to inspect the ship that arrives it's like why are you there why is this your job it's like ships can't tell up from down I might as well check on the hangar see if the hangar is up or down I don't know I'll see how the boys in the hangar bay are doing um it's a massive continuity problem that I've noticed right around this point I'm not sure because before are you about to go to where Ray is then confronted by Kylo again well there's a little bit before that but go ahead no you go and I'll interject so what I was going to say is that she arrives at the hangar expecting to see Chewie, Poe and Finn she has no idea they've been captured all she sees is C-3PO surrounded by stormtroopers and she kills all of them she kills like five of them easily they don't give a shit they just stand there and die and then she's like okay so where are they and C-3PO is like oh they haven't gone back yet and she's like okay she puts the bowcaster on C-3PO puts the band leader on him tells him, BB-8 and Dio to go and find them I was thinking to myself like what do you think is going to happen let's say best case scenario they are still working through these little corridors trying to find them they just bump into them and they get them back to the ship okay that's a pretty great result what if they've been captured Rey what are your droids going to do they're just going to walk up and be like oh fuck this was the thing I was going to point out but I thought they were already on the falcon at that time no not yet so Hux has just told them that he's the spy and then we cut back to Rey okay okay because I thought she gets there and she basically gives the stuff to C-3PO and then very shortly after suddenly Kylo's there with all the stormtroopers around him and then C-3PO and the rest just suddenly they teleport to the falcon I was wondering how they could it's still terrible it's not as terrible as that so C-3PO the first corridor he goes down he turns a corner and we see Hux Finn and Poe are just standing there and he's like aha my friends I was just like wow wow that was convenient there's so many ways you could have walked and you just walked the right one okay and a ship that's like a mile long it's got phases of corridors and rooms again with the throwaway lines we were told that Pride locked the ship down but Hux like says just as the scene starts you've got a few seconds before like lockdown continues or something like that so he's like okay he putting himself at so much risk they point out to us that there's cameras to destroy and he's running around telling them exactly where to go and what to do but I'm like how do you think you're gonna get away with this like you and he's like ah this is all to kill Kyla like we've been over this before but I just don't understand his plan and I think that he just got degraded from a character into a person who will bail them out when they need to be bailed out that's it like he's the reason the plot starts cause he's the guy who gives the info to the droid and then he's the reason that they get off this ship successfully that's his involvement in the whole story well yeah he became almost like what could you have used him properly after the last Jedi where it was just such a clown and useless well that's the thing I think JJ made a good point in recreating a better Hux in Pride and then having Pride kill Hux cause I think everyone liked Pride for the most part he was just like yeah well he seemed like a kind of competent commander yeah like outside of the retarded choices in the end like I liked him I thought he was fine maybe I just got a thing for old British men I don't know maybe yeah well you know it's a good kind it's a massive way to live life I suppose but anyway they all get into the falcon and they somehow know that Rey's like waiting at the side of the hangar where their ship was I don't like how I guess C-3PO would have told them and they assumed that she would there's so many things that could be happening is kind of what my point is how would C-3PO have known that she might not have moved on to another place I guess they just hoped they parked outside they're like oh my goodness look it's Kylo red and Rey Rey jump yeah so this is where Kylo reveals the Palpatine is her grandpappy and that just destroys everything about TLJ I've got this in my script but I don't think JJ realises how many essays he just made obsolete good job good on you JJ good for you JJ we're proud of you so many people's like analyses hinge on the idea that she comes from nothing powerful itself and that the idea with her character is that greatness can come from anywhere that sort of sappy shit oh yeah he got wrecked out like this is the thing if Ryan has episode 10 whatever the fuck he would probably have throw away lines in there like Palpatine would often lie to people about how he was their grandfather it was a tactic that he would use all the time he would make you question your parentage his parentage that's how that goes just consider the comparison the reveal of Darth Vader being Luke Skywalker's father they had the build up and then the final truth coming out and compare that to the weak pathetic version of this one where there's like Palpatine's your dad by the way yeah there's no in any of it none of the conflicts have any kind of weight to them because none of it has been built up from anything it's just all plonked in there there's no real reason for any of these people to be in conflict particularly there's no connection between any of them one word or one line explanations for it it's got nothing did you guys like the Hux has like a bandage over his trousers that's where I got shot yeah but you put the bandage on your skin maybe put the trousers over it but no it just looks really and I honestly think it's on purpose just to be like look how fucking stupid he is no no no Hux is right Hux is right when you have a burn wound on you you don't want to remove the clothes from the burn I know I don't even think that this is the same clothes isn't it I think it is I'm just suggesting that it looks as if it's been cleaned and dressed or whatever but they just put the dressing on top I guess the bet it's sort of what you want to do until you can get to like proper medical care but he's got a cane he had to get the cane that's what I'm trying to say this is post medical care from what looks to be like I guess I was thinking in terms of like first aid yeah because he's got the cane and he's walking around with this maybe he always has a cane with him maybe that's his standard issue in period of care standard issue in period of care first in case it's time to pounce so they hyperdrive right and this is the scene sorry where a post says they're not following us I don't like this like cause they can follow through hyperdrive but they just don't again I don't know why they just don't so it's just a red herring to make you think something might happen how can they tell if someone is following I thought in last year you only knew they were following you when you reach your location I don't know so if you're in hyperspace how could you tell I guess what can I say he says that he says that I'll follow it I don't like this the other thing I wondered actually when probably just like executes straight away and he's like well we found our mole like why would you kill him like wouldn't you want to interrogate him to figure out what he's been telling people and like whose contacts are and stuff like there's all kinds of information you could get from him that might be useful I didn't actually consider that I was just so happy to see him kill someone yeah it was a boss moment for the new character to just show like is pretty you know I'll kill execute people straight away and so it made him cowardly as hell imagine the information you could get yeah he might know he might know contacts locations and information and oh man the audience is watching throw his ass across the floor I mean I enjoy this it won't matter because we'll have that was a powerful blaster that was like bowcaster level which if everyone likes to point out it's like yeah the bowcaster blasts people away what it hit Kylo he just goes ooh and you know what they'll say they'll be like well you know the force I like how that's what people say that's stupid whoa you know the force that doesn't make any sense well the force you know well yeah what isn't the force yeah also no interrogation on him who was your who was your contacts that you were given info to surely there was more than one where are they going what do you know where did you send them what did they tell you none of that we just said what welcome back to the converse yeah blank out for a second carry on it's okay so yeah this is the scene where Ray says she's gonna destroy palpatine and Finn's like no that's not you don't do it don't do it I love that she's not good story capable of doing that this is palpatine I'm just gonna destroy him well I guess I mean if you said that to her she'd probably be like well I haven't lost yet so I would just I would just love it if Finn said to her like oh you know what you need to do you need to protect what you love not destroy what you hate a smart person told me that once I think that's like she's shouting through the hole in the wall it's like peak platitude the most meaningless statement the wants to be meaningful ever really like try to try to sound wise when it is dumb sorry on so many levels oh yeah and this is the weird singular scene that lasts about like five seconds where you just have the emperor is talking to kylo directly like on the phone he's like you better not have betrayed me no I'm not it's really weird this is like okay he just carries he's like you better kill that scavenger he's like yeah do it don't make me read your mind just having phone calls with each other so now we got it I gotta frame this hey how come um how come the emperor used the hologram to you know talk to Darth Vader and empire why didn't he just force phone call him because why didn't he force phone call oh this dude this is the one thing we can't actually answer with because the force it's like no that's my question it's like oh no but that's oh good job that's awesome thanks movie the planet exegol right has so many gravity walls and things like that that a ship can't even navigate to tell which way is up yet they can broadcast communications across light years there's no interference there no Palpatine give the carrier pigeon to somebody in a ship and then they went outside of the space cancer and then they broadcasted it no he force pushed a message I think he force pushes on the toilet down you go oh no I can't tell which way is down so yeah right this whole sequence if you remember from start to finish is they arrive here they eventually get the McMuffin Ray leaves Kylo's goal with this whole place is to have her like fight him and hopefully push it to the dark side if he can't he'll kill her I he does seem to go to killer in the scene would you guys agree with that like the fight they have he like goes to a final swipe but then layers like yo and he's like oh you skipped over a lot no no no we're on the death star no no no this is all on end or yeah yes no that's what I mean but we initially we were on no no the last thing we talked about was the conversation they're having on the way to end or yeah but there's a lot of things to break down when they no of course I'm not talking about that yet there's a specific thing because I can't address this issue that's right at the beginning without addressing the end first so why is Kylo there so yes I agree we can we can reasonably assume Kylo's whole motivation is to get to Ray to fight her to the dark side or to killer for some reason he doesn't follow her until way later why and how does he know where they are as well yeah you're on hyperspace tracker that's fine with me but they weren't getting tracked well they were well so the idea at least in TLJ is you have a ship go away with hyperspace and then you have where they ended up on your screen now why why light sprinting or light skipping works is because they've done one and then they do another one before you can get their coordinates again now why it didn't fully work in the opening of this film is because the TIE fires were keeping up with them all of that to me is like shaky but kind of works okay I'm following so this one is they go from Kojimi to Endor system and Poe is like why aren't they following us that's weird you know this kind of a plot hole as well like why wouldn't he have light skipped three times before getting to Endor just to cover his own ass but I guess he just thought fuck it you're at operating procedure at this point yeah you'd think that would be standard well I blew up the fucking last time so I guess like they can't do it yeah they should have had a throwaway line come on JJ you're good at this you gotta get their throwaway lines there so the idea is they have their location and Kylo because Kylo does use it eventually but he just doesn't for a bit why it gives our heroes time to you know get to the McMuffin which is the only reason that's what I mean I'm just like it's just so weak it's like they had because they couldn't just get there which by the way it's so fucky so like did you catch that their landing gear breaks they crash right do you know why do you know why because they can't then move the ship and land it onto the Death Star or drop people off that's just well this is the thing I don't care if your landing gear doesn't work just fucking drive it over there and drop people off when you're hovering and so you have this whole nonsense with the water and the climbing and it's like this is like an open hole in Palpatine's room just have it jump in she could jump in grab the McMuffin and jump back on the ship and they can leave that's how good it would have taken it would have taken years to search that record she needed to be on the shore so the dagger would point to where the McMuffin is that's why I laughed to the dagger bit also can we that's such bullshit as well because like that relies on you standing in a very specific place which isn't marked you could be anywhere and you're gonna see that records from all different angles how are you supposed to know any of this that's why I laughed in the theater when she did that I was wide eyed my eyebrows were hitting like my hairline I was just like what also that the fucking cut out that the knife has is even the thing that makes you like that's the last thing you need to have on your dagger blade it makes it an inefficient weapon you have to yeah so you're basing it on the kind of shape of the jagged piece of wreckage of the Death Star which presumably is never gonna change over time like bits aren't gonna fall off it it's not gonna get worn down it's not in the ocean or anything yeah like it's getting hammered by waves that are like 300 feet high like every day it's gonna fall apart surely this is more stupid the more I think about it this is the big stupid moment for the film it's an ancient stiff dagger because it means the dagger has to have been made after the Death Star fell to Endor and someone went there and just like oh she went there I'm gonna ride on the dagger the location of the McMuffin is making to this thing that points to where you need to be and he took it to a Sith blacksmith to make this specific knife was there a reason it was a dagger? it's beyond it honestly is beyond it even looks like a dagger at the end when you hold it like at the fucking wreckage like insane as well like where does it even work JJ just wanted a cool McMuffin it's a mysterious Sith dagger that has the location well it seems to be in that thing we read at the beginning where it was like the son of whatever and the knife was connected to that it's probably a remnant of a different plotline it just got forced into this one that's a potential to explain it because it really comes across as just bizarre it's like what are you doing you have McMuffins that are led to McMuffins that are inscriptions read off knives I just like why this is so weird I wouldn't have thought Disney would go for this I figured they'd be like this is too weird it's so much busy work and it really feels like they were it's like the thing you would put in to pad out the length of a movie but that's like the kind of opposite of what they need here you need to streamline it there's so many other things you need to deal with I like how she just pulls it out by the way the ruler thing she has no idea why that would be the case she just yanks it out it's like oh okay this one this thing has a little bit different color oh neat yeah like as you highlighted so she happened to be standing not like there's so many ways this couldn't have worked this is kind of the point the best possible benefit of the doubt is that through the translation they knew the coordinates it took them to that specific patch of land but the thing is when they walk up to it nobody's got like a computer or anything or like a scanner it's just they just casually walk up sure I mean they just walk yeah there's so many ways it could go wrong if you could nail down the location why not just give the location of the waifinder where you have to stand where the waifinder is it's the most pointless busy work ever just like Darth Uchi what the fuck and he's like hey I thought it would be funny as you said like 20 years because remember this knife was made before Rey's parents were killed before she was left behind so that means they created this thing like 20 years ago and the rubble has not changed significantly enough to dissuade anyone from being able to match it to the knife imagine if all the time in this movie because this movie is pretty long imagine if they had spent less time on all these created arbitrary redundant plot adventures and they had spent that on characters yeah then again they would have just fucked up characters if they did that we could have done without the sandworm part entirely get rid of the healing honestly just have it be two waifinders one on Mustafar that Kylo's gunning for one on the um the old death star I hate a lot about this but just streamline it and their goal is to get to the old death star and go through it you could put a chunk of time into that and talk to each other we can discover something about the Sith also with all this other stuff stupid sandworm knives to get them from different varied locations I don't know if one of the criticisms of The Last Jedi is it was very contained and it was just in a couple of different places and it's like well I'm going to fix that by going halfway across the galaxy even in The Last Jedi there's stuff like cancer bite yeah um, someone said light skip jumping makes no sense Han in the first one criticized Luke for trying to rush light speed said he could light speed into anything so what I'm understanding from light speed skipping is that you're risking death uh when you do it but that's what you're committing to you're like I'm rolling the dice um and they get that they don't crash into anything but they also get extremely unlucky in that they manage to reach three different like significant obstacles which is very unlikely but they did astronomically unlikely and you know it makes sense I think all of us would agree that you'd want to chart it so that you don't crash into anything however if it means avoiding capture from the empire because of TLJ's tisms then yeah I guess we'll risk um a percentage chance of dying was that he was intentionally aiming for areas that he knew were going to be really dangerous when they when they dropped out of hyperspace because he was trying to cause the tie fighters to crash knowing that he was a superior pilot he could avoid these obstacles whereas they couldn't did you get that just from watching it or was there any kind of dialogue that gave that away or I don't think there was any dialogue it just seemed like a tactic I guess because it's like well we need to shake these things off because they're just going to keep pursuing us how could there be enough time to plan it though like literally jump to jump to jump hang on light speed skipping is stupid so originally right um Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Obi Wan they go and they light speed to older on which takes how long ages ages okay and so that sets up moving from one planetary system to another one through hyperspace takes a certain amount of time it's not instantaneous instantaneous nothing means anything here they're skipping between planetary systems instantly with this crap well I'll have you know that JJ made a montage that's what was happening he cut out the boring bits maybe they're very close that was real time I mean but also if you want to say that then if you want to say a montage they get the information from the slide no you can't there's a thing in the back the best thing you can say is these places happen to be very close to each other that's the best I can think of and these other planets that you can hyperspace between them these like distinctly different places are all very close to each other it's just I don't know but even hyperspacing to the outer unknown regions right that implies that this is the furthest part of you know from the galaxy and they have a space there really quickly as well yes yeah sighing is the correct reaction so just while we're on the note of Endor and you know you see the people on the horses did that remind anyone of the old Ewoks movies I haven't seen them I saw the animated one with Chief Chopa and Sunstar Moonstone have you guys not seen the old Ewoks movies I'm aware of them I haven't seen them they're based in like Star Wars universe they technically should be canon still I believe but anyway the bad guys in the second Ewoks movie they're on horses the 1985 movie I think so this is old school stuff Ewoks the battle for Endor that's the one there's the Ewok adventure in 84 Ewoks the battle for Endor in 85 yep battle for Endor that's the one they weren't space horses oh can I quickly just cut in super chat Rey knew Chewie was alive because she sensed him on Kylo's Star Destroyer could she not sense that she didn't kill him I guess not like he was literally to the right he was just to the right on a different transport by that point had the first transport that he was on not left so was he there's no way that it could have gotten further away from her than the Star Destroyer above the fucking city there's no way that's true congratulations super chat you pointed out another plot hole Rey you did it I was gonna say it's by proximity and the closer they are the easier you out of sense but if she sensed Chewie they were much closer to the trans exactly they she sensed Chewie on that Star Destroyer on the other planet yeah that ruins that defense oh boy this movie is out of garbage it's shit's fucked mate it really is yeah um carry on carry on oh no that's it I just was like hey my movie walks that was a movie I just remember the animated one it's the one that I saw when I was in so the people rock up on their space horses and they are defectors from the first order yep all of them happens to be so they're more than happy to help our team so they're all for sent to the first order like they were really surprised when that happened and now you're getting like these backstories you're right they say it's like an anomaly in the force awakens like it happens but it's very rare she says her entire company didn't do it they all put their weapons down that yep contradicting your own movie Chewie why would you do that what that's like I don't know what's that what that would indicate is that when you know Phasma's got that problem she should have been like clamping hard on that oh yeah she's like this is that shit where they they start to feel things stop it don't let it happen is it implied though that they became independent through the force again I don't know how it happened we just did it implied that that one event made them all wake up didn't she say she had a feeling she tells him she had a feeling I think that was meant to be like instinct I felt like they were implying it was the force maybe they were that's what I was thinking too she mentions that they were ordered to fire on civilians and it's maybe the first time that that had been asked of them and that was enough to push them over the edge and then they mutinied I don't know I'm almost certain every time they use the phrasing I had a feeling I'm almost certain it's supposed to be to do the force that's what I've been led to believe because the force is just that way now yeah it does anything they want it will even free stormtroopers arbitrarily the force was supposed to be special it was supposed to be like well it could have been special if Finn was force sensitive and he is that's the thing now that's an excuse to how he broke the conditioning and that started him off that doesn't mean it has to carry him every step of the way it's just that little thing that pushes him over the edge I don't know if I actually like that though that it's like oh well you know you're just going to be a mass murdering piece of shit unless you have some sort of tiny little connection to the force and then you not be able to see anyone have the force now well I'm so confused I'm very confused there should be some type of very exceptional circumstance that explains why Finn was able to break free of the conditioning otherwise if the conditioning was so unreliable the court would never be using yeah because they have millions of personnel they do they do and so they have to have a very good track record of these children they're kidnapping not breaking free of whatever brainwashing they go through to be so loyal to the first order and so they have to figure out definitively what this trilogy is saying about brainwashed stormtroopers it is so hard they go through conditioning that makes them like absolutely loyal except when it doesn't also an entire company manages to breach of it so it can't just be random it also makes the whole act of fighting stormtroopers kind of ethically dubious now I talk about that in TFA part one it's like you know Finn is this clearly innocent dude and thrust into this position and he's just like fucking cackling as he's blowing up all of his brainwashed friends who are also indentured server to people cause the way that it works with the other ones is cause with the clones it's like well they're subordinate they're not necessarily free will like they have free will to a certain extent they will turn on a dime yes so it's not so bad and with the stormtroopers it's like oh well you guys voluntarily signed up to this but then again you could have in the second film it's a matter of war that would be what people would say but in this one they're children who were abducted and brainwashed to become soldiers and they can be saved but you could also just kill them how awkward is that man that would have been great for that whole Leia thing that we talked about what a great storyline can make for Finn how emotionally distraught he would be after all of this he's the most wasted character he doesn't give a fuck absolutely wasted absolutely wasted throw away potential of a character was John Boyega not pissed at this whole thing like just feeling his character was completely underused the implication was that he had to fight for more to do in these movies yeah and he put that tweet out where he said he had no idea so many fans were disappointed with how Finn was treated in the movies wow the thing is you could do a whole sequel trilogy about this character where this guy is the main character maybe he was like he's a former storm trooper who is sort of disenfranchised or disaffected after the empire falls you change it around a little bit you could definitely have a story there but don't just have him turn on his friends and the only family he's ever known and just kill them with glee for the rest of the series it's so interesting how shallow the emotional investment is in these movies whatever you're supposed to feel about the situation changes from scene to scene they want conflicting things at the same time they want to have pseudo themes about the nature of the storm troopers but they also want their binary you can't do both you have to pick and choose what you're going to do yeah because they still want those scenes of like oh there's a bunch of bad guys in masks so you don't see their faces and we can just happily kill them they've had wildly inconsistent themes on this because in the last shed they also had the whole thing of see they're just as bad as each other but they're not though they want to build a fleet of planet destroying star destroyers that can't go up and have built in some freaking retarded planet behind a gas cloud and we're not even to like we're just passed off way so I actually I was talking to Ragswell I was writing this portion of my video so horrible choppy waters that the locals say you cannot traverse until morning Ray just does it we don't even know why she goes on her own she just does it's like okay she does this despite being a desert risen girl hey she can just operate anything it's not even about any spacecraft any vehicle just just things anything that exists what's weird to me about the scene is normally when you have like a like a scene in a movie where they go like through rough waters like they get like splashed with water and almost drowns like she's like oh no this is high like you know she doesn't know how to swim there's no way she knows how to swim I thought CLJ established that she did yeah she just do it oh yeah that's right I just fuck you but yeah you think there would be a repercussion to this like even if nothing happens to Ray like the others go out in pursuit of her and maybe they run into and she has to go back and help them but it's like no everyone just gets there anyway so I was like what's the point of mentioning that it's really choppy and dangerous good job Ray you made the right call again yeah she was right they were all wrong because they follow her on the second skimmer and they make it in fine do they tell Poe about any of this the next time we see him he's back at base like all we know about him is he was repairing the landing gear on the falcon then Finn spots the rays left without them he chases her she like abandons him to go to Arc 2 and Kylo's just standing there like what was Poe just like guys what happened thought we were going to get Mcmuffin they never seem to have radios to communicate with each other or anything like that so they just kind of go off and do their own things yeah sometimes they know what they're doing and sometimes they just don't it's just another scene they could have used for something else like developing the characters more just do the thing where you just get them on the falcon drop them off throw them out a window I don't care and then just fucking piss off and do something else yeah it's funny don't waste my time again it's maybe got that feel like in a previous edit maybe something else did happen in this but like they've had to cut it out yet again I mean I guess we had to introduce the other soldier lady whatever that doesn't matter in the movie do they name her I don't remember um she does at one point Skywalker black chick I think someone did it Naomi Aki is Janna yeah Janna okay Janna alright we did it guys just a whole company just fucking got rid of shackles the fucking order like that's kinda insane alright this is demoralizing so I googled rise of skywalk chicken told me your name so they also have the people also ask section and the second question in the people people also ask section is who was the black guy in star wars wow wait just just the entire saga who was the black guy just one guy the black guy it's Billy Dee Williams that's him for all of you who watch this you don't know so I was gonna highlight she does a lot of spelunking that seem to be short jumps short climbs like what she's used to that's fine with me and she also does the hang on she also does the going across the river thing and you can be like well she just happened to know how to direct this thing it worked out that way ever since they established that she could fucking float herself seems like there are easier ways for her to have done both of these things that's what I was gonna say exactly maybe she can only float like in hold position she can't move what she does it's easier to float in water than it is to float in air though she guides herself down in a backflip yeah she's just going down with ruins and all hang on how would she have gotten up there if she can't float up like Leia and then she erases the ladder away the feet of Psy I mean the whole point of her doing the flip is to show how she knows what she's doing yeah absolutely she knows exactly what she's doing she has such incredible skill she's like pan man have we mentioned in enough detail how all crap it is that the death star survived impact like this of course yeah of course it slipped my mind because there's just so much other shit I know absolutely ridiculous I mean it obviously blew up into nothing we saw it with our face holes I mean most of it would have been vaporized with that explosion but any chunks that were left over either would have been tiny nothing that big would have if anything that big did survive if it hit end all like that it would have destroyed the planet we're talking about huge huge sections massive chunks a moon that impact would have destroyed the whole planet well it wouldn't make a planet destroyed it would have caused such a credit it would have caused a lot of damage a tidal wave of tsunami when rays mooching around inside it there's like skeletons of stormtroopers lying in the hallways like they just dropped dead there actually guys I've got the scene from the battle I'm gonna pull it up so we can watch it we can watch it together and just see what happens alright cause there's a lot of dark implications hang on don't do that you'd fucking up discolours oh sorry oh wow it's all gone crazy and also you wanna be careful of copyright and stuff I'm sure all of us remember how the death starts just screenshot it yeah what you do is get the frame where that big chunk gets away from the rest don't forget to zap that don't forget to zoom in so you can see palpatine surf again see his little window and he's going I mean here's the main thrust of it that what I'm about to send this is all we need to just know that this is absolutely not possible just like there's no way there's no way look at that there's no way now it's fine palpatine's in there and he's alive right now oh good and the best part is you've got everybody all the heroes celebrating on end door and they were there for a little while but they never seem to recall any giant impacts these strangers from space they blew up the metal moon and it fell down and destroyed all of our tribes it's right there you can see it there's a little piece right there it would have impacted the planet with the force of a few hundred to thousand nuclear bombs sent up so much debris into the atmosphere that would cause a nuclear winter that not to mention all of the the energy cells or power things inside that thing that just who knows what kind of damage that'll do like this and you know the interesting thing with meteorites the larger the meteorite the more energy that's released on impact and so the big meteor craters you never find the meteorite that causes the bigger craters on earth because they get vaporized they literally get vaporized into nothing from the impact small ones can kind of survive because the impact isn't as devastating but the larger ones especially anything as big as the Death Star we're looking at there's no way that it would keep vaporize itself on the impact with how destructive it would be is the glass on the window still even there yeah I think there's some glass there was glass at the canopy behind the behind the seat it didn't deduct the glass out of him also how did palpatine survive landing on the planet did he take an uber or did he just crash straight in he surfed the Death Star why does everyone have trouble with this it's perfectly logical that's the force the force palpatine the force pulling to levitate it down slowly his McMuffin room is untouched as well the door still works there's power to the door and the door open no no no no and it just happens to be in the correct orientation as well it's not upside down or underwater imagine if it's underwater if that's the ocean it could be a mile underwater man, lucky it's still there is the force levitate the McMuffin oh yeah absolutely the room is filled with glass spires it's just like okay that's kind of ominous that's the thing it's his room where he keeps that whoever made the sith chair is like very much really going for that spooky aesthetic also I will say that it does remind me of so at the beginning of episode 3 is that space battle happening above Coruscant rip all the people down below after all the debris falls to the planet yeah there's the problem what you highlight in there is that they do show par that right like Anakin and Obi-Wan crash into the planet in Coruscant but the thing is it's a war the separatists attacking over Coruscant like it's not something they want also a lot of the smaller bits are probably going to burn up an atmosphere yeah but that seems like there's a lot of defenses and technology on Coruscant they might have shot them maybe of course though that's an interesting question how come the Death Star isn't like scorched from burning through the atmosphere that's sort of included in the whole how the hell did it like land and not that's destructured I mean and if anyone even tries to say that parts of the Death Star and that chunk was still operational and it was able to use thrusters or anti-gravity to throw itself down no okay don't even go there don't fucking bullshit no that's bullshit I guess that pushes us to a evil ray is like alright let's discuss gravity for just a moment evil ray attacks regular ray and she gives it a golem chase and she's got the double lightsaber it's there I'm so happy shadow I imagine this was a difficult one for you to watch with that double lightsaber right I made a video ripping apart how stupid that was and I think that's seen in there validated everything I said about it and that's why I was pleased I was smiling at it because she actually in the small exchange when she fights with Ray she actually switches the double lightsaber into the parallel configuration to try and trap Ray's lightsaber there and it is so dumb and that's exactly what I said in my video that they wouldn't have done that unless they were intending to use in that configuration which is exactly what they do and the stupidity is off the scale I was just I mean why wouldn't she just slide her lightsaber down exactly so stupid I was just trying to think of which one oh yeah sorry a couple people have been saying that they're planetary shields on Coruscant I don't remember if there's any dialogue for that in episode three but just another sort of element I guess um oh evil ray has pointy teeth because that's what I don't what is what are they doing you know what are they doing that's what the sift does if you're at the dark side it makes your teeth pointy even though Palpatine doesn't have pointy sharp teeth and Darth Vader doesn't have pointy sharp teeth well they got him filled yeah Vader wasn't a fan of the pointy sharp yeah they all got fill fillings because they didn't like it so Count Dooku just went to the dentist one day well yeah listen you bite your tongue one time with those teeth and you're getting them filled so stupid golem face I'm evil you do I look beautiful so yeah this is actually a good moment for us because we can almost skip like a good five minutes essentially it's just them fighting boom boom you want to skip how atrocious I mean I'm looking forward to your breakdown when the film comes out I honestly I would just defer to you at that point I'd be like it's bad go to him he'll sort it out like the telegraphing the amount they telegraph and wind up they hit like a baseball bat is twice as bad in this movie and then they just it gets worse the point where they are both telegraphing wildly to just smack into each other like they legitimately go to reverse grip telegraphing it's just like and with how bad it is right last year I thrown room scene the choreography was really bad but at least there was a lot of movement and there was more people involved and things like that and if you weren't paying attention it was possible to enjoy it this doesn't even have any of that it's got the choreography is as bad if not worse and then it's disjointed by big pauses in the fighting through jumping over water things and so you can't even get involved in the movement a lot because the movement gets separated so strongly and the only thing that I was like oh good this is happening is when Kylo actually wins to the point where rey is really sorry rey is really trying he's like Kylo's like you got nothing on me and it doesn't make sense because every other point rey is winning but now suddenly Kylo is dominating her and she tries to hit she hurts her hand she's like this isn't working what's wrong and Kylo is there just like you don't even try it's over now and then she cheaps it during this fight if you guys remember rey the idea is that Leia decides to do the luke thing and her goal is to I don't know fuck with this fight save rey let's just say that the weird thing though is that she walks off and starts limping and then someone has to hold her like as she's limping and it's like wait are you dying like what why and then Mads Kanata just announces what's happening it's like really bizarre just like yep it's time for her to die you're like what would this have been unused footage from when like Han Solo killed in TFA and like she was kind of distraught from that and yeah maybe because obviously the shot of her limping is from the back so yeah she just kind of stands up and then just goes to croak it just just happens out of nowhere she even lies down on a bed to do it and like luke has several conversations he like fakes it out for a while I guess she just won that powerful because all she can do is appear and then disappear and we don't even see her she's wasn't very good unfortunate even though they have that weird moment with luke where he's just like yeah I totally trade leia by the way he like what and she beat him in a fucking lightsaber jew as well that was weird yeah what the fuck is there anyone he hasn't looked to himself did he fight evil luke at some point did the evil luke have shop teeth I don't know ah Berg yeah so I'll the better for eating porgs with Leia does that and kylo like turns around to see her and he drops his lightsaber so the assumption there I guess is that he knows she's dead yeah and ray realizes it later like she doesn't realize at the same time for some reason and so she takes this opportunity it just doesn't even seem in character to me like why would she she's about to be killed then the guy like you know stops the lightsaber and drops it and she sees that as like a ha I will kill you now like I can counter that move like what are you doing that he clearly is not killing you you're kind of just being a dick honestly and then yeah and then she realizes apparently you knew they couldn't do it that she knew Leia died and then she kills him anyway that would have been like wow that's so they have it realized immediately after and then she the idea that he knows but she doesn't is baffles me well I mean it's obviously his mother so I guess he's got that stronger connection to her but hasn't the whole all these movies but try to imply that her and Leia super close like they haven't earned it but they keeps like pushing that shits fucked yo yeah I'm yeah I'm trying to figure out if her motivations again because it is within her character to pause because she is so pure that you know if your enemy isn't fighting you well then maybe not but at the same time she clearly is wanted to kill him for a while ever since Han and stuff and this is her opportunity and she seemingly takes it and so she's flip-flopping all over the place and it's very difficult to go she didn't take the opportunity in the other two films so remember she said several ups to kill him and the one time he doesn't he chooses not to kill her and drops his weapon like that's when she goes guns for it like and grabs his weapon she does it in a way that implies she's doing a counter like to a move he made you know I think defenders will say that she was so frustrated in you know being beaten in the fight that she was very emotional and didn't really realize that what she was she just wanted to win and she only then realized that oh I shouldn't have killed him he was he was stopping he might have been I might have been able to talk to him after she did it and then that's why she heals him magically fair enough I think that defense holds up enough you know I just thought it was a cheap shot as hell but I went well I want you to look at that if you've got a moment there I think that's kind of kind of interesting upload failed well we'll just try that one more time because that's knuck and futz you've made me interested now what are you doing I'm trying I've tasted it and it's processing on discord and it's having a schism yeah see it should should work out alright there you go man I can take that shit and smoke it to the bank or whatever oh one okay some lighthearted non-spoiler thoughts on race in the last skywalker oh my god then finding Janna a fellow black decolonized formerly colonized imperial subject who got woke revives my 2014 guardian essay in which I theorized all stormtroopers of black guardian what a surprise shit like this comes from the guardian thank you so much for posting this that I'm sorry hang on quick thing to test this when is it Janna or whoever it is rides up on her horses do we see any of the other people with her I'm sure we do I just have to he had a white friend someone or something no there was clearly a white guy with her right well that's debunked yeah it's stupid there's clearly people in the board store who are white like hucks general pride like all of these they're officers yeah okay so they but there are also officers who are black so are they just like the really like wait I know I got it I got it phasma phasma is white there you go but she's a woman because she's a minority probably say that they be like yeah but women don't count you're like what not anymore all the stormtroopers are black yep all right sure that makes sense so she heals up Kylo and it doesn't cost her a thing Kylo was on the brink of death he wasn't dead granted but that was a wound that was he was going to die from it and she heals him without any problem at all no issue easy peasy lemon squeezy also found it kind of weird how she's grabbing the ship like before she's about to zap it with her zappy lightning he's grabbing the ship and she's reacting like she's getting her tetanus shot yes she just she just oh she never has any problems at all with what she's doing she then says I wanted to take your hand Ben's hand um why do you keep hanging on the idea that this guy is a good man I just don't get where it comes from did she cause she's trying to make a distinction between Kylo Ren and Ben solo did she know anything about him as Ben solo no other than Luke trained him and Luke kind of failed him no no no she's seen him without a top on so that was enough well yeah oh by the way she like defeats him and she just runs in a line to the other way and just gets into his ship apparently they the way they fought they ended up right next to his ship also he left and he came from the opposite direction so he got out of his ship and then somehow circled around behind her hey was he smart what the fuck I understand the jokers we have this one it's all got gray room powers um which I think it pushes us to like right to the end of act 2 which is Leia's dad Chewie's sad everybody's sad and uh whenever anyone is pointing out anything that made them feel something it's when Chewie reacts to Leia's death and there's nothing to do with these films no well it's so sudden it's like people expected her to die too nobody seems to really ask what happened to her yeah we don't get much of anything in terms of like conversation or discussion about even what happened they're like well how'd she die hey did you address Moola that you know she died so easily with that projection she wasn't very good at it she just wasn't good at it you know she over forced and um over forced she seemed to be dying before she even did it when you force too much in Star Wars now it kills you the force which is the thing that binds all living things together is one of the sources of life doing it too much getting too much of that in you the force will kill you we've got a whole pattern Luke Leia and Kylo all die from using the force there's such a massive resource cost to doing things like that and yet Ray doing force healing costs absolutely nothing it's uh it's so brilliantly inconsistent it is like first time lightning no problem right so Ray and Kylo are talking to each other across vast differences and they are both seeing each other as a projection of self to a point where they can actually teleport items without any problem at all that's not even doesn't make a cost yeah but but for Luke to do something that is considerably less impressive he he's not projecting anything physical nothing physical he's making an illusion of himself across the same distances that kills him but Ray and Kylo not not a problem physical objects they can move physical objects across a lightsaber too is like shit man being able to teleport lightsabers to people fucking now gank ships and heal wounds no feeling that could be useful then again only snow can do that for them you know the thing that can be mass produced in a test tube we suck just that there are no set like no rules it's all inconsistent bull crap now is like the force will kill you because we want you to die at this point but whenever you do anything else that isn't you that sometimes using more power than what's killing these other people yeah you're fine it's so like no wonder there's no like any type of suspense in this you're not invested in it at all because there's nothing telling you that oh this is going to be dangerous be worried because the force could just do bull crap why so plague creation asks he said teleport the fleet and I'm like yeah palpatine should have that palpatine isn't necessarily even need to he's just really stupid like he could just have them go up that's everyone and hyperspace in whichever directions they need to go but he just doesn't do that I mean why just take out the middleman just have him be there yeah I mean he could do that too I don't know nobody does do it I mean it's the force I'm sorry to announce the next scene is when Han Solo pops in that's it I almost burst off laughing how much did they have to pay Harrison Ford to get him in for that that must have taken a lot maybe they recorded it in TFA they just used like unused shit yeah yeah he's just a memory so any criticism of what he says can't necessarily be fulfilled because it's all from Kylo's head let's see this is the problem if Kylo legitimately believes this is a memory okay yet Han tells him something that to have the true emotional impact it has on Kylo it needed to have come from the real Han okay when he goes dad and he goes I know or it was basically going to say sorry like I'm so sorry and you know how to say it's basically saying I forgive you okay Kylo can't do that for himself he can't imagine his father forgiving him okay it has to come from the real Han for Kylo to actually properly accept it otherwise it is utter bull crap yeah he's just apologizing to himself well I was about to say if Kylo Kylo told you about this he's like yeah Han kind of forgave me it's like what do you mean like a force ghost he goes no like a memory you'd be like what are you talking about I just imagined my own perfect version where he's just giving me for everything I imagine if like Han was a force ghost watching this exchange it's like I'm sorry son no you stabbed me through the chest when I tried to do this the first time you're not getting it now he's like I was pretty nice to you and you killed me so hmm with the idea with with establishing in the opening of this movie establishing that Palpatine is every voice in his head and he's been messing around with his mom stuff when Han's solo shows up Kylo just accepts this without question yeah Palpatine this is definitely for real and it is the scene to push Kylo to be a Goodman as well and it came from his own memory I'm a good boy now how meaningless and you know why by the way is because he couldn't be a force ghost that just fucks everything up so JJ's like it came from his memory it's like but then that's equally meaningless it's himself telling himself he's a Goodman that's just like oh okay like how does he is there anything else about that the balls anybody it's just it's just so fucked up it's just so fucked well yeah it's a very big cop out narrative wise you know to need a conversation someone's dead will just you know have a memory or and they and they can't really because like say with Harry Potter when Harry Potter is talking with Dumbledore on his side that's actually implied that this is Dumbledore's spirit in the afterlife okay like that whereas with Star Wars the only afterlife ever really implied is force ghosts and if there is an afterlife it's only force ghosts and so they because of the the actual canon that exists they can't do the Dumbledore thing and that has to be a memory which again just robs it all from any validity so so it makes you wonder was Han a force ghost of a kind was he like was he really there was that actually Han spirit or was Kylo just talking to himself so the way that it's portrayed it doesn't look like a force ghost is they're all blue and glowy doesn't look like I don't think he was a force no he's portrayed as if he's actually standing there there's no blue stuff or anything right so he must have been an apparition and doesn't doesn't Kylo say you just a memory and then he says your memory yeah so he's probably a memory not a force ghost which is fine which is okay you're just talking to yourself telling yourself they lose both ways one way it breaks everything the other way is meaningless yeah you're just yeah you're talking to yourself you're telling yourself if anything he's a psycho he's just like yeah I'm telling the things I want to hear in my father's world imagine watching that happening in real time he's just talking to nobody while standing there well the awkward thing is right that he he's he got he gets a lift from there to Exegol so it's like who did he get that from did he did you just go hey first order pick me up I'm not kind of with you guys anymore but I need a ship he lands on Exegol in a regular tie fight yeah which means you had he had to have appealed to the first order right you're like I need a ship and then they would have been like where you going boss and he's like just don't ask me I'm just a friendlier don't question me wait where's your helmet I dropped it in the ocean don't ask me I dropped that in the ocean too the game real life it was so fucking stupid yeah he just doesn't cut scene we just finds a tie fighter on the death star it's probably right if you was actually I'm done with it all right like no more Jedi no dark light side again again and he throws it away that would make sense but he throws the lightsaber away to then go and fight someone yeah yeah like you might as well keep it yeah it is it would have died if Rey didn't teleport the lightsaber to him he would have died yeah so someone suggested working tie fighter from the death star I think it's a bit of a leap that there's a working tie fighter in that death star there is a steeper race walking through it and you do see a couple of like wrecked looking ones like kind of in their housing so I don't know maybe there's some intact ones lying about all right I mean I don't actually I don't think it's a problem that he could actually just go hey first order on your ship like yeah there's no reason why they wouldn't give one to him and he could just be like yeah I'm totally on your team wink wink then we then we get the scene where for some reason Palpatine is like come to Exegol with all of the first order ships and joined me it's like why yeah haven't they got more important things to be doing like what you know keeping the galaxy in line the weird thing is that so pride goes with I guess a portion of the first order to Exegol while several ships from Exegol go to several planets including Bespin Endor and Kojimi hey are you sure I thought it was only one ship that came to Exegol and one ship that left it's definitely more than one that left because there's one over Endor in there is there? yeah yeah the the the Ewoks are looking at the star destroyer I thought that was all first order I thought it was just a regular one yeah I thought it was all first order getting destroyed at the end oh didn't they have the cannons? I thought that was the threat no because I thought that the only reason they can destroy them is because they knew the weakness of if you destroy the cannon destroys the whole ship yeah I mean that's what it shows if they were there why the hell didn't they just destroy all the planets well that was actually going to be an issue it's like how could you be in range to destroy a death star that's why I assumed yeah that's why I assumed them to be first order ships but surely no one would be dumb enough to have the planet destroying ships just floating above these planets while the galaxy just unifies against them to fight and they just decide oh that's not destroyed it doesn't matter if you win the battle you're going to come back home and no home pretty awkward I'll have a look now just to check but there is an interesting idea that that means that the one that killed Kojimi that's still out there right yes remember at the end of the movie the implication is that they're all everyone rebels but the thing is Kojimi's gone though yeah and we were just talking about that the idea that they're destroying these death stars I'm looking at it now you can't tell if these are ones with planet destroying gear or not one's over Jakku by the way so you got Jakku and Kojimi so is it just the first order is just being wiped out you really ripen Pandora's box by putting these ships out there what if people salvage the cannons well no we don't even know if these are the ones with the cannons I don't know no because I was pretty sure no one left yeah there's only one out there but even that one is a big problem because that is a death star and remember it's above atmosphere which means it gets shields it gets shields they have man just what rules remain like what if they not fucked what is left in terms of us understanding things so many elements just keep getting fucked with so okay so best benefit of the doubt in order to actually contain this Pride leaves the first order fleet to go to Exigol Exigol sends one ship out to go destroy Kojimi the first order is wiped out at the end because the galaxy rebel yes that's the best way pretty much and yet it still leaves that one death star thousands of personnel death star star destroyer death star destroyer they could just hyper jump planet to planet destroying each one with that contest every planet that had rebels on it yeah they seem to be able to fire it's always asking by the way the death star had this enormous reactor the star killer base had this enormous sun what do these things need for power oh just a little gun just a little gun at the bottom just a little gun at the bottom but you're right they should not be out exist it's the biggest stupid convoluted change in the technology of this universe damn beyond belief Palpatine why would you only send the one away send a lot of them yeah as a contingency right away there's nothing holding him back you have enough star destroyers to place them like one per solar system and practically have a gun to the head of the galaxy maybe that was all the elite crew members who understood which way was up were put onto that ship so they could get out like whoa we sent her best already when I heard the leaks about the star destroyers all having death star capability I didn't believe it at first I thought it was just so stupid like it would ruin everything if they did this and they did it and because they did it again it ruined everything it screws up so much and they tried to make their convoluted bullcrap that they can't leave the planet Palpatine could have sent them out at any time even with the navigation bullcrap to send it because of some dumb time limit well you can totally see the thought process behind it the way it's like well we had the death stars in the original trilogy and we've already done an even bigger death star in the force awakens so what's left let's be clear here we need some kind of threat you have all these death stars right you're Palpatine it's obvious to me that this is the ultimate bargaining tool to get whatever you want because tell everyone above to surrender or else I'm gonna blow up this planet I'm just gonna blow up this planet like boom surrender immediately or it's just done and I'm just gonna keep blowing up planets until you all surrender yeah like that's insane that you didn't have these things sent out just waiting to move into position why do you need that many to be so close together at this one place and you know what the answer is well they didn't know how to go up I'm also like well that one did that got to Kajimi yeah that one did Rax that's a different story okay I really do feel like the emperor hasn't considered how much this is gonna cost him though when he reinstates his empire how's it gonna pay for these crews and maintenance and everything and keep the ball alive they're clones they're clones they're clones that don't need food if you lose one ship you're in serious danger of losing your empire if you lose track of one ship you're in big trouble true you know how it was like a miracle that the cold didn't end in a nuclear explosion this is like that but 70,000 times is risky exactly and that was only two countries with nukes on one planet this is intergalactic planet destruction times 10,000 like where do you go from here how will you ever make another Star Wars movie that's just the even one at retcon get it it's all garbage remove it all oh absolutely yeah it's irredeemable it is irredeemable all prequels from here on if they tried to make it based off of this canon there is no way for it to be good because anything they do you can just say why didn't they do this with their death star technology why didn't the force do this you're going to have any investment in the conflict or anything that's based off this is crap you gotta like go a thousand years in the future or some shit the timeline of Star Wars allows just go go forward a thousand years man saga like maybe one or two references just the old if you really have to connect it but only like just literally just one name or two names and the whole thing just to show that it's after that stuff like a thousand years ago the defeat of the empire and the reinstation of something just really just if you gotta make a reference just super quick and then get out of the way then never again it's new it's a new galaxy in terms of timeline new people completely new factions it's just gotta gotta move forward gotta just get out of here because you fucked it all abandon ship get on a new one the next I guess key point would be Luke grabbing the lightsaber yeah oh no making a situation of what was established in the last Jedi before we go into that guys I think probably what I'm going to do is sign off now I reckon I would like to continue this this rant with you but I'm kind of out of time here unfortunately so you only had six hours free at this point I feel like I'm half-assed this one man wow it's hard to say that I am impressed not a true longman yeah I'm still learning how far are you now you're doing part two currently making it how many parts do you think you'll have as a total I'm hoping it'll just be two so part two will probably be 25 maybe 30 minutes yeah it's a bit lopsided but that should cover it I don't really want to split it into three parts because I kind of just want to get it done before Christmas yeah that makes sense that's the plan so far yeah I'll finish writing it tomorrow and get it recorded and then it's just editing thanks for coming on for so long do you want to plug your channel quickly get them invested do it so I'm the critical drinker review reviews I'm currently working on my review of the rise of skywalker and it's a two parter so I've done the first one and had a good rant about some of the many problems with it as you can see from this stream tonight there is a lot that you can't touch on there's just too much but I'm doing my best so that's what I'm doing at the moments hey drinker before you leave which character do you pick as the most inconsistent one because we need to remember your question um I'd probably say Hux just because the way that character is fluctuated throughout the three movies has just been ridiculous yeah man whoever picked him from the get go man they had foresight well yeah sure if the question was who's the most inconsistent across the three movies well it depends what you mean by inconsistent isn't it well we can't I was going to say he wants to leave so he's okay there's a debate on that after this yeah we'll definitely do that but his vote is Hux that's all good because what we'll do is we'll make a straw poll for the audience once we've discussed it and we'll see what everyone thinks alright nice one alright well enjoy yourselves gentlemen good sir remainder of the stream yes thank you for joining us and we'll catch you later man in the future later yeah yeah um alright so yeah we did mention like Luke catching that lightsaber is so many levels of stupid now a continuation of what TLJ established is the new force ghost they physically manipulate objects of the environment around them and they could summon lightning and they can lift X-wings out of the water I want to talk about the X-wing thing because we already we did do you know detailed rant against the force ghost stuff and that it isn't said that it's the island or the planet that does it in the movies at all and so it just means everything is screwed okay um and then sorry Luke right that's what the next is his dig against his portrayal in last jedi or he just flat out says yeah I was wrong and what about his line right when he catches the lightsaber and he says jedi should not you should treat uh jedi's weapon with more respect I think yeah that's such a fight middle finger to Ryan Johnson it's a downright slap just uh wow they because they hit me cause I was expecting TLJ retcons but not blatant ones that are almost reaching out of the screen I was like wow and uh you know having him be like I came here like you did he was like that was a mistake I love how the Star Wars franchise has just become the collateral damage battleground for to wave their dicks at each other no my ideas better no my ideas better and yeah he his rousing speech is go kill Palpatine just go kill Palpatine you know what yes you're a Palpatine but it's not about your blood you must face him go kill Palpatine such a weird like it just feels wrong in some way I guess just like go hunt down a bit of that piece of shit you're like alright well it's almost like if you don't then countless lives will be lost darkness will cover the galaxy you have to stop there are ways to phrase that are just less um vindictive or darksidey or strange like do it because you have to or else you know he's an evil that that has to be vanquished or else you know terrible things will happen this is what a Jedi protects the piece of the galaxy something like that um and so yeah fuck him up it's kind of weird because I've noticed this in my script I don't know if anyone else thought like thought this was weird but um he says that he was training Leia right up until she had a vision that if she continued her Jedi journey that her son would die so she placed down her lightsaber she stopped her journey waiting for someone to come along and finish her journey that's what Luke says by the way no no no no no hang on this is really important I just he says her journey is going to end in her son dying that's why she stopped it was it dying or turning to the dying world no dying like wait your son that I'm training no so the what I'm trying to highlight here is that Leia wanted to not continue this journey because she doesn't want her son to die but then he immediately says afterwards she was waiting for someone to finish her journey meaning Rey she's like I don't want my son to die I want someone else to result in but it's so bizarre as a piece of dialogue I was like what are you saying like you don't want to be the one that kills him you want someone else to be the one that finishes your journey resulting in his death it's I got nothing me neither was she did she have a forest premonition well no I'm fine with the idea that she has a vision where Ben dies and it puts her off wanting to be a Jedi I'm like I understand that because she said that her journey will result in that that's why she stopped being a Jedi that's why she gave up her lightsaber well no but she specifically says she wants someone to take up the journey that she left behind that resulted in her son dying I don't understand like why would she want someone to continue that journey sounds like the kind of journey you want to discourage anyone from completing and if you're okay with someone continuing it why didn't you continue it exactly pussy like it sounds like garbage writing to just sound like sort of it's cryptic but empty but then you listen to it you're like hang on a minute you just said you want someone to kill Kylo or Ben yeah go ahead I was saying like man she kicks Luke's ass like yeah everyone's doing that these days I guess they have desecrated Luke's character and this movie puts a disrespectful horrible nail in the coffin of that which is related to the very next thing that Luke does he raises the X-wing out of the water and it's still bloody words this was a point in which I got more angry than any other point in my review and only since do I really understand why because that means in the previous movie Luke chose to commit suicide exactly he could have done the crate but he didn't exactly if that shit worked he could have gone physically and actually done something more substantial but instead it is now canon by this movie decides to give up and commit suicide that is the ultimate statement against one of the most beloved characters in all of fiction it is so flip and annoying I can't express I could save my sister I could save the resistance I could confront Kylo who I should want to after all of these years I could do all this stuff but nah I'm just gonna create a mild distraction and die from here exactly the only defence against that implication was that he had no other choice because he was stranded there the ship didn't work if the ship didn't work then maybe the only thing he could have done was force project himself to try and do something to save him and it still is crap because it took him way too long to come to his senses to try and help out and he didn't catch a ride with Rey when she left and so it's still crap the only redeeming thing was is that he tried whatever he could do and the defence was that the ship was broken now that defence is just destroyed out of the water literally all damn time we covered a video on a previous eFap that said that that ship was waterlogged and so he couldn't have used it exactly well didn't they try to backtrack on the whole state of die thing and said he was searching for something instead but he explicitly says McMuffin to track down the Sith he explicitly says he came there to die yeah but then in this movie he said they were searching for something and that's what the Jedi texts were they were puzzle pieces to finding the McMuffin to find Palpatine again right? yeah right but he gave up he was searching for it he found Uchi's ship and then he just went oh fuck it there's a droid in here should I turn it on? draw my line in what this sequel series has done to Luke's character and especially with the confirmation of this movie is beyond the pale for me I can't believe it Luke as a character because of these movies and if you were just to try and judge his character now is an absolute pathetic you know coward he just committed suicide and I'm even expressive I mean what a trilogy right? like look at back she's like wow you guys nailed it you did such a great job man you did such a great job you just you went around the horn from doing a great job into like going out of your way to fuck it up and all of the ways it could have possibly we did talk about that I use the term surgical this is very much deliberate and expert ways of destroying everything we liked about the OT good job if that was your goal of course I mean so Luke his moral standard his hopefulness was utterly destroyed he was emasculated on screen by getting his butt kicked by you know this upstart who has had no training so it's like and then she steals his name at the end it's like they tried to destroy his character on every level it's just it's like I'm the real Skywalker oh you know what happens immediately after that scene by the way C-3PO comes back gets his memory back yeah hello I'm back yep just like okay that was pointless like did you even bend that yeah and then nobody's like oh cool he does have his memory back nobody cared okay like Ray Finn and Poe who were there almost awkward about it was like they don't give a fuck nobody recognizes it at all it was really fucked up he describes that's kind of a terrible thing he describes them as his friends and he does this to help them like he considers it killing himself and they just don't give a fuck um but yeah of course Dio has provided the information about Exegol and on her way there Ray gives them the specific coordinates on how to traverse the evil space cancer which by the way on the sort of like image that um Poe sees I'll try and get this for you now actually the space cancer is a hell of a lot bigger than they portray it in the actual um if you look at that the red is the space cancer and the planet is to the left okay so like the space cancer does not do that it doesn't engulf like the majority of Exegol yeah so I don't know it's just like maybe when the CGI people did that they were like yeah this makes sense because obviously otherwise you could just you know well you say that but have you considered the force well you know even if it was that big you can still go up and around it assuming it's not it has to engulf the entire planet that's the only way you can make this work yeah um and so they construct their plan they're going to take what little fleet they have to support Rey or at least follow her in um they're going to send Lando and Chewie to the core planets and ask them for help that's like that's it for reinforcements don't send like messages don't broadcast don't wait just run in because they're gonna do it and they're gonna hope that they get helped um even though they've pretty much established that without backup they're fucked yeah if I if that was me I'd be like man they didn't come last time I feel like they'd have even triply less of a reason this time to come and help us out with all these death stars you know why would they come somebody brings up a good point is it D0 or DIO I imagine it's D0 well it's DO yeah it sounded like DO like it's me Dio yeah I'm not saying Dio when I say Dio um just D-dash-o as far as I know yeah anyway the they come up with their plan based on what they know about Exigol from Dio so that is star destroyers cannot activate shields below atmosphere or in atmosphere so that's a pretty useful little tidbit about that now I guess um which gives you a bit of an advantage a second piece of information they cannot navigate out there without a tower a navigation tower if you destroy the navigation tower well they're all sitting ducks and then the final the third piece of information that just brings all this together is if you shoot their cannons it'll blow up the entire star destroyer so when you know those three things which are all insane you actually have a fight in chance yeah but it's like if they knew that from the beginning how come they didn't start by blowing up all the cannons because they established that one ship can shoot it for like a second and the whole thing blows up um they should definitely have like so they want to stop them from escaping I understand that but yeah it does seem to be that their only concern is stopping the tower and then blowing them up when it should be that they have a whole bunch of fires just immediately starting to blow them up especially for the fact that they're all so close to each other like the collateral would be helpful yeah man I think that'd be insane chain reaction kind of material obviously as well how the Y-wing just like shoots it for a second and the whole thing blows up sorry a what wing I don't know most people haven't heard of them Y-wing and for their distinctive I don't know that one yeah it confirms in the Star Wars canon that Latin letters exist the Y-wing yeah I don't know it's like it's a Y shape thing sometimes they're used as bombers I asked everybody and they said they mostly don't know ah that's a shame that's a shame yeah we got a wonderful line possibly my favorite the whole film we should do some real damage how about some holdover doovas wow that's like one in a million everybody knows that what in a million what what's the rent we did point out that is contradicted in the end of the movie where you see someone doing the holdover yeah but that was just a million people tried but that was the one that I don't know a million people tried I'm trying to wonder with the one in the million thing like what would go wrong because it's really really like ramming someone really basic just driving your car into another car it'd be like you wouldn't say the chances of you hitting it are one in a million you wouldn't even say one in a hundred you'd just be like yeah it's kind of binary I'd be like oh god why I guess the thing is like what happens those 999,000 times do you just smash into it do you just go into hyperspace and not die it's like the ship does that little that little dodge right before it hits you and you go past it there's no way you can get around it no matter how you've done it you've done something wrong here the fact that it's even a maneuver that's possible is just you can't fix it well yeah riot dipped his head in the cookie jar JJ's like cut his head off by putting the thing stop it people are saying one in 1.2 billion chance of it happening oh man wow yeah so that's just like the worst possible way just say oh now it's one in a million those are four established sort of rules in order for JJ to generate our final battle like you cannot use hyperspace kamikaze no reason you just can't you're like okay there's no shields on the enemies so despite the fact that there's thousands of them or whatever we can still shoot at them cool they have a weakness that's so obvious and insane that it actually makes it pretty easy to kill them they're all about as good as a tie fighter you're like alright they can't escape the planet you're like what how stupid is this enemy team and you know even then even then the rebels and the galactic alliance whatever should have gotten their absolute butts handed to them cause all these ships needed to do was use their main cannon once each and they would have destroyed everyone they do not use their big world destruction cannon even once cause the thing is it was established in return of the Jedi the death star can be used to blow up ships yeah it blows up the Mon Calamari cruiser there's no defense at all against it one shot honestly I don't even think they need it they kind of lie to us they all arrive right our good guys and all of the star destroyers start launching lasers at them there's like thousands of green lasers and Poe's like whoa and gets out of it's like no no you're all gone it doesn't work because in all of the battles that we've seen in space before between fleets what we see yeah we see fleets we have big ships cruisers star destroyers on both sides and then their own but in this one they're all small ships there are no cruisers not that I could see so it's not even it's not even at all it would be like if you had a battle where a bunch of people in row boats were fighting against you know aircraft carriers it's just not balanced it's kind of how many of you there are like there's no way unless you can try that you can shoot the cannon and blow it up like independent states there's not even that many of them and they last for ages the good guys like before the reinforcements arrive like how do they last this long yeah it's insane are there any tie fighters there are tie fighters right not just star destroyers oh yeah a lot of them how could you possibly survive for more than it I thought they all know how to shoot a thousand star cannons just in your gun you did notice the tie fighters had a different design they had like arrow wings instead of what are they octagonal or hexagonal they were little vaderships but they were mass produced now oh you don't know yeah yeah yes very special one oh in case I think like one or two people thought I actually didn't know what a y-wing was it's a reference no seriously what is that so I guess it's kind of like I just kind of want to split this into two we could talk about the battle portion and then the palpatine portion so I guess we'll do battle portion first they immediately go to knock out the navigation tower they have to deliver a transport down there okay that's the plan they are being assaulted I first thought that their plan was just to destroy the tower just by shooting at it and that seemed perfect logical and then they needed it suddenly oh no now the navigation thing is on the star destroyer let's do a ground assault and I was like they pull a ground assault out of their butts in my second viewing no they planned a ground assault even against the navigation at the beginning with there's no shields there's no shields there's no shields there's no point for a ground assault except for having a shot of horses running against it but there's no reason why they needed to use horses instead of like flying in and blowing it up there's no reason also what that means is that all of those people they met they brought their fucking horses with them how'd they get them before they leave they say like what's our plan for the ground assault and Finn like looks at her and he says I got a plan for that that's his plan to have horses why because he thought it would be a cool shot and then they're like oh no let's just have the horses ride on top of a star destroyer and instead of having him just like tilt 15 degrees even 15 degrees and just have them all fall off and die at the end of the mission just stay still and deploy your own soldiers on top of the star destroyer to fight the horse people that's a BBA just faster than all of the horses yeah BBA is much faster than the horses fucking fast the white people will defend the horses on the star destroyer that tipping it over wouldn't knock them off because they would have been caught in the star destroyer's artificial gravity and just turning it around meant that they would still be pulled literally it is okay I'll just clarify this for you you make an announcement on the star destroyer we are about to lose everything we are turning off artificial gravity and we are spinning this bitch if you don't hang on to something hold on but you know what capital stated but sir which way's up spin just spin how do I spin hold right for fuck's sake Frank it's right any direction I don't know man I'm nervous it's my first day God we gotta put some pressure on me shitty first day stupid have a ground team for it but it gets stupider because pride being so very intelligent notices they're gonna destroy it deactivate the tower on my ship which we've been over why would you put a tower on every ship if you're building it on a planet that doesn't allow things to leave unless they have towers on their ships what if you, yeah one just needs to go to some place it's all or nothing I guess so they deployed troopers though so apparently they did have the foresight to destroy it wait a minute hold on so you know how Ray transmitted the part she took to get through the thing and that's how all the rebels the resistance that's how they all got through is there any reason why you couldn't just draw a map and give it to each of the ships like a physical map or a digital map instead of having a transmitter because it seems to be a path that's set because otherwise how could Ray broadcast something that's useful to them I don't even think they needed a broadcast tower to do it themselves all they needed was the coordinates because in relation to the navigation tower or just to to get through the gas cloud is there any reason why they because that's what I thought the navigation tower was for to get through the gas cloud no no the navigation was just to leave the planet I thought wow what honestly man I don't think Star Destroyer can fit through the space cancer yeah I assumed it was to just like get out of the atmosphere atmosphere and then they just hyperspace off in any of the other clear directions so either way it doesn't work it's all stupid it's just beyond stupid so yeah just to continue right so they deactivate the ground tower our team decides nah we don't need to destroy that tower because they clearly activate a different one in fact it's that one on pride ship now you could have had finn go like you can tell from the design that that one's got a tower it's the leading ship blah blah blah instead he just goes I've got a feeling I've got a feeling look that tower looks just like the one down below it must be emitting the same signal or something but no I've got a feeling I've got a feeling with other things usually there was a cause to get the feeling like when Vader sensed Obi-Wan's presence on the Death Star they had a lot of history so it makes sense that he would sense the presence of the dagger the dagger killed her parents okay there's a lot of evil around it it can make a bit more sense that she could sense the dagger why on earth can finn sense that the broadcast tower is on that ship that's just again the force doing whatever the hole they want in the plot now I want to highlight as well that it's lucky they decided to go with horses because if they had gone with speeders they would have been screwed because there's this line where pride says jab their speeders because we can't, sir they're not using speeders I didn't know you could jab speeders I didn't either and I thought I'd miss something but I'm so glad you brought that up cause now I'm not honestly, yep they could have just landed their landing craft closer to the tower why didn't they land them closer to the tower why didn't they just shoot them with their spaceships you have about 20 resistance members pouring out right? and then you've got like 100 Sith troopers or whatever it's like they're already dead, they're fucked sorry, it's a numbers game all you are are people with guns and what would have happened if their transport blew up what was plan B if like a tie fighter blew up the transport it's like oh game over, I guess and like we have to ignore all of these things in order to have their moment where they drop the grenades down this hole and it blows up the tower you guys remember that, right? what does they do in response? I was in the cinema thinking ah all the first order to do now is reactivate the ground tower that's the obvious thing to do the ground tower is never mentioned again so that's dumb instead, he's like get the tower back online and then they're like sir we have to reset our systems and then fit is like look they're powering down their cannons they're resetting the s- how do you reset a tower that's been exploded how does that work and Finn is like well they reset now we got to destroy the whole star destroyer just like oh you mean just shoot the bottom of it or whatever and explode it does this one not have a super cannon attached to it is that why it's harder to take it down I guess I like how they made no effort to conceal the most important ship in their fleet I like that they put no effort into concealing that how close does it have to be to them to get the station signal could they not just push it really far like over the other side of the planet would that work does this still transmit at that point I don't know I think what they were trying to do is their numbers were going to mask which one was the real ship that transmits but then pose like I got forced now it's that one it's pretty bad it's really bad isn't it but yeah they I guess it's kind of hard to sort of figure out in terms of like linearity we should actually approach next but rated up to Palpatine he reveals to her the plan all along was to have her kill him so he could inhabit her body with all of the Sith and be victorious and she could leave his Emperor and that makes no sense because he legitimately sent Carla out to kill her I think that was part of his master plan what if he kills himself while she's standing there what happens then well just commit seppuku can he then like can his Sith spirit just jump into her at that point is like why not just do that yeah there are rules wait no no there isn't that's what he's desperate for her to do and it's implied by this film that if she does that she's lost it's like okay just fucking kill yourself have your Sith spirit jump into her right like why not I guess yeah yeah nah nah the whole ceremonial thing as well is like nah she takes the lightsaber and she does it's like what are you doing it's kind of like Snoke when Snoke was like and he kills his and obey yeah and all those just creatures like oh they make a lot of noise those dudes fuck are they they're chanting something like that in the background you have no idea where they came from what they're doing is there so Kylo shows up and he didn't bring his weapons so he gets like owned straight away then why didn't he bring his weapon because he threw it into the ocean but he did bring a blaster with him does he get the blaster after he beats them with the gun sorry he runs in there and shoots like three or four people and that's before he runs into the Knights of Wren and I can't remember what happens to it after that if he's got this arm I will keep a look out for it as I'm seeing the events transpire but um yeah like he's in a position where he can't do anything and she provides that it's kind of weird she like holds it at the back of her head and it appears at the back of his head almost like they're standing in the same position in terms of for Skype which doesn't actually follow from what we've seen of it before right that's not how that works yeah they had to reach and touch one another from their projection like why would he stand like this like he doesn't have anything to grab there it's like oh I'll get you back oh shit nice a lightsaber well the only way it's implied that they well if Ray was standing in the projection back to back to Kylo and she can't find her back that's what I was about to say yeah they must have skated back to back man that coordination uh yeah do you like as well how how the girl just says like I'm staying with you Finn when he's like I'm gonna destroy this ship but I'm just like you could easily have had that be Rose JJ just didn't yeah there was not a peep of Rose I did get the distinct impression he just wanted to get rid of Rose yeah but I guess no one liked her as a character sorry yeah but I mean well as I said TLJ lovers they loved everything about TLJ included her so oh yeah wasn't it Quinton that was like I want to applaud them for putting an Asian in or something yeah and if you don't like her you're a bad racist or that anyone who doesn't like it is a bad racist yeah well he said like if you don't like Asian casting then you can fuck off that sort of thing but obviously ignoring the actual criticisms of the character there's nothing to do with the fact that she's Asian exactly there's nothing to do with that she was Asian it was actually a horrible character most people said that they actually liked her sister like sister seemed stronger just like I think it's because of the fact she sacrificed for someone so it just made it more respectable yep but uh oh fuck I almost skipped over Shad did you enjoy the bow and arrow taked out of a tie fighter was that a tie fighter or a guy on a jetpack oh was it a guy on a jetpack I don't know either way it's it's a bow and arrow it's like what are you doing whole guy is in Star Wars now nice alright I'm seeing the thing because you're right he shoots a couple people then he sees the Knights of Ren where's your gun Kylo I'm keeping an eye on it oh it's gone it's just gone oh really well at least on the wide shot we're about to get the tight shot now and I'm going to see if he just gets it kicked out of his hand or something but I don't think he has it yeah no he just doesn't have it he uses the force on one of them to knock him over he just doesn't have his gun they were using melee weapons a gun would have been really effective really good yeah they're just glorified stormtroopers by the end he could have just shot them doesn't he jump onto this weird chain thingy does he lose it then it's after all of that random guys and then he bumps into 6 Knights of Ren oh the chain thing is after that the chain thing is the first thing he does when he jumps in oh okay wait wait a minute how did he get off that thing surrounded by water his ship was blown we already said he would have contacted the empire I guess or he could have gotten one of the old TIE fighters inside the Death Star that apparently we're in one of the shots I guess okay somebody super chatted about that and I think he brought up a good plan to bring it up so yeah I just like the idea that JJ was like how do we disappear a weapon has that ever happened in Star Wars before and then Ryan was like yes it's canon yeah it's consistent guys did anyone else think it was weird that he teleports the lightsaber into his hand all the Knights of Ren back up and then he does this sort of yeah I have a sword I felt like I was really off I was like what all he needs to say is let's rock and roll kind of yeah he needs to be quirky now definitely felt that way between him with the lightsaber and the Knights of Ren it's garbage again we mentioned there's a really weird part where he brings the lightsaber behind his back turns and poses with it waiting for it to land there and if any competent fighter saw that they wouldn't have struck that way they'd just stab him in the back they would have stopped for a second and be like what are you doing you could lose this fight dude is this some ancient sith technique I don't know I'm kind of scared to attack him seeing the scene now there's a lot of force powers being used from Kylo and Rey like lots of stuff and I just like is this because Ryan forgot to use them everyone was upset like there's just that because all of the throne room scene there's just no force in it at all which is weird you think with Kylo's power you could have literally just picked up every single one of the Knights of Ren and snapped their necks I mean he isn't picking up already and even if you can't do it consecutively because it's not as powerful as Rey do it one at a time wouldn't take long bang dead bang dead bang dead shouldn't have been a challenge for him you know um the act of a palpation was like really into the idea of coming back and I know it's obviously because it's just fun for him and everything you think that when he came in day one he was like out my alive by the way by the way how is this possible me being here like it's cool I'm here I'll do the scenes of stuff but like how JJ's like yeah it's nothing I honestly think that conversation happened where he's like it's all something you need to worry about force whatever so yeah Kylo turns up and he immediately gets his his tisms sucked out of him along with Rey and it powers up Palpatine even gets his sith eyes back gets his fingers back gets his fingers and it makes you think like okay so he was already pretty powerful and now he sucked the power out of both of them to become super powerful so he's just one like surely he took the power out of a Mary Sue for god's sake and then he throws Kylo down a hole before we get there it's so arbitrary that this force dyad thing is the thing that makes him more powerful like why there's no there's no logical connection that a dyad would mean he would now suck life force out of people whereas before he couldn't and like there's no logical consistency to this at all it's like stop it is he still on this mechanical thingy after he sucked life out of them no it doesn't look like it I don't remember if they have a transition from him being on the thing to his chair I don't even know I don't either I'm gonna have to make my decision based on everything that we've done over so far this is the worst see I think it's the worst I think I'm on that I think I'm in that camp at this point yeah it was still for a while but I'm pretty sure that this is the worst one it's demoralizing the plot in the world of farts I still don't know that I would concede the characters is more like this worse than TLJ yeah I think well I don't know I I guess it's kind of like the final undermining of the original trilogy which is why it's staying so much there's no denying it's complete it's undone Anakin sacrifice entirely so that's not cool so the fox nail into Luke's character as well yes it does as well because it adds that extra element that you brought up yeah it's just but this is just confirmation of something that he did in TLJ well yeah that's the thing is so which does it count for because TLJ is in part responsible for why this film is so bad you could make an argument that he had no other choice in TLJ if the ship was broken and so it's at least mad that makes it worse I mean that is still bad but this movie made it even worse I think I still easily concede the frequency of issues there's more in this film to talk about because TLJ like like we just said there's lots of just nothing goes wrong moments like extended moments of characters just speaking to each other while this one's just just packed oh yeah there's no time to think hardly it's just stuff happens that's his strategy I'd like to say we've been talking nonstop about this film six hours of issues just back and forth and back and forth going through all of them we don't even finish yet get there now I will say actually I probably have to bow out I am very tired I woke up early for this and I didn't sleep as much as I should have I thought I could get through the whole thing but do you want to put your vote in for who you think the most inconsistent character of this film is? I can't remember who I voted for before but I'd say Ray is the most inconsistent character in this movie behind Kylo obviously he's number one but she's second she's flip flopping constantly evil no I'm good I'm the Jedi I'm Skywalker I'm gonna exile myself to a fucking island wait what so that's who I would vote for yeah that would be my vote before you go do you want to plug the old channel yeah yeah I'm making a video it will be out on Christmas Eve hopefully script's done alright well I've gone through it like three times so yeah hope it's good you've already beaten most video essays nice well it's like it's gonna be a little Christmas short story it's gonna be great I hope but yeah Christmas Eve hopefully and I've been streaming more as well but I'll talk about that later on at some point on the channel but that's yeah that's it for me then alright guys I just found a fringy before you go fringy we can see what your original vote was because someone made a reddit post on mall oh did they who don't vote for and so I'm looking you voted for Finn mate yeah Finn got voted for the most and Finn is just not even close to inconsistency he's barely in the film no it's not okay well yeah there's a link to that edit thing I'm gonna peruse that then alright thanks again lads it's been a lot of fun talking about this terrible terrible terrible movie no problemo we'll catch you around soon bye bye toodaloo see ya we're getting there folks we're so close to actually finishing this movie so I'm not even out of beer yet where were we? what were we talking about alright so Finn and Rey they come back together Palpatine sucked their life and is young again and now he's got super mega power and he basically just slaps Kylo away like is nothing Kylo flies down a hole like a wet rag when what a waste he went through this epic redemption arc and you're like okay Kylo he can come and he can fight against the bad guy and everything and then he's just slapped a side and unused it's um I guess this isn't necessarily a criticism of like consistency I guess this is just how it works but how boring like to have them both stand against him and they just both get defeated immediately it's like oh yeah you'd think they're setting up a chance for them both to work as a team to beat him and they don't and after Palpatine sucks the life out of him he doesn't finish the job they're so vulnerable they're defeated and by him not doing anything not finishing the job Rey is able to get up and then Deus Ex Machina you know and then and she was defeated like oh Palpatine just killed him but he doesn't and then although I will admit seeing Palpatine be bad guy it got a grin out of me seeing Palpatine do bad things again I agree it doesn't last long though it really doesn't it's the same category as seeing Lando laugh with Chewie in the Falcon it's like you know I was surprised that they didn't fucking kill him I'm waiting oh my god they're gonna kill him next he was brilliant I heard that they did one of the things like in one of the other cuts but Lando and Chewie die in there in the Falcon oh and like one of the leaks Lando was supposed to die or something yeah in the fight and it was on one of the leaks in one of the test screenings that when that happened several of the viewers got so ticked off they swore at it and they got up and walked out before it ended well yeah I mean like I said that clip with it they're all shouting at the screen in the cinema when she becomes Rey Skywalker I was like oh shit I guess people really do actually do that 86% that's the crazy thing I don't get it I don't get how that score has come to be I don't trust Rotten Tomatoes at all they're full of crap now like Disney's paying him off I reckon something twists like really shifty is happening behind the scenes there it's funny you mentioned the Rey Skywalker thing that somebody in the like two people in the theater threw their arms up in the air and walked straight out as soon as they yeah like my theater just didn't really react to much at all yeah same like every review on YouTube about this movie is negative except two have been reported to me that I like found that were positive and that's it and so like if the overall reception to this movie by so many creators on YouTube is that negative that has to represent some type of you know comparison to the general reception you're like why would all the people on YouTube and these are people who loved Last Jedi who are also saying this is out of garbage right so I just can't see how the audience of you could be so positive when I have to say that I mean I do know people, the second time I watched it there were two people in my family who liked it and a couple did like so there are people who like it yeah I guess it certainly seems to have more normie appeal than the Last Jedi but I don't know about 86% positive to that degree you know I am willing to believe the general audiences can find this movie entertaining but I'm just so surprised it's such a high number especially compared to TLJ but I guess yeah we'll see how that turns out to the general perspective is on this movie because it seems to be that the majority reviews are going to be like all of the regulars for TLJ hated this film according to Twitter so we're expecting a whole bunch of video essays about how it ruined everything what if because TLJ was hated by so many people that so few people are watching this one now that it's only the people who will love any Star Wars movies that actually went out and watched it except for the ones willing to critique it review because that is getting a higher score just because so few people are watching it probably a couple ways to potentially explain it I just seems so unlikely that's all I'm like a 54 see that seems more likely to me yeah because an 86 is like really up there that's 86 seems very I don't know I mean Joker is an 88 from audience yeah it's just funny to think about but anyway all of our team shows up every in the galaxy fights together I don't see how all of them guys got through the space cancer I imagine a whole bunch of them died and we just didn't see what happened we're good cool the amount of ships there that's insane like if all those had to go through the space cancer single file I would have taken them days to get through there was so many ships there was a significant groan like my theater was mostly silent up until that point when the ship showed up there was an audible groan from the audience at that part in particular I mean it's not yeah man nothing is earned it's all just it's all just payoff and then we have like a little bit of space fighting and then pelting it was like and then nothing happens for a while before we skip over the space fighting I found the space fighting so underwhelming like in all the other movies there was like things happening where someone goes for a trench run and they fail or you know they're gonna do something like weird droids jump on the ship and start tearing apart my ship there was like an order of events a mini story within these space battles in all the other movies that made them more engaging this was just like space battle spew cutaway and that's it it was so low tier for star wars I mostly only remember like small fighter ships just going around and killing the cannons I didn't see any big ships doing like a whole flanking thing and just shooting all this shit at their ships like cool shots like that and of course none of the the death star destroyers use their death star cannons at all like that everyone I think we were just especially especially when they all light up and they're like hey here we are it's like guys shoot them all right now yeah there's like a thousand of you just eliminate them immediately you can't miss you're not gonna just shoot at them you'll hit one and then they'll all explode and blow up all of each other it'll be fine sorry I know this would be their radio call shoot them shoot them where shoot up which way's up oh no just old stop tilting crashing into each other um zory bliss shows up we were led to believe she was dead because kajimi blew up and she said you had no way to get off it but she's just fine yeah it turns out that wasn't exactly true um it was really really I mean when I saw kajimi explode I knew that zory bliss was there but most importantly I knew that babu frik was there and my heart just sank the tears of my eyes they grew thick and I almost I had a moment I couldn't believe that babu frik I didn't even pick that up anymore at this point I just wanted to end I just wanted to get out of there that was actually I was like this is over soon I want to go home I wouldn't have breakfast you know I was kind of relieved to have it be done too well this is the funny thing as well about the whole like the steak turnover because you're just like here we go the good guys are now winning dominatively but palpatine does his tizms oh yeah just just I want to ask you guys a question before we get to that right so when kylo gets forced thrown into the hole did any of us did anyone at all but just asking us did any of you worried for him that thought that are his dead men I read the leaks so no not really well I don't care I saw a care book I saw a phone and he felt like right in the middle I was like oh I guess he's dead I mean like I he went in the hole maybe dead maybe not I don't know maybe he was coming I was so apathetic maybe he's gone forever and if he is alright they dropped him into a foggy pit where he didn't see like you know any consequence like he'll be back so it's a character that has been evil for all the movies and he just turned around and was like oh no the horrible person just maybe died he hasn't had full redemption yet come on you haven't kissed the beautiful princess and brought it back to life yet bros tico what a weird thing to do when god jesus what's the thing for them to do when they're trying to get away from all of that you know the whole prince charming kisses the person to bring life to them it's a sleeper beauty right it's just like also no white after she's brought back alive before there were a lot of star wars ads before the movie like a bunch I should just stop showing up I should start arriving for these things like 30 minutes after the showtime says it begins there's a lot of ads there's a lot of commercials that I feel like Disney is really trying to appeal to young girls like all of these commercials had little girls at the center of them and I'm like man you really want to capture that female demographic that young female demographic I can't imagine that's working out for you at all I can tell that's what you're clearly trying to do it just ain't working what's there to like what's there to like about these I can totally believe that the sales of these toys are just in the shitter he's like why why have a toy why have cool white he gives a shit about these people you tell me you don't want to play with the action figure of Ray no those action figures are fucking little it's just it's so when I was young I was so big into the original Star Wars and I was so big even when the prequels came out I'm like oh they're so imaginative and there's big fights and there's clones and there's droids and there's Jedi and it was like oh it was so my childish mind was filled with the wonderment of Star Wars and this new shit I'm like I just don't damn in any way there is no one here I care about except Bobby Frick of course Bobby Frick figure do it yeah I just what is there for kids to latch on to and enjoy I can't tell you I don't see it see even in the prequels there was a lot for kids to get into like mainly it's lightsaber fighting it's good lightsaber fighting and stuff and so heaps of like kids got into and thought it was awesome and Obi-Wan was cool yeah Obi-Wan was cool yeah speaking of all of these cool old characters guess who we get to talk about now all the cool old characters giving lines to Rey in order for her to beat Palpatine on behalf of them children are not their fathers we skipped something because I interrupted the palpatine you know for mega force lightning yeah yeah yeah mega force lightning this is a what could you say about that Rey could have done it by accident he had to like try he had to try he had to be super charged he had to be charged off of her energy someone said earlier oh my god you're right he's so accurate like he doesn't hit his own ships that's the force that's the magic of the force that's just the force now all he really does is like tickle the ships until they all bang their head on something well a lot of them explode but none of them explode if they have any main characters in them yeah that's true they just get shut down they're unresponsive and then the amount of time it takes for them to fall and the distance they showed them from the ground they should have all landed and crashed and burned both of the time it takes them to get it Po fell for a long time yeah yeah absolutely yeah it was the force he's force sensitive he used it to fly oh now he's force sensitive got it they all are it's fine and when their energy is back they all fly up all the people in the star destroyers must be so confused like how are they doing this how does it work I don't understand so um as that's happening and everyone's getting killed just every Jedi gives Rey a bit of encouragement tap talk yeah he can do it the question becomes like they could do this even if they so on one hand right only force ghost trained people can do it which if so there's Mace Windu there there's a couple of question marks in terms of how they can possibly be doing this but on the other hand no maybe it's all Jedi in which case there should be a thousand voices going shut the fuck up how do I beat this guy I'm trying to concentrate it's almost like does your spirit go to the beyond and can only whisper in people's mind in special circumstances can you just show up whenever is it like a two-tier system or what's going on here it's hard to say I was really dreading it seeing the leaks we saw the force ghost fight from the leaks I'm thinking oh my god here it comes I'm quite yeah like the ghost fighting from Doctor Strange yeah it's the biggest Deus Ex Machina moment in this whole movie where she was defeated she is powered by this insanely powerful villain now who has just defeated a galactic army with lightning and everything like that and then suddenly she has the power because reasons just magic is like so dumb why didn't the force people come back to help Luke when he was getting lightning to death by they knew Anakin had it they knew Anakin had it even though they also do he's like you didn't kill him he's fine what are you doing you'll get him you haven't finished him yet I'm sorry you gotta love like again with the whole sort of trying to mend this trilogy she's like struggling she's bleeding she's like oh god do this it's like I'm sorry it's ridiculous you killed the emperor fucks sake there is no amount of struggle and the way that they show it is so dumb right the emperor just showed that his force lightning can take out a galactic fleet okay I mean why have a galactic fleet of your own you should just fire lightning into the universe and kill everything he unleashes the full force of that lightning power onto Rey and she blocks it with a single lightsaber no she's got no power left he sucked it out of her but she has a lightsaber overloaded and exploded the instant that lightning hit for how power blows and she should have just been fried to death there is no logical chance but what about two lightsabers yeah oh shit take that and double it and not only that they're shaped as an X yeah that's like warding off evil like making a cross fuck it's symbolism no no and so I wasn't sure at first if um she was just making some radiant energy that melted Palpatine or it was his lightning being reflected back I'm pretty sure it was being back it's you can pause it and there's just lightning going into his face and yeah at which point the natural question is of palpy why don't you just stop stop it that's actually his because she doesn't like a little like push and there's more lightning coming back not like his fingers are still going he's still zapping there's still lightning coming out of him I guess we could argue that she's like simultaneously reflecting and powering up as well I guess okay why not lightning is not strictly a dark side power anymore it's just a power I guess yeah electricity powers my microwave and that's good it was probably an accident by her anyway it's like oops lightning yeah they seem to repurpose a turret Finn and the Janna and they aim it to shoot at the bridge and they blow it up and they blow a pride ship by doing so so this whole time those death troopers or sith troopers they just couldn't clear that area they just couldn't do it the cannon from the ship could do it how come one of the rebel ships just didn't shoot it exactly what are they doing they didn't have any shields up so the shields don't work in the atmosphere they even had Y-wings this time they could have bombed the ship what are those I don't know I heard that that's the thing are they like X-wings but with a bit cut off yes it's like broken X-wings just put a stick in it and it's like let's just go back on Palpatine because I really want to just point out how underwhelming that his defeat was it was just like of course Rey can do that you know Palpatine's like what the fuck happened I had this in the bag what the fuck we've talked about it's the point where it's more normalized but just rewind even a year and talk about the fact that Anakin didn't kill the emperor Rey is going to be the CFA who's like this crazy Mary Sue she's going to be one that kills her she's the real hero none of those stinky old characters that's not possible he's dead what are you talking about it's like you're in for a fun ride person I like to bring him back and then to underutilize at no point did he feel dangerous or truly menacing like no of course Rey's going to win there's no way that's it was so weak it's so easy as well they do the move that Mace Windu did to him and it's like wait but that doesn't kill him does it and it's like no it does she had two that was Mace Windu's mistake he didn't pull out the second lightsaber fool people might say now I forgot what I was going to say I was a good point too that's annoying I'm going to remember it halfway through was it about the futility well the boringness of beating Palpatine oh yeah that they might say you think of course the heroes are going to win why shouldn't you expect that and how can you have suspense if Palpatine is going to win anyway it's like he could have killed a couple of characters along the way or make characters truly need to sacrifice something of significance to get to that point where they can defeat him like to make them struggle to achieve it than just getting knocked on the ground and then Ray getting all the Jedi zapped into her and then killing him like it's nothing like there wasn't any true struggle to achieve it that it's like the characters weren't really worried about it's just yeah she'll win it was weak yeah man he's crazy awesome he's amazing crazy awesome it's kind of weird too it's like when he sucks all the dyads out of them it's he only has lightning like he couldn't use any other ability to get around those you think he'd just have force disintegrate at that point you think he'd have his own lightsaber at that point you think they would have made of one like you are like concentrated lightning he just has a lightsaber of lightning yeah something or just I don't know squish your head just squish your head with his hand just squish oh well yeah I think I managed this either earlier or with rags at some point but it's just like you realize when she was unconscious on the floor before she'd woken up if he just like fucking exploded her head thumbs over like quite got jid is like Ray you need oh shit she's dead what what happens like then Luke was like I thought that she could handle it I don't know sorry you hear the other voices they're like barfing what the fuck oh my god oh god the last hope dude you know what I would actually think that would be a nice ending to have fucking baboo Frick do it just like jumps onto bites him like just bites him gives him rabies so yeah Finn detects through the force that Ray's dead he has the moment and then she's like cold and they even make her pale but she doesn't disappear because the force knows that Kylo needs to die to save her oh no you're right she didn't disappear what everyone else does very sure about it did a Kylo very shortly after pop even die cause so um yeah he gets up he but does the forcedisms they have what is how do I even put this like inappropriate as fuck kiss so so forced and so awkward it's like he's like what are you doing and then and then he dies it's like the kiss is the thing that kills him that's why and it's funny because she doesn't she doesn't get a chance to use her powers on him he just disappeared like the force was like no no gives these backsies yep and we really didn't stick around but not this guy she would have been out to heal him and not die cause she's got all the power and all the Jedi as I was like the force saying no you can't heal him he's gone too late I'm pretty sure I heard people face palming in the cinema when that happened it's garbage but then again the whole thing is garbage so uh what what is left would be either the ad now but god damn I guess they'll just head home cause they wouldn't know what the exit goal is well it was the uprising against all the Star Destroyers you know the first order stuff in the sky and of course that's where we see a holdover maneuver which is face palm which uh which planet was that over do you remember Endor now the Ewoks were watching it remember Ewoks I'm gonna see it now like I've got it running but what is is it you can see like a stream of something going through it is it or they're like the same type of stream of debris that's caused by the impact flying out past behind it and I was wondering what it is like what the fuck is halving the fucking Star Destroyer there well I guess they went right through the middle I guess cause I was a little confused at first and I'm thinking is that the holdo thing alright sure at this point in the movie I was just ready to just I was just in accept your fate mode you know like my bucket was full like in terms of having stuff to think about I was just like I need to leave now okay I've had a tough way but they do wrap it up pretty quickly too they're just like yay celebration woo hoo way bury the lightsabers woo hoo bye bye bye yeah oh wow um so yeah they're all like celebrating this this super like I know this is out of order but I just want to get to it a super awkward moment where Jada just sits down next to Lando and she's like hey and he's like hey I don't know who I am he's like let's find out that's it I was like why is this here for clarification like I'm almost sitting I can't prove it there's a whole bunch of scenes where she was supposed to be the long lost daughter of Lando that he left behind she was stolen by the first order and that was like them reuniting and I guess he would have been like let's find out who you are together that sort of like nice sort of thing but they had to like cut the shit out of it to um well fix it because I remember being announced that this film was supposed to be two and a half hours and if the final cut was 210 you have to wonder what's been lost I mean if you're at 210 fuck it go for two and a half people are there for the long haul just go for it I just like the idea that he asked for advice on like should I cut this whole thing with Lando it is like inability to be a good father yeah yeah yeah yeah you want you want to be doing that he's like oh okay yeah sure thank you so much for asking this time though it is interesting to think that Palpatine was actually Disney forcing upon him um that that wasn't his choice because I know I will and I'm sure many others will like blame him for this and if he had like no choice I feel sorry for him I can do it so when they come back to the rebel base or whatever they call it there's so many people just coming back like everyone is still there even though they surely lost like everyone but yeah when the reinforcements came they were probably like a handful of ships left but everyone we saw before they were just all there it's like yay let's kiss I was like what the okay yep the force diversity kiss which is it's pandering of the highest order because you know they're going to cut it with the China release they did yeah and the release is in Middle East I think is something that happened as well but it's uh it should just be considered frustrating for anybody who wants that kind of content like this is not this is just you just jangling it's just another form of key jangling which is all JJ really does like you like this right you like this eat your slop you're like alright oh I'm choking on it no more no um and yeah we like Ray comes back she lads it everyone's like yeah hero of the universe you did it Ray whoo it's just like yeah alright yeah good job you okay you did it she's going to tell everybody that it was Kylo that saved your life I wonder she's like I shouldn't complicate yeah it's gonna be hard to explain that oh think about it she's Kylo and Palpatine alone she's the only person who knows that he even changed teams exactly how hard is that going to be to explain like yeah he kind of like kind of like help me kill Palpatine I'm so glad the Emperor's dead yeah and that bastard Kylo she's like so he's like kind of cool you know not like full cool he's alright I guess I mean you know if you wanted him to be I mean I'm the real hero just don't forget that so yeah she that's a sort of a nice completion to the saga a beautiful end she heads back to Tatooine with Luke's lightsaber and Layers obviously Layers lightsaber you guys know Layers lightsaber pretty well right it's a really good saga thing Layers lightsaber well when she pulled it out I was like what is that I tried to look at it and I don't recognize this it looks Layers oh yeah that's right Layers has a lightsaber because she was trained by Luke and she beat Luke in combat she's great she's really amazing I love Layers so much she's great she is my favorite lightsaber wielding character favorite Disney princess yes it's not frustrating at all that we have to deal with like just no no great all that could be said I uh I guess this is the final piece of this horrifying puzzle she's uh she's asked by a random local she's like oh nobody covers around here anymore she's like oh yeah okay cool except you she's like what's your name she's like oh Ray what's the other part of your name Ray what I need a last name I was supposed to address you and then she says oh she looks out and you have Luke and Leia just sitting there being like hey buddy steal my name it's like so long this world they was like hello hey I was saying to Rags she would have seen it bury those lightsabers and walks off you imagine she was like oh my god lightsabers so much money this is crazy but uh yeah she's like my name is Ray Skywalker Skywalker the audience screamed and then those two threw up their hands I knew it was coming but I couldn't it was oh it's like the longer she took it hurt more imagine what she said my name is Ray Palpatine we'd be like oh okay well like that Palpatine or is that just like a coincidental thing and she says like her goal is to clean the name of Palpatine and to in his name do good deeds to try and correct the world or something like that we'd be like oh alright no she steals Skywalker obviously she doesn't want her name to be anywhere near Palpatine it'd be funny if Luke and Leia were there like what back up how dare you how dare you Skywalker lime his cut off well yeah so the the obvious thing to say is that at the end of the saga the solos are dead the skywalkers are dead and the palpatines win wow okay jeez stop that sagas you have to sit down and be like oh why why did you want this oh my goodness gracious what a terrible movie what an absolute catastrophe yeah we did it we got to the end so I think the first question and poll I want to put out we kind of addressed it half way through but we'll give it a shot again which was worse Skywalker this this one I don't know I feel like there are two different kinds of bad I feel like one is malicious bad and the other is just incompetent bad it's hard to measure I don't know if I I don't think I can give you an answer I think it's complicated because they're both awful I think the plot in both of them is absolute garbage but I think Rise of Skywalker takes the cake the plot is so utterly insane then Will building wise I think that Rise of Skywalker inches in is slightly better but it's still garbage and then my brain has a lot of trouble when it comes to character because how do we Luke was destroyed by TLJ yeah and this just confirmed it this just twisted the knife let me play it better than him and everything lift X wings out oh yeah they're better when they're dead I know they're all they're both terrible in their own wonderful ways mom hates both of you kids yeah I definitely hate both of them it's tough though like if I had to vote I really don't know what else you got rags help me out as to which one's worse yeah which one did you enjoy watching the most because I enjoyed watching Rise of Skywalker the most Rise of Skywalker thank god for C-3PO I actually laughed yeah we got a chuckle at a C-3PO already the highs between the two Rise of Skywalker has achieved a high or high the question is which is the lowest low oh but see for me this legitimately ruined the force in every way like that is epic where the last Jedi you know it made some big problems with force ghosts but that was kind of it you know I feel like force is just the last Jedi set up like the last Jedi ruined them but it didn't like go that far into ruining them no like it laid the groundwork for oh yeah they're definitely ruined but the Rise of Skywalker was like and here's how like it was using it as a springboard to just fly with that idea with how the force was ruined the amount of Deus Ex machina the pointless absolute pointless muffins right the amount of backflipping on anything that they tried to commit to you and the sheer staggering number of stupid contrivances throughout the entire story just makes me feel this one takes a cake like I made a list I made a list of the amount of times TLG destroyed space battles forever it's all pretty significant let's not forget it I know they're both so it's hard it's like comparing a rotten apple so a list of the times this movie backflips the falcon is damaged and then it's instantly fixed a ray gives up you know the lightsaber and instantly flips and takes it off-layer straight away Chewie dies and that is not dead Ray strands herself on the island planet and it's instantly fixed because she has another ship to not be stranded anymore C-3PO's mind gets wiped and then it's not Zory Bliss is dead and then she's not dead by the end of the end she needed a way find it and get off the planet and rubber freak oh you needed a way find it to get to the Sith planet and then you don't because Ray just broadcasts it in her ship Zory Bliss needed the chip to get off the planet and then suddenly she don't since she gets off the planet Kylo he dies by Ray stabbing him and then is not dead he's instantly healed so we got the Zory Bliss he falls down the hole supposedly dies again and then is not the lightning supposedly defeats the entire galactic thing and then suddenly everyone's fine and the lightning does nothing Ray is suddenly dead and then she's not dead she's instantly alive and then Ray and Kylo kiss promising that they're going to be together again and then Ray low die and then Kylo dies that's true and then that's undermined as well wow we're at a 50-50 split gents oh is that true wow yeah because I'm split I can't even vote because I don't even know which one's worse I really don't like to do this but I cannot answer this question I don't know I don't think I can either they're both so terrible the fucking thing is flipping upside it like it doesn't know yeah it is 50-50 it is neck and neck folks oh shit like we are 223 to 222 and now it's just it's 50-50 man it's just neck and neck this is an auto finish I'm still going to argue then for the Rise of Skywalker because the level of bullcrap is on a new level there was a lot of bullcrap in The Last Jedi but this one legitimately has crap like people not being able to figure out which way is up we're hang hang on it's not like TLJ didn't have stupid shit as well like oh we can't catch up to them because they're smaller than us it's true we can't shoot forwards yeah and they've established that TIE fighters have hyperspace so hyperdrives the three TIE fighters together destroy the haggar and the bridge that they just go home for no reason it's like you have thousands I don't want to call it this but could it be that like if you'd really try and figure out every element how bad all of it it's like they kind of just level out as equally bad I mean if this poll concludes within the margin of error like if they're within a percentage or two of each other I'm just going to call it and say they're both we're just going to say officially from EFAP they're both equally shit it seems like this is EFAP chat's vote right so this is what they're saying pretty nuts yeah vote people I'm going to stick with chat on this one though I'm going to agree with you guys the difference is like within 5 vote like this is neck and neck I think that once I've got a lot more time to spend with Rise of Skywalker I might be able to have an answer but for now we just we thrashed that movie just now like it's not like like are you guys hard prepared for how bad it is yet you haven't really absorbed it it's like I don't know we just went through every single seed and talked about how awful everything is there's definitely stuff that we missed definitely like that we missed like someone just said they brought back the emperor it's way worse it's like they killed Luke's character in TLJ they made him a cowardly idiot like it's this is what it means it's hard oh yeah um which movie yeah I'm only seeing Rise of Skywalker yeah like if it's within like you know three to five percent well up to five percent I should be like it's pretty much undecided from um I like the chat it's actually having a back and forth it's like TLJ is worse hold over over R.S. is derivative of TLJ it's a train wreck attempt at correction and it's it's tough you forgot about Chewie getting his medal from Maz Kanatra out of nowhere oh yeah that was like a really funny meal oh yeah that's right we're at 800 votes and it's 50-50 still 800 votes I got 590 on my one oh I refreshed mine it froze for a moment but yeah we're at I mean it is oh my goodness yeah I mean it's within like five it's basically tied and we're at 330 votes now it's that's nuts they're flying now oh my god do you guys all find this fascinating I do it's amazing this is it was incredible this is art right here how bad it was 850 votes and it's locked in at 50-50 it's literally like holy shit like I just looked up and it was tied at 427 so it's like man I just oh my god I think I'm just we're just going to call it as a tie an official beef up tie I think we can leave it up obviously I just think it's fair to say it's a tie yeah I will say as well yeah I think the comedy was better in Rise of Skywalker than the Lost Jedi but again we're looking at all these different aspects where like I said I think the plot is just a bit stronger in Lost Jedi I think the world is just a bit stronger in Rise of Skywalker I think the characters it's really hard to pick but I probably would go with Rise of Skywalker for characters well yeah you can't lose if you don't play right though there's people being stupid like that's the best we got while in Lost Jedi they are completely beyond out of character um wow perfectly balanced that's that pie charts going into a meme sorry I guess we'll stop we'll stop like considering it once it hits a thousand votes I guess completely off topic and I saw something on Twitter universal notifies theaters cats is being updated with improved visual effects or what improved visual effects improved visual effects oh that'll save it yeah hang on what's being updated with improved visual effects the movie cats oh dear we're gonna we're gonna effap movies cats oh yes we are oh fuck do we move on to the most inconsistent character now yes well I was just gonna say we let me post this one more time to get us over a thousand I guess and then we will be welcome well no I'm just curious to get it over and see what we're looking at and it looks like multiple times no it prevents or it's supposed to prevent you from doing that anyway it does IP duplication checking but that's so much trouble it'll probably keep people away from it alright home stretch everybody your boy some of us keep changing their IP address so they could stand for the rise of Skywalker it looks as if last Jedi is like trying to get some form of a lead here alright it looks like it's still so damn close at one thousand and two votes it's only twenty of a difference by the looks of things yeah it shows here 18 vote difference at one thousand votes so it's it is neck and neck refresh you might get more numbers I'm looking at one thousand sixty votes and it's about a thirty difference yeah last Jedi is pulled ahead by a percent so still tied pretty close but yeah I think we can conclude as far as you can see right now we don't know we don't know so here's the thing I think that this is a poll that we should make in a month let it let all the info come out let people think about it let it get not be on the forefront of people's minds really think about it because I know when I walked out of the theater for a TLJ I was confused and we all pretty much like the Force Awakens once it came out so give it a little time give it a month give it a couple weeks and then we'll I'd be curious to see this poll again and see if any of the sides really take a strong lead which moves us on to the next discussion which is who is the most inconsistent character now what I'll do is we'll each choose and then make our augments I guess and then we can make a public poll for it oh hang on are we allowed to change our votes I thought we had to hold you can ignore the ones you went for originally because we didn't even see the film at that point you can just compare them to that I know that's why we're gonna do it correctly so I guess we'll start what do you think was the most inconsistent character everyone should we go down the list yes give me one second I'm just gonna prepare the post it I think we should offer some arguments because if people are gonna say Hux I don't know I wanna say that he was consistent in his hatred for Kylo that's what justified the inconsistent part for me is how much of an idiot he is being in terms of like risking everything to not even directly hurt Kylo he was always an idiot though that's consistently he's been an idiot since TLJ so it's consistent with TLJ I'll give you that he wasn't like a complete buffoon in TFA and then his allegiance just swaps or how long has he kept it I mean it's fucking weird how long has he been a mole he's a contender I think can we all agree that Finn is not a contender Finn's not a contender Poe I would say Poe is not a contender is Luke on the list? yes so the list is Finn Poe, Luke, Rey, Hux, Han, Leia, Chewbacca, R2-D2, C-3PO and Barbu Frick Luke is a contender massive backflip with this movie because of the middle finger to Ryan Jumpson and the last movie it is repairs done to Luke so I feel like what we're doing is we're picking the character that JJ is using as a cudgel to beat Ryan with what is our criteria exactly do you think what should we say it is inconsistent with TLJ or inconsistent with TLJ and TFA I'm gonna say TLJ and TFA it needs to be with this whatever we know about them TLJ and the last the last Skywalker and TLJ I would say I think we shouldn't discount any inconsistency that made them better in this movie that we liked still it needs to count so Luke is a contender what would our biggest examples be of how he's a contender a Jedi's weapon should be treated with respect you gotta go out there, you gotta get off the island make a mistake so that's inconsistent with TLJ but could that arguably be consistent with everything up to TFA that seems more Luke like to me with the original trilogy how do we judge it him secluding himself on the island was established in the Force Awakens we didn't get the reason and that's why TFA always survived criticism because we don't know why he did it then and obviously Ryan has changed a lot and then JJ has don't you think it tells you something that the first thing he says is like yeah that was stupid like we do with that also everything else I did in that movie was stupid it's like okay first thing he does is a slap in the face to Ryan so I guess my question is how do we judge this if he's in line with X but not in line with Y when we're trying to judge the whole of it well if this is something that what we're doing is strange it is strange I don't even know if I can answer that so my vote personally is Ray and my evidence would be that she's like kind of losing a shit in this movie for no reason she's like suddenly deciding that oh my god like I am evil I am gonna fuck up I'm gonna blah blah blah literally had no value changes just decided that this is the movie where it all comes to your head you're shockingly perfect and it feels like the film is forcing her to have conflict in herself from nowhere because it's the finale we gotta do it and also does her parentage swap does that count as an inconsistency of her character oh yeah that's interesting parentage used to be it didn't matter from TFA then it was nobody in TLJ and now it's Palpatine extremely important now it's the most powerful force user outside of Attica depending on how you sort of judge it so yeah I heard a weird thing go ahead I don't mean to detract us but just on the note of that I heard that it's established somewhere in one of the comics that Palpatine was the one who created Anakin that he made he manipulated the midi-chlorians to make Anakin have you guys heard that rumor? I've seen a screenshot something that I've heard for a while so if okay so Shmi, Anakin's father would be Palpatine then depends how it works biologically yeah so if that's the case I mean Anakin's kids are Luke and Leia and Leia's son is Kylo Ren and Kylo and Rey kissed and if Palpatine's granddaughter is Rey then what's the relationship between Kylo and Rey because they're like totally related are they cousins or second cousins as a result? the thing is making a force baby I don't know how it works I'm not a doctor or is Rey Kylo his auntie? is that what it is? would that make would that put Rey higher in the family tree than Kylo? so would that make Rey Kylo's um this is confusing and people are saying aunt and nephew so Rey would be Kylo's aunt? I guess so but hang on is it confirmed that Palpatine made Anakin? oh my god this is what Leia meant when she said it's about family oh my god she was trying to warn us and now she's dead? oh my god that Star Wars girl in the chat said Rey and Leia are cousins Rey and Leia are cousins oh my goodness their parents would have been brothers or sisters for that to be the case my brain is melting right now I'd wait too many beers for that shit process? couple of people have sent me that there's been a poll for this already the whole idea is that we present all the arguments and then do the poll yeah and then we're gonna do another poll in like a couple weeks or a month after it's kind of been fresh in our mind because lord knows I know my opinion generally changes I don't know if this one will I don't know if this one will get better with age I think as we discover more and more issues with it it'll be like TLJ where it gets worse and worse as time goes on I think um it's not raw time to think about all the issues yet we can't count Han because he technically wasn't in the film as far as we can tell no Leia was barely in the film to the point where yeah I'd almost say she wasn't in the film because they had to just repurpose old stuff and her usage was so awkward it really kind of pulled me out of the movie I would downright say C-3PO was kind of strong compared to the everyone else yeah he was my favorite character in this movie yeah I C-3PO is my favorite character in this film yep nobody loved it why is it now in two of the Disney films the favorite character is the droid I know I just quickly made the family tree yeah it's Ray and Leia our cousins and so if Palpatine is the father of Anakin and that's just like where the hell did that come from if that's the case this is why we have made that because they're big into family trees they can tell us this shit for certain we're pretty good with family history this is true they can tell us exactly what relationship Ray and Kylo have when they smooched galaxy spatting star wars is so small that incest happens I just I hope it's not true like if this is that an actual well look the one thing we're stuck on is look okay but if Palpatine put his actual seaman inside thingy then you've got a point but manipulating midichlorians to make a baby I don't know what that means it's not a biological child is it not I don't know I don't know how it works I need to ask Palpatine if no real less there to compare it to I'm afraid yes kind of just something that seems weird it's stupid beyond belief I want to know the origin of this like if it comes from a comic book I need to see it it's so dumb it can't be it's I saw the screenshot of the comic on twitter at one point so I definitely know it exists out there a weird world we live in we're spending a lot of time discussing this because it's fascinating in its own messed up way you need to left them would be R2D2 and Chewbacca I think we're fine yeah lime green I did send that away to them to look at the jury is still out on this one this is a this is no simple matter I guarantee you that I think if I'm talking about inconsistent character I think Rey is yeah I'm sure you would be my vote I'm convinced of Rey as well that was so fucking well yeah it's so weird because Rey is like I feel like some of these other characters are like I said they're just they're just tools that JJ is using the shit over Ryan and I almost feel like that pollutes it yeah that was the thing it's like at first I didn't think Rey was going to be entirely inconsistent because she's still all powerful she'd be beaten and everything like that but then when we factor in her family she sky rock us to the top yeah we went from your parent we don't know who your parents are to your parents don't matter you're nobody to literally the most important thing about you as a person is your parentage to the point where that's arguably the theme of the movie that's like a whoa that's whiplash levels of holy shit what a change yeah and then of course the icing was just all the doubt she had in herself yeah yeah exactly a lot of a motivation she is flip-flopping all over the place she wants to be a general don't drive don't be texting and driving oh my goodness danger mask she said sorry I'm driving it's hard to comment it should be impossible don't text and drive don't do that come back alive I checked the poll that was made previously and the winner was Hux but the one I've just sent now Rey seems to be dominating with Luke and Hux in second place because I had guessed I had guessed Rey a while ago or I guessed Hux a while ago because I thought he would go back to original JJ but with Rey actually being a Palpatine I'm like damn that oof look at her actions as well she wants to kill Kylo then she does and she heals him she wants to give up yeah she wants to give up being a Jedi and goes to the thing and then she does and she will go fight Palpatine and the previous one you know she's flip-flopping about joining Kylo and that not joining and she's lost in her your place in everything and then she has the hots for Kylo so she wanted to die on the island like Luke wanted to and then she did and to clarify the people who vote for Rey a wolf, shad, deathbull, shit and chaseface winners I remember distinctly being like why would I vote for Rey she's just going to be perfect again but I thought yeah I figured JJ was going to totally pull back on her and he did yeah this is the thing there's a lot of rationales you can use and it's just funny how it turned out like I love the most voteful character it was just nothing happened to him in this movie it was like Finn was just around I'll admit like I I was wrong on the reason for why I voted for her because I thought she was going to stop being a Mary Sue and start sucking all of a sudden so I can't take full credit and think like oh yeah I figured it all out and I thought really hard about this now like she was still a Mary Sue really hard for her I had no prediction of what she was going to be I think the reason why I picked Rey is that if any character is going to be inconsistent with bad writing it's generally the main character and so I think that's why I'm picking her someone in the discord said the rise of Skywalker is a worse movie but TLJ is more he's cut out again he said the rise of Skywalker is a worse movie but TLJ is more insulting maybe he makes a point he makes a point I don't it's weird, we're comparing some they're so close like I'm willing to bet that the answer is going to be tough to reach we're going to be stuck for a while because it's just like does that mean we all agree that TFA is the best of the three? yeah because I was going to say like I think of TFA and I'm like oh that's bad too and I look back at those two and I'm like yeah okay fine yeah it's the least terrible it's winning by the process of elimination so congratulations TFA it can't be TLJ or Tross so I guess it's TFA by default by elimination and disqualified something I can say about the rise of Skywalker is that they have achieved something rather impressive to make a movie this bad like this is an achievement it's fascinating I don't know what's going on behind the scenes what corporate meddling is causing this type of crap or just completely oblivious writers or is it directors JJ I have no idea because to me it doesn't take too much of an objective lens to find some of the massive problems with this who did they get to look at the script what were they patching together by the end I can't believe it yes I'm so curious what comes next oh like for Star Wars well yeah that's retcon they can't build anything from this that'd be so stupid to do that yeah like what this is where they go universe trotting they go somewhere else with nothing is recognizable oh my god put it up for sale on Amazon I mean George Lucas never wanted this to happen but it's cheap enough that Disney might try and organize it and that's a crossover movie between Star Wars and Star Trek oh my god no no way I can't even say those words together in a sense it's money in the bag for them if they did that I would have to watch it I'll be like oh jeez this will be so bad I have to see yeah like and who would it and so money in the bag that's possibility all they need to do is get what who owns it now Paramount owns or Star Trek I don't know and I mean they've desecrated Star Trek enough with the new series and stuff like that that they got nothing to lose even they should just combine them Trek Wars and that about does it I think in terms of we've covered the movie now Lucas 7 hours yeah that's the first eFap concerning the rise of Skywalker and no doubt it will be the first of many more to come and it will sustain us with hatred and apathy for it oh man the flipping and the flopping that might happen you see how TLJ was a miracle the rise of Skywalker ruined it ruined it how many people are defending it right now the usual suspects we've got cinema Roberto oh well he's the only person who likes the rise of Skywalker from what I know but the rest of them everyone else seems to hate it movie bob is just the worst yeah true it's the joke we would have made it's like who would like this movie it's like I don't know movie bob it's like oh my god he did he gave it an 8 out of 10 apparently I haven't seen the video but we're gonna have to watch it aren't we oh at some point I imagine um but yeah I guess uh we'll probably time to stop responding to super chats um obviously anybody is welcome to stay or go it's completely up to you does anybody want to do anything of any particular kind I'm good to keep going mate really? I'm good I suppose I'm alright the only issue we have is the mean rags have a selection to respond to from a different stream but now we've got a new selection to respond to already because of rides of skywalker does it make sense to respond to the ones from this stream because it's going to be relevant to the conversation rather than catching up I think this is a special one where let's I think it would work to keep it all to this one because this is an event an event can we get them all? I don't think that's remotely possible oh my god we might get backed up to the point where we might just do an e-fab stream for super chat responses alone and it'll take us to like a cap or some shit I don't know this is a lot I'm still scrolling down the lists and we had a whole bunch to respond to outside of these and maybe some of those super chats have some really good points about the film exactly so I'm sure that some of them just we will take this to the 1155 gentlemen still scrolling let me see what how mundane mad had to say about it is it good or is it bad my responses maybe I have to find oh he he made a point about how like it never had a chance because everyone was going to hate it anyway I want you to take a look at this I want you to look at this and I want you to prepare yourself that fucking thumbnail though is that hurt why does he do this why does he do this to himself why is he such a meme all right you guys ready to get going let's do it first one I was actually notified excellent I mean a lot of people were because we got more more of an audience with this one than we ever usually do I think people really wanted to see what we had to say on Star Wars apparently some of my fans and EFAP fans and you guys Shad's fans you guys seem to like Star Wars what's that about I love watching Star Wars just crumble I have I can't love it anymore it's just it's been gone for years now and this is only the continuation of that the rage from the disappointment or the fall of Star Wars is the only catharsis I've been out of gate from it the reviews of this movie on YouTube for the last day and it has been helping heal my broken soul get out your Rhino milk tanks you massives it's the reckoning of a lifetime yes sir I watched it yesterday and didn't enjoy it nearly as much as I thought I would didn't you thought you were going to enjoy it I don't know from those leaks I was like I was prepared that I might enjoy it in a terrible horrible way like it'd be so terrible I'd enjoy it yeah I was trying to get not to get my expectations colored by like tweets and reviews and stuff but boy they were coming in so fast a few of them hit so my expectations can check there angry Joe did a long man he mentioned in his review the force awakens with Darth Sidious roommates youtube vid and it's exactly his rise turned out did a long man he just like he has like a 2 hour spoiler review with him and his mates and most of it's pretty solid he hated the movie and he points out a lot of the crap that we've pointed out as well so good on him Oymorli totally missed you covering my super chat last time last time discuss also high rags you wonderful flufew hello and it is day critique part 2 1 22 46 I forgot what it was let me just play it quick so that I can 1 22 4 6 I love it some of these memes in efat podcast talk are really that doesn't make the dynamic in this film worse this one stays the same and it has a purpose the change is the fault of the last Jedi not the force awakens so it's a portion where I'm explaining that it's not on TFA that Hux has changed into a clown I don't know if that is the point that it's like what do we think about I guess how I don't know whose fault is it that Hux is the way he is in this film let me play a little bit more because the timestamp seems to go further found him very funny one last thing on this scene however Kylo immediately assumes from the recent events that it is the performance of the individual stormtroopers that is the issue well while you're looking I'm gonna use the loo real quick and I'll be back okay but there was 2 when there was like 50 before on top of that why wasn't this his mission considering how invested he is in this yeah I'm not sure what they're looking for if it's just like whose fault is it that Hux is an idiot I would say it's taking forward what was established in TLJ but pushing him a little bit like to the point of I don't know if he would do that what he does anyway I'm okay with him trying to get Kylo killed I just don't think his choice was very effective if anything it seemed like they just needed an informant let's just use Hux Hux is a character who's angry with Kylo that'll work um anyway hi dads all of us are this person's dad that's nice in one word describe the movie contrived yeah that pretty much nails it outside of just using words like abysmal if I could use a second word it would be garbage contrived garbage um did my man Finn get sea blocked my boy didn't get to lick that ray taint oh my goodness sad steamboat noises toot toot I know that um well so you know how he clearly looks as if he's going to be trying to tell here that he loves her yeah that apparently was just him trying to say he's force sensitive according to JJ mm-hmm that's so dumb that's not something that'd be hard to tell that's like a passing oh I think I can sense the force right just letting you know that's not a big difficult thing to say why would you that isn't imagine he'd say ray before we die he can sense the force and she's like oh my goodness exactly what I was going to say yeah why didn't he tell Poe after they get into the tunnel thing he's like oh what do you want to ask about oh no it's fine we're going to tell you later oh okay all right check the meta score it's a 5.1 user last time I checked which again seems more more accurate compared to rotten tomatoes but I think everybody's just on the on the point of like don't trust rotten tomatoes at this point seems to be going with execute EFAP 66 yeah I I'm curious if this will be like the the one that everybody seems to want to watch because I think we did a really good breakdown honestly it was chronological extensive lots of voices and I think having multiple voices just helped out so much because so many of you guys are pointing out things that you know I didn't pick up on and stuff like that which just made it so comprehensive all over it was like having that happen all over the place with each scene that passed everybody was like I have an issue it was like but I also have an issue I have an issue the thing was a mess you needed this many watched it last night and discorded my buddies pirated that bitch not even lying we laughed the entire movie had a blast movies garbage though we had so much fun who's shit though hey guys whenever someone accuses you of saying the n word just yeah I said Nakama it means friends so that works all I mean doesn't sound remotely like it how would that possibly work avatar ray the last Skywalker she is now she identifies as long as someone else doesn't take the name she is the last Skywalker um so sad tfa was the cancer that disney spread tlj was the death of the franchise from what I've heard tros is sodomizing a dead corpse pretty much shad drinker your videos are gold thank you oh thank you sir appreciate that very much just got my Christmas bonus enjoy it enjoy it with me you gaggle of massives you deserve it for going through tros for us all high rags kick jay etc etc well jay has been kicked so that's half of the job done I wonder if you'll come back like it's been a while now right like three hours we'll try and come back when he has asleep so I will see they're alive now they're alive now um a good friend of mine loves it I don't know how or why I love that like you come out of the cinema they're like I loved it you just bewildered like what what no stop it not possible moeller you're going to make a critique series for tros after you finish tfa one in a few years who knows what order exactly I'll be doing videos I'll just let you know that it's been non-stop for the past few days and it will be as soon as the stream is completed as well things be happening uh god there's such a fucking train wreck here's to you lads breaking it down hopefully it'll be the longest efap yet the problem is we've already reached the cap on the longest efap several times we can't actually go further I'm the day they extend that is going to be a wonderful day we need more um I swear to god this movie annoyed me so much I actually made a video script and I'm going to make a youtube video even though I have no subs well good on ya mate yeah keep at it creative process good shit um I swear you masters better be going when I get back well chapter master russarius are you here we're still going do you have any you have oh you watched the wrong part tlj critique not the tfa one okay all right give me a second lads I'm going to put that one on now fucking useless search function right one two two four six anything come back what's up just I got the correct timestamp I'm just listening to it one sec rey was speculated to be the child of Luke Skywalker obi one was it did you have a good time in ragtime alpatine it was all right is okay nothing you know wait you know what I can I can play this for you guys at the same time as I play it for the e-fap in opal so trilogy and he will like make sure I got the right timestamp again yeah one two two four six yeah that'll be close enough all right I'm going to play it for you guys while playing it for the stream but people like I can't see visuals like yeah you don't need to see visuals trust me it's just it helps me avoid copyright for sure as well the reason I watch episode nine however let's discuss a different character rey was speculated to be the child of Luke Skywalker obi one can obi or even the granddaughter of emperor palpatine the reason people speculate these sorts of things is to see how the ripple effect pans out let's take the palpatine theory if she was related to palpatine then would that incline into the dark side what would rey think if she knew she was a blood relative to a mass murdering monster that held a horrifying grip across the galaxy how would this inform her powers and her abilities will the first order respond to rey as a leader will they be people in the universe who want her to take the throne that palpatine lost what will her friends do if they find out her lineage this is interesting not because it references the old films but it asks so many story building questions that are ripe for not only exploring but connecting to trials tribulation oppression pain this small section of dialogue could have revealed so much while being a simple line about appearance I understand that many people will say well that's just typical that's almost annoyingly bad that it's just gonna turn out to be a character from the OT but it could have been anything instead it was nothing well how about that for progression of what they went with the funny thing is they didn't do any of that like you have or they tried it like at the smallest level of her worried that she might go to the dark side but that wasn't even implied that it's because she is the grand daughter of palpatine and she thinks that you know she has the same weaknesses it's just there's no connection she makes to that it's just that she's doubting herself because apparently I sounded like a robot everyone's saying I sounded like no you sounded fine well I guess it sounded fine to you guys but it may have sounded like an echo to everyone in oh like lagged or something hopefully hopefully they heard it is the important part well if you didn't so I talk about the potential of making Ray the grand daughter of palpatine what you can do with that in terms of story as well as it filling in the gap of where power comes from as a sort of fixing for what happened in TFA it's so funny that we're this far in now like the third film but they just don't work with any of that we have a moment of her being like oh my goodness I'm a palpatism oh but like you don't really doesn't do anything and she's like I'm going to kill palpatine it's like oh my god that like Luke encourages her to do that I don't know but yeah I'd say they wasted the potential in terms of storytelling for sure it's just that it's funny because I sound definitive in that video that she is not the grand daughter of palpatine and that they just wreck on it I swear it's actually funny because in the context of how you're speaking it sounded like you picked palpatine because it's the most unlikely conclusion and where did we end up like oh it's crazy do you have any idea how many times I'm going to have to watch Revenge of the Sith to get the taste of horseshit out of my mouth well yeah go for it it's better than the sequel trilogy for sure hey tell you what has the best lightsaber jewel out of all of Star Wars at the end and enjoy it mate it is great I watched it three times and was never bored JK like hell I'm giving Lucas Phil by buddy well hey rags I heard you made do a rage shadow legends review I recommend watching some ordinary gamers recent rant video about it for research say what for research yeah I guess like he might have some insight on the game that's the name maybe I'm not sure I'm definitely not committing to anything yet I think rags people would love cats oh rags what does that say you see I almost feel like they said it but they don't mean it like when people do that because I think I'll love laughing at it or I don't know it looks like it could be super cringe though it looks horrible filled with nightmare fuel just yeah man I don't know how I feel about it I just think it's almost certainly terrible though just as the spiders foretold yeah the stream was the stream's been coming forever pretty much how do you organize this was it like half a year ago like this is mostly the route of the date we're gonna try and go for and it worked out great it gave everyone a nice bit of time to see the movie Prey BLJ is far better than Rise of Skywalker I rewatched the PT and ST films before ROS and I can attest to this ROS is bottom 3 stars films with episodes 1 and 2 Episodes 1 and 2 are better than TLJ I would agree Episodes 2 well I think Chad's gonna be outraged at the idea that what and 2 are worse than TLJ there are a lot of people there are some people who think such a concept is ridiculous to even consider yeah like TLJ and Rise of Skywalker they are blasphemous now they are the ones that we do not seriously I tried to watch the sibling rivalry review of this movie and as soon as you started spouting like if you think the prequels are better than the Rise of Scott of the last Jedi that you're an idiot I'm not a good talker that's on our list we've got so much to get through I've shot my Jedi general in the head now what I don't know I don't know I don't know what that means is that like a clone wars thing an order 66 thing maybe I'm trying to think of because obviously this would be in the opening are we talking about Hux Hux shooting Kylo maybe I don't know um Merry Christmas you entertaining massives Merry Christmas to you too Best Star Wars I ever saw in cinema never laughed so much everyone was mocking the movie at the relo part someone shouted just kill him already I I can't believe I thought the last Jedi was the worst thing that could possibly happen to Star Wars fuck you JJ Abrams he's did an impressive job who'd have thought we would have gotten to the point where we cannot decide like wow yeah man I don't know it's like TLJ was supposed to be rock bottom but it just keeps on going I don't know I don't know I can decide lies lies and slander well I was I guess I'm referring more sort of like the EFAP community poll this film was so shit it convinced me to make a video I hate it I bought a ticket to cats and snuck into the theater and I still want my money back from Lucasfilm I couldn't stop laughing in the theater and the other five people were bad at me yeah I did I was encouraged to have some more emotional reactions but I knew especially being in Britain I was like well better not ruin it for other people who are actually having fun I guess but um mostly silent there was a couple of giggles here and there um I kind of wish that I had been at a cinema that saw what like a fuck off is it like some portion of it that would be great um to be fair I think Rhino fits J well ah there we go when J was talking about his fist owner I remember yeah of course you could forget because he has big tits mm-hmm I am all the memes yep yeah makes sense uh Merry Christmas Malone Rags Merry Crimbo Merry Crimmof the cursed child Jake Skywalker Harry lol this child is Harry Potter right um Harry Potter in the cursed child I guess that book may have fucked up Harry's character I don't know I actually heard that yeah that Harry's character in the I've watched a review of the play and yeah Harry's character is just destroyed I completely incompetent in that so is that a so that's like a play that's a sequel yeah it's a play that's a sequel of the movies and it's garbage I've seen one review so you know the cursed child mm-hmm okay the cursed child is his son but I don't know mm-hmm so there's three different accounts that have said this now this is the third one waking on my first video to rip this diary apart holy shit my friends said it fixed the fucking trilogy apparently forgetting that retcording is lazy horse cockery Jesus fuck this shit horse cockery horse cockery horse cockery you're flying the fans once more this movie yep I want my money back Disney and compensation for the emotional problem yeah I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't join you for this one ball over here's some money I'm looking forward to hearing what you all think of this train wreck we I don't think we could have been more extensive I think anybody looking to find out what we all think of this movie would absolutely get what they were looking for that was good for a start that was good for yet this is a good base and remember this is just the first of many mm-hmm why is rags pfp so sexy oh man it just hard imitates life you know what they say killed Jay he killed Epstein oh my god I knew it as soon as he gets back here we're gonna have to address that with him I guess that means Jay is a Clinton probably oh my god Jay is Ochi we've been hacked Ochi killed J Joseph Epstein J Epstein J Joseph Epstein Jepstein uh hello all my skywalker words also hi rags hello the rise of Jay Walker a far better film yeah give it a shot directed by who Jeb Bush um Merry Christmas you massives Merry Crumbombulus I'm trying to find different ways of saying the word every time more common normal and Norman I've been provided context for the Anakin uh well the Ray low situation so says okay take in mind that Disney fucked up because Darth Plagueis or Plagueis I think it's Plagueis was supposed to be the Sith that creates Anakin but Disney changed it because they're dumb so when the Jedi or Sith use the force is with the midichlorians that they have within themselves that allow them to channel the energy of the force so every time they use it there's always a residual of them in it so for example if you were to pick up a holocron you would know which Jedi created the holocron because they channeled the force energy through themselves to create it they leave a part of themselves within it so when Palpatine used the force to create Anakin in Shmi it was with his midichlorian slash energy slash power so Anakin is a product of him and would have part of him in him think of it as think of that I guess instead as Slybie Siebert it's Force Siebert yeah midichlorian alright I mean Disney is the way they've handled stars on every level is trash it's just garbage congratulations they did a great job I am all the Jedi and you got a deal with it the Korra references so I saw the horror show of TLJ I went home to watch TFA because I didn't remember it being that bad it was these two films have been soul crushing I will not be going to see TROS without respect we reject well if you're curious about what happened in it you can just check out this stream I suppose we covered the plot right guys yeah it was a little disjointed because the movie was a bit disjointed but we did alright the movie contradicts itself so you have to jump ahead and back every once in a while if you did it chronologically you just confused yourself hi rags hello hi Shad oh g'day have you guys watched The Witcher I have not oh that's out isn't it it's on my list I have not heard anything yet like honestly I haven't heard anyone say it's terrible or great I've heard a good review, a mixed review but overall good so far people would be pointing out like hey gotta check out those sword fights and some people think that's trash one was brilliant and all the other ones were bad so yes I'll have a lot to analyze in that series I swear to god if anyone ever makes fun of episode 1 and 2 again I swear to god if anyone ever makes fun of episode 1 and 2 again hail fellow hateboggers of the toxic brood yay Saturday stream yeah I figure this it makes sense this is the most likely free day for most people right the Sundays can be awkward Friday yeah it's complicated but I mean if you're a betting man which day would you go with for the freest day of the week this was a very special event that I needed to make a very special exception for this once I appreciate it Mr. Shad Merry Christmas all my JJ long bone words I thought JJ did surprisingly well considering what he had to work with but still a hot mess that breaks everything so glad being alive is a disadvantage now JJ tried to fix some of the problems in the previous movie but he made so many more problems and made like a house was damaged and he fixes it just by hitting it with a sledgehammer over and over again he's like I'm trying to help he needs that whenever someone makes a Star Wars movie they need to have an official hired position of someone to say no no no how about no the problem is the disney hire ups to take that upon themselves and they say then do this instead and they make it worse oh yeah they had someone like a canon expert that no one could contradict if he said no no there's contradicts how this is supposed to do it supposedly they had canon experts that approved of the hold over we played that clip oh crap I'm pretty sure people in chat will know because it's not ball faced lie what are the names it's like Pablo Hidalgo I think his name is I forget the names but yeah there was the podcast we watched where they confirmed it man yeah Pablo Hidalgo he's the guy who approved it okay if they said it they were lying through their rear ends as much as JJ saying there was no previous test screenings or that they had planned to bring in Palpatine the whole way like it is so blatantly a lie that you know because with JJ I want to look at it as like alright you tried your best but it didn't come together and you could be still a really nice person stuff like that but with him coming out and blaming people hating the last Jedi because they hate women and then the just absolute bull crap dishonesty has been showing with the release of this movie sorry mate this is reflecting very poorly on your character now not just your ability as a filmmaker it's just my friend who is quite intelligent in most matters fully acknowledges every flaw with the new trilogy yet still loves them unconditionally we're still bros and I've yet to be called a Nazi good to know sane people oh yeah good stuff oh lucky you I think the worst character was Poe they knocked the fuck out of his intelligence to make him consistently make stupid decisions and act like a child his side bitch couldn't even make me care um what would you say his stupid decisions yeah I'm having trouble like I don't know I guess you could call that like jumping thing that he was doing kind of dumb considering the dangers of the now established hold on but I mean like if he's doing it to avoid being captured or destroyed by the first order is it not worth it I'd say it's worth it I mean to some degree like I can imagine that there were so many ways that could have killed them just from the jump itself maybe that's one of them but I'm kind of having trouble with any other aspects also yeah apparently E.R's been here for a while glad you're enjoying listening to us rip into this wonderful movie I'll be looking forward to your view I hope you enjoyed the movie as much as we did people in my theatre applauded the opening crawl and the end credits I want to die I want to watch the trifle my theatre was like nothing yeah ours was pretty tame I guess soon as she says Rey Skywalker is like okay and credits bye everyone just fucked off immediately pretty much I get to watch the trash fire tomorrow so I'll have to dip out also high rags hello and you have why today ahead of you this fucking tells us this is like going down memory lane with super chats wizard poop dimension inside of Catholic Kennedy's head also high rags may the dawn be with you and all hail the toxic brooch hey I love that random video that guy made calling people the toxic brooch it's just stuck so significantly like it won't go away I never usually catch these live so here's some bucks to keep y'all going love you guys thank you very much read the visual dictionary it's all so stupid no isn't that what you were referencing though Mola yes but that was just for clarification on something I don't want to read that book Mola play Cotol 1 and 2 and read wheel of time please they're on a very long list you're terrifying this I can comment on all of them and they're all brilliant oh there you go Mola can you axe wolf which edition slash cut of lord the rings book slash movies I should get also Merry Christmas to all e-fabbers it would be the extended editions and as for the books is there multiple editions of lord the rings books not like in terms of text there are editions but usually editions will just fix up little grammatical things here and there but lord the rings being established for so long that new editions now is just new covers really different size prints and things like my hardcover leather bound hardcover lord of the rings all in one copy it's now got a prize place on my bookshelf and yeah like I said me and rex will do a mini recording and all the super chats that were sent directed to him in his last stream will be asked to him but I'm going to have to like say that we're not going to be passing messages on to him and then back to you guys because that'll be like just unfeasible and I don't think that's something that he's going to want to be doing like I totally appreciate that you're going to want to know like different things or ask different questions but I don't think like wolf wants any kind of sort of public persona anymore even in like answering questions to what would be his fans obviously the the faps we had with him was it a week ago now time fluctuates in my head those are sort of the send off so yeah I just don't want anyone so like anybody who's thinking like I will pay money to have wolf answer a question I'd want to discourage that because you know like the last we want to do is just keep sending questions his way from him to reply or anything he's going to want to be kicking on with what he's pursuing in general so um he's done best comedy of the year better or worse than TLJ oh right well we tried to answer that oh boy Ray Ray and Kylo sitting in a tree PISS ING oh no oh my goodness I try to behave in the theater but the first three words of the crawl sent my friend and I howling this is the funniest movie I've seen all you yep Kylo rages onwards uh chat I like your rise of skywalker video you blackened shade oh thank you and that was a reference to my book if you guys are wondering I appreciate that sir especially the reference absolutely ironic just right and Patrick could save others from bad Star Wars movies but not themselves haha ironic just a sip from Kylo and Ray allowed Palpatine to blast the fleet why didn't he just kidnap and drain all of the broom boys I don't know how it works he just seems to be able to that's because this is the thing right he's like because I drained the dyad I get to be super powerful so could you just drain a thousand people would that give you I don't know well it even seemed like you couldn't drain anyone except if they were in a dyad which is it doesn't make sense I have a special power I could drain force from people but only if they're the dyad very specific um I left the theater salon while when Palp's died to bash my head in the wall five times also hi rags owls for wolf and prayers for Shad weed for moorla I'll happily accept those prayers thank you sir Mary X must you fap can't listen to it in full because I leave for holiday in two hours though instead I'll ask have you seen the fly to no I never actually saw the fly to I haven't seen the fly to fly to I always just knew that it wasn't a particularly great sequel that's always what I understood about it but I never actually watched it um why one though good shit yeah is it possible we can make it canon that Ray force drained the life out of Kyla with that kiss also hi wags yeah she mooted him she's a killer she she finished the job this time Ray is so screwed up people clapping at the end of the movie they collapse mean nothing I've seen what makes the boo that is a reference to uh wait Rick and Morty also hi wags williams is a hypocrite piece of shit oh yeah he's really twisting in the wind isn't he he's not happy about everybody holding his words to him stop it I love how he said I love how he said that's not what I said like it's a photo of you holding a sign up that says that hello there Russian hackers doctor that image hello there my first super chat I am glad this bad trilogy ended so I can pretend it doesn't exist Mary Donmus you massives also hi rags hello this movie made me want to die and I already knew the leaks yeah the leaks don't they can try and prepare you but the leaks don't ultimately take care of that aspect not always just watched it today thought that the adverts for an Indian online casino website were very tastefully done not so much for the rest oh you mean like all of the Star Wars related ones because that's the thing right we've all talked about how we experienced a lot of ads but we all probably got different ones yeah probably it was crazy I got a trailer for Sonic in my one uh Shad have you seen the first battle in the new Witcher series to me it seems really bad not yet yeah exactly it's making me nervous um Ray's lightsaber equals yellow because she was taking the piss oh we never mentioned yeah Ray got herself a new lightsaber it's yellow yeah she just she built got herself a crystal and built a one it wasn't a big event for me I don't know what the point was like why even cares technically it's supposed to be part of a Jedi's final training that they make their own lightsaber she trained like five minutes yeah she knows how to do that that's all you get okay she gathered the materials to make one and then had the knowledge do it she bypassed the compressor and boom lightsaber easy peasy I mean she was going to come in here with a Jedi because Luke was able to build one and I don't know where he would have learned either but they do that they make they make lightsabers comes with a force uh Patrick obviously watched the movie wrong oh it just feels so sweet doesn't it just throw all the people were saying that to him but that with uh just right people like you need to watch the movie through like the correct lens you need to evolve as a critic yeah how does it feel buddy delicious so I hear the leaks are under 90 percent accurate I would I think I said 60 to 70 percent accurate there's a lot of things that don't quite make it in but there's loads of stuff that does oh yeah man uh there were no pre-screenings of the movie so they just can't the leaks must be false because they couldn't have come from anywhere it's like no screens to all the guests, wolf, rags and mullah without your content we'd all be poorer in keeping with this time of year here's some tokens for festive beer cheers and happy Christmas to all and to you too thank you Palpatine's dead eyes mirrored my own as I watched molyutism you're reading quotes wrong oh is that uh maybe in relation to me reading out that that paragraphs I don't know maybe um I only read what the screen shot had unless that's a reference to something I'm missing which is probably the case it's alright um commander mohler my time has come execute a efap 66 also hi rags efap 66 was indeed executed you know originally I was going to put all the names of the guests in the title and I could only fit like half so I was like well I guess I'll just not have any little um I watched Shad's review amazing also hi rags hello thank you that made me angry doing that review and came through sending this to show I was here for this momentous event hi all hi rags hello so glad to see this awesome group of people discussing our OS keep up the great work guys we nailed it it took seven hours but we got there we had a good bunch I could totally see so many people be like how the fuck did you say energize talking about this for seven hours and I just be like our hatred makes us stronger what exactly motivates kylo to fix his mask those red lines across the mask are just ridiculous but hey I was told it looks cool shut up yeah I have no idea at least he's dark slide I don't know with tlj they kind of imply he's hiding behind it and he has to take it off because he's like a silly bass piece of shit and tfa it was like he's using it because he idolizes vader but in this film he's just like well it's my mask like oh that's me it just it screams me like I think if you would ask him in universe as a character he'd have been like well Ryan destroyed it and so JJ wants me to repair it I'd be like oh okay my father was excited to take me to star wars for my birthday sadly I had to burst his bubble and convince him to take me to Jumanji 2 instead I've heard that's good which is good news because I like the first one it's not like I think it's a great film but it made me laugh so hopefully the next one's good as well I know I'm very disappointed that my theory about Palpatine using the Death Star chunk to surf through the ocean didn't happen good day my dear massives we don't know that it didn't happen I think we can safely assume it did I think that would have been the happiest moment in his life surfing it through space and onto the waves holy hell made it to my first stream I have to say fuck you rags respond back to my messages our child has your nose and sunglasses you can't escape your responsibility oh my goodness I I must say I'm shocked um hello to everybody else here's to a good stream yes sir slash man stream yeah it was very good stream so far holes in management equals plot holes in entertainment who do you think sent that right holes in metal I think I have an eye mm-hmm does it hurt objectively this e-fap will be superior to the movie I rags I think our e-fap was more accurate and consistent than the movie so so yeah I feel like I don't feel like I've been betrayed by myself in any way yeah like who was the most inconsistent in the e-fap probably jakes who went to sleep yeah I rag tag the rad dad man or rad deadman dad man muller invite jay then kick jay oh we did we did yeah we did that yeah he has been invited and kicked this is my first e-fap live I wish everyone a mary fatmas may the memes be with you very kind horse horse teleportation is so fucking stupid it hurts yeah I know I agree that's a smart comment right there I got excited when Ray died and then she woke up oh imagine being the director you see everybody like celebrate when she dies you're like oh jeez oh cut cut cut cut that's the movie they did it I don't know about his freedom in relation to disney but there's a good chance that could have been something he did he like cuts the scene there it fades to black as kyla's holding her and then like everyone's celebrating the victory across the universe and they just have this unused shot of kylo like looking forward and then he's just looking at luke's home or something like that other than credits like oh shit like there's ways to make it happen but we got what we got finals guy walker I'm gonna see rise of skywalker tomorrow I'll watch this on mula later don't let your brains turn to goop analyzing it now we watched each other's back we survived yeah mine mine is melted a long time ago tlj prepared us for this this is awesome in a way I am 30 minutes from seeing the film and then I'll have this efap to wash the taste out of my mouth afterwards in the event I retain my sanity that is wish me luck massive I fear I will need it good luck good luck sir is this a 66 hours long efap also hi wags hello no not 66 hour long efap no schnicks the schnicks um two tonald patrick sorry even gonna do for efap no idea me and rags will have to brainstorm on that 100 hour stream 10,000 hours we mean forever once one hour for every star destroyer no we don't even know how many there were there could have been loads more offscreen two tonald patrick jenny and jack without your CRP content there would be no efap in keeping with this time of year here's some tokens for my milky rhino tears bar humbug you massives thank you very much there comes a time in all forms of media consumption we are so utterly bewildered by an event taking place there are so many things wrong with it that you don't have the words and you simply laugh that is from my first or second game of thrones video where the dragon gets shot in the neck i was like this doesn't make sense for about a million reasons we have to stop i remember that i am getting the sleepies i think i'm gonna poop out now you wanna give a plug to your i guess twitch channel in this case i guess it is the twitch yes i don't do the youtube yet talk a bit about that mel what do you mean i will i will what do you mean bait them i'm trying what you said bait them now i'm working on the john rick video still obviously i've been recording it's gonna take a little bit because i have no idea what i'm doing mostly i was trying to do my best but otherwise i'm pretty regularly streaming on the on the twitch the metal commander twitch yeah we drop in every once in a while though in the next few days it's gonna be unlikely because i'm just non-stop working on something but yeah there's a lot of deep lore on the twitch channel some of the drank lages and some of them just hanging out in general playing some halo as you do i've probably even streamed on the 24th oh look at that Christmas Eve stream nothing else to do after i had all the eatings the family stuff oh wait okay yeah i'll tell you that i can secret but what is a secret if not to be distrusted that's what i've always lived by abraham lincoln twice well thanks for hanging out for eight and a half hours i hope it was everything you dreamed it would be and more and more exactly many more yeah you guys have one of the chatted things of the supers that should go pretty well here you go bye bye and then there were four and then only the true ones remained the movie would have been ten times better if someone said where are those droidekar well those droidekar where are those it's weird because someone call them destroyers don't they the movie did have a do it in it and so like we did it that's when he was telling red to kill him oh my god i didn't even notice really i think i was too consumed by hate to enjoy the memes man i'm gonna enjoy that in hd eventually snatch it out look let's compare the scenes that you see like the one from episode 3 it's much stronger in meme value alright we're looking at a 7.8 7.8 and then over to riser skywalker and we're looking at a much lower a carbon copy like three meme values is not as strong do you reckon there's any meme of all things from this movie what are the memes of tlj um just you know tlj is 2 years old so what do we mean about that one of the things that we kind of almost laughing kind of with the film a little bit um i don't know i'm drawing a blank um the jedi are taking over um yeah man i i don't nothing comes to mind the sacred text that's one i've seen that meme a few times the sacred text i'll give him that that's one yep yeah um well um oh ben swolo you're right that is one ben swolo alright two memes oh the milking scene i suppose that counts yeah i was kind of thinking of i was kind of thinking of portables oh well i just mean memes in general right like save what you save what you love is that one right that's yeah yeah saving what you love see i don't sorry i'm just reading the chat right now there so this is not coming from my memory it's all credit to the chat fire on that cruise is that a beam every everything you said was every word of what you just said is wrong yeah that's one i guess um we have layup poppins layup see because these are slightly different with each one like some of them are just directly like making fun of the movie while some are laughing kind of with the movie like i feel like ben swolo is kind of like laughing along with it while layup poppins is like trying to humiliate it yeah it's very silly doesn't it subverted expectations uh is that that was more the jedi all the the essayists yeah in the movie itself they were the ones that ruined that even though i'm sure ryan would have been like i did subvert expectations that's another one i was looking for your expectations are like you guys expected something from tlj and you were subverted that's the only thing you're complaining about yeah you thought it was good but turned out to be bad there are some memes but this one yeah barbie frick i hope he gets into meme hood oh um from uh yeah i am all the jedi i reckon that's gonna be meamed or i am all the sir yeah but what i found out about that light i was just like oh that's bad um at least for the most part the prequels were intended to serve and further the story of the characters of the ot like anakin obi-wan and yoda i don't think they pulled it off very well but the intention was good however disney star wars has done nothing but destroy the ot uh yeah i think the conversation is actually interesting like how much damage was dealt to anakin obi-wan and yoda and how much do you think their histories were enriched by the prequels you could sort of have a discussion about all of that however with with the ot like if someone says how much do you think hud solo has been improved with the ot you'd be like why would you even say that oh no why how dare you mention his name in makare hello all except fringy oh my god maulet diehard is objectively a christmas movie uh yeah i'm fine with that shad thoughts on missiles that deploy swords oh yeah so hang on where is this coming from first is there any context let me show you a picture yeah we talked about it um let me show you a picture of it okay if our if our being shot come all first well that's you know weapons of mass destruction right there yeah here we here's a picture but this is a real thing what how it knows but at least i don't know how far where six places of the last second basically in order to cut down on collateral damage and civilian casualties instead of an explosive warhead they have sort of six blades that stick out of it before it hits so that it basically just really fucks up that one person a whole lot no kidding like yeah that'll work yeah that'll do it yeah just well designer was like yeah and six swords stick out of it and everyone was like it's brilliant johnson i am honestly a proponent of the theory that sword adding swords to anything improves it so i give this big thumbs up what about adding swords to swords double sword it depends like if it's like a double bladed sword sticking in directions like Darth Maul that works Thanos is one is more stupid because the blades are facing in the opposite directions and raise one in her dark version is just retarded beyond the leaf so it depends but if there is no sword already always adding a sword is an improvement that's my theory and this ends with also high fringy so they said hi to everybody and oo-woo rags oo-woo probably won't see it in theaters but eventually i will want to watch episode 9 really drunk and just laugh at it is it worth the time for that or no probably yeah watch with a friend yeah watch with a friend who is kind of similar on that yeah drink and be merry be merry yeah don't be surprised if the pacing makes you dizzy and sick oh my god Mary we didn't talk about how Mary is in this film oh yeah Dominic Monaghan's i don't know why he's in it he is i know that yeah that's right he is Mary's in it oh oh yeah from Lord of the Rings Mary what he's just like he's there he's doing nothing he's just he makes comments about you know dark force and cloning he's the one who says let's do some holdover doovers yeah holdover doovers holdover doovers why was he in the film like is it one of those like Daniel Craig cameos where he just loves it and wanted to be in it i guess but but like it's more it's just a bit more than a cameo if you know what i mean so it's like you wonder what was going on there but all right it's just like he's a rebel he's a pretty he's of all the rebels just the rebel crew he's fairly prominent as far as they are concerned but i was like yeah it's Mary yeah my pippin was he was oh yeah i guess john williams had a cameo did you guys support it uh no i don't know what john williams looks like he's an old man maybe i saw him let's see john williams cameo uh let's take a look john williams cameo um i'd like it if he showed me picture i think it was kajimi but they're walking through a bar and he's like the bartender and it gives him like a full shot and he's like yeah i i got you yeah i i remember who you're talking about because because i noticed they focused on the bartender and i'm like is this like an homage to like the bartender like episode something i couldn't quite put my finger on it but i knew there was a reason that he was they focused on him and i'm like man there's surely there's a reason for that um a bold decision to have a piss yellow lightsaber now to be fair right i i think the yellow lightsaber looks cool i think that's a fine lightsaber coat when i play jedi night jedi academy my lightsaber was yellow it's cool it looks cool and i ain't going to apologize for it it's fucking sweet going back to what i was saying at the beginning of the stream i think there's a prejudice against the color red in the lightsaber star wars canon and i want to complain because red is awesome i want a red lightsaber yeah red's the color of communism and yellow's the color of bananas which means orange is like a banana that's a communist orange what about orange banana communist no communists don't have food oh what about a banana that sentient who became a communist banana fric yeah that's him but babu fric but he's just not orange he's kind of just like alien colors he's that's racist of me i should have said that babu fric let me get a picture of babu fric he's he is like a grayish what's this move over baby yoda babu fric is the new cutie of the star wars fuck off not even clones oh my goodness the appeal of babu fric isn't about cuteness it's more like weird with a strange voice y'all look at that tiny person bull fucking shit trying to be cute with him baby yoda that's tough that's pretty tough babu fric is not going to be the contender how do y'all feel about disney and lucas films spitting in george's general direction with discarding his outlines and basically flushing his creation i'll say that they're certainly behaving in character he didn't go to the premiere either he wasn't invited or he just didn't go as the birth says volumes yeah i'll say for those of you in the chat i was reading that as an article on twinfinite.net so that's bullshit go over there leave an angry comment i don't know if i could do that don't do that i meant that ironically hang on don't actually in a video game okay uh happy holidays and all that folks glad to finally see the fall of disney star wars rags if we do manage to schedule your time in my star wars rpg what kind of character would you fancy playing uh babu fric i would have very very low strength in wisdom but i would have extremely high dexterity and intelligence with um i'd be very very good at mechanics and engineering but i would have like no combat capabilities whatsoever i'd be a pure utility character and i would go hey there you go there you go is that your mating call or is that just a general sort of hello no that's that's the mating call whenever they hear that whenever i walk into the cantina and i go ayyyy you can just hear the panties hitting the yeah that makes sense uh those fields for cancer patients who saw it early i mean i know right they have to have two deaths now it's cool that they do that for those people but holy shit i wonder if any of them were like that was terrible i know it's like like oh man it's a shame i hung on i'm suffering enough um i missed the prequels they're underrated good rat it's because of the sequels that everyone is re relooking and people have this theory that once the sequel sequels come out that we will relook at the sequels and be like you know what the sequels the sequels the sequel sequels mm-hmm oh my god uh this one just says ooo is more just gonna beat this dead space horse this entire stream i mean it's not it just came out it's not dead yet it's gonna be dead but not dead yet also pal pete oh i thought he meant dead space horse and i'm like dead space didn't have what and i was like oh dead space horse not dead space horse so this says also pal pete forced himself into shimmy hashtag shimmy2 shimmy2 that has some very deep implications it's true there's like pal pete palpitism uh lastly hi rags hello i'm just upset that the akbar still out there theory didn't pan out yeah well yeah let's not forget they flushed him out the window in uh in tlj that was fun they replaced him with like a people hid homeless lady for reasons i'm just a sequel trilogy is the jay of the star wars films hi rags ooo ooo hey guys haven't seen the movie quick question do they use y wings yes too great effect it takes a y wing merely seconds on its own to destroy an entire star destroyer the chad y wing versus the virgin tlj bomb it it's a space fortress or something which they were in the shot people have uh it's a part of the enormous amount of ships but obviously we all know that the y wing is way better i mean i would say it's walking but if you're going into battle with that maybe it's best that you're just not there does it be walk is pretty slow like i could just get out like i could see it on the surface like taking off and there's just a guy walking past it as it's moving uh by the way typo on my last stream ray r34 is not half bad oh oh i i'm sure yeah she's not ugly we need a rogue squadron movie with wedge antilles why not just you know what do everything because i think everybody's rude now that wedge was in the movie yep he was like good shooting or flying lando and i was like oh are they gonna show him more than the ones he was on the gun on the millenium falcon i think was he i thought he was in his own ship i think he was manning the gun turret uh shad loved your review thank you i appreciate it drinker loved part one of your review looking forward to the rest also looking forward to the rest of your reviews eviscerating this disney hate fiction sequel hate fiction hey the only good parts are that four storm is now canon asoka talked and c3p i went from being a cameo to giving one liners i disagree with that it's not canon don't even say don't even joke about that and most people find the fact that asoka talked to be a very bad thing because it confirms that she's dead well i mean that i feel like you can't really get around that she would have to be you'd think unless well you can make something up Darth Vader in the showdown in Darth Vader between him and asoka in rebels he couldn't kill her and he knocked her out and put her in carbon light or something and she's been frozen the entire time it could be captured or secluded there's a lot of different sort of things they could do but i think it's just there's something to the idea that like being told someone's dead without having been you know consume the content in which they had died just like wow okay like it obviously felt bad for those fans yeah you'd want to know how at least but that would have been kind of cool if Darth Vader did just you know spare her life but keep her trapped away because she is a pretty you know cool kind of I have plans for you and then he died before he could do his plans well he might want another midi chlorine baby so yeah not another one that sorry because it would be his first one my penis is fourth degree burns was the Han Solo scene new or old footage from tfa scene i hear the dialogue was very similar also hi J i think it was new that would be my guess i don't know for sure but he looked a little different from how he looked in tfa he did look different he did look different and it made me wonder if he was computer model yeah maybe i don't know how would we be able to prove it we would need Harrison Ford's like i guess him saying that he was in it i guess otherwise yeah i can't know for sure he was making that movie with that cgi dog and he was like maybe i went to cgi maybe i shouldn't have left star wars maybe the cgi the trailer for that film looked weird that was one of the trailers for seared riser skywalker i was like what the hell what the fuck is this oh man oh my god the most shocking part of riser skywalker was when rey finally closed her mouth for one minute anyway have a mary jeb must p.s. hi wags hello and she did yes yes she has been known to do it every once in a while pretty neat so did c3po say the n word he didn't he did not he did but it was in sith so only the only the og n words could it was a hate crime by the galactic senate remember when anthony daniel sort of came out and said he would have liked it if like the ot characters were given more like time or whatever and he got like blasted by the the crazy fans again these people are crazy it's funny because imagine being him you're like recording for this next new film the end of the skywalker saga you don't you still don't share a scene with luke or han or leia everyone's dead yeah you got you got shibaka right i mean you don't remember him for half the film but he's there it's just kind of crazy it's just like yeah no wonder he felt all of these characters are in these movies they spend basically no time together but they're all here alone as individuals not together oh damn uh the dagger of mortism oh yeah because it was called mortis right and the mortis that could have been interesting i can't stand it no i know but like if there was a different plotline entirely and it involved some you know broken sith ancient dagger called the dagger of mortis maybe that could have worked maybe who knows maybe if it looked like a dagger oh yeah as long as it wasn't had this stupid location that's supposed to be secret written on it and it wasn't like this rule where it's supposed to point to you know like those clion daggers like those look intimidating um hey mola when can we expect your unbridled rage rage for rise of skywalker i would say at a push a week's time it's gonna be a long one so it means i've got a lot of editing to do and if i was like non-stop doing editing i might be able to do it in that amount of time but yeah um i got another draft to do hopefully tomorrow today in my time um and then i'll be recording and then it's just editing editing editing which you know it takes time i there's no way it's gonna come out for christmas uh hopefully the new year maybe new year's day that could be cool um that'll be that uh i'm excited to get it out it's gonna be fun um um efap is great and all but it doesn't compare to your exquisite unbridled rages don't worry it's on the way um hi mola hello hi rags hello to quote luke what a piece of junk was it me or was it the very last scene edited very badly the worst part about the movie was how hollow it felt and nothing felt earned oh completely agreed nothing was it it was all pay off no build up it was all just just just it's like being max level in a game right from the get go and there was no journey to earn it and you don't know what it's like to be weak and there's no weight to it there's no perspective on how far you've come nope um release the lucas cut seems a lot more appealing than release this night at cut so without further ado release the lucas cut um i'd be interested to know what lucas tried to do with it i don't know how it's salvageable though like i don't know what you would have to work with that would have been you know workable seems like it would be a disaster i don't want yeah out of any of the rumors that one is the one that seems the most thin about george lucas making a whole cut and that they filled all new footage to make for it that one i don't know i like if it exists great i just need to see it to believe it but for that one um i mean i'm sure a metric fuck ton of people didn't go see the film so those who saw it may have just been predisposed to liking it probably not though doesn't think there are a couple of explanations for that ron tomato score it's just not what i expected and i just keep coming back to that i guess seeing it i'm just like how it's uh it's fine um hello guys if you're into wrestling see if you get this star wars before disney was attitude era wwf star wars is now wwe today uh metal commander is a big fan of wrestling he could have answered that for us well i actually used to watch wwf back in the day when i was wwf a little bit as a you know as a teenager and so i i do kind of get it i don't haven't seen too much of wwe so only a little bit do i get that reference so why are you doing this when it's too early in the day to drink well theoretically it would have become you know later so i wonder if john sena had a cameo an episode i hope he did i hope so too then this would be something good about how can tlj defenders say it would be boring to have an op luke yet they make ray the same thing also strange that this is now the palpatine saga yes it is strange and i guess they don't see ray as op for some reason what what is the general opinion on that from tlj sort of fans do they think she's op i think this movie has convinced them that she is you'd hope so because it's off the scale god i'd rather staple my dick to a ceiling fan and self administer a sulfuric acid enema than watch that autistic fuckfest again whoever made it needs to have their kneecaps ground to dust hashtag legion of raw that's aggressive yeah that's what i thought that's graphic i don't know if i go that far extreme look after yourself you don't want to be doing that there's no coming back some hot guy slapped my ass but i wouldn't go much further than that ray didn't need to start out on her Todd on her own or it says t.o. Todd on her oh she should have been a child of two or more senior jedi in luke's new jedi order and not op as hell that would have been an idea and they would have had a history with kylo there's so many options they could have taken whatever you're thinking in your head right now it's better than what we got yes yes more than waiting for this hi all tear this shit show apart and buy above the storm on amazon great fantasy with no mary sues i have not heard of it but fair enough critics gave it a bad review because it doesn't pander to alt left stuff also rags yes poop with your door open we're watching never no one watches me as i poop pooping is something i do in private the entire cinema laughed when ben died after the kiss also the knights of ran are like the spanish inquisition something happens camera pans and they just appear out of thin air it's a joke there yeah man the knights of ran were fucking lame again they're another element of like why were you in this felt go away and they were an invention of JJ you think you would have treated him with a bit more you know um yeah give him more purpose why do they even exist there was so much wandering and the only thing that they eventually did was just beat kylo's ass apparently on her toad means on her own i've never heard that before and they said well are you british or not i've lived it for my whole life i've never heard the expression on her toad on her toad no i've never heard that and a lot of people that try to emulate like british lexicon and everything but i've never heard that on her toad on her toad on her toad this is one of the best known examples of cockney rhyming slang it means on your own alright yeah i've never heard that one on your toad to add to your point about luke's Jedi order shad the his order was something Anakin himself would have been proud of there you go um game time started been here before rags sent a chat to himself and i was still there when we watered our jabs let this be the time we can all say episode 66 we were there we were indeed would you rather have cat girls who have human ears and cat ears or just cat ears eye wags just cat just cat ears i feel like the redundancy would be really off putting how would you want two types of ears yeah man i just just the cat ears would be perfectly fine they're soft you know the phrase velvety soft like a puppy dog's ear it'd be like that just a cat on a you know dainty glass never heard that saying yeah well there you go maybe i just made that up on the spot and i'm pretending i heard it from somewhere else but um execute efap 66 save for bits and pieces i refuse to accept disney's cannon the throne trilogy tfu and the rest of the eu is true cannon i mean i'm sure it's better i should so yeah could it really be worse yeah at this point i'm just legit like fuck this sequel trilogy just don't think about it it's not real it's not real it's the last uh if they made a reboot of star wars the obvious choice for a recast would be a black jewish woman uh for who luke yeah that's what i was about to say luke for luke i guess it makes sense darth vader is played by medea mhm first thing i would have loved it if the new trilogy had the galaxy split in two the republic and the empire each ruling their halves of the galaxy in peace and the first order coming in as a third faction that's a theory that's an idea at least that would have been world building it would have showed that the republic had some kind of control over something you wouldn't need to call them republican empire but the idea that after the empire is defeated the galaxy splits into like two significant portions in terms of like that could be pretty cool so depressing how the republic was just a non-existent thing in this sequel series they inhabited a bunch of planets that all got invisible that was all they're dead, they're gone they're nothing now all five of those planets they're just gone forever they're just destroyed can't use them anymore i'm assuming one of them was coruscant it would have to be a lot of people think that apparently whatever visual dictionaries do confirm it's not coruscant speaking of which during that whole movie i wonder what's going on in coruscant yeah i wonder what's happening there i wonder what people think about all this we don't get to know what happens there i wonder how people feel about these things that we're watching execute effap66 rise of skywalker was better than game of thrones season 8 um yes because game of thrones season 8 all of the main characters rise of skywalker didn't do much with many of the characters didn't kill c3p0 did a good job with them what character was well served by season 8 of game of thrones it's like not really anybody um rise of skywalker doesn't even look or feel like a jj film i'm gonna give a hard disagree on that one i did a lot of lens flaring i felt like all the visuals are very sort of thing and then the feel the constant mysteriousness the macguffininess i don't know i felt like i was watching a jj film mystery box behind a mystery box complete incapability of telling a story and like sith land all that lightning it was actually really hurting my eyes yeah i said on the other stream just the idea that you have different sources of light that are changing and making emperor palatine look kind of like it's hard to make him out consistently the first few seconds i thought that was kind of a cool idea and then it got old super quick and i was like i can't fucking focus like this is getting really annoying um i guess if they just showed him last i probably would have been more okay with it but yeah it's so flickery and uh i didn't get what in my cinema but apparently there was epilepsy warnings i didn't get a warning but it was it was hard on the eye so let me say this i accidentally bought a ticket for a 3d showing yeah i know right i went to i gave the guy my ticket and then he handed me my glasses and i'm like wait what this is in 3d and he's like yep and so i said fuck i watched it all in 3d it added absolutely nothing to the experience because it's a 3d movie it was fine it was like fine it was i would have preferred it normal but it wasn't you know terrible but man those flashes something about them just the depth that they had some of them were just oh it was rough not a fan of 3d movies would avoid i can't stand 3d movies with the exception of when i saw dread the new dread movie the newish one in 3d and it actually worked pretty well i like the exception not the rule so the jab speak you are writing new star wars movies the sequels are still canon how do you fix the force ghost problem it takes place a thousand years in the future and everyone forgets how they did it i mean i would have to try and make the idea that the island was special and they could only just run the island i think that's the other solution yeah yeah that's not a not a terrible idea there we go new solutions and both accounting for different timelines uh oh dear lord it was as bad as the leaks were told rip star wars maybe you'll be better in the next go around i like how that's our attitude with all the new reboots we're like well better luck next time every time why always what i'm working long man why isn't that well theoretically that could end up being better if we can keep you company but um also with how long the streams go unless you've got a bigger than nearly 12 hour shifts should be able to catch a portion of it at a certain point six of the Jedi at the end who talked never appeared in a movie why would JJ give adi galley or gaily Ezra and kanan or canon more dialogue than anakin no idea probably trying that might have been mandated for all we know to try and boost those those sort of shows in a way if that makes sense um include more because the whole you know like the whole i really feel like endgame kind of got ripped off you know like the whole everybody's coming to to win the day all the characters we know from all these different areas like oh look see y'all so so great oh cool yeah sort of assist that why because of disney they will now be a palpatine porn alright oh man help the porn episode nine gave me the tism tremors i'll need several dosages of rhino milk and an extra long fab to cure them the tism well see this is the problem now so 1155 is that normal or is that long for efeb 1155 oh man is 11 hours and 55 minutes normal for efeb that is the question i don't know the average human is dead so who knows what the average efeb that's true rags spit and truth the thing he's attached to looks like what dragon megatron is attached to in beast machines i like the comparison to glados i think that's funny yeah it's i will say this it did look creepy certainly had the creep factor going for it that strange mechanical arm attached to who knows what up top holding him in place extremely impractical makes no sense but it looked creepy so uh perma kick j for uttering the words immigrant song you know the song from thor agnarok i know he's young he doesn't he doesn't understand the world right and he's has been kicked so it's all good uh spends decades lying in wait patiently building a massive secret military somehow and at the last minute transmits this info to the galaxy without any defenses in place palpatine was the spy anybody see i hear everything's episode nine review he sounded like a defeat defeated loser having to cope with the fact his precious baby sucks now it's pretty funny um yeah he's he's spoke to me about how like his his perception on tlg is definitely changed from when he first saw it and that uh this one was bad you know and put on him for kind of reassessing his views on it smoke slash palpatine killed off the caminoeans so shitty clones of course they killed the clone makers and so they're making shitty clones yeah if only they had the Kaminoans around then man he would have had some fucking bang ass clones i feel the need to say force heal eliminates the entire reason anakin has to turn to the dark side for padme the entire story's reason is gone pretty much i mean if it could heal a deadly lightsaber stab right through the chest then sure it could probably mend a uterus surprised you referenced that instead of bringing somebody back to life that that's just what came to mind yeah i guess uh ray i don't think anyone knows who i am me crawling by skin i loved it when kylo was about to ram ray with his ship and she just stood there for ages and when he pounded her into the ground on the death star wreckage and she saved his life anyway i was reminded of all the times in college where i'd verbally abuse girls or shove them into walls if they pissed me off only for them to lovingly defend me afterwards around all of their friends based some chicks are crazy man and she certainly was in that moment you know kylo's getting some mixed signals he was like whoa you killed me but then you're like healing me okay cool thanks thanks a lot man i am inevitable i am iron man i am all the sith i am all the jedi coincidence i know uh oh and now my number seven film gone girl thoughts also hyrax hello i like gone girls could shit um i don't know i don't think i've actually spoken to anybody about whether or not any of you guys seen gone girl i have not i have not i have to see what chat thinks of gone girl review away folks tlj is an absolute mess i cannot defend that's from ihra i had everything yeah his mind's definitely changed on it uh bruh palpatine was that actually from him i mean it's quoted i'd have to watch his video i watched half of his video i can't remember if he'd said that already at that point um bruh palpatine announced his return in fortnite instead of the film lol i'm a zoomer but shish that's two films fortnite's ruined this year it's weird i wish fortnite would get out of movies yeah i can't believe that we had to kind of begin a lot of this conversation with the fact that fortnite was a relevant topic we had to discuss for this rise of skywalker review that's where we're at we did it yay uh car palpatine got hit with his own lightning three times i would have stopped personally three times we got oh of course when you fought yoda i guess yoda would have blasted it back at him is that the three times uh oh when vader picks him up does that count yeah i would say so because then he's kind of roasting himself as he's about every time i think of that scene i think of the ah and he falls down and then what i'm like and he's alive i have been temporarily inconvenient like all that sound the soundtrack it finally comes down vader's looking down the whole just here asshole i'll be back like calls an elevator from down there it's like ding oh my god you ass uh did the new sith troopers ever show up they did but i there was no reason why they wouldn't be normal troopers i don't know why there was could it be toys could it be toys stormtroopers they can do anything yeah like they didn't do anything that we hadn't seen you know whatever they just there to shoot people and miss and then get killed now the best part about palpatine's announcement is that the announcement to the galaxy actually happened in fortnight look it up i liked when palpatine raised all the star destroyers all those massive roofs all the impending planetary genocides i felt like a kid on christmas okay i'm glad you got some out of it man most people were just upset uh holy balls over 8300 people watching good job guys jesus christ testicles well i mean yeah if you've seen them i find that for this do not talk about these testicles i'm at work currently but i can't wait to listen to this all the way through i've been waiting for this all year love you guys drink your rhino milk and obey the spiders visions merry christmas and a happy new year merry christmas i hope you enjoyed star wars merry star wars merry star wars happy life day star wars is dead uh agent 47 with his address on his pistols there's so many comparisons you can make yeah that's kind of uh yeah that's what we're like and i know this applies to a lot of movies but just every step of the way with jj he says like this is what's gonna happen this is like this he has the guffin fucking thing on the knife you'd be like why why you know that's really dumb jj you don't have to the movies not out we can write this out easily without any problem hi buddy we've got time i know this is the way it's gotta be hey uh why is killing palpatine in hate worse than killing billions of stormtroopers oh because they did those with a smile on their face i guess one protects the universe while the other one is like a more of a personal thing like he wants to kill palpatine for his own personal gain and you might be like well wouldn't kill him palpatine save the galaxy it's like well it depends on what your motivation to do it is and that was kind of what he was wrestling with in episode six it's like uh obviously anakin kills palpatine to save his son so it's like you know he kind of like defends what he loves instead of attacking what he hates you know i mean don't like sometimes it could be good to kill evil horrible people who want to destroy planets maybe that's not so bad maybe if you know you're not really a bad person like as he throws the upper dab rose i would say hating a genocidal tyrant isn't a bad thing i'd say wow that's like your opinion bro yeah you're okay you're all right you did good yeah i was gonna say like rose would have disproved of what vader did should have been like hey man put him down that is disgusting stop hate killing what you hate and palpatine's like thank you rose that's what i told them all the time they don't listen to me people never ask how's palpatine mm-hmm the super duper star destroyers are from a space wizard intended for slave children sheev willams you know what if you could if i could get the take from any one of the video assas it probably would have been him about this film knowing that they all were gonna hate it all people who like tlj it would have been him because uh i just like i want to see how he structure his video while avoiding falling into the trap of being too emotional about it because he's not allowed to be from his own metric so how would he do it how would he avoid all the lad minds and what would he criticize because remember he's not allowed to touch inconsistencies because that's not relevant it's you have to go after what was his thing do you remember rags it's like efap3 i'm going back to he said like valid criticisms when you talk about i think character motivations i think was one of them i can't remember it's been uh it's been a while i can't quite remember it has been a while he said some dumb shit he did you're right um albertine kill me and i will win ray no i won't two minutes later ray grr kills him my brain da dum de da da doid yeah did we ever talk about well like doesn't his spirit like he she killed him so his that's what he wanted right well this so this is what i was thinking about did they have her die in order to argue that his spirit couldn't get into her body but that doesn't make sense right because he can inhabit like zombie bodies yeah i think that's why the lightning they had to make the lightning shoot himself when reflected into his face so he doesn't matter the whole point is the he was inhabiting a zombie body right that was the whole thing so it the the state of the body isn't necessarily relevant compared to his spirit doing his floaty runs and running around yeah so i don't and this is the thing you cannot establish to us directly that if she kills him he goes into her you're like oh wow okay mechanically i understand the rules and then she kills him and he doesn't like okay alright like i know it would have been really goofy but to really nail it you would have had to have had his spirit come out of his body and go for her then she directs the lightning at the spirit the spirit goes explodes like the defenders will say no she had to have killed him during that ritual and if it's not done during a ritual he can't inhabit it that will be what people will say what ritual yeah or he killed himself so it doesn't count he starts a ritual it's like she takes the lightsaber she will raise it to her that's a ritual he's just saying stuff that's what a ritual is but that's what people will say that's what a ritual is people saying stuff that sounds like the big gay tros is better than tlj only because it lacks pretentiousness tlj thinks it's smarter than you tros goes out of its way to prove it's dumb certainly one way to look at it it's one way did anyone notice the memory of han accidentally moved kylo's hair when he touched his face there was a fizz yeah he touched his face i mean his hand was on his face that would certainly go into the category of arguments that support the idea that he's not strictly a a memory but that's probably an accident i don't fucking know it's kind of confusing that's a mistake i mean even if there was no hair move you could argue that when he touched the cheek the cheek was actually impressed by the pressure and so yeah excellent did anyone else think that the knife looked like a rampant rabbit a rampant rabbit no it looked stupid it didn't look sharp it didn't look deadly it looked silly when the ruler part came out of it it looked even cooler right guys oh yeah time to measure up miss stab um palpatine fried the entire resistance fleet but couldn't fry two lightsaber hilts what a bitch exactly that was my point ray commits identity fraud changed my mind nope not changed my mind imagine how awkward that would be if one like she's taken the name of one of the most famous heroes in the universe and they're like you're it's like daughter and she's like no sure yeah yeah it's like well with who's the parents is like uh um mera jade oh was not gonna say anyone my night's and I are going hunting me these wounds will not heal oh that's uh that's Lincoln Park again um I had to go out of my way en route to the cinema to find a bottle of Johnny Walker and a flask in which to sneak it into the theater but I'm so glad I made the extra effort last time I felt this one out of last time I felt this was uh when I drove an hour to see the Irishman best part was around the start of the final battle all the coconut cups was gone and only scotch was left I was laser focused on a tiny rectangular portion in the corner of the IMAX screen directly in front of me and I couldn't tell jack shit about what was happening on the rest of the screen so I couldn't be bothered to turn my head I hadn't slept I was drunk I kept booing and bursting into laughter and I was making silly faces too so I probably looked like a cross between Jack Nicholson and the Shining and Jack Nicholson and departed um and Leo in the Lude scene in Wolf of Wall Street at one point I yelled what the fuck and some little shit when language would have started a fight but thankfully more stupid shit happened that distracted me alright was that with the Irishman with Star Wars yeah I'm not sure what to make of that uh alright it sounds like he had a fun drink adventure I mean you know whatever floats your bow in terms of enjoying these movies it can be tough yeah go for it whatever gets you through the Star Wars movie these days you know Rebels talks about Koroban it's in canon this is a different planet oh I think most people know it's a different planet it's just disappointing that it's a different planet I think seems to be that people wanted it to be Koroban but maybe they would have ruined it so I don't know Ancient Sith planet that isn't the other ancient Sith planet you know how it be too many hows how did the dagger know where to point to find second Maguffin on a 40 ish year old destroyed space station well so my assumption is that the dagger was created after they discovered the ruins right like we would agree on that yeah like because the shape of the the fucking shape of the dagger was the stupid there's no way JJ that stupid that a dagger was shaped the right way before the death star crashed well the force it would be so funny if he said that was it he's like no no that's it we'd be like wow the force guided the hand of the blacksmith 1000s of times retard muck chuckle fuck is saying hi oh I retard muck chuckle fuck and the name I was rooting for the first order I never get what I want why would you root for them ever there's no point they're terrible like really look at all the movies and try and rate the first orders competency like what is group of idiots do you want to win they constantly fail like they just do nothing right and they have so many resources like it's incredible if you look through the three films look at their the same they turn a planet into a gun yep because that's the first one we're like that's an insane weapon it's like it's not just that in the second one they have this huge army of star destroyers and you're like oh molly you've made a mistake you're talking about rise of skywalker and I'm like no second movie they have an army of star destroyers as well they have the supremacy and adorbership it just all means nothing and then you have the third film which which yeah hey fap crew according to the new comic the emperor killed all of Luke's students with his massive force lightning attack right after Kylo woke up what are you shitting me are you shitting me that's a ret card right what is this to make Kylo look better because he's like crazy asshole no no guys it was palpitating the whole time what the hell he shot lightning through space to like like to kill everyone but it didn't move Luke somehow is that true I don't like even though even the writers and you know directors of the movies disregard the comic books as continuity and they ignore it and contradict it all the time it's almost like why buy them then why read the comic books if they're just they can just discard them at whim how do you even keep track you know they fuck their own retcons all the time they retcon their own retcons like what are you supposed to do oh uh so palpitating wanted Ray to find him but also controlled Snoke good thing he just knew Kylo wouldn't kill Ray when Snoke told him to that was lucky oh yeah how are we supposed lucky are we now supposed to believe that Snoke knew that Kylo was gonna do that whole time and that was his purpose to be killed by him because obviously if he was gonna kill Ray that would have fucked everything up palpitating this is also I guess it's so did palpitating intend for Ray to tell the rest of the resistance where the planet was so that they will come and attack it wouldn't even have mad because they found out from Dio like does he want them to have found out he sounded like it right remember he says come to me on Exegol the girl is coming whatever and if friends will follow her he says something like that and so like he's counting on it I would think that you wouldn't want to fight him on the secret Sith planet you'd want to fight him especially if your fleet couldn't get into the atmosphere why would you want to fight them there you know that they wouldn't be able to raise their shields for some fucked up reason why fight them in that condition you're saying why would palpitating want to fight them there yeah yeah I agree especially now everyone will know where I mean assuming there's at least one rebel to tell everyone else where Exegol is now then that becomes common knowledge like oh so much for the secret sith planet yeah what a stupid person rags with the scathing judgment there you're a stupid person palpatine's palpatine's message was in fortnite only so it was so it's okay I can't believe I'm fucking asking this but is fortnite star wars canon I don't know how to ask that question this welcome to 2019 it's the end of it just about but we have to ask is fortnite material star wars canon yeah it would appear so yfs yfs is in the chat he said I miss star wars because of a trade broke so we watched the cab rip instead saved money did you like it did you have fun merry christmas rags leaving out rhino milk and weird grapes in the hopes that you'll soon come down my chimney sounds great sounds like a night well spent ho ho ho the r2 spy message was a powerpoint with a fancy slide transitions that's why it took so long to upload it but it didn't matter it was just the end word every slight this cycling through it waiting for the important slide they're like who did this come on guys we're trying to save the world who put the end word on every page there's 77 thousand pages and they're like when huck saves them at the ship he's like did you get the thing did you see it did you see it I thought that would be funny I heard that all stormtroopers were black he said I didn't save money because I'd already bought a ticket it wasn't good oh yeah I figured from the whole the train made you miss your showing but um no it wasn't good we literally spent nine hours talking about how it's not very good um no doubt many more to come as the days pass we think more and more on it I just really like mettle's avatar you like the uh the crying pepe oh no wait the drunk pepe oh no wait now he's got the uh the Sid Nicholson version which yes oh my god very cute um kofr were priceless what's kofr nice of of ren like I'm telling my friend that the Zory racing is because women fucking hate each other from the camera whip pasts to knights of ren slowly marching around the block in formation lol I mean they were useless but funny sure useless I was expecting them to I thought they were Jedi I thought they were like students or something that follows us yeah they were just dudes dudes with really impractical weapons my my personal fucking Gestapo with baseball bats like why um yeah so if fortnight is Canada Star Wars and Thor plays fortnight at edgame that means the edgame is canon in Star Wars oh my god I'm not sure that's how it works but oh my god 110% how it works I'm willing to believe anything I've been waiting for this for so long also hi rags I got a headache after watching TROS yeah I think that's perfectly reasonable to have happened honestly yeah man it can be tough um if the wayfinder was Uganda knuckles it would have been it would have saved the movie I don't necessarily disagree do you know the way to xygo that's not a map it's just knuckles why would the tif fighters follow them light skipping apparently they have technology to do so and because this is their only lead of finding what remains of the resistance I can see the tif fighters being ordered to do so though if you remember fellas they would argue that um the reason that the tif fighters were not sent in to destroy the radicid tlj was because they did want to just arbitrarily have tif fighters be lost in the war they don't want to waste tif fighters because tif fighters are precious can you believe losing some of your equipment in order to end the war I mean no one would do that that would be insane it's a great decision because they only cripple their entire force thanks to not I like when Ray got scary bilbo teeth scary bilbo teeth she did have a bilbo teeth I kinda want to use that in my video now scary bilbo teeth cause I was gonna go with gollum but I was like oh no wait yeah cause it is much more of a bilbo moment that is isn't it scary bilbo teeth first scene on the base po don't ask how but someone somehow the emperor is back I spat out my coke and I thought the battle plan scene in tfa was bad yeah well yeah but that's the thing the problem is funny how much the match is broken like we're all dealing with it the characters in the universe have to just deal with it like everybody's just dealing with this it's like the emperor's just back fuck it Claude the slug had more development than this lot that's his name Claude Claude? his name is Claude the slug is oh the guy that was getting hugged at the end right the guy who had like a few I don't know oh my god hyperspace skipping was just to create a disney ride at Star Wars land where they jump from planet to planet in the universe to milk it I can believe that I believe it 100% I believe it I thought you had to escape a planet's gravity to hyperspace jump don't interdicta cruisers create artificial gravity wells to trap ships that's not currently in any of the mainline movies right but that's uh I'm not sure if they're getting that from EU or from Clone Wars Rebels sort of thing interdicta but I hardly know her Ray's better at light speed skipping cause she's Ray no of course of course she's better she knows what's best pose a fucking idiot the millenium falcon definitely belongs to Ray pose a moron whatever she's just the best at everything half of his video is complaining about the people walking in front of the camera in the theater cause of the camera if there's like a bunch of people they get up the camera if we go around there's like this obnoxious break where they advertise gambling and it's just like does this work? yeah gambling you know what I can use after watching this movie gambling palpatine gets electrocuted thrown off a ledge and explodes death star explodes cinemasins he survives this yeah he's not gonna get that wrong is he he's a pretty sure you'll nail that execute efap66 absolutely took me 4.5 hours to watch 2.5 hour flop r.o.s oh like cause pausing and stuff I guess I think a lot of people probably watch the cam vision of this one they probably were like yeah we're not we're not gonna risk it with this one I mean just erase this trilogy by going into the future where they're all dead and have them say the sequel trilogy is a poorly written story by an author called Ray yeah you could actually do that like not necessarily decanonize you just have it be that these are the representations of a story that some character in the universe wrote like if you really wanted to at that point I'd just be like can you just decanonize it like there's no point I would laugh because that's the quintessential thing you know about fan fiction and the main characters based off the author and so yeah the author named Ray inserted I like it um where are we did everyone forget the ties have classed to hyperdrives a.k.a slow the falcon has 0.54 times faster they should be hours behind um it doesn't yeah well we went over how like all that doesn't seem right it was just news to me that tie fighters had hyperdrives at all they did in the original trilogy I think the new original one that's that's why in a new hope they were so surprised to find the tie fighter fly over them just before they hit the death star they're like how the heck did that get out of here um and even the earlier movies I thought the force awakens sorry the last first whatever order um their tie fighters didn't have hyperdrives but this one this movie seems like they do and they have the trackers on board which apparently if you remember require like this big old breaker in order to run it like this looks like it's bigger than the tie fighter itself is like all right you streamlined the technology good job guys really size that down yeah did a good job in one year they must have developed a miniaturizing technology technology because they brought the uh the death star cannons down so yeah I mean so the advantage is that it's a lot more portable and thinner now but the bad news is you can no longer plug in your earphones I mean I can't believe I'm saying this but it is technically a reasonable development from that weird cannon that TLJ has the death star cannon they open crate with you know that one no mohler bad miniaturized death star no bad mohler I'm sorry but if we hang on that's not what I said though I just said that if you can miniaturize a death star cannon and you put it like that because I thought that was dumb on its own but um to attach those to star destroyers actually seems like kind of a good idea the fact they can destroy planets though I don't I don't know that that's ridiculous yeah because I think we actually argued that in TLJ like why aren't you putting this on ships like those things look like they could pierce through you know but uh yeah all right the logical implications would be by miniaturizing is by miniaturizing it you invariably lower the power capacity no no no increase the power we'll keep it the same either way um all together please please quote red letter media loyalty to disney loyalty to the brand loyalty is salvation loyalty is life well consume product be excited for next product yeah I bet Jay is very happy that he said that on red letter media because that's gonna be like one of the most used quotes in relation to how terrible mainstream movies are getting hey so funny thing real life thing right so yesterday I was just trying to binge all the uh uh rises skywalk reviews I could find and I clicked on the collider review and I tell you what like five minutes into it I'm just I was getting like nerd crew flashbacks like this this is not a parody this is like it's really that bad damn it was so much like you know there was I liked it overall and me personally me personally me personally no that's right yeah I got five minutes into that review and just clicked off like wow that like nerd crew nailed it with those types of reviews it was amazing um episode seven planted the hyperspace seed episode eight after in the wrong hole episode nine forgot to put the condom on but since it went in the wrong hole it's okay I it sounds like crisis averted with that one but I mean it was not averted in this film to find wrong hole yes um in one of the scenes in which Finn runs up to Poe and Ray and pulls them both into a hug I turned to my friend and said you know why he did that it's because they're friends I did this throughout the movie oh I guess because he's kind of trolling because obviously they're not friends uh there's a sheba named rags in valkyrie chronicles four but there is there is but there it's yeah but there it's short for ragnarok I was yeah hello he's a medic too I love being the heal bitch so it fits well hey guys just wanted to let you know I unironically and ironically love this movie definitively a mess but I appreciated the storytelling attempts um all right I give that's enough for you to give it appreciation then all right gonna say that just the just the attempt should be the default is that you're attempting uh I don't think you should give people props for trying trying should be the the bare minimum of what you do trying is what gets you into being able to be judged that's the uh he's like congratulations we can now look at what you've done uh yeah favorite parts do we breaking down kylo dad ons I know and yes queed falling for the tall abusive boyfriend who isolates him from his friends what about you see 3PO see 3PO yeah yes you just nailed it see 3PO man see 3PO unironically the best part of star wars episode amazing nine he was the only character I felt bad for good old C3PO that is amazing to me it really is this robot of metal or something the best thing about the film Emperor Palpatine's surgical reconstruction center is canon that is a deep law reference to red light media when they read the um the series of facts or whatever uh really warhammer 40k is now less ridiculous than star wars how yeah well I don't know how to explain it this movie has solidified my resolve to abandon star wars entirely for 40k for the emperor the dawn protects for the emperor TLJ didn't do that for you TLJ is what happens when you don't praise the onsite Molo will there be an unbridled rage yes it's on the way absolutely I miss when entertainment had good writing hi rag hello and me too yeah those were the days man that's why you gotta embrace some of the better writers these days of good fantasy literature get into audio books if you're reading is takes too long because that's so like I'm a slow reader and so sometimes reading large books are too tedious audio books are the best I bet Babu Frick is a really fast read yeah man definitely um he really has to turn his head to read though I think that would slow him down you think he can't turn his head super fast he doesn't even look like he has a neck yeah so it must be difficult for him yeah I don't even know what to say uh no battle station is required for death star tech you only need an anti-planetism gun oh there you go that's probably directly from a lore book and how do you power those big ass things anyway on a little ship AA batteries yes the force um I've got a I've got to start creating content so you guys can write me to an e-fap stream also I'm poor so sorry for only five bucks appreciated sir it's very kind of you yeah thanks much man uh creamy sheave the dark side of the force sorry sorry I was so tempted to quote Boogie oh fuck yeah what man well you know what man three dollars is a lot for a black person like a person of color oh man I didn't realize that's what you were doing so that is I have a gun I have a little gun you just you just listen to it and you're like what the hell did your brain just do sorry boogie I think you're a nice enough guy but you're a mess sleep well mr. yms I'm sure you enjoyed the film we love the rise of skywalker uh creamy sheave the dark side of the force leads too many me well time to dust off the old noose I think it's finally time this for this one no no we will soldier on we made it it's fine we knew this was coming we knew it was happening this trilogy had to end we knew it would um amazon basics recreational nukes alright yeah remember we were talking about um the plentiful nature of the planet destroy death stars is like nukes be a god abazzard yeah man just just buy him that's the thing um that's freaking he wasn't kidding like if you had one team break into one of those things and take control of them when it's gone you win yeah like your base planet you'd be like oh yeah point it straight down and just boof it's gone that's insane literally just came out of the cinema ready for this efap can't count the amount of times I flipped off the screen during it yeah that's a good way to sort of silently protest I suppose without ruining anyone else's experience snap waxley gets to vote and be in star wars twice but he didn't make it though discount porkins is dead so close sadly even having twin pocket death star lasers wouldn't make you half as powerful as ray also hi rags hello and that is true ray could blow up to billion planets it would not have surprised me with the way they were using the force if one of those star destroyers turned the death star canon on to ray shot it at her and she lifted her hand and stopped it in the air like that's the level of certainty they've gotten to with the force these days yeah and then someone would have been like yeah but in fairness she did train so yeah there are some things that you could just as long as you roll a natural one you can literally anything episode 10 mara jade and janna janna solo versus a reality warping memory manipulating history rewriting mouse like eldritch force entity and his four incompetent droids rj8 jj70 died kk5jw at ig3r i said mouse like entity is funny yeah i like it i'll petite the silk lord yeah what he what he gets is his new threads he's looking yeah great apparently physical immortality is a light side power not unreasonable i wouldn't know yeah i just yeah all right why didn't they have at the go ahead oh i was just saying i'm at the point that any expansion on the force powers now beyond the core utility from the original series i'm against because like as soon as you allow anyone any addition to the force they just run with it and then yeah out of control it's like you're dealing with children yes it's like well if you if you and your brother can play nice then no you and your brother not gonna play nice because you're two little kids it's like it you would think that all right there are some special super high tier powers but they come with a massive list of stipulations and almost to the point where they're unique and but they can't handle that stuff responsibly they can't make it they just can't do it they don't have the ability they don't know when to say no they're just more is better more is better i agree completely why didn't they have anakin instead of han solo that makes him turn back to the good side makes more sense i don't know that it makes more sense it would have been interesting to have i was actually thinking about like all right if they really wanted someone who could add some emotional validity to kylo's acceptance of trying to turn good you would need a force ghost his idol and i was thinking what if they actually got hayden christensen to appear instead of like and actually got him to appear as a force ghost hey kid i heard you idolize me you idiot i never told you i never told you did they he just walks up and slats kylo across the face what are you doing you know my master obi one that would have been really nice just to get all they would have they might have but these would have been like vaders last words essentially though the most recent things you know anakin had ever said so i'm like man i wonder if they would have fucked it up but it would have been a great every time we think of anything i'm just like they'll ruin the risk of them ruining it we'll do something they're gonna fuck it up so um hi morla slash rags hello hello you guys have inspired me to write my own long media analysis thank you for being inspiring do you have any advice aside from redrafting um we get this question a lot we've kind of started to develop a what you could call singular answer it's just like focusing on lots of different elements primarily being your passionate about it secondly being keep to accuracy as much as you can structure it well i know that sounds like a cop out but like try to debunk it as you go as well yeah there's so many ways to uh you make video because this is the thing me and rags don't even make videos the same way um and yet we're both long men same with shad by the way i don't think he makes it the same way that me and rags do so you know it's tough the unifying elements i would like to believe between us is accuracy as well as uh just just getting that work done that needs to be done in order to get that video where it needs to be yeah generic as it sounds i think it's a good way to go um by the way palpatine's whole plan was for rey to kill him and she kills him so palpatine is in rey now that's what i mean but yeah it's it's weird the rules are so strange and odd that you'd think that but apparently not well imagine unless the new sequel is actually palpatine did get into rey well yeah yeah i was going to say like imagine they had this like moment where she's like yes i'm rey skywalker and she turns away and then it like the camera goes up to her eyes you see them go like the the sith color and she goes and then the credits hit and it's like wow okay oh yeah like the end of michael jackson's thriller that's the thing man it's uh like and they would leave it open for the rey trilogy because this wasn't that this is funny let let me show you this here someone posted this in the in the discord all right we got uh first we thought boba fett died in the salak pit but he survived then we thought darth mull died after being cut in half but he survived then we thought palpatine was killed by vader but he survived you know what this means right porgans has a chest rise of the porgans yes he's the best character stay on target stay on target oh isn't he he just ends up going like i'm having a little trouble here this is like he explodes i can't remember why he just does it's uh it's a good i think you might have been a vader kill uh boom 10k yeah we did uh hit the 10k view as it was surprising exciting we almost hit 11k at one point like we're like i forget if i didn't see if we crossed it but we certainly got up to 10900 people wanted to know if star wars was good it's a natural thing i hope we've answered that question if you have any uh if we weren't clear imagine the only reason they were here was to discover if it was better or worse than tlj and we're like well if they wanted shad's answer they got it um palpatine i have the final order stormtrooper oh palpatine's been listening to europe again palpatine probably has access to all kinds of dimensional radios it would make sense he's very powerful 10 000 n words brought together by hate yes indeed 10k massives but that's really what this movie's about it's a film about family i've been looking forward to this what do you think is the worst scene in the disney trilogy damn the worst scene in the disney trilogy so my brain immediately goes to luke angrily tried to fucking murder kylo to sleep i don't know i like ray killing palpatine is pretty darn awful because it's the ultimate deus ex machina element out of everything and so that's really hit the top for me oh wow there's so many choices hentabyte really you think that's the worst might be the holdo maneuver the holdo um might be yeah just one of those bitter scenes with luke i don't know there's a lot of terrible i think it's the death i think it's the death of palpatine or when luke raises the the x-wing out of the water like i lost it at that lots of choices lots of good ones um rock can you find a roof big enough to throw disney off please i think it doesn't really matter how big the roof itself is it's how high it is like getting disney up there would obviously be a tough thing as well if it's like the corporation or just a mouse it depends we need it for the dyad i think the dyad was supposed to play a bigger part in the story but they like ended out completely because i was expecting zero references only mentioned the one time by palpatine oh you're a dyad that's weird i think he's mentioned once by kylo as well because he describes him and rey as a dyad he says we're a dyad in the force palpatine doesn't know he doesn't know and then he's like oh my god i was good to suck the life out of you but now i could just suck the life out of you because you're a dyad in the force tasty dessert an army of snokes and each has a death star laser i know you could have done that that's how it's said this is resource wise generate your own sith lord with a test tube and throw him into a death star that can hyperdrive all around the place and do whatever once talk about ruining the crazy powerful elements of the world i have to witness this cinematic travesty i regret my last super chat now i'm not sure if that was referencing an old e-fap or something maybe they hoped the film was going to be good um has anyone heard of or played arachno rocks arachnox yeah arachno rocks sounds like a puzzle game no i haven't i haven't played it why are more clones of snoke well more you see a sith lord he's awfully lonely on a desert sith planet he needs someone to share his cream with oh yeah but he had thousands and thousands of people there with him true true i don't even know what to think anymore they all seem rules like they were into it nothing works nothing maybe they're just really shitty conversations who's like talking to myself is the only way i can get some good chats around here when can we do a best of the worst with the nt new trilogy oh maybe um maybe that's kind of what all these e-faps are right we're discussing them i remember when mollus said that six people on stream would be too crazy now look where we are seven people on stream with 10k watching congratulations you massive did we really have 10k watching yes yeah we did all right it's fucking knuckin' if they can keep cloning snook then why is he always old i don't know good question this is a really bad teb plate they have like an old bad you need to watch jenny's new star wars vid oh i'm guessing hey can i just share something with you guys right so i was showing my kids you know the movies leading up because they wanted to watch you know uh riser skywalker so after riser skywalker my eldest son he's like nine years old hey daddy who was the guy in the last jedi the bad guy and i said oh he's improvising and he's like hang on is that the guy that fell down the thing and died i'm like yes but how did he survive that is a good question one they're not gonna answer there's like son you can't trust everything you see on tv that's what i'm gonna say yeah that's one of those teachable moments you're like welcome to film analysis some media is just shit but hey he knows what he's doing even a nine year old couldn't accept that incantation like this uh i might not be, i might not i might only be a nine year old but i know when someone blows up bullshitting me i feel like i'm being a spoon fed lies by the mouse moly you said in a previous stream that you've seen code gear as it's my favorite anime what do you think also high high high rags hey um i liked it i really like the ideas of it i thought execution of some of the bits of the plot were kind of to me and i'm not a huge fan of how exactly his gears works and how it develops to work it's a little flismy with the famous example that we've uh mentioned a couple times i believe but yeah i liked it i liked it never seen it what do you think of characters a lot of the problems that anime has is character i remember liking the characters uh okay i'd have to see it again i haven't seen it in what feels like three or four years now uh be the new sith yeah i'm okay with that so fin is force sensitive and potentially the ex trooper girl and her friends too i can't wait for them to do nothing with it they can't do anything with it fin's uh not gonna be in any more of them and as for the ex trooper girl and her friends like hers or a bliss all those other people like are they gonna try and make more films with those people i think maybe they're just whatever whatever action figures we could sell of zora bliss you know it's that's it man sorry i think it was so cynically you would expect this movie to bomb i mean i'm sure it'll make money but the critical reception the toys and merch won't sell and things like that and you would hope that would send a message to disney and on top of that if the actual box office is a lot lower than they hope for then you'd really expect that to send a message to disney that you know we've had enough of this crap give up on this sequel series start over um long man i was wondering if you have a problem when working on a long video where it lags a lot while in editing gotta work around oh not really honestly uh that could video where it lags a lot um make sure that might be a question for all to ask over here what you're dealing with is a uh it's a hard drive read thing the larger your file is eventually it's going to lag a whole lot especially when you're about to reach like a cut it depends on what you're using i think premiere is stuck with it right now but i think what happened is vegas came out with vegas 17 and that uses gpu acceleration for the preview windows so i think i don't have it but it's supposed to fix it so um look into it anybody else has 17 and whether or not they're having the same problems it's not a quality issue it's a read issue from your disc there you go one little trick i've also come across is if the display window if you're using premiere if you get the display window to not display it in its native resolution you can lower the resolution of the display which helps the read speed a bit i think or at least the processing i don't know like on i use vegas 15 or 16 and just go from instead of being on like best best or default whatever thing just go to like i don't know half see what it looks like hopefully if you can still see it and it runs better than that's all good yeah do gpu acceleration in vegas 16 like oh my god it saves so much rendering time uh so for the crea was right hashtag um i know that's a cotor 2 reference i'm hip with the kids about to see star wars riser skywalker it's good bless you long man for watching this for us also hello rags with doggleton hello sir uh given the end of tlj what is the resistance is a group of people on a millenium falcon and they managed to find a base and sort of grow the numbers a little bit yeah there are there are the good people i reckon the rebels should sue them for copyright infringement absolutely the resistance should just be called ray in company ray and the others uh the force is drunk now needs to sleep it off the force is screwed yeah it's just screwed you need to put it down in this state and just start over and try and fix it i watched cats after rise of skywalker and at least that has some good beats also hello rags hello i would have made the three movies about kylo's struggle there are people out there who will argue that it is about that like to us though it was just ping pong ping pong ping pong back before and we're just like yep he's siding to be partially a goodman badman goodman badman goodman goodman badman goodman good yeah a pendulum is struggling to find out where it's supposed to be i guess i don't know what the philosophy of the pendulum it struggles to know where it should be screw the force shad i think kreya is smiling right now wherever whenever she is which is probably space hell alright it's supposed to be nearly impossible to properly clone force users something about not being able to artificially generate connection to the force well that would explain how fucking insanely powerful snook is right sure it's just a natural rule you would have clone force users it just fucks with everything yeah plus i mean clone palpatine seemed like he was pretty fucking strong with the force i thought we decided that he was just corpse palpatine right not clone palpatine yeah i don't even whoever that and i like how people look at this they're like oh look at your silly corpse spirits and all this other stuff it was always nonsense it's like stop saying that it wasn't always nonsense the conversation about the futility of jedi trying to eliminate emotion is kind of criticism luke should have had on the jedi in tlj yes instead of being like they failed and they let palpatine win it's like can you stop that's really unfair and wasn't part of luke's philosophy like if there's jedi there's gonna be sith and so get rid of them both like he was going in with the thing that the force bringing balance to everything is by making both jedi and sith all the time i remember his argument seems to just be get rid of both of them yeah because if there's anything i know about the sith it's that they will happily voluntarily disband yes it makes sense guys his cloak turned red because he used force tailoring when he regenerated the dark sides a path to many abilities etc etc he he threaded all of the you know the strands together instantaneously with his power of the force pretty cool off topic but i finally watched one of fatman falling's ruby reviews honestly pretty good genuine real legitimate long man stuff don't know what it's beef was with you wasle is yeah he really hates me i don't really care like it's fine i don't care that we don't think about him at all really mm-hmm every time he comes up though it's usually good for a loft yeah did the spiders put out the leaks since they was so accurate i think so yeah do any real way to explain it spiders would have known you think that yeah i mean even you think that spiders did because wouldn't it have been perfect they can make some mistakes i think right well maybe then again remember if they're seeing the future after they deliver the script if they're seeing the future as it's changing like maybe they were trying to tell us what the leaks were at the at the time of they were like looking into what it was and just by them trying to predict it they changed the future could be not sure about the whole balance thing but the force made Anakin as a response to Darth Plague is manipulating life palpatine just took advantage of the forces decision i don't know about that i don't like it if it works that way it just sounds confusing to me anyway it's a mess it's a big mess if that's how the force works and it's a jerk don't get into the force if that's the case lold when the general asks ben why they shouldn't trust palpatine to get these ships and what does palpatine get out of this bargain and then ben force slaps him as if it's not a reasonable question to ask it's such a weird moment it's like what a what a fair question die never mind they should just never talk why didn't debag yoda force heal the yugglings well that's gotta be an awkward decision of this like you could resurrect any one of these yugglings at the cost of your own life and yoda's like more important than i am ds technology needed kyber crystals to operate when did they get them for their ships also karaban aka moraband was in clone wars so that's a retcon in nine it seems to be it's either a retcon or they both exist why are you guys still talking about star wars wonder woman 1984 is coming out i don't uh i don't care about that film i guess it's not looking great it's just okay let's see like i'll just check out what everybody has to say i haven't seen it myself the force healing is completely idiotic in the movie the idea of force healing someone else was done better in paul i remember paul the alien who can do a heal uh just got here is that shad i hear i love your content man thanks i appreciate it and i am here was i the only one who saw palpatine do jazz hands and rip the biggest fart with the force light dig the big beads are strong this one hi wags hello dude that'd be hilarious if he just farts and jets up with all the spaceships and fucks them up they're like that'd be the i already hours of live streams to get through with this movie are you guys aren't helping well this one's gonna be a short stream you know it'll be fine uh the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural how can it be unnatural if you need a dark side user equal a light side user if that's how balance is achieved i don't know i don't even know if those rules are actually how it works or not i don't even know if disney know if that's how it works i'll i've seen some shitty time it's clear disney doesn't know best series of video game cut scenes i've ever seen yeah they're the pretty pretty high res you know i detail is good stuff wags is a sexual deviant um yeah yeah pretty much i just love to eat ass oh there you go people keep comparing revenge of the no double r os s w rise of skywalk oh yeah i guess that's right the skywalker to bad fanfiction it's pissing me off people should stop taking talking shit about fanfiction if this is what's reilo included keep j i mean someone saying it's bad fanfiction i completely agree but fanfiction can get pretty bad you know i think we'd all happily agree with that it's not like someone saying it's just fanfiction because you can get some really good stuff if this thing is really bad fanfiction i'm sure we can also besides that's more of um i think that's more of a comment on the idea that they don't accept it as canon rather than saying fans write bad stuff because this is definitely bad also once Anakin became Darth Vader the force made Luke to clean up its mess i find this interesting that would imply that the force is a living conscious that makes decisions horse is a dick exactly that's a dick like sorry the force is making mass murdering genocidal maniacs to destroy peace and hey chat it also makes some nice people too makes the nice ones look how nice Rey was comes out totally neutral i don't care how nice a person is throughout their life if they've murdered someone all the nice things they do doesn't you know discount that they're really nice though she fixed the droids wheel dude toilet paper always with the roll up front they always close the door when they walk into the room they turn the lights off when they leave the house whenever they're almost out of something they put it on the grocery list these are some nice folks twisty tie always goes back on the bread once you're done with it there you go they do stuff an evil person would never do the force would agree with that that's balances the force is got a little checklist you can murder someone now that's a good balance i've earned enough karma points to have one murder and come out neutral yes i've been good for my whole life can i kill several children the force is like um if they're orphans sure how many orphans uh two and a half uh by the way they did not fix kylo's lack of a cape in the reflection in the puddles in the fight on the death star wreckage oh really did they not how you spent how much money on this and you didn't notice watch stars on thursday when an inspecting shit still walked out disappointed yeah it's going around yeah it's kind of um finally got on the stream live with money get some beers and rags and heimola do you have any beers tonight rags i've had i've only had one i've only had one but i've been i've been really really clobber in this tea though i'm gonna piss like a racehorse later today didn't have anything to draw from while also taking powers and places from the eu thanks for being the worst liar in hollywood cathleen yeah we all know what they're up to with that it's like oh it's hard for us guys it's like don't even go there do you not even go there uh more evidence would be the yuzang vong not having any force abilities or being affected by the force because they come from a different galaxy where the force isn't there but disney pissed away the eu so who cares yep that's about right yeah that's interesting it's not even there like i said palpatine survived because his robe was made from batwoman's cape which is explosive proof ah there you go canon my review for rise of this rise of the skywalker wait that's r-o-t-s that's revenge of the sith right um my review for revenge of the sith but why i don't know if they meant to say skywalker or not okay palpatine's clothes they fly down oh no send jj brandon sanderson magic system essay he's not gonna care he's not gonna care he won't agree he'll be like this is dumb you're not supposed to do it this way yeah what consistent rules no boy hate it boo audience understanding magic no that just ruins the mystery um admiral holder was a traitor the holder maneuver has a one in a million chance of success which means she tricked the crew into evacuating the ship then attempted to flee the the distraction oh that's actually like true because so if you're on on the ship with her right let's say you're going down with her and she says let's do the the maneuver and you're like dude that's one in a million let's just crash into them like that what do you think the maneuver is wait what well no no no literally if it's one okay so do you think there's no difference between a one in a million shot and driving the ship into another ship well no I'm saying they said let's drive our ship into the other ship and I'm like isn't that what the hold yeah but if if we to believe it's a one in a million shot then fuck that let's instead literally drive into them yeah I'm still trying to figure out what happens the 999 999 other do you miss fail what happens I guess maybe that's why it worked for hold though because the supremacy is so big you could possibly miss it I don't know you bounce off the shields maybe the the shields actually really strong at preventing meteor impacts and other just solid matter the shields are only able to be blown apart with energy weapons and so maybe but you think that the sheer massive ship would just oh yeah too much especially going at that speed oh yeah like this couldn't you just push the ship in the way of all of the blasts from that we're destroying the transports and you know what can I just say as well that Hans comments that if you're in hyperspace you might bounce off a supernova did he say something when he says bounce off that seems to imply that you're not being destroyed by it that maybe your path in hyperspace just gets not really badly if you run through something physical that there's actually no proper physical interaction between being in hyperspace and being you know in real space that's a much better interpretation makes hyperspace more solid of course a hold on maneuver contradicts that interpretation but then you could say the hold on maneuver only works one in a million that the instant when you're jumping into hyperspace and you're accelerating so much of the ship only is remaining in real space to have that interaction before it's in proper hyperspace and I won't have that interaction which is why it's so rare for it to work maybe well even if that was the case I should be like in that case again just slowly crash your ship into theirs instead because at least that guarantees the hit well exactly one in a million is not good odds that I would generally absolutely not if I what is the point in a one in a million move it would be like no most that means that when she actually hit it she was probably like I rolled really badly it's like an enormous roulette wheel with like a million slots and she could just see that one and she was like let's just avoid that I could escape most of the force powers in this movie were in legends but took a lifetime of specialized training and dedication to master but pretty much made you weak in every other area they fought them out yeah I still think TLJ is worse expect Rise of Skywalk could suck but I still left the film angrier than I did with TLJ why give rags a scratch behind his big smelly ear oh my ears do not smell why you could well no but you can't get me scratched though I just feel like the word of the question is misleading why does the dagger line up with the wreckage they crafted the dagger based on the wreckage just the only reasonable assumption I can make it's just the wreckage did change yeah someone was like what do you want your dagger to look like and they're like it's a commission piece right so they got this guy and like okay so this is going to sound crazy let me know if you've done this before I actually feel kind of embarrassed to ask this I used to have a death star he's got like a little paper I mean it's still there but you think the rebellion would have wanted to search through it would do yeah you think that it would be full of weapons and gear and armor and electronic parts and details on how the ship was put together who knows all this stuff do you think scavengers from all over the galaxy would be around that thing there'd be enough for everyone plus not only that just scrap metal I mean it's a lot easy to repurpose metal that's already been machine and stuff on something then mining it and having to smelt it into shape it's like it's a lot cheaper just scrap right there free there's a theory going around on reddit right now that the disney paid off Rotten Tomatoes to freeze the audience score at 86% it has legitimate evidence behind it and I recommend you guys look into it I'm willing to believe anything right now with what's going on with that site one report I've heard about it is that most of these reviews that are giving it really high scores on the history have not put a rating on any other movie previously that they're all new accounts so I can't substantiate that that was just something someone reported to me so who knows disney's why does force ghost anakin ever show up and try to talk some sense into kylo I know I know molo when you're gonna have literature devil on I've been in dms with he and he said he's interested the problem is that I've been in dms with a couple people still getting and we've got like I've been talking to rags about this we've got so many different episodes we need to get done that are planned with different people as well as getting new guests it's just all a big list mm-hmm getting there hi rags molo and pals I have a tinfoil hat theory about the new episode of Mandalorian I don't think Favreau actually wrote it it's so clunky discuss um say that one more time just so I get it he uh soak it all up this person thinks that the newest episode of Mandalorian so clunky that Favreau probably didn't write it um I don't know who was in charge of that abortion well Favreau as far as I'm aware had influence on all of it uh yeah and 3 was pretty bad 4 was bad 5 was bad 6 was bad 7 was bad so I don't I don't know I I'm not exactly gonna vouch for his talent when it comes to writing television shows started out okay it started out with a good first episode and the second one was alright and then it was just like I don't know I don't think they're as bad as you know other things they certainly filler especially after they're not like worse than Auschwitz but they're pretty bad that's an extreme comparison I thought the one with Bill Burr was alright they're still dumb in it don't get me wrong but um at least Mandalorian was doing some cool stuff once again and he wasn't being shown up by or easily defeated and stuff um we will we won't watch that last episode but I've said to shout as well you can come on for this but we'll do like a Mandalorian episode of EFAT we'll talk through the 8 episodes I think seems like the thing to do we'll pros and cons and then have some kind of conclusion about it because um you know I think I think people want to hear more extended takes on it because we've just sort of been jotting down bits and bobs here and there uh so yeah how's that to look forward to it's crazy how much better the Kotor games are the world building law and story are so strong they create their own world within the Star Wars universe I believe it um I think the people who made this trilogy only saw the prequels not the OT and they just took the worst aspects from them and amplified them I'm almost certain they watched the OT like they seem to very deliberately damage the OT like in specific ways just yeah I will say that when it comes to world building something gets huge props from me if it's terrible but it has really good world building apparently Jon Favreau didn't write episodes five and six five and six are the bounty hunter one and the bill bir one yeah the bill were one four was still awful yeah I would actually say four is still the worst as far as I'm concerned yeah I'd say four is the worst uh so does this mean that's the ATST one okay yeah there's a bit of problems in that one so does this mean Disney might edit the OT movies to make them consistent with the sequels oh fuck off with that how dare you even how dare you type those words oh my god can you imagine them actually doing that don't even entertain the thought it's a nightmare I feel like everybody would riot like how dare you we know how much people love the edits George did yeah Han shot first uh no because it could be intercepted wired is so they don't be detected this actually makes sense oh so they're transferring the message about Exegol so that it can't be detected via the the line but who would oh that clearly didn't work because he got killed yeah he's fucking dead also why didn't he just toss him a USB that's wireless I was about to say he could tell him he could go hey dude Exegol's real it was encoded as well and obviously it was sent to them somehow to give to R2D2 so it seems like it was already sent wirelessly to somebody this actually does not make sense non whatsoever and I love the fact that he got killed anyway he takes all his precautions he just dies like oh well um Luke goes to tochi station song watch it mulesley uh yeah sure I'll have to check that out or make a note assuming it's a video how can anyone possibly take the end celebration scene in return of the Jedi seriously after watching the rise of skywalker especially when people who think that TRS is a good film absolutely it's you watch it and you're like wow those poor fools they have no idea and like you know you laugh at everything but it's like honestly though that's the case they have no idea how much they've not won they just think they have do they realize they're all going to be defeatist losers who die that cut was perfect um clone jay on exegol you'll have JJ on efap I would be one that cloning jay we have to kick multiple jays we'll have to use the isle of man flag at that point um I mean who didn't clap when the knights of ren randomly showed up and one guy went whoa the knights of ren it was so epic when they did nothing yeah why is disney ashamed of luke's green lightsaber no idea did it show up though yeah it did he fought leia with it so yeah yeah he got his ass kicked by leia with it yeah maybe they do hate it um commander mohler the timers come execute efap 66 also high rags hello this is a long time ago in a galaxy far far away algor hasn't invented the internet yet oh you can't post it on a message board about exegol yeah okay makes sense uh the limbless dick alien is apparently a mechanic how though okay okay telekinesis he fights yeah it's either using force or he's using his mouth um I'm not on twitter how else can I send a video meme uh try discord or the subreddit more even spy me to start making youtube videos I'm working on my first video which will be on the rise of skywalker I hope to finish it by new years also high rags hello this film is creating more new youtubers it's like at least we're getting some good things as a result be inspired people that was a really good wolf video where he said like what bad writing can do in terms of like inspiring creative works because you're like you know what fuck this I'm gonna do this better go for it um what's the best way to send memes to you I've sent them on twitter and discord but you never seem to see them uh those are the best ways I've as you would have seen on the the wolf one I collected like 300 memes um as well as like all the videos and I've still got a stockpile more of them I don't catch them all I really do try it's just that um I haven't even looked at what's been sent this stream because I've just been trying to sort of nail it in terms of getting to as many super chats as we can but uh yeah those are the best ways discord twitter and subreddit if I don't see them on like somehow miss them on all those different things then uh always like give it another shot a few weeks later or something um but if I just maybe it's a terrible meme that could be it maybe it's just like you know you gotta have good memes that's that's a as you've seen only the highest quality of memes make it onto e-fap that is a really good question Brian from chat why did it take so long for Leia to disappear I don't know she wasn't a piece yet yeah she should only be at peace when her son had been killed killed so you have to be at peace to disappear Obi-Wan was immediately at peace when he got chopped down by okay oh so does that mean that if rey had gotten to Leia's corpse she could have revived her yeah well I think what they're trying to establish is that rey was able to hear Kylo because he hasn't died yet but Kylo died because rey was already dead and he basically just gave her his life force and died yeah I follow that I'm saying that like would rey have been able to resurrect Leia at the sacrifice of herself sure I don't know like we've seen her use healing at no cost at all to her abilities oh yeah so she could probably bring back the dead at no cost to you you're right completely rejuvenate Leia that's where it why didn't Luke just force heal Anakin at the end of Revenge of the Seath and healing and ghost ruin everything I think they mean return of the Jedi and yes healing and ghost to ruin everything well what they've done with them on the bright side they used powers that have been in other Star Wars properties but her adaptness at them is the problem yeah adapt yeah very slow costly time consuming healing is one thing with limited capabilities and ghosts as they were understood in the OT are great but what they've done with them is just yeah and the way that rey describes how she healed I just transferred my life force she's saying it's like it's really easy I mean way to describe it any Jedi should be out of there just transfer life force you know force do it first live EFAP only recently found this channel but been binging EFAP for a little more than a week have some rhino milk hey glad you've been binging does Raj shove people off the rooftops or does he RKO them into the pavement like an Egyptian Randy Orton I mean I suppose that's up to him he probably does both depending on the the uh the subject hi kids I'm the JJ I'm JJ the Abrams behold my one thousand rhino milk power engine and my 120 mm disregard for canon much um you beautiful massives for an in-depth story on what happened to Palpatine after return of the Jedi check out the YouTube video Palpatine's journey by worth the kids have an awesome Christmas and New Year caroo chi e good um I almost don't want to know cause anything trying to explain it is going to be ridiculous I'm pretty sure that's the the animation rags the palpatine's journey it's hilariously good it's like I think it's a three minute video and it's funny as hell Palpatine's force train was originally a power only Darth Nihilus from the old Republic could use just further proof that JJ can't be original I mean people who without any of that knowledge they must be so confused as to what is even going on in that finale and I'll repeat what I said I'll repeat what I said stop it okay keep the force basic powers don't step outside while catching up to EFAP the only episodes I couldn't tolerate were 43 through 45 would rather listen to major lee than that massive pointless spider oh are those massive pointless spider was the spider-man debates 43 and 45 might be sounds about right somewhere around there just got done watching a six minute video of the ray in galaxy's edge greeting little kids whole thread was falling over here but not me two minutes past the nudes get posted bam vindication nation baby never fail for disney's lies I don't know what is going on about um the lightsaber in the tunnel made me so nervous lightsaber in the tunnel oh yeah yeah it made me nervous too it was so close to everyone I was just picturing around and chop someone in half no what are you doing that'll kill you that'll hurt you not to mention by the way couldn't she like poke it up at the sand and either melt it down or like create a hole you know what I mean I know it would be dangerous but she could have put a hole in space and time and just walked out to the surface I mean if she could if she could lift all of those massive boulders then why couldn't she lift the sand maybe you guys are just like sexist maybe who would you cast in an eFAP remake of the ST whole hail supreme leader tonald snoke why would you remake the sequel trilogy it'll just kill it never like why would you even want to do that story if you know what I mean I don't even think the casting is the problem unless the question is more so like I don't really know an eFAP remake of the ST yeah I just I don't I don't it's not the castings not really what my concern is yeah and at what point are you are you able to say it was the casting not it was the writing and direction need to catch up on wolf's eFAPs free Hong Kong Disney Star Wars needs to suffer the full and complete roof of raw have fun you massives will do absolutely fun fun was had today are you optimistic about the future of Star Wars after seeing Rise of Skywalker love the channels in the stream keep up the good work all of you the answer that question would be nope absolutely not we're curious what they'll ruin next good Shad good Crayer probably thank you I don't remember what I was saying when I was posted but you've said something that Crayer would approve of Shad layer had a red lightsaber in the original EU see there you go good to see someone else like in red reds not evil reds misunderstood yeah it is the color of blood and cherries cherries apples there you go raspberries are red and strawberries it's the color of love it's the color of red clothes color of yeah passion love blood yeah and stop signs oh yeah yeah warnings I guess 10 cleats the strongest color if you're looking at color wave frequencies of light fair enough I have no idea I have not looked into color I'm not a nude what's the what is the oh yeah mirror mirror the sun is setting why do you think the sky turns pink and the shade of red and all that stuff is because all the other light gets reflected and red is the strongest that's you know pushing through oh so red is the color of stubbornness oh what is the weakest color then opposite of red obviously um I don't know what that would be it's the two extremes of the light spectrum ultraviolet red infrared red is going up higher and the lowest is ultraviolet which is you know blue is the last color before it steps outside of the color spectrum and red is the beginning of it uh red and green are complementary colors it's saying it's on the opposite end of the color wheel whatever that means no color no if you're looking at the color spectrum of light it's red and blue opposite of red color spectrum is an analog photography in the negative red rendered green invite no um we'll just say blue because I was curious but it's it's telling me about color wheels not too concerned about color wheels I know my colors I was half expecting I want to test you on your colors then all right just describe the color and I'll name it no no what are the three colors that our eyes are only capable of perceiving ours they are actually no actually I'll rephrase that because that can be wrong what are the three colors that are used to make all other colors in light spectrum magenta right and then there's uh you can just say red oh we mean like red yellow and blue or red red green and blue red green and blue I thought you meant like there's like the like the anal answer is like magenta teal in like cyan or something like that that's what I heard no I don't like anal I don't I don't know that you should know I love anal yeah Shad's inconsistent character now I prefer he prefers the anals of history that's what his channels that's fair yeah thing I'm pronouncing that right pretty sure I am I think you are no no no no I don't think so I'm pretty sure it's anals of history okay yeah it's a historian thing you probably wouldn't get it the chest already saying I'm wrong I probably am um Matt Jarbo put out a tweet saying made some plans to see Rise of Skywalker for the third time but in IMAX the more I talk about it with people the more I want to see it again it says the three basic primary colors are red, yellow, blue no no no that's in pigment only in pigment and so using in pigments to mix colors like in paints or any other things yeah the primary colors are red, yellow, and blue this says red, green, and blue for colors of light yeah it's red, green, and blue for light alright so so hold on Monday Matt likes the movie yeah we got Diabeto and Matt Jarbo have teamed up to become the villain of 2020 Diabeto plus what is going to be yeah we got to cover Matt Jarbo's video sugar and boulders we haven't covered Monday Matt since he did the he covered the survey on Game of Thrones that was great memories when Sitch revealed to us that uh wasn't it only 20% of the people identified as fans of Game of Thrones so it was like there was worthless fucking survey and so we're yeah it was talking about 80 people something I was half expecting Ben to show up at the end with Luke and Lair as force ghosts at the end but he had no shit on I believe there was a version where Lair and Luke fight alongside them that's what I remember reading somewhere yeah the leak we read said that Matt Jarbo tweeted made some plans to see the rise of skywalk wow he's just completely ignored the fact that I've read that out already what we just read that out literally when was that like a minute ago really are you sure yeah I was there man are you certain rags it blowed in question are you having a strike well let's see face alright F-A-C-E arms speech no I'm I think I'm good we've been going for ten and a half hours so maybe while I was looking for it and finding it you were saying it but I was focusing on finding it so you doubled how long it is let's say that's what happened Adi Gallia was a Jedi that used a red lightsaber I even have an action figure of her that I got in the 90s with a red lightsaber meaning red isn't evil guys stop quoting the EU all decanonized Disney has ruined it oh yeah well until Mother Teresa is decanonized I am going to keep quoting Star Wars so there the EU is better than the Disney garbage and then that just validates my standpoint that red is not evil let's Luke used a red lightsaber though he had a red shoto see there we go a red shoto I don't know a red lightsaber I don't know robot chicken almost predicted Rey and Palpatine make sense parody becomes reality I suppose there was definitely a theme of luck I mean the force biggest example for me was Finn pointing to the ship of which the signal jumped after the antenna went down being asked how he knew and he just said I felt it burst out laughing yeah lots of that whenever Uchi isn't on screen other characters should say where's Uchi and that's a Simpsons reference Finn got cucked off my ass off bleach.com remember lads height wins every time manlets eternally beat the fuck out fair enough the only people shown to be enslaved by the first order were black silent pause also between first order and golden company which is more redundant golden company I mean the first order blew up six planets yeah they did some stuff it's just the they averaged two planet blowed ups per movie it's like they were given extreme powers and they used a bit of it it was like oh you guys did some stuff yeah you killed billions the golden company probably didn't kill billions so yeah oh please boo-hoom a black people enslaved by first order what else would they have done shown a white person being a runaway ex-slave pretty sure that it's just it's not even just white and black people as far as I can tell it's just everyone they mention it at one point right that they just steal young people yeah they never like that guy we mention that tweet because it's stupid not because it's true Shad's version would need Finn to be a character I'd say he's a character he's not a particularly you know yeah just a well employed character and no way near reaching the potential of what he could have achieved and he just doesn't match what we understand to be his history whatsoever Kylo Solo or Ben Wren which is worse or Ben Wren Kylo Solo or Ben Wren yeah Ben Wren sounds worse because Ben Wren is like one syllable each so it's like boom boom and it's done but Kylo Solo at least it's at least it can spread that out over four syllables awkward but Ben Wren and you can't even call him BR because you don't save any syllables Mola what's the best way to send you memes discord, reddit, twitter although I have not checked any of them while doing this stream I shall once it's over but Mola, palp's called him a boy yeah well I saw the training scene between Luke and Leia another hardly trained Jedi kicked Luke's butt in this film yay yeah Luke is shit Shad will lay waste to the notion that 6 a number from his point of view 6 is a letter by the way why are we still talking about Star Wars cats is out well if you're worrying to the symbol that represents the numeric value of 6 you could call that symbol a letter weren't they already talking about like changing the visuals to cats yeah so we'll mention that earlier I think cat's movie let me google it and see what's up universal notifies theaters cats is being updated with improved visual effects the movie is unheard of for a finished film already in release that's because it's so bad oh my god it opened at 2.6 million yeah have you seen the reviews it's like on 18% even on Rotten Tomatoes or something like that it is bombing hard I guess it doesn't have Disney behind it to pay for reviews a friend told me it's fine that Rey is a Mary Sue because thanks to her tons of little girls have gotten into Star Wars and that's all that really matters isn't it I think girls could have gotten into it whether or not she was a Mary Sue this is true um can you get the gun from Star Wars theory guy from Star Wars theory on EFAP one day he said he doesn't know you more but you probably know him he made great fan made Darth Vader film have a good one guys oh that'd be super cool yeah I'm not against it hang on hang on Star Wars theory I think I watched a review of his of this movie and I think he liked it oh no well that's okay I don't want to incorrectly malign him so I'm gonna look this up quickly how dare you malign him sir I know to say someone who disliked this movie that they liked it is such a insult to their character that um well gee his latest video is I'm a Disney shill now question mark real talk so I think that's his response to the negative reaction he had well like you can see with us I think that our you know EFAP fan base as a whole if they'd seen this film they'd know we wouldn't have liked it because of the sheer amount of inconsistencies and like we've been through them we've explained it and so I think it's just a general question people have it's just like so you did like it that's fine did you know about all of these inconsistencies if not does it change your mind if it if you did know it's interesting that they wouldn't affect your experience that's probably where people are and then they can maybe jump to some conclusions like shill and stuff but you know I don't want to throw that cut at every single person who enjoys the film I'll just be like well you know some people just want to chill and watch a Star Wars movie I guess okay so yeah Star Wars theory I just found his review he literally says in his opinion it's really amazing well I would it's definitely amazing he liked it oh yeah I agree someone in chat said he claims he liked it he doesn't claim it's well written oh really okay that's fine then his review has a million views wow he's got a big channel Finn Ray no stop get away from Kylo stop it please stop touching your lightsabers no well yeah even though it's pretty clear Finn wanted to date her she was interested in the bad boy yeah boy have you heard the last 50 minutes of TROS a warning from organizations because of photo sensitivity no other Star Wars movie ever had this yeah I believe it I believe it that the brain sensitivity was horrible now check out Steven Crozet's video on TLJ for one of the worst takes I've ever seen the worst part go to 4256 I shall consider it I've read my notes they could have fixed the ending if they let Anakin possess Kylo the only reason he's even able to is due to blood lineage and then fight Palpatine and beat him without fucking up the OT by keeping it that Anakin beat him that would still be canotismy but I can see where you're going with that like in terms of trying to fix the mess lots of suggestions everyone has I think at this point because anything but what we got would be Dicer the comms array was turned off so the capital ship could send the signal could just be turned back on when the rebels leave stopping nothing agreed her name was Steve that's a super chat I don't know what to do with it her name was Steve they could have done it where Kylo force grabs Anakin's lightsaber and fights Palpatine and they could have hired the choreographer from Revenge of the Sith and had Adam driver use the exact fighting style of Anakin oh because he's Anakin possessed yeah you know a reason not to give that a shot I suppose hey Lord Maul if you want a palette cleanser after the ST just play Kotor 2 on PC it's likely the best written Star Wars media ever made that's what I hear a lot hi Maul daddy I can't wait for the ROS porn parody it'll surely be of better quality hashtag do it rise of Skywalker no alteration needed go to the dark side how far are we getting to 12 hours exactly how much further can we go 1 hour and 10 minutes go to the dark side join me say the n-word if Palpatine didn't die from what happened to him in Return of the Jedi why are we supposed to believe he's really dead this time we're not a real question so there yeah Rey did it this time she's much more effective than that crappy Vader dude yeah he's a loser no one cares no one remembers him he's like an idiot in a suit she's like a full on human it's way better Jenny Nicholson's primary gripe seems to be the movie isn't SJW enough what a joke she is really? I just assumed I was looking for a view she must have only posted it like last night this morning for me tell you what I'm super anticipating the red letter media one I just the memes are funny I can't wait for them to just laugh at this thing I wish when someone farted in public their rear released a bubble in which the fart would be stored and everyone could see that bubble coming out of their rears and balls should still grow into babies oh that's this guy oh this guy alternatively I wish the only way to make new people would be to remove a testy and plant it into the ground and have it grow into a baby tree oh no that is some unique yeah right universe I guess okay so that doesn't seem very tenable because if that means every male assuming every male had the maximum amount of children would be two well he said he plans a baby tree what if it has multiple babies on the tree oh yeah this law goes deep man just you know my favorite line they win because they make us feel alone what the fuck yeah no they win because of the galaxy destroying lasers pretty sure the guns that blow up planets are contributing more than their moral deficiency the limitless force power that sometimes comes in she was like yeah no I get it but you know what I mean shit I mean like yeah that can't help I'm sure but you know rags and mollus say the butter anvil in epic voice you go first the butter anvil the butter anvil and I will say this but that doesn't sound like a very efficient anvil if it's made out of butter it has to be it must be very cold yeah hard butter yeah lamb and down it must be sith butter they win because they make us feel alone yes po I too love Trump what I'm very I'm very disappointed that palpatine didn't shout unlimited power while shooting lightning at the fleet yeah that you've been awesome honestly but I almost felt like it would be more appropriate to rate for Ray to have said that when she crossed the lightsabers because she's the one who had it I would hate if she took his line he gets to say that would piss me off yeah I'm just saying it seems more appropriate though as to how he had the unlimited power there you go she could just say that X couldn't give it to me JJ is doing his best to fight racism on the stereotype that Jews are smart that's very noble of him about the Skype call didn't snow can make that possible if so how is it still happening it could be palpatine but why yep good questions I guess it's palpatine but then it makes you wonders like can't palpatine keep track of everything that happens in those conversations and Kylo just seems to not care about that I don't know you think if he also set up those Skype calls he would be able to do the force reaching and teleport grab stuff off the person as well yeah even to literally them just grab them don't you think it's weird that like it's just so normal to Kylo but it seems like it would be like a curse and it also seems that he controls it she never seems to initiate them but he always does outside of the first one I guess in TLJ where she like sees him and he's like wait what and then she goes to shoot him and he's like whoa but yeah where did the geode meme come from also hi Jay that came from his video on the game of thrones like browser game I believe official game of thrones browser game yeah he got download today yeah he got like some fake sock accounts coming in and praising the game and for some reason they kept saying geode in their really broken English geode I know in my video game reviews it's very important that you understand geodes make sure you say the whole thing it has to be the game of thrones official browser game you can't sure speaking of Jay he's supposed to return that massive how did he also blank blank said hey Mola critical drinker wants to be on eFab I think he came and went please he's probably not gonna be alive I'd be awake not alive let's see let's say game of thrones official browser game so that's gut hobg mm-hmm gut hobg um ray oh no kylo don't remotely tear off my clothes no don't do that I'm totally don't like it when that happens finn crying in the distance not in public not here in front of everybody he poor finn that would be so embarrassing if that happened when kylo and ray skype fight in his quarters kajimi it's the shattering of vader's memorial that tells kylo she's in his quarters not the dagger in her hand since the beginning of the fight yep yep you're absolutely correct uh see the more you think about it the more it falls apart well we we did highlight that one it was uh frustrated as hell to think about just stupid uh my nose started running from rage in the theater I literally checked to make sure it wasn't blurred by the time the film was over I was shaking with rage as my video rant twitter clearly demonstrates I've written 24 pages of notes on this garbage movie guess what my first essay is going to be guys also hey another one yeah if I want to get a video meme in for wolf to see what would be the deadline there should I have my new computer today finally like I said man I don't want to make exceptions for anybody I'd rather just say that it was for that stream and that we're just going to close it off now because he's um I don't think he's going to want to keep having to sort of address them and besides honestly I'm not even sure I can get it all done in one recording because we've got a shit ton of videos and super chats to go through as well as images hypothetical you were put in charge of Star Wars back in 2014 with a secret goal of ruining Star Wars as a movie brand do you do anything different no no nope nope I don't think you could even try and get it as good as this there is no need if you're too obvious about it you think the execs would be like no you can't do like you nuts that'll never work all this got approved it's amazing they're like yeah I don't understand what if the reason force ghost can't confront the Sith is because Jedi and Sith can manipulate the force and force ghosts are made out of the force imagine Kylo Ren using ghost Yoda's lightning against Rey or Luke um so like this I guess a force ghost shows up and the Sith can just manipulate them because they can manipulate the force and then force them to use force lightning on their friends I mean at that point I think nobody would understand what the hell's happening we're already there though pretty much also if I want to get a video meme oh wait that's the same one hey guys watched EFAP 64 and 5 so sad I couldn't watch it live I'm gonna miss Wolf but I'm glad you guys are still here I got work so we'll see if the long man is still around when I get back I'm sure we are the concept of putting a secret on a knife that could get stuck in someone and escapes is just stupid make it a ceremonial one or something just have a map and a knife why combine them when did hyperspace jumping become instant by the way I seem to remember in the OT the journey to Alderaan taking a while such a while indeed that Obi-Wan had time to train Luke a bit in the force you're a smart man sir very smart indeed official canon Quinlan Voss a kiffa Jedi from prequels proficient with psychometry and acquire info about people and events by touching an object there you go I guess do it F to a well-kicked J oh I guess this is in the stream with J left there we are guys that's how far in we are what was that what was that two hours I'm not going to answer that question because yeah it was it wasn't it well let's have a look hang on I can check oh wait can we check does it say when he left well I'm just got the stream up on YouTube I'm just going to scroll through on the timer oh there it is 10 28 p.m which means that was three and a half hours in catching up boys and we are currently at 11 hours in so oh my god looks like me and rags will have to catch up on these yeah it'll be great we can devote all of our attention and everything to all the D's just about to watch it back in a few hours enjoy the persona chase now this is part racing C3PO had a republic sith language banned programmed in his memory was wiped at the end of episode 3 this is where the restrictions could have been put in sure theoretically I just don't see why all the stuff we went over with all of that it's just so nonsensical we agree that it might have made sense to have a restriction that he couldn't even read the language but he could read it he was restricted in translating and telling anyone what he read and that's the dumb thing that doesn't really make sense does it why would you want to not know what a 12 year old would think I can read it but I just can't tell you if the logic is too dangerous to read sith things so why not make it so I can't read it instead of that I can't translate it that's weird remember when I know exactly what it says remember when rays lightning destroyed an entire ship and palpatine's lightning only turns the ships off and messes with the controls yes yeah but hers was she didn't even mean to do hers though so yeah it makes sense he was trying to destroy them while she was only accidentally destroying it yeah that makes it better that dagger alone you can spend 30 minutes on the stupidity of that maguffin it's it's shocking the dagger is ridiculous just stand in the right place hold the dagger out pull the ruler out and pray to god the death star ruins don't move to find the next item yep and also pray that you're standing in the right spot like there's no way she could have known that d.o. knows the way to heaven yes he was in the tenacious d movie I always found that neat d.o. not that no there was a ton of female stormtroopers in this I noticed that too I noticed that there were some some female voices coming from stormtroopers so who won the bet on the most inconsistent character that'll be wolfshad death bullshit and a fourth person rags I could try I would disagree with it being a crowd please are my entire theater made audible groans during the kiss scene well there's the thing I don't really know it's kinda hard I already said that going off of rotten tomatoes numbers being trustworthy I don't even know if that's true yeah 86 seems so fishy to me if I was to choose which one I think would be more of a crowd please I honestly would go with rise of skywalker but I don't think it's like double as exciting or something I wouldn't go that far in my cinema when Rey said she was Rey skywalker there was an audible boo from one of the audience I've seen this video they're funny you shouldn't be able to heal a fatal wound like a lightsaber through the chest well by definition you can't heal a fatal wound what's the difference between a fatal wound and a mortal wound well one can't none of them can kill palpatine I've noticed this yeah I think if you have a fatal wound meaning no treatment is going to heal you but you're still alive the inherent nature of magical healing seems to imply you could still heal that's if it doesn't have limitations of course yeah like say for example it punctured your liver or something and then force healing can just reform all of it but Shad what if I just move all bonds to healing or find a bringer well the healing in chronicles of the four can get pretty OP if they stack enough bonds on them and for bringers they have a level to their healing ability they can't resurrect people or anything like that and yeah but for a single person they can generally heal most injuries on a single person no matter how severe as long as that person is still alive but that would make them done for the day they wouldn't be able to heal anyone else for a full day until they rest and recover their channeling ability to answer that if you're a magical healing in my book I'm sure it's just as well written as JJ's I'm sure that you took inspiration don't you dare say that don't you dare say that if you're a huge fan of melee combat what weapons or armor would you weld to help with that in the modern age what would I for in the modern age I can't I don't as far as I'm aware I don't think any like if I don't know if I could craft anything that would be like bullet proof I don't know the context of the question if you're a huge fan of melee combat what weapons or armor would you weld to help with that in the modern age I assume it means wield oh yeah what melee weapons would you use in the modern age in the modern age I don't want to see probably because it's got a lot of utility to it and my first directive would be to get a gun yeah exactly and the dagger is the perfect backup weapon that you can use really well in close quarters and it's viciously lethal you can use it as a bayonet it yet you can use it as a bayonet attachment and things like that so for the modern days and the other thing it's not it's nowhere near as cumbersome if you're already carrying around a rifle and stuff having another big sword on you is a bit of overkill the sword is about what four pounds of it's fairly heavy right I use metric man I don't know where you're stuck in the stone age I'm stuck in a too busy rule in the world to even care about me but I think that it's like for pounds it's like three and a half four ish pounds is like a long sword and a gun is about twice that often more three and a half four pounds is one and a half kilos then you would be correct but let me take the what is let's say kilos to pound average long sword is one point two to one point five kilos they can get lighter and heavy than that but that's the average yeah so one kilo is two point two pounds so that's an army like one one kilo is a one handed sword so an army sword but yeah basically dagger you can conceal it it won't get in your way it is good for utility but as for armor man I can't think of anything that would be bullet proof yeah maybe there's some daily maybe there's some special thing out there that's bullet proof but if we're using old materials you probably know more than I do but I can't think of any that's bullet proof especially modern firearms modern weapons at modern velocities you're kind of like I know in the trenches they would use armor sometimes but those would only defend against shots from hundreds of yards away and they basically were massive slabs of metal that just sat on your shoulders it wasn't anything you could move around in mad jack is my hero at this point I'd say ditch the armor and just stay mobile and try to hide because ain't nothing metal you're wearing is going to stop that bullet that's not modern anything that is strong enough to stop rifle rounds is ridiculously heavy and cumbersome which is why most you know combat people and stuff what one day soldiers only have like a chess plate and they have a lot of them do you have options to have additional plates I got some I got some and it's it's it's like 16 pounds I mean it's I mean luckily it's it'll save your life but it's 16 pounds man that's heavy in the EU you could force heal only minor wounds not anymore Barris offy could use force heal in canon the clone wars animated series is canon how long you're going to keep repeating this we'll keep repeating it because it's valid what so I think we made it very explicitly clear that we're not actually against force healing as a concept yeah yeah as we explained if force healing has limits right if it has limits and if it has stuff like it takes time to do it requires concentration it requires a high level of training then sure I'm okay with it but if it's just like I will bring you back from the dead now that's a let's go on let's take it a pretty far a little too far I think lethal impalement I would prefer all healing to be kept out of Star Wars as a whole because I think it has two met strong I guess implications negative effects on the narrative and suspense that Star Wars is generally able to produce through good stories and stuff and so if it's in Clone Wars I would watch the same criticisms against it but I'm not saying it's not employed better than they did in Rise of Skywalker because it probably is Rise of Skywalker's employment of it is just stupid because yeah if you employ it you want the same kind of limitations right I don't know if you guys wanted to clarify just to make sure it wasn't misunderstood blame the controller said that's not true at all about rifles and bullets modern armor is very good at stopping bullets even at close range you're more referencing I thought you were referencing like medieval style stuff right or is it yeah that's why I assumed you meant I mean maybe if you're lucky if it is a small bullet at a low velocity and it hits you at a really steep angle it'll stop it but that is a wasn't like modern armor it was it's pretty good at resisting even rifle round stuff but it gets ridiculously heavy and there is versions of modern armor that isn't nearly as strong as others as well oh yeah there's different levels and grades and stuff like that and there are some that's only rated to stop handguns and things so most will like level 3 stuff is pretty much good up to like 30 caliber for the most part depends on the kind and obviously it's not always going to be the same sometimes it's soft body armor that's much more concealable the best stuff generally comes in the form of big plates that you put in plate carriers but remember like cars aren't bullet proof like bullets are serious business yeah it's like those pesky humans designed it for that exactly isn't the Kevlar people use often take only like two bullets before that thing is near useless and unusable or at least it will get hit by it after that oh yeah the stopping power it's like you're going to stop the bullet from penetrating but the stopping power is still enough to bust your ribs um but no not quite that serious I mean you'll definitely feel it it's not going to break your ribs generally you'll feel it wait just to clarify I said after it's been shattered right so after it's been damaged after it's been hit and shattered depending on where it hits after that yeah it might obviously if it's damaged it won't be as good at stomping bullets and it also depends on what you get hit with and still none of this would kill Palpatine none of this would kill Palpatine Palpatine doesn't even need armor is the forces the dark side has many powers he has plot armor except when it's against Ray uh in my novel the saviour Libra Nina heals Lance's shoulder after it's torn by a wolf he never has full use of it and mismatched muscles thick scars fair enough uh shad healing is not always that OP it could just allow for quick healing of flesh wounds rather than full blown wolverine regen yeah maybe yeah it depends if there's limitations on it and stuff you can employ it in a story but even in that regards with Star Wars I think just keep it out of Star Wars original force powers were really good well defined, had good restrictions and could be employed in inventive ways that's all you needed and it worked really well yeah if it was only something that certain Jedi could do of a certain Jedi class certain kinds of training if it was like a non-combat thing it was like after the fight you could apply almost like it's first aid but man you gotta be, you just can't make it ultra powerful no cost easy to do just get out of jail free card essentially for storytelling yeah man Anakin heals his mother in episode 2 saga ends the worm has drogon levels of copper head should you could understand the thieves thanks for ripping into this film guys it's very cathartic and I haven't even seen it yet lol oh well that's an interesting level of catharsis so is general gay pride better or worse than general sucks I'd say he's better you guys reckon he's general sucks who do you think general sucks is general sucks and then who do you think general gay pride is referring to general sucks yeah purple hail 80 no what no no general sucks general sucks what rhymes with sucks here shad I said it was sucks I said it was sucks general gay pride you said was hold wasn't she general gay pride pride I understand why shad thought I'd be trying to review this dumpster of a movie just let my brain not unreasonable that he confused pride with admiral genders I prefer pride to sucks personally the suck comes before the pride wait what oh yeah that's all the pic of your character your pfp is from and he's a handsome one and love that artist mmm aha 10k watching at 6pm EST also hi mom aww it is past 6am over in my neck of the woods no worries just pop a force res bra in tpm obi-wan makes a little motion over quigan after he's stabbed and quigan says too late I thought that implied obi-wan was trying to heal him I don't know why would it be too late heal people after they've died maybe obi-wan was no ray true poor obi-wan he'd only been training since he was a kid she'd been training for like a day that's where he messed up that's where he messed up force healing is a bs hormone type thing I hate it okay hormone type thing I don't know what you mean by that in the EU healing needed a self induced trans alright yeah it's definitely not something you could use in combat it's more like we've won the fight now we could perform some kind of aid on anyone who's been injured Luke never uses any abilities that he hasn't already seen other Jedi use ray doesn't even need to know what the force abilities are possible to use them yeah he does the best ones by accident force lightning woops force heal yeah the exorbitant amount of crazy force users in the EU as a problem Timothy Zahn had mentioned before as being an issue I would agree yeah could someone have force healed Padme I don't know she's dying of sadness can you really heal sadness yeah puppies imagine what Anakin would have done if he found out there was such thing as force healing and he could learn how to do it the crap he went through just on the promise of immortality and there's like no you could learn force healing yeah man so good went to the best door and chat said oh be you've been bad at healing all the time don't embarrass yourself do you want me to try nah bro it's all good this ended up being my favorite star wars for all the wrong reasons where would you guys rank it it's like drawn from worst like yeah it's a draw either worst or second to worst pretty pretty bad beware the turd whims of poop rackus alright I will that sounds awful just got out of the cinema words do not exist thank fuck you masters is still on I need EFAP now bloody hell no sleep now only EFAP cleanse me cleanse me daddy Ahsoka was my favorite rip Ahsoka fought Veda Ezra went back in time to save her seriously she's alive at the end of rebels and searching for Ezra who disappeared with the hyperspace whales to defeat thrall and yes really okay alright I don't I don't know what that is I believe you yep I don't know I Luke and Leia both died due to overdosing on the force yeah just as we remember the rise of Skywalker Palpatine is a crappy knockoff of the immortal emperor in swator total garbage hail Val Corion kneel before the dragon of the cool force ghost Luke should have fought palpatine himself while Ray stayed behind I mean he can catch a lightsaber and lift an x-wing out of the water yeah but you know she can do it why would he want to do that it's dangerous why would he want to take that away from Ray otherwise the women won't watch the move yeah I like this one just says this movie is shit that I agree wise words boy Wookie you got a license for that knife yeah that's what happened with the cap that's why they stopped him yeah there's plot armor and then there's being immortal I mean that's what plot arbor is like the strongest plot arbor makes you immortal essentially yeah Poe's got it good funny how the attempt to counter her o-penis just reinforces how much of a broken Mary Sue she is at this point the archetype should be revised for her pretty much yeah like I think most people referring to her when they say Mary Sue in future well you could just Ray Sue is the new title for that definition Ray Palpatine yeah it should have been dark helmet instead of Palpatine agreed way better bad guy you don't train to learn lightning you train for telekinesis abilities it's projection of your emotions all you need is anger slash passion to use it really I don't know I've heard people saying that you need to be shot by force lightning to be able to use force lightning according to EU stuff somewhere and if that was the case you think that would be going off all the time if that's all it took is just strong angry and attuned to the force in some way yeah we have we have issues everywhere people are just blasting off wait a minute did did Ray even get hit by force lightning at all no never that's why if that's true I haven't confirmed it did she get hit did Snoke never hit her with force lightning nah just kinda gave her the maybe made her wobble he did like yeah he did like force torture on her she just goes ahhh like there's no there's no lightning yep so that's out um greetings Ray beats up people and then becomes allies that's some anime level stuff oh hey look I I hated that I had hated that she's like I want to kill you so fucking bad right now gets whacked with a stick well I guess I love you guys are okay the leaks for this film maybe break down and make my first car video it was more of a rant than anything just thought I'd give it a shot there you go another person what's happening JJ's bringing people to the creative realm of YouTube here's the amount I'd spend on a TROS ticket y'all deserve it way more than Disney I've gotten far more entertainment and enlightenment from y'all than anything Disney put under Star Wars thanks thank you and five times the links if R2 can back up his memory then why didn't BB-8 yes BB-8 can't that's just not something BB-8 can do I guess not neither Dio could do it Shad any tips on marketing a book start a YouTube channel it really helped me there you go that's basically it I mean marketing a self-published novel without having any reach is very tricky very difficult so building a platform of any kind even if it's a blog, facebook page or anything is going to help out tremendously and if you're not going to be doing that you need to get word of mouth a lot and like in all honesty a different publishing strategy will probably serve better and this was even a Vice-Brandon Sanderson was saying to people and even when I was talking to him about it if you're going to be self-publishing and you don't have a marketing platform self-publishing several books fairly close together even if they're shorter is something that could get more attention more notice in Amazon's algorithm and stuff depending on what you're publishing through to build kind of a momentum that way so it's a tricky thing it's weird how many of the high-star reviews on Rotten Tomatoes or by accounts that have generic names no profile pictures and no other movies reviewed in their history ah you see that's what I'm talking about no they must have loved this movie that much yeah they really liked it guys they just I'm sure Bob loved it very much they turned Palpatine into GLaDOS mouth of Sauron guardian of the prison of Azkaban with his Dementor fingers he also earrapes and lightning-spunks the sky vote credit to Creamy Sheaf well yeah that about sums it up saw the movie how can it be that horrible seriously leaks were true JJ how can you be so stupid what the fuck man I'm pissed off Rah get your roof this roof has a lot of like desires do you want to rent it out or not better if you want to make money true the Disney trilogy is not about Jedi and Sith battling each other it's about demigods fighting for dominance in the galaxy bland bland demigods not gonna disagree with that thank you all for the laughs this year and Merry Christmas you massive massives Merry Crimbo to you too sir Merry Crim Crim Chris bounty hunter ghosts have mullets and leather vests that would be cool ghosts to be fair we don't know how big the rebel fleet was in return of the Jedi in the EU the rebels lost thousands of ships at Yavin alone but were not defeated but we saw it didn't we there's several like wide shots in return of the Jedi how big the rebel fleet was unless they mean like in total across the universe because yeah there could be more or whatever no no they came because Lando showed up with his capes oh right he would have been like hey check this out don't you want to help out with the cause he wooed all their computer AI I'm surprised he was interested in that woman at the end did you guys lull at the base drop meme sound when Palpatine shot the lightning I was dying I actually was that was hilarious Palpatine believed in redundancy when it came to Death Stars but not navigation towers nah who needs them most people know how to go up I'm sure it'll be fine they needed to watch the Pixar movie in order to understand the concept of up because it turns out they didn't know exactly what it was yeah if they had some balloons they'd know which way is up there you go some reason some reason lost chat super chat didn't work someone yelled and clapped when Star Wars came up several people groaned in response and I just felt bad because I knew it was about to happen honestly when I was in the cinema and it said the dead speak I was like oh my god here we go the dead speak this is it the dead speak dead speak what is the point of all of this if we can't go up yeah I know oh wait that's a reference isn't it what's the point of all of this if we can't go up like that's what we'd say in TLG I guess chips are having erectile dysfunction can't get up nope up are these the clone troopers with the minds of children children know how to go up children know how to go up yeah yeah that's simple every child knows up from down hmm when Palpatine did his ERA base boosted lightning I actually cried laughing so hard please tell me I'm not alone there it was pretty funny yeah wait if Palpy controls Snoke then what the fuck was Snoke doing in TLG with Rey explained JJ explained no he doesn't have to explain anything he's leaving Star Wars forever clearly Hux's skin actually begins at the pants oh that was the knee wound yeah wait just could I also random comment right one of the problems with this movie Rise of Skywalker was trying to find a proper antagonist because Snoke was dead you know trying to explain how Snoke survived and bringing him as their antagonist in the next movie would it be is takes less leaps and logic than bringing back Palpatine himself just like you know we've had people trapped in half survive and come back in Star Wars already so they could have just brought Snoke back it is alive and angry with Watch Revenge I'd sooner believe that then I mean and Disney's done it before Disney brought back Darth Maul in the solo movie exactly that's what I mean that's exactly what I mean they did it you could literally have Snoke was like that was a hologram and I made it look like you killed me lol and we'd all be like okay hologram alright I obviously picked Palpatine because he's so much more menacing and has so much more weight to him but he's well known yeah just have Snoke start off and have him murder a couple of those main useless characters either Rose maybe I'd be sad to see Pogo but he could have been on the chopping block to have him and then that would make it really take Snoke seriously if he did something like that at the beginning wait it's four hours in and you're just at Endor yes I joined four hours and 50 minutes late hello future hello I think during the council meeting one of the first order officers says something along the lines of with all the Sith fleet our numbers will increase 10,000 fold which means the size of the fleet can be unbelievably massive well didn't we talk about this we were like they must have had one ship in the first order at that time then for that statement to be accurate because they didn't have I think it would be generous to say they had more than 10,000 Star Destroyers on Exegol it probably goes far as say a thousand maybe a thousand a thousand okay Mola can you say the N word for chats Christmas if I was interested it's Christmas yeah I already said it the N word yeah I feel like much like the Christmas spirit this violates the spirit of the question I have answered the question literally and that is my requirements as not sure if all right but you might get a few angry emails that say the N word or happy emails thanking me for a good Christmas message of the N word maybe I doubt it I need to ask before the second half on Exegol they walked under the floating structure and descended where to what was the role of the floating structure to get them down to the super basement to look imposing I mean I was gonna raise that as like a weird thing but they said you know there are weird gravity well things happening on this planet everywhere is like all right fine how about the space surrounding it not that no I thought even on the surface things happening in gravity and electromagnetic forces and lightning and things and says all right it's floating still weird there's just this big floating block well we know in this trilogy it's only a one-way elevator goes down not up everyone I know who likes this abysmal movie either ignores previous movies or turns their brain off I think it's anyway high rags hello to get this out of the way this is not a good film I know it isn't the sequels are still by far the weakest trilogy however I didn't hate it in fact I quite enjoyed myself it felt prequels bad not sequels bad you can like it yeah like it freak Google goonies coin scene he though the movie should have entitled rise of Palpatine instead though commit to something Jar Jar Abrams it would have described the main plot the emperor rises and foreshadow the twist Ray Palpatine I don't think they would want it to have implied the last film the saga was the rise of the villain they probably did want to avoid that Rey knew Chewie was alive because she sensed him on Kylo Star Destroyer right could she not oh yeah I did read that out at the time why did they bring the horses anyway did they plan for the first order to move the signal from the tower to the capital ship they were planning on using them on the ground of eggs ago I guess yeah I mean this is a good age for cavalry yeah shooting it from the sky was not adequate enough wouldn't they just land next to it why would they even need the horses at that point it's so dumb don't they didn't need a ground assault at all just but don't bring like speeders with guns or anything bring horses this is the age of cavalry can no one in the universe think killing civilians is bad unless they're force sensitive oh do you is that in reference to oh that was the reference of what broke his it's not just that I think it's the it's mental conditioning that as they've been going through ever since they were kidnapped it's not just oh a bad thing this is obviously bad I mean you know like there's like in real life right people will do terrible horrible things with the right motivation without brainwashing but you add in years and years and years of brainwashing to that and you're like man that's a pretty solid way to indoctrinate people's mind um I think I found Kylo Ren's origin Kybo Ren laugh my ass off Kybo Ren did y'all like how there was about 10 seconds dedicated entirely to showing the effectiveness of the Y-Wings fuck anyone who still defends the shit bombers only took seconds for a single Y-Wing to blow up a whole star destroyer will this EFAP be the accidental 24 hour one I think we're gonna once we hit the cap we will be signing off how are we looking we have half an hour left yeah we have exactly 26 minutes I think until we hit the cap and if it wasn't capped I would push to get it all these done but I'm afraid that it's not gonna be a thing when we start another stream for I'm sure I would name it but we'll just we can just refocus anyway and it's always better to have an energy refresh for when reading these yeah I could use food same same same this trilogy will go down in history as the worst when people review this in 10 years people will be asking wait what was the point of any of this the original trilogy press the prequels despite flaws at a solid purpose agreed I just left Cirque du Soleil EFAP confirmed bigger audience well you know it is EFAP Cirque du Soleil Star Wars edition oh this will tell us where we are go away now oh hi rags oh guess who just left I feel like we just jumped through time quite significantly because he didn't leave until way later didn't he um I think he left another two hours maybe like five hours all right well all right yeah not bad wouldn't someone have gone to check out salvage the wreckage sometime in the last 30 years as well just a thought yeah uh yeah yeah definitely seems like a super valuable to salvage what would be in there all over the galaxy people would go in there to get weapons and armor and equipment electronics oh man that thing would be lootable for years wait so the whole time Leia knew how to use a lightsaber in the force but sent her to fight Kylo and Snoke without teaching her the basics uh oh uh force but did Leia didn't send Ray to fight Kylo no Luke sent her no he didn't even send her he didn't want her to go yeah I think all Leia might have done is send Ray to talk to Luke which is still weird um Mola let's skip the fight scene Shad gonna stop you right there well yes that was fair that's exactly what happened uh Mola this movie makes me want to die hurry up and finish talking about it so I can die emotionally starting Buffy season six please oh my good luck sir uh execute EFAP 66 Darth Uchi Jeb I'm looking forward to watching this stream when I catch up still at EFAP 55 this movie looks so bad and I want to see how my sis reacts to it finally caught in EFAP live hi everyone I'm actually going to see this movie tomorrow grant me strength long man and dog sure give you strength uh force lightning isn't working this calls for more force lightning Mary high rags must everybody rags mess rags mess uh that moment when we'll never see the Vaughn on the big screen maybe that's for the best whenever someone says like oh I want to see the blah blah blah I'm like yeah yeah look what they did the OT just saying uh two time stamps from previous EFAP episodes play them in order and enjoy uh you know I will hang on to that and uh I can try and get through a few more of these but I will put it in the notes for me and rags to possibly check out I'm not sure what it is but it could be funny remember that a supposed prequel chiss versus the Vaughn trilogy was announced guess those are shit can now probably look at these massives ranting about a movie about space wizards intended for children shake my head excuse me while I watch the smartest movies hurt zogs yeah so we could war on referencing Patrick Williams he got blocked by Patrick Williams by the way he posted the meme picture too much Patrick was like stop it didn't say that stop using my words against me it's cruel that's harassment they fly now versus she kind of forgot about the iron fleet yep it's just epic lines from the history of media uh ties don't have hyper drives all wayfinders apparently they do have hyper drive they do have hyper drives yeah the old ones didn't in the OT they didn't have hyper drives they didn't even have life support that's the uh outfits that they were on the inside they didn't have shields either every star destroyer has a marvin the martian gun inside uh it does look silly sticking out of the yeah a little bit rags your laugh is the most musical joyful sounding thing i've ever heard in my life every time i hear it i find myself falling more and more in love with you good doggo yay oh i'll make sure to laugh more i'll be up to routine levels eventually uh remember to go low the destroyers can't hit us without hitting each other that's what they say here's the thing so i don't believe that poe says that when they're going in they were like attacking the star destroyers i mean i think it's worth the risk like if we might hit some of our own star destroyers like yeah guys they try to destroy our entire fleet i'd probably risk it yeah like you know at this point it's kind of our own fault for not being able to go up so yeah uh if they manage to minimize death star tech so it can be used by ships why didn't they just divert all resources into making this tech instead of building both stars and star killer i don't know the world may never know they make interesting decisions mm-hmm um the yuzang vong that's probably a step above death star destroyers do you think though like a legion of death star destroyers like i don't know specifically what the yuzang vong do but like thousands of you know yeah they were so incredibly overpowered and i think jj knew this that they had to make such contrived bullcrap to set up situation where the good guys could still win because if any of those ships left that planet it was game over for the entire galaxy like you can't fight against that level of insanity and so they wrote themselves into a corner and then they had to use arbitrary bullcrap to try and fix the problem and so it's not no uh 2415 in EU palpatine lune 4 storm which created a lightning ball big enough to blow up a planet it backfired and he killed himself and his fleet wow people keep listing some really insane crap coming out of the um expanded universe again and just something more and more and like okay i mean yeah that doesn't you know uh congrats on breaking 10,000 live viewers boys why thank you it was very very cool it was glorious anyone on the panel got weed related stories if you've tried it or regularly use it or not at all like a shit orphan the don would jake skywalker the don i do not uh i do not eat of the lotus so to speak never really been into it i have partake but i have no interesting story yeah no i don't really care i'm i'm a Mormon so they get turned up yeah they take a lot of it regularly is that what you're saying they're like Catholics no i don't i don't even drink alcohol damn oh what about soda yeah like on a k like when i feel like it uh i remember there was almost no laughter at my screening there was a small contingent of retards trying their best to by clapping at shit but it was mostly silent the part where kylo heals ray and then dies was hilariously met with laughter and what and clapping it's a weird one for sure remember what Carrie Fisher said about tlj it's about family i guess riser skywalker was about murdering your family no it's about choosing your family kill them to make them better um laia i'll stop training because it will lead to my son's death also laia i'll distract my son so he gets stabbed with a lightsaber well is that a plan i don't know if she planned that but kind of the timing was pretty weird wow ray you have all people i thought we were friends but okay he seems so pure this movie itches more than my poison oak legs oh that's not good ray use force car wash car wash and dry isn't it obvious car wash and dry i'm confused i don't know i don't know do why i'm not sure is that referencing the fact that he like saves the entire plot okay i just got back from watching it a second time i have fresh memories so i can answer some plot based questions fair enough i think we covered it mostly statistically speaking the holder maneuver is a one to one or one out of one seems like it i mean there's a chance you could miss but for the first time it was tried it worked oh yeah true true you see guys holders plan was to escape but she got really unlucky and technically because we saw one other instance of it happening as well with no other any attempts and failings it seems to be two out of two so it's pretty reliable maybe yeah they really did swallow the grenade is that referencing like in terms of writing or like a metaphor for writing i've heard that but it sounds appropriate metaphorically if it's really one in a million why did holder give heat to poe for betting the survival resistance on bad odds her plan was just as reckless yep i 100% agree that sounds like the worst odds you could possibly throw what in a million i love the idea that lay was probably like well you know she wasn't intending to do the holder maneuver though was she the only circumstantial thing to try and protect the i love the idea that she was trying to escape and she fucked it up that line about the holder maneuver can you actually write something that's a bigger cop out because i'm blanking it's one of the top tier ones i don't think there's many others i can compare to that that's pretty bad remember huck's lost his shit because of a one out of a million successful attack on intel j well the thing people referencing is that he was losing his mind that the potential but if someone was about to commit to a move that has a one in a million chance of hurting you or killing you even like that's probably you know like a shooting range like the idea that a bullet could ricochet and fucking hit someone in like between the eyes but obviously there are state safety precautions to prevent something like that i just mean like something ridiculous like final destination style shit merry christmas to my fabulous massives will you consider having i hate everything on as a redemption arc for with his latest video i don't know that he wanted i don't think he wants to come on e-fap like the impression i got with the conversation with him i think he just wanted to make sure this is all cleared up and that bad blood can go away but come on e-fap in general shad are asking them to shoot a planet destroying cannon pointed down at exegol and blow up the sith planet killing everyone that's a confusing way to write that yeah i'm not sure exactly what you're asking there going to post it in the thing so you can see it shad are asking them to shoot a planet destroying cannon pointed down at exegol and blow up the sith planet killing everyone is he asking if i'm asking that or is he asking maybe kill everyone i i think i think he's this is the nature of would that not kill everyone in the battle i never said exegol i said point them up and shoot all the ships flying at them and they would have obliterated the galactic alliance people that were coming to fight they never shoot their big cannons once not once and they've got a crap power of unparalleled you know capacity and they don't even use it uh this person followed up was saying do we even know that they can tilt um it's a spaceship mate so it doesn't like it can do anything it like so you know like the millennium falcon it can just float and turn left right up down however once and then move it in whatever way like this is the same for the star destroyers yeah it just has to tilt its bow for uh bow upwards so that the cannon could be exactly exactly that's all they needed to do yeah and uh we've seen star destroyer maneuverability they can turn around they can rotate they can fly and these are the same type of star destroyers in the original trilogy there's nothing indicating they wouldn't be able to do that at all and if you're saying it's the planet preventing them we see other ships in that atmosphere rotating and flying around without any problems they don't need extra navigation to fly around and fight and dog fighting the larger ships do they know what up is when they get to exegol yeah how come the rebels know what up is how come the rebels know what up is that's an oddest question to ask about this so you just let their faces i guess why have horses the amount of recourse in upkeep would be hardily unreasonable plus they ship 20 pounds a day each on a spaceship so you know that's probably fantastic i would love to know where they're getting all their food from i'll try spinning that's a good move to get rid of horses yeah you just tilted it you can just tilt it 30 degrees and man hang on uh fringy they can't tell what up is why do you assume they can read a map yeah the fringy thought they could read a map he was obviously mistaken uh it'd be like north that's up right they should have used spinning that's a good trick doesn't the star destroyer have horse jammer right next to the decloaking horse jam jam their horses they only have so many buttons for so many vehicles don't you man babies understand finn knew the broadcast tower was in that ship because he'd used to mop on it also hyrax hey mollus said that that would have been a better explanation when they said how do you know it's like well i know the first order schematics and stuff that's the type of ship um so yeah that would have made more sense if he said something like that and if you want to write it poorly he just goes i used to mop that ship just add it to his list of giant spaceships he used to be a janitor ought to be like yeah sure whatever i mopped all the ships i mopped the emperor sir which way is up shad's delivery was perfect did i hear a fucking 808 bad base drop when palpatine lightning the sky what a demise of the skywalker yep is there a reason after demonstrating his ability to use the force to fling people around like dolls that he doesn't use that power in combat later there is no reason no he just tries lightning it doesn't work and he dies simple as that yeah it doesn't work so he keeps trying it even as frying his face he keeps on trying not my canon fuck fuck kk sorry what did i miss something how did ben get back to exegol ray took his ship and left him on a ruined death star she used water speeder to get to it he the first order knew they were there so they must have had some ships there or something or you could get the x-wing a tie fighter from the death star that was our two explanations for that you see more of ryan didn't edit out the weapon from the throne room scene ray just force-sciped it out of existence boom galaxy braid retcon oh no he's explained it and uh yeah we have just under 10 minutes now on another note on another note have y'all seen the tenet trailer i have it's interesting looks neat yeah i have not glad to see you and i hit everything made up look at riser skywalker bringing people together in unbridled hatred this movie unironically gave me a migraine after i watched it there were warnings for seizures and migraines from the light flashing in the movie please reference and talk of that thanks hi wags hello hello yeah it was rough we have talked about it so that's yeah with palpatine on an exploding death star two is what the fuck but the blue wave thing after the explosion could be his power going to another body still think the riser skywalker is really good i'll explain about anakin sacrifice not being in vain really though the blue wave is palpatine is that what he's saying yeah doesn't go into a new body like his body is wrecked if he wasn't in a new body how would it be in palpatine's body if his body was smithereens like out of the way maybe one of his other bodies maybe he's got spares he's got like a little shelf of palpatine bodies yeah they're hanging up in the closet this is my monday body i always know what to wear but specifically they're corpse bodies we need to remember that because he didn't want to make you know like healthy bodies that he would be able to walk around it doesn't work either way he just fucked he chose the one with fucked up fingers i am genuinely interested to hear people's arguments to try and substantiate this as a good film oh jay's arrived jay you've got like five minutes before we have to stop how dare he also it says alex splayed anakin sacrifice not being in vain anakin the only thing that he accomplished that didn't get fucked was saving luke he did not stop the empire not even close and he did not defeat palpatine and he did not bring balance to the force that's like three out of the four things he tried to achieve destroyed i would say that's pretty significant i am oh uh uh just wanted to point out how dumb light speed skip is from what i could tell po was making random jumps seriously he could have crashed the falcon into a black hole a sun or an asteroid while in hyperspace yeah again though i still think that's the better option than you know getting fucked by the first order like and the risk is not as significant as uh the movie makes it out to be at least that's my understanding he should have been coming out in the empty space but the big problem that we've found with it is that he shouldn't be able to jump between planetary star systems that quickly that's just ridiculous he didn't need to run anyway you saw when they were in that narrow ice cave and they were straight going straight into three tie fighters and no matter how narrow that pathway was and how big that ship was they still couldn't fight um gonna go to sleep see a masses when i wake up good night good night sounds like a rip off of the story of the old republic probably because it might be who knows i don't know where we can get these ideas from entirely i think it's a better if we're picking off the old republic stuff uh when everyone fell into the quicksand and there was a moment of silence i knew they weren't dead but the characters were annoying enough that i said yay in the theater movie should have ended hey silence for two days the rt score has been 86% now with any change from 600 reviews to 23k it doesn't work like that yeah it doesn't work really that seems really really weird the only people that will be left defending this film are people who play video games on journalist mode because the film is game played on journalist mode i mean you could have structured that a little better bill puncher but yes i kind of agree with you i think i get the theme of your super chat uh ron tomato says verified audience score so they decide who is verified it can be 86 persons and even when 30k more review it only those 86 count unverify bad reviews this movie only has 18k ratings tfa and tlj had over 200k yeah i guess we'll see if the rating changes i'm almost sure it won't by the looks of things just as a sort of you know sample size seems not steady man that's crazy suspect even so where was the good side army at the end of tlj they just abandoned everyone they didn't care but now that the enemy has thousands of death cannon lasers now they really want to help uh don't forget ron tomatoes changed this voting system around miss marvel only people who bought tickets online through that one company ahead of time can review and even then they probably rig it would swing the percentage high 60s maybe low 70s could be reasonable from normie audiences yeah i would say high 60s i'd find reasonable from like random audiences it's all the movie free fap only not doing this again would you guys be kind enough to read the last five messages i sent explaining anakin being the chosen one and why his death wasn't in vain please i haven't not in five minutes oh if that was sent in chat there's no way i can find that those are tweets i think tweets not enough time at the moment and i can't do that because then everybody will start doing that like sending super chests with like an assay attached with tweets i'd have to make a rule on that one otherwise oh i've got like three minutes left i'll probably read a couple more and then we'll sort of do as best an outro as i can um rogue one is the only decent star wars movie and everything else is trash tier nonsense buying star wars has been a net loss for disney i don't think they've had a net loss in money made i think they said like even tfa alone had made their money back right or they bought star wars like four billion i'm pretty sure that i've heard several people say that they've had their money back by now solo lose money oh yeah right so it looks like um lucas told iger he was considering retirement while disney announced the deal to acquire lucas film for four point zero five billion with approximately half in cash and half in shares of disney stop uh six years after buying lucas film disney is recouped how much it cost to buy it apparently okay yeah 2018 i guess is when they've they got their money back um if this money makes less than joker someone should rub it in movie blobs face uh um the only good star wars toys are lego's not cheap though i can imagine lego's are expensive uh biggest biggest gripe with this movie isoka a fan favorite from clone wars and rebels is in the mary sue force goes cheer squad the thing is she was alive last we saw her well after the jedi purge she's not even old enough to have died of old age she'd be 71 a hundred is the average for her race 200 with the force thanks JJ it's like a christmas card that says hey your grandma died fuck you stop drinking the prequel cool aids they suck damn harsh uh did anyone else notice that ben only died when ray kissed ben after he'd already revived it did ray suck out ben's life force at the end sucked out his man's uses right right there and with that because we only got a minute left i'm gonna say that is the end of the stream i will collect all of the remaining super chats with these will be sorted i'm currently working on the unbridled rage for this movie and this will be uploaded to moola um every link you'll need for the people who guested today are all in the description thank you all very much for the kind donations and for obviously checking out this stream so very crazy amount of viewers honestly and what else should i say uh thank you all for the guests for spending so so long here it's been appreciate it guys good stuff absolutely great turnout great turnout this has been a highlight for me happy times excellent stuff and yeah 20 seconds from waiting so we're gonna have to say goodbye uh thanks again everybody we will catch you again in the future memes and reading out super chats it'll all happen in future 100% um but that's it good night good night bye bye