 You know what let's see actually here might work. Maybe what do you think all right, man? I could put it closer to my mouth It's kind of wiggly because my ears are weird. Does that how's that is that pretty red? I'll try not to bump it too much How is everybody before we get started? We're going to be giving away some stuff well one stuff one thing This is one of those old next-cloud boxes everyone know what this is It's kind of rad If you do not know what this is you can see the next cloud booth over in the exhibit hall over the next few days We're going to give one away. They just came up with this idea a few moments ago So we're going to wing this here's how this is going to work During the show feel free to take pictures you can tweet said pictures hashtag Linux sucks hashtag scale 15x That man right there wave wave around y'all The man with the hat the weird Dutchman right there He's going to go through all of those tweets. He's going to pick one that is rad He gets to choose. I get no say in the matter. It can be how ugly I am It can be a funny picture about me. It can be whatever you want. It can be a poem It really doesn't matter. He gets to choose after this. I'm gonna invite him up on stage He'll tell me which one wins and then you get to go grab this from their booths tomorrow tomorrow Sound good Simple they understand hashtag Linux sucks hashtag. What's the hashtag for scale 15x? Whatever the thing is for scale tweet that thing that way he can see it and do a search for it and whatever this this thing cool sound people How are we feeling? Is that a? Okay, go or stop Stop. I'm good. I will I will stop How you doing? You doing good? You look like you're doing good Yeah, just recline back is a very chill show If you're standing in the back That's stupid come and sit somewhere Where's where's my old bad voltage former co-host? I see one of the other two here Are they a holes? Just the one Yeah, yeah, this is this is how we decide whether they hills or not. We're just hanging out to the AB people give me the thumbs up I'm cool We're cool to hang out for two or three more minutes, right? What would you guys like to talk about? They like I'm not talking about unity eight and I'm not talking about the sousaphone Though if you would like to see a sousaphone Definitely email people at Susan and let them know I sure do all the time can listen to me drink. Oh, I broke it It's supposed to do that. Yes He said nodding. Yes. Oh, it's magnetic Well, that's cool. You guys seen the inside of one of these That's rad. So it's basically it's just a little raspberry pie on the inside Connected to a hard drive so we can set it up as your own little dedicated cloud storage device That's kind of awesome in every way With the inside You're welcome. Oh, you're okay. You're okay You're a little bit of it, leaving the stage He's going away And just to be clear, do we have sound for the laptop as well? Yes. All right. Hopefully it's not too loud All right, everybody This is the last Linux sucks of all time. How many people have seen these Linux sucks things I do before? One or two of you have cool This one you'll notice is the first one with a sponsor Let's dive into it. My name is Brian Lunduk. I do a lot of things I'm one of the board members over on the open suzer project. I'm a journalist. I think Various other stuff. Nothing really qualifies me to do this, but there you have it Let's hear from our sponsor. Hey Brian Lunduk's on the phone Who Brian Lunduk, you know, he's got that show Linux sucks. We told him we would sponsor it Dude, tell him I'm busy. Can't you see I'm playing Zelda come on Aquamanus your mind That was the entire video they sent me I gotta give them props because they got the name of that bad guy in Zelda, right That's Aquamanus if if you don't know who that particular one is so look that up on Wikipedia This is very important information. All right Here's a rather weird stat this series which has I've been doing since 2009 has over 2.7 million Views at least there's also a bunch of people that have downloaded it Reposted it to Facebook and on their own channels on YouTube and whatnot So it's got a whole bunch of others but 2.7 million that I can easily measure So I decided to compare that Technically Yeah, me too So that is that is real that is legit. Whoa. Whoa. What's going on? What's going on? There we go All right, so 1.1 million views for the most viewed Linux sucks video I believe that was the 2014 version of this that we did The average prime time high rating slot for CNN is 0.9 million Which means based on numbers that more people care about Linux than politics That's fucking math Right there. That is absolutely legit. There is absolutely no number fudging in that I almost made it less than that based on previous months ratings from CNN But they had a little bit of spikes so it got closer But still not not even not even really that close it's not it's not all rosy though because technically There are some shows that perform better than this little thing. We're doing right now Particularly keeping up with the Kardashians, which even in its current ratings slump pulls in literally twice as many views as Linux sucks But what this does mean is that these are the things that America loves So what we have is a Linux sandwich with Kardashians and politics as the bread I Think that is kind of amazing When I sat down a couple of months ago to think about what next to do I actually forced myself to watch all of my Linux sucks presentations It's not an easy thing to do How many of you have seen some of the first ones from like back in 2009 and such And not as many of you most of you probably seen the more recent ones the better ones as I was going through it I started noticing Patterns things that kept cropping up time and time again, and I thought you know what? We need to go over this because this is important right? We need to learn from history. We need to learn What mistakes we have made with Linux in the past and not make them in the future for one goddamn time in our lives? So that's what we're gonna do and we're gonna start with 2009 and we're gonna go through all of these so buckle up This is the very first slide ever of Linux sucks it is a grub loader because The video out wasn't working on that laptop this was again in 2009 I believe this was running whatever version of a bunch who was out in 2009 because I was mostly in a bunch of guy back then Couldn't get it working couldn't get anything up on the projector to save my friggin life had to have a guy come up on stage and Basically fix it with a whole bunch of XR and R while I vamped for like five or six minutes Well before he got it working and we could continue onward Interesting. No that guy who came up and helped me worked for Suza Became one of my close friends and eventually got me to start working for Susan switch away from Ubuntu Which you can see trying to load right there Also interesting side note and this isn't so much Linux as That hairstyle of mine Closer look that was a mistake It's gonna be that apple I take a drink and yes, there are more slides of my hair So as I was going through this first thing that started popping up over and over and over again Audio framework issues. Do you guys remember back into how many people were Linux users in 2009? Most of you okay. Do you guys remember like the audio framework wars of 2009 2010? I mean there was so much stuff going on the KDE guys We're gonna have their own solution to everything pulse audio was coming out and just breaking all of our shit It was getting crazy. It was to the point where if you plugged in an audio device You probably had to reboot then because everything was screwed up If you had let's say Skype up and running went back when Skype for Linux was real and not just a web app thing It probably took over the audio on your system and made it so YouTube videos would stop playing audio anymore It was friggin awful. And so in 2009 I was I was whining about that Remember that we were talking about that in 2009 How many people Back in 2009 bought a laptop and tried to put Linux on it How many people keep your hands up keep your hands up keep your hands up if Wi-Fi did not fucking work Most of you if you if you put your hands, we didn't have it up before like retroactively cool It was it was terrible. It was awful. There was so many problems. Do you the third bullet there? Updates that break core functionality. Do you guys remember? There's a bit of memory lane stuff here Do you guys remember that update a few years ago where a bunch who rolls out an update and all of a sudden X org dies? Do you guys remember this? This was probably 2010 2009 that sucked because no one knew it was happening You just didn't have display anymore ever. It was Awful also that last bullet point there the lack of specific types of software becoming available less of an issue nowadays But for years that was a problem for years We had always had the issue when you try to convert someone to Linux They were like, oh, well, I can't use Linux because you know, I don't have Photoshop Or I don't have X bit of functionality or there's no working video editor that continued to be a problem again 2009 2010 Brace yourself a little bit for this one. I I know I know Notice the slide deck right there Exact same words the very next year same problems same words and here's the thing They didn't get better an entire year went by and not only were there no improvements in throughout if you go Watch the 2010 one. There was new examples of how everything sucked even more It was so easy to do these presentations in 2010. It was ridiculous The the hair though There's so many mistakes going on here. I Don't know what this thing is It's not even a full mustache. Why didn't I shave that day? I don't think I was growing anything out Was I making a statement and the thing coming off my ear? I assume that's a microphone But it looks like a rat tail growing out of the back of my right ear That picture is depressing and now it exists forever 2010 Audio problems. Did you guys remember some of these remember phone on again? More and more and more ways to solve the exact same problem, which was get audio working in the first place Over and over again and none of this really helped all that much some things got better as we went But this is 2010 It works pretty well in 2017 it took us over eight years of Bitching and moaning and begging before this stuff started working How crazy is that who still has audio problems under Linux like a quarter of you? That's pretty bad. I was not expecting that many hands up. So I'm gonna keep moving now Here's the first time X org starts popping up in these presentations 2010 X.org is old Multiple monitors are problematic. Oh my goodness new versions of X or no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah That's definitely calling out that a bunch of breakage. So it definitely happened in 2010 Configuration problems wireless drivers were still issues it was Not a great time honestly if you were a Linux user in 2010 it kind of blew chunks in a lot of ways I mean Linux was awesome, but it was painful. It was really painful and this Packaging issues back in 2010 and 2009 We were complaining because there was too many options for packaging It seemed like every distro wanted to create their own packaging system, right? Are there any similarities to that happening nowadays? Maybe all of you are mockingly shaking your heads. That's fantastic And this was a problem back then and it's a problem nowadays because it's people duplicating effort to do the same damn thing That their friends are doing literally. Okay, raise your hand who here works or works with a bunch of Okay, quite a few of you dance down hands down you stupid people Arch give me some arch whoa Dude, Arch is on the uptake even the guy in the back Yeah, you go guy in the back got the jogging suit on rocking the arch about open Suza people Yeah represent my boys That's that's just the thing. There's three groups. That's just three There's more we could go through them all night, but there's three of them. We're all mixed together We're all friends with each other half of us have worked at each other's companies And yet each and every one of us is working on a completely different package management system That is not only different than our neighbors and our friends running on the same operating system But in many ways different than what we had before Which makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever and again, that's 2010 games Here's a weird one. This slide is from 2010 and I put this up here because this has gotten better right in 2010 Doom 3 came out on Linux and it had problems. It was kind of buggy But weren't we all excited that it came out? I Bought it. I'm not that big of a Doom guy, but I bought it I bought never winter nights for Linux because it was for Linux It had the word Linux on it. So I bought it. It was a difficult time Now a lot of those games from back in those days Actually, a lot of them don't even run nowadays because a lot of these are proprietary games and the developer never made a lot of money off of it So they just stopped supporting it and that kind of sucks, but We now have a lot of games Does anyone here Currently as of right now do a boot into Windows to play games. Oh Wow, that's actually quite a few of you. All right, put your hands down. How many people used to but don't anymore That's more that makes me feel better. Okay, right? It's gotten a lot better And it's really surprising how much better that's gotten because it was terrible. It was just terrible 2011 have you guys known that Xorg has been around a while It's old. It was old in 2010 and 2009 now. It's still old in 2011 I wonder if someone will get around to fixing that someday all the same issues still happening several years of Me whining and bitching and moaning and complaining now I Grew hair. I don't know what to say about this picture at all But I'm not really sure how I grew that much hair in just one year. Also my stashes bitching in this I Never could grow a beard, but man, can I rock the stash also America? Packaging same slide literally three years running I used almost the exact same slides every time for this presentation Trying to beat the distro makers over the head until they friggin fix the problem Of course nowadays, they've added more packaging formats, but you know, they kind of went the other way on that one That's okay. That's all right. It's all right. I'm cool. I can I can shove it off Does anyone here do video editing on Linux right now? It's not bad, right? You use open shot or Katie in live most likely Few nods couple of handshakes, but yeah head shakes, but yeah mostly now back in 2010 2011 this just didn't work I mean did any people had to dual boot they had to have a Mac or they had to run Windows in order to edit video a lot Of the Linux videos that you find online from that era were edited under Windows or Mac in fact All of the videos for this series up until this point were edited on either Windows or Mac because every time we tried to do Simple edits on them. They crashed under every Linux video editor listed there except for lightworks, which never really happened Which kind of stunk, but nowadays we actually have a couple of decent options. I use Katie in live It works pretty good, right? It's pretty awesome. That's awesome. It took a lot of times, but it's awesome Again, the game thing keeps coming up over and over again and yet now it's not so much of an issue I'm gonna jump past this one. I just included it here because it's the exact same slide and I like repeating myself 2011 the Ubuntu Software Center came here and I put this picture up of this slide Because I said that the Ubuntu Software Center is a great start. I would like to take that back That was a mistake We'll get that into that slightly later now. Here's a weird one 2011 this is what the mobile space for Linux powered mobiles looked like maybe Android will eventually take off That was the thought we didn't know if it would at this point We had a little a T-Mobile g1 thing that had like a roller-ball mouse on the side that barely functioned And you couldn't really upgrade it and there was Mamo and Mego anyone remember those Yeah, Mamo was my jam. It was basically Debian on a handheld. It was friggin awesome Good times. Those are dead now 2012 What's that more driver issues same exact? Friggin issues in 2012 again. This is what the fourth year of me doing this now Not like me standing up on stage produces instant results I don't just whine and then this guy goes out and it's like well Brian whined about it I'm gonna fix all this friggin bugs for him but people Besides me are complaining. We're complaining for years on end and people were focusing on other things or we had Splits in the community or we had forks in projects We had a continual Turmoil that just meant we never made good forward progress on a lot of these issues for a number of years That quickly started changing Hey, look Xorg is old. Also. I have a scarf I wonder if I have a pick better picture of me in there somewhere, but Xorg is still old again Same slide for three years running. Oh packaging sucks in 2012 exact same problem There we go. I did put a picture of me in there. I parted my hair down the middle, huh fancy 2013 I Decided to change the theme with my slides This was my favorite year because this was one of the most chaotic years in Modern Linux history. This was the year that canonical said we're gonna make our own display server This was the year that Wayland project really kicked in the high gear So we now have three competing display servers instead of one old and crusty display server But don't worry the other two won't ship for many years and I just put this in here because I Had a really difficult time back then Recommending things to people and that's changed a little bit now, but not a lot There were so many desktop environments that continued to Fracture the marketplace. There was a time when it was Gnomar KDE Realistically there was a thousand other options and like there should be but there was a time when Gnomar KDE was it That was it that was what you recommended one or the other You were in one camp or the other and that was it and then unity and cinnamon and Gnome too got fortune to Matei Stuff got crazy and and it just got ridiculous and you didn't really know what to recommend to people anymore Which is really this slide and we started seeing more and more of this with the new display servers with the new desktop environments We saw continued fragmentation user bases were fragmenting further than they ever were in the past I mean this wasn't like the old days where there was a handful of distributions that were essentially the same They were just packaged differently This was now a time when the distributions were really going their own way a bunch who was really starting to break off and their own Display server their own desktop environment. They hadn't yet gotten to their own packaging But they were obviously going that way and it was problems all over the place and it was just Bad yeah, there's a good shot There we go That's a moustache see I got my hand on my hip there. I was posing cool The Ubuntu Software Center does anyone here besides me trying to sell things through the Ubuntu Software Center Did you did did you make a ton of money? You know you pause like that. That means no You in the back there fellow who I've never seen before did you make a ton of money and the Ubuntu Software Center? Yeah No, he didn't everyone around you was shaking their head. No, you really didn't so I This was back in my I'm a software developer or pretending to be days and I made a really stupid little game called Linux Tycoon and For whatever reason people actually liked it, and I'm not sure why but it sold well on my website and elsewhere And on the Ubuntu Software Center. It was the number 10 best-selling item. It sold 23 copies so That worked out well Also, all of these are Linux mobile platforms that between the previous year of me ranting and this year died All of them died now during this year a bunch of the canonical people were like hey Let's make a mobile so mobile system. So Ubuntu touch makes a first appearance The KDE folks were like hey, let's get into this too with plasma med ties in was it was a glimmer in someone's eye There was possibilities, but we were just littered with the corpses of mobile Linux platforms just Everywhere it was depressing as hell 2014 around this time I started swearing a lot more But seriously, how many people are using a Linux distribution that still is using Xorg? Haha, he has done mere oh No, no mere is mere not shipping and working great right now. Oh, that's weird. I did not predict that How about so how about Wayland fedora people put your hands up? Okay, fedora people. This is the one and only time in human history that you get to gloat Enjoy They shipped something this is rad This is very rad. I mean we've all been pinning our hopes to having a new display server, right? Well them shipping it and being our guinea pigs is really gonna pay off a lot for the rest of us Especially the Ubuntu people when mere doesn't work out This slide in 2014 was very apt three years later. I declare it more so This slide is directed entirely a canonical for the not invented here syndrome. I love you guys I really do raise your hand if you work for canonical or we're gonna bunch again. Just because I want to look at you raise your hands Not cheapish Here's the thing Of a lot of a lot of friends at canonical a lot of friends in the Ubuntu community you guys do amazing work However, the not invented here shit needs to stop Unity that's one thing Me or it's feeling like you're pushing it No, no, really you're getting snappy on me I'm not buying it anymore There's there comes a point where working with others is probably a good thing I'm gonna look at one person in a second And I would like everyone else to raise your hand if you would agree with this statement Communities are a good thing John O'Bacon King of community says yes Communities are people working together. I think that's an okay way to describe it They're hanging out together. They're working on each other's projects Not invented here stuff needs to go away In fact, I would propose that we stop using the phrase NIH or not invented here and just call it Canonically there's more to come But I want to take a second and talk about what we've been thinking about so far year after year Month after month. It's been mostly the same issues however Most of those problems have gone away most of those pain points have gone away This is not like past years of Linux sucks where I'm gonna tell you all the crappy things and then do a bait-and-switch and say But they're really great Not gonna do that because those crappy things that I talked about still crappy Totally still crappy Xorg is still old package management still totally a problem But it appears that at least in some areas we've kind of started learning our lessons We've started learning from history and that's kind of encouraging. It's nice to see People who used to do boot systems, but tinkered with Linux are now staying on Linux I can now do all 100% of my work and my play on Linux computers 100% there is never a time that I have to boot into another system ever that wasn't always the case and that's kind of amazing With that in mind a couple days ago, I thought I Would put out a little tweet and ask people to tell me the horror stories on Linux And I got some pretty fun ones back and I thought I'd show them so I asked them to tweet it with that hashtag and I'll share them, but I wanted to first share my favorite headline from the last year on the Linux side of things Did does anyone remember this the backspace bug Hit backspace 28 times bypass grub and boom Bob's your uncle you're in That is the easiest way. I've never heard of that. I can do a computer To everyone's benefit this affected like a dozen distros like there was no one like distro that was really really Impacted more than another really, but oh my god. It was fantastic. Like it was immediately paranoid making Everyone fixed it really quickly. I don't think any distros left it unpatched correct me if I'm wrong for more than like a day This was bad enough. They had to fix that fast. But wow, that's a bad one if if windows had had this We would never let them forget it so We need to not remind our windows friends that this happened This one this one made me giggle sir squid getting my girlfriend to do a boot having to swap the GPU and monitor Just to install because of Nvidia drivers Still a problem by nearly Brad drivers are still a problem today and that sucks so much I just think it's it's funny because I've kind of been there and Then a theme started occurring of people running a command One directory too high and recursively that they should not a run This happened a lot Chmod dash on a star one directory higher than I intended at least I had good backups and then this happened Same without the good backups Yeah, we're just reading tweets for a little bit Do you guys remember last year the CEO for red hat Jim Whitehurst a little video for this where he literally Basically did that exact same thing except with disc utility He accidentally wiped out his whole system like he he selected a system drive and it's like oh, you know root password It's like all right root password boom gone totally holds his own system the guy that runs the biggest Linux company in the world did that There's no hope for any of us This next one I didn't even know was possible Accidentally uninstalling pseudo Has anybody ever done that? You've done that that's possible to do like I looked it up. I'm like, okay You know what I think that's possible to do, but I'm not gonna try it like I just didn't want to try it Someone replied to this guy and was like, oh, that's easy to fix just do a pseudo apt install pseudo 2 a.m. Tired and Freaky, I assume that's what a f means Accidentally ran pseudo DD basically he pointed Dev know best DB one when it should have been SDC one rest in peace to be an install I Got so many of these on the various social networks of people just wiping out their drives So easily and quickly without warning. It is so terribly sad. How many people have done that? I'm just really curious That's a lot of you Stuart language formerly of canonical You've done this Yes, he has my god, oh Peter Blackwell this one made me laugh a lot my wife's a bunch of PC stop booting because of dodgy and video driver on the day Her accounts were due hashtag tears hashtag blamed So I'm trying to remember when I first started getting my wife to switch over to Linux But I had a hashtag blamed moment myself and those are not terribly fun My wife is a software developer Just the same those are not good moments, especially in the olden days back in 2009 2010 Six seven eight years ago you try and get some random version of Linux running on You know your mom's computer or something you were literally going to be in tech support hell for days It is awful. It is absolutely awful Well done with the tweets done with the tweets I just those amused me like that time All right back to the history thing so we got to learn from our past right and there's a reason that I need to stop this because This is the last Linux sucks. I can't I can't do these anymore because the reality is half of the content is Just repeats at this point. We've got a couple of flaws, but everything else is kind of working like gangbusters How many people watched this last year? Last year you'll notice I got rid of all those old slides. What did I do? I spent like an hour talking about system D and baked potatoes Because I didn't want to talk about the old stuff anymore. I didn't want to repeat that Xorg is old How boring is that? Didn't that literally since 2009 it comes a point where either our display servers are fucking working Or we just got to move on and just be done with it, right? So you got to move on at this point This Presentation all of those slides from all the past years kind of catalogs all of the things that are still not working right We need to fix all of those things but Here's the thing sometimes We need to learn from history sometimes we need to look at the things we've we've done wrong and not repeat them But sometimes we just need to say the hell with it and keep on going forward no matter what sometimes Canonical in all of the canonically wisdom just need to push forward with me and hope to God it ships in is better than Wayland, right? Maybe it will be maybe it will be and if they do I'm gonna use it if if Snappy packages are way way more useful than any other packaging and container formats on the planet I'm gonna use it are they are they and a bunch of other groups forking and and Creating their own things and acting canonically. Yes Yes, they are and I will continue to make fun of them in private But not in these presentations because there's just a point where it gets ridiculous But again, sometimes you just got to move on because it's worth moving on Before I completely wrap this up I Would like to say thank you to not just scale that Linux best Northwest the two conferences that Allowed me to come and yell about the thing which they have a conference entirely for Many many years in a row because that's kind of rad that shows a lot of guts. I know they know I'm a Linuxy guy I know they know I'm in the end. This is all gonna be pro Linuxy But just the same according to the YouTube comments not everyone knows that If you guys read the you to read the YouTube comments for some of the Linux sucks videos, they are hilarious They're absolutely fantastic. Do not respond. Don't give them don't give them troll food It but they're they're angry. They're angry bastards, and they want me to die But just the same it does take a lot of guts. Also poker Linux sponsored this a company who sells computers preloaded with Linux and has done so for years Sponsored as one of their big advertising mechanisms a thing that says their core product sucks That says something kind of critical it says that we as a community as a Target demographic and as a as a movement in a project are comfortable enough and confident enough in what we've built That we can make fun of ourselves that we can criticize ourselves Openly with some ridiculous guy with horrible hairdos on stage, and that's kind of cool That's cool that a company would not just look at that, but they'd say you know what yeah We want to help make that happen. So anyway poker Linux. I First encountered them just as a side note the year I did my first Linux sucks presentation They had a booth at Linux Fest Northwest and they were sitting there with like a 1u server or something like that And I didn't really know about them before But so it kind of all ties together kind of all goes back to the beginning anyway big Thanks to poker Linux for doing that. Thank you to scale. This is the very last ever Linux sucks I love you guys Now stay around there's gonna be more stuff to follow, but we're all done. We're good When y'all go There he is come on up come on up Do I have hangouts on here? I don't have hangouts on here. I don't you use hangouts anymore I'll just read it. It'll be rad. Is it a good picture? Well, let me first because I had actually a So there are a few good ones that I actually really like for example, I think there's an You got a pick one man somebody well, okay, you've got a pick one unless you're gonna get away like 20 of these Okay, can I give at least an honorable mention you can do an honorable mention? All right This would be the honorable mention I came for a link I will mention to Michael Oz Lee I came for Linux got a retrospective on Brian Lenduk's hair. Ooh with the nice picture. I don't know if you can see that But with I've got a better one of that. You got a yeah. Yeah, nice the winner. All right the winner You got that picture The way he's that picture too. Oh, yes And then someone took that picture with the American flag behind me and did let's make Linux great again Carlos Serrano If everyone could follow Carlos on Twitter and take that picture and make like a desktop wallpaper version of it That would be choice Carlos. Don't find the next next cloud people at the booth tomorrow Five five. Thank you, man. Thank you Yeah, you can take your box back All right now We've got something kind of cool Did you launch Mike? Come on up. We disagree with it. We don't really think Linux sucks And we've got some other people up here to kind of tell a different side of the story. All right So we got a couple of people who's coming up first So first up we've got some folks from kids on computers that have been doing some awesome some awesome work With helping making technology accessible to to folks in under underprivileged areas and we'll get we'll get these folks up here in just a Second while we do a break here If we do have Adam Holt and Robin Row in the room if you could meet me back by the AV station in just a second That doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. I don't see much movement. All right So basically here what we're gonna do is yeah a couple of different people are coming up to talk about some of the awesome stuff Some of the really awesome stuff from free software and Linux Also, this slide is adorable That is cute as a button Nice job I'm gonna go now. So with that I leave you with story Peters omni country and Thomas Peters as well and Let's see how Linux is awesome Good evening Kids on computers. What is kids on computers? What is kids on computers kids on computers is a nonprofit? And it's all run by volunteers And we also when we travel it's an international group that we put computers in schools Where technology is needed where they do not have technology? So a lot of the kids is the first time they see a computer It's the first time they've been on a mouse and we do this International now all of the people that work for kids on computers is volunteer No one has paid this website right there that you're seeing that's kids on computers Someone out here in the audience built it for us and we probably have 20 active Volunteers and we have all kinds of volunteers that are always doing work for us Okay, I'm gonna follow you through one student at one of our schools that you have an idea of what we do No, not that one This is Jose lives in Oaxaca, Mexico and his favorite he doesn't like school too much his favorite subject is is Football he just loves football and the football usually if you see him out there I'm made out of rags and then you tie a bunch of string around it and then you put some tape on it And that's our football and when we introduced computers into this school Football took a second place now his favorite subject for the years on was computers And he'd be reasoning was he got two hours a week on the computers and shared it with other kids Okay What's this one here? This is a typical road that we've where we put computers in where the labs are and Jose lives in one of these streets down the road Comes from a family and now we have five six two brothers and sisters And Jose probably will only go to fifth or sixth grade and all of his Friends and neighbors in the neighborhood probably fifth or sixth grade is the end now Why is fifth or sixth grade the end his parents cannot afford to pay a bus fare for him to go to junior high? Which is probably in another town and also if he's a girl or a boy His mother might be working someplace washing dishes doing lawn or anything else And she needs him at home to watch these younger brothers and sisters. So most of these kids Fifth or sixth grade is the end for them Usually there's about 30 students in a class Jose is one of the 30 students in the class Yeah, I lost my thunder shot You can see that this is one of the classrooms where we have volunteers where we put computers in Now I was watching Jose. I was in the lab one day and I was watching him play text math Where they shoot the number out two plus two is four or he was doing higher math And then the next group was coming in and the teachers having trouble trying to get them out And I said to Jose. I says you really love math. Don't you and he says no, I don't like it at all I says, well, what do you play? He says I love to play And so the kids there a lot of them look at computers as a game And they'll compete with one another whatever they're doing if it's a game and they fall in love with it There's a teacher working with volunteer Okay, now here's a classroom a typical classroom. You can see some of our volunteers in here and he's here standing there He's from Oaxaca There's a student there and I asked him how many of these students we're going to probably go on to the university To make it on it says maybe one If they're lucky Now we have labs in India. We have labs in Nepal. We have labs in Argentina And so a lot of our students 5th or 6th grade is going to be there and then it's because One of the things that you people are doing we have Linux on running on it. They have open source software on it We have things and this is their number one class or favorite class. I'll leave this to Ronald. Thank you So that's my dad Thomas Peters So he talked to you a little bit about what the life is like for these kids and what the kids that were who the kids are That were helping I wanted to talk to you a little bit about the communities I'm because often it's not us going down there with computers and helping out the community It's really the community getting involved as well So in all the schools we go to one of our requirements is they have to I'm just going to give you some examples of how Community gets involved one of our requirements is they have to have a room that has you know It's completely can be locked that the door can lock that the the windows have bars or otherwise inaccessible And so often these schools have to build the room before we come down So right now we have a school in Mexico that's actually building the room I should have shown you I had pictures earlier with like concrete walls They still haven't put the floor the roof on in this case is one of our first schools I'm the parents raised the money and his parents have very little money The parents raised the money and the parents came in and built the room for the computer lab And while they were at it They built a library and they built a gym room and these kids don't just need computers as my son pointed out We probably have more books at our house than he saw in the library when they opened them But it's really cool that that parents got involved and opened up multiple rooms and help the kids out The other thing that we do is we often end up especially if we're trying to add networking or any kind of internet access We end up doing some really hokey weird things In this case, they were actually running ethernet cable from the town hall over the street And they're all hanging out on the roof with no sides or anything. I didn't let my kids up there And they're running it over the street to the school so that they'll have internet access in the school It's very slow. I was running over some kind of tow from line But there was you know, they all got involved to help us figure it out so that the school computers could also have internet In another case a local internet cafe owner I'm she showed up and she showed up with a whole bunch of ethernet cable and the little crimpers I don't know what they're called and helped us wire all the computers together in the lab And she was just a little she didn't have kids and I don't know if she had kids in the school But she she showed up with donated ethernet cable and helped us string it So the communities are super involved and I really welcome us and really try to help out This is often how we ride from one town to another or for one school to another I Wasn't quite sure I should show my partner this picture of our kids riding around in the back of a pickup truck On some pretty crazy windy roads But I didn't have a picture of it But at one point we got lost we couldn't figure out where the school was so I stopped and I asked and someone picked Us up and let us ride in the back of his pickup truck and I show up at the school and dad said why are you riding in the cop car? And it turns out it was the the cheap police of the town's pickup truck and we had bummed a ride with the cop Also, whether they're super hospitable they take care of us any way they can We've never gone to school where they didn't feed us really awesome food I'm awesome by my standards meant it moving awesome by my son's standards of awesome food every day They cook it for us. They're on site We eat we eat with the kids And I'm showing this just because I think when you bring friend up into our software places and you talk about what's possible I'm always tell them that we're not trying to give them things What we're trying to do is bring their kids online so that their kids can then share with our kids what they learn So we're trying to create a bigger community And then in most cases they usually celebrate it almost always in Mexico almost always We're in a bunch of countries, but Mexico almost always includes dancing and music And in this case we actually moved out into the street And not only all the kids dance but all the teachers dance if you're a teacher beware in Mexico You're required to dance in full dress and in this case the principal actually got I'm like the newspapers the The the radio stations there. He got the superintendent of schools And what he accomplished is he had had all of his parents agree to pay the computer teacher salary I mean by getting all of those people there and having a big deal I mean they gave us pineapples and he actually got the school system to pay his computer teacher salary And eight years later. She's still at that school Thanks, that was stormy Peters and so talking about like communities and I'm any cut three And I'm going to talk about how we actually do the setup and what we do so we have Right now. We're in six countries looking at a seventh and we have 12 labs in Mexico that's kind of like our stronghold and this is kind of a map of where we are right now and One of the first things that happens is like we take donated equipment from people like you and me like here We're done with our computers after you know, two or three years, and they're still perfectly good Especially if you put Linux on it That's one of the things that is awesome about Linux is that you know wet whereas windows or macOS require like heavy hardware Linux runs on a lot of you know lower and Lower-end hardware relatively easily that you see we have some Macs, but we're packing up So what we do is like a lot of our a lot of our volunteers who are going down will take take the equipment in their luggage So instead of instead of trying to go through customs with big boxes where we've actually gotten stuck before We spent many hours trying to get out of customs We'll actually pack it into our suitcases and get the equipment down there and Then once we're there we'll unpack it in the hotel room and then the next day we'll all pile up in a big van or a big car and Put all the boxes inside the car and we'll put ourselves in the car and we'll head on to the school Where we'll unpack this is the first lab that we ever set up so this is those two today Marzo and You'll see they're still using the CRT computers and you'll be surprised We're slowly upgrading them, but a lot of these old computers still work And so she won't let us take them like they don't work. So we should leave them and give her more It's like we need more but the ones that work we should keep yep So and so she is the teacher that Thomas was referring to and so we'll unpack and then Like hopefully if we brought the computers donated the we'll have had time to do the software install on there If it's refurbished equipment that we got through Or new equipment that we got through grant money will do the software install in in the lab So what software do we use so we've gone through several iterations of software and what we're using right now is uber mix And we're also using so we use like a basic alas uber mix. We also use raspy and we've started installing raspberry pile apps Those are a lot. It's a lot easier to get raspberry pies down down into Mexico I took a whole suitcase of 15 pies along with peripherals in a big suitcase and I got the green light at customs So I didn't get checked And then we'll put like educational games, right? So like the tux suite she can pre their scratch on there There's just a lot of awesome apps that the kids can utilize and it's all on good new Linux and The other thing that we try to do is most of the places we go as stormy mentioned don't have internet, right? So oh the other thing I didn't want to mention, you know Brian talked about the hardware difficulties With you know with Linux we live that right so we've we've had some donated equipment. That's old and Like you know just and we've worked like there are people that we have volunteers who really love debugging old hardware and Remember like the first trip I went on we spent many hours trying to get edu bun to onto old hardware I don't want to relive that But so in addition to the awesome apps that we put on there We also work with a couple of partner organizations internet in a box and world possible Which provides Rachel to put offline content because most of our schools are not able to have internet But they'll say they have internet, but when we get there we realize it's either really slow Or it's just not usable and we want them to have access to Wikipedia We want them to have access to the you know spend hours like reading articles like we do Watching videos like we do so we tried to set up a server in each room as well, right? So we'll have offline Khan Academy videos offline Wikipedia Offline OSM like a light version of that so as much content as we can get into a room And we'll set up a local server in each classroom and make that accessible to all the what we call the client computers So this is our story right so this is kids on computers This is our passion and kids on computers actually started at scale like three people came up with the idea at scale Implemented it and we've been we're 501 see three that we are eight years old now We're going strong So I encourage you to find your passion like find your passion and make it happen We have 20 labs across six countries and it's a bunch of volunteers just doing what they love to do So figure out what you want to do and make it happen. Thank you We started early so we probably have time for a question or two if anyone has a question Yeah Good you can talk to any of us here. We have a booth in the main expo hall I'm so that would be the first easiest way but kids on computers that word also has contact info Thank you Yes, absolutely. That's a great question. Repeat the question. So the question is He saw that we have internet a box in English is it provided in the local language of the countries we're in So, yes, so we do use localized content for the country So for Mexico, we use Spanish whatever Spanish content is available for Morocco. We use French and Arabic. So yeah Yes, the question is do volunteers need to speak Spanish. No, absolutely not We have a lot of we have volunteers who speak Spanish in English for our Mexico trips We really need is more computer skills. So that'd be helpful Many of the countries the Spanish isn't spoken like we go to India in Nepal Morocco, okay So that's that's the question was about system management and how do we manage upgrades? And that's a great question. So that's something that we what we try to do is for each lab or each area that we're in and in Mexico we have two concentrations one in Oaxaca City and one in Oaxacan We try to ensure there's local technical help to do any maintenance work that needs to be done So if like something stops working on a computer that we try to have a contact That's local that the schools can reach out to and to most of the upgrades happen on our annual trip So kids on computers will try to go to we go to Mexico every year sometimes even more often this year we're going twice and We try to keep in touch with the other the other country labs as well So the maintenance is the upgrades are mostly done by us. We try to have local help for maintenance Anybody had ideas for improving that that's probably one of the hardest things One of the things we didn't point out is the teachers are also learning how to use these computers So that picture that my dad showed of the two teachers on it. They had never used a mouse before that day So we're leaving people in charge of these computer labs that are also learning Yes So the question was about endless is that right Yeah, so we actually we just heard about endless OS a little bit and I haven't actually played around with it a lot but my understanding is that they're more in the earlier stages and Like leaving it leaving the devices in I Think we would want to test it more and make sure that it's it's viable Like for people who don't really have a good understanding of technology before we leave the equipment down there So we do iterate so we started out using at Ubuntu at this point We're using a remix like we we iterate as technology changes Our constraints are not ones that most people in the Western world have to deal with We have you know very limited memory very old hardware. So we're always looking for what's the best solution right now? So so have we considered using a cloud with a thin client This is like the constant debate that we have whether we should be using clients or server clients So we've tried both Usually a single point of failure hurts us We had an LTSP setup in one of our classrooms where we had three clients and assert like three clients attached to a server and Once like something happened to the server. It was like the teacher wouldn't know how to get so that's a challenge is a challenge I think we've got one more question back here. Okay, I'm not just a question, but me and Noritzi are from endless So let's talk Yes, let's talk. Okay There's a question over here You just shout it out. We'll try to repeat it. Is there anything that? We could do to make your lives or the lives of people at these schools better as Linux developers or software developers So I think continuing to support low-end hardware and old machines Is is critical like the other operating systems seem to have just given up on that? So I think the fact that Linux still runs on all their hardware is what enables us to do this for for schools Yes Well, so right now our minimum is one gigabyte of RAM and then we like to have at least 20 gigabyte hard drive So it's pretty minimal. We used to have only require 512, but we recently upped it to one gig Yeah, and if you guys so we do have a booth So if you have old hardware that you want your local and you have old hardware at home that you want to bring by If it's functional if it works we accept laptops will accept laptops at the booth one last question Minimum processor minimum process one gigabyte of RAM So we don't we don't have the time people have that much RAM We don't set a women on the processor. Oh on the type of sorry. Yeah, the question. Okay. I'm interested Yeah Something I'd like to add I gave a talk like similar to this once in Mexico And I encourage people to go out and do it themselves And we found out later There were students in the group that got together themselves found computers and built a lab for their own town So they would have a community and all of you have that possibility It isn't hard if you work like we have system 76 down here. They've donated us computers You can a group you can from the bag to the local businesses and that you can come up and find 30 computers and you can get Linux on it open source software on it and build your own in the town you're from and it might be whatever it is We inspired another question That'd be great. We'd yeah, so you're talking we could get Machines that companies and schools aren't using anymore and we did get a whole set of laptops from a I think it was a Los Angeles High School, it's Calabasas. Yeah, so near Los Angeles area high school And so we'd love to talk to you if you have connections with local schools Yeah, so come by and talk to us So I think that we've got some amazing ideas and audience here I'm glad to see that there's so much excitement about helping to sort of distribute What might be our maybe our trash to you know, turning that into gems for you know for folks and in other areas So first, thank you very much to the kids on computers team both for the work that they do and for the session today So up next we have we have Robin Roe and he's going to be talking about some ways that he's using open source Somewhere a little bit closer to home here and into the scale community And then one more with the internet in the box folks just after that So I know folks are running at the door. We're actually way ahead of schedule So hopefully you'll stick with us for a little bit before you run off to dinner About 15 minutes 10 minutes Awesome, so thank you. This is a Robin Roe let him introduce himself. Let's see It says you on a V folks. Can we get the levels? Tested one to test it. Oh All right, so I work for a media tech company called gosh TV that Most of you have never heard of that. That's not a problem In my day job, I do mainly innovation to order So people want me to to create stuff for them that I go build it so The way I started the homeless is is kind of unusual everything my life happens through serendipity So I founded a 5,000 member heart industry association And one of the members I mentioned that he needed a laptop I said, well, hey, I've got a little laptop in my closet I mean need to take it to the recycling center, but I never make it. I could give you my old laptop He's like, oh, that'll be so cool. I'd appreciate that. So you have the laptop and what I didn't know at the time is that he was homeless and Without having a laptop or some kind of computer access. It's extremely difficult to get a job It's extremely difficult to get out of a homeless situation if you don't have a computer So thanks to that computer He was able to to better his situation and later told me later revealed to me what what he was going through at the time he didn't tell me at the time and So I put out a note to the members of my group when I said, hey, you know, I'm not gonna tell you who this was But you know, here's the story and if anybody else has old laptops in their closet They can give them to me and I will wipe them and put Olympics on them And I will find other people in the community that are in the same situation as our unnamed friend So people gave me dozens of laptops and I was giving away a laptop above for for years And this is not a 501c3. This is not I'm not the director of some social organization This is just I wanted to help people but I still want to keep my day job My day job is really cool. I didn't want to become the director of some huge nonprofit organization So this one on for some time. It actually continues to go on to some degree But I was in a parking lot at a at a vines Recently and I stopped and talked to so many homeless there as I often do And I said, how's it going? He said, well, you know, I live under the bridge over there You know next to the highway and you know, I make it my way And I said, well, you know what would really help you And so, you know, a lot of people are driving by here I think that have like stuff that they that would help us There's a whole community of people that are living under the bridge. I'm just one person and if they just knew they could like give us the old laptop or their old phone and You know, cookware, bedding You know just basic things that we need that other people are throwing away and taking to recycling or donation center And I said, oh, that's that's very interesting And so I thought about it was like what if there was like an uber app where if I had stuff to give away I like all that stuff in my closet that is still sitting there in my closet because I still let me into the recycling center What if I could like say, okay? I've got an old phone, an old laptop, some old clothing And I think and I could punch that in like like I would if I was you know calling uber and on the other end They were the homeless that they were geolocated and you can say well, I need an old laptop I need an old phone. I need some clothing and they Match me up just like like uber and sell, you know, that's that bridge I drive under that to work every day I could just stop you know put the stuff in my car and hit it out the window and the person is like right there I don't you know, it's a drive-through. You know, I don't even you know, I don't even have to do anything I don't have to go to some other place You know, if I'm giving them an old phone if I recycle that it's gonna be crushed Be the value of the three dollars of the metal in the phone But my phone is still perfectly good. I could give that phone to someone who actually needs it and so You know, that's the effort that I went to right now You know, I have a software development company. So I'm not asking people to join me as developers or anything like that This is very different You know all I've come for today and do you have any do we have any handbikes in the audience? Did anybody anticipate having a handbrake? There's one back there. So To me this is all about you know using open source at the level of doing a personal social good and so Yeah, if you have comments or questions about this this app is not out yet, but I've got developers At my company that are that are paid developers to develop this for me. So that's not the issue But me what is an issue is is this the best way to do this? How do people feel about open source in in this space? Does anyone want to ask a question or comment? pick anyone Just you know Okay, so the question is how do you deal with safety and There's two things here What is the homeless are actually quite safe relative to other people that there's There's a lot of crime Amongst each other in the homeless community unfortunately because these people some of them have issues But there's not a great record of them attacking people at random who are helping them So that's kind of not a real concern But on the other hand, I want people to be safe. He shouldn't take my word for it You should do what you feel is safe in my particular case I'm in the in the parking lot at vans, you know If I if I can't safely enter the grocery store Then I've got a problem whether I'm helping the homeless or not because I'm walking past that guy Walking into the grocery store, you know, I don't have to go to the bridge I could just say well, you know, I'll drop it at the vans You know or wherever they are there that the homeless are actually amongst us much closer than we all think that was what I learned From, you know, my friend that I didn't realize was homeless that I was the first first the first homeless person I was helping I had no idea he was homeless And so if you make it know that you will help there are people all around you who will come forward and say well My brother is homeless You know, so, you know, it doesn't have to be that you stop under the bridge and talk to the encampment You can still help so we'll do two more questions here and then we've got The Yeah, one question I have is what mechanisms we have in order to prevent abuse because Not all the times especially as you gave the example there There was somebody close to you who didn't you didn't know it was homeless So maybe they don't look homeless. They don't you know, they don't have the appearance But they did they did look homeless, right? but but the thing is like if you post this app and you have a An iPhone 2 or you know some device that's still pretty good Maybe has some dollar value on it and you know people want to take advantage of that to go get that phone So the question is what if someone takes advantage of me giving away something that I know longer weren't for free so First off, it's like well if they're that desperate that they want my old free phone that I was gonna throw throw away anyway Power to them. They're having a tough life. You know, there's something You know, this is like people that are worried about people stealing food stamps If if you're down to the point that you're stealing food stamps There's something so wrong in your life that that is a much bigger problem then you know the peanuts that are that we're talking about here and You know, there will be abuse there will be all kinds of problems and I'll tell you why a Lot of people that are in this community have PTSD that they have Post-traumatic stress disorder like a huge percentage of veterans a surprising number of the homeless are actually veterans and The reason that they're homeless is that I could is that part of their condition of PTSD is that they have anxiety That they cannot handle stress. They don't have good impulse control and by impulse control I don't mean that they're gonna jump out of the bushes and attack you I mean if you give them a hundred dollars, they will spend all of it They will not put it in the bank and so You know, these people have a lot of issues and a lot of struggles and it is very frustrating to help them When I lived in Chicago There was a homeless person who lived on the quarter of my street that if you gave her a quarter that was fine but if you gave her a dollar she would turn into little pieces and You know, you can't think that way You have to help people to the ability that that you can help them And that's why I want to talk to everyone today about being personally helpful Because when it's a big government program, and it's billions of dollars, there's all kinds of room for abuse You know, some company can come in and pull some scam, but if I'm just giving my old iPhone You know, you know, what is the scam there? You know, how much can somebody get away with? So, you know by thinking local and thinking small I think we can we can solve a lot of these problems that plague these big picture You know let's give a billion dollars and solve poverty today type programs that always seem to have something go wrong with them Who else? I have a question. What's I'm up front right here. Sorry. Thank you. What's it? What's the mechanism for? Identifying a place of need like with your app for instance. Good question. So how does the app actually work? So I've answered that this thing we're still building it It's called by nothing just so you know, you know assuming that that it's not another Canonical something that we're building here that never comes out, but assuming that the thing comes out The way that this works is that you specify whether you're a person with something to give or somebody needs help If it's to give they're like six buttons on it that are like the basic things that you could give like an old phone An old laptop clothing and you just picked those like a like a menu and It knows where you are because it's on your phone. So that part is good It goes out and the Homeless the most of the homeless don't have phones, but typically in one of these communities under the bridge Only at least one person who has a phone and so that person, you know, that phone knows where they are and You know, if they don't want to say that they live under the bridge because a lot of the homeless are actually hidden homeless But they they don't you don't know that they're living under the bridge They don't want to tell you that they're living under the bridge. They don't want to look homeless They don't want to be singled out. So, you know, that person might say that they're under the bridge, but They don't want to say that so they'll say why with the parking lot at Voods, which is actually where they are during a lot of the day So, you know, when they're at the Voods, then there's like not a panic about You know where to drop things off like we talked about earlier so I can say yeah, I need something there at the Voods And because it's got geolocate, you know, it'll find them and even you know, it could be that that person already has a phone You're like, oh, well, this is somebody trying to scam the system. They've already got a phone Why are they asking for a second phone? Well, that second phone is for the other person that lives under the bridge That doesn't want to admit that they're part of the system, you know It doesn't want to be tracked and they have got good reason to not want to be tracked because The homeless in this country are essentially the same as refugees elsewhere. You know, there's there's huge prejudice against them They're they're hugely disadvantaged. They're in physical danger almost every day If they didn't have PTSD before Then there's a really good chance that they'll have PTSD after a couple weeks of being homeless because it's super stressful and super dangerous so You know, we just have to help people the best we can And you know, if we all help a little bit, I think we can do a tremendous amount of good You know, don't put yourself in danger. Don't do anything that doesn't feel right in your gut But at the same time just understand that these are people that are really struggling You know, if if you give them money and they go on a bender, you know, it's nothing personal it's that You know, they can't help themselves because they've got PTSD and you know, don't punish people for being sick You know, just understand that these are not perfect people and that's why we need to really help them You know with a special needs kid, you wouldn't say oh, I'm not gonna help that kid because you know, he's got a problem You'd say hey, I've really got to help this person because they've got a problem I don't know. So I think I think what's I'm sure Robin will make himself available here afterwards to chat with folks and answer questions Yep, I want to make sure that we get you all off to dinner in a timely fashion But also so I'm gonna call up the internet a box folks here to get set up with their AV In the meantime, I just wanted to call out a few things happening at scale this week that of course will be interesting I think will be interesting to you all We have the we do have an education track that runs on on Sunday every year and this is for helping, you know Where we're helping Teachers and educators learn about how they can use more open source in the classroom something that falls very well into some Of the themes that we've heard here Also, if you've got kids that are interested in open source technology stem in general Saturday all day We have two sets of we have two rooms running for for our younger attendees. Sorry. I'll get on stage here The first is we have the next generation track, which will be happening again all day Sunday 10 10 to 6 With presentations from younger members of our community about how they're using open source Next door to that in room 211 the fabulous kids on computers folks have been organizing a Sort of a hands-on activity area for for younger attendees that may want to get their hands on with anything from from robotics to installing Linux to other Other interesting activities, so I'm sure Avni and stormy and other folks here will be happy to answer some questions for you afterwards And with that I'm gonna let Adam Holt from internet in the box get going here And I think we need to plug in test the the video the audio. Yes, sorry you want this guy I Might work as well give it a shot. Yeah, there we go. Try Maybe folks We could crank it up. Sorry folks just a second HDMI on the bottom. That's not it. We want out the sound here. Okay. I don't know maybe skip the video I'm sorry Adam. Okay. All right excellent video on Actually Was that cancel excellent video later on Offline internet in Cuba. So what on earth is the offline internet a good question So we'll cover these three countries real quick where wikipedia is In high demand in very different ways So first Those three countries each have 11 million people they're right off of our shores Almost California's population and if you go from left to right Not necessarily politically, but yes that way too Their needs are entirely different so we'll just walk through really quickly Wikipedia is now Essentially welcomed by the Cuban government because it's not seen as a US property So it's very exciting and this is this 10 minutes is essentially an invitation For people to bring wikipedia to Cuba and some suggestions for how to do it And then I can talk quickly about Haiti where I briefly lived After the earthquake for a year. So this is how we got involved in all three countries So several people in the audience were in this particular classroom this training session We came out of the one laptop per child the world it led to Internet in a box servers because internet's too pricey or just too ridiculously Infeasible some people preparing laptops for Cuba. Sorry. No, this is for Haiti just in the last few weeks lots of fun getting ready just as we heard in the the prior talks and Well, this is out of context. It's Cambodia But this is what we do in Haiti and similar places every day involving people at every level of these implementations But let's take a step back this world has some rough issues at the moment I have friends in Haiti who this week have told me they want to get the hell out And the way they want to get out is to go to Brazil and then they face further problems So this has been a common path in the last two years how people Cross the continent twice to get into the US and other places So how does this all relate? Well, everything's built in China. This is a famous photo of Shanghai over 1990 to 2010 What's gonna happen to Cuba as we bring various digital stuff? So we see these jokes recently why are we trusted to come help Cuba, right? So this is a valid question But the whole world is facing if I love sandwich boards these questions, you know is Wi-Fi really what Cuba needs There's some real questions there So what is happening in Cuba? This is a beautiful. I'm sorry. I can't read it, but it's a beautiful cartoon showing Ford essentially You know three or four different kinds of offline internet that are working today in Cuba Very practical place where people fix big lighters and preserve every piece of the big lighter. So The famous one is el paquete. I can't pronounce it But second from the bottom where which is an amazing bootleg network of Hollywood movies that flows across Cuba You can read many articles about it online. It's extremely sophisticated Underground but not really underground network So similar to internet in a box and a lot of these ideas it's offline But is it really offline because you can watch shows 48 hours after they appear in the US in Cuba? So it's a very interesting questions around what is offline? And there's other if you have time to to dig into this There's some other amazing work going on in Cuba because it's offline much like BBS is in the 80s and there's interesting and degrees of self-censorship which Somewhat even argue is a good thing. They're not filled with porn for example You know we can debate that but there's a lot of strong civic Social networks a real social networks being built in Cuba, which is what the video is all about There's a lot of innovation happening in Cuba because it's offline ironically and Probably many other countries could learn from that this was a I think a Serbian analysis of the L paquete network and the precise content that they've chosen in Their terabyte USB drives that they move around the country typically two dollars on Monday and one dollar on Tuesday As these drives propagate around Cuba This is just a fun analysis. You can grab this online. I think it's labs dot RS or something like that Showing what's exactly in that particular sample from July of 2016 So we all know this but maybe to review. Why is Wikipedia the most popular? Property the hottest thing going in so many of these schools and medical clinics in the Dominican Republic and maybe this is obvious but I think it's good to think back about the the power of Wikipedia. The it's not really an insurrectionist tool but maybe you know in 2004 China considered it as such, right? Plenty of controversies along the way as you can see there But what is what is so compelling about Wikipedia above everything else open-street map, etc. Is popular too? Well English is hard to escape, right? Japanese not so popular, but it's number two apparently and Spanish of course We have trouble there's no Haitian Creole Wikipedia to speak of there's some exciting work in New York City and other places to Spark that interest in Haitian Creole Wikipedia, but they default to French because the quality is so lousy So this is how we do it and this is what the at least the internet in a box team would encourage you to build this You can build this for 50 to 150 dollars depending on how you set up a rig like that We jokingly call it internet in a purse because you don't need Electricity you don't need the mains you don't need a grid you have a Knowledge hotspot in your purse and a teacher can handle all that responsibility on her own and If Reno has his way and we're gonna get this down to $25 instead of a hundred with a new $10 What is it RPI zero including Wi-Fi? Which will be very interesting if if you could have $25 wikipedia is in everybody's pocket So what do people do other than wikipedia wikipedia? I think is a center stage you if you if you walk around Cuba if you Really start talking to people in Cuba It's a drug hits like cocaine for them They there's nothing they want more than access to wikipedia and that's amazing that it's an intellectual culture And it's just something that can happen immediately in the next couple of years before cell phone networks Are bound to cover Cuba in the next two to five years? So here's what a lot of schools ask us for is this beautiful package of Khan Academy Which is currently changing from K light to Calibri. There's just a nice graphic summarizing You know the dream what what is schools? What do parents really want here and they articulated this much better than us So if you know them at UC San Diego, that's that's a great summary of the overall dream This is another friend ally of ours library box also known as pirate box sort of and Yeah, great hand-drawn summary What is this offline internet really? It could be federated it could be that these offline servers talk to one another we're not there yet But maybe it's not that far away and then to think a little bit about this complicated world It wasn't that long ago where You know punishment went in the other direction and so a few more silly jokes here to wrap up before we go to questions These are questions. We're asked all the time, you know We're bringing progress, but are we really right? So to look at the very dark side, right? And it's a very negative time right But let's not end on a negative note where we define our era based on all of our problems what what is the what is the opportunity in Cuba Haiti and also the DR and I think the one laptop per child is Despite all its faults a great summary of the opportunity going forward and The way that many thousands of unpaid volunteers came together Made hodgepodge's of curriculum for one country or another, you know fixed firmware fixed every level of the stack So I'll just close with this slide showing how I believe in a new kind of one laptop per child is possible out of Particularly Cuba and Haiti countries that have a deep conviction in education and I have not yet become jaded by You know a post factual era. We'll just we'll just call it that And of course these communities are utterly messy and disgusting There's a natural life cycle and you know Contribution communities, but we have one going in the in the kids on computers internet in a box space and If anyone has particular questions about Cuba DR or Haiti maybe now's the time because they're they're very very different and Very interesting each. Thank you There we go, so we can take one or two questions, and then we'll we'll call it a night and Reconvene tomorrow morning with all the awesome scale content. So Everybody's really excited for dinner. It seems One question in the back there Why you Little bit closer, and then I'll come back your way So I've never been to Haiti, but I've seen the documentary Oh There's a problem with brain drain that that everyone who can't leave Haiti is leaving Haiti How do you deal with that or does that just not affect you? That's that's probably the the deepest question that has no answer, but Of course the numbers show that people are going back to Mexico More than they're coming from Mexico to the US and we see very similar stuff in Haiti There's a massive investment in Haiti from Haitian Americans, especially So it is true. It is the one could argue. It's the deepest threat of a lot of developing countries But it's very different world than the last 1500 years, so I don't know I mean And I I hope that Wikipedia especially becomes an international a proud international object It is rather Eurocentric in a lot of ways Which probably feeds into that larger trend But we are seeing an obsessive obsessive desire for Wikipedia in almost all of these countries, so hopefully can be part of reversing that So I'll admit up front my question is silly. It doesn't just sound silly. It is silly, but I mean it It comes from a sincere like human interest is You said that everybody wants Wikipedia and it's like crack and I am aware that Cubans have a high education level, so I Feel that that's an accurate thing, you know But I'm wondering if in addition to just like a purely intellectual interest. Have you observed any Funny cultural games like I'm thinking of the one we do where if you go to Wikipedia And you just follow the first link on any Wikipedia everything converges to philosophy Like do they do those things? so I'll give a The wrong answer, but a related answer A friend was in Cuba essentially two weeks ago and her cab driver is a lawyer her was a lawyer and he said Wikipedia is my favorite thing on the face of the earth. I cannot wait for the 2017 edition to come out So he's not clicking the links as you described He sincerely thought that this thing was released every year I think he really believed that and it is only access to international trade law that he wants to get involved with So forgive him Cool, so I think on that note. We're probably in a wrap, but again Adam like the rest of our speakers will be available Here to chat. He's also got another presentation Sunday at 5 p.m. Sunday at 5 p.m. technical description of this this work. Yes So if you're we hope you'll stay around and join him for that Again, we're we're back in in this room for Ubu Khan in the morning We've got a bunch of other sessions dev ops days next door lots of other great things going on this weekend Please download the guidebook app if you want the latest and greatest schedule for scale things do change As you know speakers come and go so You know thanks again for staying sticking with us. 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