 River's PDP accuses former Minister of Transportation Rotimieh M.H.U. of working for the People's Democratic Party presidential candidate at Tikua Buboka. And ADC candidate Dumebika Chikou kicks over endorsement of Pital B. by party stalwarts, says criminals sold the party. This is Plus Politics. I'm Mary Anacorn. The People's Democratic Party campaign council in River's State has alleged that a former Minister of Transportation Rotimieh M.H.U. is working secretly for the presidential candidate of the PDP at Tikua Buboka, who is the presidential candidate. Now, this is as the state PDP campaign council has said that it had identified M.H.U. as a member of the Kabao Pushing Nigerians with the current fuel and nier escursity. The director of publicity and communications, River's State PDPCC chief Ogun Naunke, made this known in a statement issued in Port Hakat on Monday. Now, he further alleged that the former Minister of Transportation M.H.U. recently reconciled with members of the PDP presidential campaign council in the state and has since been working secretly and holding meetings with Atiku and others in the campaign council. Well, joining us to discuss this live is Opunabua Incotaria, a former Spokesperson for the River's State Governor, Nusomweke, and of course, we're being joined by Sir Mayor Eli, who is the Spokesman for River's State's APC campaign council. Thank you very much, gentlemen, for joining us. Good evening. Good evening, my dear. Great. Opunabua, I'm going to start with you. You obviously had works with Governor Weke, and you know, you and I have had conversations about the G5 governors and the no-love loss between Governor Weke and the presidential flag bearer of the PDP. But then of course, we also know the rifts between Governor Weke and the former Governor of River's State, who is also former Transportation Minister. And so it's very difficult for the ordinary person to understand what's going on here. Jake, can you quickly paint a picture for us, and how could this be? I mean, for somebody who ran for the ticket for presidency in the opposition, someone who has always clearly stated his position in the APC to be walking in cahoots with the presidential candidates of the PDP. Okay. Can we have it? Yes, we can. Okay. I actually cannot ascertain the velocity of voting minus of that grade by Obunabu Weke. And I read today a piece written by Ize Kippu-Meta, Ize, where he denied that report. He said, his principle, that is what we can do about it, is not to walk into the official's lady, the PDP presidential candidate, and that there is no answer to that. That is all I can say. But if I have to go forward, I don't know why the PDP in River's State will come up with a certain indication and want to compromise, because Yesom Ize is walking openly, openly, not openly, openly with Golland and Jinnibu. In fact, they have instructed the local government challenge to ensure that they do not allow the local government to Jinnibu. They even threatened that should any fail to do so, such a chairman will be removed from office. So I don't see anything where I can't start from, the rationale behind that publication. Probably it is to let Nigeria Zarela to cast as fashion, you want to make it look like magic. But that won't be the case, whatever it is, it won't be the case. Because it's also my conviction that even those in the APC in River's State and Jinnibu River's State will not even vote for Golland and Jinnibu. That is my perception, that is my conviction. I'm not saying that it won't be the case. But from what is the duty of that case published today, and what I read, I don't think there is any ounce of truth in that allegation. I doubt it. Okay, quickly, before I ask my next question, I think we're getting feedback from somebody. I think somebody has a fan on something that's air blowing to one of your speakers. We need for you to move away from that sound so that we can start the conversation. Alright, now let's talk about, so Wei, I'm coming to you. Most recently, in fact, since the presidential primaries of the APC, we've not necessarily seen and heard a lot from the former minister of transportation. And it was conspicuously absent when the presidential candidates of the APC visited the state. So it's one thing to say, well, let's support the presidential candidate. But it's another to see the body language and see actions coming from the Honourable Minister of Transportation. What's going on there? So Wei, can you hear me? Yes, go ahead. Well, with respect to the opinions people are forming on the body language of our leader, typical of the G, it's time to be abused. But, you know, even the Bible says that in time they're quiet. In time for everything. They might not have been in the political news. Since 1999, nonstop. And for the first time, he's facing his academic work. And then Nigerians are bothered. Well, for me, it's not the issue. That shouldn't be the issue. It was doing something that was contrary to what everybody knows him to be. Then we can begin to have some guesses. And that's why the recklessness of our senior program, my friend Bonahoke, speaking for the bid that he comes to cause for concern. I mentioned that we know he's in Bribha. I mentioned that we know there's no speak from two corners of his mouth. He says it as he says. Why are people not bothered? They're not seeing him in the Bribha Safety Campaigns, leading to an equal, one between three agents. I think he's doing the bidding call. They should call them bother as well. They're bothered, taking it to his academic work. Maybe you do not know that the man is in Nigerian law school at the moment. He's in a law school. That's a program that's quite intensive. So he's given his time to that program. And I've not been trying to mix that. There's a politician at the law school who is running on the campaign trains, on anybody. So this mission is neither here nor there. The man at the moment is actively involved in academic work at Niger law school. And that is a portion we have at the moment. Very interesting. At a time like this when everybody or all hands need to be on deck, elections are a few days away. In fact, they're all through the campaign season. You made a mention of the fact that the Amici, we know, yes, he's a very outspoken, very clear when he's making statements. All of a sudden becomes very quiet. And one would say that that silence could speak so many, it speaks a lot. And you're telling me that, oh, he's going to law school and that's very important. Yes, of course, education is important. But his party is running for a revered office, one which he also tried to, you know, contest for. And again, there's a lot that is at stake for a River State APC. And you're telling me that all that concerns your principle is his law school. How well does that sit with anybody? I'm curious. Okay, let's put it this way. Amici was speaker for eight years. Amici was governor for eight years. And for nearly eight years of the minister, that's the man that has traveled the political trajectory of the family, his structure, that is well rooted in every of the 319 words of the River State. So in his absence, so much sublime, he has seen us everywhere. He can really run in almost on autopilot effortlessly. He has a strong, vibrant political structure in the River State. And if we are to say, let's move in this direction, in second you see action in that direction. And we're saying that there's a cost for a land at the moment. So those are showing white votes. I put up in Kotaia. My regrets, my only regret is, yes, a man who, Amici appointed as director of press and press and government house. Amici appointed him again in that first term as commissioner of information. And by second time sending to the House of Revisals, in all of those years, we're going to learn nothing about him. That's about Amici and his character. When you say that he sent him, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Sugmaye, because I like for people to be very clear on things like this. You say Amici sent him to the House of Representatives. So you're saying that it's not the votes of the people in his constituency that sent him to the House of Representatives. He was, he was anointed. He was anointed by the then governor to go to the House of Representatives. So he owes thanks to the governor, right? As candidates, a chair and a member of the board for him. But how did he get the tickets? The governor made that possible, right? So it was the governor who made it possible. He must have passed over the heads of others who were more deserving than he was. Of course, the governor's living party had a final say. Who did the primaries against? Who did they win? How many votes? So Amici sent him to the House of Representatives. Now, if he has a strength of character, you don't know that Amici is not one who speaks from two corners of his mouth. It's unfortunate that all of those years when Amici learned nothing about who he was working with and was working on that. So if he had learned a thing or two about Amici, that statement that came from him, that horrendously annoying statement that came from him, that's when that abuses morality to the high standards would have come. I would not be having this conversation. If Amici had made up his mind to work for a seat of bunker, it's not going to have the privilege to speak. I speak for the campaign who have instructions to say something on TV or radio. And Amici himself is not pressurized. So training time flows on the desk. We're not like them. Yes, I'm a VK. We have got to be there. It's everywhere. It's a strong local Benjamin, like my brother Punebo have said here. So both the PDP, Solidary APC kind of for president, our kind of Aswajibola Khmertynibu, or Rick's expulsion from office. In the same party, in the same state, we're reading from other platforms, when they're saying that this is internal memo and should not be leaked or funded as leaked. So everywhere they say they're working for Aswajibola, they're not in that as well. We are not in that kind of viewership and character. We come on streets for you, not a trade between when the Prime Minister in May 2022 and now permission to work here from APC. I'll come back to you to talk more about internal party, you know, situations in River State. But let me come back to Punebo. Punebo, let's again go back to, you know, the fact that Amici was conspicuously absent at Tinibu's campaign rally. Something that everyone would want to be, every APC member would want to be associated, because of course, like I said earlier, on all hands have to be on deck to show some sort of support for your candidate. Now, I'd like to ask you about the fact that there's been speculations of a romance between Governor Wike and of course the APC presidential candidate. Do you think that that must have rocked off somewhat negatively on the former governor of River State? And I'd like to hear your thoughts on his, I mean, this excuse of him going to law school as opposed to being there for the presidential candidates of the APC. Well, if I have to speak frankly, I don't know if it has to do with the relationship between Nesha Wike and Dara Amitini. That is the realm of conjunction. But if I have to speak frankly, I think that probably there is no, not less between Amitini and Dara Amitini. And that is why Amitini did not attend. Then, because if we also look at major states, the vice president was not even there at the grand rally. He was not even there. The vice president was not even there when Dara Amitini went stunted. He was not also there. So, probably, it's a matter of conjunction. Go ahead, you guys. I find it not love, love between Amitini and Dara Amitini. I don't want to think that it is because of Dara Amitini. I don't want to think that Amitini is known for his integrity. He's a very brave man. You can't take that away from me. You have to fix it. So, I don't think so. But if you ask me, go ahead and give me what my God has said. Go ahead and give me lost you. You don't know if on that day he has an assignment or not. On that day he has everybody present also. You can't really tell, you know. Whatever we are saying here is we are just guessing. So, I want to believe that probably one of the reasons why Amitini come to Portugal was because there's no love, love between Amitini and Dara Amitini. And don't forget, it also has to do with how the presidential candidate treats the man. It's a conjunction. I don't have the facts. If, for example, we consider, because I know that after the primaries, I think they had a meeting where they tried to bury the hatchet, tried to smitten out the rats. What happened subsequently, I built them, you know. So, probably it also depends on how the presidential candidate didn't resolve the problem without treating the man. And if, for example, you try to demean a man or you want to tell the man that he's not important or without him you can be. Of course, such a man, any man with pride, you just stay away. And that is what I guess. That is what I can start with from all of us. But not necessarily because of the weekend, the relationship with Amitini. I doubt that. I'm going to push you further. Since we're talking conjectures here, you know the saying that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So I go back. Maybe I'm going to ask this question in another way. Not necessarily. I completely agree with that. Not necessarily. And so I'm going to tell you when you hate a man who hates your father, it's a common, what is it called again? An age in Calabar Island. A man who hates your father will never love you. It's also not completely true. Because I know what you're trying to say is that since there is no love left between this weekend and Amitini. And this weekend, of not being with Bola and Amitini, definitely Bola and Amitini or Yeson weekend or Amitini will become enemies. I don't necessarily think so. Because it's politics. What will Amitini want from Yeson weekend? Nothing. What will Amitini want from Bola and Amitini? Nothing. If A.P.C. wants river states, as leader of A.P.C. river states or even the south side, if A.P.C. wants river states, naturally Amitini takes the credit. Naturally. He takes the credit because he's the leader of the A.P.C. at river states and I think by extension the south side. But he probably has a reason which he might not even disclose to anybody why he stayed away. My brother is talking of law school. That's probably he has a better information. He's talking of law school. But I want to believe that it has to do with a relationship between Amitini and Bola and Amitini which I think is trusty. I don't think it's smooth. That's what I agree from what has happened. I don't really think it's smooth and I think that is probably why Amitini has stayed away. Since he can be good. I thought it was Amitini if he looked at the vice person. He has really not been stomping with Bola and Amitini even in Lagos state the Grand Rally today I watched it. The vice president was not there but the president was there. But it's a matter of choice and a matter of perception. I don't think it really has to do with yes or no. I doubt that. Let me quickly come back to Sugbe Sugbe. Let's talk about the APC in River State. This is not the first time that your governorship candidate is running for this office. Remember what happened the last time in 2019. But thank goodness those cases have all been cleared and now your party is good to go. But what is the situation within the River State APC because there are many who would say that your candidate and your party is fighting a lost cost being that many pundits would say that River State is a PDP state and Governor Wiki has said he's going to deliver his state even though he has not spoken about the national. But then of course in your case you have a toying call and also several pundits have posited that the former transportation minister has left him out alone in the cold. What would be your response? Very odd question. May I have your hand? Yes, I can. Good. We have a toying call. I call him in a row twice. And in the fray every candidate out there respects them and not as much. I said they don't know his antics then. And I said they don't care to know what's up present in River State. I said it's not enough on mediocrity. My problem is how they can either farm or unite these but that's the truth. We have a state that has a pedigree a history an attitude to power and politics. And not this not this mediocrity we are supposed to in the last eight years. If we talk about quality and character and what a leader has to offer except he didn't watch his own two debates two days ago and I said I don't fall in love on the campaign trail. Anywhere toying call has arrived at including that on the east today. While we came it was also a similar product. He saw the crowds that came out as a policy in a campaign to make sure that except a candidate for House of Assembly a candidate for the House of Representatives in that kind of constituency or a candidate for the Senate that's in South District and other business in that campaign. So if you watch our clips you see that we measure with strict people who are something too without campaign all in a year and as Govan areas who are picking the nuggets who are picking the people who are extremely yearning for change I want to say what's in this PDP I love Mary and the Recall in 2019 and thank God for the revelations of God recently in Govindas, in these multinational pieces of body loan and how Tuyeco lost the point to fly the flag in 2019 we adopted Bukumabahawara of the action last I feel that action is so easy so worth spending less than 24 hours to the Govindas elections I did that which you went to let me know the pronouncements that was on Tuesday evening about what I was going to face and notice that in that election it took three weeks behind that to make a declaration everything in the south south from Cross River to Paiwong had had a declaration so that picture that people play the body was in PDP is a fraud I'm also counting on this quickly I have a question because we don't have time quickly I just want to ask a quick question I might sound like I'm repeating myself but what chance does your gov. candidate and all the other candidates running for different offices in river state have against the PDP won when you talk about the fact that we saw the crowd anybody can have a crowd at campaigns but does that amount to the number of people who have PVCs and who are going to show up at the polling unit at the party whatever the crowd was can that amount to votes okay move away from the crowd can you match the quality of the PDP candidate by any means whatsoever which are they called by no means I must say there's a light in the north to know what they want if the PDP is the benchmark assessment then the man they brought is by no means a match I'm going to see the results of what the votes match our candidates for candidates vis-à-vis the PDP candidates for assembly you see the results and you know that we're not here to joke we will win okay this is why the party that claims to be on ground is at fucking rallies and making campaigns impossible even though that G3 Wiki has been living on false false false hope he's been working on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on We're out of time. We're out of time, gentlemen. Opponaboy Incotara is a former Spokesperson for the River State Govno, Nyesha Mwike, and of course is a political analyst. Also, we want to say thank you. So we, Eli, is the Spokesman for the River State APC Campaign Council. Thank you so much, gentlemen. Unfortunately, time is not on our side. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you for staying with us. We'll take a quick break. When we come back, we'll be discussing the ADC and claims of the party, endorsing not just the Labour Party, but the PDP. Stay with us. We'll be right back.