 Baiklah. Selamat pagi, saya adalah seorang teman-teman di antara kamu dan makan malam kamu. Jadi saya cuba membuatnya seperti biasa. Baiklah. Baiklah. Jadi, saya bercakap tentang perniagaan perniagaan dan perniagaan perniagaan. Ada sesiapa yang berkenal dengan perniagaan perniagaan? Ya, tentu saja. Saya akan memilih di sini. Baiklah. Jadi, saya bercakap dengan diri saya. Anda ingin tahu lebih banyak tentang saya, saya akan memilih kode QR. Saya akan pergi ke web saya. Baiklah. Saya dapat mencari tangan saya di atas bawah sana. Saya menghubungi e-commerce dan fintech di geospatial. Ada informasi tentang saya. Saya adalah seorang teman-teman di seorang teman-teman di Singapura. Kemudian saya berhubungi kepada orang-orang yang indah. Baiklah. Baiklah. Baiklah. Baiklah. Baiklah. Baiklah. Baiklah. Jadi, pada tahun 2017 di Singapura, saya bercakap tentang bagaimana saya rasa e-commerce akan dipindah oleh Shopee Fun. Anda dapat mencari kode QR. Anda akan pergi ke www.dngg.sg.com dengan langsung dan anda dapat mendengar tentang e-commerce. Baiklah. Dan e-commerce ini akan menjadi kontinuasi. Dan semoga ada bahan-bahan tentang e-commerce yang berubah. Baiklah. Jadi, anda dapat pergi ke www.dngg.sg.com sekarang. Saya suka data. Dan anda dapat menerima kode itu. Pada www.dngg.sg.com 19. Dan menjawab kesilapan untuk saya. Anda lebih suka dengan e-commerce.org atau www.dngg.sg.com untuk website anda. Jadi, Sars adalah sesuatu yang digunakan pada www.dngg.sg.com. Dan anda dapat menerima kode itu. Saya suka tahu apa yang anda berfikir sekarang. Untuk beberapa sebab itu tidak berlaku. Di sana. Semoga itu berlaku. Bukan berlaku. Di sana. Jadi, tolong. Di sana. Baiklah. Jadi, www.dngg.sg.com, mana yang anda lebih suka menggunakan? Ada banyak orang yang suka menggunakan dan menggunakan diri. Baiklah. Bagaimana anda beritahu orang? Bagaimana anda beritahu orang? Baiklah. Baiklah, 13. Beri saya satu minit lagi. Baiklah, 15. Saya rasa ini berikan idea keadaan sekarang. Jadi, banyak orang lebih teknikal. Mereka suka menggunakan diri. Mereka mahu menggunakan kode dan melihat apa yang berlaku. Baguslah. Jadi, itu berikan idea keadaan orang yang di sini. Jadi, What exactly is it? Software as a service? Jadi, jika anda yakin dengan plug-ins, anda harus menggunakan plug-in, anda harus menggunakan keadaan. Dan anda harus mengaktifkan banyak staf. Anda harus menggunakan produk, diskouns, kumpulan, metodologi pembangunan, bagaimana anda akan mengambil kode, bagaimana anda akan melakukan refund, bagaimana penggunaan dan sebagainya. Okey? Jadi, saya perlu menghentikan mesej saya. Pada masa anda, saya membunuh semua mesej ini. Okey, terima kasih. Jadi, pada tahun 2015, saya sebenarnya membuat sebuah mesej ini. Ia tidak berfungsi lagi. Saya melihat perniagaan itu kepada seseorang lain. Saya menjadi sebahagian dari perniagaan itu. Tetapi, dua tahun lalu, ia mati. Jadi, saya sedikit sedih. Saya tidak dapat teruskan kerja saya pada mesej ini. Tapi, seseorang lain di seluruh dunia memutuskan untuk mengambil kode dan melakukan sesuatu tentangnya. Saya telah membincangkan pemberitaan yang terhadap Dejan Murco. Saya telah membincangkan bagaimana saya melakukan perniagaan yang Rukama Sars dan pelajar yang saya ada. Dan salah satu sebab saya ingin melakukan perniagaan Rukama Sars adalah kerana saya sangat mencintai perniagaan Rukama Sars. Apabila saya membuat perniagaan Rukama Sars, perniagaan Rukama Sars tidak menjadi pilihan pertama saya. Dan perniagaan Rukama Sars seperti yang saya suka. Apabila pemberitaan Rukama Sars terakhir, dia menjadi standar defektor. Jadi, kita sudah mempunyai standar 2-3. Dan bila ia mempunyai banyak sport dan lain untuk kek. Jadi, saya tidak sangat suka sangat, tapi saya perlu melakukan perniagaan saya. Yang terkenal yang saya beratkan terlebih baik tentang Rukama Sars Shipping, konfigurasi shipping tidak sangat bagus. Sony fixed rate dan flat rate, sorry, free or flat rate. So it's either free shipping or flat shipping, which doesn't work in most cases in e-commerce today. So normally shipping is a tiered platform shipping, although commerce has a way to install your DHR, your UPS, so what not. So those are very North American centric. For us in this part of the world, not really. So you don't have your sync post, you don't have your post Malaysia and all that. So you probably need to install another plugin and then figure out your tiered pricing by yourself. So that's a lot of pain to figure out the shipping slot pain. So I tried to resolve that problem and that's why I sold my company to a shipping or other logistics company and then I had the shipping automated for me. So that didn't turn out well. WUKAR on their hand came from a different paradigm. They're based in Europe. So I'll be talking just these two WUKAR and WordPress.com when I talked about this issue back in 2017. WUKAR was software service on the WordPress platform wasn't exactly there, right? You could install WUKAR, but it wasn't really a SARS kind of feel to it. It's not like Shopify or issue it. So let's see what's under the hood at WUKAR. So this is a video of me playing around with WUKAR. So what's under the hood? This is what you get when you sign up on WUKAR. It's different from your WooCommerce interface. So you can set up your domain immediately from your settings and the add-on you can use your send grid. So email transactions is part of WUKAR. Backup is part of WUKAR. You can take a look at what plugins are there, what kind of matrices are on your page, and there's a CLI which we need. So as identity tap on that, sorry. It's a lot more. Let me just speed things up. Okay. All right, CLI. Oh, too fast. Okay, so CLI, and then you got your... arrow logs, all right, and traffic management as well. So a lot of things come under the hood in WUKAR. What it does is basically it's more of like a dashboard for server management. All right, when you send out WUKAR, you immediately get a store just like Shopify. So a store is immediately created for you and this is the first thing that you see. And then I can go immediately to my site. And everything is already pre-configured. Done, very nice, very sweet. So this is all the basic data. So it's demo data. You need to set up your own products data but it gives you immediately how a store will look like. And then you can immediately go into your WordPress backend. So it's using... For the teams, the default team, the first dashboard interface is slightly different so they modify the dashboard a little bit. But everything else is basically WUKARMUS vanilla. So what that means is that they don't really resolve the problem of shipping because that's the most painful part for me. Payments... Well, whoever you want with payments, default, stripe, paper, and so on. But they try to resolve a bit here about shipping so a lot of things are already pre-configured in terms of their zones and then just add all your stuff from there. Okay? So I wouldn't want to delve more into this. Let's look at what WordPress has done. So a couple of years later Shopify broke up with WordPress and you can no longer put a Shopify links onto WordPress and vice versa. So that happened and WordPress decided to go their way and add their own thing. Oh, it's not working anymore. Okay. Okay, so WordPress.com what I like about WordPress.com is that it's WordPress interface. WordPress.com interface. So this is what my very old blog is like. So I'm just going to click on the plan. Okay, this is... You've all seen this before. So this is WordPress.com's own interface. Okay? So everybody knows what it looks like. I'm just going to move over to the... Okay, everybody knows the customizer. Everybody knows the plugins. I'm just going to... Okay, so you want to install WooCommerce. Okay, you want to install WooCommerce. It's not on your free plan. There are four plans on WordPress.com. So you need to at least be on the business plan. All right, there are two plans that support WooCommerce. It's either the business plan or the e-commerce plan. The differences are really mostly in terms of support everything else, more or less the same, in my opinion. Okay, let's see how much that costs. Okay. Let's stop. So business plan costs $35 per month built annually. Okay? So you get free domain. You get everything in Jetpack, which I hate also. Email and live chat support. Unlimited premium teams. So a lot of free teams on WordPress are okay-okay lah. The premium teams I don't want to say are really nice, right? So unlimited premium teams are a good thing. Okay? And then the e-commerce plan is $63 per month. Wow. Okay? So we got everything in business plan and so forth. Obviously, I did not buy and give it a spin because I cannot afford it. That's why I'm looking for a job. Okay? So just quickly look at how much it costs per year. Okay? So I have some credits apparently. So if I don't have credits, it's going to cost me $420. And then, if I'm on the e-commerce plan, it's going to pretty much double the cost. Okay? So, skip that part. So basically, SaaS is all about signing up an email address and then clicking two, three pages and that's it. You get the store immediately. You can start selling almost immediately. You don't need to configure servers. Right? And that's what you want because, you know, business people don't want to stress about who's going to take care of my server, who's going to support my website and all that. Everything to do with SaaS is as a service. Nobody needs to delve the code. Okay? That's nice but most people like us, developers want to mess with code. As you can see, just now about 17 people like to mess with code. So, what's that in between? For me, that's who commerce manage hosting. And the ones I'm going to talk about today, Pentium and Nestify, there's probably a lot out there, our sponsors, like SiteGround and Bluehost and all that. They've probably got somebody hosting I saw. But the ones that I'm going to talk about are these two, Pentium and Nestify because I kind of think that they have a very nice toolkit. So, let's talk about Pentium first. Okay, Pentium. So, just a 3 minute video about Pentium. This is what you get after you sign up. It takes less than a minute to sign up. You've got multiple dev environments, dev environments, teaching and live which is great. Right? You can commit code through JIT which is nice. Right? Or SFTP if you want SFTP. There's statuses to tell you whether jobs are not done or plugins are broken and so on. Arologs which is very nice. We can add domains and buy or prepare your SSL. Right? Seamlessly through Pentium. Backups are inbuilt. Okay? And configure your security settings and there's new relic already part of this dashboard. Alright? So, what happens is that when you sign up for Pentium immediately you get the site which is really nice. Okay? So, you have your vanilla WordPress but you don't have WooCommerce yet. So, they don't have a way to set up WooCommerce immediately but at least we got your WordPress site immediately which is very nice. Okay? So, if you wanted to install WooCommerce you need to go to the plugins repository again and then just install WooCommerce which is not that bad. Alright? But everything else is still vanilla. Okay? It doesn't really solve your shipping issues and so on you know, your steps to launch faster. This is slightly different for your one-click installs on your rudimentary shared hosting servers. What these guys do is that they create a nice environment for developers like us to really develop your site on their environment so you prepare all the nice environments for you with their staging and live so you can really do all the kind of stuff that you need to do and test all the kind of stuff that you need to test before it goes to production. It's me testing out the JIT clone onto my local and then just change something and then just to add a little line there okay to make that change so I'm going to type echo hello okay and see whether it does what it really claims to do. Okay? I'm going to JIT add and then JIT commit and then JIT push type faster lah. Okay? All right Okay, I have to type in a password. You don't need to type in a password if you've already added your what you call your keys inside. All right? And then let's see what it change. Okay? Where is it? Refresh lah. Refresh. Okay? So I have to refresh a few times I actually wondered whether it was inside the code didn't really see it there. So eh, where? Eh, not there yet. So it took a bit of time for JIT to really propagate. Okay? And there you go. Oh okay, great. So it it does work. Okay? So that's that's panten. Okay? Very nice dashboard. Very clean, very pleasing to the eye and it's so easy to understand. Okay? So this is great for agencies if you are agency panten actually has an agency plan. All right? So there are discounted plans if you are agency and then just on board new clients through your own dashboard so you can pack everything into your own organization. All right? As opposed to having a VPS and then load up you know your separate WordPress or WooCommerce sites and then try to manage everything by yourself. Which is what you don't want to do. And as developers you just want to code you don't want to care about maintaining your servers. Okay? So with these guys you don't need to maintain servers and you maintain it for you. Okay? You just need to code you just need to push things to jet. All right? So let's look at Nestify. Nestify is very similar to panten. Slightly longer videos so I try to speed it up bit. One thing I like about Nestify is that you can actually choose where you want to host your servers. So if they use to have a Singapore-based server they don't longer have that and they have WooCommerce as a default so you can just select WooCommerce as a default and immediately WooCommerce is also pre-installed together. All right? So right now that's processing, processing. Okay? And then you know doing its magic at the back and launching stuff launching your WordPress and WooCommerce into their servers I'm just going to speed it up a bit and there you go. So launch the servers are launched. All right? Don't worry about the password you know, it's changed anyway. SSRs they're also which is nice there's redirect rules so you can actually modify your redirect rules directly. You've got cash there which panten didn't have. Okay? And then you can choose your PHP version which panten also didn't have. All right? And great, you have JIT which is what all there's like to do for version control and you can copy and clone database which panten actually just now didn't have but they have database access on panten as well. Nestify has PHP by admin panten didn't have but doesn't really matter if you know your database or things if you're on panten earlier. Okay? So this is my WooCommerce site. Okay? If I'm going to login into the admin panel I would get vanilla WordPress panel so nothing fancy there and not like WooCom. All right? Okay? But you still need to do that one thing install WooCommerce admin before it's properly installed. So slight difference on SAS is that you don't need to run this. SAS everything is already done. That part is already done. This part is already done. Okay? For many shows you've got to run this part a bit more. All right? Which is fine. If your developers okay, this is fine. All right? But if you are lay people your business guys and you don't want to deal with this sort of stuff then okay, not so fine. All right? Yeah. So this is all vanilla. I wouldn't really go too much into that these are all the default stripe and paper but it's familiar with that. Okay? So I'm just going to go through everything and then see what happens. Here I installed Jetpack. Please don't do that. Jetpack will slow down aside. Okay? Yup. I really hate Jetpack. There we go. Okay. And I'm ready to start selling after 5 minutes. All right? Add a new product. So everything is pretty much the same. All right? And then done. Okay? Yeah. Again, Nestify is also built for agencies. So if you're an agency this is great. Nestify really helps comparison chart, comparison at a glance, what the stuff that Ucard has, WordPress, has, Nestify has. So instant store to be fair, WordPress.com doesn't really have instant store. You still need to click on that install plugin button but they have the plan. I assume that if you activate the plan it is going to be installed for you. I did not try because I cannot afford 400 bucks at that point in time. Info, right? No free trial. No free trial? No free trial. Pantheon you still need to click install for your WooCommerce. Nestify just now as you can see you can just select WooCommerce beforehand and everything is installed for you. Okay? For the SaaS obviously there's no jit. Obviously you don't have access to your database because it's SaaS. Just like your Shopify site you don't have access to jit. You don't have access to your database. There's no way that you can touch your code. Alright? There's no local environment. No. Okay? But this is perfect for people who just want to get started into e-commerce and don't want to do Shopify but still want to have freedom of their data and of their code. So you can anytime export this out and self-host it yourself which is great. Alright? Now the one thing about WooCut that I really like is that they actually have a dev environment which most SaaS platformers don't have. Shopify has it only if you're an agency not if you're a self start customer of Shopify. Alright? WooCut actually has a choice of server location I didn't actually go through that earlier. Okay? So you can actually access your site. WooCut allows you to install custom plugins WordPress doesn't really allow you to install custom plugins it's only whatever is on the repository so you can't really add or import your own plugins. Alright? Unless of course you upgrade to VIP then that's a different story altogether. Custom teams same thing over there. The one thing that's different that WordPress does better than everyone is of course space. There's unlimited space. Okay? But in terms of friendliness I don't think that WordPress.com is friendly even with that nice blueish clean interface the rest have their own very neat dashboards. Right? The price WooCut wow, euro 5 bucks per month. Okay, thanks. And you can see how that's like for the others. Okay? Poor time which e-commerce platform do you use? WooCommerce, Shopify, others. Do I really need to pour that? Okay, good. I need data. I need data. Come on. What? Easy call. Come on. Okay. Is it moving? Sometimes I don't know where the slido works. It's like there's a lag or something. Let me just see whether that works again. Okay? Okay? I should give it a minute then it changes. Probably by the end will be the stats coming out. Not loading? If I maxed out my slido, come. WooCommerce. Shopify. Can't hold it. We're so shy. Others. Okay. It's not really loading up. Man, slido. Come on. Ayah. Okay. Saya hanya membeli sas di sini. Jadi, saya hanya mengambil Shopify ke dalam mix. Instance Store, segala-galanya. Saya hanya mengambil segala-galanya. Okey? Jadi, anda dapat melihat perbezaan berbeza. Sekarang banyak. Sekarang, perbezaan berbeza. Kita perlu mempunyai yang sangat marah. Untuk WooCommerce, segala-galanya. Shopify segala-galanya. Okey? Okey. Saya berharap perbezaan berbeza lebih baik. Saya berharap ini akan berfungsi. Ini adalah pertanyaan yang sama? Ini adalah pertanyaan yang berbeza, bukan? Terlalu mudah untuk memasukkan. Okey. Ya, anda harus mempunyai perbezaan berbeza. Ia tidak memasukkan perbezaan terlebih dahulu. Ya, ia tidak memasukkan. Okey. Perbezaan berbeza masih berbeza. Mereka tidak memasukkan perbezaan berbeza pada masa itu. Sangat. Perbezaan berbeza. Perbezaan berbeza. Okey, tidak mengapa. Saya akan menyebabkan semua orang berkata WooCommerce. Okey. Jadi, ini adalah apa yang perbezaan sudah berkata. Ini berkata dari mereka sendiri. Sebelum tahun 2017, ini berkata 3,000,000. Sekarang, ia berkata 5,000,000. Okey? Mereka berkata, anda akan memasukkan perbezaan berbeza. Okey? WooCommerce lebih baik daripada Shopify. Lihatlah perbezaan. Itu saja yang anda perlu melihat. Okey, 5,000,000. Lihatlah perbezaan. Perbezaan dan installasi seperti pada bulan 2019. Lihatlah di perbezaan. Lihat perbezaan berbeza. Lihat perbezaan. Baiklah. Seluruh perbezaan, perbezaan yang berlaku pada tahun 2018, ada 800,000 perbezaan yang berlaku di perbezaan yang berlaku pada tahun 2017. Itu merupakan 1.5 milion. Jadi, ada setiap setiap setiap setiap. Ini semua baik dan segala-galanya. Tetapi, seperti yang anda tahu, Maksud saya, ada 3 jenis berlaku, pada seluruh jenis dan kawasan. Okey, tidak ada yang beritahu yang penerbangan kerana jika anda melihat data dari surenang. Ini dari 부�ul seluruh 1.5 milion yang berkurus pada 25 per cent, 25 per Cent dengan 20 per cent daripada 1.5 milion. 10,000 per cent merupakan sedikit lebih, sebenarnya, lebih banyak. 20 per cent berkurus pada 4 per cent pada 10,000 jenis. Jadi, saya tidak akan memasakkan minit saya. In Singapore, it's pretty even Steven Shopify 25% and we're commerce at 23%. Alright, so, time for Q&A. Obviously, Sido is not working at the moment. So, just shout out your answers. Question time? Ask my own professional opinion. To be fair, I hate Shopify also. I just hate WooCommerce more. So, I'm agnostic. I don't really care so long as it benefits the customer. And most customers are not tech. They don't understand it. So, they just want to use whatever works. My personal preference is ECWIT. Anybody else? Any other questions? Yes. I'm proud of Pantheon. And again, thank you. Nice, nice, light. Thank you. I was able to miss... You have a chart there? Yeah. The first row is... Instance site? Instance site. I was able to miss that part. So, my definition for it is... In terms of WooCommerce site, not a WordPress site. So, for Pantheon, you still need to go to the plugin repository and click on install WooCommerce. For Nestify, you don't need to do that. You can just select WooCommerce from the beginning dashboard. And when it finishes loading up, WooCommerce already installed. Thanks. Any other questions? How many more times do I have? I'm done. I'll take two more. This one? Okay. So, actually, from here, do you agree? Yes. So, from the... I mean, this one is public data. Yes, public data. So, from here... I'm not making this up. Okay. So, do you think that WooCommerce is better? So, WooCommerce is great for some things, not great for others. It's great for us developers. But, it's free as in free speech. Okay. So, if you want endless customizations, yes, use WooCommerce. Okay. Amongst all the e-commerce platforms, WooCommerce, Manjento, and what's the other one that people like to talk about? I don't know. Sorry? Jumlah. So, something like that. I kind of feel that WooCommerce is still better than Manjento because there's less tables. To still install 300-plus tables. Right? So, it's very heavy. The footprint is very heavy. And people still don't understand how to use it. Okay. So, I kind of feel that WooCommerce is still a little bit more friendlier and lighter. Right? Anything else? One more? Okay, yes. I saw on some of the parties that... I saw some... that every international office they... another website they like to sell Shopify but up for sale that website. So, I had this perception that Shopify is used by both of the top seller of Amazon and Shopify should be better. I don't know. I have limited know of Shopify. Yeah. So, one thing that Shopify is very good at is actually it was already built for medium-size retailers from the beginning and it allows you to scale fast because it's on the cloud. Right? Whereas WooCommerce most of WooCommerce installs are self-hosted. Right? I... they're not really on WordPress VIP or they're not really on AWS. So, normally they are on your shared hosting service. Right? So, for Shopify, one thing good about that is that you know, you can scale without thinking too much and everything is done by them. It's not done by your developers. Okay? So, the perception is good only because that you take care of a lot of things on the back. It's like VIP but you know, for smaller-size guys. But you have to bear in mind that a lot of things that you want, there's a price to it. There's a very heavy price to it. So, the cheapest ones are $29 per month but some things like automatic tiered shipping is coming at a price of $299 per month. That's even more expensive than your own WordPress.com. Yeah? Any other questions? Not. Yes, I'll take this one more. Hai. I'm also from Malaysia. Hai. Usually, when we come to e-commerce, I always find out that a lot of article sayings like e-commerce or WordPress are only for small to medium business, not for large business. Why is that? Perception. Perception? Or more to like traffic when we... No, it's not. It's not. Okay. One concern is actually the way that the table structure is organized. I think it might have changed recently. To be fair with you and to be frank, if you have not touched e-commerce for about two years, so I can't really say of the latest changes. Okay. But back in 2017, at least the table structure was very bad. So, the parts about the variance are tough to work with. But on Shopify, it's a lot easier because it was already directed at retail e-commerce. So, it's great for 5,000 SKUs and below. Above that, you might see your side slow down. Yup. In that case, Magento would be better because they are configured for more than 5,000 SKUs. That's why they have more than 300 tables. Okay. So, or more like the table structure? Table structure, basically because there's you know, weird things going back in the e-commerce tables, basically. Ya. Thank you. Okay. Alright. So, just one more slide actually. So, this is helping out the friends over there at e-commerce. Okay. So, if you are here today, they come in 7 days free travel. But if you send them an e-mail to that website, just scan that and you'll get an additional 14 days. Alright. Just say my name. Hey, an additional 14 days. Okay. Thank you so much. I would not be at the after-party. So, you want to talk to me, talk to me immediately after this. Alright. Thank you so much. Thanks.