 And I'm sorry, that's a real bummer. I think grand scheme though, I mean this agenda was not as bad, so at least we're not pushing off time. Yeah, absolutely. And if anybody needs to jump off, I'll stay on for the 730 and 735. It's really up to you guys with what you're comfortable with. I only see Brittany Ferber from each engineering on there, but that I don't see any attendees. Erin, do you want me to stay on? Come again? Do you want me to stay on? I don't mind staying on, Jen. I mean, I think I can hold on. My voice can hold on until we get through. I wish you weren't so stubborn. I can keep Erin company if that works for a little bit, but you all should, you know, if you want to head off, that's fine. Okay. So just, I'll just announce to Brittany, because Brittany's on in the audience. In case she's listening that we just, it was just brought to our attention that this meeting was not posted properly on the town clerk's website. And so as a result of that, we actually can't, we can't hold the meeting since it wasn't properly posted. So we're just going to basically be continuing hearings tonight and we're going to have to reschedule all the business until the next meeting, which is on March 20. March 22nd, yes. So we can't talk about like the DPW memo or anything, the MOU? No, okay. Shouldn't, yeah. We could review that via email, you know, not, not corresponding with all of us via email, but one off with Erin, if we wanted to. Erin, maybe we should do that is just I'll send comments and then we can send to have people can individually email Erin any comments they have. And that way we can send it before. Yeah, and I progress before March 22nd. I put a word version of the DPW menu memo in the, I think the correspondence folder, but if anybody needs me to actually email them a copy, I mean, I can email it to the whole group and or. You know, individuals if you need it. I've got mine right here. Okay. I'm glad you guys can access on there so easily. So just to confirm we're not holding our meeting. So is there any reason for me to stay on? Okay, then I will go sit by my fire. I know, I know you all will be heartbroken. They will be because they get to watch a movie on meeting nights. Oh, I'm going to crash the party. Oh, well, all right, we'll all see you guys weeks. Sounds good by Michelle. Okay. Hi, Michelle. Hey guys. Hi, Andre. Thank you. Goodbye. Thanks. Thanks for the words, Jen. Yeah, same to you. All right. All right, Aaron, are you sure? Yeah, no, I'm happy to stay. Please. I'll chill with Aaron for a little bit. Yeah. Okay. All right. We'll tell bad jokes. Sounds good. I wish I could think of one right now. There's so many good wetlands puns. Really? They're my favorite. Yeah. I'm swamped water under the bridge. You know, I had this whole experience this week. So this, we're doing this project at work. It's pretty cool actually where, where we developed a machine learning model that allows us to predict flow from image data. So what this does is enable us to take pretty low cost game cameras and aim them at streams, and then collect that image and then get a flow hydrograph. And it's not like gold standard data. It doesn't have as quite as much accuracy as like a full blown USGS gauge, but it's really good data where otherwise we don't have any information. And we're really focused on this for refugio work where most of our like very sensitive aquatic kind of habitats are in the head waters, but it has a lot of other applications. So if you're thinking like flow permanence, the fix that we're looking for. And so we're working like with these water science centers all over the country to kind of deploy these cameras and collect all kinds of different data to like train this model. And we have one a camera down in the pine Bairns, New Jersey. And this week we caught a Beaver building a dam across a weir in 15 minutes increments. You can see like nothing on the weir 15 minutes later, like 20 giant logs across the weir with like the beavers like BDIs. So the work like email train about like making beaver jokes about the beaver building dams went on for like literally 20 minutes. I want to hear those that sounds like so much fun. Yeah, it was it's pretty funny. We're very proud of ourselves for for catching a busy beaver on film. It's always amazing what they are able to accomplish in a night. Yeah. Yeah, it's they're really, really incredible. Alex sent me some pretty excellent videos about beavers which I watched today. Finally, and they, I, you know, it's really amazing. A lot of it is the benefits of beavers for climate change. They're all kinds of they found through research all kinds of information basically pointing to like beavers beaver impoundments keeping the temperature down not only in the water, but also in the air around the impoundment which is just, I mean it's just amazing and was like all kinds of information about how they build their lodges and how they survive inside and it's like they're really fascinating creatures really cool. Have you guys read that book Eager by Ben Goldfarb? It's really good. It's all about beavers and like their like value to ecosystems like, and especially habitat refugia and groundwater recharge and kind of both their historic role and kind of what they are doing now. It's very good. I have a copy of it. Maybe I can bring it to you Aaron on Friday. You see what they can do in a night or in a week and then it takes us humans you know now what does it take us to rebuild a bridge on station road or you know it takes us a year. Two decades. You know literally you know to bridge or something like fairly simple over a 10 foot wide stream it takes us a year and $3 million. Yeah. Really? Beavers can do it in about three nights. Yeah. All right. Well thanks guys very much. I'm sorry about this kerfluff Aaron, but I hope you feel better. Thank you. I'll be fine over the weekend. I just need to recharge. Yeah, absolutely. I reserved the town room for us Friday at noon so. Oh, great well plenty of space. I'm going to be feeling better because I can't. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yep. Okay. If I'm not, if I'm not better, I'll, I'll we'll reschedule for next week. Okay, sounds good. Take care of yourself. I'll talk to you guys soon. Okay. Bye. Bye bye. So I see that Steve Viano just joined. Steve, just so that you're aware we've, we've had a little bit of a. An issue because the meeting agenda didn't make it onto the town clerk's website. And so we can't actually hold a meeting tonight. Unfortunately. So everything that's on tonight's agenda is going to have to be continued to March 22nd. So I just wanted to announce that if you have any questions, Steve, please feel free to raise your hand and I can pull you in as a panelist so that we can have a conversation. So I see Steve has his hand up in. Yeah, I pulled him in. It might just take a second. There we go. Hey Steve, sorry. Okay, so you're saying that we're just going to push the meeting back or the meeting got pushed back until the next time essentially. Yeah. Unfortunately. Even though it was submitted, it didn't, for some reason, it didn't make it as a posting on the clerk's calendar, which means that we can't legally hold the meeting tonight. So everything is going to be pushed to the. March 22nd meeting and. I will probably be giving you the 750 time slot on that night. But I'll have to announce it. I'll have to, we're going to stay on and announce it at the start time of the hearings. There's a 730 and a 735. I believe you were on at 735. Okay, awesome. And then do I need to send out another butter notification? No, you don't have to. We'll are being on tonight. When the hearing was supposed to open will basically be. You know, what informs the abutters that the continuation is happening. So. So great. So there's no other paperwork or anything that I have to fill out. No, no. Okay. And thank you for the. Photos and the. Proof of recording information and I got your check. I'll be sending that out to the Gazette. So. You're all set administratively. Perfect. Thank you. I will see you on the 22nd. Okay. Okay. Yep. No problem. Bye-bye. So are you feeling a little better or are you in the mend or where are you? I just have a really bad respiratory situation happening. I have asthma anyways. I have like a cute asthma that closes my airway. And when I cough, my airway closes. So. I feel like I can't breathe because I feel like I can't breathe. So, yeah, I'm just. My voice, I'm losing my voice and, you know, coughing really badly. What it sounds worse than it is. It's mostly just my airway. Cause I feel like I can't breathe. But I, I mean, other than that, I'm great. It's not like I'm, you know, like I'm not experiencing like crazy cold symptoms. It's just this like. A respiratory issue. One more, one more bug to deal with this winter. Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm starting to wonder. If, if the cold, if like the illnesses. That, you know, over the course of COVID. If the illnesses actually got worse or if it's just our immune systems got weaker, because it seems like. Comparatively. This has just been like the most insane cold flu season. My existence. Like I've never experienced anything like this before. You have kids in daycare. I do. Yeah. They bring, they bring home. Everything they pick up from daycare. I haven't been sick at all. And you've been sick a lot. One of the differences is kids in daycare. I mean, they're definitely like little petri dishes. And, and my first, he had a ton of. Of, you know, cough, cold type things, but the severity of these just seems so much worse than before. I mean, maybe it's just, again, maybe it's just my immune system. The five years in between kids, my immune system got worse and or got weaker and also being cooped up during COVID. I mean, you know, I don't know. I don't know. Like we were also sheltered. Our immune systems weren't. Activated as much maybe. I don't know. You don't know. There'd be a combination of factors for sure. My granddaughter just get exposed to strep throat. Somebody. Allowed their child to go to daycare with strep throat. And they caught it and sent it home. But. We're hoping she doesn't. She's just. 13 months. She doesn't have to suffer through strep throat. Alex, are they, where are they geographically? Cause I was wondering if this was strep throat that I had, cause it's been really sore in my throat. Below Providence. Okay. They're not in the valley then. Well, when I was a kid, two hours away, which. You know, things care and things traveled by car too. Right. That's true. I remember every time my, my mother took me to the doctor for, cause I had chronic ear infections as a kid. They would check me for strep every single time. And I've taken my kids twice in the last week to the doctor once for pink eye and once for an ear infection. And they didn't do any inquiry about strep throat. And I'm like, that's kind of weird. Like, do you have to ask for, um, to be swabbed or just, I was surprised. I was kind of like, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it could have been strep and we like came and went. And there was no even inquiry about whether it could possibly be that. But I guess the fever and pain would have told us. So we recording. We are, um, we have to stay recording until seven 35. When I do the. Continuation. Does this have to be posted though, Aaron? The meeting. Yeah. What we're talking about now. I mean, just in general. Um, the meeting. Doesn't have to be posted on the website per se, but because we're holding a public meeting. Um, and the continuations are announced for the hearings. Um, Just for the sake of being here. Um, I would. Because if anybody shows up and gotten a butter notice, they would need to be told. I'm just saying in terms of, in terms of. Our discussion. Um, will this discussion live on in. In. In the records. Oh, um, I don't, I don't think we need to have like minutes. If that's what you mean or this meeting. I meant the audio in the video from this meeting. Does that have to go to Amherst media? And if we didn't hold the meeting. I don't, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't believe so. Yeah. I don't think so. Yeah. Is that where recordings go? Amherst media. I believe they're there. How's there. And then you can also see them on our website. Right, Erin. Um, yes, we have, we have a channel on YouTube. The. Amherst conservation commission has a YouTube channel, which we have a link to on our website. So can I ask about the land use plan and where we are? Or is that off topic? Yeah, no, we can't really. Can you, can you just tell me where we are at? I think I'd rather. I think because it was on the agenda. Alex, it's just kind of a. An odd thing. Again, I don't know what we're going to do. I just don't want to talk about, you know, commission business. If we're not having a meeting. If you want to just shoot me an email, I can send you a quick update on it tomorrow. Yeah, I was interested in his calendar, you know, I get that. We're not going to cover it until March 22. So it continues to slip. Yeah. I mean. Yeah, I don't. It's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think two weeks from now isn't. It actually gives Aaron and I a little, a little more chance to kind of. Go see that up a little bit before the next meeting. Okay. That's fine. I'm not looking for things to do. Now you have one attendee. Yeah. I wonder if that's page. So page, just so that you know. The meeting tonight, there was a problem with the posting on the town clerk website. And so we're actually not able to hold our meeting this evening because it wasn't properly posted. But we're just staying online so that we can announce continuations of the hearings. So if you have any questions, you're more than welcome to raise your hands and I can pull you in to ask a question. My only question would be, do you know the date they'll be postponed to. Yes. It will be March 22nd. And the hearings will be. For. Let's see. Bear with me just one second. So I think we're going to go. 745 for the 46 sparing. And 750 for the 21 East Hadley road. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks for coming. Good night. I'm probably going to sign off. I'm going to go use this time to work on my, I'm writing a paper on sturgeon. So I'll spend my time writing that. Oh, great. Short nose. Or other species. Short nose and Atlantic. Nice. Nice. I volunteer for an Indian tribe in Maine. They're writing the indigenous knowledge and I was asked to write the Western science knowledge. And they have an interesting. Story. Sort of a creation story. On why they're why the surgeon is a relative. They call him the grandfather fish. When I, when I worked in Turner's falls, I know that occasionally people would catch short nose sturgeon below the dam in Turner's. Oh, that's point. Right. Right. And, and, well, these were just fishermen. And would occasionally hook hook one on. And it was always a lot of outreach about. Leaving them in the river and not. Not keeping them. So. Well, they're endangered. Yeah, but most. Most people, particularly people who are fishing for subsistence really don't necessarily know that. So. Yeah. Right below cavitation. And if you go swimming at the rock dam, you can see them below the rock dam. I have never swam at the rock dam. I have fish there. Yeah. Yeah, it's a really cool place back there. Yep. Quite dangerous in the spring fresh it and in certain times of the year, when we get a lot of rain. Yeah. If you, if you put on some goggles and as well. Just. You don't have to be in scuba deer to, to. Yeah. But a pair of goggles helps. Yeah. One got up through Turner's falls and was seen over on Vernon. Wow. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah. So I've written about, well, I don't know, pretty close to 60 pages. And I'm. I have a meeting on Friday with. Folks from. The Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada who. Are going to publish it. So I need to get ready for that meeting. I, when I would tell you one last thing when I was working in Turner's, I worked with a group called the friends of the Wissett in a log. And we worked with the US Fish and Wildlife Service and this. This. Indigenous group. To purchase. And, which is kind of a cross from the Great Falls Discovery Center across from Turner's falls. Yeah. It was a site that was heavily looted, sadly heavily looted during the 60s, 70s, 80s. You go out in the forest there and you'd see like 10 by 10 foot. 10, 10 by 10 wide, 10 long and 10 foot deep or deeper holes in the forest. Where people were looting, you know, And then a lot of. Archaeological, you know, pieces. So it's kind of sad, but we did eventually buy that, that piece of property and at least conserve it. So kind of a cool project. Yeah. When did you work up in Turner's. I worked in Turner's from. Oh boy. It was a while ago. It was in the early 2000s. Probably, yeah. Like 97 to 2003, something like that. Who'd you work for? I worked for a Department of Conservation and Recreation. Mass Department of Conservation and Recreation. And also for. I was jointly paid by the state and the town actually. No frogs up there. No frogs or toads. It's a joke. Oh, no frogs. Franklin regional council. What's your favorite frog or toad. Spadefoot toad. Is my favorite. Yeah. What's the joke? Nevermind. I also worked very closely with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service because of course that's where the Conti refuge office was back in the day. Yeah. I was working with Andy French and Beth Guettel. I don't know if you ever knew Beth Guettel. I know both of them. Yeah. Beth and Tom Guettel. Yeah. I used to commute sometimes with Beth Guettel. I think they retired in Maine. If I'm not. Yes, they did. Yeah. Great people. Yeah. Yeah. Also Deb Reynolds. I don't know if you know Deb Reynolds and migratory birds, but I work with her a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Caroline. Caroline. Oh boy. I'm blanking on Caroline's last name. She was kind of the interpreter up at great falls discovery center for the U.S. Fish for a while. So. I'm feeling old though. Talking about that project. Yeah. Okay. I'm thinking we're going to sign off. We had a short agenda. I was going to write. A little bit earlier. As I was going through it saying. This will be as quick as the last one, but where we gave time back. But it was not very many items on the agenda. So now all of a sudden things are going to pile up. Oops. You're on mute. I said, I'm very bummed that the meeting was. That we had to cancel it. I'm really bummed about that. Good night, folks. Good night, Alex. Bye bye. So I'm just going to do the announcement now, Dave, because it's seven 35. That the seven 30 hearing for SWCA. 52 faring street LLC for the relocation. Reconstruction of single family house with associated site work in preparation in the 100 foot buffer to bordering. And the seven 35 request for determination of applicability for in the green gardens on behalf of Stephen. And Stacy Gordon to determine if the work proposed to replace and reconstruct stone retaining walls, patios, staircase, driveway reconfiguration and new shed placement. At 21 East Hadley Road is subject to the Well and Protection Act and new shed placement. And the seven 35 request for determination of applicability for in the green gardens on behalf of Stephen. The Well and Protection Act and municipal bylaw will be continued to March 22nd at seven 50pm. And with that I will stop recording.