 So there's this really interesting story about how there was a tsunami and the U.S. sent like this team of like top-notch traumatologists and therapists over to help the people because surely they would be traumatized and all have raging PTSD because that's a really big disaster. None of them suffered from the symptoms and all of these like, I am American and I am here to help, people were confounded, like you don't need it. And the reason that those people did not suffer from PTSD is because trauma is not defined by the events. It's defined by how are we held in the aftermath? Are we supported? Are we in a culture that values cooperation and collaboration and connection and compassion and all the C words that are good. We do not here. And so in that particular place where the trauma therapists were sent, they got each other. They had each other's children. They had each other's backs. They were bringing each other food and as a community, they didn't suffer from massive PTSD.