 Yeah, why should you yeah, good for the environment you care about freedom do you care about other others other than yourself? Yeah, I feel bad. What's wrong with the milk though? What's wrong with milk? I Don't know well who's milk for What what what type of car What type of cow drinks milk the baby the baby does yeah, you still drink milk. Yeah, when you stop drinking your mother's milk Younger when you're about three or four. So why are you still drinking mother's milk? Oh Because to grow to grow yeah, you look bigger than me, dude Well, if you stop drinking your mother's breast milk, what makes you think you need to drink breast milk from another species of animals? They give it to us. I told you to yeah, do you do everything they tell you to? So who first gave you the dairy milk? I don't know well when you first drank it who gave it to your parents probably and who first gave it to them The milk people they they told them, you know milk's good for your bones And maybe she drink milk and everyone just drinks it But would you I like swimming? Do you like so many people like swimming? But there's about 30 other different milks other than the one that comes from the boob of a cow So why don't people just drink? I Don't know because they've been taught that milk's healthy or they need it for strong bones, which is all just You know you can have strong bands eggs what what if like you make if you have chickens and you make your own eggs Let me just tell you something about dairy those bobby casts and and the cast are taken away from their mothers The bobby casts are all killed you probably know that The female cast get you know when they're about a year old they get a fish shoved inside of their anus and they get full Seaman so they're raped and then they're impregnated and then they had their children stolen off them the cycle repeats And they get put in a slaughterhouse when they can't produce milk for you anymore But with eggs it's the same thing. It's just it's basically slavery all these egg laying hens What if you have your own eggs? Do you where do you get your eggs from? No, I don't but I'm saying like Well, why don't you go vegan first and then we can talk about backyard eggs? Would you do that because do you still eat chicken beef bacon and non backyard eggs and where all animal products? What do you see do you still drink dairy milk? Yeah, yeah, but if you did go vegan would you is it fine? We can talk about it hypothetically, but it doesn't really apply to you because you're still consuming all these other I wouldn't because I don't see it think eggs of food They come out of a chicken's butt, and I don't think egg chickens are here to serve us and give us products but I know like another one vegan what makes you think an egg is food They give it to us. I don't know because they told you that that's just how society makes it Yeah, you're conditioned and you think it's cultural But like you don't have backyard chickens No, yeah, you eat all your food. Yeah, I've got no friends probably places like this Yeah, one of my friends is vegan kind of like she doesn't I think I don't know if she's vegan But she's like vegetarian and she has her own like eggs. She has chickens in it Yeah, well, I don't think using chickens as products is vegan. So I don't think she's vegan But yeah, the vegans are like a mindset towards animals. They're not here for us to use and exploit Yeah, I know it's pretty horrible In year four I learned about it like I we have to do like I did animal cruelty. It's really horrible like this stuff I do that's why I still you should be a consumer. I don't know how do you put cruelty in your stomach? That's true. You know, you got your stomachs full of you know, murdered animals how protein? How do you get it? Plant where does protein originally come from? I don't know Maybe how where did the animal get the protein from the grass? So where does protein originally come from? You can have a guess Plants done it All protein originally comes from plants. So why do we have to filter it through an animal that was stabbed in the throat? So why do we have to kill someone to get protein? Would you kill a dog to get protein? Why not? Well, pink can't be a pet. Yeah, cuz they're like Yeah, I'm just saying like does that change the morality of stabbing animals if one animal's a pet and one animal isn't Do you think stabbing a pet? No, it's horrible. It's different for the animal like that one. Yeah, technically not But like people make it seem like it would do this way if you were my friend and you got stabbed in the throat That would be bad for you if someone wasn't my friend and they got stabbed in the throat That would be just as bad for them Yeah, but for me it would be worse because you're my friend But that's got nothing to do with the justice of the individual being stabbed So just because a dog is your pet and a pig isn't they both want to live just the same Why do you apply a different set of morality to Dogs and not to these other animals. So you say our dogs deserve moral treatment if you kick a dog That's bad, but you pay for animals to be butchered because they can eat them. I don't know because what? No society Told you so What they do is they teach you something called speciesism where some Animals matter morally some don't humans have supremacy over all other animals Other animals don't matter we can do what we want to them enslave them kill them stab them put them in Gas chambers chop them up into pieces eat their bodies and laugh about it But dogs if you did that to dogs, you wouldn't be laughing people would be laughing at us You know they'd be on our team. They'll be on team. They're the same pretty much Well in the ways in the ways that matter they're different in the ways that matter They're sentient meaning they had their own subjective experience of reality. They want to live they avoid pain and suffering they Want to be loved cared for What about honey? Yeah, honey is bad too for many reasons Because how many other sugars do you have in this in the store you walk into that? I'll take you to Woolworth's right now. How many other sugars do you have to choose from? About 40 yeah syrups. Yeah maple syrup I'm yeah, so and how many sugars do the bees have I Don't know Well, they have well they have one and tiny and we still want to take that from them But did they have a centium other bees are sentient. Yeah Do they have Well, yeah, the thing is insects are still insects still matter morally Right the thing is when you directly when you take a bunch of insects and you breathe them And you you use them for your own profit. That's a problem But if you're accidentally if you're walking around and you know step on an ant or something It's not it's an accident accidents happen Don't they when you take a bunch of bees and you use them for a purpose and you clip the they clip the queen bees wings off So she can't move she's stuck there right there and slaving these animals for their What's theirs? They're one source of food and you go into Woolworth's and you've got plant food sweetness So yeah We're greedy humans are greedy. Yeah, we want everything we take it we We tear everything off them their bones their skin What do you think is killing fish bad still? Killing fish is bad. Well, do you think killing is bad? Yeah Well, let's just put a scenario here put a scenario where it wouldn't be bad Well, it would be an unfortunate situation, but if someone was trying to kill you or a family member It would be okay to defend yourself and if you had to kill someone too. Yeah, do you think a fish has ever harmed you? Or is it has a pig ever harmed you? So why do we why do human beings hate them so much to put them in these places? What have they ever done wrong to us? They've done nothing wrong to us and everyone's make money And people are taught that their food. Yeah, but you reckon everyone can go vegan That's it it's irrelevant what everyone does do you think everyone's stop gonna gonna stop abusing their wife or abusing children Do you think everyone's gonna stop abusing children? But you don't abuse children. Do you why you're never gonna stop it bad? You never gonna stop it? So why don't you why did you just exactly make a change? Yeah Like to say if you're gonna say say not everyone's gonna go vegan straight away. So why should I not? Everyone's gonna stop killing each other in war either. You don't go around killing people. Do you? You think it's you think it's immoral? Yeah, that's true so, but Is the end goal to make everyone go vegan? Well if everyone yeah, of course it is of course it is But you know it's like kind of hard because ever we're changing the world right now the big moves growing just in the last two years Magnitudes more than what it once was Yeah, it's kind of true But like huge dude. Yeah, it's growing huge People are working it out man because the evidence is right there And the vegan foods are actually that bad What do you mean it's excellent? Yeah, some of it's shit, but some of your food shit, too Guaranteed you got a crap burger in your life Yeah, but you think like you're actually eating actual shit because the animals shit all over themselves when they're in slaughterhouse And if you've been to a slaughterhouse and watch people say Yeah, well you can do something about it's really easy so grab soy milk over dairy milk Stop eating chickens periods and get off the slaughterhouse food You can make a huge difference. How many animals do you reckon you'll save over the course of your life? You think you had a hundred animals over the course of your life. What about chickens and fish and oh, that's true chickens a beak like small I'm not sure But would they even one let's just say you save one life You think it's worth it to save you know someone's life is their entire existence You only get one don't you? If you stop eating them they'll stop reading them Yeah But don't what I don't understand if someone goes vegan this bit the lots of people like the farmers and stuff They don't know that just stop reading them. I mean they will stop reading them because they listen to demand People don't sell products unless there's a demand for it. Do they you're not going to go out and sell t-shirts If you're not selling any what are you going to do you're gonna stop selling t-shirts, aren't you? Yeah, so they're gonna stop selling corpses when you stop eating body parts. Yeah This is called challenge 22 if you can't do that for 22 days, mate, then I really Don't have a good view of your willpower. It's 22 days out of your entire life. Hello. How old are you? 15 Yeah, what is it what is it for like just going vegan for 20 days? Yeah, it's free on Facebook. They give you a bit of guidance You're asking me I have to do it like a debate because we ask what we do debate in Brutec and I was the um I was pro and on me like pro vegan and then the others were Pro me you were eating me at the time. Yeah, but we won you were fighting a debate Yeah, you're eating the thing that you're fighting against. Yeah That's good because it makes makes a lot of sense He actually kind of annoyed me that points was kind of stupid like protein like that is this stupid isn't it? Because you can just get it from others like Don't you of course you can yeah, and then they said all protein comes from plants all of it Yeah, and then they also said how like it's how it's like yummy Best excuse it tastes good dog meat tastes good to with the right seasoning Human flesh would taste good to with the right seasoning Wouldn't be moral though. There's protein in your flesh is iron in your flesh There's probably some calcium in your bones. Would I kill you to get your calcium iron and protein? No, I wouldn't The thing is most food is fortified B12 is probably the thing that you have to worry about the most but everyone does But they inject it into the animals people eat, you know, so I just eat fortified food So all food all basically store-bought cereals and stuff are fortified with vitamins and B12 is one of them and I put a lot of nutritional yeast on my food. It's full of B12 But you know this is just precautionary the government put B12 in everything even non-vegans food It's just precautionary. It's something that we need the reason it doesn't exist in why don't they put it in water? Why don't they put it in water because it can't live in water because it's chlorinated That's why they have to supplement elsewhere because the water's been chlorinated fluoridated And it kills the B12 the foods washed sanitize so it kills the B12. It comes naturally from the dirt Well, it's getting bigger isn't it? You know it's getting is multiplying like exponentially every month What are you waiting for mate? Yeah, it's good. I would do this. What's it what do you what I want you to do is watch dominion from start to end Okay, I think ask us and when you're watching it. Just go okay. They taste good Okay protein and just like think of all your excuses that you have. Yeah. Oh, I can't be bothered watch those animals Yeah, that's what that's what we did in conspiracy because we did it for our debate And then we you have to like look at the other person's debating Yeah, and then you just go through like all the things you can like say back to it Like, you know what I mean like all the points that override Yeah, that they may eat his points in the face of what the animals are going through those excuses seem like You know insanity Yeah But it's good talking to you man