 Welcome back to the breakfast on Plasti via Africa time for us to check out the front pages of the national dailies as usual will bring you up to speed with what's making the rounds across bar and We do have a guest will join us shortly a demola akim Bola We'll be joining us via zoom to make sense of all of the headlines. I sort of with the leadership newspaper this morning Let's check out what the leadership gots to say on the front page of the leadership newspaper You have ten months after federal government yet to release ten billion Narrow for vaccine production That's on page four Government paying lip service to local vaccine production. It's a rider you find and also you have health ministry keeps moon Pharmacist the cry impact of forex on CBN intervention fund We're ready to work with Fama sector for local drug production Who's single of that on page four of the leadership newspaper? You also find a federal government bulls 8.29 trillionaire from 12.9 trillionaire pension fund Crowds out private sector that's also in page seven of the leadership newspaper Play to assembly crisis impeach speaker ten others arrested It's on page seven and you have scores trapped seven confirmed dead as 21 story Story building collapses in Lagos You find all of the information on page four of the leadership newspaper Oddly senators protests IGP others pro Article PDP leaders in unnumber ahead of the elections all of that and page 11 of the leadership newspaper and you also find a me debunks occupation occupation mission in southeast That's also following that video and some of the news making the rounds Okay, so there's also a picture showing the Building that collapsed in Ikui here and you could see victims and everyone rescue The rescue mission ongoing as well all of that on the leadership newspaper this morning all right on the daily trust newspapers Big one there says outrage agony as death toll hits 20 many still trapped It says another two-story caves in I think that's I don't remember what exact location that was also in Lagos yesterday Lawyer to sue government seeks compensation for victims families How I escaped from collapsed buildings as a laborer and experts blame Lagos for negligence We can also find on the daily trust NNPC dismisses first Cassidy fears says 1.7 billion liters in store APC a bar and party says let me do we've given birth to trip triplets says a ruling party Okay Still on the daily trust this morning families now rate or deals as kidnappers adopt abduct her to professors and others at the University of Abuja Now Andrea needs 615 trillion Naira to bridge infrastructure gap in 10 years says Bwari Canada goes digital as NPC launches DSO and an umbrella governorship APC apgar PDP and others sign piece packed today Those are the big ones on the daily trust newspapers away from the daily trust newspaper Let's check out the daily independent newspaper this morning Worker's flay contributory pension scheme It's a board caption on the daily independence quite different from what you have on the leadership newspaper You have real accumulated on remitted deductions. That's the first rider once defined benefit scheme Reign stated Nigeria to reach net zero emissions by 2060 that's what the president is quoted to say just as he attends that summit in Glasgow says country will maintain gas-based energy transition and You find another sad one here. How far you near Buja lecturers children were abducted It's on page seven PDP says attack on the Bwari's security very shocking Nigeria needs 1.5 trillion dollars in 10 years to bridge infrastructure gap That's what the president is quoted to say on page 29 and EFCC releases obi kubana Details on page 29. You find a number of guba candidates acts federal government to free canoe Want INEC security agencies to be fair and just ahead of the elections on the 6th of November death toll in collapse 21 story building in Lagos rises to 20 You also find out that the governor suspends the GM Find all of the information on page or about page four if I'm not mistaken now Just before we move away from the daily independence another caption says justice oddily residents Supreme Court says invasion impunity taken too far Siege appeared like mission to kill Mame her that's what you find underneath the board caption and body of sand confirms or Confronced a gf. That's the attorney general of the federation Malami and demands Investigation all of that on the daily independence. That's the much we can take on the daily independent newspaper this morning All right now to the punch newspapers It says the APC convention date shaky party battles crisis in 13 states Quarra rivers or shun abia factions and others await verdict on Congress's APC won't give this new car to a careless driver who will crush it Says the general secretary We wouldn't withdraw K court case challenging Congress's vile party members And also inadequate troops may delay 740 megawatts Zungeru Kashim Billa projects inauguration NMPC admits hitches at depot and Dismisses price hike rumors Iqoi building Lego suspense GM as death toll rises to 20 families protest Legos not aware of project designers withdraw says commissioner Also under the punch police sound tough plan locked down I nick confident of Saturday polls and that's a year on the number elections Makin day of Basque another governor's cell PDPs or zigbo the voters We can also find here as you seek sprayers as gunmen kidnapped to uni abuja professors and family members I'm what I come arrest herbalist and accomplice with coffin hosting dismembered co-ops Suspected insane woman throws two children into a well bodies missing and also investors reject 196 billion dollars planned investments in Nigeria or deletion prim court lampoons masterminds of raid says attack despicable and shameful Well, I think we'll probably just start the conversations with Talking about the co-e building collapse once again It says on the punch Legos suspense GM death toll rises to 20 families protest Legos state not aware of project designers Withdrawals as a commissioner also listen to the Deputy governor yesterday where he made mention that the narrative that the building was meant to be 15 story But was illegally then pushed to 21 story is false. It said the particular one that collapse had approval for 21 stories And so, you know it the narrative of you know that being a problem was was fake But of course he also went further further to say that they will still continue to investigate To figure out exactly what may have caused the building collapse because another interesting Development is the fact that you know the legos state government has constituted or set up a panel which constitutes or Professionals, you know you have members of this panel from different, you know professional bodies architects and Engineers and what have you just to investigate that but you're also still seeing that this is not also stopping internal investigation that has led to the suspension of the the general manager of That agency now another interesting fact for me I'm also questioning how that will be effective is the fact that the government is also saying yes in order to limit the frequency of collapse building in Lagos They have decided to launch, you know certificate or rebrand that launch set a rebrand of that launch certificate certificate of completion and Fitness so before You probably have a building at the end of the day. You should be issued that certificate of completion and fitness But how will these you know solve the problem? Does this solve the problem of using substandard materials in building at the end of the day? Will this solve the problem because if you look at it at the end of the day you find out that a lot of persons keep complaining That if you look at our markets, you find out that when people go to buy, you know products for building they get to buy a lot of Substandard products so who is even pushing this? Kind of material quality of material in our markets will this solve it is showing a certificate of completion and Fitness will it solve the problem of using substandard materials in building and all of that I don't know how far that would go, you know to Stop the issue of we having the frequency collapse of buildings and all of that I really don't know how far that will go but it's an effort However, we commend the legal state government for making an effort at least, you know, but you know what you know I said yesterday that This this particular incident is going to is going to open up a lot of a lot of conversations Not just with regards, you know building collapse now, but also with you know planning for Lagos and rescue for Lagos you cannot Charge 1.2 million dollars for an apartment regardless of what part of Lagos it is and You don't even have air rescue services. You don't have air ambulance services You don't have the same things that are not even available Like okay. Yes, I understand it's a key. I understand. Okay, but there's still some very very basic things That you would expect in an environment that is that expensive that don't even exist And that's one of the reasons you saw that it took two hours for The first major rescue, you know trucks to arrive at the scene that you know on the day that it that it happened on Sunday I believe No Monday. Sorry that it happened So it's it's a lot of conversations that need to be had at this point with regards to planning You know in different parts of Lagos some of these estates some of these high rise buildings some of these new, you know This view on that view on lagoon view on tortoise view and the rest of them that are springing up here and there There they're important conversations that need to be had with regards What are these things are really viable in the next 20 years if there are certain challenges that we will start to see Concerning these structures that we're not talking about now We might ignore it now because well, it's not such a pressing problem, you know But eventually it will be a problem. There's many of them There's a particular one that I wouldn't mention that is built on an area that was initially set up to be a like a drainage for for equaling I'm trying to be careful sad I mentioned any names But that's the next thing that is built on top, you know that area So these are certain things that we eventually would come into conversations. How how do we have just One road leading out in and out of a particular area And if there's an emergency you can't go out or you can come in, you know, I think that for real We are not even ready to have this conversation about how safe we want our environment to be The wreaks every day if you are on the road, not just leaguers, but let's stay with diggers because we're in leaguers You find out have you have you ever wondered what would happen where sometimes you find out who gives their approval for some of the Structures that we have erected. I mean you have a structure In between so you have maybe a house or a school in between and then you have a filling station Have you seen a gas station in between all of that? These are just disaster waiting to happen and Because before I'm thinking that you know as professionals and bodies as that's why you have government to ensure that we don't have Anarchy in the system and that there's law and that people behave in a certain way and that we plan our towns and cities And so there are areas where we should not give approval, you know for a building of some of these structures So you have you know like now and I'm very paranoid some on the road I'm looking at all of those tall buildings those high-rise buildings, and I'm wondering if it collapses I'm already looking at the height of it. Would it trickle down? Would it you know come to the road what will happen to those people who are driving? I mean what will happen to those pedestrians and all of that so it calls for a lot of concern We need to begin to pay attention, you know to Approval of spaces, you know plot of lands that we begin to approve for people to begin to erect buildings So that we protect ourselves if not, I mean it's like we're just a disaster waiting to happen You know at every single time and then we just you know it keeps happening and happening and then we're not doing anything to stop it That's no no we're not being proactive. We're not saying okay What happened in the last case I move had several cases of you know building collapse in in Ligas One would think that we probably would have learned people who have Been involved people involved in all of this should have been brought to book and all of that But every day I mean I had a conversation saying oh, it's one of those things I mean they are big boys that will handle it It would just be okay. It would just be okay And now we're talking about 20 persons who have lost their lives in the course of all of this and you know The figures are still counting. So it's really really sad I just think that you know as a government across the entire country and in Lagos state We need to begin to pay attention to the issue of town planning I really don't know how that's going to happen in Lagos because I mean It is what it is But for some of these communities or areas that you feel that are developing, you know Because you have developing areas one should be we should begin to make an example You know on how it should be and not continue in the mess that we're ready in well Developers are you know looking for more investors Every year there's more people looking for you know extra, you know billions of dollars that they can in you know invest in real estate And I'm the important thing You know for me is I hope that you know as we continue to pump in these billions of dollars into Lagos real estate Every year there is better conversations on safety and security and you know some of those Extras that seem to be left out, you know, when they they have this high-rise buildings You know that they want to charge five million dollars for for an apartment. I hope so Anyway, let's move away from from that. We very likely will come back to that by 8 a.m. This morning When we're speaking with Ibrahim Faryin lawyer who's a coordinator of NEMA to give updates on exactly what's going on over there and the rescue efforts that have so far Been being done so far There's also other stories like on the punch newspapers this morning. It says here NNPC admits hitches at depots dismisses prize hike rumor I think it was also on the Daily Trust this morning where it's talking about forced capacity fears being dismissed by the NNPC It says it has 1.7 billion liters in store. I mentioned it yesterday that there were certain places I think in Abuja Nassar or a couple of the states that seem to be having forced capacity You know price Flotrations basically and so people were starting to experience some scarcity I'm hoping that it doesn't get to develop into something That we eventually deal with again this Christmas because I remember that's one of the things that they used to brag about with the current administration that Since they came into power. There's not been forced capacity every Christmas, which is something you can say. Okay. Yes, let's get that to them It doesn't even solve the problem, you know that we're faced with because we won't be talking about Failed scarcity and price increase if our refineries are functioning and we're refining our products by ourselves And we don't have to you know export it and then get to import it. It doesn't really make sense So I'm hoping that we get to a point where we address the issue once and for all. Let's get the refineries working I'm wondering if it's rocket science Because it really doesn't make sense. So for me. Yes, we don't get to experience What's it called again failed scarcity during the festive period and all of that but really we experience first Scarcity after the festive period or the price go up What's it talking about the fact that prices might just also jump up and all of that? So for me, it's getting to the basics of the real problem and all of us will be fine at the end of the day But of course we can't solve the problem I'm sure because some quota you have interest to the left and to the right. So why should we have our refineries working? Now I try is the only contrary it and I don't know if I don't know the people who've been in asshole rock in the last couple of years ever really think of this thing and ask them and pinch themselves to be To be sure that they are They're not Asleep We have all the mineral resources here, I mean, I did you I need you to understand this. No, I do Go in the ground here And we get out crude oil We load them on ships and take them to another country entirely to refine and Then bring back to Nigeria. It doesn't make any sense It's a really hilarious thing To imagine and the same thing with gas That that we will be at this level where you know people are talking about a cylinder of gases 8,300 8,500 naira and I'm sure that by Christmas will probably buy gas for 10,000 naira if not Yes, and I'm expecting that that's what will happen It makes absolutely no sense that this is where we are and we've gone to a stage where as a country We are now waiting for a private refinery to finally kick off so that we will have some sense of refining in Nigeria, you know Was it not any part of this year we're talking about revamping You know the refinery one of the refineries and making it work because I have been asking I mean since I was fun And now gradually I'm getting very old. We're still talking about the fact that you know We have refineries that are not working and I keep asking why The refiner is not working. Why can't we refine our crude? Why do we have to go through the entire process? which is very stressful which doesn't really make sense which is very also expensive and We have to suffer for it when we have what it takes, you know to refine our own crude Yeah, so but at the end of the day you find that that the interest element would always be there and Until we're able to sort that out because it doesn't really interest me What credit should we be giving to people? We should be able to say at the end of the day this administration should be able to boast that You know at the end of this maybe eight years and all of that We were able to get our refineries functioning and that's a good thing that the issue of exporting our products and getting to import them You know, it's no longer You know is a thing of the past. So I don't think that we should continue to box, you know in that Story and that line of The NNPC says there's no for scarcity it says they have 1.7 billion liters in store And so no one should be afraid of a petroscarsity. I remember also Years ago, you know, and you know, that's why I started by talking about a years ago where once it's Christmas You know, there's somehow some way is petroscarsity that you cannot imagine and you can you can be I've been in petro cues that lasted two days You also know the scarcity could also usually it's created as man-made Yeah, and so people does begin to hurt products when it's that time And then you also have the fact that we have government bodies who should ensure that this doesn't happen But what is happening at the end of it? It's it's it's a corrupt system. It's not nobody Crude oil or petrol doesn't disappear when it's November all these things artificial. They've always been artificial scarcities They've always been man-made It's either somebody decides that this is the perfect time for us to go on strike or somehow some way, you know Petro marketers find some reason to make it scarce And you know, you know that but you see the petrol that used to be selling that eight seven Naira liter now start selling at 200 And people buy black market prices as high as 300 Naira liter 400 Naira liter and people buy and but that was a Regular Christmas event a couple of years ago But hasn't happened in the last couple of years, which is you know, something I guess we could As as basic as that is we can give the current administration credit for another thing, you know caption you find is the Anambra elections you have a number of cuba candidates That's on the daily independence asking federal government to release an empty canoe I know we talked about this earlier on and we're saying, you know, this is a case of I mean cases in court Of course, but whether or not the government should I'm saying I'm still of the opinion that government should find the way, you know to encourage have dialogue with stakeholders and Because some of the concerns that they have raised is the fact that they do not trust the judicial system or the process it feels like, you know government is going to Not going to be fair with this particular individual. That's an empty can in this case So I'm thinking that it's okay to sit back. It's a good thing that you have this candidate calling before And is it at this time? Are we now speaking up at this, you know, this minute few days to the election? Could he job also be that, you know, this candidate's want to use us to score Political points so that they can get votes eventually at the end of the day. How come prior to this time? We haven't had all of this conversation coming for especially from this candidate while we have any at this point in time Well, like you rightly pointed out Government to say, okay, yes, we're going to release the name the canoe It's a question that we do not know is a very sensitive one at that and the fingers are actually crossed But like we would always know that dialogue has always, you know, force and violence has never solved any problem I would still say that it's important that, you know, stakeholders come together and let's find, you know, a solution to it I don't expect anything to change with regards to the voting numbers between today and the 6th Whoever was meant to vote should have been ready to vote as early as October or Not it not over as it's August or September The people who had real interest in voting in the November elections were ready weeks ago, months ago I'm not sure that anything would change between now and the 6th today is the third already, I believe Not very much will change The voting numbers will not improve between now and the third. There's no miracle But voting numbers can actually decrease. Oh, yes, they can decrease Yes, they can decrease and and that is left for the government itself to ensure that they let the people of Anambra The electorate in Anambra understand that they are safe and they can come out and vote and it's important that they come out to vote The value of that particular vote, you know, cannot should not be, you know, underestimated it It's a very very that one vote is very very important And so we've had a mix of a cocktail rather of narratives concerning voted it from the IPOB Telling people that they shouldn't vote to those who are telling people that their votes don't count to those who are saying the votes count, you know, but You know, they will still steal the election somehow somewhere It's a cocktail of different narratives that have come, you know, surrounded voting, especially in the Southeast Sadly, this has gone on for so so so long that Not very much has done has, you know, come to counter these narratives and tell the people how important it is that they come out to vote You see number of registered, you know, persons at the election and then you get to see the comparison to those who have come out to vote It's very very sad And the Southeasterners themselves need to be I've continuously said it didn't back then when I was on radio That they themselves need to They need to be reawakened they need they need a lot of conversations to happen in the Southeast To let them know the importance of their vote That decision that day that you decide to stay at home and play football that decision would cost you the next eight years I'm also thinking that that's a you know, that's not something that's just limited to The Southeastern region. I mean it cuts across the entire country Well, it might just be predominantly in a particular region because I you know engaging with Nigerians and others on the daily basis you find people say, oh, we cannot vote I mean that narrative is still there because the people who would they know who they want to become The governor or the president so my word would never count. You already know what's going to happen But that's as a result of the fact that you know the institution over time I mean eye neck how credible have there been in the conduct of the elections? How far I mean all of the stakeholders involved in conducting our election So there's a trust deficit at the end of the day the people who have lost trust in government And we have bodies and agencies me. I'm thinking the ministry of information and orientation and what a view This is a time we constantly have to because for you to push out a particular narrative You have to put another one and so if that's the narrative there should be constant campaigns, you know However, you want to put it across social media and all of that the people have actually lost You know a lot of trust in the government in the system entirely And that's why every time you find that political apathy people just say, okay Yes, we go to register but at the end of the day you find that that people don't really turn out to vote I bet it's not my business But the point is for every time you don't vote you also do not have the right to you know to begin to question What's going on in government because you never you know involved you were never involved You know in the entire process of electioneering and it's also you denying yourself of the right until we begin to understand that We as you know the electorate We do have the powers and power is in our hands when you go out It's very powerful the votes count and for every time you go out to count It closes because if you have more persons turning out during the election The possibility of rigging the election is very slim That's it But we the people do not seem to understand that that's the dynamics that usually play out So you constantly feel like okay. We can't go out because if you already know what you're going to they're going to rig the system Oh, it's never going to work and you stay back you give room for elections to be rigged Yeah Now I've said it before you know that as much as Nigerians love to complain. They are so very To some extent they're also very very politically politically lazy No, I think I'm thinking that there's some improvement. There's some improvement We're going somewhere. I mean if you want to go back way back the some level of improvement and awareness It's not up to a hundred percent. We're not close, but I'm thinking that we should give them some thumbs up including yourself There's improvement. No doubt, you know, and of course if you've looked at the Figures of online registration And include also the figures of people who have also been able to register for In political parties in the last one year you see some improvement I give them that doesn't take away the fact that Nigerians are politically lazy And the reason I say this is it's not because You know, they they're not enough avenues. Yes, I understand, you know, and I've said it over and over I understand the complaints and the concerns that people have with the leadership recruitment process in Nigeria And it itself has so many flaws that they've not even been able to fix those flaws and it makes more and more people less interested in the whole process of Getting a permanent voters go temporary voters go whichever one it is and it itself makes it so stressful That you don't even bother I remember the day that I got my My pvc. I remember, you know, how stressful it was that they're standing in the sun in Inuku for hours Just to get a temporary voters card eventually then got the pvc So that that on that level alone is so much stressed that every Nigerian will say There's really no need. I would rather just be at home and rest Aside that part, you know, and and and I understand, you know, that it's it's it's a difficult process But if we're serious about it, we should be able to ensure that we get our cards, you know And it's one thing that I've said to young Nigerians In the build up to 2023. Yes, you may not like the process You may, you know, think that it is it's too much stress and you're not even interested But if you really want to make a change you would sacrifice those hours you will sacrifice You know those days to ensure that you get that voters card and you use it when it's time for the for the elections I'm hoping that, you know, uh, we would also look at Introducing technology when we talk about technology now when in 2015 when we had the introduction of you know Some parts I'll call it a part of technology in administering that election. That's a smart card reader It's really really fun. It feels like we're just jumping the gun at the end of the Why don't we start from the beginning like you mentioned? Yeah, I neck already. That's the process That's the pre process before the elections. And so before You know, we get to the election proper in the administration at the office level Why do we still have to be very, um, manual? How I can people just, you know, get registered and that's what I'm referring to the comfort of your houses And then we just were already away from that was you You know, having to deal with the manual way of doing things over and over again without applying technology And then we now because I know what you're talking about. I mean, you would have to queue. You would have to push yourself I'm glad there was nothing like Ebola. What's it called again? Coronavirus at that time because it would have really really really been very deadly But one would expect that before we begin to say, yes, we're using the smart card reader I neck itself should be able to, you know, have technology You know entirely deployed or used in administering High activities makes a whole lot easier It makes a whole lot easier So people don't have to, you know, just be everywhere and trying to stress and that can be very discouraging and for some I feel we we spend too much time before each election And eventually get eight months to the election and start rushing like like wild animals You have four years between 2015 to 2019 you have another four years between 2019 and 2023 There's enough time for INEC to have budgeted for it to have, you know, made arrangements and okay This is what we're going to be doing this year This is number of people that want trying to get registered in a country that claims to have 200 million people You should at least have 120 million people registered It only makes sense somehow some way. Okay. Well adult, you know population youth but The youth population in Nigeria, INEC should at least have 50 percent of that population registered at least Now you remember that in 2015 some of the concerns that we raised about that election or Due to the introduction of that technology was the fact that you know The functionality of the smart card reader was questioned and that's because I was in a space at a particular time where The the staff the staff that were trained for that particular people's few days before the election That were changed for no reason That you can explain so at the end of the day you find out that this device is you need to understand How the work and usually with your device when you get it you always have this cover So you need to take it off the first layer that that would be the word and so Some of these persons who were saddled with the responsibility of mining this equipment did not understand, you know, how this Equipment work and so it became You know serious issues so people would go to you know have the atoms on and it would not reflect because You haven't taken the first layer and that's because you know those who were really trained So the corruption in the system, I mean it's encompassing the issues are too many But until we begin to address the issues, you know from the root we we you know, we can never get that result that we so desire It would take a while It would it would take a while But it it it it would be a lot faster if we leave in a country if we have political will as a country It shouldn't be rocket science to get these things done or to get these things sorted um If we have you know the political will to to tell iNEC that this is what your target is This is what your mandate is between now and the next two years or next three years This is the funding that we're releasing for iNEC to ensure that these things are done. It's not rocket science Is we just don't ever do these things um There are different phases and it's just to remind everyone that the online registration process is still ongoing Go get yourself a pvc get yourself registered if you already have a voter's card and you like to change Mayday of voting location or whatnot You can do all of that on the platform on the iNEC platform. It's pretty simple Go online set for it and ensure that you get it done Another thing is the interest in political parties in Nigeria You know and the fact that and this is what I feel not everybody would be a politician But I think that there should be some level of interest with every single person should have in a political party And that's the reason I said that a lot of Nigerians are politically lazy. We'd love to complain We love to we can complain all day and all night But when it's time to actually do what is necessary or to get himself involved We are quick to run back to those excuses of oh, they already know who they are going to they are going to put there Or oh, you know political parties are scams It's laziness. It is simply laziness that Nigerians Hold on to those excuses so hard without even trying Ask the avid Nigerian youth Young Nigerian, I understand that yes these people may have done absolutely nothing for you and that's why you do not know Who they are but actually avid Nigerian Who's the person representing you in the national assembly or who's the person representing your You know local government area in your state house of assembly Who is your deputy governor those those very very very basic questions There's I'm very sure if you walk around now and ask the next 50 young people who the senate president is They don't know you know that's even too far. I mean let's even start with the council You know the council or the word chairman or you know the chairman of your local government You're very correct. It becomes very difficult and and that's what we're saying There's no way we're going to you don't get an agenda we want if we don't get involved We need to get involved you might necessarily not become the president or the governor or whatever But you need to also get involved and it brings me back to the issue of you know having The fact that you have two dominant political parties and the fact that yes We always say oh we need a thought force and whether the thought force Whether the thought force would actually come through or not I think the young the young well anyway, there's there's time for for whoever that needs to set up a tech force to Currently take advantage of Nigeria's young population. There is there is enough time for that currently anyway, we would Take a short break and when we come back we're going to go straight into our first major discussion for today We're speaking with ibrahim farin loye the coordinator of nema to give us updates on exactly what is going on in Iqoyi Rescue efforts 20 people confirmed dead so far at about nine of them hospitalized We'll get more of those details after this break