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is in the building y'all stop the damn press you better know it man this guy right here man never seen a cad man so fly man in these videos I was watching this nigga video I said man this nigga I don't know I don't got mesmerized with this here man this nigga kicking it bro I was like like watching a movie I had never checked into you till after this second time when I was like I don't I won't watch nothing until I'm just I'm about to interview you this nigga you be working yeah I try to do a little more than just your average you know a bunch of niggas standing in front of you know camera point guns and I don't know you fly you know you fly man you cinematic shit you know I'm saying I like I said when I've seen it I think back I think back to the snoop dogs and and you know what I mean and the fabulous dramatics you know it had that type of feel when I would see one in a week I'm like this nigga fly you tell me how it is yeah that's my joint that messes me up bro I ain't even see it coming man I got a movie to that thank you so much for coming on the show man thank you for having me man what you got for him I know mr. maker like to start out we don't let you just start like that nigga you ain't for to just give it a kick it like that take it back because I like to get to know the people the person that's sitting right here not the artist not anything I say you do I want to know as a child growing up where you from I want to know about your parents I want to know it all so go ahead where are you from I grew up when I was born in Pensacola Florida okay that's where I want to go cuz that's where the beach is eight hours away yeah yeah it's a little over there okay it's about eight the beaches are pretty right there maybe 12 something like that yeah the beaches are really pretty on one of the Jaws movies out there yeah oh should I be scared it was it was it was it was all fake but the it's all you know that spring break time between that Panama that's the time I don't want to go it's spring no you it's too crowded but it's pretty okay I was a baby though I don't remember none yeah that's what I was about to say I was a kid I was like now I wasn't even kid I was a baby my dad was in the military oh you another military babe yeah but I grew up in Galveston Texas they just love the beaches is everywhere close to where the beach is that's where my family so where you from my mom she from Galveston oh she from also that's why y'all came up here with so did your mom and dad split up oh yeah they would I never known them to be together really and they was married I believe for about eight years what time I was born I don't remember them are you the only child I got older sister okay you the baby I'm the middle kid in the middle younger brother okay okay and so when you mom moved out back here to Galveston did your dad come with her out here or no where did he stay in he was on the west coast doing this thing okay did you get to see him oh every now and then talk to him through life every now and then okay so he didn't take that much impact in your life then no not not a lot not until I got older once I got older you know we kind of you know got back together and started you know trying to kick it again and but as a kid now did you feel like you're missing that male presence when you were a kid growing up a little bit but you know I had uncles I had an uncle that will come pick me up every Saturday I had to go out to work cut the grass that's real pick pecans in his yard I was on the roof I was paying whatever he needed me to do I had to do that every Saturday so and then you know my family was a lot of girls so he definitely didn't want me hanging with the women all weekend yeah he come I had to go hang with my uncles and your younger brother went to he did once he came but my younger was like 13 years oh okay he's from my stepdad okay my mom got remarried okay so he didn't get it as rough as I got the jeans that back it along yeah we school okay that's good so after you so what was it like growing up in Galveston you have to tell a nigga you have to tell a nigga you know I did that before you ever had one of the moments I broke my leg I don't see that now see my real dad around you know it get like that especially once I got a teenager you know we had you know you know I just felt like you go I just remember I remember a time I should be like telling my mama like man why is he talking to me I'm talking to you why is he even in our conversation you know that's real that's real that nigga like Melvin on baby boy you know Melvin say I try to be a good nigga Melvin said I did a dime man you see you ain't no killer like me Jody yeah that's the real tough look that hit home for a lot of niggas man I remember you know like I had issues with my dad my step dad I didn't like no nigga coming around like that man and you live as old nigga that really was just old nigga that just come around cuz you know it was a good we were getting the section eight you know I'm saying am I right like yeah you had to pay but like you know rent was about a 30 40 dollar league we you know and it wasn't on him yeah yeah that nigga didn't come around somebody just coming out of jail prison and needed somewhere to stay yeah yeah yeah that's where it be it was different my stepdad you know we was in the projects so when my stepdad came you know we got the house oh that was it I got my own room ooh I got Jordan ooh so it was you know it was some perks you didn't understand but you know we just really wasn't it did you feel bad about it like after you got older you knew he was a good man you like damn yeah of course that's what that's what I'm telling you not like when I was a kid I ain't think about yeah I ain't give them a shit yeah he's still living a yeah yeah my dad pass yeah you still you rock out with him every now and then yeah he recently just had surgery he had one his legs amputated diabetes I knew it yeah yeah that's one thing I can't stand about kids they don't ever think about nobody's but themselves when you're a kid that's on it that's only that's why I always say until you put yourself in their position and get older where you have your own family and whatever you like how did they do this manage all of this stuff and still functioning with a smile or whatever and made it look so effortless you know what I mean you won't appreciate your top yeah exactly so man you know you you got this thing called pimp on the back of your name the pimp you know that's the part we about to talk about when it you know I had pimp and Ken on it a day shout out I'll be I said again I am a boy pimp and Ken just was on we had pimp and Caprice pimp and Caprice that you got a song him like we've had a few of you guys on here nobody want to break down the pimpin though I mean you know my boy he broke down a little bit you know pimp can you break down a little bit every time you break down the pimpin for me like if you're gonna really get out on boss talk 101 and they tell me about how was it when you first decided I'm a jump into the game and how old were you and who introduced it to you I was maybe I consider myself kind of like a leg bloom I was like 26 oh you were 26 yeah I went 17 you know you know 16 and I like that you know I'm saying I was like 26 because you know I was where I was at with this shit everybody in my neighborhood niggas wanted to be drug dealers I came on you know early 90s late 80s early 90s niggas wanted to sell weed sell crack what no pimps I didn't see no pimps you know I'm saying as a you know in high school junior high you know I didn't see no pimping I went to Preview I went to college for a year and when I was in Houston we went to a strip club in Houston and I think we seen some pimps in Houston I was like my first little whoa but I still wouldn't just you know turn on we still was in the doing check licks selling like I said selling drugs but I was the worst drug dealer you ever wanted me why what did you do wrong I don't know that's the thing man I never made a thousand dollars and that one I'm saying how long did you do it for I probably made a thousand dollars all at one time but I'm just saying like in one night you know how niggas make thousand out two thousand like I just couldn't make the money like that and at one point I had I had everything but you know I got weed I'm smoking it you know I got a little cocaine my little white girl she sniffing it up that's why he couldn't make the money you know I'm saying we bought it and shit you know and you know I just I just for that just wasn't my shit you know I'm saying but that's what everybody around me was doing you know I'm saying I didn't really see no pimps up until you know I went to North Dallas one day we went to the I went to a strip club and shit it was it was just it was it was on and then you know I it was crazy I got a partner you know that baby we were you know I was a white you yeah knowing you lipstick oh I was I was one of you was out right now he on the track he over there by pandora and it was going down and we in the club we leaving at this like a two in the morning we leaving and behind pandora behind lipstick it's going down behind him I'm talking about they walk in is everything is rocking the track only yeah so that's you know that's what kind of when I first saw you know other than just being on TV you know I'm saying type shit and this was like like I say early 2000s you know I'm saying and so I've had a partner of mine that I knew through chief because like I say me in chief being cool for a long time he was already kind of matching in the part of my name pretty pretty black I came across a little female that was already pretty you know and does it in it you know I'm saying so I call pretty black he kind of laced me up this what you need to do you need to go get your phone got a lot back then they had a lot of data thing called any and uh oh damn the observer magazine and things like that where they were advertised the girl yeah yeah I remember them yeah yeah yeah he told me something about the strip club yeah so he told me how to go down there put the girl we get the phone it was on and popping I'm saying give her the phone it's gonna rain you know I'm saying so that's kind of how I got started you know I'm saying it's eventually led to me being who was the first one I mean yeah that girl was the first one yeah but yeah yeah you white girl yeah now that was that was actually a black girl really yeah but the first one that actually gave me some real money was yeah yeah but the black girl how long did you keep it for because she wasn't making that much money like the white girl that first one maybe you know she didn't last that long yeah I quit because I really didn't know what I was doing too I had it one time this was a long time ago and I had a man and she you know she worked at the strip club man and I had a man and she killed my pimping doll she was hard headed you know I couldn't make any money off of not really not like that you know I'm like I was better at selling drugs than pimping and we were backwards you gotta be firm man she was hard headed I couldn't figure it out you know I'm saying shout out to pimpology the book it didn't help me I was trying to figure this track thing out it was confusing and then these the strip club save them so when you dropping off a strip club they really they halfway in halfway out you know I'm saying you know it's different now because when I first came in the game it's like if you had girls in a strip club they feel like you weren't doing a pimping see what I'm saying you had to have you know your business had to be down on the street walking right you know I'm saying another to be accepted by your peers you know I'm saying so but now it's you know it's kind of different how did you get the name though Rollo the Pimp did you change it today yeah I mean I did that once I started doing music I was always know my Rollo money I put the Pimp on it simply because when you Google or put in Rollo the Pimp on or iTunes or anything like that when you put a Rollo it's a hundred of them that's gonna pop up when you put a Rollo the Pimp you don't know the one popping up on the Instagram or Google anything you put in Rollo T.H.A. the Pimp I'm the only one pop up so I really I basically did that to kind of separate myself from everyone else once I started doing music I want to know so with these girls which one is better to handle the white girls or the black girls what you didn't hear the Pimp again song the white girl is the black girl the white girl gonna get it get it get it the black girl is not gonna be with it that's the sound that's just a song yeah that's just sound good Pimp again that song is what I thought Pimp was about it's not about the white bitch it's about the right bitch oh okay they were saying that she could be black white Chinese Mexican they all can be a fool I don't you know I'm saying I don't have white women act just as crazy as a black woman you know what I'm saying and you know I don't have black women that act as like you would think a white woman would act you know what I'm saying so I don't see any roles reverse what I'm saying it just depends on how they was you know what type of environment that was raised how did because I don't know a lot I remember I can't get out of line over here but I remember one point where I think it holds as they say became independent. So to say what no Pimp because I think that I remember when I don't know what they call them there were more high-class high class high class high class high class were more high-class hoes. Escores. Escores, that's the word I was looking for. I don't think escores need no pimp. Escores, they do their thing on their own and they weren't considered as a prostitute or none of that because they, you know. Well, a lot of the escort services are owned by pimps. Pimps. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? So the girls are attracted to girls. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of times you'll see these escort service and the girls will be the face of everything. You know what I'm saying? But they not actually running behind the scenes and things like that. It's a lot of times it's a man that's running. I got several partners of mine that had escores services to this day in Vegas. But the female is, she's checking the girls. She's running everything so on the outside, looking in, you may think that that's her service. But now he's the one that's behind this. The puppet master. Female pimps? Yeah, ma'am, ain't they got maddened? I mean, it is, but I mean, I've known some girls, I don't, there's no female pimps, but it's a maddened. Why not? I mean, because I just don't think it's a maddened. Why was it? It's a maddened. And then I'm not raised up that maddened thing. Yeah, but you know, it's a maddened thing. You say it's a maddened woman can't be a pimp. I don't think so. Why? I mean, because I feel like if I offer, if it's a price, she got a price. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? A pimp ain't gonna sell itself. You know what I'm saying? But some women who might not wanna sell themselves. But it's probably, it's a price. It may be a million dollars. It may be 30 million. It's a price. It may be a hundred million. But it's a price. But it's a price. Damn. You know what I'm saying? So I always feel like. Damn it. And some men, I'm not gonna sell themselves. No, hell no, ain't no price. Not no real pimp. Not no real pimp. Now some funny guys might do it. You know what I'm saying? But not a real pimp. So let me, let me. I had one more question. What? In today's industry, the way how, are, how can I say this? Are pimps, pimps, both men and women? That's another, that's what I'm saying. Not a real pimp. I'm just, because you know, in today's time you have a lot of that sort of stuff that's doing that. Okay, that's why I was wondering. But he ain't stormed down, is he? But he not really. He cut from a different cloth. Okay, I'm just checking. That ain't silk, that's burlap. You know, that's, that's something else. I don't know what that is. But that, you know, that go on. You know what I'm saying? Because I've heard of that. I was just wondering, because you know that industry is out there. So that's why I was like, you know, who is doing it? But yeah, but yeah, ain't no, ain't no. You ever get peeled for your bitch, man? What? That's when I thought I was, that's what made me think I was really in the game. I didn't think nobody knew who I was. And what happened? And then somebody called, you know, my little female I had, and she wouldn't give me $37 a day anyway. You know what I'm saying at the time, but that was my game. You know what I'm saying? What? And so she, you know, she came up. You know, she then, you know, I went to the little spot where I used to pick up. She wasn't us. I'm like, oh my God, damn. Okay, so I, you know, I was waiting there for a little minute. So I go on by my business. Later on I get a phone call. I don't know what the cat name is, but he introduced himself, told me who he was, and told me that he had got the bitch and woo woo woo. So, you know, I was, I had mixed emotions. I was like, damn. You know what I'm saying? Cause that was the only thing I had going at the time. But then once I hung up the phone, you know, I was, you know, I thought about it differently. Like, damn, he called me. I'm like, yeah, you know, he called me and he was like, that's a big, big, big, big, big. So I just had to go out and give them a note. Is that a protocol? For them to call you? Because that same thing Pimpin' Ken said. Yeah, yeah. When they got that. I mean, because, you know, if you got a girl out there, you know, at, you know, in a real pee, you know, you're concerned about your woman. You know what I'm saying? You're concerned about her whereabouts and what she's doing and all that. It ain't, you know, we ain't trying to, you know, consider what the TV and what these movies might say. You know what I'm saying? We, we care about our people. So when they not answering the phone and they've been out here and we know what this job consists of, all kinds of weirdos and all kinds of crazy shit going on. So if she's supposed to call you every hour, every two hours, whatever it is, when that phone call don't happen, you start getting worried. The first thing you start thinking, oh lord, the police done got her. And then once you start calling the police station and she ain't there, then you start thinking maybe, oh, I hope Jack the Ripper ain't got her. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Or somebody like that. You know what I'm saying? And so the phone call is to let the pimpin know that, hey man, she's cool. She's safe. I don't want you to break the plate over there, but I got some news that you can use this morning. Yes, that's what I'm saying. The best done got on up and see they came on home with me. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You don't call somebody too. That's why you explain that. Oh no! I got it! I got it! Look at that pillow! How did you feel when you first pealed? When you pealed, how did it go to hell? You know, just, you know, of course you go on the phone trying to, oh, okay, I'm gonna tell him like, I don't, you know, wait a minute, let me stay like that. No, that ain't cool. That ain't purpose enough. Okay, let me tell you. Hey man, I got the pimpin. No, that ain't cool. I don't know what I'm saying. You know, you're gonna go with that a few times, you know what I'm saying? And then you're gonna go and do your spiel, you know what I'm saying? And calling, like I said, if you dealing with another gentleman that's been in this shit for a while, it's gonna be cool. It's gonna be smooth. He gonna probably give you some game. He'll tell you a little bit about the female. You know what I'm saying? Y'all may meet up, talk, you know what I'm saying? I met up with a guy, we done talked, had a drink. We done exchanged. How after you took off from him? Yeah, he done brought me her clothes cause she got her belongings, you know what I'm saying? So we meet up, he bring me the clothes. That's real. We meet up at a teddy bar or something. We have some drinks. He may tear me up, you know, a few things a bottle. You know, he may give me some game and woo, woo, woo. And then it's cool. We'll record you. And then you got some guys. That went left. They wanna kill you. Yeah, that's what I would have thought would have happened. Yeah, some guys, yeah. Some guys, you gotta just know that not to even call. Cause that's the money man. You know that nigga too though already. You already know. Y'all know each other on the street. Yeah, because pretty much you gonna put him in the fire. If you get a girl from Max So-and-So, you don't know him, you gonna call. You know, your friend, hey man, you heard of him, you heard of him, you heard of him. Oh, before you met, I called. Yeah, so if he don't come in, nobody's roll of decks. Nobody in the city knows him. Oh yeah, I probably not anything to call him. Yeah, cause he ain't no nigga that's real out here doing it like this. Yeah, he a lot of childs. So what do you say to these girls when you go up to one, when you see one, cause you see, okay, that pimp got one and she the prize possession, I'm gonna take her. What do you go up to these girls and say? I mean, a lot of times you just pose to be chose. You don't even say nothing. Yeah, if it's on, you know, if it's in you, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? We all, we know what it is, you know what I'm saying? She know what I'm doing, I know what she doing. So if she wanna make a move, you know, he may have did something wrong last night. She may have brought home all the money. He didn't think it was enough. He beat the shit out of us. Wow. You know what I'm saying? It was hard on him out here. Yeah, and so the next day when she see you, you know, and she may hear about how you running your program. She wanna go over there. Yeah, I wanna go over there. Cause they talk, the streets talk, they know, they know. Yeah, the females gonna talk. Yeah, he a good nigga. What's the most, what's the most you ever made from one woman? Oh man, it's a pretty penny. In one night. Yeah, it's pretty penny. My homeboy told me when he quit doing the barbershop, I ain't gonna say a name. He say, I make, what he tell me? He say, I make my girl do a hundred dollars a, but I got two girls that do a hundred dollars a day. He broke it down. He end up being like. A hundred dollars a day? A hundred dollars, five hundred dollars a day. It was between two girls. Whatever the case it was, it was seven thousand dollars a week. And what he said, I ain't gonna never be working nowhere. It's what the nigga told me. And he ain't work no more. Yeah. That's the way a nigga told me. That can be a low number, couldn't know. But you see what I'm saying? He was like, he had just started. He's like, I'm just getting into it, nigga. I'm doing this. And it made seven thousand a week. That's what it did. I know that. Five hundred dollars a day is fifteen thousand dollars at the end of the month. Yeah. Can I think about escorts and stuff like that? You know, when escorts just first came in, I think about those are the ones who go with them doctors, lawyers, who don't, the discreet ones. Right, right, right. And they're gonna be paying that big, big money. And now it's, you know, they're probably on some type of internet service. It's not even internet service, it's just about the circles. If you know what circles to mingle in and what, you know, cause you don't even have to be associated with no type of internet or social media, any of that type of stuff, to be in that circle. But you just have to know where those type of guys be. Let me ask you this, man, cause I always talk about God. I gotta bring God into this thing. Do you ever think about spiritualism when you out here going through all this stuff? Yeah. Let's be real. Yeah, of course. You know what I'm saying? Like damn. But then it's in the Bible though, when you look at certain things and situations where that was dancing, or you might, or Rahab, you got these, these, these characters that's wrote, you know, that's talked about in there. Matter of fact, Jesus was from a lineage of Rahab. But I'm just saying, do you think about these things in that whole, cause it was around, even if you come from a biblical perspective. I've always prayed for me and any girl that worked for me, especially when she out on the streets. You know what I'm saying? I may not be doing what you want me to do, but. What who want you to do? I mean, the man upstairs. You don't, you don't know that. I don't know. People, that's what you mess up at. Cause I think a person that God can snatch anybody out the fire. And I don't, I think he meets you where you are. Right. You understand what I'm saying? I don't think, I don't think there's no big eyes and little use with God. That's the difference in the way that I look at it. Does that make sense to you? Yeah, it makes perfect sense. So I can't come here with, it's a personal relationship. Right, right. Who am I? And that goes for all the big time, whoever they think they are. Exactly. It's between you and God. So who is a man to tell you anything? Right. I mean. Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense. Now I'm not telling you, that's what you doing is perfect cause hell, I ain't perfect. Even the person that you talk to, I ain't perfect. So I can't set up and be like, oh yeah, he doing this. That's what niggas do. Whether it be somebody that's gay or whether it be somebody that's pimping or whether it be somebody that think they straight, that's lying all the time. It all boils down to the same thing. It's a gumbo. Yeah. Gumbo. I mean you like, how did he bring God into that like that and spend this like this? But I'm a realist. That's why I do this. I know a lot of guys in this game are spiritual though. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And you would think females too and you would think that we would be far from it. But no, I know a lot of females, a lot of guys that, you know. I would think that you would be close to it. Well, I think you are the church cause the word church come from a Greek word meaning ecclesia. It simply means to be called out from among them. It doesn't mean a building when you look at it in the book anyway. So I can't even ride with that. You see what I'm saying? My thing is to just tell you when you are called out just to continue to strive to be a better person That's it. That's it. And that don't go just for you. That's for me. That's for whoever that feel like they're trying to and that's what everybody trying to be a better person. Am I just justifying your walk? No, but I'm saying these other people perpetrating the fraud and trying to tell you that you can't serve God in any condition is lying because that's the antagonist. The antagonist is the one that blames and come at you in a way to tell you you can't no more. Hey, now we have a church there. Man, I went there. I took it there. I didn't want to show you. This is how God gave it to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm being real. Like, you don't have no big eyes and little use with him. No, for real. You know what I'm saying? That's why I take every opportunity. I can't even have no show without bringing him up because he been too good to me, real tall. But back to the pimp, man. Let's get back to it. I got one question about that before I get out of here. Here we go. This is the problem right here. Maybe she wanted to jump out there into that pimp life. That hat is working on her. That'll be the first female pimp. Wow. Yeah, whatever. That's where I get pimped out. There you go. Whatever. You got to be stern. You ain't stern enough. Get out there on that block. It's late at night, dark, cold, nigga. You go, give my money. Oh, no, I let that do all my talking for me. Oh, okay. Don't worry. Look at her. Look at her. Don't worry. She looks just like her mama. Yeah. No, cause I watch a lot of movies. Oh, here we go. So do all pimps have like a little black book with a whole bunch of names in there? Oh, Lord. They got phones and stuff with everything in it. No, but I'm talking about, you don't understand what I mean when I say that, right? With a list of all the doctors, the lawyers, and all those people. That's where they use them, black male people. No, maybe some females make, you know. They might have that. I mean, if you got top notch money on your line, then you definitely want to keep in touch. You want to keep that on your line. You know, keep it confidential as much as you can. You know, that's, you know, that's like Heidi Fleiss got started, things like that. You know, she was dating these guys and all she did was just keep the numbers. What's her name? What's the one that got the card back on her? Heidi Fleiss or whatever. Yeah, okay. I was going to ask you. She had, you know, she had big-time people and I think she went to jail because she wouldn't give up. Wouldn't give up. I was going to ask you about the girl. It was a girl in Houston got killed. I think she was leaving the strip club though. I don't know what happened. She was a rapper though, wasn't she? No, she wasn't a rapper, was she? She was just a regular girl. And she came up missing by some, so I think that, did they find the guy? Yeah, I think they did. But how, I mean, how close did they hit the home when you have dealt with these situations and been so close up on the fact of somebody could go out like that? You know? I mean, you know, you have to be aware of it because I've seen that shit change a lot of guys. You know what I'm saying? Where they was good. You know, that shit needs, you know, we don't have, you know, black people don't have what you call it. We don't spend money on therapy and all that type of shit. You know what I'm saying? Counseling. Counseling and all that shit. You know, we see all our people die. You know, we watch people die in our face and shit like that and we just have to deal with it. And then if you're dashed out and do some crazy and they say that nigga was crazy or whatnot, but they don't realize, you know, what a nigga been going through. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of people feel like pimps don't care about their women. And that's the worst misconception of it is because if she's doing everything she's supposed to do, she ain't giving you no problems. You know, you give her her instructions, she coming home with it. Of course you're gonna have, you know, you might not be in love, but you're gonna love your woman. You know what I'm saying? Just like you would love your partner. You know what I'm saying? And so something happened to her. Yeah, then that shit is, you know, it fucks with you. Missed with you bad, don't you? Yeah, it missed with you bad, you know what I'm saying? Can a pimp have a wife or a girlfriend? No, he's not supposed to. Okay, I'm just checking. They some have them, you know, but you know, some of them have them and they're not active. You know what I'm saying? Because some pimps get out of the gang, get married, you know, cool. You know what I'm saying? That's a thing, you know. But why are you in the game? You gotta be single. I mean, you know, you don't have, you know, this game is, you know. It's flexible. You know, but I just feel like if the female find out that she's paying on a married man, I don't know how long that's gonna last. Because I don't know, you know, would you wanna give your money to somebody that was married? Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's gotta be a structure. It's a street coat. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's just stop playing with it, it's a street coat. Now, you gotta understand, man, when the person come, they look at the lifestyle and they wanna, you know, you've seen this, the pimp cup, you know, you niggas had cups back in the days. Y'all niggas ain't got cups no more like me. Y'all left the cups alone, nigga. But I got a cup, nigga. Niggas used to be out there with the cups. With the pinky finger out of all the rings. You see the finger right there, nigga. I gotta have my ring at the house. You know, I got the pinky finger ring, nigga. Don't bust it back out. Yeah, nigga, I don't make a nigga come out retirement on this thing. You know what I'm saying? No, so, man, your music is so dope, bro. You had a song, Kicking the Boo Boo, for the culture. That was an out where you came, I did the mic thing. What made you, what made, everybody's doing it. What makes yours different? It was fly. I mean, you know, I did mine on the track. I did mine with Pips and Hoes, get famous at it, you know what I'm saying? Right down Harry Hines and Walnut here. You know, if you from that era, if you know what's going on, then when you see that intersection, you already know what it is. You know what it is. You know what I'm saying? So, how did you feel about it when the finishing product was done? Who did the production for you? That was, oh, man, what's, what's, what, what, what? Did the music do it? No, the video. Melo. Melo vision. Oh yeah? He went there for you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad. Shout out to Melo vision. I tried to get you to come on Boss Talk all most of you. I'm going to try again. And then I've been trying to get him to come on. I like, I like, I like his style. I like, I called him early on. Right, right, right. He had been doing it. He is, I've seen a few guys doing it. You know what I'm saying? I've seen guys do it in, you know, the projects in their neighborhood and where they from. And I just felt like, of course, me being Rolo the Pimp, I had to do it on the track. And it was smoothly done. Boy, my boy went down through that. Rolo the Pimp in the house, baby. Y'all see how he get down. Say, man, let's talk about the hi-ism one more time, man. Cause that was, that's like a movie. You said it was a movie. Highwayism, yeah. It's highwayism. Is it a movie? Well, it's a movie in the making. That was just a video. Yeah, I know that I've watched that video. I have a full movie that starts where that video ends. Well, take me out through that. Cause I seen you shoot, you, you blast and you come out with the big pistol, your girl get killed, nigga. I watched it. Nigga, you think it's a game over here? You know, you would have your acting skills going down through there. Trying to get my mom off the stage. Just walk me down through that. How was it doing that whole situation? Like, how was it? Like, had you done something that intense before? Let's be real. That was actually my first time. And like I said, I just try to make, you know, cinematic movies, something that people are going to video, something that people are going to watch more than once. You know what I'm saying? Because like I did a video call through me for a loop. And it was kind of about a female meeting the trick. She browsed the trick, you know. So I just tried to make, you know, cinematic stuff. So when I did that one, I just had the old school thing and I'd use Jefferdale. He's a- Hey, yeah, yeah. I never got to meet the guy, but I hear a lot of good, they see a lot of good visuals that he do. You know, profit's the film, my guy. So you got to work with him one day. That's my guy. Okay, you got to link me up. Yeah, hell yeah, that's my guy. You ain't gonna say all the other niggas name, don't say profits and niggas tell them, baby. That's my guy for real for real. So are you a full-time rapper? Yeah. Or a part-time rapper? No, full-time rapper. Full-time rapper? You ain't no full-time rapper. Because how you gonna be, okay, cause just like I tell anybody else, I say, I have a lot of guys who come in here who rap, but they be in the streets. I'm like, if you- But they rapping full-time. But they rapping full-time. You can't give both of them 100%. And your music good. So you really, you playing yourself. Cause you ain't never just went solid all the way down with it, to be honest with you. And we watching you, nigga, I done looked at your stuff. I see what's going on, nigga. And why not? You flipping and flopping on this game, nigga. You pimping the rap game. What's going on? The rap game pimping you. What's going on, man? Cause you can make good money from it if you put your all into it. But you have throttled and killing most of these niggas. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm flying, nigga. You didn't know what you were coming on, did you? No, no. I knew what I was talking about. I was just boss talking. I ain't want to boss this talk, man. So why not? So what's up? I mean, like I said, man, I feel like I'm in it full-time. You know what I'm saying? But I don't have a team. I don't have a label. You know what I'm saying? I don't have no, like a lot of these niggas got sugar daddies. You know what I'm saying? I don't have no nigga behind me that's letting me waste jewelry and giving me money and doing this old shit that, you know, all this shit, you know, A-O-B, if they already know what that means, you know what I'm saying? So everything that I do, you know, this shit straight out of the mud, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, I have my friends that I do have that help me. You know what I'm saying? If I need certain things or whatnot, you know what I'm saying? But as far as funding this shit that I got going, man, I've been having to do that shit myself. So of course, if I'm doing good, then so is the music, you know what I'm saying? But if I'm, you know, if something may happen, you know, in real life to where I may not be able to, you know, put my, put my eggs in this basket right now, I gotta take care of this right here first. And then I can get back to that. You know what I'm saying? So it'd be real life situation going on, you know what I mean? You know what? Water too live for R.I.P. Watery. Watery said the same thing. Watery was so real with what he said. I remember that interview. He didn't go on now, but when he came on the show, he was like, I ain't gonna, if I'm messed up, man, I'm not gonna go to the studio. I gotta try to figure life out. You see what I'm saying? And he was so, so focused on the fact of keeping it real on the situation to his brand and to himself. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you kind of, cause that's what you said a lot of times, like I said, they don't even listen to the music. A lot of times they in love with the image, the image and the character. You know what I'm saying? Or who that is? You know, I take that like, it's a lot of rappers that I feel like that people don't just have any tape decks every day bumping. But they get a lot of traction. They getting shows and they doing shit like this because they got big internet presence. They own Instagram every day. They going live and they, you know, they in love with the character. You know what I'm saying? So it's just different. Back in the day, you know, you had to have musical talent in order to sell records. Nowadays, you know, it's not about that. It's kind of different. You know what I'm saying? How much of what? Sorry, how much of what you do, you put into your music all the time? Because people say they rap what they live. Do you write everything that you live? Yeah, pretty much. Elf with some pimping. I want to know about that song. Fuck with some pimping? Yeah. Yeah, they need to fuck with some pimping. What inspired that? See it. I mean, you know, just renegades, being out on the blade and seeing too many females doing it by themselves, thinking that they can do it by themselves. And I feel like this is a game that where I don't care what level you are on as far as a female, you're going to always need a man in your corner. You can be getting a million dollars a day, but that shit going, you're going to get real lonely laying up in that penthouse at the top floor, which is you and them dollar bills. You don't want no man laying up in that bed with you. Damn. You know what I'm saying? And what kind of man is going to lay up with you and not judge you other than a pimp? Because you can go lay up with another type of guy, but he's never going to respect what you're doing because he's going to feel like you out there doing what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? So the only person that's going to respect what you're doing and really treat you like you're supposed to be treated is some pimping. You know what I'm saying? We got to talk about that PLAML. Oh yeah, that's my shit. Pimping like a motherfucker. Yeah. That's the new one, right? That's the new one. Let's talk about that for a minute. Like what inspired it? Like how did you? Of course, we know the pimp game inspired it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But like just break down to me how you came up with everything. I mean, really, pipping like a motherfucker was a project that I did with a producer named Mezy. And I just kind of wanted to keep the ball rolling this year. You know what I'm saying? I feel like during the pandemic, I had a lot of things going. I had a lot of shows booked and shit just came to a halt. So I'm just trying to get back into, I got with a distribution company and I didn't really put out a whole bunch of music in 2020, 2021. So 2022, I just kind of wanted to hit them. And I came out, I had the whole whisper that I dropped in the beginning of 2020. I see that. Yeah, 2022. And then I came, I wanted to just back down with another album, pipping like a motherfucker with what I feel like it's kind of like, you know, Mezy got a different style. You know, Bud got his style, Mezy got his style. So, you know, me and Bud been rocking, you know, 12, 13 albums, you know what I'm saying? So I just kind of wanted to switch it up one time. And me and him got together and did this project and I, you know, I like it. How many visuals do we get with it? Do we got any visuals yet? I do got a visual for Cologne. It'll be out this week. Okay, Cologne. Let's talk about that. Why'd you come out with Cologne first? I mean, because I just feel like it's a little more, you know, it's a little more radio friendly. I don't know if the radio gonna put, you know, pick up on it, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, it's not, you know, it's not putting so much of it in their face. It's all, you know, it's just about Cologne. Everybody wants me a good. Every female lover man that smell good. You know what I'm saying? So that's basically what the song was about. Yeah, that's basically what the song was about. I need smoke. I got about three bottles, but I got that bond number nine. What's your number one Cologne? Bond number nine. Hey! It's probably Bond and Cree. Cree, Cree is a good one. Yeah, and then, you know, Clive Christensen, I got a bottle of that, I'm loving that too. Man. I like my Dior's and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, it's something that like you can just abuse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And some of you take off a special occasion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That Cologne, though, that's the hell of a name. You came up with it on your own, just like, I'm gonna just rock this off. And it speaks for itself. Sometime when you walk in a room, you know what I'm saying? You don't even have to say nothing. The Cologne, don't do all the talking for you. You got it on the right scent. It's gonna kill them. And they gonna let you know. They smell you before they smell you. See, you come. I'm telling you, be like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing is, the Cologne is really there. Pimp it down. Ay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That everybody. What was that, what was that with that one? How'd you come up with that one? Man, I just felt like, and you know what? Everybody was one of them, Jones. I didn't think, you know, I did it on some, just trying to do something different, you know what I'm saying? But you know how you do them songs and you feel like, man, you done looked out for people and you done did shit for people and just trying to put some love out there, man. You know, there ain't enough love in the music, man. Everybody killing, man. You know what I'm saying? Everybody robbing and you know, I believe you manifest a lot of shit through what you talk about, you know what I'm saying? So I just try to talk about positive shit, you know what I'm saying? And the shit that I wanna have and you know what I'm saying? Shit like that. I don't try to do that negative shit. But when you look at the robbing and the killing, though you just, I don't mean to cut you off with that, boy, PMG just basically got killed. Yeah. PMB, right? PMB Rock. And how did, you know, when you seen that happen, dropping addresses, how did that, you look at that when you seen it all, or just this girl being here. How do you move when you, like you travel city to city, state to state, how do you move? Just give us a little bit of. When you're in LA, you gotta move and move. You can't do no sticking. You know, ain't no sticking and move. You gotta move, move, move, move. You gotta always be, you know, and that, that particular. That's real, ain't it? Yeah, that particular Roscoe's. Yeah, I go there. I done been there. I done been there, too, but that's not the one that I used to go to. I used to be at Englewood. I go there, too. Yeah, you know, right by the, yeah, Hollywood, you know. We done been to all of them. We went to all of them. But that one, you kinda like. That one hood. Yeah, that's hood. It's a motherfuckin'. Money Moses went with us and he dropped out of the car and we went, I mean, we had the boys with us. That's the exact one. And see, I'm, you know, I got LA niggas with me. You know what I'm saying? You checkin' in, man. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, nigga? I mean, yeah, but you know, one of my, one of my, I mean, it's, it's, it's period. So it's like, it's kinda like a fraternity. Okay. So every city we go to, it's gonna be peace. Like that, so that's what I'm linking in with. You know, if I go somewhere I ain't got no, I can go to a city I've never been to before. I'm gonna call a few people. Hey, man, I'm finna go over here to a box school. Niggas gonna take some money. Yeah, they gonna say, hey, man, look in, talk to T-Money. T-Money gonna take care of you. He gonna, you know, he gonna make sure, you know, you get your weed from the weed, man. You ain't gonna get robbed. You ain't gonna do none of this. Cause you know, there's been times like I've been to New Orleans, nigga robbed me. All kinda shit. Niggas robbed you in New Orleans? Oh, yeah. Let's talk about that. I mean, you know, I mean. But you, you got Carl Slavin'. Yeah. You know, you didn't know the nigga, you ain't know the nigga as you when it got robbed. Exactly, that's, and that's how I learned. That's how, and I wasn't fucking with no pimpin'. I wasn't even doin' what the song said. Well, what happened, you ain't got a call on the, you was on the, got all bourbon. They told you, don't get all bourbon. I went to the hustler club. Man, somebody in the hustler club gave me a number to a nigga that was supposed to meet me and add it with the weed. Met the nigga and add it with the weed. The nigga got in the car. The nigga, I had $200 in my hand that I was, you know, For the band. For the band, for the weed. The nigga snatched the $200 out, pulled the pistol on me, snatched the $200 weed. Like, yeah, I think I'm takin' this. Whoa, I'm like, hey man, okay, cool. Just don't, you know, don't kill a pimp, man. Don't kill a pimp. Don't get a pimp. Don't get a pimp. Don't kill a pimp. The man was like, cool. He took the money and got on out the car. So he didn't ask for nothin' else? I had $2,000 in my head. He didn't even know it. He ain't reached for it under the head rest. He just took the $200 and did it. So, you know, that was a blessing. You know what I'm sayin'? I took that lesson. Yeah, I never fuck with nobody else. Outside of who the pimp is, you know. Right, the circuit. Yeah. That was it, man. And you prayed about it right then. Oh yeah. Because you were driving away. Because, you know, you had certain situations where the nigga just shot you. He just shot you for anyway, you know what I'm sayin'? So yeah. And still wouldn't have gotten that $2,000 because he wouldn't have known right. Yeah, he might have gotten it. He might have got it. Like those bars on Minnesota side that clean the window if he kicked your ass out. Yeah, he might have gotten it. You guys didn't see that the other night when I was watching it? Yeah, they coulda did that then. Yeah, but he was so interested in that $200, you know, and tryin' to hurry up and get on. Like I said, we in the middle of Bergen. I'm from Bergen now. Y'all done got on track. We was downtown. Yeah. We was like, you know, a couple streets on one of those streets. They told you don't get around them. They don't give a damn. Shit. But you got your butt off of bourbon and got yourself over there in the mix of trouble. And so when I go to LA, I'm with my people. Dance down there. Uh-huh. What about, man, you ever go down to H-Town, man? Why do you, you been in Dallas doin' the music? So why do you feel like the H-Town music is so different from the Dallas music? I mean, but shit, because I feel like I've always said H-Town, they just know how to do business, brothers in Dallas. Wow. Break that down. I mean, because a H-Town artist, when he come to Dallas, he gonna have, he may have five or six niggas with him. One of them is the cameraman. One is the computer guy. One of them is, you know, all of them got jobs. One of them is the road manager. You know, somebody doing something. Dallas nigga, he gonna come in. He got six, seven, eight niggas with him. And ain't none of them niggas doin' nothin', but rollin' weed and takin' up space. Ain't nobody workin'. You feel what I'm sayin'? And so that's why I feel like the difference is, and then you got guys, you got successful rappers in Houston. You don't have a lot of successful rappers in Dallas. You got way more and, you know, you got... The majority moved to Houston, that's why. Yeah. But a lot of them was already, you know, you got majority of the Swiss out, like Slimp to Power, or Lil' Flip. You got a core guy, Scarface, Devin to do. You got a core guy that was in Houston and was makin', and was being successful. You got record labels, rap a lot. You had Swab House. So do you have to move to Houston to be successful in rap? I mean, Houston, it might help. I know a lot of guys that done it. I don't think you have to, but I just think you have to be serious about your business, because it's guys in Dallas that have done it. You know what I'm sayin'? But you just have to, I feel like you have to get outside your circle. You have to get outside your, you know, what you got goin' on in the city, in order to bubble, you know what I'm sayin'? Out of your routine? Yeah, you're only gettin' so far in your city. Who you likin' right now in the music outside of yourself? Man, rap-wise? Yeah, rap-wise. Dallas or everyone? Anywhere. Man, I'm diggin' a lot of niggas, man. Time for you all this all the time. I'm out for the play, which are dead or alive. Dead or alive, any genre. I'm tired of playin' now. I gotta get out to the business. Number one. Pop. That nigga, there he is right there. Number two. That nigga said, pimp, give it up, nigga. Now we can start. That's my guy. Number three. I had to say Snoop. Snoop. Yeah, I said, no, you gon' say Snoop. That's your boy right there. Snoop got a thing for the pimps, you know? That's why they're what? You gotta rock with Snoop, man. You know, I, you know. How did you like that when you seen Snoop doin' all that back in the days with all the pimps and all that? That whole movement. I mean, you know, I liked it. I didn't know. Back then you wasn't even in it, was you? No. And like I said, you know, back then I just thought it was just some cool shit that they were doin', you know what I'm sayin'? I didn't necessarily convey it to the pimps till he started hangin' with the bitcher. When I seen him hangin' with the bitcher, I was like, okay, he really tryin' to do some pimping. I thought he was just on some fly player shit. Yeah. You know what I'm sayin'? Like when he did with the fabulous dramatics and shit like that. Oh yeah, that him clean, too. And shit was just fly. I just liked that, you know, fly type of music. You know, I liked his gangsta shit, too. But you know, like I say, the pimps shit, you know, the fly shit, that's the shit that I liked. You know what I'm sayin'? MJG, you know, I just enter that type of shit. You know what I'm sayin'? Outcast, you know what I'm sayin'? One of my favorite rappers is Project Pat, but you ask me for my top three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But Pat is probably my top five. I didn't ask you for your top five, though. I'm tryin' to go there as easy as he's pimping. Slick pimping in the building. You gotta watch these niggas, they sleep boy. You know what I'm sayin'? Now, like I said, I just, I love the fact that your music is so, it's fly, it's refreshing, I'm a fan. I'll be listenin', I'm gon' be listenin'. Niggas told me, shout out to my boy, Big D, Dallas. He said, man, make sure you interview Ralo. Man, he say, he a real one. Of course, R.D., he called me, like he called me, put me on the phone. D, shout out to Ralo. E, man, E, man, you got, I told you you need to interview Ralo, man. You gotta interview Ralo, man. That nigga is nice with that music, man. And we got some shit comin' too. Y'all do? Yeah, yeah, I'm on the, what's that, David Street? Yeah. You on that? Yeah. That was hard, too. Man, that's a blessing, bro. Like me and him talked just right before this interview, before we left the house, we was talkin' to him, and yeah, man, love that dude, man. Always showin' love to the show, man. Man, he got good heart, man. A real one, bro. A real one, bro. And there's not a lot of niggas out there that genuinely, you know what I'm sayin'? Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're not real with it. And I respect him a lot, his family, everything that boy doin', man. And he can't wait till that David Street come out and go crazy. That movement he got is serious, ain't it? The way he, I told him, I said, man, I learned a lot from watchin' how you move. The way you move. To watch how you move, cause, you know what I mean? Yeah. He got his cities on all the locks, but it works. It works, don't it? Yeah, man. Man, I tell you, man, did we get everything? Let me see that we get all the meat off the bone. You know what I'm sayin'? So where can people find you if they want to do some music with you? Correct, they want to, yeah. Or if they want to get down with the pimp, but nothing. Everywhere. You understand me? Earth is your turf. Yeah, Earth is my turf. Hey! I'm on Apple Music, Spotify. All the, you know, all major music platforms. You can find me. Instagram, follow the pimp, you know. I got a, I'm workin' on my website. Oh, yeah? Follow the pimp, LLC. That's what's up, man. I got a movie that's comin' out in January, January the 1st. Dope, dope. Called Game Related. Dope, dope. Game Related. How did you come up with that? Actually, a friend of mine from Vegas, he's one of my, a friend of mine. He's a good painter. Over there, he does a lot of art. I'mma have to turn you on for him. Okay. And he's the one that came up with the whole movie, just wanted me to get in it. He put me in it. I don't have a big part. I got about 15, 20, 27. Don't matter. You two in that whole. And then I'm over the whole soundtrack as well. Oh, man. It's gonna be flighty. Yeah, so you know the soundtrack. Ooh, that soundtrack, man. I like that, man. That's why I say, man, you don't get all the way in, nigga. You go out and dive in, nigga. The movies are the next thing that I'm tryin' to do. That's what I say after that. You know, I had a highway. Here's a movie that I have already wrote. And then I got a whole, I got like two or three of them there. Me and my guy, we get together. We have a ride night. So I got some shit jumping off. Man, same man. Hey, man, we love you, right, little man. I'm so glad I got an opportunity to meet you, man. And I mean, I hope we did you justice, man. You always welcome to come back on the show, man, real talk. Thank you. You got my number on speed dial. We finally locked it in. We tried it first. It didn't just happen like that. It happened when it was supposed to. There you go, man. It happened when it was supposed to. And I just, like I said, there's been a lot of cats out of the interview, man, in a year span. And hey, man, you know, you one of those guys, bro. So like I said, man, your spirit is right, bro. I know you're a good man because, you know, you know, when a nigga like that stamp you, you got to be right because we talk a lot. You know what I mean? It's like he a good one. So I respect that man. Man, appreciate it. Yes, sir, man. Hey, man, check it, man. It's been another great segment. You did. Boss talk 101 where the bosses talk that boy Rollo to Pimp was all there to build it. Hey, big pimpin, man. I let your boys a unique hustle.