 Next question is from Eric Pepper. How long should a bulk and cut last? Oh yeah. Here's a good rule of thumb. 27 days. With a blank. Exactly. Boom. Specifically. Wouldn't be grave, that was it. There's your answer. Yeah, 175 hours. No, here's a good rule of thumb that I used to go by with a bulk and a cut. If I'm bulking and my strength is going up and I'm adding mostly muscle, then I would stay on it. The minute that I notice my weight's going up and my strength isn't going up and I'm adding way more body fat or I'm not adding muscle anymore, I'm just gaining body fat, then I would switch out of it. And then with a cut, when my strength would really start to dive and I started to lose muscle, and this requires tracking, body fat tests and stuff like that, when I noticed that, uh-oh, I'm losing weight, but the weight I'm losing is muscle, then I would switch out of it. So that was kind of the metric that I would use. So I like spending four to six weeks in the one that's more difficult for you and two weeks in the one that's easier for you. So if you're somebody who typically can put on weight, fairly easy, then a bulk, I would only bulk them for a couple of weeks and then spend more time in the cut four to six weeks. And if the opposite is true, then I would spend four to six weeks on the other direction and then cut for the two weeks. So depending on which one, and that's just, I mean, there's no real science to support that that's superior than any way. That's just when you coach people? Yeah, just it's something that I have found over years has worked well with myself and then people that I've coached. I mean, we talk about the benefits of, and there's plenty of research and science to support the benefits of moving in and out of cuts and bulks and not staying in either one of them for an extended period of time. So I think that the science is out on that. I think everybody agrees on that, but exactly how many weeks you should spend in each one. I think there's such a genetic variance. And I think that spending more time in the one that is a little bit more challenging for you and then less time in the one that your body responds to faster has just made sense for me and has done well for clients that I've coached that way. I also like for somebody who has, let's say a lot of weight to lose, let's say I want to lose 50 pounds, right? So that would be a long cut, but I would break up every three or four weeks I'd break up that cut with whatever you want to call it, a diet break or whatever, where I'd put them at a slight bulk or even just that maintenance. So like, okay, every four weeks, we're going to do four days where we bump your calories up and put you in. The inverse of that too, right? If you're trying to gain. Yes, and there's a couple of benefits that, well, first off, studies show that it actually helps with the fat loss and reduces the muscle loss that can happen from going into a cut, but also psychologically, like even bulking. I know a lot of people cut a lot and trying to lose weight and they think, oh, I would love to be on a long bulk. I'm going to tell you, coming from someone's ectomorph, right? Being in a long bulk, psychologically at some point, you're just like, I don't want to eat. Like I don't want to stuff my face anymore. This is like super tedious and I don't like this. So then if I did like a three day cut, it would like reinvigorate me. And then I go back to the bulk and start to feel better, you know, when I would start eating more calories. And I think that's the key takeaway from a question like this is because there isn't no, and I jokingly said 27 days and the point of me joking about that was that there isn't like this specific. Yeah, there's no hard and fast rules. There isn't, there isn't, there's some basic general rules as far as not staying in it for too long of a period of time. I think spending two months, so eight weeks and beyond in any particular one with no break at all is not ideal. So if you are cutting, staying in a calorie deficit for eight weeks straight with no break is not ideal. I think the same thing for a bulk, if your goal is to bulk and you're eight weeks consistently and you've been bulking and you haven't had a break before you do a lower calorie day, I think that's not ideal, but everything in the middle of that, I think it's really about personal preference and then what you're most likely to stay consistent with and do. So I like kind of doing the four two thing just because it was, I was constantly breaking up whatever the client was doing in a month's time. They never were doing the same, you know, following the same meal plan or calorie plan for longer than a four week time. And psychologically that works. Yeah, psychologically I could convince anybody to like, all right for the next 30 days this is what we're gonna do just stick to the plan and then I'm gonna do this to you and then they'll, okay, they have something to look forward to versus, oh, we're just gonna inevitable or we're gonna be in this bulk forever or cut forever.