 Oh, yeah, man, I can't wait to get my Costco Balut on I Watched this show on Netflix, which I forget what it's called. It's like a you know interesting foods around the world There's like a British guy that goes around and we'll watch the Manila one and and that oh street foods That's what it was. It was like street foods from across the world And they had obviously had Balut from from there. Oh, yeah, but they also had like this rice porridge It was their breakfast. It was rice porridge. They put cocoa in and Then and then you eat it, but then you did it with dried fish Well, no, I've had the rice porridge But they it's kind of we're one of the hospitals we looked at take you know for for giving birth in their Commissary kitchen cafeteria. They had that as like a breakfast food. It was just right right early life. Thank you Rice porridge, but they served it with adobo chicken meat Okay, it's really good. This was a dried fish and I was like, I don't know about that What's wrong with you people? Well, you get to eat your utensils. Great. You don't you don't have any leftover chocolate and fish I don't know. That's not I don't know sweet and disgusting What do you like the the chocolate bars that have bacon in them? I'm sure I would like that. Yeah, those things are nasty It's like just I get it people want to make oh, I want to put all the foods I like together. It's like if you did that you what do they call it in prison? That's not that's not what's going on Who's putting their peas in their mashed potatoes? That is blasphemy There's a I think what it is is they they're they're trying to bring out different notes in different types of dark chocolate by using counterpoint flavors Yeah, but I mean are you counterpointing the bitter or the sweet in the chocolate? Well, that's why you use dark chocolate because then you can control the sweet. I Like I like like peppers like hot peppers or chili. Oh, yeah, and that's really good peppers and sea salt Only like than chocolate. It's moly Yeah See moly is a good example But should that be good? Holy moly, how do you do this show again in 30 seconds the last time you were on Darren too long too long All right, let's get let's just go let's just do this all right Here we Lee Roy Jenkins at least I had chicken Daily Tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out more head to Daily Tech news show.com slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Friday September 30th 2016. I'm Tom Merritt. It's been too long Darren kitchen Good to have you back on the show man. Tom. It's so great to be here. I'm so excited I'm looking forward to continuing our discussion about lizards across the globe. I've been boning up. I take it this week We're discussing Indonesia where the Komodo dragon just finished its mating season This is gonna be some exciting stuff I feel I should have prepared you more because our main topic is about the transfer of the domain name system from under the Department of Commerce of the US There is there are so many hundred and fifty pound lizard tie-ins there. I think we're gonna be okay good excellent And that gives Len Peralta something to illustrate It's going to be a very interesting illustration today, I think there another esoteric sort of Topic which is now you can work lizards it apparently I don't I'll try I'll try to work Well good to have you back as well Len. We missed you last week Yahoo has open sourced its algorithm that determines if images are not safe for work Who's excited you can run it yourself now? Yeah, it just doesn't this mean though that anybody that's trying to get some NSFW content onto the web has the You know can test against it and modify their stuff so that it passes. That's yeah, but that's the open source promise is that Everyone will be able to see what those workarounds are and then stop them faster Right, right want maybe it is Now here are some more top stories Google has renamed Google apps for work, which by the way Don't forget used to be Google apps on the domain to G suite not G your suite But G SU it because it is a suite of productivity tools new features got announced one called quick access tries to predict What file you need before you even start typing in Google Drive? I'm the kind of person who will only notice that after I've started typing and it'll take me forever to learn But we'll see how good that is Google calendar smart scheduling where it can just take Information out of emails and then suggest like oh, so you need this appointment at this place with these people at this time That's coming to iOS. They've got a feature called explore That can turn natural language into spreadsheet formulas So you just like Darin you just say like I need to know what half of Column C is over the course of the year and it'll be like oh well then you need this formula boom boom boom boom That's actually half the battle is knowing what the formula is. Yeah, I'm really excited about this. They And then it'll suggest images for your docs if it's like oh, you're saying lizards Here are some great lizard images for you Offer layout suggestions for your presentation and slides and new roles for teams called team drives Which basically lets you eat more easily share Documents around with teams and updated hangout video conferencing available both team drives and hangout video are only for the early adopters at this point Yeah, I'm looking forward to the team drive thing just because the drive is unless you have been living in that ecosystem from the get-go if You have any kind of ideas about how file systems are supposed to work from like the old school School of thought then it's really frustrating But yeah, so I'm looking forward to that and I'm just really glad that they waited for hack 5 to get on The apps for business kind of thing to roll this out as we've just gone like mostly Chrome OS Internally for the shop and I just I love it because it ain't nothing but a G thing I will say that I see this as the potential for them Leveraging the platform with additional suites from other vendors and differentiating it as not just a Google like the Google apps as a platform, but But the G suite is one of the suites that are on the platform And then the integration of other suites down the line that will be able to seamlessly work Across like the entire platform as far as the authentication is concerned Yeah, I get I get them going away from the name app because this is no longer about apps This is about machine intelligence that that's your differentiating factor You can see you saw that with Microsoft that ignite earlier this week. You see this coming out of Apple And and you certainly see it with Amazon Alexa, right? So it's all about how can we make the apps smarter? Everybody's got the apps now. That's really not a part of it Google's Waze Rider carpool service is now available to all users in the San Francisco area. You're limited to two rides a day Because Google everyone's pitching this is here's Google's Uber and Lyft competitor. Not quite This is actually a competitor with like casual carpool that some cities have They don't want the service to be used for anything, but actually carpooling to work So drivers are only compensated for mileage. Wall Street Journal says it's like 54 cents a mile It's not designed to be a part-time job And so Google does not require the drivers proof of insurance photo identification or background check any more than a city's Casual carpool does all you have to do is give an address to Google That isn't published to other people just an address to Google and then your schedule so that they can say Okay, this person is in the area you are and it's headed to the area You're going so you could select a carpool from them So Google's making it more convenient to get into strangers vehicles Yeah, a tinvec nails it in the chat room. He's like, oh what uber said they would be when they went into the taxi business Right is in fact what it looks like Google Waze Rider is going to be I wonder how this is going to compete with the pre-existing things, especially as it rolls out just in the Bay Area now with casual carpool, which Surprisingly just works and that's a completely decentralized thing Yeah, and then you know, there's a list of rules on on the website And they they give you advice on you know, hey if you see this in a car maybe don't get in all that sort of thing, but It's kind of insane that it works as well as it does in places like San Francisco and otherwise I I did it a couple of times When I lived in Oakland and just because there was a casual carpool stop right by the bus stop So it was easy enough to jump in so I've had friends that have been on both sides of that I have friend that commuted from from Oakland to San Francisco and would pick people up and then had a friend that Did the same thing from Oakland to San Francisco and was a picker upper a passenger Yeah Yes, the thing that I can't you can't figure out is how the Wall Street Journal article mentions that the the driver was paid out six dollars and thirty cents for a trip where a rider paid three dollars So what I'm not getting is that there hasn't been any sort of mention that Google isn't like compensating for that and then the or like well That's the Wall Street Journal reporter saying I paid three dollars and the driver made this much It does he say I can't remember now and I don't have it right in front of me Does he say if other people were in the car? I don't think I can figure and it kind of doesn't matter because what Google is saying is probably will pay you this much per Mile, let's say it's 54 cents So you're gonna make six dollars no matter how many people are in the carpool with you, but over the average of all the carpools Theoretically you'll have more than just one rider And so you'll Google would at least break even if not make a little money if they had like three people in the car Mm-hmm. Time to see how many riders I can pack into the free candy van from yeah, but you don't get any more money though That's the key. Oh, I don't know you get you get the per mile rate No matter how many people are in the car then forget the free candy thing altogether. Yeah Baby loves candy though Amazon Game Studios announced its first three titles that will feature deep twitch integration because twitch has this conference going on in San Diego right now One called New World is a massively multiplayer open-ended sandbox game There's one called crucible and then one called breakaway, which is a four-on-four Mythological sport brawler breakaway will let streamers customize their experience with real-time stat overlays as they stream You can invite people who are watching to play in your game if you want and you could set up viewer polls and best of all Wagering with twitch's new in-game currency Stream plus which if it works the way all these work you can buy stream plus But you won't be able to sell stream plus that way it doesn't have to fall under certain rules Also users are reporting seeing something called twitch prime appear online Which prime will apparently include free loot every month as well as exclusive discounts on new release games add free viewing and more It says it will come free with Amazon Prime So potentially if you're already an Amazon Prime subscriber, you'll just get twitch prime and then get free loot in games Yay, I love the incentives Does this does this in any way like flood the market? This being like built into the game because I always feel like with every cool new thing There's a certain barrier to entry You know early on with twitch like it you would have to really be hardcore about it because getting everything set up To stream right was difficult and even before twitch, you know twitch was trying to make even streaming gaming at all Simple, you know, you go back far enough and people are setting up our TMP servers themselves and stuff So with each iteration of this it becomes it lowers a barrier to entry which on one side I'm like, oh Well, that's great. That means that there's more potential for actors here But at the same time doesn't that just mean that there's you know that much more signal to wade through? I don't know. I mean if you were going to worry about that I would have worried more about the game console integration with twitch Which really makes it simple And and I'd also my guess is we already have way more people You know that that market's pretty flooded already as it is. So I don't think I don't think let's look at it this way if I'm a hot twitch streamer who's right on that edge where I'm like I don't want too many people to get in on this or it's going to be harder for me to compete The benefits of these tools I get of these overlays Are are probably worth it and you know the ability to easily invite people in and all of that versus Maybe I'm going to lose a few viewers because there's more people out there But do you think maybe this is a play to get the hardcore twitch streamers that already have an audience to be playing these games because they have special twitch integration These games are in front of the eyeballs of the potential players and purchasers. That's that seems more likely to me Okay, now I finally get it In poland friday facebook launched messenger day happy messenger day Everyone it lets people share photos and videos that can be decorated with filters and stickers and they disappear in 24 hours That's right. Sound familiar. It's just like instagram stories You can draw on images add text But unlike snapchat the filters are organized around prompts like i'm feeling And then it'll show you all these different like sad hungry, etc A little filters or i'm doing or who's up for basketball some music dancing whatever The filters all reflect that sentiment Am I am I like Getting that old that I can't remember if this was my space or facebook But one of them started every like post that you would make with i'm feeling and then you fill in the blank And yeah, well with twitter it was always what are you doing? Yeah, but it would like the first couple of words would always be is that live. Was that live journal? No, no, come on. Tom. I'm not going back that far. I'm pretty sure it was facebook But it's interesting that it's in that vein any yeah, yeah Was it plurk? Maybe it was plurk 10 vex says it was facebook. So i'm gonna go with 10 vex on that one By the way facebook told tech crunch. Yes, we are running a small test of new ways for people to share those updates visually But they have nothing to announce at this time. So it's just for the people of poland right now Okay, well it's still though for the people of poland They should be really excited because they can now snapchat on instagram and snapchat on facebook Which begs the question why snapchat on snapchat, right? Well and tech crunch had a really good take on this. They said look Uh, facebook might never launch this in the united states because snapchat is very popular there But there are countries that don't yet use snapchat that do use facebook messenger And joss constain says that would be a really smart move for facebook Which is not to try to go head to head with snapchat But because they're already global and in more markets take that advantage to use these features It just seems like one of those things where it's like. Oh cool. Great idea robbed HTC is launching vive port in 30 countries friday It's a store for non gaming vr content The 60 virtual reality launch titles in the store are things in the categories of education design art social video music sports health fashion travel news Shopping stuff like that not games And they've even reduced the price of some of these to a buck to get you to Plunk down for them Is this a shared experience yet because I feel like those things are just begging to be Like enjoyed some of them can be yeah, I know you can share I don't want to say the wrong one But it's a netflix like I can't remember is it netflix or hulu or something like that where you can like watch something With other people around Yeah, because I love you know vr content But every time I see it it always feels like a tech demo when i'm feeling it like myself, but it you know Um, I want to be able to vr netflix and chill and and ended up like Accidentally crashing heads into each other because you can't see anything. It's fantastic Uh, yeah, and and this may not be that yet, but it could lead to that And it's also htc saying yeah Valve does a great job with the games But we want to broaden the offering and also have a little bit of control of our own store So we don't have to show the profits, but that begs the question. When does valve get into the content business? Yeah, well they already do there's some movies and stuff on there. It's just not as popular So valve's like sure htc go for it. Good luck. Hopefully someone can crack that US security exploit broker zerodium has tripled To 1.5 million dollars what it will pay for exploits against fully patched iPhones and iPads It has doubled to 200 000 dollars the price it'll pay for a previously unknown vulnerability in android and zero day exploits for flash Have risen from 50 000 dollars to 80 000 dollars per exploit zerodium sells the exploits They purchased in governments for use in surveillance and zerodium founder chauky bekrar says the high prices In his opinion are a result of systems being harder to compromise. He needs to pay more to get the exploits Yeah, you know, there's this this really interesting economics of uh of data breaches and of Vulnerabilities, uh, trey hunts add some really interesting research on this at us cert where um and if you're not familiar with trey hunt He runs have I been pwned p Pwned.com where you can search to see if your email address has been included in any of the most recent data breaches and it's really interesting because he always has to gather these data breaches to index them and uh, You know, it's always through the underground channels through irc and things of that nature that you end up Uh getting these but what he's found is that the prices of these, you know With with the initial leaks are always really high But then it's just supply and demand because as soon as it leaks out more and more Then the price price just plummets. So if a company that gets hacked wants to completely make Make it so that nobody can profit off their uh, their black eye. They just release it themselves Uh, there's probably all sorts of fdc reasons why they shouldn't do that But anyway that now with standing uh zerodium here and the vulnerabilities that they're selling very much the same exact thing you know these exploits go for top dollar and um, it's really an interesting balance between the difficulty to develop exploits As well as the demand for exploits on those platforms And then you have to factor in the fact that most of these companies have their own bug bounty programs where they actually pay Hackers for the exploit codes so that they can fix that. So, you know that balance with the free market price it's no wonder that it just keeps going up because it keeps getting hardened and It's I mean, it's it's really up a lot in the in terms of ios last year Zerodium was offering a million dollars for an ios exploit And that's in contrast to apple who's only offering a quarter million for the same thing They had a million They had a million and then they had to drop it to 500 thousand and now it's back up to one and a half million Exactly, it's supply and demand and so I feel like you know If the argument is to believe that governments need zero-day attacks for the you know, national security interests One may even posit why governments just don't pay for vulnerabilities directly, right? Oh, instead of going through a broker. Yeah, I go through a broker You just have the u.s government say like hey give us your loans will give you money Or you know what actually at that point just take it a step further and require that vulnerabilities be implanted by the vendor because you know Most of those vendors are u.s companies. Oh, you know what? I think they did try that Something happened to you. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I think they they're trying to undermine the market in that manner I the other thing that the people should know because you'll see a lot of people make this argument of like Hey, zerodium is paying black hat hackers Uh, you know malware makers millions of dollars for their exploits Whereas the bug bounty programs are in the single digit thousands or tens of thousands at best And and daren correct me if i'm wrong one of the reasons for that disparity is If i'm going to sell a bug to a bug bounty, I just have to point out the vulnerability exist I don't have to make it work because all the company that wants to fix it wants to know is does that is that vulnerability there They don't want to use it. They just want to defend against it. Whereas these brokers They're like you need to have a hardened vulnerability that I can sell that will actually work in the wild Yeah, they they want actual exploit code that's going to and you have to prove like hey It works under these scenarios not under those and things of that nature and it won't be detected and all of that Exactly you want a finished product some a module you can just import into your metasploit or whatever your frame you're a government You don't have time. That's why you're paying one and a half million dollars from this x point Yeah, uh, all right. Thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit That was one of the things submitted today submit your stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com all right, uh a lot of political hay being made over the fact that as of today the us department of commerce's contract with ican to operate The ian a the internet aside names Uh agency i got that wrong, but there the people who run the domain name system will end so that contract ends today starting tomorrow october 1st I can will make ian a a subsidiary of itself subject to a multi stakeholder model of supervision For attorneys general in the united states filed suit today to block that move Now the attorneys general are not the only ones upset. There are several politicians other groups saying this is horrible The us is giving away the internet russia and china can take it out Take it over now because the us is no longer in charge of the internet if we don't do this The us will run rampant on the internet darin I mean those are those are two sides of the same coin by the way I'm upset with this move are the people that would want to be Or want to have the option to control the internet see what i'm saying So that's so if you're like, oh, why is this person upset? It's because because now it's going to a multi stakeholder and not Them being able to like have a certain vetoes Yeah, so so there's a lot of things first of all Let's narrow this down. We're not talking about the internet So even the people saying if we don't do this the us will run rampant It's not true Uh most of the internet is not the domain name system. In fact should the domain name system disappear today You could still get two websites. You just have to know their number. It would be less convenient, right? Like you would have to know the ip address, right? And I haven't forgotten mine. It's still 127.0.0.1 and it has been for years. Always know where your home is uh Here is the other thing what the contract covered and what the department of commerce's uh, uh It was the department of commerce's NTIA the national telecommunications information administration That was involved in the domain name system process. What it did was very small I can I can sum up darin in one sentence. What is changing tomorrow? What is changing because I mean we look back 1995, you know, the the internet was something You know originally spawned out of the department of defense It was run by the u.s government and then in in 95 they're like, hey, let's privatize this thing And let's give it to these non-profit organizations to run But we still want to have like we want to be involved in this one little esoteric way Of having like kind of final say over a few little esoteric details Yeah, so the internet engineering task force is entirely run by a multi stakeholder model right now If if a multi-stakeholder model scares you you should know that the internet architecture board Also run by a multi stakeholder model I can that is going to take over this and has been contracted by the department of commerce to run it has also run under a multi stakeholder model for years And has been contracted to run the ia na as part of this. So here's what's changing tomorrow Changes to one file if you want if you request a change to one file the root zone file That's the table that says these are where all the roots should point to If you want to make a change to that one file, which is maintained by verisign a private company in the united states Those changes no longer need to be rubber stamped by the national telecommunications and information administration That's all that's changing In other words, the u.s government will stop checking to see if the form has been filled out correctly That's it instead. I can will be trusted to make sure the form is filled out correctly, which they've been doing all along this time Anyway, exactly And it's and it's and all of the input from governments You know, united states included have always been part of that multi stakeholder model Where everybody that's involved in the internet be it users or companies or governments all get equal say in making recommendations To this non-profit. Yeah, so if i'm and i'm the domain name I run the domain name dot eg right i want to change an ip address I used to send my request to ican And then ican would send that to verisign and wait for the nta a To rubber stamp it and then verisign would implement the change starting tomorrow if i'm Running the domain eg i send my ip address change to ican I can verifies the protocol and sends it to verisign to or i'm sorry verisign to verisign To implement and verisign implements the change, but but that's not what ted cruz said We're giving the internet to china though, right? No Now this is where the philosophical discussion begins because there is A an argument that Okay Now the government doesn't have leverage over the internet right because I guess The government is losing the ability to say hey nta a stop rubber stamping those until china backs off And bram breaks the domain name system. It's not very good leverage. It's a pretty blunt instrument to say Well, we're just not going to prove any changes to the root file system until china Does the thing we want right and then china forks the internet You've got bigger problems You've got and and the other thing is china can already censor their own internet russia can already censor their own internet so There is so much better leverage that the united states has and will continue to have the us government will continue to administer dot mill dot gov dot us and dot edu The us is not losing the control of those domains because they've had the control of those domains The us government will continue to be able to order domains blocked on dot org dot common dot net Because the companies that run those are in the united states Veri sign manages dot net and dot com. They're in virginia the public internet registry operates dot org also in virginia So they're subject to us law guess who else is also subject to us law and is in the united states I don't know I can It's right up the road there in los angeles In a sense. Well, this is this has actually has been like a A little bit of a rhetoric among, you know, internet policymakers of this whole like well, you guys know Yeah, okay fine us invented it and then they let it go but they didn't let it go completely So there has been that like come on when are they going to let it go completely? So that's that's finally happening. Yeah, and that and that that was one of the arguments people were making was if you leave this rubber stamping in place Even though it doesn't really change much to get rid of it The fact that it's there will make people on the other side of the issue Continue to point to it and say the us is too involved They they they'll do the same exaggeration in reverse Like the us controls the domain name system and we need to bring it under un supervision We need to have the eye a multinational organization control it instead of icon See that's the thing is we don't want the us government Governing the internet any more than we want the united nations governing the internet because it's not just nation states that are using this thing It is it is you and I it is corporations It is governments and so that is your multi stakeholder model um The interesting thing though that I find is that and I kind of find this a problem with the internet today Is that it's built on these centralized authorities? You know the underlying plumbing of the internet is what we're talking about here was built with the centralized management as for the essential resources of domain names and IP addresses, right? But in this modern era we have technologies like blockchains And these central points of bureaucracy are increasingly irrelevant So it's good that the united states government at least in namesake is getting Removed from that and it's it's more of a multi stakeholder giving Advice to a central authority. I think that eventually you could get rid of that central authority altogether that said I am actually really thankful that the authorities that be are actually you know that that actually govern these underlying technologies are generally Open they're diverse. They appeal to the multi stakeholders of the internet You know things like the internet engineering task force the internet governance form internet society Hell even the itu for a moment That's the united nations tried to placate industry and and they're part of the united nations. So, you know, yeah You can participate if you're like, who are these multi stakeholders? Well, if you're a government there's a restriction You have to be one of the 160 governments that are acting in an advisory role on one committee That committee must come to a consensus before it issues any advice to ican That's a hundred nations coming to a consensus. Thank you for a moment So that's how the government gets to affect ican is 160 nations have to come to a consensus Issue a piece of advice that icon is not bound to follow It's bound to consider it among the other advice it gets it also gets advice from The customer standing committee that monitors the ian a it gets it from the technology users And there is an open process that anyone including you can participate in and make your your wishes felt So your input is almost on par with all 160 governments This is actually really good because this takes, you know dominance of this sets precedent that hey You know, we're not letting the internet be run by the u.s Or any other government because there has been power plays in the past for governments to to Govern this governments of meat space to govern cyberspace space, which yeah, isn't theirs It's not your soil and and essentially this takes the wind out of that movement because a lot of the momentum Of hey, we need the un involved and and we need the governments to be overseeing this Was caused by the fact that they could point To the department of commerce Having this rubber stamp authority over changes to the root zone file Which seems ridiculous, but they could point to that and go see the us has too much power Over the internet you take that leverage you take that one little thing away, which happens tomorrow And then there's there's nothing for them to complain about there's no us government involvement That is in any way larger than any other government's involvement Every cook that owns a kitchen doesn't want other cooks in their kitchen If you go to the international telecommunications union, you'll find a bunch of governments that don't want industry people In their kitchen and if you go to industry, they don't want governments in their kitchen But we have this awesome thing where multi stakeholders are represented by these nonprofits And it's both industry and government and you and I and that's actually really heartwarming. Yeah, absolutely So, you know go go check out iCan if this really Concerned you get get involved you can uh internet users telecommunications experts anybody like that Should get involved in iCan so really it's this concern tomorrow that the internet becomes privatized not 1995 I mean that's the thing not like I know you're joking, but no nothing changes tomorrow Changes tomorrow in spirit, but in technicality in technicality the I haven't confirmed this but uh one thing I read was that none of the ian a staff are leaving They're just going to be under iCan and I don't even know when they say staff It might be one person to be honest john postel did this for years By the way, I wonder how much of a rubber stamp actually is and so if I had to guess It's that one guy wrote a script to check the protocol And he administers that and he will now work for iCan instead of the NTIA Yep, that's valid xml one lady. There's one lady looking over this like uh script still running good boss. I'm out I've got it. I've got it set up to email me if the script stops running. So um, no worries The gov bot 9 000 i'm on call It's just been replaced with multi stakeholder bot 9 000. Yeah All right, let's get to our pick of the day It comes from a listener who said hey, I always hear you talking about using a vpn when accessing the internet from public places I'm starting to do more freelance work and working out of coffee shops and such Which virtual private network company do you use and if you don't know what a vpn is It like routes all your traffic through a private server Instead of having it out on the open So first of all you got to find a company you trust because your data is going through their servers But it's better than having it out and about on an open wi-fi connection where any one in the coffee shop can see it Uh, and I use private tunnel which is run by the same folks who run the open vpn open source project Uh, I like it because you can pay for a certain amount of data At one time and then you just go until you use up all that data And this probably isn't good for private tunnels business model But I paid for like a gigabyte of data in night in 2012 and I still haven't run out Wow Yeah, yeah, you're not you're not using that one to watch the bbc. I player. I take it. No, I did I was what? Maybe I did. I mean, I'm not saying no, of course. I wouldn't do that. But no, I definitely used it to watch video Wow, yeah, just a gig Damn, no, it's lasted quite a long time. You your mileage may vary. I see I don't use it every day because I'm home I only use it when I'm on the road right because what what happens is when you're at home That's your public endpoint It hits the public internet at your house Whereas when you're at a coffee shop it hits the public internet at the coffee shop every time you use a vpn All you're doing is moving the endpoint so that it's like just imagine an ironclad ethernet cable So it's like, oh, you can't see what's in this until it gets to the tunnel Until it gets to your vpn service provider wherever they happen to be and then it becomes public I like to roll my own and if you'd like to learn how to do that yourself in five minutes Watch hack five season 20 episode 22 the five minute vpn build couldn't be easier Thank you scott for sending the email send your picks to feedback at dailytechnewshow.com You can find more picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks A bunch of good emails scott and iowa wrote about trying to exchange his note seven at a verizon store And they said well, you we've got the blue model and he's like well I don't really want the blue model. I'd like silver or black and they said no no silver or black That those had to be placed in quarantine I said they must have had the flu he called samsung and verizon and the only more information He got was that silver and black versions should be available october 10th Uh, it's hard to say what this means But my best guess is that it has something to do with the hongine shipping bankruptcy Which is also affecting iphone 7 shipments. I had tipped a big gym in our audience He's been keeping us all up to speed on this in our slack But essentially that should that company going into bankruptcy froze a bunch of Containers and shipping capacity While they worked out the bankruptcy and that has slowed some things down So that may be why you can't get the black and silver versions It's always a bummer when like your packets get to one router and then they just get hung up Yeah, just like looping in circles. Hopefully their ttl is high enough It's not going to be a big deal, but their packets are uh stuck in transit Yeah, no the ttl on silver note sevens is fine. Uh the ttl on that, uh fresh fish that you bought Mmm. Yeah That's a good point. And you know what? Uh, you can still get the note seven and black You just have to wait for it to get nice and charred Yes, uh, michael is a data center architect for a 75 000 seat company and said of apple's plans for the enterprise If apple wants to make major roads in business They're going to have to come up with a better support model for business. He he supports a bunch of iphone's ipads and macbooks He says they must realize bringing 50 ipads to the genius bar is not a viable option for most businesses They need to understand they have a part in troubleshooting why an apple laptop is transferring files slowly to a windows file server Enterprise will never be their homogenous walled garden solution. They have on the consumer side The enterprise solutions are needy, you know consumers are easy Or in comparison and it's where they've made, you know massive inroads. I mean it was gosh How many years has it been it's been almost 10 years since they killed x servers So I don't think of apple as an enterprise company anymore They're probably focusing on their core companies competencies where they're making the most money Well, but the reason he's writing this email is apple is making moves into enterprise and the way they're doing it is partnering So they're partnering with ibm. They're partnering with deloitte and tush Uh, and I think the response to michael is you need to Go find out if you can work with those companies because the the plan for apple seems to be We just want to provide the hardware. That's what we do. Darren's right. We don't like supporting people So we're just going to let ibm and deloitte and tush and others Administer those things and I think if you go through those new partnerships Then you'll get the support level agreements that you need Right. They might even be able to push apple to put a decent operating system on there that could do enterprise stuff Uh, that's that's a story that's a story for another day. Uh, finally regarding samsung's So-called exploding washing machines. They're washing machines that can get unbalanced and then destroy themselves Uh, tad wrote in and said as a sales associate with 15 years experience at a local independent appliance store That has been in business for more than 40 years I can tell you this issue can and has happened with other manufacturers You're absolutely right samsung is getting killed because of the recent issues with their phones All these machines have sensors to detect an out-of-balance situation and stop the machine to make the consumer rebalance the load It's a safety versus convenience issue If you make the threshold too low and the consumer is continually have to rebalance his load They won't like it. Don't make it sensitive enough and you have what's happening to the samsung washers Samsung seems to have missed the mark leaning more toward customer happiness than safety This problem could probably be fixed with the firmware update to lower the shutdown threshold But it's too late for that now customers will demand a hardware fix at this point I just want to see them racing that's all and yeah, you can do you can still do that with your samsung before it explodes Ted says he still watches the show on that samsung refrigerator from time to time Hello folks shopping for refrigerator In the Ted store buy this refrigerator It's awesome. I'll uh He says I hope those don't start exploding. They hopefully they will Thank you Darren kitchen for being on the show today. It's missed you man. Yeah, I missed you too. It's been it's been way too long It's good to do this. Um, and and yeah, I don't know. Go check out hack 5. We've been doing cool stuff Yeah, learn how to roll your own VPN. That's an older episode. You got new episodes all the time Hey, we just came back from Louisville, Kentucky where they have an amazing hacker con called derby con and they've got a really fun contest They are called hack my derby where you um Hack a derby hat into doing cool things that they weren't normally meant to do like one guy With a pineapple hooked it up to do interesting analysis of the wi-fi spectrum with a cool little display on the side Another guy had his running a ctf that you could actually hack his derby You even had a mud running on it, which was kind of cool. Oh really your derby hat running mud Probably not you should find out more over h a k 5.org And of course, uh, lenn peralta. Good to have you back. What have you been drawing there? Well, uh, listening to your discussion today about ican. Um, I I didn't really learn a whole lot Not that I didn't not that I didn't enjoy the conversation, but it was a little bit confusing So I decided to take it a totally different route if Fan of the it crowd Um, and you need a little bit of britcom experience with this. Uh, there's an episode of the it crowd where Jen is given the internet, which is just a box uh, and this is sort of the uh What how I felt that the ican thing is is uh Yeah, if they're listening what you have to say, this is what I feel it was it's just A box that really isn't anything given to someone who thinks it means a whole lot Uh, so they have to take care of it. But really? Yeah, not a whole lot happening there. Yeah. No, that's uh, it's kind of it's kind of dead on lenn. I think you do understand Trying to trying to understand and I didn't mean to knock I didn't I didn't mean to knock that I didn't learn anything But it was just it's a lot of information and uh, and what I got out of it was that not a whole lots changing Yeah, no, that's it forget all the information because you don't need to know it It's just the internet jen No, this is this is great. Uh fantastic. Thank you. Uh, and if folks want to check it out go to lemperaltestore.com, right? Yes, go to lemperaltestore.com Also at the store, there's some really cool t-shirts if you're a fan of stranger things that's up there There's also rick and morty election t-shirt, which I just put up yesterday. You may want to check out And if you want to get this print, it's right there on the front page. It's called I can explain And uh, and you can just you can get that or you can go to my patreon patreon.com forward slash len And you back to dts lover level and you get this in many more images Every every as digital files every week every day every every time they come out Go check them out folks. Uh help help len out. He's got great stuff there And uh, by the way, uh, we're going to be working on doing some giveaways of some of his art For our patrons as well. If you want to support the show, of course, you go to daily tech news show dot com slash support Or uh, you can go to patreon.com slash dts That is the place where you can can support the show on an ongoing basis And we have lots of cool perks and one of them soon may be uh, a little bit of len art So keep your keep their ears peeled for that Congratulations, andrew michael spence boyd, who is our latest supporter at patreon.com slash dts or rather. Thank you Not congratulations. 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Government say yeah, you filled your form out correctly. Yeah, right? It's just less paper. That's all it is. It's not even paper. It was all done electronically Knowing the u.s. Government, you'd have to like well actually you may be right darin. That's a good point. All right titles Can we get like mad props to dark redeemer? Wow, that is good. Sorry, uh, the domain's we name What is good? What do you make of these ad props? The domains we name stay mainly rain That's good It's really good I'm sorry, but I just can't I can't resist a my fair lady reference. You can't buy george. She's got it Why george? I think she's got it So You got any others you like in that that's good. Well, there's also um 127.0.0 1 there's no place like home, but I think we've used something like yeah I have a t-shirt that says that so yeah, that's a classic p6 version, which is colon colon one I can you can we all plan for I can't Yes, we can congress we can we can block this yes, I can um I am root Yeah, I am root Just you know, I like the ones that aren't getting any votes. There's one yahoo knows porn, but you know There's an I can has somewhere in here. I can has domain names. Yeah, I can't even right now I can't even that was a good one too Yeah, there was some chrome sweet chrome. That's pretty good. It ain't nothing but a g thing Well, the domains we name stay mainly in our rain is that the top of 16 votes That sounds really good more than double the second most popular So I go with that I'm good with that The rain we name may may be that's a really classic movie if you really think about it Oh, totally. It's a yeah, it's it's so horrible. It's a horrible movie. They're all horrible You ever seen hiji anyway I feel like twice in my life with jennifer lopez Isn't that jiggly that's jilly jiggly jiggly talking about the classics mate the classics Well, it's classics to you. I mean, yeah Classic with ben afleck j-lo Back when they talked Back when they talked in person face to face Back before he was batman talkies. Okay. Yeah But for the what the talkies you were talking about the talkies. I I don't know I'm sure you're one of those people that still fawns over breakfast at tiffany's back when people started talking But I just wish there was a That was true to the novel digitally erase mickey rooney and it's a perfect I almost did a really dumb thing I just would have bit it I was having a trouble clicking on this button on a website And I thought oh, well, maybe chrome just needs to restart and I almost restarted chrome right in the middle Oh All you need to do is hit control shift q don't do it and uh, it'll close every chrome. No because you know Wonderful like that Just uh, oh F disc Yeah F disc format reinstalled do da do da I heard that you could get ops and irc with alt f4 Nope Uh, we still have f keys I have f keys I have uh, yeah, scroll lock print screen pause break Wow You had a real keyboard. What would you rockin over there? It's a k120 Ooh a ko logitech k120. I know the exact keyboard. I was just uh, Hacking those in class actually it's uh, when I moved on from the uh, what's I'm blanket on the ps $12 special on amazon prime. Yeah, but what was the old ps2 collecting clack? Oh Yeah, the model m when I moved off of model m's to a usb keyboard Uh, the k120 became my new go-to. That's folk to you. Really? Yeah Because it just because it it's just you can beat it up. You can throw it anywhere Always works. Hmm I was always fond of the del quiet key back in the day. Well, let's see because you want quiet keys Uh, yeah, I don't know why I ever rocked that thing. It was too squishy looking back at you You know, you do some terrible things like wearing neon in the 80s where you're like, what was I doing? To in the 80s you used to have an ergonomic keyboard Speaking of the 80s last night we ate at the brown derby. I didn't even know those were around anymore Wait, yeah Is the brown derby there'll be a liquor store? No, it's a restaurant the restaurant. Yes, Len just had drinks for Beer he had a martini dinner You get some chips kids you'll be fine You gotta get the brown paper bag over the 40s and then for the event for dessert, it's just a bunch of American you you guys remember brown derby No, what is a brown derby? That's well, it's a restaurant too. Is that is that was that just here in cleveland? No, no Ella it started in l.a. Right like wasn't the original brown derby here and then it seemed like a hat Yeah, it was shaped like but That's herby's See brown derby gets mixed up for me gets mixed up with the ground round The arbiter thinking of is the sign but the restaurant itself was never shaped like This place is actually shaped like a hat the the restaurant the original. Yes the original one. Okay, so yeah, we found a brown derby I'm like I didn't even realize but it was weird because it was it was the food was pretty good The core was very 80s And then um and then uh music was all like 80s like I think it was just it wasn't even like In on purpose it was well the music has to be right like That's not something where they just playing the same cassettes for I don't know no because they were playing like Current songs but it mixed in there were other songs But like in most of them we're like this is just weird. This is like all it's all brown and wood Well, here's my guess is they just didn't redecorate long enough that they suddenly realized wait a minute Oh, it's we've been putting off paying for redecorating, but the 80s is back That's just saying this is this is a brand new This is a brand new uh Mall like strip mall. Oh, so it's not an original thing, but the brown derby I'm like I thought these places closed, but does anybody remember the ground round? Yeah, oh, yeah, we used to go to the ground round in st. Louis Uh, yeah, the ground round was a restaurant that was the most filthiest restaurant you'd ever go in Well, yeah, because you could throw peanuts on the floor, right? Yeah, they encourage you to throw peanuts and popcorn on the floor You know, it's funny my parents would let me eat at any non-chinese restaurant until junior high Wow Not even like mcdonald's fast food nothing. Oh fast foods mcdonald's But even then very sparingly like twice a year At most and I used to have to bug him because I wanted the happy meal toys because it's on tv And that's what they used to give out glasses like glass drinking. Yeah, right, right with the lead paint on outside And drink fruit punch out of it No, I remember trying to get the star wars glasses when those came out. I think that might have been burger king though Burger king. Yeah burger. I got four of the um, the great muppet caper I remember I didn't like burger king burgers My favorite was burger chef which got bought by hardy's eventually And then mcdonald's was okay. I was good with the mcdonald. I preferred burger chef mcdonald's is good I didn't like burger king, but I remember telling my mom we need to go to burger king She's like, well, you don't like burger king. I'm like, yeah, but I want those glasses I liked burger king because they had a pretty swank restaurant. They had like a fire pit like a fire In the middle of the restaurant they could open it. It was great burger burger king Yeah, it was it used their restaurant design used to look more loungy and they had like in the middle of it It was like uh, it was an open like Fireplace with a giant hood over it. Yeah, because then the flame broiled burgers So yeah, but you could sit next to it and you can feel the burger king burgers always tasted better But then the best burgers at least around here were for me personally We're roi rogers Can I hate that show just so you know, I just started wanting to insert that Fresh off the boat. I don't find it funny at all Yeah, uh, yeah, well also roger, uh, his name comes from roi roger. So Yeah, well, no, no that that's what you were named after right Actually, it's true. Tom is actually not being facetious. No for real. You were named after roi rogers My dad named himself roi and then the following part would be rogers Have you ever eaten in a roi rogers restaurant? No, I think my dad got it from the drink Oh, so you did they always tried to push that on me whenever I'd ask for a surely temple when it was little Right Yeah Like apple bees kind of thing in your life, I would just say no, I want to manhattan up Yeah, right. I want a long beach iced tea. Well, that's something that roger and I Long beach It's like full of plastic and Oh, I'm sure I'm sure it's like, uh, it's like a sex on the beach with a fuzzy navel in iced tea Oh man No need to work on uh on getting out to the west coast is some andy's frozen custard Yeah, we've got some frozen custard here in there. I'm surprised not andy's It ain't that well Not everyone can stomach and I prefer Ted Drew's Ted Drew's we have uh, we have east coast here frozen custard Which is pretty strong. I can't really take uh milkshakes and custard. I had to uh Have some Ted Drew's frozen custard sent from st. Louis to uh, Veronica Belmont and ryan block After the giants after the giants beat the cardinals in the nationally championship series and they liked it They liked it very much. Nice. I uh, what was funny is I gave them like some chocolate some cherry I you know mixed the flavors and then I gave them a bunch of frisco Which was the flavor I never ate because it's basically like I think it's like a vanilla with with pieces of fruit in it and some nuts because it's making fun and uh They were like, I really like the frisco. It was good But she didn't realize it was a there was a knock on san francisco. It was yeah, it was a tease Yeah, I wanted to insert this to ken since it's faster than typing it ken I don't think uh fresh off the boat. It's funny because it's basically my life And so I take too close to home. It is What what what happens an asian dad buys a steak restaurant in florida my dad buys a steak restaurant in the middle of Ripped from the pages of roger's life Like the thing is the the the author's what five five years younger than me So I I was totally not into the hip-hop urban Uh music scene until like college. So I totally missed I totally missed the boat. You missed the boat That one, but also it's just like hey it reminds. It's just a little annoying because I hate thinking about back Like it's a lot of long hours And that's the other thing the kid doesn't really work those long hours that I worked long hours in the back sweeping cleaning washing dishes running in and setting the alarm after the uh the the um Clark guy or the pest pest control guy sets off one of those Uh cockroach bombs in the restaurant and I got wait. I'm talking about the show or your life. I can't tell It's my life I had to run in there and then I take like a wet rag and cover my mouth So I would breathe in any of the pesticides and then punch in like the 12th digit code to set the alarm Make sure all the doors were locked in the red back out holding my breath for like 30 seconds We're running around like a bit with my head cut off your dad made you do that. No my mom made me do Like oh no, of course not my mom did How old were you? Uh, I was I was like a freshman Okay, well, yeah any younger would be yeah He's got young lungs. He can take it. Oh, hey, by the way, I forgot to mention this during the actual show Uh, I'm working on a new comic Uh called heel cut and it's not the there's nothing there right now But if you follow me on snapchat or instagram, you can watch the whole process. I'm in the inking process Uh, I'm halfway through uh, and then I'm also going to do colors The only thing I won't do I don't think we'll put will be the lettering Uh, so you have to uh, so eventually when I make it public you'll have to read what it's all about But you'll be able to watch the entire thing being made And uh, just follow me on snapchat or instagram. It's lend parol I am enjoying the snaps that you've been doing and I know you're doing on on instagram too Are you snapping on instagram or snapping? I am I am are you snapping on message message your day or i'm live streaming I'm snap chatting i'm snap Gramming i'm a twitch snapping. I'm twin. I'm twindering. I'm Wow I'm a swipe on that one Swipe left to twinder Right So can you snap? Snap peas did you say? Ah, roger's a dad I can't help it. He gets to do that I'm jealous should have a kid just so you just so you have a license to make funny jokes Whoa, you need licenses to tell those Yeah, without if we're with it reduces the scorn level that's all Like if you're scorn the better If you're if you're sober single and male and you rip one of those jokes out I don't know most people would kind of raise their eyebrows like But if you're an old guy have a kid and Send my sober Speaking speaking of which I went I don't know if I talked about this on I don't think no I did. I don't think I did because I wasn't here last week. I uh I was trying to figure out my halloween costume And I went through a big long rigmarole of trying to you know trying to decide what I wanted to do And I was going to do something that was going to embarrass my kids So I had to actually ask them like would this embarrass you because I was going to dress up as spider man So with this with this embarrassing. They're like, yes, don't do that. So I ended up getting um, I ended up getting Deadpool Which is I don't know that it's it looks really good. It's a really cool costume Uh, and it's not as embarrassing. It's not super skin tight or weird. I wanted to do magic mic But I don't have enough muscles. Oh magic might could be good. But you'd have to be uh, I would buy in muscles You'd have to you could do that. You could do that in oct in october and I must get one of the muscle costumes Yeah No, no, that's cheating top That's it's halloween. There's no cheating. Yeah I mean, you know, if wesley crusher had to wear one come on Yeah, and and you can do it because it's warmer out there That's like saying, uh that lenn won't have actual swords. It isn't actually a superhero And so it's cheating that pull really isn't a super is more of an assassin He looks cool. Yeah, my my Deadpool looks really great. If you follow me on instagram, I have a picture of him up Yeah, I saw your instagram shot and it was awesome It's really cool on instagram. It's the best I can't I've got the I've got the two swords on my back and it's it's good Are they real swords though? No, they're not They're not cheating I have I have but I I bought all the pieces man. I got the Swords back here. I got the two holes. Did you have to buy them separately or is this just like a complete outfit? Um, the the the the actual outfit itself was one thing and then I sort of uh added things Like oh, you got a Deadpool onesie. Is that what you're telling me? Oh, no, okay, but now I want that to be It's an actual like fake leather suit that is super hot um And uh, and one of the only reasons I I I was thinking of doing is because I've lost some weight So I'm like, I can do this. This will be good. That's why I'm off to the world I can actually I can actually wear this thing Uh and not be embarrassed, you know, so that's why but I had to ask the kids first You know what? I know too many people are like in the cosplay and they're really good at it That I just like well, I'm just gonna feel like an idiot. So I guess Because those those people like put so much time and effort and like their stuff looks so amazing I was like, yeah, you know, it's like, you know, someone makes like Oh man Deadpool onesie 40 bucks. I was actually about to share that tom because uh Hi And free shipping, you know, I mean look at the price Yeah, that guy looks so thrilled to be in that costume too. I mean, can I A little better? There we go. Yeah, look at the expression. That's a happy guy. Oh, yeah He's so Deadpool Am I looking at Deadpool? I can't tell because it's so good I couldn't afford the mask Oh This is all I could afford I'm dead pool. I lost my job at Roy Rogers Brown derby closed, this is all I can afford now I don't I lost that osha suit against ground round when I slipped on their peanuts Yeah, like I don't understand that they just let it sit. That's like a That's like a health code violation No, that was you just threw popcorn and peanut shells They would do the same thing at uh, that burger joint. It's really good. Uh, five guys Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, they used to do that in Oakland right now at They clean it up at the end of the night. Don't they? Yeah, ground rounded too. Yeah, but you have to you cannot you cannot run a business in California that way You walked in you walked in and it was it's right on the marina Hang on having having dealt with california health The health department when they come in for a check they are super tight like about that's like no No, love those guys. They're super tight They come in with flashlights and it's kind of weird. It's kind of reminds you of a drill instructor inspecting a barracks They like coming with the white glove and they're wiping areas that you don't think to clean They come in with a flashlight. They look at every nook and cranny Oh, they've never been to Quinn's lighthouse in Oakland Yeah, well Quinn's lighthouse might just be flagged now Please go. This is a this is a tip You'll see a brown minivan pull up and screech to a halt On tuesdays, california health department All right, well, we are published. Thanks everybody for watching. I hope you have a lovely weekend I'm gonna make my pancit canton. Yeah, enjoy I'm hungry now