 Hello and welcome to the live stream today. We're talking about Ecamm live 4.0 There is no official and release date for it But I just thought it'd be useful to go through and have a look at all of the updates that we have got coming in Ecamm live 4.0 Anyone who's on the beta program will know that there have been lots of new features added and there's always new releases coming out And it was only when I went back to sort of look through all of the release notes of all of the different Versions of the the beta that I realized just how many there are So I thought it was just sort of reflecting on that because when you get these sort of incremental beta updates You sort of lose track of you know, what's the the new features and what are you know? Not yet in the sort of main sort of public release if you like of of ecamp. So if I just come over to this This shot here. We're on beta number 24 of ecamm live 4.0 at the moment now They did say by they I mean the massive team of developers Ken and Glenn the twins In their Q&A last month or December whenever it was that there's going to be no new sort of major new features added from now So there have been some really pretty big features that I'll be running through that have been added So there's going to be no new sort of major things added Although there was an update that came in just yesterday beta 24 and that added something to me that for me is massive Which is that it now takes comments from Amazon live and can bring those in so this is something where not many platforms really I think there's be live which is a sort of multi-streaming web-based platform They have Amazon comments, but nobody else seems to have Amazon comments So it's great that we've got those in but in any case before digging into any specific comments But that was just yesterday that that came out Let's just have a little look at all of the the new features that have been added in over the past 23 And as you can see the list sort of just keeps going on and on and on now some of these are fixes as you can see some of them are You know adjustments and tweaks and whatever, but there is still a mass of Really sort of new features that have been added. So that's what we're going to be doing today It's just sort of running through all of these things to see What's the some of these sort of headline features are a Yeah, kath great to see you here and great to see you too, mr. Moderator the moderator himself Paul Duncan Great to see you in the chat as well. But look at this. I mean, I'm talking and it's still going on and on It's just never ending scrolling of features And with that that's beta 4 that I think that was the first one I mean But these things just come out and you'll get like one big major beta release And then there'll be a load of sort of small incremental fixes and then another big one And by the way, if you are not on the beta program and you'd like to join it There's no sort of barrier to entry as it were you can just go and download it the link is in the description It runs in parallel To the to the main ecam version so you don't need to worry about, you know Do you have to choose one from the other? They're both two separate apps that will sit in your dock and you can choose one or the the other And there is an ecam live beta facebook group as well. I've linked that into the description And obviously there's a specific channel in the discord for it as well Um, so just a quick couple of hellos again. Hey kath great to see you here. Look at that My thing is a bit small, isn't it? There we go Don't take that and clip it and take that out of context There we've got mr. Moderator Paul in in the house as well Rebel without a reason great to see you here as well and rich it is indeed a A massive list. Hope your trip all went well. I think you're I think you're back now But I hope you had a great trip rich Um, so so let's start with one of these headline new features Which is multi streaming and that is something that has been You know a lot of people have been asking for this and I actually put on the thumbnail I mean this thing my my thumbnail which was this for this particular live stream These are things that I know that people have been asking for for a long time in the ecam group And we've basically got all of those things and it's it's amazing really that they have sort of packed all of those things into this This one this one update that is coming soon But multi streaming is a thing that a lot of people have asked for and the funny thing about Multi streaming for me is that I didn't really do multi streaming before And then just around the time that we got it in the beta. I started producing my my podcast and my live streamer backstage podcast I actually stream to linkedin and to amazon because i'm interviewing fellow live streamers about their Their their journey if you like and how they're using live streaming for their business Hence the linkedin side of things but then also we spend some time at the end talking about studio setups So hence the the the studio side and the products and so that's why i'm streaming that to amazon So although I post it on my youtube channel And if you're only watching me on youtube then you'll see that I do post the recordings But they're actually streamed live to as I say amazon and linkedin And so I was you know over the moon that we'd got this this multi streaming because that would enable me to do that And I promptly cancelled my restream subscription, which I was only ever really using for Doing like restream pairs and things like that And then I realized that there is sort of one caveat with this multi streaming Which is that it does take the sort of lowest common denominator in terms of Stream resolution So if you're going to stream as I have been to amazon and to linkedin Linkedin the resolution the max there is 1080 whereas on amazon It's actually 720 so what that means is when you're in ecam and you have to set your resolution the stream resolution You have to set it to basically what the lowest is Because the others can't You know amazon won't be able to accept a 1080p. You have to be very specific about what you're sending it So right at this moment. Um, I'm still using restream ironically for the the time now that I'm starting to um To to stream to multiple platforms And that is because with restream what I can do is And I should say as well. It's because I'm recording these. I want to have the higher resolution recording So what I can do is I can set my ecam to record at 4k and then what I actually do is have restream open in the browser and use the ecam live virtual camera To go into the browser and then the browser is then restream and that is then streaming to the platforms There's another side benefit to this Which is restream then also keeps a recording And also keeps the connection open if anything happens with You know with with ecam or on anything on my side or anything like that So there's another little side benefit there. But yeah, that thing of having A different resolution for your recording and for streaming is not not there yet So we'll put your feature requests into ecam for that so that we can actually toggle different stream resolutions per per stream The other thing I should say about the multi streaming just so that people are aware is that Whereas a service like restream or stream yard or anything like that They are web based and basically what you're doing is you're streaming out once to that platform And then they're dealing with all of the you know streaming to all the different platforms With ecams multi streaming you're basically streaming to each individual destination From your computer and what that means is you need to make sure that you've got the bandwidth to actually handle You know a stream going to youtube a stream going to facebook a stream going to wherever it is So you're basically multiplying The bandwidth requirement that you've got for you know sending up the the stream going to those platforms ecam does now come with a A built-in speed test though, which is really helpful So let me just Open this For a second. I'll come over to my demo mode for a second and I'll show you in if I come into settings We've now got a setting in if I come to stream We've got this setting here where you can choose the required speed For however many places you're streaming to and it will actually tell you the required stream speed requirements So so that is showing you basically how many different places you can stream to at your given resolution So at the moment, I think this is actually in in 4k. So that's basically telling you how much your requirement is So just think if you want to stream to 10 destinations, you're going to need a high You know up a bandwidth for the the upload So just do bear that in mind. That is a sort of limitation of it that Sometimes people ask for all these things But then maybe some of them might not be possible on your your computer so that is the multi-streaming With multi-streaming as well. They have updated the scheduler as well So it's now easier to schedule to the different platforms I can't really demonstrate that whilst I am actually streaming, but yeah, they've updated the the scheduler So now you can basically just add, you know, whichever destinations you want it to go to and A lot of the sort of fixes that they've been over though all of those beta releases have been Basically little tweaks and adjustments and that's obviously the point of beta is for people to try all of these things out Um, let me just have a quick check in here with the the chat It is indeed a going to be a massive update. I always feel that I mean the 3.8 or whatever It was the the last main release, you know, that the whole tagline for that was game changer But they all seem to be quite quite a lot of game changer really Hey, Jim, great to see you in the chat. Thanks for stopping by Can you save profiles for use on the new beta? Yeah, you can actually because what happens is Although the beta and the regular version sort of stand side by side as it were as separate apps They do still share the same sort of underlying profiles that you've got so if you set up some profiles in the beta and then go into the regular version You will see that those profiles are there And there's something too that what you may want to do is if you're experimenting with things in the in the beta Yeah, you may want to just sort of duplicate an existing profile and play with it in there Just so that there's nothing happens that you go back to the original version If you do flip back to the original version or the the main version whatever you want to call it I'm not quite sure what the name for that is but yeah, if you're flipping from the beta to the regular Then yeah, if you've made some changes in the beta That I don't know can't be implemented quite the same in the regular version Then yeah, that's just something to be conscious of so you may want to just sort of duplicate your profile And have that as the one that you're working with I tend to just use the beta all the time I mean, you've always got to give that caveat of Don't use the beta for mission critical work or anything like that But I kind of use it exclusively really and I found it to be pretty stable There's only been a couple of things where there's been like an actual bug that has caught me out as such So so yeah, but they yeah, they do work. They do run in parallel, but they share the profile So just go ahead and just sort of duplicate a profile if you just want to have a play around with it Um and are those embedded links? Um The I'm lost the context for that. Is that the links to the to the beta? um I'm not sure what the context just refresh my memory what we were talking about there If you're talking about links to the beta and links to the facebook group and so on that I mentioned earlier Maybe that then I put those in the the description of the the the livestream not the the chat but the description Hello marine axe. Thanks for kicking the door in I shall put that back on its hinges a little bit later Great to see you here all going there all going well. So um, that is um multi stream the other thing about Multi streaming where am I now? I've actually mentioned it already. Never mind. There isn't another thing about multi streaming It was the resolution thing that I wanted to just address but there we go Uh, I see for do Do png files show up in ecamm or only jpeg? Yeah, png files show up indeed in in ecamm Let me just get that Message up. There we go. Um, yeah any any image file that you've got You can just basically drag and drop it into ecamm and it will it will show up In fact, this one here that I just dragged over the top This one that is just a png file. I can zoom out That's just a png file and you can sort of move it around on the screen put it wherever you want And yeah, so just dragging and dropping stuff the same goes for movie files actually dragging and dropping them Onto the screen just just works and by dragging and dropping them onto the screen What I mean is if you've got a an image file You just literally drag and drop it over this this is called the main window this one here That's got all the controls on it drag and drop it and it will drop onto there So so yes in answer to your question. They do indeed except png or jpegs Um for streaming through amazon and such Um For so the the embedded links. I'm still not entirely sure the uh, the the uh, the thing there Um, if you mean the yeah, I'm not I'm still not sure the context of that I'm probably just being dumb that often it happens I find that I lose about 75 of my brain processing power whenever I'm live streaming for some reason Um, yeah, I'm still not quite sure what what the context of that is so are those embedded links Uh for streaming through amazon and such Um, yeah, still still the way I mean the way it works is yeah in amazon you have um Uh, are those embedded links that let you stream onto amazon And so when you're streaming onto amazon, yeah, it's a bit of a bit of a weird thing with amazon live streaming In fact, let me just show you this because uh with amazon what happens is You uh, you basically have a um, an app on amazon And the way it works is you, uh Run the live stream from the amazon app, which is a bit of a pain to be honest I don't quite understand why they've done it in this way I can understand that you've got to set the thing up But you can't even set the stream up for an amazon live stream on the browser You have to open this amazon live app And of course when you do a demo it it always seems to take forever to load up. Um, but let me just show you this is So you've got this amazon live app And there you basically schedule your stream And then once you've scheduled a stream if I go in and just I'll just duplicate one of these and show you Let me see. I'll just schedule a new stream. This will make sense in a minute You've got to add at least one product. Let me just quickly add a product Okay, and then you get a link from the amazon app Let me give it a title as well give it a random title Okay, so with the video source on the amazon app You can because what they're doing is they're setting it up so that you can stream from the the phone You're probably not going to be able to see that never mind But you have to basically select that you're going to use an external camera And then you get the stream key so uh for amazon Yeah, you get this external link and a stream key and so when you're scheduling in In uh in ecamm then basically there's a place to select amazon and then you paste in the The stream link that you get from amazon and so that's how it streams to to there I can't really demonstrate this unfortunately because as i'm live streaming I can't go and schedule a new stream But um, I have got a video about about amazon live streaming on my channel I think but i'm going to do a whole series on on amazon specifically, you know, sort of getting up and running with it So, uh, I don't feel i've answered that very well, but there you go I'll I'll try and do better in the future with an actual dedicated video um So you have a uh an iMac uh 2020 where's this gone? You have an iMac 2020 which does not have the m1 chip does ecamm 4 allow for more than four guests on mac with No, so the limit for the um for ecamm so i'll i'll come on to that in fact because That is one of the next features is about this interview mode, which is that um You uh, you can now have on m series max you can have up to 10 guests as opposed to the current limit which is four but Yes, uh, first of all, sorry a high comic boom. Great to see you here But yeah, the um the limit is still there of four for uh the intel max And it's just because of the the the processing power required. So Yeah, sorry about that. It is uh, it's just still four for that Um, I mean that's something to bear in mind though with all of these things Where we're doing either multi streaming multiple, uh, you know Additional guests because that is basically inbound signals from all of those people as well. So that is a bandwidth requirement Uh, you know to receive all of that and then there's processing of you're not just processing one video on the screen If you've got 10 guests you're processing 10 videos on the screen and so on So it is it's just down to the the process of power required And I guess the really ecam have just got to be conscious of not giving people a load of features That they then go on turn on and try and use when the hardware won't won't deal with it. So Yeah, unfortunately the four limit the four guests limit still does apply to the the m1 chip um and uh, the other thing about the interview mode as well, which is as upgraded is previously the The feed from the interview guest was 720 whereas now it's 1080p On on those those guest feeds as well. So that was you know, they would upscale it and it does You know ecam does a great job of upscaling. I mean, this is now a sony zve 10 But prior to that for the past 18 months or whatever i've been using a canon EOS 60d 12 year old camera plugged in over usb So I was only ever getting a 720 signal out of that in any case over usb And so so ecams just been scaling up. So all of my videos for the past however long Have technically only been a feed coming in from the camera at 720, but ecams just upscaled it to whatever So it does do a good job of upscaling, but I digress the point is though that yeah interview mode is now 1080 rather than 720. So all of those individual feeds are 1080 So another feature that has been added and by the way, I should just say that there's all of these new things that have been added and one of the One of the things that i'm going to be doing is updating all of my ecam live masterclass. So my ecam live masterclass is over 140 Lessons that are basically taking everyone from beginner through to advanced of ecam live and all of the associated things around that as well and if you want to try it out go to ecamlivemasterclass.com And if you do sign up to that then you get lifetime access and that includes all future updates to ecam as well So the idea being that it is your sort of online encyclopedia if you want to find anything out It's all subdivided into short little lessons So if there's anything more you want to know how to do you'll be able to just go into this one place And find it and as I say it's lifetime access with all future updates And I'll be updating all of the videos In line with all of the updates for ecam as soon as they are in those major releases So as soon as ecam 4 is out, this will all be refreshed where necessary to include all of those updates Part of the reason for doing this is I've got so many videos on my channel all about ecam But technically, you know of large percentage of them are out of date because some or all of the information You do differently now So that was the reason for me to create it and as I say you can find out more at ecamlivemasterclass.com So just to to say something Yeah, I totally agree marine X who the heck wants to wrangle 10 guests on screen It is pretty Pretty epic really there is another side to that though, which is that you may well have 10 people calling in But then you know only have some of them on screen So there was previously a limit of four even just to be in the the waiting room So at least now you've also got the option to have maybe more people dialed in As it were and then you know if you're doing a sort of panel thing where you want to have you know Four people on screen and then you know another four if you're doing like a virtual conference or something like that There is that limit, but I know there will be people that will have 10 people on screen and it's a little bit too too much I certainly don't know wrangle all of those people for sure Hey Parker great to see you here as well. Thanks for stopping by And mr. Elo great love to see the avatar avatar there as well Um, oh, thanks dina. Thanks for stopping by and thanks for the wise words. I'll I'll pay you Pay you send the you the check in the post I wonder how ecamm and youtube's new gove live together feature will play um I've not really played with a go live together feature and I'd I'd got it in my head that that was a mobile thing or maybe maybe wrong about that, but The thing about with any of these features and I'm just purely speculating But anything where you've got a virtual camera going in or you know, you're streaming Ecams basically just replacing, you know, whatever that streaming interface is So I'd thought that the go live together thing. I thought from what I'd seen that was a mobile thing But if it is something that can be just just doesn't regularly with youtube I would imagine that you know from just each person's perspective They would just be feeding in that, you know, their their side would come from from ecamp. So Yeah, I'm not sure about that. I don't know if it does the go live together I'm just purely speculating as I say Is that where you can have something streaming to two places at once? As in two different channels a bit like the restream pairs As I say, I thought it was a mobile thing where one person streaming and someone else jumps on that way, but we'll see Yeah, you are gonna need for that multi streaming You're gonna need a host who is certainly in control to to wrangle all of those people So that was yeah the multi streaming really and the interview mode Another big one though is the well two things actually that are kind of linked Which is the camera switcher and the isolated video feed So this is another one of these ones that a lot of people have asked for isolated video And what does that mean? Well, that is where basically you can be streaming But you're recording individual video feeds as well. So just like now I'm speaking to you But then maybe I've got another camera angle over here. I've got another one over here Well, what if you wanted to actually record those as individual Camera feeds as well or you know more often the case It's if you are doing something with an interview and where you want to have an individual video of each of your guests For example, because they might be especially with 10 guests might be little squares on the screen Maybe you want to keep the sort of full screen or full resolution feed from those guests As something that you're going to use to to repurpose um, so So just coming on to this, uh, mr MR 1950 or mr 1950. Hello, great to see you here. Whoops. Uh, put that back again Um, anyway, ecam iso side by side video anyway to pull that off. So if you mean, um Well, we I'll I'll just explain a little bit more about iso video. Shall I maybe maybe it'll get answered Um, and hello miss houston. Great to see you here And much joy to you too um, so the way that the um, the iso works is it's kind of in tandem with this new camera switcher that we've got in some respects So let me just come into my demo mode and I'll show you how that looks um In the the top corner of uh, ecam now We've got this extra little icon just up in up in the top corner up there Which opens up this camera switcher now, you'll remember. Oh, I'll say you'll remember like it's not there It's probably just there right now, but I've turned it off online. That's why but we do have this camera switcher Which is on the screen. So this is how it is, you know presently Um, now I always found that a little bit of an annoyance because I don't tend to use the scene source Um as a camera I tend to use camera overlays instead. Um, and in that case This was a little bit redundant for me in that case because it didn't actually switch the camera overlays It only switches when you've got the scene source. So one thing that they've done in The update is actually allowed you to toggle that off So you can come into settings general and uh show camera switcher in main window so we can turn that one off Um, and then it just disappears But we've now got this new floating window which is a completely separate camera switcher Just like this and what that allows you to do is not only switch the cameras from this separate window Which you could do from the little window before but it's actually far more powerful than that because a lot of people want to have Something like you may see, you know on an 8m mini or something like that You can have it putting out to a monitor that just basically shows you all of the different cameras You've got attached as a way to monitor them So this can be used in effect like that because now we've got this floating window You can actually zoom in on the cameras and zoom out So I could just have you know a a monitor that is a just sort of View of all of the different cameras that I've got attached Now actually I have got different cameras attached. I've got more than this But just as before in the or just as we can currently do I always say before it's just because I don't use these things As we can do in the current version of ecamp Is you can come into camera and you can see you've got a list of all the different cameras that you've got attached And you can choose which ones that you want to include in that camera switcher So here you can see that there's some of these that I've just deselected because I don't want them to be included Well, we can also do that here So where I've just got these four primary cameras that I want to include in my ecamp camera switcher I can also come down here and click on this little plus icon and we can add Another camera. So these are the ones that is currently not in the camera switcher So those ones down there are not in the camera switcher. So I could just add those in if I wanted and they would just appear here So that is what's a one use case of this camera switcher is just being able to have You know a sort of monitor window to see what all of your cameras are and as I say for For this, you know, I pretty much know that these are all just different views of the same thing But it does also add in the guests. So if you've got multiple different guests in That can be useful if the guests aren't necessarily in the scene and to come back to that point We were talking about with, you know, who would have 10 people in the in the stream Well, maybe as I say, it might be, you know, 10 of people four people on the stream and another four waiting or whatever it is You know, depending on how your panel is running Well, this would mean that you would be able to see, you know, what was going on with those other guests Even if they're not directly in the in the scene as such And the other thing that is useful in here is You'll know that we've obviously got camera settings camera effects where you can change the different thing, you know settings of your individual cameras Well, we can actually sort of easily access this access this from here as well. So if I click on this one This is the little camera icon Just here the little magic wand icon, I should say and if I click that you'll notice that what happens is It should change to let me come over to here. It should change to that particular camera. So it's changing the The the camera effects to that camera and obviously you can just come and do it in here as well But I just find that if you've got these things these two things open Using this to change the settings is is, you know, quite an efficient way to to do it The other thing that you've got as well is We have got these showing in this window, but what if you just want an individual? You know camera output of Any one of these you can actually select. So Show source in separate window. So let me say I want to show this one show source in separate window It's probably going to put it somewhere. I don't want it. Oh, surprisingly. It's put it right there So the use case for this is Imagine if there's one particular camera that you want to have going out to a monitor, you know in a studio or something like that Then you can actually pop each of these out individually into their own window as well Show in separate window That's come somewhere massive You get that out of the way I'll make that a bit smaller It's not letting me make that smaller. I tell you I'll just close that and I'll pretend that never happened Something weird's going on there. That's with my computer rather than rather than this. Let me show this one in a separate window That's a bit better. Um, so yeah, if you wanted to, you know, you might have a dedicated monitor for each of these And obviously this can move over to another monitor I've just got a monitor over to the side so I can move it over to there But there's lots of, you know, reasons why if you're doing something in a sort of more professional studio situation That you might want to have these things displayed in their own windows on a dedicated monitor Or something like that. So that's another nice little feature of the camera switcher and I'll just um Come to that in a minute. Actually, I'm just talking to myself here. Hey James Great to see you here. Thank you for stopping by Comic boom. Just to quickly answer this I'd love if ecam had a feature to allow recording on a youtube short template as opposed to only the full 16x9 I can do shorts on my phone, but it would be cool if ecam allowed it to So you can actually do that. Um, if you come into the output here And then you go to options stream size. Sorry stream shape. I should say The default here is 16 by 9 as you can see But you can actually do it tall nine nine by 16 I can't do that right now because it is grayed out because i'm streaming obviously But what you'll find is when you do that You will notice that the ecam window looks exactly the same aspect ratio as this However, it's the strip down the middle. You'll you'll see what I mean if you try it But there's a strip down the middle So if you see the ecam main window still looking like this with all of the controls But there's a black strip down the middle or or rather two at the either side And you'll find that there's that central area that you can put, you know stuff in and the same You know resolutions will apply so you can still come in here Change the stream shape to tall And the stream size will still apply So if you've got 4k it will be 4k vertical and if you've got high resolution It will be you know instead of 1920 by 1080 it will be 1080 by 1920 And yeah, that's the way that I've recorded pretty much all of the shorts or long form videos that I've That I've recorded so yeah, you certainly yeah, it certainly can can do that So I digress. I just want to want to declare that off while I've noticed it Hey chris, great to see you here as well. Thanks for stopping by I always appreciate the people staying up late in the uk Or maybe it's just me that I'm weird that I go to bed really early So the other thing about the camera switcher though, and this is really quite a massive one For a number of reasons is as well as having all of these different cameras in this switcher What they've also got is this thing called place holder cameras And this is signified by at the top you can see all sources Whereas over here you can see a and b and that is for an a and b camera Or in fact, you can add multiple so here you can see I've got camera a and I've selected what camera that is Here I've got camera b and I've selected the camera there camera c camera d and so on and you can add in multiple different cameras Now why is this important? Well, there's a couple of reasons first of all first of all is There is a slight issue with Cam links so the cam link 4k that a lot of people use for Going into taking their camera the hdmi from their camera into ecum Then they'll use these cam link 4k is a capture card but the There's an issue with the mac does not give them all a unique address or they do not give the mac a unique address And so what that can mean is If you've got multiple cameras plugged in with say one two Three or in keith bell's was case seven capture cards Then what can happen is when you shut down your mac and then reopen your mac again Sometimes the mac might get those in different orders and what that means is you've set up your scenes in ecum And then suddenly what you thought was your primary camera is now showing up in a scene with a different camera And so it can get them all sort of switched around That is an issue that there is a another fix for this by the way Which is to get a powered hub that they plug into and then just basically start them all in sequence So if you've got one with you know little switches on You can basically power on the cam links in a certain sequence every time and then it will maintain that that thing But that's a bit of a work around But what ecum have done then is they've put in this concept of placeholder cameras And so that means that when you're building out your scenes Instead of selecting if I just come back to my demo mode instead of like for here For example, if I was going to add a camera overlay, where's my overlay? I'll just add another random camera overlay I made that a bit smaller. Whoops. That's a bit too small probably Instead of coming into the the selector here where we select the camera instead of Choosing a specific camera like the canon or the capture card or whatever You've now got these ones up here, which are camera a camera b camera c and whatever This is however many the default will be a and b by the way But then you'll find that as you add more into this switcher, they will appear in there So that is really useful for a couple of reasons. First of all, it means that If you set up your scenes and you're setting up lots of different scenes Just use the This one here the the placeholder cameras So choose camera a b and c and then come into the Switcher and select the camera that you want to assign there Then if you do have multiple cam links, for example, and you restart Your computer and you find that they're in the wrong place instead of having to go through each scene Individually to reassign the camera. You can basically just come in here and say well actually This one I want to be you know this other one For example change that to that and it will just update all of those Those scenes as as necessary So if I come back in here switch that one out So that is the way that you can do that now. I've done here. I've I've actually switched the scene source So let me let me do this. I'll just come in here and switch this one out for here Where are we now? Ah, it's because I've I've locked this that's why And by the way, if you have got the the the reason for that happening by the way that was a user error The the scene as well You can obviously switch cameras. So if you've got the scene source So this the main camera in the background is the scene source So now I can just switch out cameras in the scene source by clicking on any one of these as well So I can swap to any one of those those cameras But that is one reason to use the the placeholders is it means if ever you need to go and you know Or you move your cam links around or you switch your cards out or however You can always just go and easily reassign those another reason why this is useful though Is if you are somebody who has a business or wants a business where you actually provide pre-made scenes for people So so that is something where you might want to create a whole you know series of Of you know either a template that you want to provide someone as a download And then in that case you can just put placeholder cameras in each one Where they need to be you know for their main camera or whatever And then the the user or the person on the other end can then just go and select their camera Once for each of those placeholders and it will populate them all in the right place Or maybe you're doing something where you're producing something within a team And you know one person's creating the scenes and the other person is actually Running the show or whatever This just sort of speeds up that whole workflow So there's another reason though to just talk specifically about these placeholders though Which is that um We talked about iso video and that is kind of linked to this this camera switcher here Or specifically the placeholder cameras. So iso video allows you to record A an individual video as well as anything else that's going on in the scene So let's say i'd got a scene maybe something more like More like this one for example, I might be have a scene like this Which is actually just sharing part of the screen Let me just move this one out of the way So this this scene that i've got here Might be what's going out live right now and it's just basically a screen share It's got my camera in it But let's say that I wanted my my full frame camera feed as well So as well as this I also wanted to be capturing the main sort of full frame camera Well, that's what iso video is it's going to capture not just what's going out on the recording But these these other cameras as well and that is in uh stream So they you'll notice as well by the way just the ecam live preferences window itself They have made a couple of tweaks to this in terms of or adjustments that they've sort of split things out and so They have now got this recording tab So previously they had stream and video and audio and there was something to record iso audio before we could do that Since I forget which version number that came in but now basically this isolated stuff to do with recording They've moved it all into this recording tab So here you've got the option to record all broadcasts And then what we've got is the option to stream two of your connected cameras So there is that limit at the moment. I've got four cameras connected at the moment I can't record all of those as isolated feeds. It's only two of them And again, this comes down to a processor thing, you know If you if you open it up to be able to record multiple different Cameras, then, you know, people could quickly chew up all of their processing power because it is basically doing, you know Multiple times the workloads if you you're streaming at 4k and you're also recording a camera at 4k or in fact I think the limit of the the cameras it might be 1080 in fact But in any case, you know, if you're streaming it and then you've got recordings of each of these individual cameras The computer is having to actually encode that video Of each of those live as well So you have got this added workload that you need to just bear in mind But the point is that you can choose which specific cameras you want to to record as isolated video So here you've got camera a and camera b and what you'll notice is that camera a It's saying that this is this particular capture card Camera b is cam link 4k and that directly links to the sources that we've got in here So in this Switcher here, you can see that that is the live streamer cap 4k capture card Is the one that I've got selected for camera a that is what is being recorded and that happens to be this one that you're looking at right now So you do get this sort of indication of which one you are recording But you also can capture all of the interview guests and as I say they're coming in at 1080p And they'll be recorded at 1080p as well And that is something to be aware about because here you can be just, you know Choose an individual camera out of these two if you select interview guests It is going to record a separate file for all of them So if you then have 10 people on the on the call And you're recording all of those videos just bear in mind the the the you know the hit that you're going to be taking From a processor point of view The other thing to note here is this one apply camera effects to recorded video sources So you can either just record as is so the the camera without any effects If you're going to be doing any sort of pros pro I can say that right post processing of of the the video Then then you'd want this sort of clean feed without without any of those effects applied But then if you are actually just going to do all of these sort of tweaking, you know Making color adjustments and things like that you may be doing that to your guests for example on interview mode You may be sort of moving their position on screen and cropping them If they're you know sort of sitting down like this So you may have sort of resize them whatever on the screen So those camera effects anything that you've got applied in the camera effects window You're basically choosing for camera a so here you can see I've got a slight zoom on this particular camera If I come down there's a couple of other things applied in there as well So you're basically deciding do you want those things to be included as well record isolated audio tracks? That's something that we've had since Whatever version it was that was previously in the audio section that has now moved into the recording section And so yeah, that is now that is now added into into there This one by the way is the record only countdown, which is when you go to record Some people had asked for a countdown timer So that you know when you hit the record button it goes three two one and then starts Personally, I did I didn't like that feature because I just want to hit the record And then I'm looking straight ahead and go I don't want to be looking off to have You know to watch a time or anything and then look back So I just prefer to press the button and go but they've given us the option for that So that's just what that one is just while we're here Record only countdown if you want to have that countdown when you start recording or live streaming As in you know to count you in before even not not a live stream countdown, which I've done away with as well But um, yeah, that's that's just what that is for Um That's yeah, no problem about the thing. It's easy to miss these things There's so many features and you sort of go through and I don't don't necessarily notice all of the things that are in there Hey, Richard. Great to see you here. Thank you for stopping by Um, and that is the other one of course Paul indeed that um, yeah, not only is it a an encoding issue of this isolated video But it is also a storage issue because then you're you know producing multiple different files for for each recording And by the way, if you have got these isolated either isolated audio or isolated video Then instead of just getting a single file out, you'll basically get a folder For each recording that you do that will have all of these these files in and yeah That can quickly add up if you're adding, you know multiples of all of those things. So uh, yeah, great point Paul Um, and it's worth just reiterating this because as I say, I think a lot of people ask for features Um, you know thinking I'll be great if we could x y and z without necessarily thinking about the the overall sort of It or the processing or storage that's involved in all of these those things um So, uh, does the number of different ecamm profiles I have saved Impact any aspect of the quality of the stream I want to create more profiles as the three I use are getting cluttered not at all. It doesn't have um It doesn't have any um any issue there It doesn't impact at all on the quality of the stream. No, I mean if you look at my this particular profile I'll just sort of share that um Let's have a look where has it gone Lost my lost my thing there. So yeah, I mean this is my my my My list of scenes for this for take one tech. So these are different things that I do I've got a load here with videos for uh, like b-roll and stuff like that So when I do things like I did the thing about the rocaster and the Uh release and the stream deck. So I put in a load of b-roll. So I've got all those here So there's lots of scenes just in this one profile and then if I come to my profiles list I've got all of these different profiles for different use cases that I have for for ecamm as well So no the actual number of profiles you've got has uh has sort of no bearing on the actual stream performance I'm hesitating here because um with the actual profiles themselves Having a big load of of scenes in in there like that what you can find is that if you go to export a profile So you can just go to profile Export current profile and if I try and export this one then It does that does sort of work around a little bit trying to think about it because I've got lots of embedded videos and stuff like that In there. So that is one thing is when it comes to exporting it that you know You can can find that you get big file sizes as well because it's got all of that embedded stuff in it If you're exporting it but in terms of just having multiple profiles Not at all. It doesn't have any any bearing on them on the actual stream performance or anything like that Um And question here when I record on first of all, uh, welcome to the stream. Thanks for stuffing by When I record the video iso, I believe it's 1080. That's correct. Yes, it is But if I mark streaming as 4k, uh, does setting the iso in video change the main? No, so the uh, the iso recording is maxed out at 1080. So you're correct there And by the way, this is a is is an m1 feature First of all, uh, but also it is a pro feature as well. So I should just mention that Um, but no, it doesn't affect the stream So the stream is still going to be defined by whatever you set it as in the in the settings. So by that, I mean In here output. Sorry options stream size. So whatever you set in there, um Will still be the main sort of output on the main video that you get as the recording Or the stream will still be like that. It's just the isolated videos that you get in addition to that That do have that that cap of of 1080 So, uh, yeah, that's just to answer that question Um Oh, that is obviously yes. Sorry. I say obviously only one profile is available at any one time So and you can't switch it mid stream as well um, but um Yeah, so if you've if you've got multiple the way that the way that I think about profiles Is that I have a profile for each sort of use case So my take one tech recording on this channel. I have one profile. I have a separate one for amazon Live streaming. I've got separate ones for vertical video and stuff like that So they are for each individual use case rather than Yeah, rather than having, you know, everything all in one. So technically all of these I mean a lot of this I should probably clean it out really but a lot of those Those scenes that I showed you they are all things that I use literally for my videos on this channel So I mean all of these that we're just scrolling through there that was for b-roll scenes For one thing or another so I have that set up so that basically I get I mean this was this is going to be completely out of context But if I just click on this one now for example, whoops, I have to tell you I can't locate file. That's because I haven't even got that file on here anymore. Let me try this one. See if this won't work But yeah, this sort of thing so I could flick to it's almost like a little b-roll cutting This was when I was talking about roadcaster and then it'll do this and then it'll flick back to the the main camera again And there we go. Can't find that file. So I'll just skip that for now But that's the that's the point of all of those Those scenes down there. So if I just collapse those Collapse these ones Yeah, so I've still got quite a lot of scenes that I use just for take one tech So let me just see what's happened there. I'll tell you what it is. I've added in another camera So let me take that one a second And what we'll do is I'll go to where am I now just drop this one out. I've somehow added in I've somehow added in an extra camera that they want to add in There we go. That's better. Come back to that one So so yeah, that was just the the profiles though just to digress further the profiles Think of one as you know for each use case that you've got for for e-cam. That's the way that the way that I think about it So so yeah, ISO is only 1080 per source. Yeah So follow up question then do I and by the way the just kind of related to that is the The feed coming in from from interview mode as well They're only 1080 no matter what somebody's putting in at the other end Your the the feed for interview mode is is coming in at 1080 as well Which has been increased from 720 which is in the the current main version of e-cam Just in case that was anything related to I suppose that's a good time to to mention the creators pod podcast because that's that's the podcast that I do with rich and dina who's in the chat as well and keely michelle rich I'm missing anyone I think I got us all But yeah, we do the creators pod podcast Which is our little mastermind and then we do a podcast where we talk all about The the ad journeys as creators and the things that we're dealing with so you can find a link to that in the Description and also I've just dropped it into the chat as well But yeah, just wondering if that was we record that with e-cam and Just as an aside the way that that works is that rich runs two versions of e-cam on is on two separate computers One of them runs Interview mode that we've got set up with us all coming in But then rich dowels in as well from his other computer And then we're all recording locally most of the time usually it's me who screws things up, but We all record locally at 4k and then we're all going into the interview mode on that secondary computer at riches so that then We've got the the sort of the sort of mix together version But then we've also got the the isolated videos as well I thought I mentioned rob, but he is indeed forgettable So so yeah follow-up question though Oh, I think i've answered that already i'm i'm getting ahead of myself Yes, so so the main recording is still at wherever you set it up But the iso videos are the ones that are coming in separately So those are the the really sort of headline features the the multi streaming of e-cam the The camera switcher and the video iso as well and then those updates to interview mode and by the way interview mode In itself is a pro feature The iso video is a pro feature the camera switcher isn't that is just a regular thing and the Yeah, the multi-streaming I think is is pro 2 But aside from that there have been loads of other little sort of tweaks and adjustments And some adjustments to the preferences and things like that. I mentioned just sort of the way things are laid out There's also been some updates to stream deck as well and a couple of them that I really like So one of them is the ability to create predefined comments In stream deck and the way that that works. I should just show you this The way that that works if I get stream deck open And uh come over to this for you Um, so here you can see I've got my stream deck application open and in fact this one here. It's just this thing this post comment action So if I click here into the e-cam and look down here, you can see post comment And then I can type something in here This is a Pre-written comment And then if I press the the button on my stream deck what you should see is that that then comes through in the In the chat of the live stream So that's great for if you want to be you know, if you've got stuff that you do want to post throughout your stream You can just create buttons for that and in fact, that's what I did for this this e-cam live masterclass that little Thing that I did where I talked about it. That's actually a multi-action and in there I've got two actions one of them is to switch scene So that switches to that little promo scene that I've got And then this also posts a comment with a link to it at the same time So if I just sort of demonstrate that again, I'll just quickly flick to this scene So when I do this And flick to this scene to do my little e-cam live promo what you'll notice is immediately also in the chat There has been a link posted to it as well So having these predefined comments. I think is is a great little little add-in for the the stream deck And what else have they added in? Oh, the other one was chapter markers as well. That is pretty pretty epic as well Because what that allows you to do is Now I've not been doing it with this I probably should have actually but somewhere down here. Where is it gone? This one add marker That allows you if I take off this one and we'll just drop that in there instead That allows you to add a A chapter marker now if you just leave it blank like that basically when you press it What it's doing is when you press it once it creates a text file And this is going to have the time stamp. So we've been running now for 52 minutes 56 So it would have a 52 56 and then just you know, no text But if you add in text here, it will add that in now when you're adding chapter markers into youtube All you basically do is you just have them written out with the time And then the chapter marker that you want to to occur there to appear there And so what this means is You can either go through and have a marker for you know If I say some Pill of wisdom that I want to come back to later to create a short out of Although I hate repurposing and I tend to just find it easy to just rerecord it But you could just have a button for you know, this is something significant that I want to come back to And just press the button and then at the end of the recording as well as all the individual recordings the ita recordings and all that They'll also be a text file there as well Which will have a list of all of these time stamps So then you can go back and you know, see what it was that you were talking about The other way that I have used this before is Those things that I showed you in my list of scenes where I'd got all that b-roll for different aspects of the roadcaster for example Or the the stream deck plus I did this for as well What I did was I had a kind of run-of-show which was you know, press this button The other way I use this as well is for I forgot specific titles that I want to bring on screen at a particular point Then having a multi action which basically, you know, takes you to the next scene takes you to or the relevant scene You know brings up a particular title or something and also adds in the chapter marker And if you've got a run and a run of show like that Then you could literally just have a button that you press for each one when you're moving on to the next segment Brings up that title switches to that scene brings in that b-roll whatever it happens to be and as you're going through just Naturally with your run-of-show Then at the end it's going to spit out a chapter list that you can just then upload to youtube. So Um, I mean, I should have done that for this really shouldn't there you go It's so great, but I'm not actually using it today But I do use it when I do these sort of pre-defined things rather than Um, it can it can sort of screw you up when you start going off script And I tend to do that a lot in these these more casual live streams So that was something that was added in the other thing that was added in was Volume levels for the stream deck plus I've still yet to do my full stream deck plus review. Uh, I do love it It is a great companion to the regular stream deck and by the regular I mean the excel So, uh, if I come back to this I'll come to my This top-down shot Hopefully there we go. That's a little bit zoomed in, isn't it? That's a bit useless. Let me, uh, try and fix that I can't fix that in here if I click on that camera And then I'll just zoom it out a bit better I was obviously demoing the rocaster the last time because I've still got the rocaster masterclass Little thing up there, but you can find out about that if you want to learn more about the rocaster Then do by all means head over to rocaster masterclass.com and uh, that is similar to the ecum masterclass in that Uh, yeah, I do update that with with all of the the updates that come to the rocaster firmware But what I wanted to show you was this On the stream deck plus, uh, we now have the these these knobs here and we had this before on the, um On the loop deck The door stop, um over here Um, but the um, yeah, this now has the volume controls for, um, you know things in ecum So as I rotate the dials in here And it is going to change the volume in ecum. Maybe I can just show you what that actually looks like I'll just come into demo mode for a second. Uh, so I've probably got a few too many things on the screen here Let me get that out of the way So here is the volume levels in ecum and then you can probably see in the top corner That I've also got the the levels down here. So if I turn the effects You can see how it's it's actually turning the effects level up and down So as I twiddle this dial here, it is turning the the effects in the the in ecum itself Uh, and then you've also got um, uh guests as well So it's I've just noticed that Is not normally that slow to respond then wondering what's causing that but That's actually a little bit slow to respond today Hmm interesting That's been flawless up until now. So I don't know quite what's going on there But the other thing though It's got is guests and this is where really it is very valuable is when you've got Interview guests coming in and you want to be able to tweak their individual volumes and at the moment Um, I've just got one dial and it says guest one But one of the things that you can do with a stream deck with a stream deck plus I should say Um if I switch over to stream deck plus Is for these um these dials you've got what are called um a Or what is it called now? It's called a stack a dial stack. That's it Um, so what you can do is you can basically create a dial stack Which is a bit like the the interface is a bit like multi actions on a um Um, uh on a on a you know regular stream deck button So I've added added a dial stack onto here and then in these four actions You can see that I've basically just added the ecum live input level And I've got four of them and those are for interview guests one Uh, and then you can basically select any of the ecum things. So primary secondary mic movie system audio skype interview Sound effects and so interview is the sort of global interview settings But then you've also got guests one to ten Down here as well So what that means is that at the moment this dial is for guest one But if I just press it it's going to cycle through to guest two Guest three guest four and so on so pressing the button then cycles through them So I thought found it logical to say right well, I've got one dial Which is for my regular ecum effects for volume and things like that And then the other one is for for interview guests So so yeah, that is a nice little introduction a nice little addition. I should say with stream deck And uh, yeah the the chapter markers there's a couple of great things But yeah, those chapter markers totally agree with keely are are really cool and uh, dog is busy Doing amazon testing. Um, so that is specifically I mentioned it right at the beginning You know ecum Ken and Glenn said, oh, no new major features coming, you know in their q&a in december But then literally yesterday dropped this, you know amazon comments and that is massive to people who do anything on amazon because Yeah, very few there's only be live. I think as I said earlier that do allow commenting or take in the comments And that was, you know, one of their big sort of um, you know Whatever the word is Highlight features was to be able to bring those in so I'm so pleased that ecum now brings them in um, and yeah, if you're doing any streaming on on Amazon there was a way to do it before using what was it uh video ninja or ninja something I can't remember the full the thing of it stream Whatever it's called the one that allowed you to sort of pull them in but it was really Clugy and every or real sort of pain in the neck to actually do so. It's um, it's great that that we've now got those in And uh, it's it is indeed friday the 13th Well, actually fortunately i'm i'm safe because it is saturday the 14th for me. So hey eileen great to see you here Someone else who i'm sure will be happy about the new amazon commenting feature over in in ecum and that is i mean as I say Let me just bring up just once again to just reiterate how many things have been added in here because It is it is just it just blew my mind when I went through and looked at this whole list Um, it is just quite a quite a mammoth list of of updates And uh, this is what spurred me to make this video is just scrolling through all of these things To see how many things have been added in so I obviously Cannot go all the way through each and every one of these these things that we've got in the beta Who knows what else might squeeze its weight in there before the major release and as I say it's not being formally announced yet when it is So, uh, who knows but it is it's going to be packed and We get these incremental updates as beta users And we sort of lose sight of you know, what a massive leap forward This is going to be for the majority of people who aren't on the beta program And they're just going to update from three dot eight whatever it is two to four It's going to be a another Another game changer. So right so yeah That is about it and doc is going to be if you've got a link to that doc Can you drop a link to your your amazon live stream in the in the chat and then we can all head over there and Uncheck out the chat feature. Oh, and hello just in time. Hello Ecamp is that that's either that's either doc katie or someone else. Maybe doc's got two two keyboards going But yeah drop your drop your amazon link in or I can find it in fact is it dot rocks or I'm sure you'll get it But we're all going to head over to check out doc on amazon amazon anyway Um I can't find his link If you want to find me on amazon, it's take one tech dot Live is the my amazon live and if you want to find my amazon shop, it's take one tech dot shop simple And oh, it's doc. So doc is just setting up now Um, what's your what's your general amazon thing then doc? Let's let's find that because you can just get the the regular um link to Dot rock We'll find out Uh, I'll just do this so amazon usually dot shop slash Dot rock I just typed doc with ck there There we go. It'll be in here It'll be in here There we go. So all click on that link and if you haven't already then go and follow as well We need the need the follows. Uh, so head over to uh to there and we'll we'll head over there and check out shortly as well, but that is it for the ecamp ecamp Wish list that we've basically got all that we wish for or all that I wish for Can't wait to see what's coming in in four dot one But that's all for now. If you have been Watching thank you very much and if you've been in the chat, thanks for being here so much And if you're watching on the replay Then you can find some More great videos all about ecamp right over here and I just want to say a big thank you to all of my Channel members as well. I really appreciate your support Much appreciated. 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