 I can't like check check shit. It's usually cause this your boy E ceo I'm here with the lovely amazing official mr. Mako. What's going on? Man, hey man, we got my guy here today y'all ain't gonna play with y'all man. This guy. Hey man He family this the second time being on boss talk on or one he and Dallas with me Yeah, man be put big puppets in the building. Yes, sir. Yes, sir, man big pop. Come on man Come on man. You hear a man. I'm here man. Thank you. It's been a long time man I supposed to be here first You know y'all bless me with child presents man A lot has changed since we last interviewed you I want to tell you congratulations on your engagement Piece of steak that we want to keep pedaling in front of the society's face. They ain't gonna get it You just can't sit in it Because all of a social media he he he does he's showing that love between him and his fiancee So he got it out there. He's not ashamed Thank you, thank you. I love the way how you put it out there. Wow Definitely, I mean, I'm not scared. I'm not, you know a shame to anything. Yeah, people don't know. I'm married You don't know they don't know Come on Thing you have people in the coming be like is that his wife? I'm like, how can you not know? We say the time on the show like they gotta write the dream Leave it alone. You know y'all that day, you know, you got all these muscles on here like this You know, they feel real good about it. You know, I'm working out again Oh They don't know they can't see the story I'm just I'm living man. I'm blessed right now, man I I can't in Houston a couple of times on an interview, you know, I've been down there cause I told y'all was coming I ain't been able to get back over that evening got me busy. I mean, that's good. You've been seeing me working But we always talking about you though every time I come to Houston like y'all don't know big pop Everybody that I'll be like, yeah, that's my guy, you know In our mind we like everybody should know you but every night And that's the thing because I like to be I like to be like that, you know, I'm saying, you know When people it's too popular. I know important people, you know, I'm saying so the people you might have I might have Know the people that's important to them That's exactly what it is. And you know, that's kind of why I like to keep it I don't want to be the popular person. I just want to be the person this no, I agree with that I don't want I don't want everybody to be running up on y'all the time or you got to always feel me and my lady can Come out and then gotta worry about that me and you we get out new looking ain't that boss talk all that nigga Don't want that all the time either But it's hard to get away from it though when you getting behind the cameras every day, right? Well, you being seen Yeah, but that for me, you know, that's why I didn't want to be such an artist. Yeah Exactly, you know, I could be away from the cameras away from the mic away from You know all the people all the time, but you're on a label though, man You own a whole label like like how is it being in Houston cuz you got you you got I think about 1501 I think about uh you 1501 rap a lot. Who else am I forget a lot? We got a lot of music We got a Who's you said it's seen no one we got you BK at the okay, you know, I'm saying so it's quite a few labels That's that's moving when that's so crazy because then I'm there's a artist had DM me cuz I guess he wanted to come to Dallas and be like What are the labels that y'all having Dallas and I had to remember that and I had to research I'm like cuz you know, Houston have so many labels out there I have to really research to see what labels are out here in Dallas. I know there's studios But I'm talking about labels and I'm like I noticed I'm say she's just did a label And I'm like okay, and I'm okay, but I don't know about any odd Do you know about any labels? No, I've been coming to Dallas for a long time probably since 01 and the whole time I've been out here I've never known labels. It's just artists That's making moves, right? It's a lot of artists. How why but how hard is it to just do a label? Why is that so well, I think well With most artists there seeing that it's better to be independent So they go on the solo route now But me as an as a former artist I found that it was also better to be an independent label. Mm-hmm If you know how to do it, you know, I mean so It's having an independent platform for independent artists. Mm-hmm. It just made it better that way You still operate as a label not so much as a major But you operate as a label and all the money still stays in house I like how you said you said you said an in a label for independent artists, right? So it's not that they they still signed to you. Yeah But they're still independent. It's we still as a label we're independent and I give them the freedom to do things like it's not Okay, you can't do this this than the theory because you're under me man. Go get your money. You know, I'm saying Go get your money. You know, I'm not I'm not trying to hold nothing But whatever I put in I want to get back. Okay, just send it away. Yeah And then I make sense and that's fair. Right. Right. And well, that's what labels don't do though You know, I'm saying see I love my orders to eat while I recoup Most labels you gonna wait today recoup and then you start the So it's I just do it cuz I'm I'm I'm always artists first So I want to do it a fair away. I'm more way. That's more fair What came to my mind because out of curiosity When you have a business and your business is thriving you think about doing multiple locations Is that the same thing that you can do with a label? Because then like you have your label over there in Houston, maybe you wanted to open another one Maybe even on the same name whatever and have it in Dallas that you know If anybody wanted to do something in Dallas, you are also here, so you sort of not say corner the market, but you you You know, how does that work? I would say I would say if I was to do something that way It wouldn't be to open it because the label would be universal Anyway, that's right. So I would say just more open a headquarters here in Dallas So I have one in Houston. I have one in Dallas. I'm here one in Austin You know that way artists that's here, right, you know I'm saying can work if we have artists that's in Dallas You know I'm saying I sign the artist in Dallas or do exclusive deals with artists That's maybe out here that want to do that because most artists out here Don't want to they don't want to be with a label or they want to be with a big label Well stay in the pink will that be something that you don't want to do not specifically in Dallas But you know are the places that you see where the need is. I'm always willing to expand But you and Houston Dallas is right up the street. I don't see no I don't think that would be a wise decision. You will to do that. No, you know I'm saying but that's why I said not it's particular in Dallas, but somewhere that you see the need LA That's what I'm talking But you are you special because at the end of the day, you know, you guys have made a move down there You guys are one of those one of those teams that people are looking at You know what I mean when they come to when they come to I want to make it in music that you you wanted those guys Man, how do you keep those guys? You know developing in the right direction? dealing with different artists people who are from green to people who come in with bad habits How do you deal with that? And it's it's it's management, you know, I'm saying like you have to know people and I do have a Psychology I did study that in school. Okay, it helps me with that Okay, because to know how people thinking why they're thinking it they can help you when you know I'm saying dealing with those I mean so young too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How do you balance? Work with personal life balance it That's the key. It's the balance it like it's it's gotta be a balance. How do you do that? This is gotta be it's gotta be a balance. So so how is more so I keep my personal life out of my business life and the reason I do that is because when What happens is a lot of people start watching what you do personally and start to feel like Okay, maybe I should be doing that or maybe in these we're talking about artists and people that's not artists You know, I'm saying like you got to make sure people know their role You know, I'm saying if you have if you're an artist and this is what you do or your staff member and this is what you do I make sure that they are compensated in their area, but Don't watch my area. You know, I'm saying because my area is I don't just do music I do everything else. So a lot of people get to watch and what you have It's like, okay. Well, let's start watching pockets, you know, I'm saying and that's the worst thing you probably watch Yeah, you don't want that But you the boss how they can what they can't watch your pocket, right? We can say that but they can come up with some scenario in there. Yeah, it's always a scenario So but you also said that you keep your personal life personal in your business life Business, but how do you do that when you have a fiance that's in the business? Well, see that? That is my business And that's that's personal, but the thing is is that you know with with with that It's like this is this is a family business You know I'm saying we can we can do that, but it's more so of just friends knowing what I do personally Now we got to keep this okay. How's Dougie D doing down there, man? Man, Dougie good at my nigga now, man I listen to that freestyle about 30 times. I think I'm so used to when I put that out She'd be like crazy Oh, that he gave me a free style of that Oh, Dougie Wow He work out a lot. Yeah. Yeah, he's not gonna stop. He's not gonna stop man Dougie Dougie's One thing about Dougie and I love my brother to death He's loyal as they come. Yeah, I could see that. No, I'm saying he's I think I've seen it with Trey Trey hanging out of Trey, you know, you know, they from the group. Yeah. Yeah, it was him zero and try to start Yeah, you know I'm saying but uh He rock with Trey tough a lot. You gotta help me get zero in this show one day man. Yeah, he'll be People that just told me like No, there's a lot of people been asking for him on the show Yeah, because we'll be on live and you know, we always ask people like, um, who do you want to see on our show? Name You in Texas that's gonna happen, you know every single time they love it and that is love Yeah, so you hear that zero you are in big demand by our viewers. They want you on a couple of people that can get him I just say him pursued it like I know I can Yeah, but I mean, you know, I we I can reach. Yeah, you know, I'm saying To him to really that's why I reach because I'm type of dude like if like power off I was the southern day like certain people just tapping in as we go. We keep working. I live my work Thank you, man. I let my work do the talking. That's that's what I look at. But you know what too Okay This is me hypothetically speaking because I love to put myself in other people's, you know position And when I think about if I was in their position Us being new As in we've been doing this a year and a little bit. Yeah, but I want to see play Yeah, we have been passing a lot of a lot of people up But I want to see consistent because so many people get in this game and then fall out Or fall off And I don't want to put my my my brand or my name on somebody's show who's not going to be here Who's going to fall off? You know what? I mean, so I want to see consistency I want to see you keep grinding. I want to see you before I had to say, okay, I'm going Please I done did Twice Vegas twice. I put that money up stop playing the thing is is I get that you right right and in cases people want to see they don't want to waste their time You know, yeah, and but You have to look at The consistency that talk about it. Talk about it. We have to look at Who y'all already in the talk about I know that because when I see them because what hurt me and this is just again me speaking Is what I remember that. Yeah, just me um When I see some people go on some other podcasts who I know that visuals is not as good as ours that's who um Audio is not as great as ours and I'm like, okay. You're going theirs, but you ain't come on ours yet Nigga that caught they out of touch with reality. We should have taken this whole over Like we know that's gonna be it's hard to beat the visual. We got to work Keep keep going. We don't keep going because they don't come to you They don't come to you you ain't gonna have to reach to them They don't come to you because we have got in our corner. So we ain't worried about we have big pop too Thank you so much for always rocking with us, man Man, listen, man When you hit me up, you don't know if I don't say now. I'm busy, but nigga I'll be like man. That's my guy like you give me inspiration. Yeah, I know your heart, man Thank you, man. So it ain't never what your action is with me. Yeah, your actions are always silent Yeah, you know, I mean, so but I know your heart man. You're good people Man, I'm trying I'm trying every time every day I wake up This is the thing. I know I know What we've been through. Yeah, you know what we come from. Yeah, and know where we're going I already said how much we've sacrificed and changed to be where we are man. Come on there So, yeah, man, it ain't no ever ever gonna be no problem Thank you So, um Since it's been a year since you've been on here. Have you added any additional people to your label to the label? Other than other than Now I haven't added anybody else Um, but we've we I've added New ventures. So now I'm I'm going into producing movies So don't these films is is my next endeavor though So when you have a label you can branch off that label into any so you do music movies You can do movies under your label. I can do well. Yeah, the good part. How does that work? The good part about it is well not necessarily under the label because it's a whole entity That's what I was wondering, but it's it's it's our partner. It's our partner But the thing is is that With me doing movies I can use my own music in these movies. That's dope. You know, so all the sync licensing and everything I make sure my artists eat through movies. I make so, you know, everybody can eat through movies Even putting me in this acting I can make so she eat through movies. You know, I'm saying and she she know everybody So that's smart. It's it's about just pulling all the resources. That's a new venture now I see a lot of artists and a lot of people going to is the film industry right now A lot of people are writing their own film. That's why I asked her about, you know, doing her own You know writing about her own movie and stuff like that Because it only makes sense. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, I put a team together of of directors And you know, I'm just I'm just going in and buying equipment Like the real cinematography equipment and you know stuff like that. So We're putting we got writers. We got directors. We got We got everything we need really, you know, so as we start now we're putting the movies together. Have you Hired somebody for acting lessons acting lessons. No, no, but I know a lot of actors So because that's what a lot of people do when they're trying producers when they're getting people to do autobiographies or Um There's any acting they send them to acting school Right. So instead of sending them to acting school if you get like acting lessons Somebody to just teach them, you know, some things I mean, they can cut the middle man. I'll just kind of Let me let me tell you how I feel. Okay. Yeah, I'm breaking back in this thing bruh When country Wayne Mike Anthony came over here and told me they make 400 000 dollars a month on skit snigger I just think hollywood is different now I think there's a way to make this thing pop and quit waiting on the different ways that they used to do it With the technology that we have at our fingertips today You can create a movement without even anybody's even a thought of way You got to make the people believe in you more than what more than just the industry It need to be the people because it's more of a direct to consumer Environment that we're living in am I right, right? And I'm more of a DIY guy myself There it is and so when I come to put putting all this together I'm not I'm not leaning on anybody else. Yeah to make this jump You know I'm saying because I've always put my own into it to make my own movement Exactly. I'm saying so when it comes to the movies Yeah, we're gonna Do skits everything we need everything when it comes to promoting the product. I'm doing something today Yeah, I've been working for I'm working. I got a whole another channel that fit up and they hold hard And I'm it's gonna be like a like a production types deal Boss talk one on one prime time that you niggas in on it and And it's you can look it up. It's already with something you can go look up It's 38,000 subscribe. It's ready. It's bubbling. It's ready to go I'm just waiting to launch it to build up enough content. I got the people working already We've been working for months and when they come it's coming like a whole network. It's not going to be playing So I and it's and it's it's underground But when them niggas told me what these kids doing niggas forget this money man, it's easy Not to mention too though, like we have direct access to You know the streaming Platforms the Netflix is the 2b. Oh, you already got the we already in there because I'm partnering with a distribution company Southwest digital side after them that already has that ties in Oh man, man. Thank you man. So Man, there's a lot going on houston. I'm not forgetting to the politics of houston. We had little kiki on here We had a ESG on here. Who else we don't have a bunch of them. We had a southwood winning on here We don't have a bunch. Have you ever done work with esg? I did at esg's own Um, I have my dropped in 2014. Okay, my life here on entertainment. Yeah, though Yeah, I got a track with you for so you're a cool dude. Yeah Yeah, I love the way the music man. I love the way it comes from houston. Y'all got a sound over there, man That's I mean we had dj shows on here. You know, we had some we had some dope. Hey, my boy, man Don't stop playing me. Can't say all that without saying black card steve. Oh, that's my guy So like everybody that come through always been showing us love. I get a lot of love from h-town, man Real talk and that and that's good. That's but it's deserved though. Thanks. Yeah Okay, not So you coming back, yeah anytime I can pull up Yeah, I see I see the podcast or something down there in y'all place after I left. What was that? I got jealous. Hey, I said, what the hell's going on down there? Hold up. Hold up in the same spot that we did Different backdrop and everything but I know it was yours. Yeah. No, it's it's one of my artists It was both of my artists. That's that's in deep black. They need to keep We got two episodes. They gotta keep that going. We we we really revamping the whole content Okay, you know what they do they like battle rapping and boxing Oh, so they that's dope. So that's what they because it's called. Here's the thing Okay, that's the name of the podcast. Here's the thing because Excuse me. D black. Oh when he talks That's the first thing he say especially when he's debating you go. Here's the thing. Oh, that's dope You know, so we named it after that And why you didn't set them up here to be on my show so I could help promote it Or if there's anything or if there's any advice or whatever that they need anything. I'm here. We are here. I know that That's why I love it. You know what I'm saying? But I'll definitely I'll definitely you know What you say is happening in real time, nigga. Like Like you said eat what you do. I'm like, yeah, I got you. I'm here in in town The law is say the same. It's going down like that, man. I love the look I was looking I'm like what the hell going on. They got something going. I ain't getting no call, nigga I gotta get I gotta get you down or I can I can come down. I can send them up. I actually got to come down. I got a couple of things now Yeah, we got some stuff working. Yeah, man come come on. Let me I just got a new house. You know what I'm saying Yeah, but I'll kick it in man. I'll tell you off camera where it said I saw the picture you posted the picture on instagram That ain't supposed to worry about that. It looks really good I know but it looks good though. I like the way congrats man. She makes it a home. That's what I love Man, that's dope. Hold on. So when is the big date? It's it's november 11 2023 though next year. Okay. Cool. So you're already doing the Arrangements and everything you pick the dress out yet. She got screen shots of everything everywhere how she wanted to do it She does then like she likes to decorate. Yeah, our invitation is going to be in the mail Hell yeah, we're going to be in the mail and you email Oh We're gonna be there. I'm in law. I say the same man Say man. Hey, man. Thank you for coming on. Did we get anything because I had to get him in and out of here pretty quick today But he coming he family. So I'm small You know, I'm coming back man anytime you got an artist or something that you want us to Interview or anybody that you got coming to Dallas or if I'm in houston, man pull up, man We're gonna do this man. That's what we're here for. I got you. I appreciate man. Thank you so much man Love you, man. I love you. Yes, sir, man. It's been another great segment of boss talk 101. What a boss is talk real