 Or stay in where security matters, Governor Nassir El-Rafai says Nigeria's national security and defense architecture is weakened. He also condemns billions spent to subsidize petroleum products in the country. El-Rafai said this at an event on the leadership in Lagos. Destiny Momo tells us more. The event was necessitated by the growing issues bedeviling the country, including security and the weak state of the economy. The convener Itwai Godalo spoke passionately about Nigeria's fragile state, saying speakers were drawn from key sectors of the economy, including the Karnas state governor who focused on the spate of insecurity. What are we dealing with? We are not dealing with Bokohara. We are not dealing with any group driven by some ideology. We are dealing with people that have decided to sell cattle and buy AK-47 and kidnap people for ransom. These are criminals. Order speakers raised some pertinent questions which need to be addressed honestly. This is a reaction. Looking forward to what Danjima said, that if we don't defend ourselves, since 2018 he advised everyone, if you don't defend yourselves, you're all going to be killed one by one. I would have believed Tiba Danjima didn't believe Bohar, who is like me. Governor Erufai gave reassuring answers to sensitive issues raised. We have a security problem. We have insurgency. We have banditry. We have all this. Let's address them and don't give any excuse for iPop or anyone like that. If we are all to react to people that are not of our ethnicity living around us, nobody will live in peace. Governor Erufai added that a younger and energetic president will be recommended for the next election. Destiny Momo for Plus TV Africa.