 Guys, there's maybe a lot of stuff that we should be blocking right the CEO of tiktok has just said it himself He does not let his own children use the tiktok app now What does that mean when he said it and also? How come talking about tiktok is just so emotional for people. Well, so too get off his back line He's not even from mainland. He's from singapore Well, you know, I don't really know who sing a more singa mingapore wherever he's from he looks chinese to me Yeah, this is going viral right now and it's especially going viral because andrew soon showed you We'll need to testify in front of the u.s. Congress because andrew they are actually considering a bipartisan bill to ban tiktok completely from the us Yeah, so they're gonna sit him down Pick him apart just like they did mark zuckerberg obviously now This is both democrats and republicans both want to hear him out and be like, yo, what's going on guys? What's up with this app? Do we need to block it? Is it a Is it a threat or whatever now my theory is real quick before we get into the major comments First of all, everybody, please hit that like button check out other episodes of the hot pop silly the serious You guys know we're breaking it down Yeah, my overall theory is that a lot of americans view tiktok as like this proxy war as that like this trojan horse Because it's an app that everybody knows about everybody uses everybody's seen it and then they're like wait It's a threat and then they're like if we can't stop tiktok Then we can't stop anything from china and we might as well bend over for china right now And give up this country if we can't stop something as trivial as tiktok. So that's my theory Yeah, that's a good way of putting it um and that's very really interesting Let us know what you think in the comment section below of course keep it civil andrew interestingly enough The full length interview the show chew did on new york times andrew they had to kill the comment section Because it was getting so crazy in there. So you have two kids I do Do they use tiktok? No, they're too young for that So, uh, what ages are they? Eight and six okay tiktok is Here in the us if you're below the ages of if you're below 13 You get a very restricted version of tiktok real quick Do you want to clear up what show chew said when asked do does he let his kids use the app? He said well my kids are eight and six So that is below the age of when they can even sign up for an account You have to be 13 to sign up for tiktok in america My recommendation is they should even hire that age limit anyways, but of course his kids are below the age So why would he let his kids use the tiktok app? Anyway, of course, we're gonna get in the internet You know reactions our own takeaways. Let's get into it somebody said man A good crack dealer doesn't smoke their own crack man. I'm telling you all these CEOs They know these things are bad and they don't let their kids use them the ceo of pepsi His kids don't drink soda the ceo of uh, uh, mcdonald's they don't eat fast food They're living the fancy fancy lifestyle and they're selling all these things to the proletariat Commoner folks keeping us down to press dumb and unhealthy. Yeah, and uh, I mean there's some truth to this But you have to understand ceo's. I mean they're hired business people to keep the company running and to make it profitable You know their goal is not to come in and make these products Not what they are like literally why would anybody hire ceo for their company if the come if the ceo's just gonna come and be like Well, that has a little bit too much sugar. That's a little too unhealthy Just switch the problem. It is interesting that the examples that everybody gave pepsi fast food Obviously tiktok all dopamine centric Hey, man, those are good man. You just gotta limit your intake somebody said how come when you're on tiktok If it's owned by the chinese you never see any chinese people on there. Does anybody else think that's kind of fishy? Uh, yeah, man, this is actually a pretty funny comment But there is actually a lot of chinese people because a lot of videos are reposted from douyin Which is the chinese tiktok of course the original especially the food ones Yeah food videos from china are a one trust me man If you just start looking at like a few chinese videos They're gonna give you more chinese videos because that's what the algorithm supposed to do That's how the algo works by the way make sure you like this video to boost it in the algo Somebody said china is bad man. We're talking about spyware. This is literal spyware Man is digital fentanyl. They're about to build deep fakes of us once they get the stem sales going You're gonna go over to china and find a clone of yourself. Just like elon has ye long ma. It's too crazy Is it crazy that people want to ban tiktok, but then people are like Yeah drugs, whatever everybody just got drugs Oh some fentanyl's in there. Yeah, well, you know, just watch out for the fentanyl Oh, this is this drug that drug i'm like Guys, there's maybe a lot of stuff that we should be blocking right now. Somebody said man We just got to unplug from it all. It's all bad every social media I don't want to single out tiktok just because it's owned by somebody who looks a lot, you know facially different from me Um, it's all bad. We got to unplug from it all somebody said it's too late, man It's just got us claws entrenched in us We can't let go and we're addicted We were the ones that were supposed to be used in technology not the other way around Um, somebody said why is everybody fake pretending like they care? Listen, you want cheap things subsidized prices customizes experience Easy dopamine the truth is we knowingly make these trade-offs every day even as we complain We still continue to make these trade-offs every day. So why doesn't everybody just shut up and quit fake caring? This comment right here, man. That was saying a lot. So that's a tough pill to swallow for a lot of people Oh, man To be honest listen listen, we we want all these cool things from china We want the the cheap security cameras. We want the cheap gadgets. We want the dji drones It's all from china somebody said uh, if you're worried about an app Don't be our own government is spying on us and they've been bought out by foreign regimes And even if they're not bought out by foreign regimes the companies are bought out by foreign regimes So listen your data could just get mined by an american company and then just sell it to the highest bidder So who cares where they get it from? I think a lot of the problem to be honest I'm not trying to sound like an anti-capitalist because I like making money too. But Man, I think the greedy americans up top whoever they are wherever they're at They're kind of selling america out right now. Yeah Just just somebody saying uh, it's more about the tiktok challenges. Those are the ones that are really damaged It ain't really about the data or whatever that's it. It's the challenges Nah, man. I I grew up in america. I know american kids enough We all like some stupid stuff out here. You talk about jackass tom greed Andy Kaufman even I was imitating some stupid challenges back in the day when I was a kid. I can only imagine now Um, somebody said it's more about the woke ideologies They're teaching my kid to hate capitalism and break socialism or maybe they just want every kid to get a bbl Now boys are getting bbls girls are getting bbls. What's up with this whole bbl generation? Don't call them generation z call them generation bbl Wait, so the same people who are saying it's up to these evil greedy capitalists They're also saying that tiktok is spreading anti capitalist views So it's also bad and then china's bad because china's not a fully capitalist country I'm just confused guys to your previous point somebody said capitalism has no moral base as your parent It's your responsibility to monitor what they consume. Nobody's is everybody forgetting that his kids are eight and six He never said anything. Uh, you know, he basically said if your kids are too young you should just be a good parent Um, somebody said well, you know the chinese the reason their app doesn't have all these crazy videos Is because their society is not as degenerate or silly like us in the west have become over time amen If you're gonna blame america's ills on you think tiktok is making people dumber here guys If anything tiktok sort of revealed people's I guess attitudes or you know good and bad I think you see some good stuff on tiktok and you see some you see a range But yeah, I think the overwhelming point is andre and this is why to your original point everybody's so emotional about banding tiktok Is most people feel like tiktok is a negative force Yeah, but it's but I think they see it and maybe it's used as kind of the symbol or the symptom Of this disease that people think that america's already has and they're just like man It just goes to show you why america's so messed up. We can't stop an app We can't stop our kids from watching and we can't stop these people from creating this type of content I can't stop kids from consuming it And the last comment was people just hate it because the chinese on it It's no different than any other silly app out there showing people silly things literally no difference It's just who owns the app So how much that matters is completely up to you. I could see valid arguments on both sides Man, I guess david overall to sum it up man. Well What do you think what's like a reasonable way to think about it? And I know people are gonna be like looking at our faces and be like, well, you guys are biased Clearly, uh, listen if tiktok is proven to be doing the bad things whether you know Obviously, everybody has a different range of what they consider like unacceptable Tolerated 50 50. It's unacceptable if it's really in the unacceptable zone for the majority of people ban it Right just provide the evidence. It's almost like accusing somebody of something very heinous That's a big accusation, but if you can prove it then they should get punished Yeah, if they do the crime, they should do the time a hundred percent now if they do these Uh congress hearings this if he testifies and shows you and and it reveals itself that you know china The government has like access to the data whenever they want. That's a big deal and they should ban tiktok, right? Yeah, so we're not saying that tiktok is fully innocent. I'm just saying I need to see it be proven Right. Um, I think just also like there is some freedom of speech considerations Just like with guns, right? Like it all comes down to the second amendment and all these crazy things in the history Was it that time versus this era this these complicated Arguments get hyper layered and hyper complicated if you really want to get into like the nuts and bolts of it, right? Listen guys, do guns kill people or do people kill people do does tiktok make kids stupider? Do uh, people make Their own kids stupider. Well, the truth is if it's it's tiktok Hey me man. I'm a good parent. Um, I think you just got to take responsibility for your own family, right? A lot of these macro things mid things whether it's local politics National politics like a national tiktok band these things are pretty much out of your control unless you're a super high level politician, right? Like as an average citizen, you got to take care of your micro which is you your family the circles that are around you And um overall guys, you know, I think there's a lot of valid arguments on all sides But like I said those are big accusations, but if they find big evidence then so be it you do the crime you do the time Hey, why doesn't someone start an educational version of tiktok and see how well that does? I would push for it. I hope it does well, but something tells me that it won't get as many downloads It wouldn't be dope. I mean it would be Melatonin because I put me to sleep because it's boring Anyway, let us know what you think in the comment section below guys. Like I said, I think there's valid arguments on both sides And uh keep it civil Don't get the comment section shut down like on all the yahoo news and you know new york times and other things Until next time we'd hop up boys. We out. Peace