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Thank you for that Correction also joining us editor-in-chief of tech Republic. Mr. Jason Heiner back on the show. Thanks for joining us man Hey, always a pleasure. Love being back on DTS It's you've been doing quite a bit of traveling about as well. How's follow the Geeks going? Yeah, it's going fantastic just released chapter 9 on Leo Laporte this month and One more chapter left. So It's been it's been a lot of fun. Love this project So this is the penultimate free chapter you write you go to follow the Geeks you read it And then you're like soliciting comments from folks. It's awesome. Yes, follow the Geeks book calm That one will be up chapter will be up for a couple more weeks and then chapter 10 comes out the last mystery I can't wait to uncover the last mistake Meanwhile, we got some headlines to get to so let's get to them. Here they are Yahoo updated its mobile app for iOS and Android today the app can now manage email from Outlook hotmail and AOL It can't do Gmail and exchange yet It pulls in avatars and contact details from linked social accounts things like Twitter Facebook and LinkedIn As well as details from previous emails So it looks in the signatures for phone numbers or alternate email addresses adds new gesture controls some pretty nice search functions But the big feature folks are talking about is something called a count key Which lets you ditch your password in favor of confirming your login and your login could be on a desktop But you confirm it through a notification sent to your phone's app We're gonna we're gonna talk a little bit about that and just the idea of getting rid of passwords in general later on But first impressions on a new Yahoo mail app gentlemen Well, you know, it feels to me like we are in a bit of a golden age for Rethinking email, you know mailbox quite a big a big splash Google, you know as as look to you know Give two versions of the Gmail experience with the traditional and inbox It's I'm glad people are trying to think about it because I think what we are getting out of it Is not one complete package, but a lot of really really good hints as to what email should be going forward Yeah, and you have also have everybody's trying to reinvent messaging You know at the same time too and trying to get the things that you don't need email in email You know out of email, you know like with slack and other kind of messaging Even iMessage and the proliferation of those things and what's app So I think it is good that at the same time, you know mail should adapt to Keep up with the things that it's good at and that you still need it for you know that sort of non Contiguous communication that's you know, you don't have to get to right away You know mail is the only email address from my 1996 slate of email addresses Or I don't know if it was 96 exactly but that 90s era that I still have and still use for a few things Not a lot. I have to say when I logged into that app today. It's nicely designed. It's pretty Yeah, and that's been kind of the hallmark of what yahoo's done over the last few years They they've made really really pretty well functioning apps. They've put a priority on it and it's paying dividends But but to Jason's point The one thing that for whatever reason nobody wants to pull out of the email is to do and Yahoo made a big deal about how it's gonna be easier to email yourself to use the new Yahoo app as to do So for whatever reason we want to bring out every other functionality Accept the to-do list that for some reason will forever be stapled to the inbox Yeah, hmm Facebook is investigating widespread reports that battery drain is caused or is being caused by its iOS app The app reportedly continues to run in the background even with background refresh disabled a Facebook spokesperson told TechCrunch The company hopes to have a fix out soon This is interesting because I don't think Facebook knows why it's doing it and I think they're pretty convinced it's doing it But it's not doing it for everyone Like I am my wife uses Facebook constantly and she's using iOS right now and It's not doing anything bad to her battery. So it's a it's a weird set of Circumstances that have to happen for this to start draining on your battery Nobody gets quite cracked what it is a lot of people thought it might have to do with Facebook video running But there are varying results on that as well Well, and and like you said, it's hard to know What is the line between this and urban legend, right? You know whenever things like this kind of pop up all it really takes is three of the top tech blogs to report on it And all of a sudden it's it's fact and living in a bite-size 15 second video playing inside Your desktop or mobile Facebook experience. So I think it certainly seems to be real and and you know I think there's a reason why Facebook is just throwing out soon because like yeah, I don't know If you look at the bloggers that are documenting it. They're fairly reliable people and Facebook responding with we're investigating this we're gonna have a fix soon rather than like We're investigating this and we'll determine if it's an issue. It makes me think they know it's an issue They didn't say you're holding it wrong. So that's good Yeah, and that's the thing is battery drain is such a weird problem and can be caused by so many different things up to an Including version types versions of the OS whether or not they are on Wi-Fi or radio signal So, you know, who knows what it is, but I hope they get a fix in multiple apps, too Right, it could have to do with the fact like maybe you've updated the Facebook app But not the messaging app and those app talk to each other and so like Justin said I think that you know all of a sudden that brings in a lot of other factors potentially good point Niantic maker of the game ingress and developer of Pokemon Go Announced a $20 million series a round of funding from its former owner Google But more intriguingly from Nintendo and Pokemon company group president CEO of Pokemon company Tsunakazu Ishihara said Pokemon strategic investment in Niantic paves the way for a social mobile experience The world has never seen before. I am not a Participate in ingress are either of you I mean Justin you're you have experience with handing people Smartphones and having them run around in real life and do things, you know I've always felt that I am the greatest ingress free agent To ever walk the earth because I fly so much. I am I am all over the country I feel like I could be a dominant ingress player, but no, I haven't I haven't nor have I played Pokemon Go Jason I'm assuming no ingress Participation for you either well this this apparently gonna be a big a big thing in the fact that Nintendo and Pokemon Which were involved before in the development of Pokemon Go are Willing to pour even more money into it to make it happen Makes me think that if you're a Pokemon fan, and if you're that that Venn diagram cross of Pokemon fan and ingress fan, you're gonna be over the moon when this thing comes out. I Mean, yes ingress is a well-built game that has a big following However, you know, you got to wonder whether or not this isn't just going to be another way that they can put You know a Pokemon branding on something if it is indeed a Pokemon game and not something wholly original YouTube has added a $3.99 a month subscription option to its YouTube gaming service The so-called sponsorships give users in more than 40 countries perks like exclusive chat sessions and a chat badge It does not however take away ads right now It's limited to beta testers and as far as the revenue split Google told ours Technica quote the majority of the Sponsorship split is given to the creator YouTube gaming also added the ability to stream games live from its Android app The view from the front-facing camera is overlaid on the game footage I I stopped listening to that sponsorships thing as soon as you said it didn't take away ads because I mean I guess it's like patreon in that respect you could you could help Support somebody you really like and twitch has had a good track record of that sort of thing But I'm much more interested in this idea that on my Android device now I can just stream and I and it just uses the camera. I'm not sure that you have the right Device hooks to be able to do this sort of thing in iOS. Maybe you do I just don't know enough about it, but it it seems like a pretty fantastic way to to stream some Hearthstone Pick it up on your Android tablet and just have the camera looking at you automatically doing an x-split thing Believe the twitch app might do this on Android as well So here's the big thing Twitch was just in TV. It was essentially the exact same physical product All that happened between just in TV and twidge was that they built a community It was something that people wanted to gather around and by giving it the video game hook They're you know, the twitch has been very very smart in terms of giving you know The people that support them the most their own emotes their own chat specific Different pictures and stuff like that. They've been very very very good with this What YouTube needs to fix is just getting a better chat YouTube gaming's chat is the same as hangouts. It's the same as you mean a Google live It's using the comment procedure. It's slow. It's clunky and it doesn't really Represent a good cohesive community in my opinion Until they switch that until they can really get serious about their chat situation I don't know how much this incentivizes somebody even if it is a more generous split on that money To the creators to have a creator not go to where there is a bustling booming community that is always looking for a new talent I Don't know if I agree with you on that I and and I'd be interesting to hear if there's anybody who does a lot of twitch streaming in the audience If you agree with Justin or not because I think Justin you're probably closer to this than I am And so you probably have a better read on it But I definitely have heard interviews with certain twitch streamers Maybe unrepresentative because I haven't heard that many who sort of said I don't really you know It's nice that the chat is there But it's not it's not something that I prioritize I do pay attention on my community but chat can be a cesspool, right? So I don't know but it's not necessarily between the creator and the chatters It's between the chatters and themselves very often Mm-hmm. Okay, the community is there and and if it is representative and it's easier to follow and it's easier to Scroll back and it's easier to keep the thread of a conversation and to talk to somebody Even when it's a massive chat room where everybody's yelling and screaming and using racial slurs It if you can follow it you will feel closer with the people you're talking to meanwhile YouTube which employs my wife Is saying shut up Justin. It's not about chat today We launched revenue sharing and everybody says you're not paying creators enough Well, we just tried to pay a creator. So why did you change the topic to chat? Because they are so far behind and and like yes, you are building brick by brick What you need to do to be a viable twitch competitor and I believe in Google I believe in YouTube I believe that they can get there and I think that it is good for twitch to have a very very active Competitor and especially one that's willing to cut more money in to their creators. However It's hard for me to get excited when they are just basically putting together the basic functionality set that twitch already has Go well and and but that's the way it goes, right? You have to put in piece by piece over time and every individual piece may not be the thing that gets you excited Sure. Yeah, I mean good for them also on to the next one Third the chat is terrible, right? I mean the Google's chat is terrible not just in YouTube but as just anywhere across the whole the whole thing and they do Things like this bring up what a weakness, you know, that is and something that they haven't addressed All right, because there wasn't enough confusion with apps from 53 in Facebook called paper dropbox has announced a new document Collaboration tool called paper. It's not a mobile app yet, but they do say they're planning on one Wired describes the text editor as a cross between Google Docs and medium key features in paper include Attribution where each person's work is labeled with a unique cursor and their name to do lists with the ability to assign tasks and Support comments emojis and stickers paper is currently in beta invite only only about a thousand users to keep it pretty strict But you can go take a look at paper dropbox.com if you want to see the sign up page Do we need another way to write an online document? Well, yes, right. We need competitors and we need new ways to collaborate. There are problems with Google Docs There are problems with office live or office 365 And so I would like to see someone take another shot at this for sure Is Dropbox going to do it. I don't know I can't I'm not involved in it. So I haven't tried it some of these features sound pretty intriguing But there was nothing in this wired write-up of it that made me say this Definitely is an improvement over Google Docs. And so I must go and try it Yeah, there's no killer app Dropbox is still in my mind thought to be something that only people I know that really subscribe to it and pay it money are the people who live in it for enterprise purposes and I Don't know if it has that one thing that would make me want to you know Run out and try it even though I love Dropbox. I think that they've been a very very cool company over the past five years But I don't really know where they want to go with this I mean Google did Google Docs because they wanted to eat Microsoft's lunch and And then offer a service that caught used to cost money free and have it be online I don't know what the point of this beyond iterating a service that we all already use But maybe could use some improvement I will give you one feature that they could do better that um that between Google Docs and between Microsoft Office Microsoft Word, you know that that is different terms of collaboration I don't know if it does it but but but I'll throw this out there is when you when you edit Google Docs Like if you if you add to someone's doc, you know or make changes, you know how in in Microsoft you have to go in and accept every single one of those changes or reject, you know so that you know you Can can keep what you originally had in Google Docs It's the opposite all you can do is see those changes But then you actually have to go in yourself if you want to sort of reject one you have to kind of go in Individually, and it's kind of hard to see You know to take the you can't go from looking at the changes to actually going and changing one of those things back Right, so there's somewhere but these are like two almost extreme positions And I think there's an opportunity for somebody to somehow, you know make that so that I can offer I'm gonna change this but I'll offer you the option to to to reject it or or you know keep it if it's like a big thing Or I'll just change it and then you can look in the revision history and see it But there's a big gulf between those two things and I think there's an option to get to Tom's point of there There's still I think some room to innovate in this sort of document collaboration space That's one way that that may be paper. I hate that name too like there's You know way too many too too much up opportunity for confusion But that's a way for them potentially to to innovate for example ours Technica has a review of valves steam os living room ecosystem including a gaming and streaming hardware including their gaming and streaming hardware, sorry the authors liked steam os's smooth operation and UI layout and 1500 game launch library Misses include occasionally hanging on certain screens the issue with the on-screen keyboard and mouse and Performance was a mixed bag with some games not working at all with steam link the controller while customizable was confusing and not as intuitive as the current Console controllers. I read that and I say finally the PC gaming experience in the living room Kind of true actually Square has filed for an IPO Wednesday planning to list on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker symbol SQ Square reported a seventy seven point six million dollar net loss on net revenue of five hundred sixty point five million in the first half of 2015 compared to a loss of seventy nine million on three hundred seventy two million of revenue in the first half of 2014 and they did admit in their filing that yes Dorsey might be distracted because he's also the CEO of Twitter Yeah, that doesn't seem like a lot of great news, right? Like that doesn't seem kind of weird what the revenue stuff or the Dorsey stuff the revenue stuff and the doors Now revenue stuff is is I think expected like this is a company that says yes We're we're going to lose money less and less over time. We're spending a lot of money I think I don't think and I'm trusting financial professionals here I don't think the financial professionals have looked at this and said that's bad news It's more concerned about whether Dorsey can continue to keep the ship pointed in the right direction It just seems like they are cutting a very very very specific path for themselves and their CEO taking on another gigantic challenge may not be the most exciting element of that Netflix disappointed investors with a reported edition of 880,000 us subscribers in q3 short of its own forecast of 1.15 million internationally I'm sorry for 1.15 million domestic internationally Netflix added 2.74 million subscribers compared with its projection of 2.4 Zero million CEO Reed Hastings blame the smaller US number on involuntary churn caused by the issuance of new chip based credit cards and here once again the professional financial analysts are like That sounds like crap to me A lot of people got new cards with chips without their number getting changed most of the time their old number worked for a while and As if they were actually active Netflix users when they tried to launch Netflix and it didn't work because their subscription expired They'd go and update the payment information wouldn't they so I Don't know if I buy that myself. That's a big shortfall. That's not like a couple You know, oh, yeah, that is not a rounding error like we're talking about, you know, 200 over 200,000 Subscribers, you know, we're talking, you know, like a difference of like 20% and what their forecast was So yeah, I'm not totally buying that either and like you said, Tom if they are active subscribers, they're gonna notice right away and and You know get that change so it is it is curious kind of what's What's going on with Netflix that they're definitely doing some programming changes And you know, maybe that's hurting them. They also did a recently did a You know price increase, but that wouldn't have been reflected in in these numbers Anyway, it is curious and certainly something to watch. I believe them when they say it's churn I just don't believe them when they say it's because of new chip cards Yeah I think it might might have more to do with the fact that things that debuted as original content in Q3 might not have rung with the same Passion that stuff that they've debuted in Q1 and Q2 and if you look at what they're releasing in Q4 a lot of Very very very things including their first original Movie piece of no nation. So I think that they are very much hoping that that comes around for them Well, and also they have more competition now more Amazon Prime originals the launch of HBO now So it's it's getting to be a more competitive marketplace This tech Africa reports MTN Irwanda has opened its corridor with Safari common Kenya to allow MTN mobile money And M-Pesa users to send and receive money Seamlessly between the two countries last month MTN Irwanda and MTN Uganda launched cross-border transaction between those two countries So that enables more money to move around regionally Great news You see world reports and video announced that sometime in December GeForce owners will only be able to download game ready drivers by signing up for Nvidia's GeForce experience service Game ready drivers are created for specific games to maximize performance with Nvidia hardware Don't want to give Nvidia your email address You'll only get quarterly releases for bug fixes new features security updates and so on although for anybody who downloaded the GeForce Nvidia driver for the new Batman game which turned out to be a bit of a a bit of a poop show I don't know how exciting of news that is for people Yeah, I mean Nvidia says hey 90% of the people who use game ready drivers are already GeForce experience users To which I say 10% of your users can make a lot of noise about not wanting to have to give you their email address to get a driver so Brace for that brace for impact Nvidia because I think it's coming SP Sheridan noted Corey doctor was boing boing post about a paper presented at the ACM conference on computer and communication security on how the NSA Might be breaking unbreakable encryption. It's pretty simple The paper describes how Diffie helman key exchanges use a few large prime numbers to save on computing and programming resources And the practice is considered secure because it would take a vast amount of money to attack it So apparently what the NSA does is use a vast amount of money to attack it The paper supposes that the NSA spends most of their budget Attacking Diffie helman the NSA has advised people to use Elliptic curves instead of Diffie helman everyone thought that that was trying to trick you into using a less secure method But they might have been playing a double agent The paper states that the researchers can't prove the practice, but that it does fit the facts known from Snowden Leagues That is fascinating. Yeah Yeah Skype has added a feature where you can send anyone a URL and they can join your Skype call Whether they have a Skype account or not on the web on in iOS and Android Users of the Windows Mac or web versions of Skype will find a new plus new button Where they can click to get to get the URL the features available in the US and UK will roll out everywhere over the next couple of weeks Wow, this actually seems like Skype is innovating on their product clutch your pearls America Yeah, I don't know about you Jason, but I can't find anything bad about this unless it's in the implementation Which I haven't tried but seems like a good idea. Yeah, definitely. I mean, you know, you sent me the link to this Hangout because it's easier to do that than to invite people to it, right? So I do the same thing We have internal hangouts. We have people in UK and sometimes I'll send them a you know an invite It'll take like five minutes before it shows up for no parent reason or sometimes won't show up at all So yeah, the link is a good thing Microsoft told Ars Technica that the Windows 10 upgrade was mistakenly checked by default Leading some users to think they were being forced into upgrade to Windows 10 Microsoft says they're removing the check mistake Gotcha Microsoft. Oops. Did we make that a default option? We're so sorry. Oh, man Anyway, look at our numbers on how many people Yeah, because a bunch of people and you could uncheck it you could not reboot But a bunch of people went to their computer sat down and found it saying great reboot to install Windows 10 And if they hadn't really thought about it and rebooted they would have installed Windows 10 So kind of a bad thing to mistakenly check by default, I think And that's a look at all of our stories For today you can submit stories some of these were submitted by you guys at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com Helps us keep an eye on all the news of the day understand what some of you are interested in That Diffie Hellman story obviously came from SB Sheridan. That's a great example So get in there and vote dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and that is a look at the headlines All right, so this Yahoo account key thing is very interesting I can't get it to work my app keeps telling me that notifications are turned off even though they're not I Went in and I turned on all the notifications and it's still work. That might be just a particular user thing But let's assume it works for everybody. Yeah, the idea is I go to my desktop And and just like two-factor authentication. I I click password and it says, you know Please go to your phone But instead of having to read a number off my phone and then type it in I just tap accept on my phone And then it says okay, your authenticated device says it's you will log you in seems great, right? Well, you know, I think that there are Certainly problems with it. Although I appreciate what they're trying to do and and trying to use elements of the technology To make sure that this is a more secure A more secure pathway than just a password which you know is pointed out many many times when discussing this kind of stuff Are a hilariously vulnerable especially when you repeat them and then don't use strong enough passwords But I guess the question is are the issues with this Are they an improvement on that? Yeah, what why aren't they doing two-factor? I just kind of don't under I don't understand why they I guess they're Just trying to make it easy and maybe this is more secure than your you know password named password or You know your your dog or that kind of thing. Maybe it's more. It's better than password one two three, right? Yeah, that's for sure one two three four five But I mean would would you guys do it? I I don't know I don't think that I would do it You know to replace a password. I would much rather do you know have like two-factor Authentication I'd feel a lot better about that than I would feel about this Well, it is fairly secure because you have to have the device and so it's kind of similar to two-factor authentication And that you know you have to have the device However, it's not to factor authentication, which is my problem with it And and it's they do have a backup for it which is sending a text or email It is in in surface ways very similar to The UAF standard that the Fido Alliance is trying to put forth where you you can do essentially a form of two-factor authentication on one device Using something biometric, but this just isn't what Yahoo's doing just isn't as robust as what Fido is recommending And Yahoo isn't part of the Fido Alliance and I wonder why if Yahoo wanted to do something like this Why not go the whole nine yards join Fido and be one of the first people to say hey You know what we're we're providing on device Authentication I guess the problem is they want to use your mobile device to be able to log into everything And I think the Fido thing only does the UF AF on a particular device and there's UTF Which allows you to do you know something with a UB key or something like that for two-factor authentication But in other words what I'm saying is there's lots of people working really hard to create a viable secure standard That we'll get rid of passwords. I don't understand why Yahoo just went off on their own and created something that might just cause more questions Yeah, exactly. You got to kind of applaud them for trying to you know tackle the password thing But at the same time like like you said why why go off and do your own thing this sort of strange a little implementation versus you know integrate with some standards or Or build on work that other people are already doing you know smart Smart people in the security field in you know authentication and identity So yeah, that's my problem with it to the biggest one is two-factor, but also that it's just kind of their own thing off You know off on their own So let me ask you a new question Because I think a lot of people when interacting with email usually work on devices for which they are already logged in What is the biggest use case for something like this is it signing into your email from a non-trusted third-party computer is it you know just if you're switching between Two inboxes that you know you have to enter in your your password periodically like what is the use case for this? well if I'm on my desktop and I don't want to have to remember the password right and it's it's it gets what Jason mentioned earlier It's I use the same password for everything so I can remember it Well now you can create a really complex password. You don't have to remember it and wherever you are With your laptop you and you've got your phone with you You just click password on your laptop and instead of asking you to put in your password It launches a notification on your phone and you go to your phone and you say yes I just tried to log in and then it automatically logs you in through the cloud on the desktop That is a little different than Fido because Fido works on the device Which is more secure because it keeps your authentication information away from third-party providers. Yeah But you do have to be connected on your phone. You got to be on Mobile data or oh, yeah, no, it's a good point. You do it without an internet connection on your phone You're not gonna be able to authenticate yourself Yeah, I mean It seems interesting. I applaud them doing it I don't know if it is if this is the like oh wow like slap your forehead We finally found the solution for for you know weak passwords Yeah, boy, I mean I do like that they I guess they're a little bit forward-looking You know they have said that they'll you know expand this so it can work with biometrics biometrics So presumably, you know, you could tie this into something like touch ID On on Apple and of course the new Nexus devices have fingerprint readers built in Which is great and Android devices have tried a number of different kind of biometrics including sort of the face facial recognition As well So, you know in that sense, you know to give them the benefit of the doubt Maybe they're gonna build on this to to try to do To do more I don't see how it's that It's almost like half a step toward things like What Google's doing, you know in Gmail with two-factor where you you get that You know when you log in you always get a thing which I'd recommend everybody if you're not already using Two-factor on your Google account To do that think about how much data they they have about you, you know It's not insignificant same thing with other services that offer it Twitter Slack, you know a number of others I mean I can I encourage I encourage everybody to use two-factor. I guess I guess I'm just not sure why they did this instead of just implementing standard two-factor I guess I mean maybe it's because they they did do they do have two-factor authentication for Yahoo mail And it just didn't get a lot of uptake and then they did the on-demand passwords thing where you could have a password Either texted or emailed to you. Yeah, and they didn't get a lot of uptake And so I think what they're saying is what's preventing people from taking these things up I guess it's implementation. Let's try to make the implementation even easier You don't have to look at anything else, you know that remember a number you just get you get a prompt You press yes, you log in but even then I just think I think your guys reaction is probably representative Which is most people just aren't going to want to bother with it until you make it So you don't have to do much of anything, which is sad to say in this world Where all kinds of information is being breached and leaked all over the place People aren't going to want to do a lot to secure their their email account and and and if Yahoo was cooperating with the Fido Alliance I feel like then we would we would start to have a ground swell right because then you'd see a lot of Different companies doing this and I think that's where if we have a hope of getting rid of passwords It's something like that and I'm not saying Fido is is is the you know the cure all for passwords But some sort of massive effort where lots of big companies not just a yahoo, but a Microsoft and a Facebook all at the same time Say we've got this new way of logging in it's really easy and it's really secure And we've brought in Bruce Schneier and all of these other people's to swear to it that it's really secure Go and use it and people are like wow, it's really easy and the smart people say it's secure. That's when we get to no passwords Well, yeah, I feel like this should end with with like a Wayne's world Well said Tom That's all right Let's get to our pick of the day Jeff from cool like the other side of the pillow Boston Says I saw browser stack in action the other day and came away very impressed It allows you to test web code of multiple versions of IE Firefox Chrome Safari, etc. across many devices Including Android and iOS all within the browser of your choice Especially cool is its ability to tunnel traffic back to your local machine So their cloud browsers can access code running on your development servers This of course saves you from keeping multiple browser versions virtual machines and mobile devices around to test your code for cross-platform Compatibility browser stack.com is the place if you want to find out more information about Jeff's pick Thank you Jeff for sending that you can send your picks to feedback at daily tech news show comm You can find my picks at daily tech news show comm slash picks All right, so we've got a lot of emails first of all around document signing Mike sent us an email detailing How he recently interviewed with Google? Digitally signed a form using his personal Komodo signing certificate Figuring that's a lot more secure than than some like Scrawling digital signature when he got to Google they made him wet sign the form again as he said Presumably because my digital signature didn't look as they expected when it printed out So even Google or at least some HR person there doesn't know how to properly deal with digital signatures Hashtag shots fired. Yeah, it's a bummer It's and it's just a representative sample of how Documents and signatures and whatnot just aren't no, but that's another problem people need to figure out. I mean We had an IT manager and an engineering firm named Mark wrote in concerning hybrid 2-in-1s and convertible form factors Says I can see something like the surface pro or surface book being very well received in some departments mainly by individuals who travel Extensively we use several Microsoft technologies like office and direct access for VPN list network connectivity Having Windows 10 on these systems will allow the user to have full laptop experience at a form factor That is more convenient for travel or in the field drawing check I know several individuals are trying to emulate this by using iPads or Android tablets But these require MDM mobile device management in order to receive email and are not allowed on the corporate network So they're packing multiple platforms I believe that the hybrid convertible form factor will be the system of choice for a small but Significant minority of corporate users in the next three to four years. What do you think of that Jason? Yeah? This is I think the person this is exactly right that mark I think mark is exactly right. We talked a good deal about this on the Tech of Public podcast this week with me and Bill Detweiler and Dan Patterson and Steve Ranger and We we kind of said the same thing that for a small number of people who need to do Multiple things with a tablet right that need to really multitask and have three or four apps that That they need to access The surface is really winning over a lot of users right now Versus like the iPad where you typically have one task or sometimes two that you need to do, you know It's it's it has a better app ecosystem and it's really good at those types of things and so but Like he said there there's the the MDM aspect is important or its new name emm enterprise mobility management So many acronyms, but I think that I think that the surface and now the surface book The surface pro for and now the surface book have a chance to win I think larger portions of that market of the very kind of professional users that sort of creative set the You know IT administrator set as well as those kind of power users who need to do who need to multitask on their tablets Now for the for the home user One of the points I was making is what if you have a lot of apps that you use on your Android tablet or your iOS tablet? Yeah, that aren't available for windows yet and Yaru from Malaysia where he says winter I mean the DMCA is coming. I think he's referring to the TPP He says look I use an app called manga rock on my iPad But he says he can't get it for his eight inch windows tablet, but there is an Android version So he tried a program called a mid OS which allows you to device emulate Android while running windows now That is kind of device or resource intensive So he also is considering dual built team with Android x86 the advantage This has over a mid OS is you don't need to share resources like RAM or the processor on a device like a tablet That's an important Consideration as resources are tight and limited So if you're someone who is thinking about getting a windows tablet and has a couple of Android Apps that they don't want to give up. This might help you make the transition if you want. Yeah, it's good stuff And I find a big drawback. Sorry. That is yeah. Yeah, right? Absolutely Steve wanted to tell us about a group called not impossible labs at not impossible calm They do a program called the eye writer They hacked together away for an LA graffiti artist with ALS to paint again With the use of eye gaze Technology it's a cool example of the maker community coming together and using technology to enable the expression of someone's artistic ability That was previously thought lost Steve works for the CEA and accessibility issues among other things. He found a YouTube video Of the demonstration of this. It's just fantastic. Yeah, we've written about not impossible multiple times on tech Republic including the eye writer and they've did some other things where they went into Into Africa and 3d printed limbs for for for kids who had lost their limbs like because of mine, you know Mines and that kind of thing and they taught The community there how to do it themselves to basically take a basic off the shelf 3d printer and and use it to reprint to print replaceable limbs. It's amazing stuff Very cool stuff Steve. Thanks for sending that along and thank you Jason Heiner for joining us today man. It was fantastic Yeah, I love it anytime. Go check out tech Republic comm of course That is Jason's domain and of course follow the geeks book comm couple couple more weeks left in the Leo Laporte chapter, right? Yes, a couple weeks left there to read that for free So so come on over and do that send us some feedback on any of the chapters Remember including chapter four about mr. Tom Merritt and you will get your chance if you what we'll include We're gonna include the best insights that we get from the chapters in the book at the end So it's your chance to have your voice included in the book That is great great folks in that book Veronica Belmont is in there Gina Trapani is in there Lots of good good folks And I I've read all your free chapters so far and I'm still can't wait to read the final version because of All of the insights and things that people are contributing and I can't wait to see the final version Really awesome. Thanks for having me Tom and thanks Justin Justin Robert young Yeah What's up with you? Oh Man, we got all sorts of stuff happening head on over to the contender game dot us You will I should know I think it's the contender. 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I guess we've never podcasted before together. That's right. I hadn't even thought about that. Yeah. No, I don't I do not believe so. No Very cool And I am gonna go right back to sleep. Okay. Yeah, get some rest man. Good job though. Well done. I'll talk to you Jason if you need to take off Definitely take off as well. I do have to break off and go edit a couple things. No worries So so yeah, but pleasure being on Always fun and yeah, hit me up anytime. Absolutely. Thanks for being on man. All right. See you soon You know what and I forgot to to promote five apps. I should have done that too So I'll do it now for whoever is left listening or watching go to tech republic comm Look up the videos or just search five apps And it's a series of videos that I do that's complementary to a series of columns that they write Recommending five apps for business nerds every week. You I do for a month Go check it out tech republic comm Thanks, Tim Vick Tim Vick says they'll keep me company Rogers around to hey, Roger Hello What should we pick for the title no more passwords exclamation point yahoo exclamation point yahoo up their standards now up yours Too many papers exclamation point a lot of exclamation points to do get rid of to do Google I choose you nice Pokemon reference Past words that's pretty elegant. Do you have a favorite Roger? Can't really hear you There that really comes out and bites me I kind of like past words oh Pat past words yahoo up to their standards and how up yours is funny and No more passwords exclamation point yahoo. Those are my three favorite out of this bunch No more passwords. Yeah, I would go with no more passwords yahoo I'll vote for that Descriptive okay, we'll give it a couple of I Got I still got to import this into So no, it's level 8 it's give give show about another couple seconds here shake out No co that's his last name Yeah, I'll have their standards now if yours is making me laugh though That's because of that commercial with was it Orlando Jones. No, it wasn't him seven up up yours Yeah, up yours make seven up yours You know I am gonna go with no more passwords yahoo though I'm gonna listen to my better the Roger a better Roger of my angel the angel of my better Roger wait something Angels of our nature. Are you implying? I'm an angel. We're an angel Roger That's what my mother used to tell me Said no one ever. Hey Did you have a pet and did your mother have a pet name for you when you grew up? Yeah, she called me Tom instead of Thomas Except when you were in trouble. Yeah, exactly Thomas Andrew Merrick get in here That's one of those things that I think happened, but I actually don't remember happening Like it feels familiar like yeah, I got called Thomas Andrew Merrick when I was in trouble Sure, I did But I think I can't I couldn't actually describe Me a situation I remember where it actually happened Like I've only been called by my proper name And if there was some sort of family meeting, but that's about it, but it was in trouble. It's just like, okay We're gonna move But if I was it was in trouble would be they would scream out Roger Get smacked. Did you my dad my dad actually never smacked me my mom did the the knuckle wrap against the tub the temples Oh, yeah, it's a it's a classic you Chinese parent technique I get slapped on the back of my hand You know sort of like reaching the reaching classic reaching for the cookie when you're not supposed to Yeah, I don't know physical. I don't I don't know if physical deterrence would have worked against me unless you were And that's just made me make sure I didn't get caught next time Don't get ripped on the hand better do it when she's not looking exactly I'm Mostly positive about agents of shield this year No, I just can't get it's during the third season, right? Yeah Too late. I tried I tried the first season. I just hated it I know the first half of the first season, especially is just bad It's less such a foul taste and it's weird because I'm actually trying to stick through Gotham even though Yeah, I grew up on Gotham really uneven. I there's some really good episodes. Yeah, really shines like all this is But then there are other ones. It's like, I don't know Which is why I like flash and arrow because they're not they're not like amaze balls kind of thing But they are solid. They're consistently. Yeah, my only issue with the flash this week. Have you watched it? Yeah, okay I'm not I'm not gonna get spoilery for anybody listening But you know my only issue with the flash this week is that I didn't quite buy Barry's attitude towards J I See yeah, you know beginning and then they did that scene with iris that kind of like Brought it out and made it so it's like, okay that that made me feel a little better about it Like they weren't ignoring that he was overreacting. No irises. I think the weakest character the character is not not the actress But the way they've characterized her because she does a complete 180 For this season because she's a total like oh, but I'm I'm I don't care I know what you mean, but I'm like I so prefer this iris over the one I agree, but it's like it's so There wasn't even that kind of epiphany moment where oh, maybe there was after what's his name popped or killed himself to stop the bad guy I'm trying to avoid spoilers. Yeah. Yeah, but that was a major spoiler, but at least you didn't say the name Yeah, but uh, I See what you mean, but I think that has more to do with just the actors approach to kind of To kind of the way it's portrayed Like I I see the whole thing of him feeling kind of like that way and why he would act that way Now Laura Oman says there's still some bad and tropery writing in flash and arrow, but that but see that this is the thing That genre it lends itself incredibly to that kind of thing, right? Superhero TV shows are incredibly trope heavy. So I think what you're saying is in this case That's a taste issue not a quality issue. Yeah, exactly It's it's it goes with the content. It goes with that genre. It's like saying police procedurals deal so much with you know Like criminal drama. It's like yeah, of course, you know, that's a trope to that You know, there's always a bad cop Although that's that's one of the things that people who praise the wire in the shield is that it broke out of that to A degree to a degree but not it didn't free itself completely Which is weird because then I see the shield on Gotham. What's his name? Well, Michael chick list? Yeah, I know I mean, I said she's not with the shield. He's Michael chick list. It doesn't matter. He's the shield to me He's the thing to me because I never saw the shield until after I'd seen Fantastic Four And DC has a character called the shield that they got when they bought Charlton or some other comics company, which was a blatant ripoff of Captain America No, actually, you know, they created the shield first And I think time we got super captain America because they both use shields And so captains America she'll went from the kind of the angular police Badge style shield to the circular one which ended up being a much better replacement because you can throw the round shield and make it stuff and roll on the ground and it's so iconic now Because of that and I really like the new season of dr. Who which is funny because I didn't think I would Really? Oh, so we can actually start watching talking about it on East meets West again I'm only on the third episode because well, there's only been three but wait, there's four five episodes so far of Dr. Who yeah, then you see the three has it No, there was the latest one was the Maybe there's been four. No, there's been four or five. No, we've definitely not been five. Okay Because there was there was a two-parter that just concluded Well, that there was the season premiere, but that was also a two-parter the season premiere So I think you're right. There's four, okay There's four so I have not seen the second half of the two-parter of the Underwater one. Yeah, I haven't seen the second half of that But I really like it now like I The first the first Capaldi season was all over the place and I just totally did not care like if they if he sent the TARDIS into the middle of a Supernova, it's like whatever I felt like the problem the problem with last season was they that Moffat was trying to play around with like The doctor having doubt which you know, okay, that's fine You know, that's a that's a great way to investigate investigate a character and flush out a character But that's not why I like doctor the doctor. I like the doctor because he doesn't have much doubt. I Don't mind him having periods of doubt or like dark sides or whatever But I don't want that to be him and like most of last season was the doctor just like am I a good man Of course, you're in time already don't know the rules don't apply. So this this is the thing that bothers me I understand it's the same doctor no matter what What what kind of a regeneration he goes into but it's just like right off the bat he's like emo and And you you really like I don't even know enough about this character like the even with Chris Eccleston they get you know, they gave it to them a little bit of that at the beginning, but It was drawn out. It wasn't just like, okay Now I'm moody and gonna be like a weird persnickety. You know, I guess that's the kind of thing I I really liked about the reboot and not reboot But the restart and Chris Eccleston was that they made him have a reason to be a little moody, right? He was the last of the time lords and I loved that because that pervaded him It wasn't just a crisis of like, oh, I don't know if I'm good anymore. I'm not gonna be good at things I'm I'm I'm angry at you for no reason The stories just weren't very entertaining. Yeah, it just weren't enjoyable. They were just boring Like the after the whole The season opener the two virus like oh, this is really good. I like it now There's especially when Davros goes all like, you know My nephew or like he totally screws with the doctor's head. I like that aspect Like he goes into the whole fake drama thing. I did it again. I'm sorry. Sorry. No, it's not your fault That's what my fourth girlfriend said to me. You did it wrong I don't know how this how that happened I need to go on track All right, I'm gonna go okay and tell everyone goodbye. Thanks for hanging out everybody. We'll talk to you later I'm gonna fix this. Goodbye