 Hello, it must be the end of the day there. Can you hear me? Yes. I mean we're here today, it's about 5.30 in the afternoon, 60 Spanish teachers are here in the University Menendez Pelayo in Cuenca in Spain. They traveled from all over Spain to be here this whole week. They are teachers that teach in bilingual programs, English, but they are native Spanish speakers as you are as well. And they want to learn about technology and how to use technology, Google of course, in their classroom. They work with children from K to 6, so from 3 years old to 10 years old, that's the range. And they are really excited and grateful to have you there. Leslie here is helping me out. I live in Colorado, Breckenridge, and we're really excited to hear you. Thank you. 8 o'clock in the morning here, and you caught me in the middle of, I don't want to say it's vacation, but I just came from a long weekend in Chicago watching the Grateful Dead concert, and so this is the first work thing. I went to three shows of the Grateful Dead concert now and here, and I'm on vacation this week, but Becky asked me to do this because she thought you guys were especially unique, so I figured I would jump on. So forgive the scruffy look and me just eating on vacation, but here I am, how are you doing? I can talk about anything that you want me to talk about. I can talk about what Google is doing. I can talk a little bit about what I think is going on in education. We can talk about any questions that you guys might have. Does that work? I assume everyone can see me. I see you guys, but I don't see your group. You want to turn it around? We can do that. Thank you for that ride. I am not a rock star. I just want to go see rock stars in Chicago. Yeah, so let's talk a little bit about what's going on in the world. The big thing is obviously there's a big push with technology, and I think one of the things that we're seeing is an escalation of technology in education because it's become easy to use. It's become cheap, it's become part of our language, it's become part of our world. It's just something that is inevitable to come into education. I've been at Google for nine years and I've been involved in education for nine years while I've been at Google and I watched the world happen. The interesting thing that why I'm excited about this is because it's for the first time you can actually have access to all the world's information. If we talk about technology, we'll start with the most relevant part of technology, which is the internet. The internet gives you the ability to reach information that you've never been able to reach before. When we were kids, when I was a kid, we used to have to go to this big box thing called the library and get books, and we no longer have to do that. We now have literally every library at our fingertip, and so how do we take advantage of that? How do we bring that into our classroom? That's the first thing that's happening with technology is the internet, and how do we incorporate what's happening on the internet into our everyday instruction, and so that's a big thing. The key thing there is to make sure that what we're not doing is we're not taking technology, we're not taking the internet, we're not taking devices, we're not taking Chromebooks or iPads, and just putting it on top of our current system and saying that we're doing technology in education, because the truth is then what we're really doing is taking the old education model and putting technology on top of that and saying that we're advancing and we're really not, because the truth is it's not that technology is the focus of what's happening in education, technology gets the most attention, but what's really happening is we need to look at education in the same way that we did 150 years ago and say do we have the right model of education for the future, are we building the skills, are kids building the skills that they need for the future? Here in the US I was talking to a teacher a couple of weeks ago and she said literacy was a big problem, like kids couldn't read at the grade level that they needed to read at, and so we're talking about one specific, a couple of her students and she was saying that they were in high school and they were reading at a fifth grade level or sixth grade level and that was a problem, and yes it's a problem, but it's only a problem because of the economy that we're facing. 50 years ago reading at a fifth grade, reading at a sixth grade level wasn't that bad for you, right, because you could graduate high school or secondary school, you could go get a job at the factory, you would get a job in a blue collar job and do really well and you could work at the factory, get promoted, become a manager, have a whole team and you could have a wife and kids and a house and a car and everything was there and it didn't matter that you read at a third grade level or fourth grade level, you could survive, you could live and thrive because we lived in a blue collar world, we lived in an industrial world. Now we can see when people can't read because reading is important in this new economy, intellect is important, knowledge is important in this new economy, global community, global competency skills are important, language are important, right, I get asked all the time if my 13 year old is going to learn another language and I always say yes, Python, right, the future is in computer science, it's in programming, it's in knowledge based economy, it's in design thinking, it's in most things and so what we need to do in education is look at the best of what we've done over the last 100 and 150 years and say what of that is really, really good that we have to keep doing and then look at the future and look at what kinds of jobs there are in the future and look at what kind of skills kids are going to need in the future and then apply a different set of school methodologies so that we can build the skills that kids need, right and the skills are obvious, right, so I always talk about how I don't like to ask kids what they want to be when they grow up because the jobs don't exist and more importantly, I don't want to, you know, it's funny, we talk here in the US, we talk about college and career ready, we have to make college kids college and career ready, well most of the people that I know outside of education and this is true but most people I know outside of education don't like their jobs, right, they ended up working in some space that they don't like and they're always trying to get out of that, I don't want to create a generation of kids that just go through jobs, right, I want to create a generation of kids that are problem solvers and so instead of asking our kids what you want to be when you grow up, we should ask them what problem you want to solve and then that changes the conversation, right, when you ask a kid what problem you want to solve, you no longer asking that kid what do you want to, where do you want to go work in the future, you're asking them what autonomy do you want to have, what purpose do you want to serve and what mastery do you want to create, like what is it that you want to drive towards and it gives kids a different set of expectations, right, all of a sudden you're saying what is the problem that you want to solve and the problem doesn't have to be world hunger or it doesn't have to be you know solving the financial crisis in Greece, right, the problem can be making blenders quieter, making cars go faster, making cars use less gas, whatever that problem is asking kids what problem you want to solve changes the conversation because now you can say well what do you think the knowledge skills and abilities are that you need to solve that problem and how do you get those knowledge skills and abilities and then you can bring in technology into this and you can say well who should you be following on LinkedIn and on Twitter and on Facebook, what blog should you be reading, what website should you be subscribed to, what updates, you know I have my Twitter is set up so that you know I get updates from specific people when they tweet so I know what they're talking about and what they're saying and what they're publishing, right, it's a whole new ball game of of developing the knowledge skills and abilities I can take a class and anything in the world I can learn to do any it's like the it's like the matrix without the thing plugging into your head, right, you can you can literally learn anything that you want to learn at any point in time and so that changes the conversation and so in that world in that context of kids that are solving problems and developing the knowledge skills and abilities that they need what does an education model look like for that and when you spin it like that then it's it's clear and obvious that what we need is a student-centric learning model right where the student becomes a center point of what what learning looks like and and that's the individual angle to that the second part of that is that we need to teach real collaboration skills right because we talk about collaboration in education but we don't mean it right because it's my 14 year old who has I keep on him 13 he's 14 I keep on him 13 he's 14 and he's got homework his assignments his tests his grades and then he graduates when we say good luck right go work with others and so the the the real collaboration that we need to teach our kids has to happen in in school where they can ask really they learn how to ask really good questions they learn how to question facts they learn how to vet information they they learn how to build consensus they learn that part of what they do is only greater with the sum of the group that they're working with right so you know imagine as teachers you hand out a test and at the end of that test two kids come up holding the test together and saying we decided to combine our skills and work on this test together right and and I'll flip that into my world where I would go to Larry and Sergey the co-founder of Google and say here's the education plan I did it all by myself right I didn't ask anyone I didn't talk to anyone no I swear I didn't talk to any of the other teams I did this all by myself so it doesn't work in the real world so real collaboration is the ability to ask good questions to listen real collaboration is the ability to change your mind real collaboration is ability to build consensus and we are not doing that in education and so when we think about the future the future is a world where the most critical elements are going to be around innovation and iteration right I think my wife and I created like four companies in our heads on the way back from Chicago this weekend right you know just you're always thinking about different ideas and different approaches are you guys still there all right sorry you froze it for a second as long as you can hear me the the the real the real future is about iteration and innovation and so that's what I think is what we need more than anything in education is a culture of iteration and innovation right I usually put up a picture of the original google.com hang on a second let me see if I can do this quickly I put up a picture of the original google.com and I highlight the fact that this this this is what google looked like at the beginning hang on one second let me see if I can let me see if I can improvise here real quick and and then I and I'll show you I'll see if I can put up this picture and show it to you because it's it's critical to think about what my kind of my my main point here and then and then I'll answer any questions that you guys have but but what's critical here is um let me see if I can do this correctly all right well I'm not a screen share now I'm starting to print everything okay oh maybe you want some help so if you can see that quickly that that part right there this is what google looked like um at at the at the beginning right this is a bunch of computers put together by larry and serge and this is what google looked like at the beginning now this is what google looks like today look like at the beginning and then it it this is what google looked it's not that google looked like this on monday and then this is what it looked like on thursday this took 16 years of communication collaboration problem solving critical thinking all the things that you need in education today and more importantly this is not what a data center will look like 15 years from today because if it does then we're dead there is no data center right it just like there is no classroom there is no education it's we need to stop thinking like that we have to we have there is no classroom of the future there is no education of the future i don't believe in any of that what i believe in is a a group of dedicated committed educators focused on their kids in their school who want to give them the very best of what's possible and and they're going to continuously innovate and iterate around those kids to provide that to them that's what education looks like in my head right and and and so i'm not looking in education we tend to look for the perfect model or just show me what the perfect model looks like and i'll just go do that and the truth is that that doesn't exist right the truth is that it is um it is this constant iteration this constant shift to thinking about um what's best for our students and what can we do for them so that they're always learning they're always engaged always that it's always relevant and technology whether we like it or not is part of that because this is a generation of kids who are growing up that don't know any better right they don't know that the world existed before google they don't know that the world existed before computers and smartphones they don't know that the world existed before wi-fi right you know that we're going on our we're going for a week starting on thursday up to the cabin in greer um with a family right so it's it's not just me my wife the kids it's her parents so it's a big family thing and in a big cabin and i have not told my 14-year-old that there's wife that there's no wi-fi in that cabinet like i'm afraid to tell him because he would try to hide when we leave right just the idea of him being somewhere there's no wi-fi it's like saying to a kid i'm sorry where we're going there is no oxygen so you have to wear this oxygen tank the whole time right like they have no idea what you're talking about so so that's that those are the kids that are coming into our school system so we have to make sure we're ready for them anyway i'll stop talking uh that's kind of a little bit of the stuff that i talk about or think about and and write about but we'd love to answer any questions since i'm in the room with you guys and it's vain and i'm sure the weather is beautiful and i've actually never visited so i actually want to go to spain so i'm jealous that you guys are there oh next year we're formally inviting you next year to come over all these teachers will come back i promise yeah aren't you you come back with Jaime uh okay so we have started collecting some questions for you here um that can uh yeah well some of them are kind of tricky maybe for you because here in Spain the educational reality is different and something you get every day is that teachers go to their classrooms and they don't have connection to internet and sometimes they don't even have proper computers so is google doing anything to provide some kind of better access to school around the world to internet i mean let's keep in mind that this is a temporary problem right even even though you can feel it right it's a temporary problem in the sense that in 1995 only one percent of the world had connectivity to the internet right 1995 one percent so that wasn't that long ago it took 10 years to get to the first billion five years to get to the second billion and four years to get to the third billion so now we have 40 percent of the world online that's still not enough but we're making progress um we are going to get to the point where it gets really really hard in some areas and so we're going to have to be innovative in how we provide internet access so here in the united states even not everyone has internet connectivity as well i mean it's better than most other countries but there are some other countries that are even better than the united states especially for high-speed broadband connectivity which is really what we need um so so so a couple things google has partnered with a bunch of organizations providing internet access but we've also done our own stuff so we we just recently are piloting a program called project loon so i encourage everyone to to look at that l o o n it's called project loon l o o n and we're we're we're experimenting with balloon launching balloons into space to provide internet access uh and connectivity to rural areas that don't have access so that's one thing we're working on we're also working and i hate the word to use the word drones but those are what they are using drones to provide internet connectivity areas that don't have access so we have a number of projects that are doing this but i'll say this about internet connectivity compared to other industrial revolution i don't know if as amer as as as humans we recognize the real power and potential internet right and what it can do for commerce we look at it as a nice to have we look at it as a yeah i'm living my life it would be nice to have internet connectivity but it doesn't necessarily do anything for me and and that's not anywhere near truth right i can start a business right now this very minute on the internet right i can start a commerce i can educate myself i can do all these things and the funny thing is when the last revolution happened the industrial revolution we built these factories and these big buildings and everyone moved to the cities to work in these factories right the internet the internet started and everyone isn't moving to the cities because that's where internet connectivity is they're saying i'm going to wait here until you bring internet to me right so that's a different mindset than it was in the first revolution right and so so those factors give us this gap in time it's like saying during the industrial revolution like hey those those factories that you built in the city that's great can you come up into the rural areas where we don't have factories and build one here for me so i could work right we didn't do that during the industrial revolution we're we're doing that now so it's going to take longer because we're covering more space in this revolution so uh we're all working on it in the meantime hold on in the meantime most of our stuff works offline right so google apps for education works offline um can you hear me okay yeah next question um i was just curious what was one of your best ideas after the Grateful Dead show if you can share it or is it top secret because that's really cool portable gyms uh crossfit i don't know how big crossfit is in in spain but crossfit is big here in the us and we're we're talking about like a company that goes around to all the crossfit gyms and provides uh like these out of the world kind of experiences for crossfitters who are insane people already and so we're talking about that business but anyway that's just one example of the different things you can do how crazy you were talking about your children and how your children is going to feel or how he's going to complain about not having a wi-fi um we're concerned about um this question um would you limit or did you in your case limit this screen time uh with your own children at some point anything that would do moderation is key i have to limit screen time for me right like i want to i want to go i mean i'm off today and and and i have to work i'm speaking at the white house in a couple weeks and i have to and i have to write the speech that i'm going to give there and and um i have to i have to moderate my work right like this is supposed to be my day off and here i am talking to you guys and so and so moderation is critical for anything that we do right like my wife moderates my work because i she's as soon as she wakes up she's going to get out of here and so and so i think moderation is important for anything that we do so for my kids absolutely they have to have you know you have to teach them the key thing here is we need to teach our kids how to cross the street right and and the internet is this big giant street and we have to teach them how to cross it how to behave on it how to act on it and if they're not learning this in school where is it that they're going to learn how to do this they're going to learn the wrong behaviors in other circles and so in education is where we can teach them how to be good digital leaders right and that's absolutely critical but yeah moderation absolutely critical for anything that we do no matter no matter what it is right too much gym time is bad for you right whatever whatever moderation thing that you need that's what we need to focus on we have to also keep in mind one thing though about these kids is two things one is that we remember as we get older we we are forced to to be like our parents and and act like these these kids today they don't know a they don't know b they don't know c right so we got to keep that in mind because the truth is that there are no different than we are it's just a different thing that they're they're addicted to just like when we were kids right and and two we do have to keep in mind that how they learn is different than the way we learned and we can't force the way we learn onto our kids we have to accept the way they learn right and and that's just something that and that's and that's just something that we have to we have to live by right and and I'm almost guilty I tell the story about my my daughter we were flew to Hawaii for one of our vacations and she hated to fly so I bribed her and drugged her up and when we got to Hawaii she got a ukulele because she's a musician she plays instruments and we're walking out of the store and this is like a couple years ago so this is in the middle of my role and what I'm doing at google and I noticed instruction books and videos on how to play the ukulele and so I say hey you want to buy a book or a video on how to play the ukulele because that's how I grew up learning right you went and got formal training on something and and she looked at me like I was insane because how is she gonna learn to play ukulele she's gonna watch youtube videos right which is natural for her and so we have to always keep that in mind that how we learn how we learn how to do things is different in the way kids are learning how to do things today one one more question the last please okay this question comes from Caesar here uh he wants to know how do you envision how do you visualize the classrooms in the future in the next future if classroom brick and mortar are going to keep the same way or if you have a different vision of classrooms an idea of classroom of the future um doesn't make sense because here's here's the biggest problem I think that we have is that we we pretend like education is this formal thing that happens to us and then we stop doing it right I've been at google for nine years in the nine years that I've been here you know we bought youtube we launched gmail we launched google plus we launched hangouts we launched uh chromebooks we launched android we launched android tablets we launched google play you know just in nine years that I've been here the world has changed dramatically I can't stop learning right the idea that I can stop learning at some point and I remember when I was done with graduate school I said I am done learning I never have to learn again and nothing to be further from the truth we have this idea of what learning should look like that learning happens to us as opposed to something that we control so where I see the future is this idea that we we're you know how many how many of you say that you wish that you went to college in your 30s and not right after high school because or after secondary school right because you know more and you know how to behave more so so take that same attitude and now sprinkle it throughout all your years right so that potentially you take a couple of post-secondary school to get you started on whatever career you want to go on whatever problem you want to solve and then every year you take a certain amount of time to learn new things it becomes part of your of your of your of your learning it becomes part of your kind of career that every year you're learning something new because that's the world that we live in today so so I don't see a change look at the end of the day I have I want yes you're my you're a teacher I want you to take my kid all day I you know your job go go go take care of my kid but in that in that time that you have my kid how does that become student-centric how does that become about what the kid wants to learn how does that become about what you think the kids should learn around the critical skills or problem solving and critical thinking and and and all the things that we want our kids to know how to do I just the last story here and then I would encourage all teachers to look in a little bit into computer science we tend to shy away from computer science because we're not engineers and we don't know how to do computer science and the truth is you don't have to be a computer scientist to manage or to facilitate a group of kids learning computer science right think of it as being a soccer coach or football coach or a basketball coach you know you don't have to be messy to teach kids how to play football right the the the the idea is the same in computer science great thing about computer science is that if you can guide students they can learn together and they can help each other I'm starting a school here in Phoenix Arizona inside the school district called the Phoenix Code Academy and it's going to be an inquiry-based school where kids are going to learn project-based they're going to learn through project-based learning but the projects that they're going to be working on are computer science projects and so they're going to take you know English and history and science and all the regular classes but they're going to do it in a in a collaborative project-based way and they're going to learn computer code computer science at the same time so that when they graduate secondary school they're going to have skills in in deep learning but also in computer science and and and so those kinds of combinations of things is what I see the future having holding for us thank you so much well our this group of teachers were already very motivated very committed and I guess after this talk they're going to be 100 percent into this technological change into the classroom etc etc so I'm really grateful because today with this piece of talk you gave us you help us a lot and it's going to spread probably all throughout Spain and we hopefully will see you next year here yeah and say thank you to your wife gracias and to you of course for taking vacation time for us thank you very much Jaime well thank you very much for having me you can you know we can always keep conversations going on Twitter I'm at Twitter at JCASAP or just call as soon as possible but the but we can keep conversations going on Twitter on on people plus in other places but just the last thing I want to say is thank you for having me and inviting me in and and I'm really excited about education because the teachers you have in this room whether they like it or not they are the generation of teachers that are creating the future learning models you know right you they're the ones who are building what learnings don't look like in the future and and that's a pretty awesome responsibility and and the uh and and and for the first time in the 150 year history of education we're seeing a shift to a more student-centric learning model and the teachers in your room are going to be the ones that drive that so thank you very much for having me adios