 Cordero got another chance to go back there. When did you make that decision and what went into it? Decisions may, you know, throughout the week being able to have him back some blessing, have him back, you know, one on the team and then as our returner, he does a good job of decision making and he's a threat every time he has the ball in his hands, whether he's an offense or special teams. So that decision was made during the week last week. Second of the hurdle situation, it looked like if he got, if he made that play, he might have had it as that's the way it looked when you looked at it again. For sure. A lot of returns in NFL, throughout the weeks, you look at big returns. They're usually one block away, maybe a half block away or broken tack away from it being a touchdown. And that was the case on Thursday. You look at the return game, it's a big run play. You know, there's 40 or more yards being exchanged on a kickoff or a kickoff or a punt, but kickoff returns a big run play. So there's a lot of space involved and a lot of blocking. It's a longer run play as you look at it on offense compared to special teams. So it's harder for the return units to get those blocks of spring returns open, especially when you're going against, when teams are going against a returner like CP and we got to expect for every team to bring their A game when they go against CP as the returner. So we got to do a better job overall. It starts for myself when it comes to the basic fundamentals and finishing our blocks to give our offense either extra first downs or put up points on the board. No, there's there's been explosive returns right now. It's not as many touchdowns. There's only one kickoff return for a touchdown. And there's hasn't been any punt returns for touchdowns, but there has been punt blocks for touchdowns when it comes to the return game, though, like I said, there's longer run plays. They're harder to get those. But there has been a lot of explosive returns in the return game, whether you talk about punt return or kickoff return. Yeah, this is randomness, but they'll start to come in bunches as the season goes on. There's going to be again, like I was talking with Josh, like there's always one block away from it being a touchdown for various teams. When it comes to that, when it comes to explosive returns or explosive returns for touchdowns, it's been a couple and then it goes back to us just being have an urgency with the details and finishing our blocks. And is it hard? Yes, for the players out there, it is hard, but it's going to make it worth it when you gain those extra first downs or you score touchdowns. Scoring touchdowns in NFL, whether it's offense, defense or special teams, it's hard to do and we firmly believe great plays made from great effort. Our guys are giving great effort. We just have to go out there and continue to finish and use our proper technique and win play side number. And again, it starts with me as a coach doing a better job each and every week, putting our guys in the best positions to finish their blocks and create explosive returns. I mean, one, it starts with me. You know, Coo's doing a great job. Bradley and those guys are doing there's no excuse for that. Like our job is the we're out there to put points on the board. And there's been a quite a few P.A.T.'s missed this year in NFL, whether you're playing an early game in the sea or early Thursday night game or if you're playing a late Monday night game, Monday game. Like those those things happen. We got to do a better job just overall operationally. And you can't just put that on Coo. Like one is with me. It starts with myself making sure to continue to always make sure our guys are ready, staying in the present. When it comes to those things, but when you talk about snap, hold and kick, he's the third part of that whole situation. And then you had a fourth variable. We talk about protection. Then you got a fifth variable when you talk about weather, you know, so all those things come into play. But at the end of the day, we're process driven. And we got to make sure that we're all dialed in and we make sure because something could be tweaked by half an inch or anything like that. And they could cause a big result. So when it comes to P.A.T.'s, like that's our job to make those kicks. There's something in Carolina that's tough to judge or read? No, no, it's our job. We can't allow the external change who we are and what we're about internally when it comes to our operation and what we do on special teams. I don't say it's anything about Carolina. I mean, yes, we missed, not he, we missed two P.A.T.'s. But you look back to here, he had the Pro Bowl season. He had three, there was three P.A.T.'s missed that season. But he was a Pro Bowl player at the Calipa player, which he still is. It's just our job as a staff and as a unit. We got to make sure all 11 guys are in tune doing our job on every single opportunity because you never know when that opportunity is going to affect the game. And yes, those are two points, two P.A.T.'s equals two points. But our momentum changing plays. We go down there, you score a touchdown, you put six points on the board. Now you could give them a little bit of momentum by missing a P.A.T. whether it's not all 11 guys doing their job. Even the same thing happened to Carolina, too, when it comes to P.A.T.'s. Yeah, we always over, even when we make P.A.T.'s or field goals, we're still looking at the operation because we could get fixated on the result. But the process and operation wasn't as clean when it comes to that. There was a P.A.T. or field goal that we made versus Seattle. And it wasn't clean operation, but the ball go through the uprights. As a coach and as players, we could be like, oh, yeah, the results were good on to the next, or we got to be dialed in and focus on that process and operation so it doesn't hurt us in the long run. So whether we won this game by 20 points or if we lose the game by 10 points, we're still looking at our operation. We're still looking at our basic fundamentals. We're still looking at our techniques. We're still looking at situational football. Doesn't matter about the results. We're still going to look at that stuff. So I don't see it as an eye opening moment. This is just things that if you want to make it an eye opening moment, that's you as a person doing that. But it doesn't matter the result. We got to just make sure that we're dialed in and those little details, because if we're died on our little details and we stay consistent with our details, that allows us to be great as a unit, which that's our focus. And that's our overall goal. Scott, if that answer your question, how do you guys are kind of handling the running back rotation or usage? I guess, how do you guys, what's the philosophy there at the moment? Well, I think for us, and again, I think it permeates throughout the rest of the offense is the availability on Sunday with your number being called up on game day as an active allows us and the player to participate and have a chance to play. So when it comes to rotations of tight ends, backs, wide outs, anything that might happen up front, the reality is what we try to do is give eyes opportunities where they have some part of the game plan in which they can be a part of. Therefore, I always felt and so did obviously coach Smith, right? As former players, you feel like, Hey, we're part of this. Here's our plan. Here's our part of it. And then obviously if there's issues that come up and you have to play more because of whatever, then you're obviously aware of that. But again, when it comes to rotations and usage and time, it's more about flow of game, obviously how the plays are called. And then we kind of go from there. But the reality when you look at it is you want guys to understand on game day, everybody's involved and everybody has a chance to not only participate, but to contribute. And I think that's what we're trying to do. And when you look at it, that just depends upon usage and who gets a chance to carry the ball or catch the ball or even play. All right. We want to give everybody an opportunity to go compete. I guess let me draw that down with CP specifically. He only gets five carries. And I know he lines up everywhere, but with some of that, just him still getting ramped back up with the short week or I'm just trying to understand like, I guess, kind of the theory of him going forward. Yeah, I think for us, you know, CP or any of those backs, the way the game was being played out to, right? You had a situation where, again, I always go back to the fact that you can't stay on the field on third down. You limit your opportunities of drives and plays. Now you get two minute situations, end of game before half, those plays add up. But in time, a first, second down in the first, second and third quarter and fourth quarter in which are not situational. Those dictate the amount of reps or plays anybody's going to get. So I think at times when, you know, if you're looking at a CP or anybody else that has a usage that is high or low, sometimes it is dependent upon how the game is being played. Nothing was set out to say, all right, CP going, getting five here, just seeing how the game flow is going. End up being that situation. How have you seen Drake come on in growth throughout the course of the season? Yeah, that's a good question. I think with Drake, first and foremost with the rookie coming in, it's, you always, you get the physical part because that's why you drafted them, right? But the mental part is where you always want to see where guys are at. Again, what we ask guys on offense to do, they're a part of, not just the pass game at wide up, but they're part of the run game. And you can see Drake taking that professionalism in the meeting rooms and trying to bring it to the practice and then carrying it forward to the game. Just like, you know, all the young guys that we have, that's always part of the maturation process. If it's Drake or it's Algier or any of the young guys that we have on the roster or you want to see how they're able to grow through the season and grow in the meeting room and then be able to bring to the practice field that same kind of intensity mentally. And then on Sundays, how they show up physically. And so we're right. There's like two weeks left from the college season plus bowls, right? So for some of these younger guys, right? They're all of a sudden, their clocks are different. We essentially have a lot of football left here. And so that's also part of, you know, watching the young guys and seeing how they're doing mentally and physically. Um, but all those guys have taken the task of being a professional. And that means a lot to them. And that's why they're here. And so you'd like to see it and they're doing a good job of that. I feel the void of the ladder, not at all. I keep staring at the chair and it's just not, this is, no, you're right. You got to go to the helmet here on Sunday. So you guys are ready to go. No, no one wants to give anyone that would go very badly. Come on now. Yeah. Yeah, I would say that. I think, I think when you think about deep balls, right? Let's just get somewhat technical here for a second from the quarterback spot, right? So you drop back. Let's say it's not a play action. Let's say you got your eyes down the field. Okay. Now you have to decide, right? How you're going to hold your eyes in that post safety, right? Within a few seconds, then you have to, once you hold that post safety, then you have to realize, okay, did that guy win? What I mean by win is, is he even or is he clearly by the guy? If that is now all within that same timeframe, you have to determine what we say in the quarterback room is club selection, right? What type of flight are you going to put on that ball? So all those things need to be manufactured within a short amount of time. Let's say the corner's on top. You're very committed to making that throw. You're not obviously going to lead them anymore, right? The corner's over the top. So now you have to do a different club selection and potentially back shoulder what you see. A lot of successful deep ball quarterbacks throw. And again, I think it all goes back to your spatial awareness, your ability to understand space and time. And then without really thinking about it, be able to project your arm to throw a certain kind of ball. And so when you see the really good deep ball throwers in this league, it's not just the perfect pregame pat and go where it's 45 yards dropping right off the table like, let me date myself, like Jeff Blake, the Carl Pickens with the Bengals. You just don't see it like that as often anymore. Corners have gotten really good playing it. And so therefore it's made quarterbacks way more of artists instead of robots of how to throw it, right? You got to paint it differently. You got to be able to put something on it differently. You might have to drive it or put more air on it or back shoulder it. But there is an art to it. It's just not a science. You can go out, right? I've got a 12-year-old, 13-year-old, and you can set up bucket out there 40 yards away and he can hit it. But the reality is there's, that's not how it's done, right? You have to factor in for defense. You have to factor in what's around your feet. And also what your eyes are. So, yeah, to answer this question in a long about way, there is an innate ability to throw the ball deep for a quarterback. And it always doesn't mean just because you might let that ball go exactly how you want it to, that doesn't guarantee a completion, right? But I think those guys have a great feel, right? All, I think all great deep ball throwers have a feel. It's not perfectly how it's drawn up on the paper or maybe how you jog through it or how it happens in practice. Because there's an object in front of those guys running. And so therefore, I think it's the understanding of spatial awareness, time, and speed that allow those guys to be really good throwers of the ball that goes down the field. And so it's a harder thing to teach. I'm not saying it's not a learned thing at some point, but I do think guys innately have the ability to understand that. And when you do, right, you don't want to overcoach it. And when guys struggle with it, right, you want to just build up their confidence, but more importantly, you want to get those throws as many times as possible. But again, it's still one of those things where it's definitely a harder to learn trait than most anything at that position when you're trying to push the ball down the field like that. Where does Marcus fall in that sort of innate scale? Yeah, he's got great spatial awareness. You wouldn't, he wouldn't be the runner or some of the plays that he makes where he steps up and sees it right out of the really the peripheral of his vision to make some of those throws. And again, when you watch him make some of those placement throws and they're all completed, no, and I would argue that it's a low percentage throw anyways, right? That's historical data, I'll tell you that. But giving your guy an opportunity and a chance is what you hear a lot of guys talk about, specifically when you've got a bigger receiver, right? It's about, hey, let him give an opportunity, a 50-50 chance. Hopefully that plays in our favor. When we say 50-50, that's a jump ball kind of mentality, knowing that their guy is not looking and our guy obviously is. But I would say for him, just like any decision, right, there's times where he understands the spatial awareness and makes those type of throws and maybe they're on the same page, maybe they're not, but overall, I think he has a good understanding of what is needed in terms of what kind of ball is needed to be thrown. Not perfect nor anybody is, but I do think he has that awareness to understand that. The quarterback reads that this needs to be that back shoulder throw is just at that point, the responsibility becomes the receivers to understand that that's where the ball is going and make that adjustment. Is there I think it's more almost about it's the same page type mentality. Yeah, I think it's just a reaction to the ball. Yeah. And I think one of those things is I've been around when I was a player, specifically receivers who look for the back shoulder. Well, what happens when you look, they look, right? So now the back shoulder becomes a contested. I think the art of the back shoulder throw is more about the receiver understanding that, hey, where is this guy in relation to where this ball needs to be thrown, but not giving it away too soon. But also without seeing it being on the same page of the quarterback that, hey, this is probably the type of ball because the late eyes for the receiver in terms of when he looks ultimately can make or break the completion or not. If his eyes are early, like you just said, right, the DB looks, if his eyes are late, that DB has less reactionary time to make that play. So it is, it is a on the same page in sync body language and everything that you develop over time. I don't think it's just something, hey, the guy comes off the street and you're going to be able to throw it to him no matter what. I do think that's something that's choreographed over a period of time that only comes really with reps. Boy, that was, that might have gone nowhere really fast. Yeah, no doubt. Look, bars low, appreciate it. Absolutely. You're going to write out well this week. I'll show you the sheet if you will. Well, yeah, I mean, you say, obviously, some of that is a name, right? But how much, like, and you kind of hinted at it, how much it can actually be coached? Or is it like, you can, I get to a certain level without it being there. Look, I'm not going to sit up here as you guys know for a little bit. Like I'm no quarterback guru. I'm not, don't have all the answers. But I'll say this, I will use my experience being around, not that I'm the most experienced compared to other guys, obviously more experienced than me. You've been in this league a long time. My experience with certain quarterbacks and then put myself in there. The reality is there are a, you can train it to a certain degree. But then think about this, right? Within less than three seconds on any pass, really, right? You have to understand space, time and awareness in terms of what's around you. And then you have to make that kind of throw. Not every throw is 100 miles an hour on the outside of the black, right? For a pitcher to seem that ball in there. Some, right, got to be a changeup just because you have to shape a ball. And so when it comes to that type of throw, again, I think through experience, there's a part that can be learned. The reality is a lot of it, the majority of it has to be your innate ability to understand that. You can train it. If you have that ability a little bit, but the reality is if you don't have that awareness or spatial awareness, you're not just all of a sudden going to be able to, it's the way I feel about this, right? Like you're an eighth grader and you can dunk. What are the chances you're working on that 15 foot jump shot? Probably not high, right? You're probably going to dunk on everybody you get a chance to, right? Same way I feel about quarterbacks at times that have a cannon for an arm. The reality is they can probably wait a split second longer because their RPMs are just higher than everybody else. So therefore, right, even though they're not anticipating it, the ball comes out with such velocity. They get away with it. So then working on that touch pass or more importantly, the anticipatory anticipate throw where the ball just comes out a little early. Why? When they, their whole life, they've been able to wait. So it's the same thing with this deep ball, right? I think guys who've worked it and worked and working to have an understanding of it, they can do it. Guys who are late to the party, it's a lot harder for them. Third down wasn't that bad. Well, the problem was we had four, third and ones. That's the problem. Anything past third and one, I think they only had one conversion. And we were like 40%, I think, but our problem was they got to third and one and they converted four, third and ones and the percentage is not going to be good. But we've improved a lot in third down last week, a lot. Look at the run defense. When you looked at the run defense from the Carolina game, did you think that's immediately fixable or did you think we've got bigger problems than I would like to have in week 10? No, they're fixable. The other thing is that don't forget they ran how many times? 47. And that little bubble pass went down as a run. That's not a pass. I was a 40 yard basically run because of a lateral. So, you know, they averaged just right around a little over four yards of carry, which is still too much. We don't want that. We want to be in the threes. But there was really maybe two plays, two run plays. One was coming out. And then one other one that I thought we just they were fixable. We just we've made some bad. We didn't play them well enough. But, you know, when you run about 47 times, you know, you're probably going to be some yards. So I didn't I didn't walk out of there thinking, oh, no, we got no chance here. A couple plays that we made, even the bubble play, we just got play it better. I mean, there's no sense in that thing going for 40 yards and we end up knocking each other off down at the end. So but that was what you're talking about last week. We have a two explosive plays. They were explosive. That's a 40 yarder. And I think a little slant that we didn't tackle end up being a 30 some yarder. Those are two explosive plays. They led to 10 points. You're talking about a game. We really gave up 22 points. I'm not really thinking too much about the last field goal. Well, even if you hold the one if you hold them to 15 points or something and and just take away those two explosives in half of it, you're talking about a 280 yard game with 15 points, which we do. But we gave them up. I can't sit here and say, you know, feel great because we gave them up. We just got to quit. We did it against the chargers that was in man coverage. These two were actually in his own coverage. We just got to fix those things. We just can't. We got to fix those things. You know, a real mobile quarterback at least kind of like fields. Maybe maybe since Conatason in week one, maybe, but obviously it's such a different deal. We haven't seen anybody like this guy. Yeah. How do you prep for that? You just got to you got to keep him in. I mean, he's I mean, the guy's got seven hundred and some yards as a quarterback, one on the ball and some of our design runs, some of our zone read runs. But there's a lot of them to third down. He drops back to pass and takes off against 25 or something. I mean, you just get you got to do a good job of crowning. You got to obviously play the run plays that are designed quarterback run plays. You got to play those well. A lot of assignment football this week. We've got to be very detailed in our assignments and we've got to be very detailed in our pass rush too. You just can't just fly up the field. This isn't like Brady or Manning or somebody like that's gonna sit there in the pocket all day and gonna be a statue. He's not he's gone. Take off and the problem with him too is not only when he takes off means 230 pound guy that can run the ball. I mean, probably would be a good running back feels a running back. I mean, he breaks tackles and and he's tough to bring down. I mean, you know, you're not gonna just go up there and just he's gonna hit you. He's run over some people on the goal line and then some stuff. I mean, he's good. He's great athlete, great athlete. So we just got to do a good job of assignment football and keeping him in the pocket in the passing game and being able to play him in the run. Is that cold commit presents? He's been productive here lately. He's just a good tight end. I mean, the guys have been very productive down in the red area. I think he's kind of become little feels kind of main target type deal. You know, again, it kind of like it goes back a little bit of of. OK, so you got you got a quarterback that can run. You got a running back who I think the world of I think I've always admired Montgomery the way he plays the physicalness of him the running back. I know the other guy went on IR, but those two guys together, but Montgomery there's no fall off. I thought he was the best back anyhow. And so you got you got this running attack. And sometimes that running attack and lends to your plan to run and all of a sudden somebody's open eyes a tight end or even a receiver or whatever. That's always a tough, tough deal. You can't, you know, you double somebody. Well, if you double somebody, you're not going to be as good against the run, you know, so it's just they kind of go to me, they go hand in hand. Sometimes the running game sets up fast. Sometimes the passing game sets up the run. In this case, you know, you got to be he can get open because the guys are playing to run so hard linebackers and stuff like that. And then all of a sudden tight ends open. So he's a good he's a tough matchup. Comparison maybe a little bit of heresy around here. But do you see any Michael Beck in the way fields played in the last month? Bigger, you know, he's a bigger, more physical dude and different style. But you would say similar in some ways because of his ability to run. Vic was a different slashy runner to me, you know, when he played he could stop on a dime turn, spin, go the other direction. And where Justin is a little more once he just hits it, he can hit it now. He can, they're probably the same speed. I don't know what, you know, 40 forget 40 times. This guy's just more once he gets the corner. He's a there's a part of his little bit like Kaepernick. And once Kaepernick got the corner, I mean, he looked like a 400 meter Olympic guy. I mean, he could go and fields can go. Vic was such so much more like Baltimore's guy, you know, just that slashy stop turn. This guy doesn't really try to do that. He's going to try to just outrun you and beat you. I'm not saying he can't do it. I just I'm watching most of the film. He's just outrun people. Even though their styles may not be exactly the same, just having athletic quarterbacks that you guys have faced since the summer during practice. Does that help you at all? Because you dealt with, you know, fast guys behind center and Marcus, even back in training camp would take off and run. Just the yeah. And the same thing with Des, you know, Ritter is a pretty athletic guy who at Cincinnati did a lot of stuff. It certainly helps. It's a lot easier than like when we were in New England getting ready to play Michael Vic. And we got Tom over there in Castle as our quarterbacks going, hey, can you run some? Can you kind of scramble here? No. So it certainly helps with going against Marcus and going against Ridd. I mean, those guys have done this. Ridd gives us a great look in practice. Yeah, they I wouldn't compare anybody like that. But but at least they've run a system that they kind of know what the system's like. And they've they've helped us and done a good job on the on the squad practice squad down there. Where does Grady Jarr rank among the interior defensive linemen that you've had? In terms of the volume, you feel comfortable playing him the amount of snacks per game? Would like him sometimes, you know, play a little less than what we do. As he gets older, but he's I mean, he's he's handling it doing well. It's just, you know, you always worry about the length of the season and stuff like that. And but he ranks right up there. I, you know, most of the guys that I've played inside there in his position probably haven't played as many places he has. You know, Holody not. I mean, most of those guys were really big dudes now. Holody not events will fork. I'm talking about interior guys, not like guys on the outside. Jarrell Casey, similar in some ways at Tennessee, kind of similar style guy, two different dudes, but kind of similar. Jarrell played about probably just a little less than Grady and but he's such a valuable guy playing. I know we got to do, we got to monitor it sometimes. But it's sometimes really hard because you want him in there, you know, he's a productive guy and he's a leader. He's he's more than just a productive guy. He's he's our leader. Really, two years you've been here, is there something that when you before you work with him that you kind of say, wow, okay, that's kind of different. That's kind of special. Me and if I was somewhere else looking at Grady, I probably couldn't tell you much about him because I never watched him very much. I mean, I knew who he was. You always know who everybody is. I knew who Aaron Donald is. I mean, but I don't really sit and study Aaron Donald because I'm never watching that side of the ball. Other than I'm watching him when he's when I get film on him playing against somebody that we're gonna play against and I'll look and say, do we have anybody that can do some of the stuff that he does, stuff like that. But I, you know, there's just so much more to Jarrett than just football player. I mean, he's just quality guy the way he practices. I mean, I don't know how I'm sure Aaron Donald practice was hard, but I don't know. I don't know if he's a hardened worker in practice or if he gets days off. I don't know anything about him other than he's a heck of a football player. Grady, I know, I see him every day and I watch him and I watch the way he practices, the way he studies, the way he prepares. That's why I speak so highly of him, you know? Gerald Casey was that same kind of guy. But some of the other guys that I've kind of had in the interior have all been kind of big dudes. Brandon Williams, Bullfork, Halody, those guys didn't take as many snaps because, I mean, they're 340 pounds or more. When you got him, was there something that you said? Oh, well, I didn't make you say it. You saw him, but you didn't know. Right, I didn't know. When you started working with him, was there a person that you're like, oh, wow, this is maybe a little different? Just the way he prepared and the way he came in and the way he showed up and the way, you know, when you become a vet, sometimes those guys aren't always here in all the off season or something like that. It's never been his case. He shows up for everything like he's a rookie. So I was impressed with him from the day, really, the day I met him.