 We're ready to resume if I can invite counsel to please return to their seats Let's get started Only break the cattle prod out if Necessity dictates we're not there yet. Maybe after lunch. We'll see I know I should have brought my my symphony bells We have a Have a traffic jam. We need an HOV lane at the croissant bar high density High traffic density at the pastry table. All right so our next Section that we're getting ready to start is city infrastructure and transportation Also a big topic as I met with many of you in the weeks leading up until today and our first Speaker on this It's gonna be Ben Guarziere CFO and Mike Frisbee. So Then let's take the floor. It's a good morning again What I'm recovering in this part of the presentation is really giving you just a very quick overview of our outstanding debt And then I'll get to our recommendation for the 2017 bond program So just a quick reminder on the types of debt that the city issues you have general obligation bonds and certificates of obligation These are property tax supported debt the geos general obligation bonds are of course the bond elections that we have every five years It's a property tax supported Instrument it's got the full faith and credit taxing power of the city behind it and that's where our triple a bond rating is at It also applies to our certificates of obligation That is also property tax supported debt the only difference between those two instruments are the general obligation bonds are voted The certificates of obligation are non-voted. However, we have statutory notice provisions So we notice the public on what we're going to be utilizing certificates of obligation projects that we're going to be funding with that Tax notes are shorter term debt instruments. They are basically paid for in seven years or less We use those to kind of fill in on smaller projects and then revenue debt is the last category and best example of that is you have a Enterprise system where you're only pledging to the bond holder revenues from that system a great example of that would be the airport In terms of oops, what did I do? In terms of our outstanding debt We have a currently two point seven billion dollars of outstanding debt The first line again is that property tax supported debt at one point five billion dollars We have a great interest rate on that entire portfolio of three point three percent taking advantage of the great financial market conditions Low cost of borrowing that we've got that last column is called average life and this is something the rating agencies looked at it's something we watch It is a measure of how fast you're paying off your debt So if you're issuing for example, 20 year bonds You would expect to see average life around ten years meaning I'm paying just about as much principal in the first ten years as I am in the last ten years And the reason they watch that is they're looking to see are you deferring principal into into the future and not really meeting your Obligations you can see ours is at a great position. We're at eight point eight years well under the ten-year threshold The other self-supporting debt is listed there. I won't go through those everything from airport to convention center in Terms of property tax support legal debt limits under the charter our property tax supported debt Cannot exceed 10% of our total assessed valuation debt gives us a debt ceiling of two point five billion dollars You just saw on the previous slide that our property tax support is at one point five billion dollars So we are nowhere near the legal limit in terms of how much property tax supported that we could issue In addition to that state law and specifically the attorney general's office says that we can't levy a tax rate Greater than a dollar fifty cents per one hundred dollars evaluation to support our property tax supported debt We're currently at 21 cents. So obviously we're nowhere near that limit either. So in terms of the legal limits We have no issue there at all. We're not even close to the legal limits. Our constraint is really more our financial capacity What's the amount of debt that we can reasonably carry as an organization? This is just a quick graphic coming from the comptroller's tell the truth Texas website as of August 31st of 2014 It compares property tax supported debt among the top 10 cities in Texas You can see that on a debt per capita basis We are eighth out of 10th in terms of the lowest debt per capita at a thousand forty dollars Real quick again on the bond ratings the scale you see to the right on the right table again gives you the different categories The highest rating you can get is the triple a rating then you fall into Additional investment grade ratings There are usually there are three tiers in each of those everything from double a to single a to triple b All of these are considered investment grade Our general obligation debt is again triple a our self-supporting debt because you're pledging different revenue streams from the bondholders Ranges from double a plus all the way down to like a triple b plus where we're doing a Conrack financing out at the airport Or the bondholders only recourse is the cfc rate that supports that project So you have a different credit analysis that the rating agencies go through On the geo bond rating again We are the only city with a population of more than a million to have a trip a triple a geo bond rating at all We had a little bit of conversation during the last session about what's the impact if we were to if that rating were to decrease We gave you just some examples here based on a billion dollars of debt What that impact would be about 13 million dollars if you fell one level 26 million at two levels and about 45 million at three levels The thing I'll say about the bond rating is that in addition to what I mentioned earlier is They've obviously become much more stringent in the criteria the rating agencies in terms of how they evaluate organizations and what we have built is a a Credit profile that fits this organization well Cheryl mentioned that when you look at their criteria for large cities What they really expect if you look at their criteria is a 35 percent balance in the general fund ours is at 15 to 16 percent When you look at all the elements that we've put together That's where we get to the triple a we've built a credit profile That's unique to us that fits for us and works well for us as an organization The other part I'll say is that when you look at financial management practices outside of the bond rating You know these are things we would be wreck I would be recommending to you anyway I mean these are the kinds of policies and practices that put us in a best position as an organization To adapt to economic conditions when they change We know that we can give you forecast and the one thing we know about forecast is we're not gonna hit that forecast We're looking at five years. It's difficult to project when you're gonna have a recession when you're gonna have a slowdown when you're gonna have a Significant growth period and what we try to do with the financial policies and practices is position the organization to be able to adapt to that to that change This next slide just shows you our other bond ratings in addition to the to the triple a for the property tax supported debt You see the other ratings listed there for the other Enterprise funds and the convention center. I won't go through those in detail and then moving back into Property tax supported debt and moving towards the 2017 bond program We went back in and looked at the debt plan as we do every year. Sometimes we look at it multiple times a year Looking at our Sumsons looking at what we think the next four or five years looks like and in that case We're actually running a model that goes out about 20 or 30 years And we're looking at things like the taxable assess valuation growth And what we're projecting for 17 is a 7.5 percent and then you see it ratcheting down to four and a half percent and then three percent Excuse me one of the other major considerations here is we make no assumption about the debt service tax rate changing You see the 21 cents per $100 valuation listed there Our assumption going forward is that we're not going to increase that rate or lower the rate that we're going to manage To the 21 cents. We've been at this debt service tax rate since I believe fiscal year 2004 so we've been managing our capacity within this is an additional constraint We also looked at interest rate projections trying to look at where the financial markets are in terms of what we think the cost of borrowing Will look like over time. We factored all of that in To the debt plan as well as we have a fund balance that we're using to help us manage some of the ups and downs When when taxable values increase or decrease that fund balance helps us manage that as well having done all of that and Looking at different sensitivity. This is what we consider the what I would call the base model We also ran scenarios that looks at what have growth is slower than we think What does that how do we handle the debt loads? We ran some different sensitivities and where we ended up with was a recommendation for the 2017 bond program at $850 million You'll recall last year during the budget process. We briefed you at 750 So we've increased it another hundred million dollars to a recommendation of eight hundred and fifty million dollars We also plan within our debt plan to have bond elections every five years So that continuous investment in our infrastructure and in the community So you see a 2022 bond election at 750 and a 2027 at 650 This next slide just gives you the historical perspective going back to 1994. You can see that in 94 Three 2003 our bond programs were much smaller starting in 2007 At that time largest in the city's history at 550 million 2012 596 and now we're talking about 250 million dollars more than the last bond program for seven for 2017 at eight hundred and fifty million dollars What you see stacked on top of them are certificates of obligation that we have issued Tax notes that we have issued for various projects and then some of it is self-supporting debt And I do want to highlight that because we're not actually using property tax supported debt to pay for that debt it is It is secured with property taxes, but we're using some other revenue source to pay for it And really what we're doing there is we're leveraging our triple a bond rating We're getting the lowest cost of borrowing that we can and then we use that other revenue stream to actually pay for the Debt and that's what that very top bar for example in 2007 hundred fifteen point four million dollars that was all self-supporting no property tax revenue was used for that for 2017 over that five-year period The bars that are stacked on top of the 850 are all in the capital budget and there are Projects like the public safety radio system is in there Our service centers are in there some of that is self-supporting coming from solid waste and stormwater and some of that is coming Out-of-property taxes, so that's what that is And then you see the 750 and the 650 tailing off in 2022 and 20 27 So as we update this in the future as we do refinancing as we as we look at as we look at how the plan Performs we'll work on building that capacity out in the future as well as we can continue to look at Certificate of obligation capacity on an annual basis as we have done with you Historically over the past several budget sessions we get into the summer We go through this full update and then we make an assessment about what additional capacity we could do The tailing off on the geobahn program more comfortable with because again, it's very difficult to plan Something that is somewhat complicated in the structure and push it out that far into the future The updates on an annual basis. I think we'll take care of of that so with that That concludes my part of the presentation and let me turn it over to Mike Frisbee Who's going to get into more about the planning process for the 2017 bond? Good morning. Thank you, Ben appreciate that. Well, that's exciting 850 million. I'm excited Hopefully you're excited as well for the for the next bond program being recommended. I'm going to touch on four subjects In about ten slides. So a couple billion dollars worth of infrastructure the 17 bond streets and sidewalks school zone safety update city-wide and We're also going to talk about the ADA relative to streets and and city facilities at American Disabilities Act So as we start here, I Still have the 750 million dollar planning number here. This is the 850 is a new number. So With your direction, we'll work towards that but that that's good We have of course a lot of coordination throughout the past year on looking at the universe of projects looking at going through the process of essay tomorrow and Looking at the categories of the bond So right now we're looking at categories that would include one category is streets bridges and sidewalks In the 2012 bond that was a category on its own and then drainage and then parks Facilities and community initiatives as a as a category and then the potential category of housing as well Status on the 2012 bond. We're in good shape You know the 07 bond was completed within the five-year period substantially complete We're getting better at this. So the 2012 bond is in is even better shape a year out from the end of the five-year program We're over 90 percent complete or under construction Well in hand to be substantially complete by the end of the five-year period on the $596 million bond program And we will continue to improve it's a continuous improvement effort. So we'll do better even in this next bond program The here's the update on the calendar here So we're going to continue to really look at these projects. We have about 500 projects that are in consideration for the bond You know with it with an $850 million number. We're still trying to probably get it down There's a lot of big projects that are want to be considered So we're probably still looking at trying to get it to 150 projects 170 projects something like that So we'll continue that process. We've had an interactive process with you all and and so that's been good as well The we would expect that the mayor is going to be asking you for your committee appointees To be turned in by the end of July so that the committees can be formed again These are policy Decisions by you all but that would be if we stay with the model that we used for the 2012 bond We would end up with a citizens committee per per area of the bond streets drainage and so forth And in the 2012 bond there was three appointees per district per committee So you can expect to have that out there so that you can get those names in to the mayor In a timely manner so we can keep this this process moving. We're going to continue to work on the projects and Ultimately have some staff recommendations that we go over with city management and you all Head of the public process that would start in October and finish it up in early December and then Then the citizen committees make their recommendations to the council council would you all would consider that in the January time frame Make the final approvals and a call for the vote. So That's that's the process in the 2012 bond this to show you how important that citizen process is and those committees are The city council approved 97 percent of what those committees sent forward for the 2012 bond 97 percent So a very important public process ahead of us couple of things Relative to guiding principles for the 17 bond Essay tomorrow really is the new lens that we're looking through to really develop the 17 bond We've heard that a lot from you all over the past year about the importance of essay tomorrow the comp plan the multimodal plan the Sustainability plans how they need to feed and really Enlighten the 17 bond so we're doing that You can see here investment in major corridors complete streets As we're doing a number of those in the 12 bond, but we're going to continue the complete streets Increasing connectivity as well connectivity between the street network and linear Creekway systems looking at multi modes of transportation How do we make not only quality of life better throughout the city, but mobility safety and so forth environmental sustainability whether it be Facilities that were that we're designing and building parks streets drainage facilities Leveraging funds is always big. We all know there's limited funding So the more we can leverage with other public agencies school districts private developers and so forth The we can do much more out there and we've got a history of leveraging significant dollars through these bond programs Along with federal and state dollars Supporting vision zero obviously critically important to public safety vision zero is all about getting down to zero traffic-related fatalities and see and serious injuries Long ways to go a lot of safety improvements are needed throughout this great city Project continuation examples of that would be like a ceiling channel. We've invested big dollars in ceiling channel We're seeing the benefits of that when the big storms come the water is staying within the channel And but there's a there's a continued phase that needs to be part of the bond The Broadway corridors another great example of a continuation. There's design processes going on now We did Broadway Hildebrandt in the 07 bond. So there's a continued emphasis there Commerce Street downtown a continuation project. So that's important operations and maintenance We always need to be looking at that Whether it be facilities parks even streets and drainage. What is it going to take to maintain? These facilities after they're built. That's an impact on the general fund often and operating budgets Rough proportionality and this concept has been in place for the last couple bond programs and It would be recommended again And so the concept is you know, there are needs all over the city and so we look at total investment of the city So you have bond program. You have the infrastructure management program You have parks maintenance as well So if you look at total investment that should be relatively equal throughout the city some areas of the city There's a greater need for drainage projects other places. There's a greater need for streets Maybe parks so forth. So it all would balance out a Couple of key Areas that are triggers for essay tomorrow that will that we're looking at with essay tomorrow with the multimodal plan and The comp plan especially how does it how does it trigger projects into the 17 bond? We'll be looking at current bus ridership on corridors and how does that relate to improved? Accessibility of the corridor so that people can get to those bus stops Health is a big factor in essay tomorrow. So Health and income in the surrounding communities where projects are being considered Also, the growth centers the 13 growth centers that are identified in the growth plans What are the infrastructure needs in those growth centers and also to connect one growth center to another and Then connectivity again between systems so connectivity between streets and the linear Creekway system trail systems Connectivity between parks and and how people get around facilities and so forth So that's all very important a couple of key things that I know we want to talk about I know some of the feedback that that Francisco got in the 101 discussions had to do with Sidewalks and we want to go want to go big and with sidewalks In the next bond program Obviously the needs are great there. So that's something that can can be looked at sidewalks A lot of sidewalks get reworked when we reconstruct a street, you know, there may be existing sidewalks Maybe not but when we reconstruct there'll be new ones built a lot of times. That's more of a hiking bike or wider sidewalk But that doesn't necessarily drip address the gaps. So a consideration would be Potentially throughout the city having a chunk of dollars like in the 2012 bond and district one There was a category district one sidewalks six million dollars. Okay, just to take care of some of the sidewalk gaps So that could be done more comprehensively throughout the city There's also feedback on let's underground utilities Everybody wants to underground utilities for the aesthetics. We recognize that would be great to do everywhere But it is very expensive It's anywhere from 800 to a thousand dollars a lineal foot a foot. Okay to underground the utilities That's five million dollars a mile now when we do when we take on a major street reconstruction project It's about ten million a mile So five million a mile we would add to that to underground the utilities So that's a big factor. So what's important from my perspective is that we we need to do that in certain areas Take World Heritage, for example, you got view corridors You got areas throughout the city where the aesthetics are critical and we want to do it So we should build that in to those projects other areas Maybe in a neighborhood setting where every street has overhead power right every street So if we're doing one street, we probably would not invest big money in underground in just one street It would may not make sense. So maybe not a policy that that goes city-wide, but more selective locations selective projects Just so you know CPS owns about 80% of the power poles that are out there and AT&T owns the other 20% So those would be the but there are typically about a half a dozen Companies involved in undergrounding utilities because you do have time Warner and others that are on those poles as well So in your binder, I think it's in the back sleeve There's a ballot for you because we want to hear your priorities for the bond program So if you look in the back and just by the end of the day if you could turn this into Francisco, that'd be great Just rank, you know one through five those categories from your perspective budget quality scope schedule and technology Okay Okay, let's talk a little bit about our street network. This is a familiar slide. We had an update this spring on our infrastructure everything we do is data-driven throughout the city and That's the way it is with streets and sidewalks as well. So we know the condition of every street in the city And roughly you could say about 60% of our streets are in relatively good condition That would be a's and B's just like in school a's and B's are good, right? C's D's and F's not good So about 60% good about 40% bad So our poor condition You say that well, that's not too bad, but that 40% is 1700 miles So that will get you from here to Boston on the bad streets So we have a lot of work to do and that's going to be a combination of of the bond program The annual IMP program for streets But we do have it if it would take the number that you've seen before the 1.4 billion dollars To get all of our streets into good condition Or excellent condition So it's really a combination of well, it's seven seventy four million per year Is what it would take on an annual basis to continue the uptick on the system to make it better and better over time? 74 million per year and so how we would get that is a combination of the Infrastructure management program and the bond programs as well We are on track in FY 16 to complete the IMP projects. There's about 1200 projects. We're in good shape there The forecast that we're looking at at this point is 50 million for street maintenance and then the 5 million for sidewalks Combining those two areas of streets and sidewalks the if we look at the reconstruction needs so We we can't we try to catch as many streets as possible At a point where we can do you know crack ceiling and mill and overlay treatments to preserve the pavement before it requires that Reconstruction because once it goes to reconstruction talking about a lot more dollars involved, but in the condition today There are 444 centerline miles of streets that need the reconstruction step So as we look at the bond program that that gets factored in As part of that program and then sidewalks as you all know we have over 2100 miles of sidewalk gaps out there and Every district that's configured a little bit differently some districts. That's very much Clumped together and it may be a big subdivision that was built in a decade that they didn't do sidewalks Right, but there's other districts like district 5 where you have gaps everywhere throughout the district It's dispersed all throughout the district. So it varies throughout the city as to what that need is Okay, so this chart on the left hand side is the centerline miles per district Just so you can gauge we have that your centerline miles in your district of streets And then the yellow on the right is the number of miles that need reconstruction and this was part of a presentation this spring at a B session so It's not necessarily a congratulations district to councilman work, but the 95 miles of Needed reconstruction, but you do have a large amount of mileage as well So all of this shows that throughout the throughout the entire city There's a lot of need in every district Some of the smaller districts they have less Mileage, but they still have a tremendous need for reconstruction and then this charts shows the gaps in the sidewalks From district 3 all the way through and this is Basically, you know from about 15% of the network the entire city network in district 3 Down to 5% and 6 but again Sidewalk gaps all over the city in need of being filled So we do prioritize those as you fund we prioritize them around schools Around bus stops around public spaces parks and so forth to make sure we're taking care of those priority locations Okay, school zone safety. This is a FY 15 through FY 19 five-year program Projected at 1 million proposed at 1 million per year. So we're finishing up FY 16 here. So the plan was 20% Upgrades throughout the city each year to get to that hundred percent in five years. We're already at 40% So we're we're about six months ahead of that So we anticipate this will probably be a four-year program instead of a five-year program, which is great But as you we're getting those improvements all throughout the city So you're seeing those school zone flashers going in you're seeing the the new signage Go up. That's more of a fluorescent fluorescent yellow green color very much Much brighter during the day and night and the and the fresh markings on the street and so forth so very much a part of our vision zero effort and Important that we plan to continue and we will propose that again for FY 17 Okay, let's talk about accessibility Two areas here as I wrap up my slides First of all streets So we have a lot of needs throughout the city for ADA accessible ramps at corners Assessment citywide assessment was done in 2011. So the the need is known. It's all based GIS based So we know where the need is we're putting in over 500 new ramps per year So we're really chipping away at it throughout the city and again That's that's very much focused on how can we help bus service? how we're making sure we've got the ramps around the public spaces and and also schools as well and then on the facility side Multiple departments working I know recently in May the neighborhood and livability subcommittee met and discussed this subject and You know I want to differentiate. There's there's the minimum requirement set out for by the Americans Disabilities Act and the Texas accessibility standards But that's a minimum. So you don't necessarily just want to stick with the minimum We're making sure that the minimum is met, but we want to go beyond that and look at equal accessibility Universal design standards and Councilman Trevino. I know you've been very much a part of this discussion In that what we want to look at and working with building equipment services and TCI is take it taking a look at those very public buildings and that the city owns and Really focusing on from the right-of-way whether somebody's using the bus system whether they're driving walking In a wheelchair, whatever the case may be going from from curb Through the front door. What's that experience? And is it the same for everybody equal access to the facilities? Again, that's above and beyond The law but it's very it's a very good thing to do So we plan to go through that assessment working with the different departments that are housed in those facilities and Take about the top 60 of those facilities and do that assessment What is that experience from the curb through the door? And is it the same for whether you are able-bodied or you're in a wheelchair? What is it the same experience? Okay, that wraps up my presentation. I'll turn it over to Peter. Alrighty. Good morning As you may know, I have three boys and so when Cheryl asked me to talk about buses and trains I thought that would be pretty easy to do today. So that's what I'm going to talk to you about here real quickly We're going to talk to you about the advanced transportation district and via and then shipped and talked to you about the Lone Star rail district And so this presentation on ATD it is linked to via there is some council discussion about providing more dollars to via Through our advanced transportation district funding the advanced transportation district was approved by boaters in 2004 It's one quarter cent of dedicated sales tax that Leverages about so that collects about 64 million annually You can see in the on the circle graph via receives half of that so about one eighth cent or 32 million this year The city gets a sixteenth of a percent of a percent or sent for 16 million And then that last sixteenth of a percent goes to Texot and in Bear County for road projects and so at issue is as via sales tax Levy or their amount of revenue that they collect it's much less than their counterparts throughout the state of Texas by voter choice back in the 70s and so Austin as you can see has a full cent Dallas a full cent in Houston as well when you combine via as dedicated sales tax plus the amount of money they receive from the ATD They're at five eighths of a cent and Jeff aren't the CEO for via is suggesting that they need it as much as a full half Sent more to be comparable with these other cities in Texas. So about another hundred and forty million annually is what they would need As we know Constance Saldana has had it has placed a lot of emphasis on this recently mayor Taylor Convened an ad hoc committee to study the issues. It's co-chaired by Constance Saldana and Constance and Lopez The six private individuals on there including Alex Bersinio Vic Boyer Patty Radle James liftshoots Daryl bird and Sid Martinez We have had five meetings to date where we studied several of the issues to including be as funding and their model of how they provide service We showed the committee our ATD funding and how we use it We also studied other funding opportunities of how via not using our ATD But using other resources could leverage additional dollars to include Legislative action or state and federal grants At issue for people in the city like Mike Frisbee and myself is our ATD funds today I used to support some basic infrastructure in the city of San Antonio And so the 16 million dollars that we use that we collect is used really for four primary things sidewalks our traffic signal management system Intersection improvements and then pedestrian safety improvements the chart shows you some of the detail There's a total low of 24 positions that support either directly or indirectly these services and projects as you can see here So at issue when we've gone through the committee meetings is transferring any dollars would mean either we have to reduce these services Or reduce services other where otherwise in other places in the general fund so that we can maintain these with the general fund dollars The current status of the ATD is at the ad hoc committee on their June 1st meeting did request one additional meeting To try to reach consensus on some of the options that they have been looking at The committee will meet one more time in June that potentially June 16th And at the mayor's direction the committee will forward their findings to the transportation technology and utilities council committee So the committee can further elaborate or discuss their findings One of the option that has been studied and has been covered in the paper is of the 16 million dollars that we collect annually Possibly transferring 10 million of that to be a over a phased amount of time or over several years. I should say The staff recommendation is that the city staff does not Does not recommend Allocating any of our ATT ATD money to via we have presented to the committee and we recommend today that Via with the city look at other funding mechanisms potentially through state legislative action to include looking at an additional vehicle registration tax and That would direct some dedicated dollars to via and we also did say in our committee meetings that if the council does want it does Approves transferring some of the ATD dollars that it be done over a multiple year phased an approach We're going to transition now to trains To our Lone Star rail district And as we know just a quick recap the Lone Star rail district has been around for some time their mission is to provide rail service From San Antonio and Austin or in between those two major cities It's kind of viewed as to commuter rail systems with Sarah Marcos being the center point of the two And so San Marcos to San Antonio and and San Marcos north Austin is is is the vision for this train system now we know and from recent headlines in the paper that the UP Union Union Pacific's agreement that they have had over the several years with the Lone Star rail district was terminated Nonetheless the Lone Star rail district that is governed by a 20-plus member board including two of our council members Has recently voted to continue the work the Lone Star rail district is doing They are about halfway through an environmental impact study that is looking at six routes to include the one that UP has And they're about midway through you can see in the green box that this study will not be done until late 2018 what they discussed at the board meeting is that if they cancelled or stop the environmental impact study now They would have to pay back the federal government the money that they have used to this date And I think it's somewhere between four and six million dollars And so the board unanimously recommended to keep going on the environmental impact study and looking at these alternate routes That they have been looking at Now just relating this to the budget process last year at this time Lone Star rail district Present presented the city with a request for a 36 year funding agreement That we studied and we presented the city council in a B session You can see in the graph that it would escalate payments from the city over time So year one would have been five hundred thousand dollars from the general fund or from general fund tax revenue through a tax increment zone It would increase to three point six million dollars by year five It would get to nine point three million dollars by year 15 So it's gradually increasing year over year and by the 36th year would be just under 16 million dollars The district requested funding from Bear County via and Alamo colleges as well in the end I think due to some time constraints from the Lone Star rail district this the Ultimate request was just dollars for planning not a 36 year funding agreement the council did approve five hundred thousand dollars for planning However, it was continued it on via. I'm sorry. It was continued on Bear County And in be a also contributing five hundred thousand dollars Subsequently Bear County withheld their five hundred thousand dollars. So our agreement with Lone Star rail district was technically voided at that point We did use though fifty thousand of the five hundred thousand dollars for the annual membership dues and we have available today In reserve that four hundred fifty thousand the current status for the budget is recently Lone's Lone Star rail district staff presented a request to our staff the team that's led by me to To the request of five hundred thousand dollars again in 2017 the five hundred thousand dollars would be used though in this case to leverage Six million dollars from our MPO. There's a twenty million dollar dedicated reserve for the Lone Star rail there But we do need a twenty percent match And so they asked for the city to contribute five hundred thousand dollars as well as dollars from be a and Bear County as well Five hundred thousand or greater This issue was discussed this past Tuesday at our MPO The budget impact then of this request is that first of all we have in the base budget fifty thousand dollars for their annual membership dues We've been paying for some time But we would have to consider an additional fifty thousand dollars Beyond the four hundred fifty thousand that we have currently reserved To get to that five hundred thousand dollar level Because of this leveraged a match because the area could see a Lone Star rail could see as much as six million from that MPO Staff is recommending that we we set aside an additional fifty thousand so that it can be added to that four hundred fifty for a total of Five hundred thousand that could be pledged for the local match Leveraging that six million dollars That concludes my presentation All right on this next section, I'm gonna go through street lights I'm gonna do it real quick try to make up some time here and because you've seen some of this before so I'm gonna go through it pretty quick Just on street lights current spend again our budgets fourteen point eight million dollars We have about seventy two thousand five hundred street lights all over the city And you can see the breakdown there in terms of the categories in Terms of how we have an analyzed Implementing new technology for street lights what we have looked at is working within our existing spend So when LED technology really became more prevalent in 2012 in terms of street lights we looked at could we implement LEDs They use less energy take the savings from that Less energy cost and use that to pay for the lights and basically wouldn't cost us any more And we were able to do that in several cases and we've got a couple of recommendations for you going forward The big thing with LED is they reduce they use less energy They have less maintenance and operations costs and they tend to last a longer than your high-pressure sodium lights Couple of pictures you've seen before this is South Alamo just here on the edge of the convention center On the left side you have the LED light more the white light high-pressure sodium would be more of the orange light This is steel Malone one of our major thoroughfares again LED and high-pressure sodium Projects that were approved in 2012 We were able to work within the existing spend and get all of the Lights on our major thoroughfares streets like the alone commerce Blanco Actually done within our existing spend that project was done in October 2014. We also got approval from the council in 2012 to do the downtown lights about 1500 and we were part way through that project and expect to be done in October of 2016 We viewed the projects as a win-win because essentially we're reducing our energy footprint the energy savings here is about 5.1 megawatts That's enough energy for about almost 1600 homes per year and then of course we're not adding any budget dollars in order to accomplish the project Very quickly on the downtown just to get an idea of the downtown footprint We say downtown it is bounded by Cesar Chavez on the south IH 10 IH 35 and I 37 We're talking about 1500 street lights. We are replacing some of the poles in the downtown area just because of their condition 477 retrofits have been done today meaning we've converted from high-pressure sodium to LED already most of that in the outer areas Within this within this defined downtown area Within district 5 there are additional funds that have been assigned in the last two budget cycles to add lighting not to Not to convert but to actually add additional street lighting We work with CPS energy and with councilman Gonzalez's office in terms of trying to identify how we would deploy that within district 5 CPS came up with a number of different options that allowed us to make that determination whether it was going underground or adding lights to existing poles Distribution poles that are already there So we had kind of a menu of pricing that we work with councilman Gonzalez's office to Define how to phase that in and d5 and to date About 322 lights have been done 64 of those are conversion from high-pressure sodium to LED 258 new lights are already up. We expect this to be Complete in October of this year the additional projects we talked about were that Our residential street lights that are mostly hundred watt that we can now based on where the technology is and the pricing is We can now do those within our existing spend meaning we can convert those from high-pressure sodium We're not adding lights here. We're just converting what's there from high-pressure sodium to LED The energy savings about 2.6 megawatts or enough power for about 806 homes per year If we move forward with this we believe we can get this done by the spring of 2018 And then the last one that's pending here is that I was in the I believe was in the last budget cycle We added thirty thousand dollars per district for additional lighting as well And we'll coordinate with you all in terms of how you want to deploy that additional lighting within your districts in Terms of technology. We continue to look at This space in terms of how it evolves everything from real-time outage monitoring to dimming capabilities to how you monitor consumption So we'll continue to evaluate that Based on our analysis today these options wouldn't fit within our existing spend It would be quite a bit outside of our existing spend to do this With CPS and then lastly I'll mention as many of you have probably heard There is a kind of an informal unsolicited proposal that was given to us into CPS We continue to vet that we continue to talk to that company One of the challenges is we haven't really been able to get the information that we need to do our analysis because they consider that proprietary so that is one of the challenges we have been looking at it and Based on what we see in costs and what we were able to define from their proposal I would tell you today that I believe they are substantially outside of our spend today Meaning that if you took our budget today and they tried to implement what they were talking about doing in the proposal as I understand it They are well outside of our current budget So we'll continue to talk with them to see if there are opportunities there for us going forward But as of today based on the information we have I don't I don't believe it's close So with that that concludes my presentation, and I think that's the end of this section great So there was a lot of information in that last segment And I want to make sure that we have plenty of time for you to engage in discussion So as we move into our conversation now, we're gonna we're gonna do Q&A and discussion together So let's dance Whoever's got an opening thought that they'd like to share surely Thank you School so many questions, but I'll try to keep it high-level so Mike can you talk a little bit about you know Apologize as a proper as a process reminder or our three-minute rule is in effect So okay, so I can only ask I can only stay on the topic or maybe I make my three-minute and then I have to come back Yeah, okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I'll be fast and Mike we have here. We talk about sidewalk gaps In particular, and I know we're talking about a big sidewalk project for the bond, but where do broken sidewalks fit in or Not functional sidewalks due to poles I'm sorry. What was the last part not to pull utility holes that are in the right in the sidewalk that make them not not functional Right because you've estimated here how much the need is but that does not include broken sidewalks That's my understanding. That's correct. In fact, I failed to mention that the number that we've used before There was 1.1 billion for sidewalk needs and about a hundred million of that was was for the repair of Sidewalks. So yeah, there is a lot of need for repairs So that that can so by ordinance It's a requirement of the property owner to maintain their sidewalk, right? But we know that's often difficult to do so what we proposed in the last budget process and we have implemented Yeah, this spring is an initial cost-sharing proposal To issue out and if it's on our website and so forth that and we've had some takers now that are interested in that program So we would do 50-50 match and we designated initially Let's do 250,000 and let's see what the interest level is and then we could build on that to come So that that's one avenue But obviously when we do sidewalk improvements in the bond we can we can go into areas that have Delapidated sidewalks and we can reconstruct those because we'll have a 30-year life on those new sidewalks And and so we can do that as part of the bond program as well Okay, so I would like to see some sort of you know line item for that as well because it's such an issue there and in Our older communities Another question I had is even regarding so for example You've given a cost for the sidewalks and we had this issue where we were given a quote for a sidewalk But in actuality You know it wasn't two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It was nine million So how was that factored in when we're you know, you're saying we have this much need We're gonna allocate this much for sidewalks. Well, that wasn't a very realistic Picture of what the maintenance was for so how does that factor in when we're trying to budget for big projects or bond projects? Sure so Of course every every area is a little different as to what do you need to do to get sidewalks there? So the example you were discussing the initial thought was this is a subdivision that was developed Ruraly and so basically the street has no curbs or sidewalks and so the the runoff from the street when it rains Goes into the yards and that's the way it was designed. So there was interest from the community Let's get sidewalks and so our initial look at that was okay Let's if we put in curbs and so forth now. We're collecting the water. We need a storm drain system We're really starting to get into expense. So let's simply look at ribbon or strip sidewalks some type of a Maybe a barrier or maybe striping to separate the sidewalk from the pavement Interrupting my care because I don't want to take up too much time. So but my question is not How can that particular example what I'm saying is? When we're talking about a budget Are we taking and you're saying, you know, we're gonna allocate this much for sidewalks Is that really a realistic picture of what the need is so it's sort of the disconnect of you know What's being presented which what is actually there and so how to then do we? You know have a realistic balance because in this scenario that sidewalk wasn't going to help that community They needed a whole infrastructure and then we're going to say oh well We we're only going to dedicate nine million dollar or you know, however many million dollars that we have to sidewalks But that's not an accurate picture. That's it. That's a separate You know, they're they're sidewalk then there's drainage then there's You know additional street maintenance and so we've only allocated I Don't know 50 million to sidewalks or something like that So that's part of the prioritization process that we do with you all as we look at the allocation That's provided by city council and then where do we want to apply that in the community around schools and so forth if there's a Project that's significantly more expensive. We may have to to shift and say let's do this one first It's still not exactly my concern. It's not even a prioritization. It's that it's not an accurate picture Of what the need is and then we're not actually given that information when we're saying how much work is budgeted and how much We should then take on as debt. So, you know, I mean, it's it's I don't want to get specific about my particular example It's just a question that I've had overall That we're really not given a complete picture of the deferred maintenance or the need or the The fact that we have really old communities that at one time for example in the scenario We were saying well that used to be farmland. It was never really supposed to be a neighborhood Well now it's a neighborhood and when we're factoring in all the need there We're just saying sidewalk is going to be this much street is going to be X amount and that's not it So I just add I think what Mike is trying to say is one size doesn't fit all so in some areas the 250,000 alternative might work In this case when it was presented to the neighborhood, they said no we want the full nine million Alternative and and then it becomes a choice for you to work with the community with us to decide What is it that we want to do and how much resource do we want to devote to that? But in other areas it may work to do the less expensive alternative so what Mike is trying to estimate is the need based on an Average cost or an estimate as to not not plan for the worst-case scenario or the most expensive case scenario so To say that we would plan on curbs gutter straight drainage on a local street We probably wouldn't recommend spending nine million on two blocks since in that case. I'm familiar you and I talked about it It's two blocks of a local street, but you might choose to do that on a Facility that's more highly used you know more residents live on and what they do so it then it becomes a conversation with you with the community And with the staff to decide what's the best case? Alternative the needs will always outpace the dollars available But working together then we can decide where are the priorities? And we've heard from you that you'd like to see us recommend in the bond program a substantial sidewalk program something Approaching perhaps even 100 million and we're looking for direction from you today as to do we want to Have that be a major component of the upcoming bond program And if so, we'll start making plans for that and working with you as to then where do we target those dollars within your districts? Chris and then Mike Chris There we go, and I just wanted to thank councilman Gonzalez for her her points on that. They're very important Mike I had a question on the sidewalk Issue and then I'm also looking back and to speak up SA data and just pointing out that my guiding light on this is that The residents have said that streets and public safety are their top priorities. So I think that that should give us You know the direction that we need and again emphasize how important your department the work that you do and how important it is for us to get it right in terms of Making the right decisions on the priorities that we need in our community. So with the sidewalks, does that include Sidewalks that are not ADA compliant. I know that this has come up in years past as well Does that figure have those sidewalks as well because I know we have existing sidewalks. However, they're not they're not up to code and We can't have I don't I don't think that would qualify that sidewalk being compliant if If it's not ADA compliant and if we do do we need to include that in the inventory of more sidewalks that we need and if that And if we do How much more is that going to be? Good questions councilman. So the way we handle ADA compliance with with streets and sidewalks Anytime we're doing even an overlay of asphalt treatment If there's a if there's a corner that doesn't have a curb ramp or there's a curb ramp That's not compliant that gets taken care of with the street project same thing with anytime. We're doing a sidewalk project of any kind Where we're taking care of those and then completely separate from that in our Street maintenance program part of the IMP. We are taking care of those roughly those 500 Ramps per year throughout the city. So it's kind of a three pronged approach whether it's just we know There's a there's a non-compliant ramp or no ramp at these locations We're going to go just take care of those or it's with the sidewalk project or it's with the street project Okay, thank you And I know that we've also talked about it in numerous discussions about Prioritizing those sidewalks in and around our schools in and around our activity centers I know we had a good discussion yesterday and comp plans about that as well Cheryl if you could kind of elaborate a little bit more you were mentioning about us Maybe taking a different approach or looking at a even bigger Investment in sidewalks, where would the money come from would we add it to the? Bond I know the number increased a hundred million. I'm not mistaken from what we originally had had looked at discussed So would we just add more of the bond? Total or is it the hundred million already kind of factoring that in that maybe we are going to be looking at an ask or a proposal that would Make sidewalks more of a priority in this in this bond program So the dedication of funding for sidewalks would come from the 850 million and What we're looking for today is policy direction from you all if you'd like to see that in our recommendations I know the mayor several of you have said let's include a Larger dedication of the program to sidewalk construction. It's something that we hear from the community It's consistent with what's coming out of our essay tomorrow recommendations on making our community more pedestrian friendly so 80% of our bond programs in 07 and 12 were devoted to basic infrastructure streets sidewalks and drainage sidewalks as Mike said have been constructed as part of our street projects if we want to devote Segment of the program specifically to sidewalks where we may be doing sidewalk construction in each of the districts unrelated to street Reconstruction that's the kind of direction. We're looking for today and it would come out of the 850 million It'd be in that category of streets and sidewalks But we could dedicate a segment of those dollars specifically to sidewalks if that's the desire of of the council Thank You Cheryl certainly from my perspective. I think it's something that I would like to see Based on all the requests that I get from my constituents and The need for more pedestrian mobility pedestrian safety It's it's very much warranted much needed out in the community So I'm glad to hear that we're going to hopefully have more discussion. I'd like to hear from my colleagues as well about it Mike Thank you very much and Thank you Chris for bringing this up because I think without question and all the feedback We're getting is infrastructure is where it's at and we do need to dedicate as much as we can to it I am concerned. However, though streets and drainage Biggest biggest problem there. I mean after these last rains. We've heard from all of our constituents So we've got to be careful that we don't start taking all the money from one area and Taking it out of another and we've got to watch that as we go forward I'd like to take a just a little bit bigger look as far as the procedures for the 2017 bond goes in one of them I'm not sure who might be able to answer this question I think some of us have been hit up with some major bond projects And I'm just wondering is it possible as we lay these out before the voters that we might Separate out those major bond projects from the ordinary things like streets sidewalks and drainage that we are all I think in strong support of and Who takes care of that procedure? Is that part of the committee workers that we had counsel decide on that issue? It's a combination. So let's Let's take stew being ranch that was talked about yesterday that would fall It's a major project, but it would fall under the parks category Now hardy oak which is also the construction of that as part of that plan party oak would be a part of the streets discussion So it really depends on the project We there have been a number of major projects talked about and we could list those out But they do fall into one of the categories That what that are discussed by by the residents Well, Cheryl I bring this up because what I'm very concerned about and I think all of us have seen this happen in the past there can be One unpopular project and I won't say any specifically what it might be that could actually drown out the others that are with it and Because that unpopular one Everyone the voters come in and vote no on it and all of a sudden we've lost some very valuable programs that we needed And so I think that's really why I want to make sure that we have a set procedure for that And then the other one and this one I don't think any was can really answer right now But we do need to be thinking about and that is the timing of the 2017 bond We're all talking about the May election Should we be talking about the May election or should we be talking about maybe the November election of 2017? Cheryl what would be the implications of maybe delaying this bond vote? That's a political conversation for you all There is no Negative financial impact to the city. I mean, it's it's strictly a timing issue And when you all believe we'd have the best chance of approval for the bond program They have been they have been in May In 07 and 12 But they could be on one of the dates that you all decide you want to have the bond program and I'm not asking for a specific Date at this time, but I just think that that's one of the tools that we should be using When we listen to the feedback from our constituents on when would be the most appropriate time to challenge them with Spending this kind of money. Thank you very much So now we've got Roberto then Ray then Ron. Thank you Mike So I want to get back to this you know getting into the weeds with this was sidewalks. So we have 2177 miles of a sidewalk gap is what we talked about and if I convert that into square feet It's about 35 million square feet of sidewalk Then we took we convert that into the our cost which we had said it's about $980 million that is about $28 a square foot that we're paying for sidewalks. I Think I want to answer councilman on Silas's question, which is why are things costing? $9 million and when all we want is a sidewalk and so I'm simply saying We talked about The sidewalk cost being closer to five dollars and fifty cents a square foot. Is that correct? So the The sidewalks were now our latest bid was just over four dollars Well, even better. Yeah, so we're doing great bids great competition amongst Contracts so I just and I just use five dollars and fifty cents So at twenty eight dollars. We're at nine hundred and eighty million dollars to solve our sidewalk issue in San Antonio But at five dollars and fifty cents and not four dollars. We're under two hundred million dollars Now I mean I just That's the big yes But let me just let me switch. I know and because we're kind of going back and forth on this I just point out that that calculates to about eighty eight thousand dollars per mile versus four hundred fifty thousand dollars per mile that the point I'm trying to make is As as councilwoman one Silas brought up There's certainly going to be some areas as our city manager also pointed out. It's not a one-size-fits-all situation and Certainly that is That is evident here. That's evident in construction And sometimes I think we think sidewalks are pretty easy. Just you know, you Pardon it's done But it's not it's complex and we have very different conditions throughout our city Which is why I've been pushing for more options different ways to build our sidewalks But I also think that there are some areas where we do need to take a closer look at why we're sort of forcing the issue that might be limiting us on On the the the ability to do most of these sidewalks at a very reasonable price so that it's doable I mean here we have a situation where a hundred million dollars and I absolutely agree with that and thank you mayor Thank you Cheryl for for pushing that we do need to do a hundred million dollars But at these numbers a hundred million dollars gets us more than halfway there. So Mike, please So the one thing that we do need to consider is that that four dollars a square foot is for the sidewalk But in in most cases you can't just do the sidewalk because you have a curb You have a asphalt connection to the curb You got to rework the the sprinkler system or the landscaping that's next to it. You have driveways along the way So that's where the cost your numbers are right for just the side most people don't have sprinkler systems And and I mean they don't necessarily have to butt up against the curb. I I'm gonna disagree with that I think that that's I think this idea that we're having to deal with sprinkler systems throughout the entire city is I Mean most people don't have I don't have one Some cases there's little retaining walls. I mean, there's there's a lot to I know and I appreciate I've been working with your department. I think that's that's my point is it lets I think Counsel needs to know what some of these issues are with regards to why it's costing that much Building some retaining walls do some areas absolutely need to have these sidewalks and do options help us get there Maybe you can speak to that definitely we want to we want to build these with quality their last 30 years Along with our streets and so forth and we want to do it as least expensive as possible So that's the approach. We appreciate continue to work with you on getting there Some sort of a near-marked amount from a budgetary perspective is to take the well, that's not the slide There's a different slide five And I'm not sure where it is, but I'll still talk to it. It's where you have a bunch of Whole list and maybe it was during Peter's discussion the list of things that we do with our ATD dollars And then the amount that's there. It's a maybe it's a different slide five My point is there are some expenditures. Okay. Yeah, there are I mean I'll put that one up You can stay up to good really relates to you more than anything else There are some dollars that are there that are included in there That do go towards Yeah, there are some dollars in there that go towards specifically supporting vias initiatives Right, so we are already spending out of the 16 million dollars at the bottom There's probably a number Within those categories that we're already directing towards via And that's coming out of our ATD dollars, which is a recurring amount I think the discussion that we were having was if we could identify what that was and slide that money Are that capital expenditure or into a bond then we would be able to take those dollars and Perhaps earmark those to go where to via what via is going to do with those is not necessarily those sidewalks Which is complementary to their ridership, but they're going to increase the the frequency of the of the Bus routes so that was one suggestion Earmark some number that says that could conceivable get us there if we were to pull Some number out of the 16 million dollars and slide it over to bond now. We took ATD dollars and do it that way They are looking to do something different with their With with the dollars are willing to increase frequency and that I think that's going to be really important So I would suggest that that may be a direction that we do from a bond perspective or from a budgetary perspective Of how we go about doing that the other one is the You talked about the MPO match on the Lone Star rail whoever had that I just want you know make sure that everybody is clear on that We currently have four hundred fifty thousand dollars committed on an annual basis pulling out fifty thousand dollars for our membership like the Lone Star rail I think some dialogue around a Lot of dialogue is happening around whether we leave our 450 in there or not I would suggest to all my colleagues that my recommendation is that we seriously considered leaving it there for the Short-term at least if not permanently Simply because I think it's a the city's commitment to four hundred fifty thousand is Relatively small in comparison to other players that are committing to this MPO has made a twenty million dollar commitment You know to the construction of Lone Star rail That one perhaps is in jeopardy I don't know if we're going to pull it off or not what I've asked Lone Star rail to do is to tell us what is it indeed that you would do with with the money when would we see results and You know, what is the potential outcome? There's options that that perhaps are not Reasonable options there options that they might consider routes for but they're not going to be reasonable We have not made it at MPO a determination Whether we're going to leave that money there or not what we determined is we're not going to pull it Until we get the data that's required to make that decision I would suggest that we do the same thing at the city level leave the money there on that until that Determination is made. I suspect in the course of the next few weeks. That'll happen From another perspective as I mentioned to the mayor this morning We have a partnership with the city of Austin. They've committed their turds. They're already collecting dollars. We've made this commitment The Austin MPO and the San Antonio MPO have committed dollars We really have to keep this partnership together as long as we possibly can until we find out that indeed this is not a doable deal I'll end in closing my comments. It says this is you know, this was a great idea 15 years ago It remains a great idea The numbers have made it a great idea have only proven themselves I think as a city we need to kind of continue that That commitment and I spoke as fast as I possibly could to get it and I still didn't make it But thank you very much, but you came down close right and well, well said. I'm tired of speaking Ron and then Rebecca Thank you. First, I just want to congratulate the city management and particularly Mike on 90% completion already for the 2012 bond I know there was a lot of changes in the process and it's worked pretty well We have a marquee project roadway project in my area and it's gone gone very well So congratulations for the management and all that I still maintain that the debt Management now that the comptroller is on the same page with us and telling the story the debt management of the city is really one of the key success points for us questions on ATD and Jeff if you don't mind we had a discussion outside I I don't know what the recommendation will be from the ad hoc committee But the point being I think there's general agreement that we need to find additional revenue for Via to make them competitive We also have major need with regard to transportation coming from SA tomorrow. What are the legislative options that we have? To perhaps enhance our revenue there sure what I told the ATD committee last week was that you know number one the challenge for for vias that we as a community are at the sales tax cap currently and Busting through the cap so to speak is almost a non starter at the legislature. It's been talked about in years past, but Very very unlikely There was an effort a few years ago for a local menu That would have given communities four or five or six options to generate local funds It was everything from a road use fee to a vehicle registration fee to a local gas tax a number of things it was defeated in the legislature and The two sponsors in the House and Senate who pushed that bill were subsequently Defeated in their elections and so it's almost made local option a bad word in Austin Unfortunately now that said the last two sessions The effort has been to to close the funding gap for text dot at the state level and this legislature has largely done that So there is possibly an opening to restart the conversation about local funding options and a number of the Texas Transportation Commissioners text dots board were discussing that just a few weeks ago saying they all felt that communities needed more local options That's the big picture The in in my view personally the most viable option could be a vehicle registration fee Bear County was successful in getting a $10 fee a few sessions ago and last session Border counties were able to get a $20 vehicle registration fee. We're collecting 10 So that's every time you register your vehicle Down in the county you pay an extra $10 that goes to the RMA here There's a possibility of pursuing that as a city initiative to go into a city fund for transportation There's a couple of different ways to slice it and we're you know seeking your input as part of the IGR committee and talking with our community partners about What the right effort is but I want to set the expectations appropriately It's a very hard lift no question because it's a anti-tax anti-fee philosophy at the legislature well just by the history of our Transformative projects loan star being one of them. This could be a long-term play. So I would I would Ask that our IGR committee maybe take up Chairman crier take up the the issue of what options are available to us And maybe we can get behind there was a mobility study done that suggests that it you know a nickel gas tax local option would generate 200 million for this community over a five-year period which is substantial funding compared to Potentially having to take from one area to another Mike you have a quick question you thank you Jeff You mentioned that there is now an uptick based on our imp spending on Road condition. What is that and you know because? Average neighborhood in my district or anywhere in the city I would imagine Sees the conditions of their roadways basically just we just want to stop the bleeding But you're suggesting that at a seventy four million dollar per year pace We're seeing an uptick in the condition overall, right? So the city manager during the budget process last summer. She challenged us to Okay, what would it take to not allow our system as a whole to continue to degrade or even flatline What would it take to have an uptick system-wide and so that's that seventy four million dollar investment per year And you all really stepped up with the recommendation of Cheryl last year to fund sixty four million in Streets, so that was that was and then if we if we cut every couple whatever is Available in the infrastructure management program on an annual basis with the bond program Then we can exceed that seventy four million per year And then that creates the system-wide uptick or where we know yeah, we have a lot of streets that are still in in bad condition And we need to get to those but the system as a whole is improving. So what are we in a state of? Degradation at the current level of IMP funding and that seventy four million is just for streets or is that the whole that's just for street maintenance What are we at right now or what were we? Prior to the fifteen million so we had So his historically it was going if you go back a couple years historically it was thirty five million, okay? Last fiscal year it was forty one million And then this fiscal year were up to sixty four million So that's a that's a great trend of course revenues are different every year So you have to look at what can be done, but coupling it with now a bigger bond program That's where we'll be able to to leverage that and get above that seventy four million a year to make sure that the system As a whole is improving so our goal amount ought to be in a fiscal year budget cycle to get to that seventy four million a year mark If we're going to continue the trend not to stay at sixty one So if it even if it's a fifty million, okay per year if that's what the revenues would allow But you couple that with you know We're going to do maybe four hundred million in streets in the bond something big in that range and that's that street Reconstruction so it's not just pavement surface But if you if you add that you'll get there with the bond program, okay? So the more obviously the more the better in the IMP, but you couple that with the bond to get there, right? Okay, thanks Mike, and then the last question I had Or maybe it's just a statement of support with regard to the sidewalks Councilman Crier Began the initiative on the school's own safety. We're at year two now, right and we're almost at 40 percent Where will we be at the? At the time of the passage of the bond in your in your mind, so we should so we are We projected that we were going to do 20 percent per year But now a year and a half into it. We're at 40 percent already. So, you know if we pick up another At least 20 percent between now and you know, we'll be 50 60 percent Well with with with the backdrop of vision zero And and just a recognition that we need to improve sidewalk gaps, but also repair I would suggest that there's an art policy states it that there's not a more important priority For infrastructure spending than to get kids who have to walk to school there safely So I would suggest that either a combination of the fiscal year budget or the bond as a Priority should take care of that entire need. I mean we shouldn't wait three more years or two more years to complete the school zone Safety program we should do that now as a as a top priority in the bond if necessary So, thank you, ma'am Rebecca then Joe Ray and Alan. Thank you Just I think for questions of clarification for the bond right now. Do we have any projected bond savings right now on any of our? We do not expect savings in the 2012 bond Given the economic environment, okay? And I think as we start planning for the bond and going to what councilman Gonzales said, you know one of the things that we heard With with my particular district in some projects was costs have gone up in construction costs went up here That's not what we budgeted for in Whenever we got the prices to so what did you learn from that that are you I'm sure you have learned from that That you're going to apply to this so we do not find ourselves in that Situation again because we're having to forego certain things that the voters approved right and then we had to forgo them And now I'm having to find other monies in the budget in order to fix my overlook So, I mean we need to learn from those Issues to make sure then we put them into the cost projections in the future and on that same note coming to the sidewalks I think part of the issue is yes We've identified areas or there have been things on the IMP or on the ATD list for improvements of our sidewalks But then when we get out there we notice the sidewalk you can put a sidewalk out there But it doesn't address the the issue of poor drainage that will then make the sidewalk You know not work because it'll be covered in water So you'll have a brand new beautiful sidewalk, but there's no drainage there. So instead of Just going and doing the evaluation of okay. I've done my evaluation and it's $87,000 for sidewalks with curbs, but come to find out you're gonna have a Water overflowing and you're not gonna be able to use it we get the calls and then we're gonna have to go out there Tear down the sidewalks again do a new street So that is put putting all of that seen it holistically of our streets I think that for myself when looking at our IMP list and our ATD lists to getting the true numbers of what will alleviate or fix those true issues of those streets So we have that quality and scope of our sidewalks and our streets That's one of the things to take into consideration when looking at all of these Dollars because it's not just a sidewalk. We want to make sure we have a great quality street with sidewalks there So that's another thing to move forward when it because sidewalks are a huge issue in the district 334 sidewalk gaps and talking to school zones one of the issues to becomes Areas that are safe for crossing pedestrians, especially seniors around senior centers, etc to take that into evoking consideration And then finally when it comes to the ATD because of that one of the questions I have are for those 24 positions It was talked about sliding that money over if that money slid over could you ever get that money back? And what happens to those city positions Yes, so there are certain things in ATD that could be done in a bond program Like sidewalks and so forth, but there's others like staffing Traffic signal system Operations that that can could not be funded in a bond program So then we would look at we look at that now we look at that as right-sized, but that could be cut or The only other funding source for that potentially is general fund So that's that's been a lot of the discussion at the ATD ad hoc committee is how do you strike a balance there? Is that the whole traffic signals department? That's that's everybody that's involved in traffic signal management So at our transguide center co-located with text out and via Managing the traffic signal system and so forth. They're the ones taking care of it. Okay, that concerns me Yeah, so we need their cut it or we'd reprioritize among other general fund activities and decide That's more important than something else that would have to be reduced though. That would be the council choice Jim Hit two topics with two stones here and in order to do that I want to go back to Ben Gorsel's presentation if he's still in the room Ben The more I learn about social media the more I learn that it is unbound by normal rules of either truth accuracy or morality and To give you two examples of that social media suggests and we will have the chief I assume this afternoon Social media suggests that after Chicago San Antonio has the highest murder rate in the country after Chicago Which I know is a bunch of baloney, but that's what's on social media. Secondly Social media has suggested for some time that San Antonio, and I'm going to your slide five Has one of the highest per capita Debt rates of any big city in the country and I'd like you to remind me that that is not true Comptroller coms came out with a report a couple years ago when I was here and you were here and suggested that was the case and my recollection Was that it was because it included saws and CPS? debt so for the record how do we rank on Per capita debt, and I'm looking at your chart Compared to other big cities So for the record this slide is coming straight from the state com controllers website tell the truth Texas And we rank eighth out of ten the ten major Texas cities Texas cities were ranked eighth lowest and you do recall correctly when the one the state Comptroller first came out with this concept We had a lot of dialogue back and forth with them because they did lump in CPS saws and we're making these comparisons among cities and Again those utilities are separate. They have their own revenue streams They have their own boards that govern that they're owned by the city But you can't take that and compare that to Dallas or Houston where they don't own the electric and gas utility And that was our point was that you have to do an apples to apples comparison when you do that We're ranked very favorably and you can see that here And then I again would validate it with you've got three independent rating agencies that take a look at us every year In terms of how we manage our debt how we manage our finances We have the highest bond rating from the property tax side that you can get most Importantly our property tax does not back CPS or saw as debt right so their revenues support Their debt so it was an apples and oranges comparison, but that's been corrected now We rank eighth among the top ten largest cities in Texas And I think that's a very important point because it is used regularly and people still Tell me that we have this enormous debt obligation. So anyhow, thank you for that Ben if I could go to Peter's anonian Close out my inquiry here on the advanced transportation District to comments number one. I absolutely agree with Councilman Lopez we have got to stay the course on this rail project until we Either figure out that we're going to get it built or we figure out that we're not going to get it built But in the meantime, we've got to hold our place placeholder on it Peter I know you've been having these conversations about transferring ATD tax money to via and I recognize that we made a historic mistake a long time ago and not giving Not authorizing via to have the full penny, but but we didn't do that and what I want to be sure of Before before the city surrenders a revenue stream that has been used to fund streets and drainage improvements in very specific ways for a long time Is that we have a legal opinion? Which I would like to see in writing from our city attorney that says We can take money that voters approved for purpose a and transfer it to purpose be Without opening ourselves up to a lawsuit from some citizen like oh say Jeff Judson just to pick a name out of the hat that we haven't heard in a long time and And discover that we have improperly transferred those funds. I'm I'm with Councilman Solidania on finding Creative ways. I am more than happy Councilman Nuremberg for us to go to the legislature To we went to the legislature for three sessions on getting five Text-out commissioners the result of which was we lost the first two the third time We got five which resulted in Hope Andrade becoming the chairman of text I my point being just because the legislature has said no before it doesn't mean they're going to say no the next time and the next time and the next time so Are you satisfied that we can legally tinker with money? Which voters authorized for purpose a and transfer it to purpose B? Yeah, it would be mark Martha would answer that question, but we have had those conversations as she's walking up here The opinion is that it can be done, but there are risks. It's not risk-free. I think is what Martha Martha do is that? So we've had the conversations with the committee members Depending on how you read the ballot that the voters used to vote in that year It's it is doable to transfer the money, but the some risks Martha may want to elaborate right and those risks would come we've talked we've had this conversation before would come from taxpayer-challenging the change of the use of the funds The ballot material some of the background That took place back when we first had the election. It was a via election and I believe that The materials just highlighted some of the use and those were not necessarily Written in stone and I believe that we could change the purpose of the use of the funds But it is with some risk because there are taxpayers who might challenge that I believe there's some discretion that the council to use those funds. Well, thank you for that Martha I was the treasurer of that campaign and I remember giving a lot of speeches for it And I remember telling people over and over again that we were going to use their money For these purposes and people in the audience nodded and said Okay, by me. Well, lastly, I suspect Francisco standing up because my time has run I Think Councilman Lopez and I agree. We've got to see some management changes with LSR as a part of our continued support and secondly Councilman chairman Lopez I think you and I and councilman via grandeur need to sit down with Bruce bug. We have no Replacement for Tullis Wells on that board as a result of which I think we do not have the kind of voice within the leadership that we have had in the past and that Concerns me a lot Both in terms of the management of that business and in terms of the board oversight of that Business, so with that Francisco, I will Be quiet. Thank you, Joe Ray Thank You Francisco, and I wanted to I'll speak directly to the advanced transportation district I know that we've talked a lot about streets and drainage and sidewalks, and I think that's been robust We have had a very robust conversation and just so that we make sure What the purposes of today is today is not the day to make a final judgment on ATD, but I do appreciate the comments and the feedback that you'll have given so far I would Allow time for the committee to come up with its recommendation and that we also get an opportunity to hear from via about what the Proposal would do for them in terms of impact I think what we've heard today is that we would lose something But I think the question is what we would gain in the event that we do transfer ATD dollars so let me start here We've had a wonderful conversation over at the folks with the ATD the committee has been really thoughtful in their approach What it's really boiled down to is that what we have in terms of an op in terms of opportunity here It's for us to really breathe life into the the culmination of a lot of thought and input That's come from the community and that's a tomorrow plan. So some of the essay tomorrow plan does point out Specific corridors multimodal corridors that need investment and there was some issue of not getting a consensus at the last committee meeting And I actually I was one which I wasn't ready to yet say whether we should go forward because we had not yet Gotten a deliberate and thoughtful concrete explanation from via about what would happen and we finally got that at the last ATD So I would say I think you should look forward to a very impressive Plan from via about what what is possible with the ATD dollars Here's here's what also was a charge from the mayor that was important for us to dig through is what is the real problem? With respect to Vian and the real problem is operating dollars They can receive money from the state and the federal government to provide for us shelters or capital things that go into the ground The question will be where can they find operating dollars to really compete with a? Demand that this city will put on them because they are our partner. Let me underline that they're our partner and What happens sometimes as we talk about transferring dollars that are doing one thing and going to another and I think we start to look At them as competitors The via maybe is our competitor for these dollars They are not that we should look at them as our partners here And we've got some great plans backed up by a lot of voice about what this city needs in terms of multimodal And they are our multimodal partner So kind of keep those things in the back of your head because here's the other thing to consider the question is what we're doing today with those dollars We are not being very thoughtful with the expense of those dollars today We have been spending those ATD dollars for the last 10 years, and we just correct something from councilman crier They're not going in I would I would challenge you to point to a street or drainage project that an ATD actually funded That's not their purpose. In fact, I'm glad to know you're the treasurer at the ATD because you had listed a street List of streets and names that ATD should have specifically gone to according to the campaign material did not go into any of those streets So if there's a challenge, they should be challenging some of the campaign material we put out We have not been as thoughtful as we need to be with with ten million dollars sixteen million dollars that we get every year There has been no strategic vision What what we need is is a plan that essay tomorrow is that is building out that vision Let's fund it and and let's give it a chance For via to come to us and present what is possible with with regard to impact With that ATD dollars charges and it there with ATD. I thought that was an important conversation for us to have here today Merit do you have a new comment or a response? And then actually Alan comes next and Surely, I think your mic needs to have we examined especially on the sidewalk side The use of the sidewalks after they're completed and if it's equal throughout all the districts the pedestrian use yes We've done various pedestrian studies, but not not on a comprehensive way I know the MPO has also done a pedestrian study. Yeah, I would hate to assume that sidewalks completed further out in more suburban areas are probably But I again, it's just an assumption are less utilized because of the socioeconomic issues and the lack of bus transportation and the lack of connectivity Because of the vast need throughout the city. We're only putting sidewalks in where we know There's pedestrian activity and the people want the sidewalks. That's the focus. So we know that they are getting used per request or per Necessity based on these studies We don't necessarily differentiate the pedestrian that has to use the sidewalk versus the one that wants to use the sidewalk But it's that through the sidewalk demands and needs are great throughout throughout the city and then also I just wanted to chime in as well as far as the funds to via anything that's going to increase the frequency and Extend the frequency because as we know our inner-city neighborhoods are becoming more and more costly to live in especially on the property value side and folks aren't necessarily getting pushed out of those neighborhoods, but a Shift because it's over the transient population of renters Because 50 60 70 percent renters in a lot of these neighborhoods are getting pushed wherever the cheap rents are so if we could focus maybe on where Rents are lower and and looking at that in regards to increasing the frequency on via transportation Thank you Sure Back to you just a question about the sidewalks because we've been on on and on about it But part of my I guess question concern is that if it's labeled in the bond Specifically sidewalk projects that it can't be used for anything else and I wonder if the word and couldn't be a little bit different that says You know that we're going to address a particular Neighborhoods can the language be slightly different so that we don't get stuck with the sidewalk project. That's not functional or That many of the requests that I had for sidewalks Then we're not eligible for sidewalks because it required a complete street rehab And then I wasn't able to do anything for the neighborhoods So what is the possibility to change the language so it doesn't just say? sidewalk project Well, there's lots of possibility that the language hasn't been decided yet and it falls into that streets in Sidewalks category. I mean we can devote and say that we're going to spend 100 million on sidewalks, but We'll have some flexibility Now having said that we want to work with you and the citizen committees to identify Where those projects are in the 07 and 12 programs? We've been successful because we specifically list the projects and then do those projects So we have some flexibility based on need and we'll further fine-tune and engineer those projects So that we have a good idea on whether or not it's a nine million dollar project or we can do it for 250,000 depending upon what the needs are and what the community desire is in conjunction with the council member So we do have flexibility good. Well, thank you that I think that helps with a little bit of the concerns I have About that particular issue and I just I didn't have a chance to talk about the lighting that Was presented my question about the also about the lighting so we know that that we are You know trying to improve the lighting add more lighting in specific areas, you know I know I've been requesting every opportunity. I have to get more lighting and in my neighborhood additional lighting Are we now? doing doing I need to make the I Want to continue on that program specifically the additional lighting in the neighborhoods where we're requesting and where they have been requested So I just want to speak very highly in favor of that. I'm not sure if this is where we need to say yes Continue with this program promote it very highly And I feel like I haven't had a chance to say yes, I want this or no, I don't we're talking about priorities But yes, I want to continue to invest in that program particularly the one where we're doing infill lighting And and also just regarding the ADT that I didn't have a chance to to weigh in on Just that I Believe very strongly in all forms of alternative transit and that we are Just taking every opportunity to connect people To opportunities, I mean that's really the point of the whole transportation record is to connect people to opportunities So I hope that we can continue the discussion and find ways to fund The ATD to fund projects like the Lone Star Rail, which I want to continue to advocate for and support the Lone Star Rail and hope that we can make those projects come online and all types of Additional Alternative transportation whether it's walking whether it's cycling whether it's mass transit and I didn't have a chance to to make give my support for those projects and I think I had one final statement on I was trying to take notes so I could be brief But if I need to come back in I will but that that was I just want to make sure that I'm advocating for them and don't leave without Saying that I support or not support And we'll go to the mayor for our closing comment in this section before we go to lunch And then of course remember that we've got a whole hour and a half to to continue working these priorities later on in the day So this isn't your last opportunity to weigh in on any of these there. Okay. Thank you everyone I think this has been a really good discussion on the topic that we probably hear most from our constituents about And I just want to remind everyone will have the chance to speak more in-depth on this as well After we get the budget proposal one of the five work sessions that we'll have will be on this topic So kind of quickly my comments and questions are in relation to Lone Star rail I believe that we should follow the Admonishment of Councilman Lopez As far as kind of holding those funds in place to Demonstrate in good faith that we want to continue to be in partnership with those who are working on the project As long as there is still a possibility for the project to come to fruition. I wanted to Reiterate my Support and advocacy for a large sidewalk component in the 2017 bond. I think that is Very important gives us a chance to really chip chip away at the need that's out there though I would be interested in conversations on how we could achieve some cost savings and in doing that and Would like to learn more about the the Cost-sharing program that we have in place I By way of question. I wanted to ask if any if the staff had any information on The outcomes of the previous sidewalk to school program that we had as well as the and how that works in conjunction with the school zone safety and then Mike while you're up there if I think when I think Councilman Nirenberg asked this question, but I So I hate to be redundant, but I just want to clarify what our Projections are and spending on the IMP. We've made a lot of progress in Increasing that but I want to get clarification on how we could maintain where we are now or even continue to Increase that and any thoughts you have on how that works hand-in-hand with the The bond program as far as the types of streets we do on IMP versus the bond And then my comment on the ATD is I would I'm eager waiting the committee's recommendation So and I appreciate the time and effort they've put in into that and I thought the discussion on us exploring options for local options for funding via and transportation is a very good start in that we need to take action on that as far as our legislative agenda for The next legislature Mike sure mayor I can I can address those first two items. So the city built a number of projects Throughout the city with the safe routes to school program to put in sidewalks and so forth That was funded some of that was funded through the state There was some federal opportunities as well. So we're constantly looking at those grants the one that came through text dot They haven't had the funding available the last couple years So there hasn't been a call for any projects, but we'll follow up with them to see so we never use bond money on that The bond dollars we never use bond dollars on that safe routes to school or sidewalk the program where it was specifically focused on sidewalks On the routes to school that the program that I'm thinking of was called safe routes to school And it was a state funded program that we we built throughout the city Targeted some specific routes to elementary schools and put the sidewalks in and the crossings in of course in the bond program We did a lot of safety improvements as well with sidewalks. I guess what I'm suggesting is that Based on whatever outcomes were from that program what we're able to accomplish that we use that as a start as a baseline and looking at How we could target a Large sidewalk program that that would be a good starting point because even though if it's a hundred million or whatever It sounds like a lot of money, but it's still not going to meet all the needs So at least if we could build on some efforts that are already in place I think that might make sense and now you've brought up the fact that there could be Additional opportunities for leveraging as you said this has been a program that the state has supported in the past So maybe we might be able to apply for it in the future The the second question had to do with the level of street maintenance funding in the in the IMP So You know last this fiscal year you authorize 64 million and of course based on the revenues that we had to work with Right now the baseline that we're looking at for FY 17 is 50 million and then of course That's a policy decision as we go But it's factoring the revenues and all the needs as well And so then we would be coupling that with the bond program as we know there'll be a Significant amount of street improvements with the bond program Could you just clarify again the type of streets that each program addresses? Yes, in fact that that's a good point the there has been discussion right along about the bond program Addressing some of those what councilman sold on you called the tweener streets because there's some streets that are really They're too expensive to put in an annual Infrastructure management program Maybe there are a couple million dollars and it's difficult to do that when you have a lot of other street needs and Historically, maybe they've been a little small for a bond program So we have we have had a lot of internal discussions about how do we Address some of those collector type streets that that need to be reworked and they don't so that those don't fall through the cracks The other I'm sorry just one more. I think um the other thing I'd ask us to be thinking about It's a little bit of a delicate question here, but I am going to throw it out In relation to the IMP and the scoring on the streets How we can develop a system that allows us to address The worst streets, I know right now we use the IMP funds proportionally and You know, of course that makes sense as far as everyone being able to address needs in their communities But for those communities that have the worst streets What's the strategy on them ever catching up? It's the question so I'll just put that out leave that out there for us to mull over Does that require a response? Well, I think from my perspective there, you know there's the f streets and the f minus streets that are out there that are really in bad shape and They're expensive to reconstruct, but they need to be done at some point And so what we've done before is some have been addressed in the infrastructure management program Limited because of the cost associated and then we do want to target those in the bond program as well Ladies and gentlemen that concludes the first half of our budget Council retreat lunch is going to be next door. We're going to come back from lunch at 1 15 sharp Meaning at 1 15 we will resume the program with public safety and our briefings from the chiefs So please be back a few minutes before that so that we can get a prompt start. Thank you