 So, lately, I think it's evident to all of us that Bernie Sanders has not been quiet about just how bad Joe Biden's record is, and lately he's been politely talking about how his record, just objectively speaking from the standpoint of someone who's progressive, is leagues ahead of Joe Biden's record. He talks about how he was against the Iraq War, whereas Joe Biden voted for it. The same is true for NAFTA. The same is true for the repeal of Glass-Steagall. The bankruptcy bill, permanent normal trade relations with China. So what Bernie Sanders is doing here is what you should be doing in a primary. Now is the time to duke it out. Now is the time to present your platform and your record to the American people and allow them to decide who's the best, who's the strongest. If you're not doing this, then you're not in it to win it. But Bernie Sanders has been vocal about this, and he's carrying on, you know, I think the nicest way possible. Because if I were in Bernie's shoes, I would be a lot more negative than he's being, but I think that he probably has the better strategy here in trying to keep it civil. But nonetheless, down in Brazil, a Fox News contributor now was asked about Bernie's strategy here, and she had some things to say about it that I took issue with. So take a look at what she had to say. Joe voted for the war in Iraq. I led the effort against it. Joe voted for NAFTA and permanent normal trade relations, trade agreements with China. I led the effort against that. I think if you look at Joe's record and you look at my record, I don't think there's much question about who's more progressive. You might be able to start getting used to this. Senator Bernie Sanders taking a shot at Joe Biden. Meanwhile, real clear politics average of polls shows Biden nearly 24 points ahead of Sanders and everybody else. Wow. Down in Brazil, former interim chair for the DNC, Fox News contributor, how you doing? Good morning to you. Well, good morning. So they're starting to fire inside the tent. How do you feel about that? It's going to backfire. People know Joe Biden. Joe Biden came walking to Union Hall. He can go to a corner grocery store and go to church in a black church. Joe Biden is one of those candidates that people know. They respect him. They know his record of leadership. And while there are many progressives in the race, Joe Biden is someone that has not just good values, but he's somebody who can speak to progressives as well as moderates and conservatives. Are you saying Bernie Sanders should back off then? I'm saying it didn't work in 2016 with what an establishment candidate called Hillary Clinton. She received four million more votes. I'm just saying that perhaps the best way to win, if you're not Joe Biden, is to go out there and just talk about your record of leadership, talk about the things that you hope to do to help the American people. But to attack Joe Biden simply for being Joe Biden, that's not going to work. This is politics. I mean, you know, you know the way that works. A Democratic strategist quoted in the Hill, here we go, I think people's initial reaction, the concern is that he's at a step of the primary electorate. Oh, well, I don't know that. What were you shooing away there? Was that a Louisiana fly? What was that? I don't know. No, that was not a Louisiana fly because they don't fly that high. They're gut level flies. This was like a big bee that just came after me. So I don't, you know, me, I don't like things to fly in my face. I thought you were shooing me away, okay? Honey, no, not you. Not you, sugar. Ronald McDaniel was with us two hours ago, right? You ready for this? Roll it. Give this a listen. Here she is. Head of the RNC. I think he's a temporary front runner. He's gotten a bounce because of name ID because he just launched his campaign. Obviously he's well known around the country. He has not faced any tough questions and he certainly hasn't hit that debate stage with those other 20 candidates. How about that? Well let me just say this. I've been around the block a time or two and let me tell you something. Joe Biden has also been around the track a time or two. All I'm saying, Bill, is that Joe Biden is a strong candidate, but he, this is not a cakewalk. He's going to face a lot of competition and you have some people like Kamala Harris and of course Elizabeth Warren and others that believe that the party should go in a different direction. So I'm looking forward to the debates as well. So the overall point that she was trying to make is that if Bernie's plan here is to criticize Joe Biden's record, it will ultimately backfire. She said, quote, to attack Joe Biden simply for being Joe Biden, that's not going to work. But that doesn't really make sense, Donna, because he's not attacking Joe Biden based on personal characteristics. He's not attacking Joe Biden for being Joe Biden. He's saying, look at Joe Biden's record. His record is terrible. He voted for the Iraq war. There are hundreds of thousands of deaths on his hands, on his conscience, because he lacked the foresight to see that Bush was lying us into a war. He was in support of the crime bill. He wrote it and he championed it. And he didn't acknowledge how this would lead to mass incarceration. But the reason why Donna Brazil can't comprehend why this is a good strategy for Bernie is because she genuinely doesn't believe that Joe Biden is as bad as we're telling her he is. She said that Joe Biden is someone who can speak to progressives as well as moderates and conservatives. Factually incorrect. He is the antithesis of what progressives are looking for in a democratic party politician. He is essentially a conservative and I think that what she doesn't realize is that progressives like myself, we don't view Joe Biden as just another friend, someone who we don't necessarily agree with all the time. But for the most part, at the end of the day, we have the same mission. No, that's not our perception. That's your perception. Joe Biden is the enemy. The Democratic Party establishment, they are our enemy. Just because we're forced to share a party with them because the opposition is insane doesn't mean that we have to like them. They are our enemy. And we are to oppose corporate Democrats and centrists and neoliberals as much as we oppose Republicans because they're not looking out for us. They don't have the same goals that we have. Joe Biden is against Medicare for All. Health insurance companies are betting on him to save the country, quote unquote, save the country from Medicare for All, whereas Bernie Sanders has them shitting their pants. Bernie Sanders has providers of Medicare Advantage plans increasing benefits to kind of communicate to Bernie. Please don't kill us. We can provide some value here. We don't just care about profits. So do you understand here? She doesn't get that they are not our friends. They're not our allies. They're our enemies. And sharing a party for purposes of defeating Republicans does not mean that every time, you know, we are doing this debate about who has the best record at the end of the day. We're going to hold hands and sing Kumbaya. If Joe Biden wins and becomes the Democratic Party's nominee, that's a lose for progressives. Now is he preferable to someone like Donald Trump? Absolutely was Hillary Clinton preferable to someone like Donald Trump? Absolutely. But that doesn't mean that doesn't suggest that if they win, progressives win because their ideology is that odds with our ideology. And that's what she fails to understand. Now one thing I want to talk about here. So the Fox host, he said the concern is that Joe Biden is out of step with the primary electorate. And I'm actually surprised that a Fox news host brought that up. But at first I was a little bit irritated with Donna Brazil because it looked like she condescendingly like swatted away that notion. Like she kind of flicked her wrist. And I'm like, really, you're going to be that arrogant and dismiss that notion that we have legitimate criticisms. But I went back and I watched it and she literally was swatting away a fly like a big ass fly. You know, if you look at this from a perspective of strategy, if you are behind in the polls, which Bernie Sanders is, one of the key strategies that you should be suggesting is to play offense, make the person ahead of you play defense and attack them. You don't have to be vindictive. You don't have to resort to ad hominem attacks but attack them and show people why they're garbage. Show people why they're not the best candidate and why you are. Now you do have to navigate carefully. And I think that Bernie Sanders is cognizant of this fact because political science research does show that oftentimes when you play offense, this can also affect your perception. So if people view you as someone who's being too negative, this can hurt you. But I think that what Bernie Sanders is doing here by politely saying, look, I like Joe Biden, he's my friend, but this is his record. This is mine. I think this is a great strategy, objectively speaking. So with that being said, I don't agree with Donna Brazil, but I do think it's important that we highlight why she's wrong because what she's saying here is not true because I don't think she understands progressives. She doesn't get it. She still believes wrongly so that Hillary Clinton defeated Bernie Sanders just because there was this disagreement and she won four million more votes than Bernie Sanders. And she talks about how Bernie Sanders calling out Hillary's poor record in 2016 didn't work. But I mean, it could have worked. You're the one who told us, Donna, about how the DNC was thoroughly in the tank for Hillary Clinton. I mean, she literally was controlling their press releases. You're the one who told us that. You gave us more details about how they tipped the scales against Bernie Sanders. So maybe it could have worked. He made up a 60 point deficit. So just strategically speaking, I think that Bernie Sanders is doing the correct thing here, but it's in the interest of the establishment, in the interest of Democratic Party elites like Donna Brazil, who I believe is a super delegate, to say, don't do this, Bernie, because she knows that this will be conducive to a victory potentially if he keeps this up because there's nothing wrong with saying that your record is better than Joe Biden's. This is what we expect. And anyone who thinks that a primary is about holding hands and singing kumbaya, they're just not in it to win it. And I get why you would want to keep the civil because we all have a vested interest in defeating Donald Trump. But if you have a primary that gets especially brutal, that still doesn't necessarily mean you're going to lose because look at the 2016 primary on the Republican side. It was brutal. Trump still won back in 2008. It was extremely brutal between Obama and Clinton and Obama still won. So people essentially when they say this is what the way that I view this, when they say Bernie, play nice, don't talk about Joe Biden's shit record. All they're essentially advocating for tacitly is for us to unilaterally disarm. Let's have you stop saying bad things about Joe Biden, but we're going to continue to have our stuges in the media talk badly about you and try to quote unquote expose you and criticize you nonstop. Well, we're not going to fall for it and we're not going to take that bait. We're going to continue doing what you should be doing in a primary. And that is calling out the poor record of Bernie Sanders opponents.