 Yes, sir. Here we go for a video surface Sunday. It showed what happened before the encounter When a radical group of protesters caught a black Hebrew Israelites Taunted the boys for more than an hour with racist and homophobic abuse A candlestick's got standing before the god of the earth. And if any man would hurt them any man would try to hurt them Fire proceed out of our mouth and the fire can just represent judgment, affliction, destruction. Come on The Lord is not playing man. The most I said he won't put his angels around us man Like give me songs one of five verse 15, but we suppose to raise hell That's right. We suppose to raise hell with this word One of the shooters David Anderson was linked to the black Hebrew Israelite movement it has many sex But law enforcement tells us he may have been connected to the Israelite church of God in Jesus Christ often described as a racist hate group And his head and his hair was white white Well white white like snow buddy buddy buddy it says white No bottom line bottom line is real simple Because these guys don't have the truth they won't give me the mic Why are you so afraid to give me the mic? Why are you so afraid to give me the mic? Why were you so afraid to give me the mic? The reason these guys are so afraid to give me the mic is all they have is hate Hate and anger In the name of Jesus, Yeshua, you are the liar, you need salvation Jesus guides for you, you're scoring him, you're lost, God bless you Good evening, good afternoon for some of you all, good morning, hope you all are doing well Some of them people have been asking me about Hebrew Israelites and what they believe and just to kind of cover them This is one of the few groups that guys if you tell me you are a Hebrew Israelite I'm almost ready to go the other way I'm almost just not even want to talk to you I've had a lot of dealings with them and so for that reason it's you know what I could probably get better understanding In most cases not always but a better understanding from the dogs in my house And I'm not calling them dogs what I'm saying is oftentimes they're just not willing to listen But what I wanted to do was I wanted to bring on my brother Chris Williams Some of you all know of him some of you all are subscribed to his channel If you are not please go ahead and subscribe to his channel His name is Chris Williams his channel is Kdub True So that being said I want to go ahead and bring him on Chris brother how you doing today? Man doing good, blessed to be on your channel man So listen for those there are some folks who may not know who you are Go ahead and let them know guys the brother solid is doctrine solid So I'll let him kind of tell you who he is and then we'll go ahead and jump into this Yeah, well my name is Chris Williams, you know I'm a Christian redeemed by Jesus Christ I'm married I love to do apologetics and so I my channel is focused primarily on doing apologetics to different Different varieties of groups, you know Christian Coles like black Hebrew Israelites Mormons Jehovah's Witness things like that but also deal with other topics like atheism and And giving apologetic to consistently defend the faith Also I do music so hey if you guys like music I'm your guy I like to do music too and use my gifts for that You can follow me on YouTube at Kdub True that's Kdub TRU So yeah Hey man so like I said I don't deal with them that much the last time that I dealt with them It went nowhere it went absolutely nowhere as a matter of fact one of them referred me to another one I take it back I take it back there was once a buddy of mine from high school who has now embraced Hebrew Israelites theology or their doctrine or whatever it is their Coles Here's what's sad about it he's a buddy of mine he is married to a white woman And so you already know where that's going to end up going Someone I'm not gonna say who told me about a friend of theirs who always who already is married She's white the husband is black he's been embracing this and so now he's decided after all these years Almost 20 years of marriage that is time to head the other way it's time to to go ahead and get a divorce Because he said that God they never should have married him in the first place And so with all I think that they had three or four children so it's a cult it's dangerous Obviously it's destructive in other people's lives as some of you seen in the earlier clip You all remember about the whole Nicholas Sandman deal and and and CNN having to settle with him Amongst other media outlets because they jumped the gun and accused him of actually being the one who's starting This racist rant towards towards Nathaniel Phillips the the Indian the the Native American But when we find out later we saw it was the Hebrew Israelites who were kind of inciting it And these guys are racist guys these guys have made no mistake about it That's why I call them a Negro Negro Israelites because they're more black than anything else And they're just looking for something they are really to me this is me and we may have someone here We may have some it's gonna come at us that's fine, but I think them as I look at them as more of a modern day Minstrel clown show that's just me they're they're certainly they're not a religion They're not a religion I can think of though they may hold up a Bible and read some of the pages they misread the pages So that being said I want to let Chris kind of give us an understanding of exactly I know you told me that they don't really like to go by black Hebrew Israelites but they want to go by Hebrew Israelites instead So kind of let us know who they are what they believe Yeah, you already brought up one aspect of their ideology is that they're racist and let's let me bring that up Because they'll you know you'll claim hey you're racist and it a lot of times you know you you say that to most people never like No, I'm not racist here's why but they actually think that's a good thing because they'll say God hated Esau God's a racist And so and for them Esau is the white man and so they'll say we're just being like the most high which is really Disturbed how you can take something that's actually bad and turn it into a good thing but One of the essential claims of the black Hebrew Israelites is they they is that they And when I say they I'm speaking of Hispanics Native Americans and black people they'll say so called so called Native Americans so called Native So called Hispanic so called black person Are the lost tribes lost 12 tribes of Israel. And so they'll appeal to passages like Deuteronomy 28 As proof text for that and we can get into that here shortly but their main claim because not all of them agree But their main claim is that they are the Israelites and that the white man has taken this truth out of the Bible He's hidden this truth from their people so that they will not be prosperous. That's one of their essential claims Okay, so okay, so let me answer this When you do they believe that white people can be saved Okay, that's a great question because not all of them are in agreement with that statement There's a group called GOCC they're called there that stands for gathering of Christ church They do believe they can't that white people can be saved but they must It's in a subservient way so they must come under the Israelite to be saved So they'll they'll appeal to like the Old Testament. Well the only way that the stranger or the foreigner could become a part of the Covenant A group is that they come they came through the Israelite and so they'll make that same appeal to why you know certain Gentiles can be saved But for the most part most black Hebrew Israelites especially especially the extreme ones on the street they do not believe that White people IE Gentiles can be saved and they'll appeal to passages like What was it Matthew 15 where Jesus says did I not come for the lost sheep of Israel And so they'll say see Jesus only comes for the Israelites They kind of ignore the Matthew 28 part where he says go out and claim the gospel to all the nations teaching them and training them You know and all those things but we can get into like how what they do with the when the Bible says You know to the Jew and to the Gentile we can get into that Okay well question this is this is one of the great mysteries What who is an Israelite because you said that not all blacks would fall under under under the umbrella of an Israelite so who do they consider to be Israelites Yeah great question because there now this may surprise a lot of people and a lot of people don't know this unless you're actually really dealing with their theology Is they're not even all pro-black and you may be like wait what they they actually say that Africans are lost Because their central claim is that the Israelite was taken from Africa not the African and like I said we can look at Deuteronomy 28 on why they why they appeal to passages like that Because so they're they're anti Chinese anti African anti white And so they they don't they like if you ask them if they're African they'll be like no I'm not African those are pagan the pagan black people and so yes they won't appeal to that as either as well So So either you are so have me understand either you're black or okay either you're black And Israelite black so color light or are you white? Well, what about everybody else that yeah, that's not black or not white So they'll they'll they'll try to appeal to Certain biblical people like nations to it's been a while since I've heard the what they think Asian Asians are but they'll appeal to a certain biblical Ethnic groups to say well all these people that existed then are still existing today through reincarnation and things like that. Yes, they do believe in reincarnation by the way reincarnation Yes, yes Okay, so Yeah, go ahead So what do they think about Like Native Americans here or Hispanics. What are they thinking about people from the Middle East So so native and let me deal with the first part Native Americans and Hispanics they would consider them Israelites Like if you they have a 12 tribes chart which pretty much Would render who these ethnic groups are delineate from and so you can look I mean if you just Google right now 12 tribes chart You will see who they appeal to But the Middle Eastern they do not consider them Israelites You know so but the first groups they would be What about Okay, well what about black from other parts of the world that aren't from here or the blacks in Africa Yeah, so Like consider Hebrew Israelites they believe they're from the tribe of Levi and so You know this is their ideology This is their ideology here's the thing you're going to find out real quick as soon as a black person walk up They don't generally ask them who their father is they assume because they're black that they are of an Israelite just like them and so Oftentimes it'll be that individual who tells them hey, no I actually know where I'm from I'm in Africa and then they'll be like oh wait Hold on never mind this ain't for you And so They're very Concerned about one's ethnic group But one of the things I always ask them is where do the Apostles ask where did Jesus ask Who someone father was before he preached the truth to them and they obviously there's no text they can appeal to for that It's just an assumed thing they try to place onto the text Okay, so so we were having a little fun with this yesterday. So if your father Is an Israelite One of the genuine black Israelites not not a black guy from from Africa Just just an actual as far as they're concerned a genuine black Israelite Then doesn't matter what the race of the mother is then the child is also in the lineage. Is that is that correct? That's correct But if the mother is an Israelite and the the father is a non-Israelite They would consider that person a non-Israelite because they say the the Nationality comes through the seed they'll they'll appeal to certain texts that you know talk about Abraham see So so seed comes through or the ethnic lineage comes through the father. They would make that claim And this is what this is what we talked about this yesterday This is why they actually deny the virgin birth because Jesus from according to them cannot be an Israelite If he didn't have a true physical father and so they'll say Joseph actually was his physical father Okay, so you mentioned about how there's this this this division between Blacks here in America and blacks here from Africa Because they draw from the scriptures about Being taken to captivity and so forth and so The only difference between the blacks here in America and the blacks in Africa is that that some got caught or some State or what have you so so how do they reconcile that how do they reconcile that that some blacks from Africa? Are not part of the part of the Israelite tribe or what have you though that the blacks from here They would probably say that they were descendants of these blacks. I mean that that that that kind of didn't make sense to me Yeah, so like I said, they're not very consistent because you do have certain groups who are actually going back to Africa Trying to make an appeal that these I guess Africans are actually part of the Israelite tribe So I know we talked yesterday, but one thing we're starting to see since Christians have actually been pressing people Pressing these Israelites for consistency isn't evolving of their doctrine. So originally they were saying Africans cannot be saved But now you're seeing an involvement of that well now some groups are coming out saying that well Actually, there actually may be some people all over because our people were scattered and so it would make sense that our people still would be In Africa and so like I said, there's there's no one thing you will find out If you deal with this group one group will say one thing and the next dude will turn around and say no that's false and here's why There's no consistent historical doctrine like Christianity. There's no creeds. There's no confessions anything like that A lot of time, you know people like me have to do the research for them and watch tons of YouTube material to find out what they actually believe Because there's no there's no systematic theology for Hebrew Israelites, you know what I mean Okay, so so that's important there then Who do they look to or who do they draw inspiration or leadership from are they just kind of just a bunch of different splinter groups kind of like Al Qaeda or how are they Essentially that's how it works. It essentially works as its own whoever is a leader of that so-called camp And a campus kind of think of a camp like a denomination You know and so whoever the leader of that camp that's generally who they look to for authority on these biblical issues or topics Okay, so one of the things that I want to kind of get into and I know other people might might wonder you mentioned about their their their theology and how it's just Bad obviously it's bad doctrine is it's a bad understanding of scriptures. It's just taking this and that from scripture So where in scriptures do they even derive? Where they get this whole idea from? Yeah, great question One of the passes they appeal to is Deuteronomy 28. Okay Deuteronomy 28 if you know anything about the Bible Yeah, let's let's bring up Deuteronomy 28 But let me set the context first Deuteronomy 28 is a they believe that Deuteronomy 28 Is actually a prophecy of what will happen to the Israelites. I don't take that view My view on Deuteronomy 28 is that it's it's not a prophecy. It's actually what's what I believe is a known as a covenantal contract God is laying forth the stipulations for the people if you obey the covenant this will follow for blessings if you disobey Curses was followed and you know it's not saying whether you will or you won't and but they take Deuteronomy 28 is a Kind of like a proof text of a prophecy what will happen to black people Ali enough in the 1600s But one of the passages Yeah, one of the passes they'll appeal to is the last verse in there Verse 68 it says and the Lord will bring you back in ships to Egypt A journey that I promise that you should never make again and there you should offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves But there will be no buyer and most people will say well, hold on a second It says it'll take you back to ships in Egypt. Well, they'll say well that word Egypt's miss just means house of bondage So America is that house of bondage if you guys if you didn't know America is in the Bible the Hebrews lights are saying yes America is in the Bible And so that's one of that's one of their proof texts on how Actually the slave trade is actually fulfilling prophecy because the people of God ie the Israelites they're claiming them Their forefathers were disobedient and so God sent slavery so one one asked one Ironic thing is slavery was actually for being self being disobedient They would actually argue Wait a second. So you're saying that the reason why these Africans were brought into slavery because of their disobedience hold on It is a light to remember. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry Okay, wait a second. Wait a second to see and guys you'll find this out that Just like you can sit and talk with Chris and he'll explain something and it won't make sense to you Well, it's not Chris's explanation. It's not the problem is their theology their doctrine and so Just when you think they're going some way you ask question wait a second this doesn't make sense. What about this or what about that and so right the question that I've always wanted to ask and I've never gotten any satisfactory answer is How do you derive that you are Israel? How do you derive that that is your lineage? Yeah, that's that's this is actually one of their reasons they say how you know you're an Israelite is because the curses fell upon you So they'll say hey well The people of God I either Israelites forgot their nationality now and I believe one of the pastors they appealed to is Deuteronomy 30 or 30 I won't go there, but there's a passage they appealed to actually a few chapters after 28. I forget the specific That actually said they they'll claim it's actually a proof text For how they forgot who they were and so one of the ways you actually know you're an Israelite is because the curses That are following in Deuteronomy 28 verses. Let me let me look here 15 through 68 and so we know that black people are So let me let me use their language. We know that the so-called black man is Israelite Because these curses fall on the ground and one of the things they'll turn around and ask you well Who else are these curses about if not the black man So that's my next question. That's what I'm sitting there writing down. Yeah What about the actual Jews the one that we consider I guess we have to say the way they would say it the so-called Who do they think they are what about because we can see how these prophecies Speaking about Israel about Jews actually came to pass. Well, how do they answer that? How do they just dismiss that away? I mean they just do they have some sort of I don't explanation as to what the Jews actually went through Oh, well, they'll say yeah, those weren't those were not the real Israelites the Holocaust although I mean some deny the Holocaust even happened But some will say those were not the real Jews and Man, what's one of the passes they'll appeal to is a revelation chapter 2 verses 9 Okay, let's go there Revelations they'll they'll this is so if you ever bring up, okay Well, what do you do about the real Jews? This is the passes they will appeal to for why they're not the real Jews Okay, those those in Israel All those things. Okay, let's let's let's read it Revelation chapter 2 verse 9. Okay. I know your tribulation Yes, and your poverty But you are rich and the slander of of those who say that they are Jews and are not but are a synagogue of Satan So they catch their key from those that say And so oftentimes you Right so so you'll be on the street and you ask that question and then You know if you go on the street and there's a bunch of them who are these Jews? synagogue of Satan and they'll all be in one unison in a court Saying that the Jews over there are actually a synagogue of Satan and not the real Jews Try not to fall over today It is okay. It's obviously is is funny, but it's not funny because You see more and more of it. I know in I know in different prisons whether it be federal prison or the state prisons There's always it's always a hotbed and I'm breeding ground for bad doctrine bad theology And you know in the in the well, I guess from the 30s 40s 50s and 60s and even the 70s and 80s to some degree you saw a lot of blacks Being brought into the nation of Islam And I've also seen the same things are starting to happen with Hebrew Israelites And they can be a little bit What's the word can can't take her if I can just use that word And so The sad part is is that it's starting to become more and more prevalent. It's not like that. They're a small group anymore And so my question is how prevalent are they Here in America as well as outside of America The question it's really hard to say because they're not as organized as other religious groups They're not as organized as Mormons or Christians even But one of the so at best me and some other Hebrew Israelites Me being dependent on their studies a guy that does a lot lot research in this area vocab Malone He's he's guesstimated at the very minimum there are 100. Sorry 1 million people who claim to be Hebrew Israelites in some form of fashion That's just in America and that's I guess at the very minimum There are at least 1 million people who is who would scribe to that ideology at least but it's really hard to tell So at least a million now you said it's also starting to show up in other countries as well, right? Correct. There are there's groups in London. There's a group in Ghana There's a group in Canada All over the UK and so there they're there because remember their claim is that the Lord scattered them over the four corners of the earth And their call as Israelites is to go and wake up their people and so Their claim is that there's Israelites in every every nation that they They're called to go You know pick up wake up Okay, so You know we've got folks out here, you know who are just and obviously the thing is this this is what I've noticed guys This is just me and anyone can say they disagree, but Your eyes don't deceive you your ears don't deceive you Oftentimes when you get when you engage within what you're going to get back If we're trying to reason the scriptures and hey show me this you don't get back any any any sort of reasoning You rarely get an adult conversation and some of you guys who are black Hebrew Israelites out there May find that offensive, but it's the truth Even by the comments, you know you guys tend not to be you tend not to play nice with others You really don't and when someone calls you to question about as though we're just supposed to put down everything We're doing and everything that we thought and listen to you and we asked for a reason why we should change everything You don't give any reason why other than yelling shouting getting emotional and so Here I want to hear you. I want to hear you engage. I want to hear you talk and so I don't want you to make just start these little these little nasty comments that you guys are used to doing I want you to stick around because we're gonna take some questions and answers and I want to hear what you got I want defend yourself defend yourself with the with the keyboard if you can't if you can't talk without being emotional Because you ain't the biggest and baddest on the planet. Let's get that straight Okay, and ain't nobody got about to beat anybody up and they nobody gonna see who's the biggest and baddest Let's just have an adult conversation. So explain to us So-called black folks Why we ought to be considering ourselves as Israelites explain to these white folks why they are On their way to hell and no as a matter of fact, what did you say is is going to happen to two white people Chris? Oh, yeah, they don't believe in hell. They don't they reject they say that's not biblical What actually they believe is going to happen is that the most high is going to come back with thermonuclear destruction and destroy all those who believe who don't believe It's funny. They don't believe in hell explicitly in the Bible, but they believe in a thermonuclear destruction of missiles that are going to come back and destroy Those who don't believe but what will happen to the white man. They'll say is he'll be bound to slavery And some are disagreeing on how long it'll be will it be eternal or will it be a thousand years that that's that's irrelevant The point is they believe that the white man will be enslaved for for some period of time So because you know they'll appeal to a text in Revelation those who lead into captivity will be taken into captivity and so they'll say hey if you if you Enslaved someone that means you're just going to be turned around and be slaved in the kingdom That's their theology slavery in the kingdom. So they're actually not anti slavery. They're actually white people They're anti white people slavery See I made I made the statement before with someone on another video about how I thought that their racism was actually worse than the racism that was committed amongst people in actuality Here's the reason why because a lot of people could get away with saying they just didn't know right Remember most people in America when there was slavery did known slaves didn't know anything about interacting with blacks just maybe in passing and they kept their distance and so there was at least Intellectual disconnected as to what we thought or what they thought about this race or that race you can't say the same thing now these people literally want to get revenge on something that didn't happen to them They want to find they they want to claim that they are the superior race is kind of like the nation of Islam who they believe that and I don't know if you if you ever listen to their teachings How they believe that a mad scientist named your coup invented the white man in a test tube in a lab one trillion or no I'm sorry six trillion years ago just ridiculous things like that And so it's all about trying to kind of one up someone hopefully for them in the future where the black man is going to take over and be this would be that and wanting to exact revenge So again make no mistake mistake about it that that the Hebrew Israelites that it is racist no question about it as a matter of fact when you see and you look on the news is uptick in crimes Against let's say Asians or against Jews the I'm sorry the so-called Jews the ones that we send the Bible You you can rest assured in most cases or not I won't say most case I won't go that far but in many cases they're the ones behind it you saw in the in the in the clip coming on about the man and the woman who Shot four killed four people in New York Hebrew Israelites and so I don't know how they or do they Chris do they do they justify that A lot of them will say hey that's what you get because you white people have been raping murdering killing our people for for hundreds of years We haven't done as much as what y'all have done so and some will say hey that's nothing in comparison to what's going to happen to you And so some will justify it so I mean just just to see how black hebronism or hebronism turns the mind of people to where they'll justify evil acts Okay, so Even though they're small would you say that Or how much attention do you think we ought to give to them Yeah, that's a good question because I know many time I know I've seen people in the comments well we should just ignore them because it's a cult It's stupid. It's silly. It's it's who would fall for this well be careful because In in the early 1800s when Mormonism first developed a lot of Christians had that first attitude towards them they ignored them said it's just a cult Joseph Smith is just crazy this this thing will be gone in 10 20 years there's actually documentation on that how how Christians really dealt with them and view them But look at Mormonism now it's one of the top religion when it comes to numbers and so my my thing is this There's people in there who the Lord desires to save and has saved out of there and if we don't share the gospel with them we know what's going to happen to them They're going to be lost they're going to go to hell for a community and so I don't think the Christian attitude is just to say hey They're just a cult leave them alone. Okay, it might not be your your main point You may I'm not saying to take up the cause and you only deal with Hebrew Israelites, but if the Lord places one in your way I would say get involved share the gospel with them in hopes that the Lord would save them because that's the means of how God God saves anybody is through the gospel You know what I mean? Okay, so now one of my one of my absolute favorite YouTube channels Absolute favorite YouTube channels is acts 17 apologetics right with with with David Wood and one of my favorite yes playlists that he has is You made me in vocab alone in Mohammed's boom boom room and so I was watching the video of Of him doing one where Mohammed meets the these two black Hebrew Israelites And what's funny is even though they're kind of you know parroting them It's based off of how they actually are There's always the you know the high volume when they're speaking there's always the angry tone like At least a couple of them but one brother in particular who's who's Who's in here This brother right here. He was let's just be honest. He's got some mean words to say which is fine You know brother. Hey, you can say all those mean words Most you guys wouldn't say those mean words in the company of other folks if it's just you they just don't I mean Let's let's call it what it is because you don't go to work with that You don't say it to you to your boss You don't say it to the judge when you meet your judge or to the police officer You don't do all that talking you do it now, you know, you know in the confines where it's safe for you around your other brothers When you got your little garb on you know your your I don't know where you where you all get these outfits from But they tend to have these colorful uniforms or things like that. That's fine But the the kind of spoof that he didn't I recommend you all go check that out Look at that and you tell me when you go and look at what they're saying on What they're saying on the streets tell me that it doesn't line up Now this guy also brought us as well. Well, where are scriptures? Well, it's kind of bring it's kind of hard to bring up scriptures To promote you or to go against you when you're not even thought about in the scriptures So I tell you what what scriptures do you have to back up that you are an actual Israelite? Tell me how does someone how is someone supposed to know? I'll let you get some time to gather your thoughts, but I'm gonna ask this question to Chris Chris How is anyone supposed to know that they're actually an Israelite? Well, there are a couple ways and they won't like my answer because they'll say this is the white man's version of how to understand But DNA genealogical records, you know certain Hold on hold on They don't like DNA No, they'll say that's the white man's science. We don't need to go we don't need to go to the white man's science because God has told us who the Israelites are in these in this book Matter of fact, this book is about us. I don't know why y'all white people reading in anyway It's something they'll say Okay, so My question because you're talking about this, you know this the this white DNA this white science. Do they have their own science? Not that I'm aware of like I said, so they will What they're saying ultimately is we don't need to appeal to a science when the God has already told us in the Bible who the Israelites are That's about us and so they're the oftentimes they're assuming their own conclusions Okay, so let me ask you a question. I just thought about this question Do they have are there anybody are there any peoples who are related to or associated with this this Hebrew Israelite movement? Who are either in academia who have Risen to certain levels in business and finance in medicine and science. Are there any Respected minds in Hebrew Israelite in the in the Hebrew Israelite religion Um depends what you mean by respected. I'll say this. There's a lot of rappers and athletes in this movement I'll give a couple off the top of my head Kendrick Lamar claims to be a Hebrew Israelite if you guys know who that is The running back he used to play for the chiefs a while back you might remember this name Jamal Charles Stadamire what I forget his first name Stadamire he plays used to play in the NBA There's a Mars no not Damon, but the one the Yeah, there we go And so there's yeah Mari start of my there we go And so there's actually more prominent people that we probably just don't know about and so yeah But so but because all you're right all I've ever heard of were just those that were in some sort of field of entertaining Entertainment be it sports or really music I Think right? I don't I Don't know if anybody like in academia. I'll say this because this is a spiritual issue. I wouldn't doubt it Are there people in medicines and businesses and finance? I wouldn't doubt it because this is a spiritual issue I could I could see that I just don't know of any I haven't heard of yeah prominent person coming out and saying that This is this now our good friend What's his name mellow mellow dank Sinatra? He wants us to break down He wants us to break down Hebrew. I'm sorry. He would do the run of me 2868 so let's let's go to it and mellow dank You be ready because I want to hear your breakdown of it as well. Okay, so Let's read it again matter of fact Here's here's a question. I have for Here's a I have a question for him because he claims this is actually a fulfillment of this of the transit transatlantic slave trade and I want to remind him but that in Versus What is it oh That that the Lord says that in verse 15 that all these curses shall come upon you if you disobey So if he's saying all these curses came upon the Israel light in the transatlantic slave trade then verse 36 He needs to answer this because it says the Lord will bring you and your king whom you set over to over you to a nation That neither you nor your fathers have known so he needs to answer Who was the king who was taken from the transatlantic slave trade because historically there was none But if you want to allow the Bible to answer, it's Jehoi again See here's the problem with Hebrew is the light they take out the fulfillment of the Bible and they apply it to themselves that's the issue and So I would like him to answer who is the king That was taken from the transatlantic slave trade, but to answer his question. He wants me to answer. All right Well, did you reference verse 15 and Lord will be Verse 15. Yes about all the curses Yeah, yeah, that was a versatile reference. Yes Okay, but if you then all these curses come upon you and overtake you, okay If you're not away the voice of the Lord, yes, God will be your God or be careful to do all his commandments and Statutes that I commanded you today Then all these curses shall come upon you and overtake you Curse shall be you in the city and curse shall be you in the field curse Shall be in your baskets and your your kneading bowls cursed Shall be the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground the increase of your herds and the young of your flock curse Shall be when you come in and curse shall be when you go out The Lord will sin on you curses confusion and frustrations and all that you undertake to do Until you are destroyed and perished quickly on account of the evil of your deeds because you have forsaken me The Lord will make pestle and stick to you until he has consumed you off the land That you are entertaining to take possession of it. I got a question though If they are saying that this is them What land were they taken out of and how does this apply to the land that they're in? You mentioned also about the king. What yeah, they'll say they are they speaking of but This land that they were taken out of the land completely. Were they ever really taken because I'm sure that I'm Assuming they're gonna speak about Africa Well, how were they taken out of that land completely? Now we know the Jews were taken out of their land completely at one point But how are these Africans these Israelites taken out of what in what land what what region were they taken out of completely? That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point because There still were Africans there or so-called black people. I'll use their language There are still still were so-called black people. They you know, they didn't take every so-called black person And so that would that'd be interesting to hear hear their point But generally what they'll appeal to is verse 68 and this is why I want to show their their hermeneutic on this is false It says in the Lord which they believe You shouldn't call them Yahweh, but Yahweh shy Or Yahweh and the Yahweh will bring you back in ships to Egypt Here's actually a problematic verse for them because they believe they believe that verse Egypt means America Remember I said that earlier, right? Why do they say that for them means? Egypt means America of Egypt Remember what I said earlier Egypt for them means house of bondage America is a house of bondage for the so-called black man. That's how they get that interpretation forgetting that okay at at the time of slavery From the beginning of it. Well, I want to the beginning because we don't really have an actual date Of the beginning of it, but at its height to the end What continent what nation did not have slavery you may go further north and we might not have an accurate record of it But all throughout Europe all throughout Asia all through certainly all throughout Africa It's not like that Africans came to America as free men from Africa They were enslaved first in Africa and then brought over here. So what nation? Would it would would not fit the the category or the title of a house of bondage, right? so And I'm sorry. I didn't hear a very good point, but but but here's how they're No, you're good it cuz cuz here's that the point I usually come to this verse or when they come to the verse I make notice It said it will bring you back in ships to Egypt You see that in verse 68. It's a little bring you back But when were blacks first in America? Taken to Egypt and then taken out of Egypt because they were enslaved to back to America The reference is clearly talking about the exodus. Mm-hmm when the Israelites were being In captive in actual Egypt not the house of bondage, which is some other place You know a journey that I promise you should never make again And there you shall offer yourselves for for sale to your enemies as female as male and female slaves, but there would be no buyer Yes, exactly there was a buyer So what they translate how they get around this is that were a buyer there? This was this means redeemer redeemer. So there'll be no one to redeem us But that's not actually what the text says. So they actually have to play fast and lose with the text and Oh, somebody makes a good point you know ships the that Egypt is That you know, they are spiritualized it they make it non literal, but the ships are physical So but what gives you the hermeneutic principle? Literally for the next word to have one physical but the next spiritual like what's the what's the contextual argument for that hermeneutic? You know, they don't they don't answer questions like that They they'll just say things like oh you a coon your uncle Tom see, you know, you Christianity's worse than crack crack cocaine That's not an actual answer to my question Even if it weren't you were saying we're true. What's funny is our buddy up there He he literally said that Christianity is worth worse than crack cocaine. So I guess I guess. Oh, yeah You know the talking points. I know the talking points because This isn't a a In-depth Knowledgeable religion it's it's we we're gonna repeat these talking points and if you disagree, we're just gonna clown you We will we will talk about your wife. We'll talk about your family You know, this is how he was the last think and and one of their justifications for that is You're not gonna be surprised at this point how they misuse the Bible the second Corinthians 11 6 From the King James version it says Paul says but though I be rude in speech yet not in knowledge Let me but though I be rude in speech yet not a knowledge. So they actually take that as a Yes, yeah, if you want to pull it up they take how they speak to people rudely as a You got to make sure you're in the King James version only works if you're in the King James Let's go to King James version cuz cuz you can see this Yeah, yeah, and oh and by the way, they're they're primarily King James preferred they used to be King James How are you primarily King James? But was he was he was he in Israelite? Yeah, King James was an Israelite man. He's a black man. They don't tell you all that the white man done done the white man done You know got your got your minds man a Christianity tearing y'all minds up What this will be funny for your listeners, but they'll actually make an appeal That all the Kings During that time period was a black man. You want to know one of the justifications for it. What's that? Well, why you think they called it the Dark Ages The Dark Ages because they were all black, you know, I'm Mean you Can't write this you can't make this stuff up You can't you can't make like if people think I'm lying. I can't make a doctrine this bad up You know and so okay, so he wants us to also go to Revelations 11 he won't now. I'm pretty sure Mr. Mello You're not going to you're not gonna cover you're not gonna Cover what we say you're not gonna answer what we're talking about about what we just went over in Deuteronomy, but you want us to cover Revelations 11 a we'll get to it. So just keep that keep that in your holster. We'll get to it when we start taking questions but Mellow dink Mellow dinks and I what's the odd name? Okay. God bless you for that anyway, but you own that make sure you make sure you stay ready So I'm sorry go ahead. But notice there was no Yeah, there was no appeal to what I said in Deuteronomy 28 because These are questions that it's it's the hero dilemma. It's a Hebrew is a light dilemma. You can't I mean they can provide answers But they won't be consistent with the text You know, you know, you there's could be like I said someone brought up you had physical ships with Non-physical Egypt there the hermene principle is not consistent with them So and that this is this is how they just get around the Contradictions in their positions. They you know, they have to do things like this, you know, okay So here's my question why they and we were kind of playing around with it But but with the with the King James version why an emphasis on the King James version? Literally because of what I said because they think King James was a black man That's I was looking that's literally their reasoning when you when you said that I was typing so I was halfway paying attention Which I'm glad I didn't hear while I was typing because out of made the whole thing crash They thought that the King that King James. So the King of England was black was are they saying that everyone else in England was black also? No, they'll just say that he was ruling Yeah, just that he was uh, yeah, I don't I don't know. So what they'll generally appeal to is well, there's this picture online that You know how like older pictures like it it's clearly we have we have actual paintings of King James and and also his family so we know we know King James was a pasty white There's no question about that. Yeah, but one of the things they'll appeal to is uh They like pseudo scholarship. They'll there's like memes about King James Being black and like what they'll do is well in the King James Early writings. He's appealing to his his people and he calls them Um, what do you because we call them some something something like an Israelite or or something and so they say well That's further language how we know he's an Israelite because nobody who's an Israelite would say this um, and then there's like a drawing that that has uh King James kind of looking black you can I guess kind of But it's a way later and it's I mean it it's like Wikipedia sources. So it's like it's not a good uh source He had we had this um Um, you know what you I'm not sure you probably didn't see it um Y'all probably don't know this but uh chris is is on the young side But back in the day, this was this was about 30 years ago When uh chris rock was on saturday night live And he had a character called nat x And nat x turned to everybody and everybody black and his little lounge you wouldn't notice Um Would you but I was talking like captain crunch was a black man or Santa Claus is a black everybody everybody was a black man But you wouldn't notice would you and so king james? Was black Apparently his mother was black So Okay, that Interesting. I would love to get some some proof on that. So I guess that would be somebody who has risen to the ranks to the ranks Um, well were they israelite? So was he an israelite or was he just black? Uh, yeah, they would say he was an israelite. Uh, you know um, I I guess in the sense that he came from You know a black father, I guess. Yeah You know, I they're not real consistent because I don't know like are they saying that he believed All their doctrines. So yeah, I don't I don't know Okay, so now let me let me uh address this guy is is him and another guy He says these christians are good when when there is not an israelite in front of him Listen, that's rich. That is um a comedic coming from you guys. That's like the pot calling the kettle black Listen when anytime you guys have the mic whenever you have the stage you don't let anyone speak You guys are the worst when it comes to sharing time. So you know what? I'm not gonna do I'm not gonna wreck this channel and bring you on here That ain't gonna happen. You can just type we'll respond type fast We have I have it on slow mode. So um by the time you finish typing. Let me say this go ahead. I'm sorry Let me let me say this because I have stood in the face of You know what? I I've I've I've stood in the face of those those Gentiles while they're on the street Because they're not israelites. Should we play and I have no problem Yeah, I yeah, I have no problem going toe-to-toe with him. As a matter of fact if he would like to come on my channel to give a To give a defense of the Deuteronomy 28 on my channel, I would be more than willing to do it If he can defend Deuteronomy 28 not go elsewhere, but give a contextual argument And as someone saying we're doing a whole lot of talking those scriptures We're destroying your your argument with the scriptures. We're showing how it's not consistent. What are you talking about? No scriptures. Yeah, this is this is the mind of a heberriza like You can bring up 30 verses and they'll say I don't see one scripture you brought up Like it doesn't matter to them. It doesn't let guys. Let me let me play this Do you want me to go back further or you want me to start at about the five minute 15 mark that you said? Yeah, that that would be a good start. Okay, because you can see how how they view salvation Okay First of all the first thing I noticed when you told me to go to that spot Uh, here comes to uh, I guess two nice looking ladies walking by and they they got all about They don't forget all about their religion and they trying to highlight the ladies, but anyway, let's go ahead and play Okay, hold on what are they wearing What is is there some sort of significance uh to the outfit that that you know of? Yeah, uh, their claim is that uh, you know the Israelites paul peter jesus Uh king david This is what they were wearing is what they were wearing. Okay Yeah All right, all right. I'm sorry. Yeah, a lot of people think it's comedic. I know they'll get I know they'll get called power rangers or something But this is I I don't believe that They were wearing anything like this. I mean Uh, I don't know where you where you get hot imitation leather from but okay Back in those days, but all right. Let's go ahead and continue All right, so what we're not saying is therefore go sleep with every woman. That's right. Okay. Go live What is it saying that one law is it talking about the mall that guy? What law is that all of All of it, but then it said we're not How could you when I think it's a mosaic a mosaic law if you want to be more specific mosaic law If you want to be more specific mosaic law the whole The whole to I know I know what y'all think the law is That's right. That's right. Let me show you what it's talking about. Let me show you how that's wrong. How is it wrong? When you slay it out, don't tell me show me. Yeah. Yeah, sir. Just read it. Just read it. Just read it Verse 20 in Romans 3 because for the works of the law No flesh will be justified and in sight for through sacrifice That's your interpretation comes you were also speaking like them too. I see I noticed I had to but this is a good bit Slaying animal, you know, you sin or you sin you don't slay the animal will actually be the the priest says Okay, so I'm awesome. But does the priest find out about sin after the same? You said something we don't because I got a priest up for it Do you agree? Is that where you wanted me to go or did you want me to go further? Yeah, right right there is good because Because they believe that we're saved by law keeping faith and law keeping It's a very worked-based righteousness religion um And so, you know, you go to the bible passages is like romans 328 where it says For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from the works of the law Well, now they got to redefine what works of the law is and Their their opinion their opinion because it is an opinion if it's not cannot be biblically defended and I'll show that They they believe what paul was talking about in romans 328 is that No one is just by by sacrificing And so when he says for we hold that one is justified by faith apart from the works He says we're justified by faith apart from Sacrificing an animal that's their interpretation of that verse but I I can I can show how that work the The works of the law that we are managed by by sacrificing an animal Okay, why not so they'll say all all all paul is saying is we're not sacrifices by animals But every other law we are That's the that's the point they're trying to get at is so is we don't need to keep the sacrifices They're still trying to keep the law For for justification, yes And they cannot understand Justification by faith alone because they think this is what so when you go and preach the gospel to a heber is like This is what they're going to hear you're going to say. Hey Our works cannot save us. We're only saved by christ's righteousness um What they're going to hear is Oh, this dude just said he can be a homosexual and still get into heaven. That's what they're going to hear Because they cannot understand Uh free grace they cannot understand, uh christ Uh working for our righteousness. They they don't they don't have a concept of that And so they think they still have to keep the law uh For salvation for you know And uh one one of the tech that we actually brought up Was uh tightest three five to show this to show this gentleman How salvation is not based on our righteousness Like I like I said if if people Yeah, and if people would like to watch that I encourage them to watch that video on my channel because You'll see this text brought them extreme troubles Because they cannot answer it tightest three five Matter of fact, I'm sorry. I just three five. I'm sorry. Let me let me let me let me pull another King jane's version because I actually I pulled it up but I pulled it up in the um In the uh esv, which I'm pretty sure that's uh that the white man's version also The esv uh like I said, they're being more acceptable to uh other translations now But because when I read it from the esv, he didn't say anything. Okay. So okay Well, let's go to king jane's version then for tightest three five Uh not by works of righteousness, which we have done But according to his mercy He saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the holy ghost And so what do they make out of that passage? So how did he save us? So so one of the texts I was pressing him is How did he save us and it's clearly not by the works we've done But according to his mercy By the washing of regeneration renewal of the holy spirit, which when they see regeneration They think reincarnation just fyi if you ever deal with him, but um That verse is clearly saying That verse is clearly saying we're not saved because of our works Mm-hmm So okay, so how you know and so they they don't like that Are there are their passages in the bible or not passages but books that they don't want to Listen to or they they kind of shun? Um, they're very so a lot of them are we'll throw paul under the bus We're we're we're seeing a lot of um uh, you know I guess explanations of paul where they'll say well paul He got some things wrong paul, you know christians always want to run the paul uh, so they have a very subservient view of uh A paul, you know, they they don't they prefer other writings because they because they think it's easier to defend Because paul plays no games when it comes to works righteousness You know, he's very clear that salvation is is due to christ's work and not ours and so Yeah, they don't tend to like paul because he's not on their favor Uh, some some will say yeah, he went off in a couple areas Okay, so So This guy is asking me to put up Uh, jeremyre 14 2 and herew 7 14. So let's go to Uh, herew 7 14 and let's see what he what he is getting at Um Is it is this our old friend? No, this is this rd. I don't I don't he's he's also one as well Uh, it seems like but so he says for it is evident That our lord sprang out of juda Of which tribe moses spake nothing concerning priests to that. I don't okay. Do you you know, he's getting out I don't know what what's his point with this I think the point he's trying to make is that jesus was an Israel As if i'm disagreeing with that like yeah, i'm not saying jesus is an Israelite I'm saying you're not an Israelite. See this is the actual and and let's let's go to Let's go to a text in revelation one because they can't separate the two revelation they cannot separate how they're not Uh Yeah, go to revelation one. I'll show you a revelation their proof text on why they think uh black people Yeah, on why the black people are Israelites. Uh, but what they they They oftentimes yeah, uh avert themselves over christ So they'll try to connect themselves to christ where there's no connection. Uh, here's here's a good one Uh verse 14 in uh revelation one verse 14. Okay, well, well, yeah That's the one they were arguing with uh, uh, uh, dr. Michael brown in the uh in the entry. Yes, exactly Yep, so it says their hairs of his head were white speaking, uh, Jesus This is this is a passage about jesus the heads of his hair the hairs of his head were white Like white wool like snow His eyes were like a flame of fire and so they'll say see who else here Texture is like wool That's clearly talking about black people, right? I mean, I don't see no white people, uh Got no uh woolly hair Funny enough, there actually are some people who uh of different uh And this is who do have woolly hair, but nevertheless. Yeah, that's not what this text is even talking about Notice what it says it notice what is actually comparing The hairs of his hair were white like white wool. So it's actually comparing Yeah, uh the color not the texture Right because remember like white wool like snow. So if it's talking about texture then jesus has mushy Woolly hair that doesn't make sense Um, so it's actually talking about his hair being white and I actually believe this is a apocalyptic langeric speaking of Of jesus purity Jesus is a pure Whiteness so to speak You know oftentimes the bible will use uh White to to represent holiness or purity. You know what I mean? Um, and so that's what I take this but going on uh His eyes were like a flame of fire see IUIC interprets this verse to say jesus have red eyes. You know why his eyes are red? Why? Because you like to drink a little like like like net the wine on good times Yeah, he like like jesus no good time Jesus out of control with the with the you know with the with the drink he drank You know, that's how they that's how they interpret that verse, you know, which is blasphemous that jesus is a drunk And so they just are they going pat? They're just glancing over the like it was like They're just they're just right. Yes Absolutely, okay, uh, but verse 15 is the point that you like the key in on his feet were like burnish bronze So if you know what burnish bronze is it's brown texture. So jesus got brown feet Well, so now this is the part that Back in the day when I was in my um My pro-black stage and this is when I was going to the nation of Islam meeting and and even going to see uh Louis Farrakhan and and I'm just you know, I'm pro-black as they can get but just not very bright at the time And so looking at this passage it got me thinking wait a second These brothers from Africa Their feet wasn't bronze You know, it was you know, you know, we thought You look like purple or blue, but it wasn't bronze But let's just be clear. Let's say if you do have kind of a bronze colored look Black folks want that one with that kind of color. So I mean that's exactly now you're reaching now you're reaching But I'm sorry. Go ahead. I didn't I didn't mean to interrupt you And and if you take this physically as skin color then verse 16 when it says his face was like the sun shining Jesus got pale skin in his face And so if you take this on a physical level you actually run into more trouble with Jesus got brown feet. He got white face He like a tie-dye man. You know, we don't know what he looked like he's struggling with his ethnic identity or what like, um You know This is apocalyptic language Here's the problem not to be taken literal that I really have with him This is this is where where it becomes really really childlike sophomore infantile Look at this passage that he wanted me to look up. This is him with Jeremiah 14 And this is why he went to this plat to this passage In Jeremiah 14, too, he says Judah mourneth and the gates thereof language and here it is They are black unto the ground and so I'm pretty sure these guys these these this with this little basic understanding that you go and you do a word search and look at the word black Exactly. And so you take this that that was a skin color So right they also do this with song They also do this for song of Solomon where it says I'm black, but they don't understand the king james rendering of those verses That's that's why that's why they like the king james because other translations recognize the Hebrew which they do not know Of that text. Yeah, that's not speaking of black color. It's actually speak It's speaking of them lamenting One of the issues that I always had with with them Is let's go back to the to the to the text. We're not even look at the text We're not even read the text I just want to put it up here because I want everybody to understand this right if you are a Hebrew Israelite Why can't you read Hebrew? You need to stop Faking, you know, we say fake it till you make it. Well, you're never gonna make it if you fake this bad If you're gonna call yourself a Hebrew Israelite, but you cannot read no I don't know chris you're gonna talk about if you haven't done so already About how they have they feel like the the the language of Hebrew has changed a little bit that even people that speak Hebrew today The old Masoretic Hebrew that that's not correct. So you you say that they don't they they they disbelieve this form of Hebrew and they have their own form Yeah, they they actually will call um, you know actual Hebrew which is found in uh Textual manuscripts. They'll call that um, they'll call that Yiddish and they actually have a uh, he They have a uh a Hebrew. I put that quote-unquote They have a Hebrew that they have, uh, you know made up which is called Lashawan Quarash And you'll see the distinction when I when I name of The Hebrew word so we know we know shalom, right? Uh, that's Hebrew for for Well, they don't say shalom. That's Yiddish The word there is shalom And so they'll say that and so that's to be the distinction. It's not Yehoshua. It's Yehawashai And so, uh, you know, it's it's pretty I could So here here's my Lashawan Qadash, let me let me answer this guy right here. Uh, he says don't don't act like you don't see Daniel 10 for Listen, we're going through your scripture. Stop acting like we're not going We are we just went through what three four of your scriptures. So stop acting like we're gonna We're ducking you. Uh, we're not this isn't the mellow dank Sinatra Channel, so we're we're giving you some some shine a little bit. You want to answer these questions So we're what you can start start doing is stop typing in these these uh, uh, these scriptures that you want us to look up And tell us why we're looking these up. Hey respond to us I've already told them. I've already told them email To email me, I will put you on my show and we'll discuss this I I give me send me an email Go to my channel go to the about section and email me and we'll put you on guys his channel some of you Kdub true kdub Matter of fact, um, I'm sorry go ahead go ahead up true The one thing let me go ahead and he can feel free to This is channel guys. So you'll look for this kdub true Um, and you'll know you're there because you hear the intro song all things philosophy all things philosophy. I look at something So, uh, that's one thing but now so so, uh mellow listen brother We're trying to keep up, but you're not the only guy on here. So We're going to take other folks questions. Well folks who are non is relates as well in just a second. Let let Let me let me give an explanation of why they think esau Esau is the white man because I I've given an explanation on why they think the black men are israelites So oftentimes a white man will come out to the street and they'll say look at this white man He's esau the bible the soak. Hold on, man. Let me start over the so-called white man You got to get the so-called in your vocabulary when dealing with these people These groups it's not it's not the white man He's so called white because the bible actually describes the white man as a red man And if you go to genesis 25 25 out you, uh I'll let you look up at verse. Like I said, this is their justification of why That's correct. Um, this is their justification of why the white man you see today in america Is actually esau and remember the bible said god hates esau and so Collectively god hates Edomites what they'll say so yeah genesis Genesis 25 25 is the first came out red. That's speaking of esau All his body like a harry cloak So they called his name esau and so we all know who who who read and harry all over. That's the white man clearly Funny funny enough Funny enough that version red is uh, you know some trans king james. I believe says ready Uh, but funny enough David is described as ruddy. Yes. He is And so what they'll do is when it's favorable for them, they'll say it's the white man When it's a israelite like david being called ruddy. They'll say oh ruddy means beautiful That that is Guys this is not for you for you israelites guys. These are for the folks that actually um that that watched his channel and other channels Like it where we are designed to be smart christians Do not handle the text that way where you look for something to That's easy for you to to mold into a meaning that fits your Theology or your religious beliefs. Don't do that Don't make the text Say what you wanted to say you say what the text is already saying. Okay, so now that being said When we talk about this this thing and I want to just go over this again this this whole thing of Of hebrew and what what did you say they call the actual they said this is yiddish and what do they call theirs? La shawan kudash, okay, so my issue with uh within these guys Hebrew is a Semitic language It's got two real popular cousins that are still around today Arabic and Aramaic and when you study Obviously languages morph over time they change English is done. So in its short amount of time, but so as hebrew so as greek biblical greek and biblical hebrew is not the same as modern Hebrew and greek But still there's there's a lot of similarities What you'll notice is When you start saying some words in aramaic and arabic They'll also sound like some of the words in hebrew For example when jesus is on the cross and he says Alla alla lama sabbatani. Well, whether he says it in hebrew or aramaic Both groups can understand because it's almost exact. I want to say exactly but almost the same sounding The only difference is is the alla illa or illa and so My my wondering is if you're if they're saying that this is not how hebrew is supposed to sound or it's been changed Do they feel the same way about aramaic and arabic, right? So because That's a good question. Or in ak in hebrew It's the same as is in aramaic and in arabic. It means brother, right aki. So i'm wondering Do they have the same view on aramaic and arabic? Oh, that's that's funny because I didn't make that connection till just now Because they'll call themselves Aak or ikeem when i'm talking about brethren most ikeem or they'll use that language. So Yeah, they'll say they'll sell it. What up aak, you know, like what up, bro? Like what up aak or what up ikeem? You know, so I don't know if there's a correlation with that But it's like you said earlier and and and we're gonna be honest I mean, I like it guys But sometimes people just do things out of ignorance not really knowing what what it is they're saying Sounds good. Sounds cool. Makes it sound like we really are getting close to our roots and you're getting anything but close you are Mangling definitions you are bank mangling Actual languages and you cannot find any scripture to support what you're saying. You're gonna have to write another bible That's what you're gonna have to do. Uh, mr And mrs. Neighborhood Hebrew is like you're gonna have to find and write another bible because the one that we're Looking at the one we're going through Only you can come up with that so He says, why don't y'all finish breaking down dude around me 28? Can I ask a question though? Look with with with your of course I'm trying to read. What does he say? Oh, hello, okay He's I guess he's uh, that's his way of saying hallelujah, but anyway or praise god um Is what his little icon right there is uh is saying but Mr. Praise god Mr. Uh, uriah ben yahuda My question is this Because we're not going we simply are not going to cover every passage that you want us to they're gonna happen But here's the real question if we cover it. Are you going to listen? Are you going to be genuinely open? And are after we cover it. Are you then going to go back to a another text? See what we can't do is answer go over this passage that you say go And then you go, what what about that one? What about that one? We're not we're not children here. And so We've gone over Hebrew. I mean dude around me 28 Was there any more left of dude around me 28 to go over? I don't think so. So I mean, yeah, I didn't cover the whole I didn't cover the whole passage But the problem is he can't answer the confliction with uh, you know the the contradiction it gives Biblically one historically two and hermeneutically three. Yeah, and so he wants me he wants me to point out Okay, you you really I've already I went through a couple verses and show historical errors Theological errors and hermeneutical errors. Do you really want me to go through the rest? I mean How much of the hammer do you want? I mean, uh, yeah I don't know. I wouldn't want I wouldn't want me to if I were you It's it's like, okay. Well, okay. You poke one hole in it. You poke three, but I bet you keep poking more Well, all right, I bet you can't poke six. So right matter of fact, let's just move on. Um Let's do this guys anyone who is also not an israelite Go ahead and start asking your questions as well, too If you have any questions for chris about about the israelites also Uh My my question to you israelites Um, how is this? So I want you guys to answer this question while the rest of you guys are coming up with uh questions But you but you israelites you hebra israelites Why does this not verse 68 of of deuteronomy 20 why does it not refer to The jews that we think of Explain it to me. I would love to know Why you don't think that this applies to jews. I get why you're trying to make it apply to you You want to know something funny? Any any group how who has been oppressed And taken through ships couldn't appeal to this verse if they use their hermeneutic like them, you know Matter of fact, there was before that hebra israelites existed now They'll get mad at this but there was a group called the british israelites And there's a bunch of white guys making the same claims that they do and it's like living in a parallel universe You would think you're in the matrix like wait a minute. There's white guys saying the exact same thing Yes, and they're just they're just as dangerous Um, but they did exist historically before they started always making these claims because the black hebra israelites Their coat group only goes back pretty much to uh, the the 60s at best 1969 is where people generally give the date but if i want to be gracious the 60s But this group existed long before them Matter of fact, you you spoke about because even and i know you said this to me yesterday And even in the uh the skit on um In mohammed's boom boom room with the hebra israelites One of the names one of the terms they talked about was this one west So talk about that for a second So one west is what we generally when i say we as uh people apologists who um who deal with this group One west is a a kind of code word or a delineage for their one two things the original school That that was created in 1969 Israel universal practical knowledge upk now they kind of call themselves upk It's a long story with that but So there uh it has to deal with where they originally set themselves up Was on a one west street in new york and so that's why we call them one way but it also deals Who are more extreme today? So those who out there cussing at white people Telling them they're the devil those are generally what we call the one west group and the ones who are non who are uh I guess non extremes or who may stream stream from a different kind of Ideology we call those uh non one westers just for sake of simplicity Okay, roman's 513 wants us to look up this this verse. So let's look at this verse. This is Deuteronomy 29 14 Let's go there It says, uh, it is not with you alone that I am making this sworn covenant But with whoever is standing here with us today before the lord our god and whoever is not here with us today Okay, you know what this is actually This is a good verse. This is this is actually a good verse to show why non israelites Were accepted into the old covenant. It was the it wasn't just only israelites in the old covenant There were strangers matter of fact if you read verse 11 It says your little ones your wives and the sojourner who is in your camp So there were non israelites in the old covenant the question to You know black keeper as the question could be turned to them If god accepted non israelites in the uh old covenant, why don't you they're what they're going to do is say Where these were non israelites these were just the southern kingdom Um, and so hold on the southern kingdom Yeah, because you know the northern kingdom. They were the southern kingdom So, yeah, I mean So the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom split, right? We biblically and so anytime it's referencing Or majority of times is referencing sojourner or gentile. It's actually speaking of an israelite So now guys, I hope y'all if if you hear that and I and I don't expect really I really honestly I really don't expect you guys to Um get all of this again. Chris does this a lot and so right But when they say things like that, that's where Just knowing the scriptures and I don't care if it's a hebra israelite I don't care if it's someone in this the word of faith movement. I don't care if it's a muslim I don't care who would I don't care if it is if it's jahubus witness When you know the actual scriptures and you've learned it Then knowing the real mokoi can help you Fend off some of these things that are just not biblical So if you're going to equate this to Absolutely the southern kingdom. Well, the problem is at the time of this passage There was no southern kingdom, right as a matter of fact At the time of this passage There was no division between the two at all David hadn't hadn't come yet Salam hadn't come yet. There hadn't been this this split as a matter of fact They haven't They hadn't gotten to where they were going So the problem is guys make sure that you pay attention to scriptures for yourself And then when someone comes and gives you this stuff because i'm just gonna be out with you And this might have been some um some negro israelite I mean some hebra israelites that this is just just just a mess. It's not accurate. It's not true It's not you ought to be able anyone who is not black not white just whatever you are just be able to look at the passage And you should be able to come to a similar understanding as the next person's how the bible is given to us But if you have to read into it So come up with your own interpretation. Well, then we got a problem I'm sorry go ahead someone asked a good question that Someone asked a good question. I don't know where it is, but if they ask do they believe white people can be israelites um And the answer is generally no But there is a group called gms great millstone Who believes that sometimes That uh, it might be hard to tell if a white person is actually israelite because of things like The mixing of seed and people have an interracial relationship. So they'll appeal to jeremiah You don't have to turn here, but uh, jeremiah 12 9 where it says Uh, the the bible says my heritage is is unto me as a speckled bird And they'll take that passage to mean like well Israel might look white. So sometimes or or black or so-called black so-called white So pretty much what they'll say is as long now. This is gms specifically not Not other groups gms Specifically will say as long as you're resonating with this truth. You're in israelite So there's a guy in ohio The hyal gms camp and you you guys can look him up. He's white pale as can be Red beard and everything if esau had an image of today, he would be it, you know what i'm saying And he he is out there spewing all this hatred but claiming to be he's a white. He's a white man He looks white and he's a part of a gms. He's a light group What i've noticed is and this happens a lot This is like and you alluded to this earlier But even today even as we go back to the beginning of the of the century the turn of the century going to the 20th century into the 19th and 18th century This isn't anything new guys There's there've always been people who have wanted to claim for themselves as a heritage This israelite Believe that they are actually the true jews and so forth and they've done so Almost always guys In a racist fashion As though that people who are not like them again There are many white groups white supremacist groups throughout the entire world But here in america who claim That they are the true jews the true israelites not these not these ones that were in the holocaust But and and so there are all these different splinter groups who want to misread The bible and so every time you see this and every time you see somebody trying to claim to be something inside the bible One of two things one They're racist or two They are trying to be super spiritual We said that again, right? Every time you see someone almost I should say every time but almost every time you see someone trying to claim that they are Someone or they are represented or they are of this lineage in the bible They are either racist or trying to claim for themselves to be super spiritual And I mean that by we got these folks who are these maybe the word of faith movement These people are going around call themselves apostles and so forth They are trying to claim for themselves some spiritual lineage Just like these israelites these hebra israelites these black hebra israelites are trying to claim some sort of physical or genetic lineage now someone asks a question I know I know you covered it earlier, but they may have come in late. How do they How do they test their lineage? Like I said, they just appeal to they'll appeal to these passages where They'll claim that the israelites were black. So the song of Solomon The passage earlier where it talks about them being black Even though those both passages referring to It's it's the description of their their their lamenting You know revelation one which taken out of context deuteronomy 28 which taken out of context They'll say all these passages are referring to black the israelites being black and let me say this My point is not to go around and say that israelites are white because that's what they'll generally come out and say Oh, so you saying that israelites are white? No, my point is doesn't matter uh I would hold that the israelites being of a mixed mixed breed, but It doesn't matter if you read john one. It talks about um But to all he did receive who did receive and who believed in his name He gave the right to become children of god who were born not of blood Nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of god my friend you need to be born again Being an israelite will not save you and so That's helpful so I've got on here this question Um about do white do they believe that white people are from yakuza like the nation of islam Now go ahead and explain to them their relationship with the nation of islam Or to even with islam in general Uh, well, they they don't really have they they would not get down with uh In a white nation islam. They don't they don't like islam muslims or anything like that or the nation of islam um, so But their view of the white man is that the white man is the devil that isaw is the devil um, and that's kind of that's kind of strange when you read the bible because you had Uh the devil in the garden and then you have the the devil being born and so it's kind of Real real weird when it comes to that and so yeah, do do they call themselves a priest to it? Um, so you will have some leaders who call themselves like high priest You yakab or something like that like so, but it's uh, mostly referenced to like one of some of their leaders They'll they'll have they'll have all bibu So they don't have they don't generally generally they don't call themselves elders or pastors You do have some that'll call themselves elders, but they have like Names like commander captain One one one one guy even calls himself guerrilla hebrew and so I wish I could have a debate with one with uh The the the biblical office of a guerrilla hebrew. How does one get that? You know or the biblical office or of You know commander or something like that, you know, but yeah, here's a good question from rishon Do they preach christ crucified? Do they believe in what christ great question So they'll they'll it's it's not their essential doctrine. Um, they don't they don't believe the gospel is primarily about Uh, jesus death burial resurrection i.e first Corinthians 15 They believe the gospel is about waking their people up and obeying the commands And so fundamentally we have a different gospel according to glacial one Um, and so they'll preach it, but that's not the primary focus of their doctrine Oftentimes if if you were to go and and listen to them for you know, 30 minutes without interrupting not saying something in the corner of Corner of an alley you would I would be very Very surprised if you ever heard anything about christ's death and resurrection. I would be very shocked Okay, so here's a question from uh, chandra german What do the hebra is advised for christly? I guess that's another group. You have you heard of them? I I think the question is asking what do the hebra is like to believe about christ I think that's what they're trying to gather because that's not a group So if that's what they're asking, what do the hebra is like to believe about christ? Um, they believe he's a israelite. He was born of joseph and mary. He's not god Um, he's coming back to destroy the white man Um, and so that's essentially a lot of their doctrines. Oh, yeah, they deny the virgin birth They deny the deity of christ. Jesus is not god. He's a man just like you and I Um, okay, so let me ask you or so a lot of a lot of times they'll yeah, yeah One of the things that that I've always thought about This is born out of my pro black days Yeah, because sometimes if if you've got Or you want to be a thinking person And you and you start espousing certain beliefs At some point in time you're going to have to start thinking your way through these beliefs, right? So one of the things that used to bother me about let's say the nation of islam or any kind of real pro black thinking Is that how superior the black man is? So my question is then after because because as blacks, we're so superior How do we get in this position then how did it get to where we're so superior so smart so this so that And we're the ones that invented all this stuff. How is it that? We ended up being subservient or slaves to whites. What happened? So do the do the Hebrew Israelites ever try to Figure out how this happened. How did you get a black king of? of The uk of britain of england And you know the old statement the old saying that the sun never sets on the british empire How did you get a king of that empire who was black? But then a hundred or so years later a few hundred years later. You got all these blacks who were enslaved all over the world Do they do they ever try to Yeah, this is why I do rhyme and puny it is so important because remember I said The reason why that black people fail from prosperity is because they they fail to keep the commandments And the curses came upon them and so that's their justification for why the black man is so down Even though he is superior now what they'll teach is now if only black people started keeping the laws of the most high All 613 I guess or 612 besides sacrifices If only black people were to collectively keep the laws They would be Raised up and they would see a lot the blessings of dunarotomy 28 verses 1 through 14 Okay, so they they actually they actually perpetuate a lot of uh white racist stereotypes that the That the black man is less or low right now, you know to me. That's very actually I mean a lot of kkk people Perpetuated that stuff and they seem to be in agreement with them. Um, you know This guy uria ben yahuda You didn't pay attention. He he he distinguished between the different groups. So he says, uh, yeah Tell the truth and stop being deceitful. You know, we don't believe the same as one west He didn't say you did he just he was given distinction right between the different groups. So and Here's you all here's what happens different beliefs that that you have with other groups I'm sorry. Here's what happens when you when you when you talk about it's like It's like somebody in the family when you talk about one family remember you talk about us all That's how he baritulates kind of act even if you're talking about one west they'll come on there and say You know, they'll get mad at you're talking bad about one west and and refuting all their night. So it's You know, I guess they like to keep all that, you know, you can't talk about all all the family or any of the family so to speak Yeah, um Hold on. Let me this is some this is some housekeeping right here real quick. Um A.m. I don't I don't I'm not deleting comments. We've got moderators But if someone is saying something ugly or offensive Or if a person gets banned, uh, the comments go with them too. So I don't so I don't think anyone's deleting comments What all we do is um, we can't delete comments, but I don't think this was happening I trust my moderators and so I don't think they're deleting comments But if they are is there's a I'm pretty sure there's a good reason for it. So If you're saying that your comedy getting through go ahead and put your comment up and so we can we can Um Okay, okay. Uh, mr. K said it was uh, it was spam. Okay. So there you go. So You got the best moderators on the planet. Just want y'all to know Anyway, go ahead. I'm sorry to interrupt you Yeah, that's that's it, you know, he you know They get mad when you talk about any heborizal light and they take it on as if you're talking about them But then they want to distinguish themselves from those kind of heborizal light So it's like be be intelligible to know we're not talking about you Um, you know, the the issue is my my um, you know, the statement at all all rows lead to uh, Rome I came up with a phrase that all rows lead to one West Because though they try to distinguish themselves Essentially, they'll have that same spirit where they do hate white people and will fundamentally believe a lot of a lot of things that they do Uh that one West do preach is ultimately what I come down to distinction is that uh One West is actually more vocal about their beliefs when but moderates They're not as vocal about the same things they believe so that's that's kind of the irony Okay, let me let me deal with this for mellow. Um, he says he's baked basically just said that they were superior than us I don't know who's I'm assuming you're talking about white folks being more superior than blacks If that's what I actually never said that or yeah, I was gonna say I said I said that's what y'all teach Yeah, so we don't we don't we don't believe we don't believe that white folks are superior than blacks But you know what we don't believe that black folks are superior to white Uh, by the way guys, and I know we get into we talk about this a lot in this country But they're more than just blacks and whites on the planet anyway And so we're not espousing Any um race or any color above and next the only color that we do lift up over every other Is red because that's what we're covered in if we're believers And so make no mistake about it. This is a christian channel And we're going to follow the dictates of the bible. That's what we hold true And so here's what you guys ought to do um in the hebra israelite the black hebra israelite the negro israelite community Is what you got to do You got to start convincing us as to why we should put this book down Why we have been misunderstanding this book why we don't get it why we don't know it the right way We think we've got it right And so if you think we've got it wrong we'll prove it because the way we've been following it works It it fits together the way you guys say it it didn't work You've got like four or five verses that you take out of context You look for certain things that can kind of fit your narrative But the previous verse the next verse Makes your whole narrative crumble. We don't have that problem In the judeo christian belief. So anyway that being said, um, oh, that's a good point because uh, You know, you'll they actually believe you shouldn't actually read the bible contextually um And their their argument upon that is a asia 2810 where it says presep upon presep presep on presep Line upon line here a little bit a little a lot of times they'll say well, the bible's not a Like a history book. You can't read it like like any other book You got to go it's a puzzle book, you know So you got to put the pieces together to make it make sense because you know if you just read it Through it's not going to make sense I'm laughing I'm laughing because you know you talked about it about it not being a or it's a puzzle You you said they they you know, it's a puzzle and You quoted the line of one line of principle precept and my buddy marcus That was his statement that he said over the over the weekend. Anyway Somebody asked his question and that is a common that is a that is a yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead Yeah, that's a common cult tactic You know, it's it's actually getting away from the context so you can establish your own doctrine You know and you can just appeal to a verse even if it's out of context. It supports your position Someone asked this question. I want to address this. Why are you wasting your time with these people? Here's why and this is we talked about this earlier. Here's why Because while they are why they might be small now, they may not be small later um chris brought up the mormon faithful or All cults start off small Remember the second largest religion on the planet is islam. It started off small And what happens is and and what we're doing here doesn't apply to just Hebrew Israelites It applies to jahub's witness. It applies. It applies to mormon. It applies to Atheists it applies any other pagan belief It applies to people who are professed christians who are all over the map Because we want to um teach what a core or what sounds or I'm sorry, what a core is what sound doctrine And sometimes you've got these things that can be harmful and and and uh destructive talked about earlier about The woman who her black husband, she's white her black husband is divorcing her because he is in this and they've got children And so it can hurt at a local familial level But it can also leave people away who have who are Contemplating christ and they hear this mess or it's best for black folks. Let's be honest. This is kind of here Who this is geared towards When you get outraged and angry over something that happens Um socially some black person dies. Well the appeal for this happens You had an uptick in in 91 um 91 92 Around the time of the writing king beating And the riots you had an uptick in people joining the nation of islam Why because you see certain images that are played out on media and it may trigger something emotionally And so what do you do you try to look for god in this and then when someone talks about well God is a god of the black man the white man is del and so forth And so because you're angry You might give place or give ear to that and so it's important that we see these things We call and now we're gonna we're not gonna spend forever on this stuff or whatever But it's important And the reason one of the reasons why it's important because as you've seen in some of the comments Some people have family members who are either in it or contemplating in it and so It's just helpful at least to know about it But even more than that whether you know everything you need to know about the hebra israelites or any other group What you need to know more than anything else is Sound christian doctrine understanding know your bible so that when you hear this stuff you can immediately dismiss it Hey, man. So Let me get back to some uh, some more questions By the way guys if you haven't done so make sure that uh, if you haven't done so yet by the time you leave This uh, this video go over and um, check out, uh, chris's channel kdeb true Would you consider hebra israelites saved? But ignorant of scripture Going out lost they are they are Yeah, they're they're completely lost. Um, they deny the gospel They deny the nature of jesus him being fully god fully man Um, they deny. I mean they don't even have the ethics of what the bible says about the fruit of the spirit of a believer I mean, they're they're racist. They they're hateful Envious they're strifeful. They cause the vision the sentience Uh, they're adulterers Because many of them believe that polygamy is fine. Um And like I said, I'm not saying all but some of them do And so when it comes to the fundamental things of the bible, they reject These things the bible says not to put any confidence in the flesh They put all their confidence in the flesh or and um at their ethnic or or uh, you know genealogy Um, fundamentally they flip the message of the bible upside down and so No, I do not see them as followers of christ, you know, so Oh, okay answer answer this question Can pro-back be complied to pro-women liberal feminism groups have not been treated fairly often regroup Yeah, I think that's a good state. Uh, a good question Because yeah, sure people who generally have been historically been, um, treated unfairly do cause groups But that doesn't mean those groups are justified in their, uh grouping um And so we would not say liberal feminism, um, you know, liberal feminism is good even though you can say, okay Look, I can see a trail of of women who've been who've been treated wrongly in America in this country. Um, the issue is not, uh, to To do those things but our foundation and our quarry would agree with me here is what does the bible say if if if this movement even though They have been done wrong or so to speak, uh, may have been done wrong You don't you don't you don't uh, you don't just by their teach because of that, you know, we Our premise is what does the scripture say we start there? So so yeah So this is kind of like and as a matter of fact, you you've led you've led into this is a good segue Where scott says what's the best method for evangelizing hebu israelites? I think uh, you brought up something good, uh, knowing knowing the bible for yourself Because if you don't if you just know the error you you I mean you can't present the truth You can just refute the error But if if you know the truth and the error then you'll be more than qualified but here My point is this I would never recommend someone to go out alone. I think it's very dangerous to deal with the guys on the street By yourself, I would say because there's going to be Eight to ten people up there the hebu israelites on the group yelling Uh, you know, it can get dangerous and there are some people who have uh been beat up on the street Going out to uh deal with these guys. So I'm throwing that out as a warning. If it happens, don't blame me Um, you need to go with at least five to ten Christians. And so I would say um Go with a multitude of people Bring your bibles Challenge them and and and if you can bring a microphone because they will uh Drown you out with their they'll usually have a microphone. And so if you want to be heard A microphone will help and so just in the gospel and preaching the gospel. And so yeah I would say this guys if you're by yourself and you see them up preaching just keep walking Because here's why Now unless you are unless you're chris and you got your buddy with you Well, first of all, unless you're chris and you and you're fully adept at answering their questions Or like he said you've got some people with you if it's you by yourself and you don't know much about them Keep walking. First of all, you need to understand this. I don't care if the person is hebu israelite If the person is nation of islam if the person is an atheist If they if they if their mind is made up and they're not going to listen to you keep going There's no need for you to waste your breath on a person who is just simply not going to or not willing to listen to you But let's say you come across a person who is Interested genuinely interested. This is why I said earlier that typically when I deal with them I just go the other way I'm not even trying to hear you because you're not trying to hear me and I'm not trying to I'm getting older and so I don't know if god has my breasts numbered And if that's the case, I'm not going to waste it on something foolish about trying to tell someone who's just not going to believe So but let's say you come across one who wants to listen genuinely wants to hear what you have to say Well, then treat them like you would anyone else Do you know what every hebu israelite has in common with you and everyone else? He's got issues. He's got bills to pay may have a family. He's got emotions feelings Things haven't gone right for him. And so what a hebu israelite is Is fertile ground if they're listening if they're willing their fertile ground for the gospel But when you encounter them, you've got to also have A heart for them prayed up as we say Be praying Be willing to understand that you're probably not going to Convert them that night. By the way, when you go out evangelizing Your mission should not be to to change them that night though. I'm going to Press the issue but It's not up to you as to whether a person comes to christ or not Whether they trust in christ or not. That's not that's not your your job And so you don't have to be upset or bothered because you failed Because you don't one plants one waters, but who gives the increase god and so When you talk to them if If they're open to listening well, then you engage in the same way you would anyone else What do you think about this and set some ground rules? We cannot we cannot and we will not jump from this pastor to that pastor all over so The first question I would ask anyone non christian Who who wants to hear about the bible? Even someone who is a christian. Are you willing to be wrong? I am and so that's the first thing And so that's the set that's the ground rule set. I'm willing to be wrong. Are you yes? Well, then we start going on and they're not willing. Well, wait a second. You said earlier You're not willing to be I mean you're willing to be wrong But you're not accepting this clear cut example. You're not even open to the possibility So you lied to me and if you lied to me, then I have no need to keep going with you in this And so you hold them according to their words, right? But it's the exact same way that you would evangelize anyone else might be a harder sell for you But they still need to as as chris said earlier god wants them They still need the gospel they need the gospel like Like a muslim needs the gospel. They need the gospel like an atheist or buddhas or hindu needs the gospel so That's my my tact When it comes to evangelizing these people but again if they're if they're not going to listen And typically if they got a stage set up and there's 40 of them Can you imagine the the 39th guy in the group saying you know what? I think all your dudes are wrong I think this white guy is evangelizing to me. This this this edamite is right The lightning is happening Um, it's small, but I'm not saying don't try But just understand if you're if you're talking to or if you're talking to a brick wall Save your breath If they're opening to listening um, or or This has happened to me before I've been in a room with uh, I just happened. I just thought about this chris. I've been in a room where there were Four or five muslims in the room and they were just you know, they were talking they were talking trash about christianity And me I'm a kind of person after a while. You know what? I'll give it like you give it And so, you know, they're talking about christians um About they're relating the catholic church to christianity and pedophiles and so forth and and so you know me I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot back if you listen if you shoot me at me with the 22 I'm coming back with a nine if you come back with a nine i'm coming back with a uzi That's just that's just me All fair and loving war, right? And so All right, fine. You're calling christians pedophiles and so forth. Well, what about muhammad since he likes to date marie Nine year olds can't get more pedophile in that and since all the countries in the planet that that allow Men to marry Pre-provescent girls or young girls as wives that only happens in muslim countries. So some guys say white court. Why are you even talking to these people? Well, here's why because the audience isn't just them It's another reason why you might want to evangelize In front of them is because it might you might not be evangelizing. They might be your direct audience But there might be someone on the side who's also listening which which which is what was happening in the room There's someone else who's paying to the hay core. You know what you said tell me more about that so You never know who your audience is going to be but that's what I'll take on that. Let me see Um, it's how it keeps asking this question the church of god They believe in the heavenly month. Can you can you send me an email and to and remind me? I don't know who that is and I can look them up I saw that you kept putting that out and how I want I do want to respond to that by the way guys remember guys if If we don't get your question, it's not because we're trying to avoid your question. All right Brother Alton johnson. What's going on brother? How you doing? Y'all also make sure y'all check out Alton johnson's channel as well Uh, he said what's up kdup? What's up? What's up? Let's see Okay, I've got questions for somebody else Okay, hold on. Let's see. We need to send this a long question So what race of people who you believe are the true israelites of the old testament according to the bible Please explain what scriptures also are african-american descendants of ham or sham. Okay, let me say this And I'll let you answer this as well chris One it doesn't matter who's an israelite That's that's number one Because whether you're israelite or not If jesus is not your lord you're in trouble That's just it is what it is And so you're trying to make it in off of your if let's just say let's just say you are correct And that these black folks who you're talking about are the true israelites. Well Doesn't matter. You still need jesus. You cannot get in off of some grandfather clause that Your ancestry was this and so by that mean by that by that Understanding that you make it in no you need jesus like we all do so that's number one But in terms of what you asked our blacks descendants of ham or sham Understand this When they got off the boat Here's a real boat when they got off the boat the ark And noah had his three sons They all did not look differently. It wasn't like you had a black one or white one and a yellow one No, they looked like their mom and daddy. Okay, so let's let's stop being silly with this now As people migrate to different parts of the world They're huge their skin change. That's that's just that's just natural People that live in the northernmost climates and their descendants are from there They tend to be a lot lighter than folks that live in the southern climates It's just it is what it is guys the closer you are to the equator The darker your skin is the more coarser your hair tends to be the further way the lighter you get to the The less coarser that it's just at this is what it is, right? And it has nothing to do with ham sham It has everything to do with people migrating god told them to be fruitful and multiply Um, and if we believe the bible then after the tower of babel after languages was confounded and they moved They moved all over all over to different places. And so you start seeing people's um Appearances change, but if that's what you're worried about then brother men of god, you are worried about the wrong thing You folks are the wrong thing so I don't know if you had a question if you had to answer for that as well chris or not Or if you want to go to the next question Yeah, these these are these are a bunch of guys who struggle with their identity So they they they look for silly things like skin color or being an israelite as if that's you know If you understand the bible biblically speaking that that doesn't give you your identity either being Found in jesus christ being found in his righteousness his his Righteousness covering yours your unrighteousness is what matters not not not what uh, not if you're an israelite or not Remember john won't it's it's not by blood. It's not by flesh What would you say so? Didn't moses also say that to follow the teacher after him christ So why doesn't he oh castles and yeah, well not well that makes too much sense. Um jason Just makes too much sense. They're not gonna follow after jesus They're not gonna follow the dictates of christ because it takes away from their narrative And them wanting to be somebody that that's really the whole crux of every of every Cult that there is The crux behind it is being something more special than what you really are trying to be something that you're not If you if it's a racist group trying to show how superior have how much better you are over the next if it's even if it's amongst Professor christians trying to see who's the most spiritual who has the power of god who can Cast these fake demons out and pull snakes out of folks backs or like that whether it be literal or spiritual All these things everybody wants to be something paul says don't think more highly of yourself than you ought to Just think of yourself with a sober mind Not trying to be something that you aren't Again every last person on this video in the chats What you are is some dirt with with god's air breathing to you. That's it And what are you going back to when you die to the dirt? What you better have what you better hope is that his spirit is in you And being a heap of risen light it ain't Sorry, so and if you think that's your way to salvation, well, then hey, you know what amen God bless you. Let's see how that works in the end. I'm willing to bet that uh christ is the way to god But if you think that by being a black heap of risen light is the way then so be it so Hold on. Let's see. Nicola has a really good question Chris she says do they deny Gentiles are white? What do they think about white folks? Well? Well, they like to play the play word games with this word Gentiles pretty much So pretty much essentially what they believe the word Gentile is Is a non-Israelite so anyone who is not of the Member blacks so-called blacks so-called Hispanics and so-called Native American Anyone outside of that outside of their like I said, you can google their 12 tribe charry It'll be the first thing that comes up anything outside of that generally they're saying is a Gentile Okay, and so Guy's breaking news breaking news Um, I just chris. I just discovered this about this about this software this guy where is he at uh Hold on Demetrius Boyd He said answer my questions Demetrius. Um, I don't want you to get get this confused. Let me just I want to speak to you Get closer You're not so important that your questions Glow when they come across so I don't always see your questions Okay, there are a bunch of people with a bunch of questions and we can't catch them all I just said that about a minute ago, right? So it's not just you who doesn't like us that we're avoiding your questions folks on here Who are subscribers who keep watching who their questions don't get answered? And so, you know what you do, uh Demetrius Like you were talking school keep your hand up keep right keep asking the same questions We'll get to it eventually. We'll try to we're not afraid of your questions. So now what I just discovered guys Um, I can I saw this little thing. I never I never thought about it But since you're answering most of questions I can go and type up Demetrius and then all of his questions come up So cool. So let's look at one of Demetrius's questions. I didn't know that you should have told me that Chris Let's see. I don't know which question you're talking about because you guys think was like this This man has no understanding of scriptures. I'm sorry. I didn't even know Oh, you didn't know Yeah, it's the little comments and reactions part just type the person's name in and it'll pull it up. So But Demetrius Maybe haven't been watching channel But if you ask me questions, let me give you the answer Okay, and if you think I'm ignorant then point it out. I have no problem with it being pointed out Just ask the question. Okay without the without the little silly childish attacks Now, I don't know which one of these questions you're talking about. Is it this one answer this? What is proverbs 331 speaking of is that it? So if that's the case chris, let's go and find it Proverbs 331 and then once we answer it chris my question to you is if we answer correctly um, are you going to Listen to the answer or have you already made up in your mind? I'm sure you have that We don't know. We're talking about anyway, which if that's the case. Why would you ask a question? But proverbs 331 Let's see This is funny. Do not envy a man of violence and do not choose any of his ways Okay What's the point of this question? if this guy's a heaver is it like what I think he's saying is That the white man is the violent man and you should not choose to be like the white man That's what I think he's reading into this but Like I said to be a heaver is it like you have to read into a lot of passages. I mean, you know Sometimes you have to divorce logic But again, I don't know if that's Let me let me says he says let me on your live so I can speak true What you can do is you can go to cater up true You can see him in email. Uh, you ain't getting on here. Demetrius. I'm sorry, brother. I already know what you're trying to do Uh, and I listen he deals with you guys a lot more than I do and so Um, and if I were you Demetrius, if you were smart if you're a smart brother I would not go on his channel and and challenge him. He's gonna make you look bad He's gonna make you look like you're a person who is not going to listen to reasoning and you already have it You've already because you're asking question with all these question marks as though we've been ducking you ask one question Like I'm sitting there hoping or thing. I'm gonna see you ask this question 10 20 times. You ask a question one time like we've been Anyway, Demetrius, um, god bless you brother or how we say it in uh, you're down in uh, in texas bless your heart Uh, Felipe he says our Hebrew Israelites pan african. What's the in game? Yeah, what what what is their in game? Other than heaven, uh, or what what is their in game? The the in game generally when you when you when you hear them talk about like, you know The future is the Lord is going to pay white people back for what they did with slavery and And you may say hey, I had nothing to do with slavery Yes, you did because of their view of reincarnation The white people that existed today were the same white people who were beating the blacks I guess I mean I guess at one point me and you were getting beat by uh, you know some some of these white people Because they view reincarnation. So You would say I had nothing to do with it. Yes, you did because of their view of reincarnation. And so essentially their in game is um Payback Revenge, okay Yeah revenge. Yeah, that's a heck of a way to live I can't wait till we get these white devils back, right? That's a heck of a way to live Oh, there's There's literally tons of video them sitting around Talking like that man when the most high come back, man I'm uh, I hope or and then they'll talk to black people who disagree like us like man I hope I'm on sleeve when you when when when we in the kingdom so I can get you they'll they'll they'll talk like this See, this is me my um I told you that after a while, okay fine. I'll play your game. We'll get me now Right there. What'd you do right? Some of these guys is it funny man? You guys are funny um because listen if No one else can come to your rationalization when it comes to scriptures and maybe as you You know the old saying uh, if you can't identify the marker, maybe you're the mark If no one else can see what you're seeing. Maybe you're the one that's seeing it wrong And with you Hebrew Israelites again, granted you're growing, but you're still a small group You're small a small number no one no one out most black folks. I respect you That's sad when your own family your so-called family don't even respect you I you know if you go home for Christmas you start talking with this This Hebrew is like stuff most y'all can't go home for Christmas or Easter or or whenever or holidays or birthday parties Uh, I'm pretty sure you tear up the funerals when somebody died because You come in with you with uh, with your thriller outfit on, you know Gold and black or what have you and you had some That most people are not going to want to hear it and you ought to ask yourself this question. Why? Why is no one not nearly enough people are listening? You mean tell me god has a plan for us people and such a small number of people on the planet have gotten it When christianity was small, you know when it was this small at the beginning and then it exploded Well, why didn't if the most high Is is is the god of your religion? How come it hadn't taken off? How come you are you are not even a you're not even a third rate? Cult you're further behind you're not jovas witness. You're not Mormons. You're not islam You're not even a nation of islam so You got to ask yourself a question just do some soul searching. Look at look inwardly. What's up guys? Why aren't we growing and then? Hopefully the lord will tell you because you're not what you say you are you're not my people so Anyway, I didn't mean to be I take it back. I was gonna say I didn't mean to be mean I didn't mean to be mean or rude, but I'm just I'm I'm giving to you the best way You can't what was Michael Jackson? Michael Jackson was He was a lot of things But he was a jovas witness Once he left indiana. He got messed up real bad. You should have stayed in indiana Anyway, uh, let me give a couple more questions. We're gonna we're gonna go ahead and get up out of here He says You're not my people. Amen. Amen, brother. Listen chris are you offended? The man I'm not offended but according to his doc but according to his doctrine We are Because our fathers are the so-called black men So according to the doctrine we are israelites I mean i've gone on the streets and they they've admitted this very thing That yeah, you and israeli you just not woke up yet. Oh, so demetrius is wrong Yeah, demetrius is absolutely wrong according to the doctrine. I thought you were an israelite based on your father Right demetrius. Yeah, demetrius So are you changing your doctrine? How or is there another way we're in israelite? Now what generally they'll say is you're in israelite, but you haven't woke up yet What you need to do is keep these commandments and then you'll be what they'll call you you and I is uh They'll call us a jake. We're not a jake up yet If you obey these laws, you'll be jake up. You but right now you're just a jake He said aren't true believers the real jews as it states in romans uh, jason I would like for you just keep You didn't gotta subscribe to the channel. I don't want you to keep just keep watching the channel. Keep listening No, the answer is no true jews. Um, aren't true believers real jews? Well um, a real jew is a believer But all believers aren't jew And so there's a distinction that's that's made between israel And the church and god is going to deal with israel. I'm not sure what with your what all I know what most of your doctrine beliefs are What maybe your eschatological beliefs are chris but I believe that god has a plan for His gentile believers the church As well as israel I believe that a jew who comes to christ becomes part of the church I don't believe that the church becomes part of israel There's a distinction and we'll see the distinction born out during the tribulation when he The whole point of daniel's prophecy is to deal with israel And they're unrepentant heart. He says not israel is israel, which also means not all christians also christians too I'll take it that way too, but uh, no to answer your question jason Um, aren't true believers the real jews? No, uh, you are you are um, abusing the text or misunderstanding that particular text so anyway So, um, I would have a different perspective. I come from a more amillennial perspective But we can talk about that some other time. I almost banned you right there chris. I'm so No, no Um, see I know like, um Vody bachem and and and james white um I get down with a lot a lot not all but a lot of their of their theology Uh, but when it comes to the end times, uh, eschatology, I don't Again, I take a literal hermeneutic approach. And so I read literally The the different covenants, especially the the the davidic covenant and so forth and that israel is given a natural I mean a normal to a normal plain reading that they have a literal future in hope, but People see it differently, which is fine. Which is fine again Um before we get to the end times Uh We're for the most part good, right? Which is by the way guys, I hope y'all just notice that yeah We all be different on on premillennialism and amillennialism and we not hate each other. So Christians can get along. Amen No, no need to Do they think they're saved just because of their lineage nothing else Yeah, that's a good question. So just by being know if I will say that i'm israelite am I saved then just because I recognize that Or do I have to do something they'll say well You need to also keep these laws, but it's real they're they're I mean we talk about our difference in eschatology We're actually a lot closer But because their eschatology is strange because they'll say you need to endure to the end to be saved But but then there will be uh, so-called blacks natives and uh, Hispanics in the kingdom Reaping some of the benefits. So they're not very it's not very clear what they believe about uh Salvation I like that. You gotta be a woke. Yeah, you gotta be a woke Let me answer this question. I just saw it. Um Because I know where you're gonna go with this Jason at least I'm sorry. I think I know where you're gonna go with this Um, do you believe in Calvinism last question? And I'm not sure if that's where you're going with it But a lot of folks will say hey if you're Calvinist that you can't this or that or you make these aspersions Or these these these beliefs or you come with these beliefs based on if this person's a Calvinist or not This is why Chris. I tell that when they ask me. What am I? Um, I'll I'll say I'm not that I'm not this and if I were I wouldn't tell you why Again, you obviously, you know who James White is Um, and so he has this back and forth going with uh, latent flowers And in that in those two camps People oftentimes will especially when you're coming at a at a Calvinist You'll start judging the Calvinist based off of what some other Calvinist said or Or some writing of a of a of a Calvinist or someone you thought was a Calvinist 100 years ago 300 years ago. What happened? Um before there was Calvin And so I won't tell you even if I even if I if I'm not a Calvinist But if I were I wouldn't tell you I were you know why because I want you to judge me by the scriptures So when I say something, uh-huh, but you're saying I come from a Calvinist point of view No, I'm coming from a biblical point of view if you think I'm wrong then let's deal with that I don't want you having your mind before I can get my point out. How you're going to Throat what I'm saying from an anti Calvinist view now You all know that a lot of what Calvinists believe Um, I kind of jive with do I believe in election? I absolutely do Um, you can't read the greek and not come away with that Um, I told you guys my biggest thing that I that I that I that kind of pushes me is going to be Um one just a normal plain reading, but when there's some sort of confusion When two people with the with the spirit can disagree How do we come or formulate an actual uh genuine understanding? I lean on the Hebrew and greek and so And so I don't think that you can come to uh an understanding Of what god is doing his his power his work I think it's clear in the english I really do I really do but I think it's nailed shut in the greek and Hebrew I really do so anyway Uh, now what happens here is if I say something The guys on the channel they'll start like if I say hey, I'm a colts fan Everybody's gonna start putting their team if I say, uh, I was born this year Everybody's gonna start putting the year they were born and so He says 1689 Baptist Confessions. Okay, amen That's right 1689, baby That's why I put that up because I knew you Uh, someone else all said I'm millennial as well Red wine 65 five point here Um, I told a guy I'm a I'm a one. I'm a one point Calvinist With some four points, um as well to go. I've got some issues with Calvinism that I do agree with I've got some issues with Calvinism. For example, do I believe that uh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I'm not going there No, I won't do that. I won't do that. Right. I won't do that. We'll be here for another hour. Um Um, let me go too. So I mean, look Samuel, I'm a Baptist kjv only. Amen, brother. Amen. Um I'm a 10 point Calvinist. Amen My god, pervert of your life By the way guys, if you haven't checked out his channels, we'll go there. Listen guys There are a lot of good christian youtube channels Period and I'm not one of these guys somebody accused me of the other night and I was so bothered Because I don't want you to impugn my motives that I'm speaking about something because of I'm trying to get Clicks or I'm trying to get views or likes or what have you do you know? And I don't know if I can do this right now. Well, I can't do this It'll take too many clicks, but um anyone with a youtube channel You can go to youtube studio And you can go and check and see where people who come to your channel what other channels they watched or what other Videos they have just what youtube kind of puts that together for you. So I can say, okay This guy or most a lot of these folks have just watched this this this uh this video So if I want to gain views I can do a video about that video right or similar to that or if they watch let's say they they They like tony evans. I can do a video on tony evans That's why you see a lot of these channels that have exploded When they put up videos for the most part about john mccarthur or about bodhi bakham and their and their channels explode, right? Do you know what i've done? I was shown my wife this and and and and she was kind of looking at it as well I've talked about recently. I had a critique about allen park. I've had a critique about obviously marcus riders I've had a critique about and one coming up saturday about What is that gino jennings? A lot of the viewers that come here watch those channels So it would be youtube suicide for me to critique them, right? Not me. I'm a critique If I think there's a reason to critique you I don't have an issue with this With trying to build up subscribers or trying to build up views. God is going to take care of that one way or the other Is that that I can't control what you're going to like or what you're going to watch I've never asked anybody for any money ever Um, if folks give they give so god is going to take it one thing I know because of what I've gone through chris is that I've been through enough and I've seen god bring me through but I don't have to sit and and wonder if he's going to do it Again, I know the goodness of god what he's going to do I don't need someone to tell me that uh, uh, that i'm worth something because i'm black or am I israelite No, my worth is found in christ and so that's where my trust is and guys There are a lot of channels out there that are doing the same thing Chris's channel excellent channel. I highly recommend you go there Proverbial life check it out alton johnson's Go there matter of fact, I was looking at one of the videos they were talking about before about About tongues. Yeah, I think you did like what two or three Would you do like two or three videos on on tongues just recently? So there are a lot of channels that I talked about dining reviews There are a lot of channels out there guys that I want you to be aware of Why because there's enough room out there for you to get your content It's not just one or two or three Channels that you ought to listen. I think you're listening a lot of them. So that being said guys Let's take a couple more questions and And then when you do I mean we're taking a couple more questions. We'll go ahead and get out of there So go to these channels again Subscribe to the channels. Um watch the content What happens is a lot of these channels don't get You can you can have a really really good video That doesn't get the views and youtube just doesn't push it out because how youtube youtube is trying to make themselves their own little tv program You all get that and so when you when you watch a video Like the video comment on the video share the video share it with yourself. I don't care, you know Just you can have a copy of it. Um, but also subscribe right and um So pastor gary, uh, I said he just subscribed make sure you guys go and go and check him out, right I'm always push somebody even if even if you disagree with me in some area theologically the guy that came on early we had the little debate Disagree with me made a video Uh jumping on me Okay, fine. I still wanted to push your channel. Of course now I had to get back at him, but anyway um Okay, I think she's asked this question a couple times. So do you think We shouldn't live by the dietary laws You want to handle it chris? Yeah, my my position is um I so I'll answer this uh in one a few ways, uh it's not Let me do it this first way. Um, I don't personally believe uh, I believe that's going back to the uh old redemptive or old covenantal system Uh, but if you want to not eat pork, it's not a sin But it's it's not a sin also to eat pork. Um god Jesus said he made all things clean I mean, it's very clear in the text. Um I would I would I would uh ascribe to being as healthy as you can But just because you hit eat bacon don't mean not healthy But just because you don't eat bacon don't mean you are healthy. And so, um There's no requirement in the new covenant to eat a certain way the The all I believe many of the old testament principles were pointing to a typological understanding Like I said, some people may disagree with me on that. That's fine. We could we have those discussions in christian love and you know fried pork chops mother-in-gravy Only one though. Don't have too many of those See don't don't in excess don't don't be accessing the good stuff that the lord made, you know It's good. And if you have it with thanksgiving, but two or three of those. I don't know, you know But uh in moderation, you know, all things are fine. I believe and so, um One of the first one I want to have a discussion about that one of the first days that we did I remember a professor saying this we were going over um Leviticus and Deuteronomy we were going over over the the quote boring books, right? All right one as chris said there is no commandment for us gentiles now if you Hebrew is Hebrew-Israelite well then There you go, but Do you know why I have some of these dietary rules from the old commandment The old covenant well remember the customs of the day and remember what he said he said he didn't he didn't necessarily call these animal Unclean says it is unclean to you. Why? here's why Let's say, uh, I'm i'm i'm jewish and chris is Let's say he's a pagan Well, what was the the understanding about Having someone over for dinner. What are you doing? You're giving approval of their lifestyle and their god So if I go to his house, he's got these pagan idols and so forth Well, then you know if they're gonna think about me that I must support that that i'm good with that And so I can't go to his house. Why because he eats pig feet He eats camel camel feet, right and an ostrich tail whatever but He would have but if we're going to eat and we're friends He's got to come to my house And observe my dietary rules, but he's also going to observe and see and get out get get get up close and personal with my god Because it wasn't like hi today. We didn't just they didn't just invite folks over. Hey, listen We're gonna watch the game night. We want to watch the game tonight. No, uh, it meant something Not like today, but back then it actually meant something someone coming and sharing at your dinner table So god wanted to keep this separation between what the world was doing what he's having them do Of course granted they they they messed up often in more than just the dietary laws, but again He does not he does not give a commandment for us going forward So and then we see peter eating the pork chop sandwich with the jews and paul and the guys show up and he pulls back And then what does paul do paul confronts him to his to his face some of you guys got some nasty, um Ox tail soup. Oh my god. Wow. That's uh Mmm, you know what you can't do you can't like it, but I ain't eating pig feet man I wouldn't either but listen. Yeah, I saw a guy eating cow tongue and That's just uh, she said yucky pig feet. Yeah, but now chitlins. There you go So anyway, um Guys, I want to thank you so much neck bones. I'm starting to get on to the neck bones, mr. K But Pig whoa That's the uh Tree of life might have to ban you for bringing that one up pig Pigs. Oh, you know, you're right. You know, I'm sorry. They do eat pigs new. Yeah, people do eat pigs new. They do. I'm sorry Disgusting but um Because this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna start talking about animal food now. Um What all I can say this uh is this cow tongue For our important if we're gonna be here all day on this cow feet um Guys, oh, oh Robert you were asking about earlier about the um about the greek. Do me a favor. Can you send me an email? Um, either I'll I'll respond to you an email about about the greek pronunciation Or if you want me to do it in the next, um q&a video, um, I'll do so But anyway guys, I want to thank you for your uh for your time. I want to thank chris also Oh guys, I got a special guest coming. I gotta I work on it right now You all are gonna I promise you not all of you, but most of you guys You all who love the lord Um, you're going to love this guest coming up chris. You're gonna like this guest. I know if ends but about it Um, so I'm trying to work out the details. It's gonna happen. Not sure exactly how soon Um, this person has a very busy schedule himself I'm not gonna say his name if I did you guys will be waiting on the uh on the live stream channel At this moment, you'd be like waiting waiting waiting. I got a good one coming So anyway, nothing why I didn't have a good one today because I really do appreciate this young brother 31 right You said you're 31. Can you hear me? Yes 31. Okay. Yeah, so um Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. I can hear you now 31 and uh loves the lord. Okay, hold on. All you need. Jesus. Hold on my brother Let me see he says put my comment on the screen. I gotta go find your comment All you need I'll put them on the on the thing while I'm um Don't go on it. How do I do this all? Okay Oh, whatever comment your Israelites are crazy. Amen Um, so anyway guys, thank you so much chris. Thank you as well guys Remember to go to his channel and subscribe Um and support every other youtube channel that I mentioned as well. Amen. Amen