 Llyfrin, y byddwn i ddweud y Gwyrwyr yn ymddiad yma ar hynod y byddai'r ysgrifnegol a'r ymddiad. Llyfrin yn ei ddweud y bydd y byddol ar y dyfodol yn cymdeithasol yma, ac mae'r ysgrifegau gwirionedd yn y ddylogodd ar y cyfan yma ymgynghoriad hynny, a'r ysgrifegau gwirionedd ar y Stryd Paeth yn Obujag. Mae Llyfrin yn gymdeithasol yn y ddweud cyffredinol ar y Nigirion. Y bohari's assessment comes on the heels of criticisms from the opposition parties accusing his administration of poor handling of security challenges and the economy. The president, however, said his over seven-year reign had not been without tremendous successes in areas of agriculture, economics, infrastructure, security, health and anti-corruption, with over 3,800 kilometres of new roads built throughout the nation. Now, on the aspect of the economy, he restated that the country had witnessed seven consecutive courses of growth after negative growth rates recorded in the second and third courses of 2020. Joining us live to discuss this is Sheaw Musa Gabam. He is the national chairman of the Social Democratic Party, SDP. Thank you so much, Mr Gabam, for joining us. Mr Gabam, you've been in the political scene for a very long time. You obviously have been there from the beginning of Mr President's reign in 2015, up until now. You obviously live in this country. You have seen the trajectory of whether growth or retrogression of this government. So I'll start by saying Mr President has said that he has done a lot, especially on high impact projects. Do you agree and what are some of these projects that you can attest to if there be any? I've been to Kano, from Kano to Jigawa, and I can tell you, without fear of any contradiction, is one of the worst roads any human being can fly to. The poth halls are terrible. I've never seen this kind of terrible damage federal roads like what I've gone through in the last two weeks. I heard about it separately, but I witnessed it firsthand. I went through it. It was unbearable for any decent human being. Number two, if you go to the south, actually there is not any road that this government have embarked upon and have completed, including Ibadun Legos express roads. The road that is ongoing from Abuja, Awkwanga, and so on and so forth is still uncompleted. Now, if you are talking about infrastructure, I believe road is one of them, which is critical for citizens, for movement, for convenient movement of goods and services, and so on and so forth. In terms of roads, projects, I don't know how this government can score itself excellent or even good. It is bad and it's remained very bad so far. What I see till the end of the administration possibly is likely they might complete the road. The sofa is very bad. I witnessed it. I flagged the road. I know what it is. Now, in terms of other projects like the railway, I think so far it is only Legos, Ibadun, rail that are working, and I heard there is one between Inugu or somewhere that is functioned. But the road from south is cut off. People cannot fly. I had a workshop last week. People couldn't come to Abuja because they need a railway to come down to Abuja. The road movements are close to impossible. Apart from the kidnapping insecurity and so on and so forth, the road cannot, you know, the road is a passion, absolutely passion. And the President knows this. His ministers knows this. Every Nigerian knows this. So I don't know why a government should score itself in something that can be assessed physically. It is not as if it is invisible projects. These are visible projects. These are seeable projects. So for me, it is OK for the government to write itself that if you ask every Nigerian based on your grassland locations, they will tell you no, it is not right. In terms of agriculture, I haven't seen it. Actually people are sleeping without eating in most of the day. If they eat in the morning, it is hardly for them to eat in the afternoon or in the night. As somebody who buys food for orphans, I have more than 30 orphans that I take care of, I can tell that. I go to market, I buy food, I know the cost of things. And if the timing they are talking about the rice, which they have said that they have a habit in surplus, the cost of rice has not dropped, rather it has gone higher. So either way, I don't know how anybody can say that you have achieved a landmark in agriculture, whether we have food supplied at a sufficient in the country, given the boundary, given the level of destruction of food talks with the people in the villages that have farmed their food. And right now, we are having a lot of flood all over the place that have consumed a lot of farm land. So, so on and so forth. For me, I haven't seen that, but it is OK for the government to write themselves. Normally, you know, government will scold themselves very low, they have felt a lot of human endeavour in terms of security. I don't need to speak about that. I believe the government can also say that they have felt in terms of security. Yes, there is an attempt now to restore law and order, but it is still meant to be seen. It is not very effective as expected, but there is an attempt to restore normalcy around areas that are highly security vulnerable. Many people would say that maybe because you are a member of an opposition party, you are on the SDP, you probably might not see what the president is seeing. But I would like to give you some background to some of the projects that the president is making reference to. Let me just say, he talks about some of the notable achievements to include the completion of the 326 kilometre Itaque Ajaucuta Warri rail line and railway and silvery facilities. The completion of over 156.5 kilometres Lagos Ibadon standard gauge railway modernisation project with extension to Lagos Pot and Apapah. He goes on to talk about road projects in the administration which have been constructed, they constructed about 408 kilometres of roads, 2,499 kilometres of Sukuk roads and maintenance of 15,961 kilometres of roads across the country. They talked about key projects like the Niger Link Bridge, Anambara and Delta States with 10.30 kilometres road approaching their approach road. Now they also talked about the rehabilitation and construction of the Lagos Ibadon dual carriage. Then they talked about the ongoing rehabilitation of the Abuja Kaduna Zaria Khanu road among others. Now you're saying to me that these roads that you've been plying and some people you know have been plying are not good, but this is what the government is telling us. So maybe the government is using a different road and you're probably using a different one. Is that what it is? More of this project that you have mentioned is the same thing I have said that they are not completed project at all. You mentioned Kaduna Abuja Road, idea you tomorrow fly that road and you will tell a different story as a journalist. Most of the project they have mentioned they have not been completed, they are ongoing project and I believe if you complete a project that you can talk about a project. Some of this road project they inherited it from PDP government and they are completing it, which is okay, the railway, one or two of them have been completed. The Abuja Kaduna Road has been completed, the train we are flying before the bomb that interrupted the railway movement. So most of the other areas they are talking about there was nothing as if the project has been complete, the road is smooth, it's safe for anybody to fly the road. So if completion of project means that ongoing project, then that is a different thing entirely. I'm not being partisan in what I'm saying. I believe in national projects and once a national project is being completed, it's not for the benefit of either people in government or in opposition or outside opposition. It's for the benefit of the cities of Nigeria and of course to be in my own interest to appreciate the government for completing projects reducing the suffering of Nigeria. But I tell you that it is just two weeks ago I flew a Abuja and it's terrible and anybody who fly that road ask him, he will give you an accurate assessment of what I have given you. So yes, the project is ongoing but it's not completed, the suffering remains the same, nothing has changed. The delay remains the same, nothing has changed. Okay, let's move away from infrastructure. Let's talk about health. He made mention of the economy. He talked about COVID-19 and how many people have been vaccinated. He talked about the economy, which is something that I would want to dwell more on. But let's start by talking about the health sector. We've had in the past six months a total brain drain in the medical profession in this country. We're still seeing that happen every other day. Doctors, nurses, health walkers at every level fleeing this country to countries even like Saudi Arabia were seeing them in the UK walking in the NHS. So again, let's talk about the health sector and what this government has been able to do and then of course we'll pivot to the economy. Well, and then of the health sector, I believe that this government has injected some of the sources to rehabilitate the health sector. They keep some of the hospitals in Nigeria even if it is based on regional basis to produce one of the best hospitals that can serve as a referral hospital in the country that would have saved some of the situations Nigerians are going through. But even the state house clinic that's supposed to pay maximum attention to the president himself, the president travel after medical attention. So I don't know how anybody can make any suggestion in any way or manner that there's an improvement in our health sector. If you visit virtually every hospital I live in Abuja, visit every general hospital in Abuja. You will see the story is very, very pathetic. I've been visiting hospitals, I've been seeing patients in my relative friends that are in the hospital. If you go to any government hospital, you will shed tears with the kind of management, the public relations, the attention of the doctors, the equipment they are using. Then for me, I feel that maybe it's either the president have been wrongly briefed by the ministers in charge of the health sector that there's great improvement if there is what are the facilities that have been installed. These are clear things that can be seen. These are physical equipments that have to do with the management of health of an individual. So in the absence of having that, and in the absence of having a government hospital that you can classify as not even the very best on the average, that can immediately attend to people health challenges. You can say, yes, these are effort. The last hospital that I can tell you that have been equipped fully or not fully, but a reasonable answer you can talk about was to read Ubers on your side. When I was the minister of FCT, for example, all the general hospitals in Abuja were fully regigled, re-equipped, reorganized, reclaimed, if we enter general hospitals. So plus politics, we still have with us the national chairman of the Social Democratic Party, SDP Shayw Musa Gaba. Musa Gaba, before we went on the break, you were just trying to wrap up your thoughts on what's happening in the health sector. But quickly, let's quickly go to the economy. And I want to mostly talk about the oil theft that we have had to witness over the past few months, the alarm that was raised. And now, of course, the billion-dollar contract that was awarded to Tom Polo and the very interesting revelations that have been made by Tom Polo. And we also saw the destruction by the army and the lack of investigation in that area. Let's also not forget that Mr President sits as the minister of petroleum in this country. And this has one way or the other affected the economy. Don't forget that OPEC has also decided to reduce the output in terms of oil production. So, again, these are all of some of the factors that are affecting our economy. But how well has Mr President done because he gave himself a pass mark in that department? Well, as I'm talking to the oil casting, the oil casting in Abuja, I don't know what that part of the country. But I know that the oil capture authority now that IQ is virtually everywhere. That's number one. Number two, the oil delivery in Nigeria has been unprecedented in the history of this country. And it's not as if the security agencies are not aware or the intelligence agencies are not aware. It's the conspiracy of people that are in government who are the security agencies that led to this kind of very terrible way of grounding the economy. Few individuals were given a leverage or opportunity to loot the country unchecked on hinders. Otherwise, nobody on earth can convince me that the level of treeryy of our oil in connivance with foreign partners that our intelligence agencies are not aware. Most of the oil sectors or areas are being monitored by security agencies. The Navy, the Air Force and the Army. Another security agencies and so on and so forth. It is absolutely impossible as somebody who has worked in government for anybody to convince me that the security agencies are not aware of this. Or the government officials are not aware, or the NNPC are not aware of this. I have heard the MD of NNPC saying clearly that government officials, religious leaders are involved and security agencies are involved in the Caterham. He mentioned it himself. So if it is an indictment, the MD of NNPP have indicted the President, the President and the Minister of Petroleum. And the President have not as understood himself so far. I heard the MD of NNPP yesterday clearly saying that the level of treeryy have reduced. They are not in control of most of the crime and criminality sector of the oil pipeline and so on and so forth. Was it that they are not aware until alarm was raised? Is that the level that we have attended to as a nation? And the President, the Minister of Petroleum, is accountable to that sector apart from the subsidy, the so-called subsidy to which the President himself, when he was campaigning, he said there was not a last subsidy in Nigeria. He said everything is fraud. Yet that fraud has not been established. Yet the people are taking away the subsidy. Yet the economy is going down. The purchasing power of Nigeria has gone close to zero left. Inventors are leaving the country. So I believe the Minister, the President himself, who is the Minister of Petroleum, knows exactly what the truth is. There is no remittance to the federal government account at all. None. The country is rooted by the grace of God. Period. Period. And that's it. Well, Mr Gabam, I wish that time was on our side to continue this conversation, but I must appreciate you for being part of the conversation. Shayw Mosa Gabam is the National Chairman of the SDP. Unfortunately, connections did not let us have the best of time. But thank you so much for being here. Thank you. All right. Well, that's it on the show tonight. But before I go, I would like to give you my take before we say goodbye. Stay with us. Whether it's smoke, the singles, election, if nothing else, serves as a test of our capacity for good judgment. Now, the electorate is made up of three main types of voters. There is the psychopath, too drunk on a cult personality, falling through the haze of self-serving lies. This statistician is the second who complies, you know, or compiles information and facts to justify their long-held choice in a candidate. And the last but never the least is the emotional voter, the one who's certain beyond any logical argument that they are presented with, that their instinctive choice is the right choice. Now, that is the interesting thing about elections. Our choices are completely down to our impulses. No matter how much homework that, you know, we do to inform our choice, we cannot sometimes control the candidates. The process is as much a role of the dice for us in that, that our chosen candidate will do as he or she has promised, you know, if what the said candidate said he will do, so that he will win his race. Now, so while as individuals the power we have over our outcome is limited, what is still and always till the very last minute before we cast our vote is our choice. In every relationship that ends badly, the end is never truly unforeseen. The red flags line, you know, they align the road towards that end. We just have to be willing to see it. So when a candidate for one party publicly without regard, you know, for our parents of their actions, supporting candidates from an opposition party, that is definitely a burning red flag, bellowing red smoke, as clear as day. Well, make of that what you will. I'm Mary Anacone. Have a good evening.