 It's allowing me to go deeper into this question. Like what is that? What is it that we're transcending? What it? you know it Where are we going and it seems to me, you know, I've talked about this before that we're we're always in the middle You know, like we think about people 400 years ago. We talked a lot of skeptic go about the the sort of Denouncing the ridiculous dopey materialism that formulated three 400 years ago But we think about the people before that and how ridiculous and silly they were And yet we think we haven't figured out now and we have to have the humility to know that in 400 years People in the future gonna look at us and just think how silly and stupid we were for the things we didn't believe There's a humility in that and that we're we are moving towards something and yet We don't know where and so so there's this idea that we're always in the middle So we're always in motion, but we don't really know where we're gonna get to and we're gonna die without ever having Get that gotten there at least as far as we know here in the physical sense So so when I so that the word transcend when we pick that word It came with this question and I think that's the thing that's it That's a joy that's a joy for me because I love digging into these questions And that's where I'm left with with transcend now my goal for people is transformation To help them change and grow in whatever form that means for them, but really Transcend is my that's my question. That's like my that's that's very personal to me Whereas transformation is sort of the the professional goal of the project to help people have a transformative experience You know, I absolutely love this idea of we're always in the middle and the first time I heard that from you We're walking on the beach in Del Mar, and I was like man. I gotta write that down and use that I think I might paste it into this video presentation because it's so Powerful on a lot of different levels and in the way that you talked about it just terms of Pragmatically through history, but obviously you're also tapping into the deeper personal spiritual Understanding of hey man, we're never we're never gonna get there We never really are away from where we came. We're always in the middle. You know, I think that's that's really cool