 The whole thing with Web3, Blockchain Gaming, I'm getting my feet wet and I kind of understand what's going on, but I have a lot to learn. When I have a lot to learn, I lean on experts and that's why I called my friend yet again, crypto stash. Stash, welcome back for your third visit. What's going on, man? Hey, you know, it's always really great to be here. I have a great time talking to you, man. There's a lot of people that ask me to come on shows to talk about this stuff and yours is one of my favorites. Yes, and you always say yes, so I appreciate you. And I don't, I only have to pay you 250,000 to get on here like Gallup. That's true. I'm cheap, man. I come cheap, but you know what? Hey, it's not just you, Rob. It's not just you. It's also, I like your community actually. You know, it seems like you have a community of very level-headed, open-minded people who are not just a bunch of moonboys, like they actually are intellectual and I like that. I appreciate that. Yeah, well, I mean, this is, well, great segue. So this is the questions. And of course, my group is just kind of getting into, we're talking about gaming. We know it's going to be big, but we know there's some pitfalls. So there's three questions for you today, young man, which I'm going to break it down to the investor, the individual and the skeptic. So the first one with the investor, I always talk about this, but I want to hear it from the horses now. Why is blockchain gaming going to lead the next crypto bull run? The next one's for the individual. Why should people play games in the first place? Because, you know, I mean, people play games, they should they really be playing games, they're investing into it. The last one is a skeptic. What could actually derail blockchain gaming? And before we get into those sweet, beautiful questions that I just asked, just a little recap of what Stash is all about. First of all, I don't know if you're into gaming, but if you're into whiskey bourbon, this guy's got your number. Also, yes, exactly. Also, if you're into music, he's got his own band. This was the last little session that you guys did. Pretty packed audience on a beach, I might say, very slick. It's fun. And of course, he's does some things on YouTube. I do it all, man. Look, I run the gamut, man. If you can't find something to like about me, then you're just you're just a curmudgeoning old bastard. That's right. We've got plenty of those on my channel, baby. Well, you know, because I'm a little bit of a curmudgeon old bastard myself. So look, so look, you let's go in. Hey, call us fade to spade. So actually, I like this video you did on the top 10 free mobile games. This is Wreck League. I actually minted an NFT for that, the two boxes. And we got a bet. And once we play this game, whoever wins has to buy shots to the next Bitcoin convention. I don't know if I can afford something like sweet like this, but I'll get you. I'll get you if I do lose. I don't think I'm gonna lose. And then all right, game on. That's what's up. Also, you did a really good review of Cornucopia is built on Cardano. I reached out to Josh and Rob, and those guys love you. So this was a pretty good video. And then the last video we did, actually, one video a year ago, you know, we had 119,000 views. Yeah, I mean, if you know what it is, I attribute it to how ridiculously good looking I am and this amazing mustache. But I mean, you were there too. I was credit. You could call me the side action, but whatever. And actually, actually, you live in infamy in my 100% free website, Dan teaches crypto. You're right below Yatsu, the founder of Anamoka Brands. It's about where I belong. So, Stash, let's get to it. Talk to us, the people who are learning about blockchain gaming. Why is this gonna be the next next big thing in crypto? Because we heard a lot. And I have my thesis, but what do you got, man? Blockchain gaming being the big thing here in this bull run. Why is it going to be, why is it gonna lead the way? You're right, this is a great question. People ask this all the time because you see people talking about that and saying it all the time. But maybe they don't really explain it. I don't get it. But really what it comes down to is when you look at the technology and the way that it can interact with existing things that we like in our life, NFTs and blockchain technology are particularly aligned with gaming and game development. Number one, gamers are already familiar with digital assets. Most people, like that's one of the biggest ones, right? So when you talk about why, because most people today, they don't value digital anything. When you say digital something, they don't, there's no value to them. So you can say, oh, I have this digital one and they're like, that's just, there's no value there. No one cares. But you understand, but the gamers understand that digital items do have value and they can be valuable. And I think that that is one of the easiest ways to be able to transition people from what we have now, the systems we currently have into using blockchain technology and NFTs. And gaming is the most right for that. There's enough use cases there and enough we'll say user, the term, and as much as gamers right now are like, no, NFTs are a scam, they still understand that digital assets have value. You see these CSGO skins being traded for hundreds of thousands of dollars. And really, in NFT is not that much different. It's just the system that is tracking these things is more transparent, a little bit more open. And that is a system I think a lot of people can appreciate in gamers in particular. So that's that's number one. I would say that's the biggest thing is because gamers understand that digital assets have value. Okay, so with that one, I will say like this, this is this is a question that I posed in my community. And I said, we took a look at ownership. We take a look at physical ownership. And this is what I I got this idea from Yatsu from Mademouca Brands. We've been conditioned for so long for physical ownership, like movies, music and games, right? Remember those days when we have like VHS and DVD, you own that music tapes in my hand. It's in my hand. I own a games. And it was it was a foregone conclusion that you actually own that. But once we got into the digital part, it seems like it has kind of won away like movies. No one owns movies anymore. No one's got a big DVD collection music. It's all on Google Play and Apple. And then the games are, you know, you could be Fortnite, you could be Google Play, Apple Play, App Store, but that's like that's like the mobile game. So like when we talk about these things, as far as like what we just said, the actual digital version, we should be able to to have that ownership and do what we want. But I will say, and some of my brothers asked me, they go, but Robbie, you don't understand because like there's some things that we don't own. And it's just easier for us. Like some people say, I don't want to own a car. I want to lease a car because it's just easier to do that. And some people would say, you know what, I don't want to deal with like buying CDs or DVDs anymore. I can just stream it. That's a great point for those people. It works out great. But I think for other people who want to own things and having their possession and say, I want digital ownership. And it's what George Washington actually talked about. He said, without ownership, there is no freedoms. So like when you talk about these things, like I get it, but it's just hard for people to understand because for so long, digital property, we have no ownership of that. That's just for the centralized players. But shouldn't we have the option that should not have the option like, okay, okay, is it easier to have Spotify instead of curating your own like personal mp3 collection? Of course it can be easier. I actually appreciate doing that though. And so I want the option. I think we should have the option. We shouldn't say, okay, now that everything's digital, we're taking all that ownership back from you guys, you get nothing and you're going to love it. And I'm not a big fan of that. I'm not a big fan of that. So I mean, maybe some people are, a lot of people are, but I think the people who understand this technology can benefit them. And in gaming, I think that's a lot of those people, when they really understand the power that NFTs and blockchain technology can bring to game development, it's just another tool on top of what we already have, like great tools like Unreal Engine or Unity or what we're seeing right now with AI being incorporated into games like higher level AI, not just the basics we've been dealing with for many years here. Exactly. So like, so we're in agreement here, people can do what they want. There's this other subset of they say, you know, I want to do this, but there's other people that we get the option. We can kind of dictate where things are going and then like say like like a DAO or a gaming guild and kind of move from that. You can take those NFTs, you can rent them out, you can sell them, you can push them out, you can stake them, whatever you want or not stake them, but you can actually do those things. I think that's the more important thing. So great. So we understand that this is potentially could lead it for the next piece. Now let's get into this part. Whoa, I had a number two for that one. Oh, I'm sorry. I'll make this one short. I'll make this one short. The second part of that. Keep going, Stash. Keep going, Stash. The second part of that, right, of why is gaming going to lead the next crypto bull run? It's because of timing and game development cycles, right? So in this last bull run, there were no games really at a point that were really good enough to say, oh man, this is an amazing game that people outside of web three outside of crypto would want to play, but we are fast approaching the day here when a bull run is going to return. And there are many, many games that have been developed for the last two, three, four years that are going to be launching around the time this next bull run hits in 2024, maybe going into early 2025, depending on where we see the cycle. And if we're going to see a little bit of a lag like we usually do after the happening about a year or so later, when we really, you know, traditionally see that run up, but you know, there'll be some hype cycle before the happening, of course, too. But that is the other one is the cycle, the timing of this is just, it's working out really perfect. Yeah. And you know what, that would be back to that Wreck League that we just took a look at. That's, that's coming out, I think in a three weeks, right? Two or three weeks. Yeah, the first iteration, yep, the very first playable, you know, iteration of that game is going to be out here in just a few weeks. Yeah. And another good thing I like about that is it's going to be free to play on a mobile, but if you want to do the NFT thing, so it's like the best of both worlds, it marries it. And then like, I see stuff like this, I saw you play this game, my pet hooligan, I asked you about this one. Yes, it's super fun and it's almost ready to go. And this is like, would you say this is like a AAA type game? Oh yeah, a hundred percent, man. I mean, when you talk about the level of graphics and gameplay and like, when you say, well, what is AAA? AMGI Studios, the developers of my pet hooligan are right there. I mean, these guys are doing next level stuff. They're not just developing a game. They're developing a whole IP. They have a movie that is they're working on right now to a full length feature film animated movie. You know, these guys are in Hollywood, man. These guys are not messing around. I've been to their motion capture studio. I've seen their entire operation. It's going to be fun. Everything they're doing is top tier, man. It really is. And to boot, it is a fun game that everybody can play. I mean, I could see, you know, young kids playing this too. You know, my 13, I could see her jumping in this. You know, I could see tons of younger kids playing this game too. So appeal to a white audience, which I love. I can see that. And everybody, I know everybody's like, what? Tell me more. I will link all these things that me and Stash are talking about. And of course, Stash's channel where if you're going to want to get some really good alpha for that type of stuff, go over to his channel and check it out. Okay, Stash, before I move on, did we miss anything on that piece before I move on to the individual? I think those are the two biggest things. When you really want to know why Crypto Gaming will lead the next bull run, I think those are the two biggest factors of why that it's going to lead. There's other things in and out there, you know, the smaller stuff, but those are the two big ones. Okay. So you talked about the 13 year old daughter and about people playing. So this would go to the individual because I personally believe that everybody should, if you're going to invest in something, you should know as much about it as you possibly can. 100%. So as far as the individual goes, people watching this video right now, besides what I saw, but why should people play games in the first place? Is there any other good reason besides just knowing it or you got something else? That's a great question, Rob. You know, I'm going to answer that in another two part. Number one, you know, should you play games? I mean, they're fun. Sure. Why not? I think a lot of people play games in one respect or another. You know, there's a very large spectrum of what gaming is. But the biggest one really is like, well, you know, why should they do it? You know, if you are, I mean, hey, have you, okay, we're going to roll back. Do your own research. I'm sure you tell your people this all the time as much as it's great to listen to Rob's opinion into my opinion, talking about the coins, talking about what's going on in the industry. You still want to do your own research, right? Right. And if you're not, I'm sorry, but you should be. And so this is part of that, right? When you talk about doing research on an investment opportunity, if you were doing research on any other type of investment vehicle, you would be fully committed to doing that. And if you're looking to invest in gaming, playing the actual game or being, you know, checking out the community is actually going to benefit you and give you that insight that most people who are not doing that are going to get. And so that gives you an advantage, right? You think about that. It will give you an advantage over the people who are too lazy to jump in and find out if that game is actually good or if it has potential versus just listening to a bunch of talking heads on Twitter and on YouTube or farming your engagement for those sweet, sweet Elon daddy, you know, ad revenues. So, you know, yeah. Okay. Perfect. So perfect. So like, there's that, I always see it like this, like you got to know, you got to be into it. Because if not, you're just going to say, Oh, well, someone said it, someone to buy it. And of course, like, where'd all my money go? And then the other big thing is like, like, you got kids, my kids are growing up when they were growing up, like, it's a way to connect with your kids. Now, honestly, a lot of so like a lot of people on my channel, statistically, you're looking at between 30 and 55 years old. So if you got kids or grandkids, and you're like, well, I want to play a way to connect, there's one reason. The second reason is, of course, the big reason what was that talked about other one is connection. The third thing is, like, just do it like, as far as like games go, my wife does it. She plays this game on pogo.com. It's 100% three. And there's other one called crazy games. 22 million users per month. Those guys are raking an end. And the reason is, is because it's just a way to be stressed. I don't know what about you stash, but I got a little stress in my life. And the people that are out there watching this video right now, maybe instead of worrying about drawing, you know, lines and saying, you know, is there a resistance here or the RSI, they just play a game every so often just to just to relax. I'm right there with you, man. You know, gaming can be stressful sometimes, you know, what level you're playing at. But in general, I think most people enjoy games to, yeah, de-stress, have fun, not have to be inside their own headspace. You're thinking about the game and not thinking about all the crazy things going on around you. And so, yeah, I think that there's multiple great reasons. You know, when you split it out, yeah, it's like when it comes down to as the investor, right? Well, what's the reason? Well, it's because you're going to get that advantage as just an individual. Why should you do it? Yeah. I mean, I think you're right. Great connections with kids or friends too. You know, you can say, hey, maybe I haven't seen my buddy. He lives far. We can't hang out that often. But we could game together and hang out together and talk about those things. And I think that's a great way to. Yeah, see, and there's, and let me just preface it with this, there's a huge difference between the games that that stash is going to is going to rule and play. And like some games like I'm going to play. And that's what's great about this, this, this community, there's all different types of it. If you want to do casual, hyper casual, triple A ranked gains and like super stuff. It all depends on what you want to do. Or if you're looking for de-stress, just follow the stash and I'll tell you like the right things to drink. So the last thing, the last question then stash, I know you got to get out of here. Got a nice little vacation coming up. The skeptic. We talked about the good stuff. We talked about why and the what's last one. What could derail this? Because let's be honest, nothing's guaranteed. So what could derail blockchain gaming from really leading off into the next scripted bull run? All right, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. You're wrong. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. All right, plan B. I mean, could something derail it, you know, possibly, but not for long. That's the thing, right? Sure, we've been derailed a bunch of times. You know, when you talk about the overall sentiment that traditional mainstream gaming has for NFTs is not very good. We got derailed by that, man. That was a big thing because, you know, once there's kind of a, in the gaming community, once there's kind of an idea established, a lot of people just kind of pick up on it. They don't care. They don't do research. You know, they're not like what we're doing. We're researching things. They just are gamers and they'll pick up on the same talking points and like, NFT bad. It's all a scam. And I'm like, yeah, you said that about free to play. You said that about subscription model. You said that about loot boxes. You said that, you know what I'm saying? I could keep going, man. Like, you know, and so they've said it every single time. So could we get derailed? Of course we could. I mean, I think one of the biggest ones is a pushback from retail investors, you know, mainstream, not investor, but retail gamers, yeah, mainstream, that pushback, right? You know, and other setbacks, anytime we see something large scale, like a hack where someone has lost a bunch of money or lost these assets. I think that's a very real, a very real setback that could be out there. Other than that, I really don't see, I mean, regulation obviously could be one, but I don't feel like regulators are really looking at this industry with that kind of magnifying glass at this point. They may be in the future, in particular when it comes to things like loot boxes, but we're already seeing, you know, this technology being accepted more and more every single day. There are chances it just, it won't derail for long. No. Well, it's just like crypto is inevitable. Crypto and blockchain is inevitable. And then just to speak on the last thing you just talked about, you know, as far as gaming, for there's a project that's going to be launching in the United States, and this will be September 12th. We already talked about this channel, but I talked to them, I'm not going to name them individually, but I said, are you guys sure you want to bring this to America? Because they launched it globally really well. Because with Gary Gensler, he goes, look, he goes, our legal counsel says like this, in 2024, 2025, we don't, we're not sure. We don't think that the current administration is going to be there. And even if they are, the SEC is looking at it like this, exchanges are up here, they're going to crack down on them. Then it's going to go to central as exchanges, and they got to go through all that stuff to get to the projects. And then our projects wait down here because it actually has utility. So for gaming, it's actually like utility tokens that actually do things as opposed to some of the other ones that I really can't speak for. So to me, I see you right on. Yeah. So the regulation, I think that's a far off thing. I mean, in general, their sweeping regulation for the entire industry is one thing. And we've seen a lot of tumultuous decisions being made here over the last year. I mean, it's just been nuts, man. It's been nuts. But gaming has been on phase. You look at some of the big winners here, even over the last month or a couple months here. Gaming also counter-trades a lot of times what's going on in the market. And I think we'll continue to see more of a decoupling of gaming projects from the general crypto narrative, where if something dumps, everything is done. We saw what was last week when they were like, hey, go on selling us Bitcoin and Evergrande, they're going under. And they dump everything. Even during that, we'll see gaming products maybe not dump as hard. But also, I think we could see a decorrelation there coming in the future too, man, just because of the fact that gamers don't care about a bear market in general. I mean, for the most part, gamers don't. The people who are gamers and financially focused, like myself and some others, that may be a factor. But for the most part, man, gamers just want to play and make games, hang out with their friends, play fun games. And that doesn't really, in particular, in down times, they probably actually game more. During COVID, we saw this a massive increase in gaming across the board globally. So I do think that where is there? There could be some pitfalls. I think that what we have set in motion here is big enough to weather those storms over time. Excellent response. See, Stash, this is why I have you on. Fantastic. I love it. So everybody, so as you know, you can find Stash. There's a link in the description. Check out his videos. There's a video for everybody about how to learn about Web3 blockchain gaming, the different games that are out there, and just the nuts and bolts behind it. So, Stash, I can't thank you enough. I appreciate you coming on. Always. Like I said, I love hanging out with you, taking some time to just really dive into the crypto gaming scene and give you a little bit of a taste of what I do. I do this every day. This is what I focus on every single day. So like Rob said, if you guys, whatever you're looking for, I got a little something there. For the people who are more gamers, I got more of that. We're hanging out. We're doing live streams. If you're looking for more technical stuff, I'm talking about the top coins that are going to be good. As a matter of fact, after I get back from vacation, I got a video coming out of my top 20 gaming focused tokens to be looking out for this next bull run that I think are going to be big. So that's going to be a hot one. Awesome. I will be watching that. So everybody, that's it for today. If you liked today's video, give it a thumbs up. Also consider subscribing. Everything that we and Stash talk about is time-sensitive. Well, that's it for today. 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