 Thank you for staying with us. We are now looking into a new technology that has been invented to help you, the farmer and you, the end consumer. We are looking into the e-dairy solutions. I'm speaking to Simon, he's the CEO of the dairy solutions, the Hopkins solutions. He will help us to know what does that mean and how the company has been able to move forward at the time they have been in operation. Good evening sir. Good evening. It's a pleasure to have you here. Thank you. I must say I am honored to have the best brains with me. Now there has been a problem in our country, most of us, majority of us, if not all, we have a problem of excellency in what we do. If I'm a farmer, I want to sell milk. I see I have 10 litres, but I want to make a profit of 15 litres. I end up kwekamaji and it has been like a problem to every other sector. We have a way of doctoring producers to make sure we get more profit on a road deal. Now, tell us about the new innovation that you have come up with to help the farmer if the milk has a problem to selling to someone else or if I'm the consumer. How am I benefiting from this new technology? Thank you very much. Upking solutions, just to say something small about it is a software development company and we provide different solutions from ERP solutions that completely run all the affairs of an organization to small individual components of solutions. Our major solutions is a Microsoft technology, Microsoft Dynamics Business Central that is formerly known as Navision. We looked at the market and you see the market has a lot of components and we realized that the agriculture bit is currently straining if my grandmother can receive money in MPSA and interpret that there is money and go and withdraw it then she should be in a position to receive information about agriculture her farming needs to be structured she needs to receive information that is relevant on what she does but most importantly when she actually gets a product out of the process the return needs to be. You find traditionally farmers take their milk to dairy cooperatives or the processing companies and at the end of the month there is a lot of back and forth even in terms of the amount of milk applied because this has to translate into the amount that gets to you so you find sometimes even in the recording the farmer is illiterate as a person may not be aware of a lot of things that are being written, the manual writing you supplied 15 liters by the recorded 10 so at the end of the month if it is consistent daily then there is a lot of loss so we came up with a solution, the E-dairy so this E-dairy is a solution that is now helping the small dairy cooperatives or the big dairy farms where we have a solution that runs the processing but then we have a mobile solution that we have an app within a gadget that has a printer like you see for the kanjo when you pay parking in some cities you pay there and it prints for you the ticket so you would go there with a digital weighing scale you weigh the farmer's milk it automatically reads from the scale submit, the only thing you do because all these farmers are also registered with these cooperatives so you pick just the farmer number it will give you the detail the weighing is done there, it stabilizes you just submit and it submits directly onto the system so when you submit it prints a receipt from the system that you live with the farmer so the farmer will automatically easily have their own daily record that does not have any manual intervention or manual writing and also at the end of the month when we run the farmer's payroll it also gives the same information in an SMS to the farmer back so the farmer even without visiting the farm or the cooperative will be in a position to validate from the receipt that they already have this also gives them an opportunity to now engage with the farmer more conclusively because there are some farmers who may not even be in a position to buy a few daily products so in the case of cooperatives you even give them but structurally we are able to recover this money when you run now their payroll and they are able to receive the deduction on their SMS confirming that if it is food, if it is foliage, whatever it is you took for this amount and this is the deduction but I have a question from my house I may have measured say 20 litres they have their own scale I am confident that my and I am certain truly I have 20 litres but when I get to the dairy they will say it is 18, it is 17 is your machine workable to favor the farmer or it will work according to the dairy majorly the standard scale actually we use Bluetooth enabled scale because this device actually reads the reading on that scale electronically from the dealer exactly, the milk collection team move with the scale, it's a small scale which has been manipulated the digital states that nowadays it may not be easy to manipulate I am asking because even in the butcheries we get cheated we get cheated and you end up getting the road deal that may be a challenge that is a problem that we have not encountered I have never had a case where there is a problem with the scale most of these scales come already programmed and standardized so there is no test setting internally of how the scale will do the weighing so that bit is the scale is consumed the way it is so it completely eliminates but again there would not be a reason for the person doing collections to manipulate the scale because it does not benefit them because the information once it is read it is submitted so it will just be a report that everyone consumes so there is no need of even a cooperative collectively agreeing to interfere with the scale to benefit everyone to benefit it as a cooperative and injure the farmer because these cooperatives or these farms have an interest to ensure that the farmer survives the farmer is able to continue farming so the major problem has been from the collection team you find the collection team they collude as themselves make small erroneous records then benefit from or they collude with the farmer and say for your collections every day if you give 5 we will record for you 15 but you give me that money at the end of the month we share it such kind of situations now in the interest of time now that your innovation is interfering with an existing business of aduping farmers how has been the reception how have you encountered the challenges collectively I would say the management of these cooperatives and milk processing farms need accountability because this is a process of middlemen in between so if it is easy to challenge something that give room for doubt but when collectively the profit comes out strong there is no way someone in between will convince the management that they cannot use this process also as part of this innovation that we are doing we are also giving the farmers the farmers that are able to have smartphones they also have these apps where we do like the practices also vary with the location of the farmer there is a farmer in Meiru and there is a farmer in Kitale there is how there is a variation on how they need to treat their livestock the daily practice so we also have information on how to handle the first aid what to do when you observe specific behavior from your from your your day recall what you need to first do so it empowers the farmer first even before they come into now they are the automatic process and again from this app also they are able to look at their statements from the dairy they can even print their last tier pays lip it's helping farmers in having good record of their production and it has ended some cartels if I could say and that's a good thing I would have loved us to continue there are so many things we need to know as far as these technologies of concern but apparently we are out of time maybe we can organize some other time to get more of this idea and look into it maybe your final words my final word is because the financial sector has completely gone digital we can also go digital we can go digital with agriculture let us think outside of the contemporary processes and look at things and get the solution at Appkins Solutions Limited we have the solution just have a discussion with us and we'll be able to be of help alright thank you so much for coming and highlighting and helping the young people even to know they still have the potential to come up with ideas for the society at large he has been my guest Simon Okor CEO of Appkins Solutions and I'll be seeing you again next week on Monday until then have yourself a very good evening and the rest of the week may it be awesome for you my name is Nereva Hilavi goodbye