 All right. I think we're going to get our meeting started this evening. So we are on schedule to start it at six o'clock. We're at 601. So I want to, first of all, welcome and thank everyone for joining us tonight for the community input meeting. So I am Nancy Adams and I work for the city of Santa Rosa transportation and public worst department as the transportation planner. And tonight we're going to be having interpretation services for the meeting and that is going to be provided by Kim tell us with the W trans. And the live interpretation can be heard on the Spanish channel, and you can join the Spanish channel by clicking on the interpretation icon in the zoom toolbar that's on your screen that looks like a globe. And Kim will talk a little bit more about that. When she discusses the translation element of the community meeting. I will now ask our host tonight, who is Steve Brown and he's also with the city of Santa Rosa and our translator Kim with W trans to explain how our meeting will work tonight. Thank you, Steve and Kim please. Bienvenidos y gracias por acompañarnos en esta reunión de la comunidad sobre el proyecto de mejoramiento para ciclistas y platones. Ella es Nancy Adams, la planificadora de transporte de la ciudad de Santa Rosa. Thank you. Steve, would you like to explain to the attendees about how the meeting works and yes, like, please. And next slide please. All right, thank you, Nancy. So as members of the public join the meeting, you'll be participating as an attendee. Your microphone and camera will be muted. Only today's panelists will be viewed during the meeting. If you're calling from a telephone and choose to speak during the public question and answer portion of today's meeting. For privacy concerns as host, I will be renaming your viewable phone number to citizen with the last four digits of your phone number. Please know the city of Santa Rosa is committed to creating a safe and inclusive environment free from disruption. We will not tolerate any hateful speech or actions and will monitor that everyone is participating respectfully, or they will be removed. If necessary, we will also immediately end the meeting. We will start the presentation with an overview of the corridor study, including improvement design concepts as zoom host, I will be lowering all raised hands until the question and answer portion of the meeting is open. At the end of the presentation, the meeting facilitator will open up the meeting for public questions and comment. The facilitator has called for public questions or comments. As host, I will announce for the public to raise their hand, if they wish to ask a question or comment related to this presentation. If you're calling in to listen to the meeting by telephone, you can dial star nine to raise your hand as host, I will then call on the public one by one, who have their zoom hands raised. Raise your hand and asked your question, or shared your input. As host, I will lower your hand and mute your microphone. So our panelists may respond to your question. Nancy. Thank you Steve for highlighting the public participation instructions for tonight's meeting. And if I could have the next slide please. So, at this time I'd like to introduce tonight's participants from the city of Santa Rosa, and project consultants from W trans. From the city of Santa Rosa transportation and public works department. We have Rob sprinkle deputy director of traffic engineering. And from W trans we have Steve Weinberger and Barry Bergman, who will present concept designs for your consideration on improvements to stony point road. And then we have Steve Brown, who is our host for tonight's meeting, along with Mary Lou Nichols, who was serving as our co host, both from city of Santa Rosa and they'll help us coordinate the questions and answer portion of our meeting. And then lastly, introducing again Kim tell us with W trans and she's providing our Spanish translation so so thank you for that tonight. So we're going to start the meeting tonight with an overview of the quarter study with some proposed concept designs, followed by public questions and comments. And I think the presentation is about 2025 minutes. And then we'll open it up for questions and comments for the participants here on the zoom meeting with us tonight. Now turn the meeting over to Steve Weinberger and Barry Bergman with W trans to begin the presentation. Okay, thank you Nancy. Again I'm Steve Weinberger senior principal with W trans from Santa Rosa, and I'll be passing it to Barry Bergman for the first part of the presentation to give you a background on our study corridor that we're addressing. And then Barry will pass it on to me for, we're going to give you a little tour of our initial design draft design that we've done to get your input on. And throughout the meeting here there's going to be some inner breaks for some quick polls that will ask you to fill out and we'll give some instantaneous response from that so very go ahead. Next slide please Steve. Okay, thanks Steve. So this is the study corridor, and note that the map is turned in an unconventional direction left is to the north, Santa Rosa's at the top so basketball is down so that's route 12 going to the middle and stone away road going left to right throughout there. Next slide please. So this is the study corridor. Next slide please. So here just, we broken it down to three different segments. We have West 3rd Street on the left side of the screen. So sex segment ones from West 3rd Street up to Highway 12. The bridge over Highway 12 is segment two, and then segment three is from the ramps and the juridota trail on the, on the south side of Highway 12 down to the west of the West pole road. Next slide please. Next slide please. Okay, so I'm starting for the stony point road carter has been identified by the city as a high priority, the bicycle pedestrian master plan update that was completed in 2018 selected this as one of eight carter studies. It was right as a top priority by the pedestrian bicycle pedestrian advisory board because of the high rate of severe injury collisions involving bicyclists and pedestrians. It's also a major north south, south access route for what's known as a community of concern. Next slide please. And the red line is the study area the pink areas are the communities of concern that's a regionally designated area and it's based on low income communities high percentage of minority population seniors and several other factors so often when projects serve these communities they're eligible for additional funding. Next slide please. So here are the major objectives of the card I'm going to read through these kind of quickly we want to get on to to share the designs with you but we want to reduce the number of rate of injuries fatalities and the comfort for bicyclists pedestrians increase the number of people biking and walking, reducing speeding, but we are going to be looking at maintaining adequate operations for vehicles so bicycle pedestrian improvements but we want to take into account the needs of drivers. And the big part of the reason we're here to with you tonight is to get your input about what is needed and what kind of changes we need to do to modify the designs. Next slide please. This is the first of two community meetings there'll be an online survey which will be hearing more about you'll be able to take after the meeting. There will be some social media ways of getting the word out and then there will be subsequent meetings with bicycle pedestrian advisory board. Next slide please. Barry if I could pause for just one moment appears we have a bit of a problem with our translation channel so I'm going to fix that quickly. Give me just one moment. Thank you Steve. I believe we can begin again. Thanks. Next slide please. So, Steve Brown we're going to turn this back to you so you can administer the first question of our poll. Indeed. So, all the poll questions are single and multiple response. You must answer all questions in order to submit your responses. The submit the submit button is the very end of the poll and you may need to scroll down and the polling feature to find it. If you are completing a poll on your smartphone. You must answer the first question before you answer the second and so on. If you are meeting in a meeting by landline, you will not be able to participate in the poll at this time. However, the complete complete survey is available in both Spanish and English on the city website at srcity.org backslash corridor studies until December 9th. If you're on the Spanish channel in which to participate in the poll, you will need to click on the globe icon on the screen and switch over to the English Channel. If you are completing the poll and has been closed, the results will appear immediately on the screen and our presenter will walk you through the results. I will now launch the poll. Steve. Hi Steve, this is Nancy. Can you hear me? I can Nancy. Yeah, we were just wondering, are you having difficulty with the poll or are you good? It's quiet for a while. No, as the poll is still up on the screen. Okay, we'll go ahead and wrap up our polling. And so Barry, if you would like to review the responses there. Sorry, is that on the next slide? Actually, no. All right, I can go through the poll results if you like. It appears that about 19% of our attendees tonight are from 95401. About 7% are from 95403. About 15% are from 95404. About 26% are from 95407. 4% are from 95409. Another 4% from 95472. And we have about 26% of our attendees tonight are from another zip code. The age range tonight. We have about 7% that are 18 to 30. About 19% that are 31 to 45. About 33% that are 46 to 60. 30% of our attendees are 61 to 75. We have 11% that are over 75. Of our participants tonight. 41% use bicycle as a mode of primary mode of travel. And 59% use automobile. Excuse me. This is Steve Weinberg. I'm getting a report that this Spanish translation is still has problems. If you can check that, I appreciate it. Thanks. I will do so again. So I think this is Nancy facilitator. Can Barry start now back to the presentation. Thank you. I'm not seeing the presentation. I guess Steve must be still working on the one moment. Yeah. Again, trying to make sure that the interpretation channel is available. Okay. Okay, thanks. So we're just going to walk you through the corridor. And then we can get into the proposed designs that, that we've helped so far. Starting at the north end of the corridor. This is just south of the intersection of stone point and West 3rd street. On the left side of the image is where the Oliver's market shopping center is. And just wanted to point out on the right side that because of the limited amount of space, there's a turn lane and the bike lane has had to be combined with that. So next slide, please. So this is another depiction of what that looks like. You can see that there are two travel lanes in each direction. There are also turn lanes in the northbound direction at the intersection bike lanes, both sides of sidewalks and also landscape areas. Next slide, please. The second segment, this is on the highway 12 bridge. Next slide, please. And this is just a breakdown of how that space is broken down. You can see that there are two lanes through lanes in each direction. A turn lane or a strike median. Again, both sides have bike lanes and sidewalks, but there's no landscape script at the cost of the constraints of the bridge. Next slide, please. And so now we're at the south end of the corridor at the intersection of Sebastopol road. Next slide, please. And here again, there are turn lanes at the intersections. There's still bike lanes and sidewalks. And there is a landscaping on one side of the street. Next slide, please. So just to summarize, there are some conditions, consistent conditions that are throughout the three segments, although the dimensions vary a bit. And so. There's consistently two lanes of traffic in both directions. All of the intersections have issues where they require turn pockets to handle the volume of traffic. There are bike lanes consistently throughout the corridor and sidewalks, but the planter strips where there are trees are limited. They're only located in certain parts, depending on the section. There's also a median in some places. It's landscape and some places it's strike. So that's the corridor we're working with. Next slide, please. It's going to go through some of the traffic conditions that we're looking at to consider what we can do with the space. Next slide, please. So injury collisions, but something we looked at, as I mentioned before, that was one of the reasons this car was identified as a priority. So for bicyclists with pedestrians, 25 injury collisions from the 10 year period, 2010 to 2019, 10 involving pedestrians and 15 involving bicyclists. I just wanted to point out that seven of these collisions involve pedestrians where vehicles were supposed to yield the right of way at crosswalks and did not. So that's, that's an issue here. Next corridor. There's just a map of where this place you can see the, the red areas of the highest concentration. So at the West third street intersection, the Occidental road intersection, and that's a basketball road. Next slide, please. Intersection delay is something we want to consider also, as I mentioned, we want to make sure that whatever improvements are put in here, maintain adequate vehicle operations. So the most congestion is at the West third street intersection. Next slide, please. And then vehicle speeds, the two places where speeds were measured, the 85th percentile speed below which 85% of the traffic is, was at 37 and 37 and a half miles an hour. So that was pretty consistent there. Next slide, please. And Steve Brown, poll number two. Okay. So once again, all the questions here again are, are a single and multiple response. And again, you must answer all the questions in order to submit your response. The submit button is at the very end of the poll, and you may need to scroll down in the polling feature to find it. If you're completing a poll on your smartphone, again, you must answer the first question before you answer the second and so on. If you're participating in a meeting by landline, again, you will not be able to do the poll at this time. You can though complete survey and both English and Spanish at the city website at srcity.org backslash corridor studies. And that'll be up until December 9th. If you're on the Spanish channel, you're going to have to come back over to the English channel in order to do the, the poll. And once everybody's completed the poll, it's been closed. The results are going to appear and this time they will appear immediately on the screen. I won't have to read them off and I'm going to launch the next poll now. Okay, very good. I'm going to go ahead and end the polling and share the results with you. All right, Steve, why don't I go ahead and take over the Steve Weinberger and I'll be doing the rest of the presentation just to review the poll results. In terms of people traveling on stony point, what their mode is, we have about half drive about 30% bikers and 20% of all the above. Those that walk in the corridor, the biggest response was never walk on the corridor or rarely. And then those that bike in the corridor, how often a few times a week was our most significant response at 44% and the rest about the same type of response. When walking or biking the corridor, what is your destination? What is your primary response to shopping? Which makes sense, 11% work, 22% recreation. Okay, so if we can go to the next slide, please. So we're going to be showing you some initial thoughts and designs on the corridor. And just to keep in mind that we have certain width requirements, we have to meet for travel lanes and bike lanes. And our goal in this was to improve pedestrian and bike facilities. But without widening, we're trying to make an economical project that can be implemented. So we do have space constraints. Keep that in mind as we move forward. Next slide, please. Okay, I'll be showing the same cross sections that Barry showed, and then we'll show you some plan views of the corridor. But our first segment, the northern segments south of West 3rd. If you look at the bottom level, we're proposing to maintain the vehicle travel lanes. And but squeezing out some space to provide some buffer between the bicyclist and the travel lane with some raised element, which we need to determine exactly what that is. Next slide, please. And we will be using green paint, especially in areas that are high conflict zones. This is a sample of what we're talking about with green paint and conflict zones. This is in Sebastopol on a state route 116, just south of highway 12. For those of you who have seen that recently, there's quite a number of areas that use the green paint to highlight the cyclist position in relationship to drivers where they cross their path. Next slide, please. So south of West 3rd street, we're going to, we're proposing to provide a buffer between the bike and vehicle traffic, and we're going to use color paint in conflict zones. And we're creating that buffer by reducing the vehicle travel lanes from 12 to 11 feet. Next slide, please. We'll move on to the bridge section. And you look at existing above and the proposed below again, similarly. Next slide, please. We're providing the buffer, but I did want to point out, we are also increasing the number of turn lanes from 1 to 2 for the south bound left turn to get on eastbound highway 12. This is a project that the city has been pursuing due to a number of issues. And I'll talk more about that when we get to the plan view. Next slide, please. Again, the buffer space with some raised element and we'll be working with the city, especially emergency services on what type of device that can be. So emergency services can mount over the top if need be. Next slide, please. And the green paint, as I mentioned. Next slide, please. So on the bridge, we are adding another vehicle lane, but we're able to squeeze that enough space to provide that buffer by reducing the traveling width. We've also eliminated the median stripe buffer area that's out there now to get the buffer in over between the bicyclists and the traveling. Next slide, please. And then finally, the southern segments, a similar approach with travel lanes being narrowed and providing a buffer. I did want to point out on the left, you see the right turn lane. Next slide, please. This is the south bound right turn on stony point to turn right on some asphalt road. Next slide, please. We've evaluated the numbers. One of the, one of the challenges we've been given by the city is to make sure that we're not creating a lot of congestion and we do have a high volume of traffic here. So we do need to keep that right turn lane, but we're going to show you some measures for providing to try to improve the comfort level for cyclists. Next slide, please. Something else we're looking at the sabastical road intersection is what's called a protected intersection. I'm going to zoom in on that corner. Next slide, please. Basically it's a design. There are no design installations of protected intersections right now in Santa Rosa, but there are places such as Davis, City of Davis that have been installing them. This one is in the City of Richmond. Basically the red dots point out raised elements that are added to essentially protect the cyclist, which would be crossing in the green area and the pedestrian and the crosswalk area at corners. And we'll show you how that applies in our design. So first of all, road intersection. As I talked about, we're going to try to create a protected intersection, at least on one corner. And we're having that buffer space added. Next slide, please. Okay. This is our first shot at redesigning the corridor and I'm going to walk you through, take you on a little tour of it. Next slide, please. Keep in mind that we've turned this sideways. So north is to the left. I'm going to be walking through the segments sort of in that same order with one being, we'll start at the intersection with West third street. Move on to number two. Occidental road three and four, the overpass over Highway 12 and then five and six. The Stony Point Plaza and Submascal road intersections. I'll take those one strip at a time and point out features to you. Next slide, please. Okay. Next slide, please. First, the section between West third and Occidental. I'm going to basically refer to these numbers and point out just features that we are providing. So starting at one, we are looking for corners that we can increase the curb extensions to shorten that crossing distance for pedestrians and slow down traffic as much as possible for turning vehicles. Number two, that's the right turn that Barry had pointed out in the photos. We are needing to maintain that right turn, but we're going to be providing some green paint in there to highlight the cyclist presence. Number three, just to show you, and this appears throughout the whole quarter, we've squeezed out enough space to provide the buffer area between the cyclists and the travel lanes. This just shows you the striping, but again, we'll be investigating and pursuing some raised elements in that space. Number four, across each of the commercial driveways, we'll be providing the green dash bike lanes to alert motorists of their presence. Moving on to number five, on both sides of that intersection, you see we've carried that green dash paint through the intersection, and that's especially important on the lower crossing. It's a long crossing through pavement, so we're identifying the path of the cyclist through the intersection. Number six, we've actually redesigned to move that stop bar closer to the intersection. It's actually set further back. It actually shrinks, helps shrink the intersection down, which creates a little bit more traffic calming and hopefully makes it less intimidating for pedestrians and cyclists. Number seven, in the top right, we have two pedestrian crossings. This is one of them that crossed the loop ramp to Highway 12, and we're going to be proposing new signage. We are going to pursue with Caltrans to see if they would accept a raised crossing. There's one right now on a ramp crossing in the town of Windsor, and we're going to be looking at that for these crossings that we're crossing the loop ramp. And number eight, we're suggesting a fairly significant increase in curbing and sidewalk on that corner to both shorten the crossing for pedestrians as well as slowing traffic down that is turning right and getting into that right turn pocket to go onto the freeway. So a much more palatable situation for pedestrians on that corner. Okay, next slide, please. All right, we're going to move on to the Highway 12 bridge section. And next slide, please. I'll start identifying features for you starting with number nine on the left. We do have places where the cyclist crosses the path of vehicles turning onto those loop ramps. So we're using that green paint to highlight the path of travel for the cyclists. Number 10 is our other loop ramp, same as I talked about before with signage and pursuing a raised crossing. 11, both sides again, consistent with the other segments, we're providing that buffer space between the cyclist and the travel lane. And you'll see on the east side or the top, we have more excess room there. So we're providing a little bit more buffer space there. Number 12, as I mentioned, the city needs to add a second left turn lane at this location because for several reasons, the congestion that it's experiencing and it will allow us to retime the signal here at the Highway 12 ramp intersection to provide more crossing time for people using the Jovedo to trail. So there is a benefit for that use. Number 13, again, we're pushing the stop bar, like that I mentioned in the last segment, pushing that closer to the intersection to shrink the intersection down a bit. Number 14, next slide, please. We have a number of things happening at the intersection with the State Route 12 eastbound ramp. And you'll see the green path of travel for the Jovedo to trail. And let's go to the next slide to take that green line line away. Okay. And I'll start at a, you'll, for those of you that use a corridor and cross here, know that there is a, what's called a, there's an island meeting there at location A, and that will be removed for safety reasons. So the, those crossing don't have the path, across the path of travel of that right turning vehicle that they do now. So that meeting is going to be removed. Location B, we're pushing the curb out again as a, shorten the crossing distance for the heads and bikes as well as slow traffic down a bit, especially that right turn, making that right turn onto the freeway. C, you'll see that we're providing what's called a bike cross and the green hashed, marking adjacent to the pedestrian crosswalk so we can segregate out cyclists from pedestrians. And then D, we, again, we have those through intersection markings for the, the bike lanes on Stony Point. And then moving on over to 15, we have two locations again where vehicles are turning or moving, merging right to get into right turn lanes. So we're using that bicycle markings to delineate their path. Next slide, please. Okay. North of Sebastopol Road, our final segment. And next slide, please. I'll point out these areas. First number 16, we do have a right turn lane to turn right into Stony Point Plaza. We are investigating whether we can eliminate it without affecting congestion and queuing. If we do need to keep it, we have squeeze enough room to provide that, provide that buffer space between the vehicle and traveling. Number 17, again, just to point out that we on the segment, we're providing more buffer space throughout the corridor. Then 18 denotes our two bus stop locations in our corridor. And we're providing the dashed bike lane striping where the bus needs to cross the path of the cyclist. 19, just wanted to point out that right turn lane that we highlighted in the photos. And again, we have squeezed space to get some more room for the cyclist through there. And there is now green paint that you crossed to get in the right turn lane. Moving over to number 20, you'll see the both through intersection bike lane markings as well as a bike cross crossing Stony Point Road there on the south end, the right side. And finally 21, we talked about this protected intersection design and I'm sorry, I neglected to mention the light blue color is just to really highlight spaces where we have those curb extensions. I think those you're watching realize that. So here the light blue is a new concrete raised curving. And we've created that similar design with the elliptical shaped median there on the corner as a protection for the cyclist. That is changing their path of travel. So next slide, please. So that's our design. And this certainly isn't the end product. This is our first cut at using some treatments for this corridor. And really it's our starting point. We want to hear from you tonight on your questions or comments or ideas. About the corridor. And before I wrap up and go to a Q and A, I think we have one more poll and then I have a couple more slides. So Steve, if you want to go on with the third poll. Okay. I will share the third poll at this point. Okay, everyone. I'm going to go ahead and end the polling. I did have a system comment that they were having trouble with. Doing the poll. I want to remind you that if you did have trouble doing it here live tonight, that you can access all the polling questions. At srcity.org backslash corridor studies. That'll be up until December 9th. I'll go ahead and just summarize this last poll. In terms of pedestrian features that. People feel making more comfortable and all the above was. Followed by the flashing crosswalk beacons. Where the largest focus here. And then what bicycle features again, all the above. So, and. With buffer bike lanes and dash screen striping. At 11%. Okay. So that's it. We're going to go to questions and answers. So, as I said, we really would like to hear from you and your comments, questions and ideas. We do as. The host has been mentioning. There is an online survey and a map to go with it. To refer to specific locations. There is an online survey. We're going to go to the next slide. We just have a couple more slides. Then we're going to go to questions and answers. So as I said, we really would like to hear from you and your comments. So, there is the. The website. S. R. City. Backslash corridor studies. And if you. Don't write that down and think about it later. You can always Google Santa Rosa corridor studies and the first item that comes up will be. The city's webpage where this project is kept. And the survey questions. You can find them on our website. And we'll be available until December 9th. Which time we'll be collecting those responses. We will be coming back to you with the second meeting. Approximately in late January, early February. Let's go to the next slide. Please. And this gives you the rest of our schedule. After we gather responses. From you. We'll be going to updating the design further. Working with the city to do that. And we're going to report back to the. Cities bicycle and pedestrian advisory board likely in January. And. Coming back with that update. Data design to you, the public. Like I said, in January, February. And then we'll present that. In March. Or April to the bike and pet advisory. Board one last time. Finalize the designer report and present that to council. So with that, if we go to our final slide. We've come to questions and answers, and I'm going to pass this back to our host. Actually, Steve, thank you. I'll take over from here. Nancy back with the city. So I want to thank you and Barry for. Sharing some of the design concepts and ideas that you've seen with city staff and the bike and pad board. Over the last four or five months. And I'm glad you reminded all of our participants today that this is your, your first proposed. Set of ideas for the quarter for the corridor. And, you know, the reason why we're here tonight and want to listen to our residents is to see if we're missing anything or just. Our residents have some other ideas that they want to share with us. So with that, I'd like to. Remind the participants how we work through the question and answer section of this zoom meeting. So I will ask our host Steve Brown to describe that again, just as a reminder. Thanks. Okay. Thank you, Nancy. Thank you. So now that we've asked for public questions and comments. I would like to ask for members of the public to raise your hand. If you do have a question or comment that you'd like to bring up. For individuals wishing to participate in the meeting by telephone. Again, you can dial star nine to raise your hand. As a host, I'm going to start calling on members of the public one by one. I'm going to mute your microphone when I call on you so that you can ask your question. Once you have raised your hand and asked your question or shared your input as host, I'm going to lower your hand and mute your microphones that our panelists may respond to your question. So. At this point. I'll go ahead and begin calling on. Our. Our citizens. So the first citizen with the. With the hand up is Barbara Moulton. So Barbara, you should. You should be able to unmute and ask your question. Thanks. My question is about Steve said. They were looking at maybe. Possibly get rid of a right turn lane at the. Southbound entrance into the plaza there. I was wondering what, if you could do that, then what would you do with, with the space for bicycles? What would you, how would you arrange that? Thank you. So, so thank you, Barbara. Just as a reminder, she's asking about the, the right turn lane into the plaza. And if that's removed, what, what design options would. Be available for the bicyclists? So I'll, I'll send that over to Steve Weinberger. If Steve, you could reply to that. I appreciate it. Thanks, Nancy. You know, at any time, when doing these projects, anytime we can, where we have low right turn volumes, anytime we can remove a stripe right turn lane. Just as a better situation for a cyclist. We have a lot of room for some buffer space. And but, but again, at the, all these signalized intersections were, were evaluating the right turning volume to see if, if we do take it away, what does that do to traffic operations? Because, you know, one of our goals here is to enhance bed and bike facilities, but not to create a lot more congestion. So where we do have lower volumes, you know, that's where we look at trying to remove them really just to remove that condition where the cyclist is crossing or the vehicle is crossing the path of the cyclist. I mean, you still have that without a right turn lane, but you just get to have and end up with more buffer space that you can maybe create more of a, a right angle approach to a cyclist rather than sort of a sites wide angle to a cyclist. So just a better situation for cyclists. Next question. Thank you, Barbara. And our next citizen participant would like to ask question is Justin Borton. So Justin, it appears Justin that I'm not able to unmute you because you're using an older version of zoom. So I'm going to, I'm going to bypass that and give you an opportunity to ask your question one moment. All right. Thank you. Thank you very much for unmuting. We appreciate that. My name is Justin. I'm a cyclist. I commute in this area and I'm a member of the board of directors of the regional parks foundation. And I just have two questions. I'm going to ask you a couple of questions. First one being extending the green paint and buffer north along stony point to the creek trail. You know, it's about 500 more yards on, or from the creek trail south on stony point to the intersection of third and stony point. That seems like a heavily trafficked area and an artery to the rest of Santa Rosa for our cyclists and commuters. And then my second question is the bike crossing that is proposed at 12 and stony point. And then also again, it's a basketball and stony point allowing for the left turns. How does a cyclist signal that they need to make that left turn? Are they forced to ride up onto the sidewalk? And then press the crosswalk. It seems like it would be challenging. It certainly is when it's arranged that way. Thank you. I'll meet myself. Nancy, you need to unmute yourself. Oh, am I good? Am I good now? Now you're good. Thank you. So thank you, Justin, for those questions. I'll hand that off to Steve. I'm going to respond to them. Yeah, Nancy. Did you want to respond to the, I think the first question was about extending improvements up to the Santa Rosa Creek. Access on stony point. Okay. We'll ask Rob sprinkle to address that first question. And then you can pick up the, the, the bike crossing one. Steve, thanks. Thanks, Nancy. Yeah, Justin, the, that wasn't part of our initial scope of work for our consultant. That's not to say that we can't look that, look into that a little bit deeper as we start to move forward with this, with the construction of this project. If it's, it's, it's just a matter of. Making sure that we're doing some of the paint marking. That would be relatively easy. However, if we're looking more at doing the buffer zone, we'd have to dig into see if we have enough width to narrow those other lanes. I'm not sure if you remember back when those lanes were installed. Initially we removed the parking along there and, and did some lane narrowing in order just to get the bike lanes in to begin with. So if we were going to put the buffers in along that same section, we'd have to look at the width and see if we can go down any, but we could definitely continue to look at that. And although we are focusing on this section just from third street to Sebastopol with this consultant contract, we still have on our, on our bike plan to look along this corridor further down towards all the way to college. So it won't be forgotten if we can't get it with this contract. Okay. Thanks, Rob. I think the second question was about making left turns. And I think the question was intended maybe related to this festival road intersection and the, the protected intersection possibly as part of this, the, and we were getting to a concept design level, not a final design level at this stage. But we always looked, you know, when it gets to a design stage and looks at the signals, with bike facilities, you're always looking for ways to place push buttons for us that are for cyclists that are reachable wall still on your bike. And if you think about the Trevor Dota trail crossing Dutton, there are both pedestrian push buttons at right at the edge of the curb, but backaways as you come on the trail, there are, there's a conveniently located bike push button. So we're looking for ways to place those in more convenient locations for the cyclists. I actually want to follow up on that just a little bit too, Steve. If the question is, and I got a little lost in the question as well, but if the question was related to making a left turn at an intersection, you could still take the lane and make a left turn at the intersection. The protected intersection would be more for a rider who isn't that experienced and who wants to take the extra precaution of taking two crossings for that movement. So we're not taking away the ability to take the lane and have the left turn. We're just, we want to provide an extra sense of security for people's and comfort for people who, who don't want to make that more aggressive maneuver. Alright, fantastic. Our next, our next participant that would like to ask a question is Stacia Okura. And you should be able to ask your question at this point. Hi, Stacia is my wife. I'm on her computer. This is Pat Bailey. I, my, during normal times, myself, my five year old, as well as some friends use the Joe without a trail to get to Cesar Chavez language Academy of primary elementary school on, on Sebastopol road. Typically we cut through the back parking lot behind all the, the buildings. And I'm, I'm not sure if it can be addressed. I mean, the kids range in age from five to 10 years old. So we're certainly not going to put them in open traffic. Do you have any comments or ideas or should we, should we just keep going around the back of the, of the, of the stores? The other alternative, frankly, with kids that edges and sidewalk, which I know is not ideal. Thank you. So, so, so, so thanks Pat for the question. I'm going to actually let Rob maybe weigh in on, on, you know, with the city, the public right away is within our purview. So, you know, that there are opportunities along the Joe or Dota trail with, with some private, with private property. So I'm going to ask Rob to maybe weigh in a little bit on, on what, what his response would be to that question. Can you let. Thanks Rob. So first thing that comes to mind would in, and I'm not as familiar with this section of the Joe or Dota trail is to use Lombardi. Come off of Lombardi court. If that does connect in fact to the Joe or Dota trail, because there's the traffic signal there that you can utilize the cross, um, Sebastopol road. So that would be my first suggestion. Um, but yeah, as Nancy mentioned, uh, work, I, I can't really, you know, focus on the, the safety aspects of going through a private parking lot. So I would suggest try and utilize, uh, the Lombardi court. Okay. Our next participant is Paul polling. So Paul, you at this point should be able to speak. Yeah. Can you hear me okay? Yes. Um, yeah. So I bike with my kids. Um, also the CCLA coming from downtown Santa Rosa. So one of two ways either we come down the, uh, creek trail and therefore. Outdown along stony points. They'll cost both the, um, the city of Santa Rosa. Um, the city of Santa Rosa. Um, the city of Santa Rosa. Um, the city of Santa Rosa. Um, the city of Santa Rosa. Um, And so in both of those, what occurs to me is that I don't know if there's some legal requirement that you. That the off-dome traffic from the highway is required to be allowed to go straight across. And then go back on the highway again, you know, like if you accidentally go off the highway. Um, and if that's not a requirement, then you have to go straight across the highway. Um, So just a suggestion and like the way the signals weighed and how much time they have to allow and all this. And also make it a little safer if they're, if the people coming off or off the highway weren't. Permitted to go straight across. And go right back on the highway. So if they made a wrong turn, they'd have to go and figure out how to turn around. Um, so just a suggestion that maybe that would help with that. And just on the point from the last color. Um, to actually know Lombardi does not go into Joe or Dara. Um, I think that's a good point. Thank you, Paul, um, for your, um, thoughts. And then I, I think this is another question that, um, maybe Rob sprinkle, uh, from our traffic. Team can respond to about the operations there at, um, highway 12. Sure. Yeah, the, the actual ramp operations on highway 12, the off ramp portion is actually controlled by Caltrans. So, um, if that's a movement that we would have to get their traffic to go straight across the intersection, we could definitely look into that. I know that they have done it in some locations, but they've had resisted to do it in other locations. And at this location specifically. I don't know that there's a high frequency of drivers going across the intersection. Typically when you see that, you'll see that when a freeway is backed up and people want to get off the freeway and get back on ahead of the, the queued traffic. And, and on this section of highway 12, that, that really doesn't occur. So we really don't typically see that as a, a high percentage maneuver. And thank you for the comment on Lombardi court. I wasn't sure if that went through or not. Okay. Thank you. Our next participant that would like to speak is Dave. So Dave, you should be able to speak now. Great. Thank you. So I'm an admin cyclist. I work in the area. I'm a high commuter on stony point, but actually south of this affected area, but I do use the Joe or Dota trail and go across. Stony point fairly frequently. And I'm really excited about what you guys have shared already, especially with baby raised barriers, potentially between the bike lane and the traffic. It's really great. I'm really happy to see what you guys have got working on, working on there. Specifically, my question is kind of back around that Joe or Dota trail. Stony point road interface. The eastbound highway 12 off ramp. That dumps onto stony point. Vehicles making a right turn off of that off ramp. Come directly into the bike crossing, both the current one and the proposed one. And I know that I think there was even a fatality there for this same situation. If it's possible. And now I understand it's with Caltrans. You'll have to get it worked out if. While the bicycles have a green crossing light, if there was any way to make the right turn off of the off ramp. For vehicles to have a red arrow until the bicycle crossing. Light is no longer green. That would be helpful because that's, that's always my white knuckle point is. That's always my white knuckle point. That's always my white knuckle point. That's always my white knuckle point coming across that lane. Worried about what those right hand turns are going to do, especially when they have a green light. And so do I. Thanks. Thank you, Dave, for that comment. I'll. Again, ask Rob to share any thoughts that you'd have on that, that comment. So thank you, Dave. Sure. Thanks, Dave. That's a great comment, actually. One of the reasons why we're proposing to put in the dual left turn cars, is because we have a lot of flexibility at that intersection. And what I mean by that is if we can get more left turn cars through that intersection. Through that phase of the signal, it gives the entire intersection. More time that we could utilize for other movements. And. And what you're suggesting is something that we could definitely look at doing because we will have more time at that intersection that we can potentially split. The pedestrian crossing. So that's what we're going to do. So that's what we're going to do. So that's what we're going to do. So that's what we're going to do. And those, as you mentioned, with that. With that same movement with the right turns and the left turns of the eastbound direction. That's the same time that the pedestrians. And bicyclists cross. And we have added there a leading pedestrian interval, which is where the bicycles and pedestrians. Are released first. Before it turns green. But as you mentioned, the pedestrian crossing. So that's what we're going to do. So we'll definitely look into, into that concept. Thank you. Great. Thank you. Our next participant attendee citizen. They would like to speak is Kevin. He him. So Kevin, you should be able to speak at this time. Well, it appears that Kevin has. I decided not to speak. So our next. Participant that would like to speak. Hi, yes. Hello. Can you hear me? Yes, you should be able to talk now. It's actually Leilani, Leilani. So yeah, I am a parent of a second grader at Cesar Chavez language Academy. And I live in downtown Santa Rosa. And we have many times used the Joe Radota trail. To travel to school. I take my daughter on the back of a, a Yuba cargo bicycle. And it is really hairy trying to cross that. Stony point crossing. Obviously that's the reason for the meeting, but I just want to emphasize that. There are quite a few students and parents now using that route. Probably even more than before. CCLA is a K through eight school. It was previously just a seven and eight. So the student population has increased in the hundreds. And, you know, I see parents and children using that route and young children using that route quite a bit now. So it's really urgent that the safety at that crossing. At stony point and Joe Radota is like, you know, takes children in mind who might be. Writing with parents or even writing on their own eventually. You know, because we wanted to be a bikeable walkable area for all the children. So, and then, you know, to the point of. I also have had to go behind food max to get over to the road. So I think that's really important. Because currently just going between the Joe Radota to Sebastible road on stony point is. It feels very dangerous on the sidewalk and on the street. So we cut through food max. And, and honestly, we're not allowed to go behind food max. I've been yelled at before. By the people working back there. So we have to cut through the parking lot and food max, which is not ideal. So. So I think a lot of the things that I've been getting from the Joe Radota. To CCLA, which is on Sebastible road. Just West of stony point. Is like optimal. It's got to just be done. You know, and, and keeping kids in mind in terms of that crossing. And making a kid friendly as much as possible. So that's it. Thank you. I'm excited about this. Thank you. I don't know if you had a question in your, in your comments, things and to share with our team about, you know, the, who's using this for and why with the children. So I don't know, Rob, if you want to add anything, I do know that the city has worked in the past with the bike coalition safety routes to school on program and for a variety of schools within the city and looking at walking routes and biking routes for schools. So I don't know if this would ever be one that the bike coalition would be put in their queue. But those are also very helpful for helping student populations out on access school. So I don't really have much more to add unless you have anything else to add on that, Rob. No, I don't think so. That was good information. Thank you so much. Okay, great. Our next participant attendee that would like to speak is Sean, Sean, you should be able to speak at this point. I'm basically, can you hear me? Yes. Okay, basically just reinforcing what everyone says. I don't live quite down to Stony Point. I'm more in the Dutton third street area, but also I use the Creek Trail and the Drogada a lot. And it's basically not super kid-friendly, you know? That's basically what everyone's saying. It's like there's some crossing points that are like very, you know, the trail itself is very amazing. It's awesome, you know, you have nature going right there. But then you hit those streets and next thing you know, like I have to go like two blocks up the road to hit a crossing point that they might stop. You know, I don't know. I just feel like the trail should be more of a streamlined situation. I know that's what you guys are working for, but I just, again, there's a lot of questionable crossing points in the trails. So that's it. And I know you guys are working for it, but like, I don't know, if you just make it more kid-friendly, that'd be amazing. Thank you. Thank you, Sean. I don't know if any of the panelists would want to add any comments on that, but I appreciate you sharing your insights tonight, Sean. Thank you. Okay. Our next participant is Sarah Hadler and she would like to speak. So Sarah, you should be able to speak at this point. Okay. Thank you. Can you hear me? I can. Great. Hi, I'm Sarah Hadler. I work with the Safe Routes to School Program for the Sonoma County Bicycle Coalition. So I just wanted to chime in with a few thoughts. Wonderful comments about having this area be more family and kid-friendly. We absolutely need that, definitely. And we work with Cesar Chavez Language Academy. JX Wilson is another school that's on the corridor and RL Stevens, Robert L. Stevens, I think those three schools are maybe the most affected by this. And we have student address maps that we can share that show how many people, how many potential families could use these crossings if that's helpful information. We're happy to share that. I also sent out this meeting to the schools I work with so to garner interest and to get feedback. And we can do that with this online surveys as well. So we're happy to do that and just echoing the need to make this corridor more friendly for bicyclists of all ages, for bicyclists and pedestrians of all ages. Thank you. Thank you, Sarah. Appreciate that. Any of the panelists want to add anything? I think those are very valuable thoughts. And unless any of the panelists have anything else to add, Steve, I, Brown, I guess we could go to our next question unless anyone else has anything to add in that. Okay, thank you, Nancy. Our next participant is James Salvante. So James, you are able to talk at this point. Thank you. First of all, thank you very much for the opportunity to look at the plan. Overall, it looks really fabulous. And I really appreciate having another option to writing behind food max, which I like many others on the call are doing. In reference to that, and folks that are looking to get from the Joe Radota over to the school there, the street pertain does go through, unlike Lombardi. And although that's not part of the scope of the current project, I'd like to ask the city planners to consider looking at that as a potential option. It's got good access from the trail. And if something could be done about the signal and a way to get safe access from the intersection there over to the bike lane, it might be a good option for folks that are traveling from that side of the trail to get over to the school. And that's all I have to say. Thank you very much for the opportunity to participate. Thank you very much, James, for that comment. So I don't know if Rod, did you want to respond on the connection there written Elaine or? Yeah, sure. Just in general, I'm definitely recognizing there's a need for some better connectivity. So we'll be investigating that. Again, that's not really part of this project, but that's something we could look into. I'm definitely hearing the need. And so we'll see what we can do to help facilitate a little better connection there. All right, great. Our next participant citizen is Sean Malani. Malani. And again, it appears that you're using a older version. So one moment while I allow you to speak. I'm going to go get this snack and to get some of your teeth brushed. Okay. All right, you should, Sean. Malani, yeah, Malani, you should be able to speak now. Thanks. I'm logged in on my wife's computer. So my name is Nick. And yeah, I bug the area frequently. I live in Roseland. I work in Roseland. And I really appreciated all of the considerations you guys have made. I think the protected lanes, the raised crossings, elimination of that slip lane for eastbound traffic on Highway 12 from northbound Stony Point. I was going to really make the place feel a lot safer. So I appreciate all of that. And I just had a couple of thoughts. One is when you talk about what's separating the buffered lanes from traffic, I've seen buffered lanes like they built on right here in Roseland actually. I think it's mostly for pedestrians, but it's just to get from Sebastopol Road up to where it was formerly the Dollar Tree. And they just get destroyed by car traffic. And so those are just, you know, plastic ballards. So what I'm hoping is that I can put in a good word for something that's more durable, like steel, concrete, something that would actually protect users of the trail from fast-moving vehicles. Otherwise, I don't think it adds much safety to the current situation of the striped lanes. And then the other thought I had was, talking about making this, you know, more comfortable for bicyclists and pedestrians are the opportunities to add trees to these designs. Can we put trees like in medians where they don't exist or in buffered lanes where they don't exist in order to reduce the urban heat island effect, provide shade for people, reduce pollution, maybe planters with small trees in them could be used for some of those protected bicycle lane areas. I think it would just make the area a lot nicer. And it would also kind of calm traffic as well. So that's my two cents. I'm really appreciate what you guys are doing and thanks for the opportunity to speak here. Hey, thanks a lot Mike, appreciate those thoughts. So I think what I might want to do is I kind of heard a little bit about the design that Steve Weinberger presented, talked a little bit about trees in the median. So maybe Steve, you could talk a little bit about that and then I think the buffered lanes too and what type of treatment would be used if you want to talk a little bit about that. And then, I don't know, Rob, if you want to weigh in as well but let's have Steve take a first cut at it. So thanks, thanks so much. Thanks, Nancy. So in terms of our raised elements, and that's something that we're, between now and the next time we come back to you we'll have some samples of photos of raised elements that are used other places that we're proposing here. That's something we haven't met with emergency services yet but we really want to get their approval on any raised elements first. So that's our next step with the city. So I don't want to suggest things that emergency services has a specific problem with but we do want for sure to propose some type of raised element. Some are, you see from just the simple graphics, some cities have used just simple rubber poles but there's others that have used some more aggressive. Some are called, if you look up something called an armadillo, road armadillo, it's a road bumper but very pronounced or nobody would try to, vehicle would not try to run over that. So we do want to look at some aggressive means but again, want to meet with the city first. Nancy, can you remind me of the other? Yeah, the commenter also talked a little bit about trees in the medians. I don't know if that's something you thought about but that was his other comment. Yeah, we've taken that note down and that's something that we'll look into for the design, anytime with landscaping and medians. Number one, we need to run that by the city. Number two, you need a minimum width to allow trees to survive in a median. And so I don't know that we have, we've been trying to narrow the lanes to get room for these buffered space between the bike and the travel lane. It would be great if we had more room to work with to widen some of the medians as well and we just haven't had the room to do that but there are, as you've seen in the draft plan, a number of sort of extensions of curbs at intersections, although that's a nice place to also add more landscaping, we wanna make sure that we're not adding landscaping enough that it's gonna block the view of as somebody in a vehicle now can't see a pedestrian around the corner. So we wanna be careful in what we promote there as well but that's something that we've taken your note down and we're gonna be looking for areas to propose additional landscaping and or trees. Okay, great. Bob, did you have anything to add on that or are you good? Nope, I'm good. Okay, thanks. All right, thank you. Okay, our next participant that would like to make a comment is Neil Pinkerton. Neil, you should be able to speak now. Neil. Hello. Yes. Okay, so yeah, I've commuted this corridor hundreds of times in the past few years. And the significant, the parts where I feel the most at risk where the traffic has to cross the bike lane and that's like just the on-ramp where Occidental Road crosses Stony Point and also where after the, let me think, it's where the plaza where you go the right turn into the plaza. So there's a separate lane there but after that, after the right turn into the plaza, after that one, there's this like no man's land where you've got to hop over from the bike lane to the straight ahead lane which would be the right turn lane I guess. And so I wondered what, if you would have it, what sort of things you'd investigated to sort of like try and make that like a safer thing. Like maybe, I don't know what other countries have done. Maybe Holland would be a good thing to look at. Maybe you see what they've done to separate cars and bicycles in terms of how do you stagger the traffic and maybe the lights could be staggered. I don't know what you're gonna do between the plaza and the Spassel Road but I think the Occidental light, you could have a light where the bike was allowed to go first and then some people were talking about that on the crossing of the road over the trail, you might have to be able to let the pedestrians go first and the cyclists are the same, you know, separating the traffic and the bicycle and pedestrians sort of have a crosswalk sort of thing there. I don't know what the solution is. I just wondered if you, what other solutions there might be out there to look at. Those are the points aside from everything else that everybody's talked about. Those are the two points that I haven't heard anybody address yet. I'd just be interested to hear your comments and it's exciting to see what the progress would be. Thank you very much. Well, thank you, Neil. I appreciate that. So I'm gonna hand that off to Steve Lemberger to maybe respond to some of his comments. Thanks, Steve. Yeah. Thanks, Neil. And I think you may have also recorded those questions in the Q and A and I've kind of recorded those already and some intriguing ideas. Something we'll talk to Rob about. The, you know, as Rob mentioned, there's an advanced pedestrian phase or release where we release the pedestrians first sort of intriguing concept to apply that to cyclists. And that's something Rob and I will talk about. And you mentioned about the place where the cyclist has to move over and you're down a stressful road. You know, as a cyclist you're against the curve and now you need to cross over on the other side of that right turn lane. I mean, that is the national standard for design where you have a right turn lane and the bike lane needs to be on the other side of it because you don't want the cyclist on between the curve and the right turn where the right turn is now conflicting with the cyclist. You always wanna get the cyclist on the other side or the right turn. That's the standard, the national standard design for that. But with that said, you know, we've heard a lot of comments tonight about that side of Stony Point between the Derrida Trail and Spassful Road. And I mean, honestly, you got us thinking and we're gonna be talking with staff about that. I can't offer you any ideas, but when we come back next time, I think hopefully we'll have that issue addressed more fully in the plan. So thank you. Okay, and the next participant is Barbara. Barbara, you should be able to speak to us now. Yeah, hi, this is Tom Hell, Barbara's husband. And in my days of riding the bicycle, across on South on Stony Point crossing the Derrida Trail is Harry. And I think your improvements are very good, especially getting rid of that island on southeast the intersection of the Derrida Trail and Stony Point. And also on the Southwest, in your drawing showed an extended curve out so that the people coming off the freeway to turn right on the Stony Point won't have a sweeping a turn from the off ramp onto Stony Point. The issue is people getting off the freeway have to adjust to being on the city street. And the first thing they're gonna do when they turn right on the Stony Point is cross the new alignment of the Derrida Trail that you have on your draft plan, the way you separated out the crosswalk for pedestrians versus the bike crossing. The bike crossing now is the first thing that a right turning car off the freeway is gonna cross. And those people, the need is to get the people who are coming off the freeway somehow to recognize they have to change their whole behavior once they get onto city streets. And I'm wondering, so that's a comment. I think you need to do more even for that right turn off the freeway off ramp on a Stony Point. Another question, it's just a question, it's not a suggestion is on Dutton, there's a bicycle crossing specifically. And I think it would be helpful to people to say, what are the reasons for or against a similar crossing of Stony Point by moving the bike crossing south, maybe a hundred feet or so, that's my question. Thank you. So thanks a lot, Tom. Again, I'm hearing a lot of good thoughts and good suggestions for the team. So Steve, there's a few things in there maybe about the crossing there at Joe Radota and Dutton and how that could maybe interface with your design concept. So do you wanna talk a little bit about that? And then again, just the crossing there of Highway 12 with that extended curb and if there's anything else that you wanna think about there. So can you talk a little bit more about Tom's ideas? One thing, I think there was a suggestion of, can't we make the Joe Radota crossing a Stony Point like the one at Dutton? And I'm looking right now at an aerial of the crossing location and what Dutton is, it's more like a mid-block situation than Stony Point, which is essentially attached to the intersection. It's an intriguing idea. One thing to consider is in order to, we have right away, you know, private property, the shopping centers that are budding up against the trail and we have actually kind of a pinch point there on Stony Point and to, if the trail were pushed, say South, like you're suggesting, now we're into private property. So that's something we need to be cognizant of in the design. So, but with that said, we kind of understand the reason for your suggestion and we are concerned about that right turning traffic, getting off the freeway and introducing, you know, trying to create a better situation for the bikes and feds crossing there. So we're certainly gonna look into that deeper. So thanks. Okay, great. At this time, there are no more hands raised in the queue. Oh, I spoke too soon. Someone just raised their hand. One moment. Okay, it appears that Elizabeth Ridlington would like to make a comment or ask a question. So Elizabeth, you should be able to speak now. Great, thank you. I like a lot of elements of this proposed design and I have a couple of questions. I know I'll have another crack at this because I'm on the city's bike and pedestrian advisory board but I still wanted to ask some questions now. The first is, I understand that we'll need to talk to emergency services to figure out what's an acceptable sort of barrier between the bike lanes and the car travel lanes but having just Googled the Armadillo barriers, it doesn't seem like it's that much better than a curb. I agree that nobody would deliberately drive over it but I'm concerned about drivers on cell phones and drivers who are impaired and other things and I think cyclists would feel a lot safer if we can indeed get some sturdier barrier along there. So that's, I think just a comment on that one. Then the next, I have a question, especially about section one, but maybe this applies down in the final seven section two was whether we can get rid of one or two driveways into shopping centers because each one of those is an opportunity for conflicts between turning cars and bikes and pedestrians and the shopping center on the west side in section one has a lot of driveways. So that's just a question. I have no idea what goes into negotiating the closure of a driveway. Then my third thing is at the very southern end of the design, I think it was marked as 20, improvements 20 and 21 on the map. I couldn't quite see how a cyclist who was going to continue straight on Stony Point across Sebastopol Road would navigate around the modified intersection design there. It seemed like there was sort of a barrier that would be in the way of cyclists going straight down. So those are my three things. Thank you. Thanks Elizabeth. So let me see, I'm gonna do a couple of things here. Let's see, you had a comment about just the separation. So, and then number 20 and 21 in the design. So I'll have, if Steve Weinberger could maybe respond to those. And then you had a question about consolidating driveways. So maybe Rob Sprinkle could weigh in on that one. So thanks guys. Rob, you wanna go ahead first? Yeah, I'll go first. Sorry, I couldn't find my mouse. I've never closed a driveway for a private property before. So that would be something new. However, I think there may be an opportunity to do that. They are requesting that they have a new driveway on Occidental, I believe. So that may be an opportunity for us to close one on Stony Point. So I'll definitely have to look into that. It kind of falls into the planning economic development section, but I think this being a high priority corridor for us, we could definitely look at entertaining that as an option. Okay, and your question about the southbound cyclists on Stony Point, as they come to that protected intersection, you're right that there's not a clear path for the cyclists. The cyclists would need to come into that protected area and then essentially come into it and then make a right turn to continue south on Spassboro. That's the downside of sort of the protected intersection design where you don't have a ton of room to play with in that you do force cyclists into those zones as they continue straight. But honestly, we took our first cut at, we wanted to show this to the public and we'll be spending a little more time with the design on that to see if we can improve upon. So thanks for your comment. Okay, great. And again, that appears to be the last of the hands that were raised. I do have a couple of comments that were sent directly and I'll go ahead and read those and see if there can be, or if any response is needed for those or if you wanna make any response to those. Let's see, one of the comments is, there's an existing problem that seems to not be addressed here is for cyclists eastbound on Joe Radota. There's a conflict with vehicles exiting eastbound highway 12 who wanna turn right south on Stony Point across a cyclist's path. Many vehicle operators failed to yield to cyclists, especially those who arrive at the intersection after the signal has allowed bike and pedestrian crossing. Perhaps a vehicle right turns need to be prohibited wherever bike or ped crossing is allowed. And that's from David McQuaid. I think Nancy, I think we've discussed that already. Nancy, do you agree? I think so, yes. Yeah, okay. Okay, and let's see, one of the question here, or a couple, would it be possible to make the Radota bicycle crossing at Dutton have an audible signal? At Dutton, or at Stony Point? Yeah, that was my question. It just says would it be possible? Yeah, it says crossing at Dutton. Would it be possible to make that an audio signal, an audible signal? And okay, that appears to be the comments that were sent directly. So that is the end of the comments and the end of the hands up. So Nancy, do you wanna take us forward from there? So I guess just a process question. How are they, I know there was several questions or panelists that participants put in the Q&A tab. Are those going to be handled separately by the consultant team or how steep round do we handle those? I just wanna make sure that we're doing a proper addressing these properly for our residents. Indeed, there are a number of questions that were repeats of what was said during the comments section while the hands were up and they were speaking. I tried to just read the ones that hadn't been already spoken. But as far as answering them live, that would be up to however you wanna address that Nancy. Yeah, Nancy, I have been following the questions. A lot of them were repeats and people voiced their questions. I have recorded all those questions and we'll keep a record of those and respond to them. via the city's webpage if that's okay. Well, that's fine. I just wanna make sure that the residents knew that your team, Steve, saw them and that you would include those in your deliberation as you move forward with this. So thank you. Got them all recorded down. Good, perfect. Okay, so Steve Brown, I think we're at the end of the question and answer period. Is that correct? So I just wanna say to the residents who came out tonight, I'm really very, as long as well as the team here on this Zoom call, just really happy to see such great participation on this community meeting. It's really encouraging to know that there's so many residents who want to really make Stony Point Road a better place for cyclists and pedestrians. So I wanna thank the participants really first off. And then I wanna thank all the panelists who responded to the questions and wanted to make sure that we were engaging with the residents tonight. So I'm happy to say that we're glad to be able to have a chance to listen to your insight and your comments. And we want to continue to hear from you. So as you've heard before, our city website, srcity.org forward slash quarter studies has additional information about what Steve Weinberger presented tonight, that PowerPoint presentation will be posted on that website. It'll have a link to the survey. And again, it's open through December night. So share that link with your friends and neighbors who might not have been able to participate tonight. And I wanna say again, thank you all for being here tonight and have a good evening. So thank you.