 at what point at what I like I mean help me out because I've actually had conversation like this with a lot of people here what do you mean by so what do you mean by so I think I mean believe it's we have one what is it our body our brain just for you because there's probably Christians are probably saying something different yeah you know so what is the soul to you to me I think it's it's something that carries on after your physical body like heat like like your soul enters a new body after you die and that's the soul that goes to heaven like we're not gonna have I'm not gonna have this body and you're not gonna have that body when we enter the afterlife we're gonna have our souls gonna carry on we're gonna have new bodies all right how confident are you that that's a thing I'm very like can we do this real quick like if this is no way Jose to oh yeah like absolutely true there's no way you got one too oh sorry yeah it's magnetic to yeah so like white definitely definitely absolutely no way I could be wrong about it absolutely 100% true zero there's no way in no way in smeg I'd say for myself yeah it's absolutely true okay honestly I'm about here right now so it's not this it's not that it's more of like I'm open up it's an open door for me like here yeah I think it's also something that's especially when we're bringing in religion it's something that's more it's more faith-based so you're at absolutely sure no way it could be wrong I can totally understand why somebody would be here I cannot understand why somebody would be here I think that's hard to say can can I what got you and anytime you want to get up this fine I'm sorry this is taking too long I said two minutes right what got you to be so confident what method did you use to become so confident that the soul exists I mean I was raised Christian and a Christian home and I if you're raised Hindu would you believe in the Hindu God I wouldn't I do not know okay if you were raised Mormon would you probably be Mormon right now tell me about I would not I do not know but you think it's reasonable I mean no I mean do you think people who are in India tend to be more Hindus yeah people in Utah tend to be Mormons people who parents are one thing I mean that's is that a reliable way to come to 100% I say yeah nature I mean nurture is obviously a very deciding factor in terms of what people end up yeah being like obviously my parents for Christian that heavily influenced me but so what I'm trying to figure out is what's the method that you're doing that justifies 100% confidence and if we can agree that you can be raised and believing different things just this in your upbringing maybe upbringing is not that 100% yeah I'm trying to say it's it's not just the upbringing it's being in the Bible praying you know talking to God and you know him opening my heart be understanding personal experiences yeah personal experiences it's do the personal experiences you have prove that the soul exists or that the God's true I think it's it's something that is based in faith so what do you mean by faith I mean it's almost taking a leap of faith it's kind of like what faith yeah I love it this is why we do this just just a chance to talk about it I think it's something that you grow you what I think it's something that that grows as as you have more faith kind of just taking it using faith in the definition trusting something faith is trusting something I think I think like I don't know scientifically like I don't know you know in terms of physical evidence if God exists or not but I think on a faith way like taking that leap of faith where you kind of open your heart and you think okay okay God I don't know if you exist or not yeah I'm gonna give you a chance and I think that's when God comes to you he reveals himself I mean I've noticed it with a lot of people is that like even like atheists they'll stanchi things like people are really that's the first time I heard staunch this year really I think so yeah some words to speak out to me just like really hard in their their belief that that God doesn't exist to the point in which it's it's self-destructive it's angry it's indicative and it's not even it's not giving God a chance like oh God you reveal yourself you know like that kind of leap of faith if we go back to that Hindu and it says I believe in Krishna because of faith would you then believe in Krishna say what Hindu uses faith to get the Krishna and if he came here and says I open up my heart to Krishna I read the Bhagavad Gita and now I have absolute proof because of my faith that fish knew exists would now you say oh good use faith now I believe in fish can too I'd say no I think it would be more is it possible to use faith and arrive at a conclusion that's not true I think I mean it's it's faith in tandem with logic because there's still faith is not enough faith is not quite enough yes I'd say so God has given us certain things that are is there a logical way to reach the conclusion that a God exists I don't think so I think so without faith or logic what's getting you to that hundred percent I think it's faith logic which we can't get to I think I think logic gets you this much and you need faith to get all the way because I think logically in terms of physical evidence like God in the through the Bible which is a document that has lasted thousands of years despite any you know over any other document over any other any other book you know it or historical document it's lasted and has more credibility in terms of historical accuracy than any other document it's just like it's lasted for so long if there was a book that was older would you believe that not necessarily older but it like if it was like a pagan god that was like even older than the Bible far more that was like is it just the fact that it's older it was it's that it's it's it's very old it's lasted for a very long time it's also the credibility of it like we we have a lot of sources that say that people who wrote these books are the people who wrote these books like what we know about the Bible there's a more credible book from a different religion would you believe that religion okay I mean we're talking what ifs so I don't like yeah it's the question it's difficult but I think that yeah so there's the book and then I would think that if you cared about credibility if there was a more credible religion you'd switch that religion yeah I mean if it's yeah it's more credible like I don't know what it is yeah and I'd say if it's like ethical so I think Christianity also has strong I'm gonna throw out an example if I flip a coin it's back in my hand right could be heads could be tells if I use faith and logic to say that this coin is heads up would I be justified at 100% confidence that it's heads up I'd say faith is a little bit more of a back and forth than that you whereas you can have faith in God and God can come down to you you know come down to your level and really know you and you know him the coin can the coin is just a coin so the faith doesn't affect it either way the court yeah faith does not affect the coin okay if we're talking about like a God and people can and if I was a Hindu that had faith on a God and she though or Vishnu or any of the gods that they worship just because they have faith doesn't mean that their gods really say there's there's more to it seems like you can have faith in something and it's not and actually it not be the case or faith and I have absolutely no occasion that's why it seems like faith is not a hundred percent reliable if some people can use faith and not get to a hundred percent truth yeah so what's justifying 100% that's I just feel a hundred percent on it like the is just feeling it a reliable way to come to a true conclusion I think in terms of terms of like how long I've studied the Bible and I've seen the truth of the gospel even the way if you met an older Hindu would you believe because he did it longer than you did sorry what if there was a Hindu that was older than you who's been having his relationship with no I mean like in terms of what I've seen through the gospel in the Bible reading it and studying it and seeing the truth in it even terms of things that for the time the Bible was written far advanced from that culture from that time like it and all the people who believed in it and what they said and the prophecies and the the history of it a lot of it a lot of it checks out like it's in terms of the things that happens you know and then I think having faith and talking to God brings you that other percent if you didn't have faith would you still be a hundred percent no I would not be a hundred so I have faith I think the Bible is very clear that you need faith to reach a hundred percent and if I had and this is my last example if I had two weather reports and they both said that there was a 20% chance of rain does that mean there's a 40% chance of rain or am I just reading two reports that's a 20% you're just reading two reports how does combining two things that aren't a hundred percent reliable lead to a hundred percent reliable conclusion you said a logically we can't reach that fate conclusion faith is not a hundred percent reliable to some people use it and it's still be wrong how does combining these two things together lead to 100% I think it's it's in terms of the logic it's weighing what you need to put your faith in putting your faith in it reaches it brings you the rest of the way I how I think I think you're you're drawing on a false equivalency in terms of your your weather reports 20 20% just the nature of faith and the nature of logic are two very different things can we agree people use faith and reach wrong conclusions yes I would love to know then if we know faith isn't a hundred percent reliable I need to justify I need to come back to me I need to check out my friend is done with his thing it was nice talking to you talking to you what's your name Tyler Tyler does this go online or yes okay you're free to take a card let's chat if you have an idea of what is a reliable way to reach your absolute point because I think people do this or like people who've done that yeah and that's all good but when you're here it's to me like I'm so sure that I'm closed-minded about anything else there's nothing else I convinced me I have no room to grow anymore I'm at my maximum point I would say I'm still definitely willing to grow but if you're willing to grow and there's another person who's not willing to grow because they're so sure I would say only one of those people are a hundred percent sure that's a fair point Tyler nice meeting talk to you thanks