 who's still trapped on the rubble of the collapsed skyscraper by Lengos. Emergency responders say six people dead and four currently in hospital. We'll be talking to the spiritual leader and founder of one love family, Sathgu Maraji, this morning about the state of Maju. I would also take a look at the major stories on the front pages of the dailies. They're dominated by the collapse of the 21-story building in Lengos. Good morning and welcome to the breakfast on Plus TV Africa. A Tuesday morning, the first official first day of November, is it? Second day of November. And it's the first Tuesday. Don't worry, I know how it feels. First Tuesday of November, my bad. I've been under the weather. Anyway, good morning. Thanks for joining us. I am Osalgi Ogboon. And I am Messi Ogbo. As always, of course, we start with the major stories making headlines across Nigeria today. One of them that you can't miss, of course, is the collapse of the 21-story building here in Lengos, around the Iqoi, I think Gerard area, Iqoi in Lengos. Shocking, very, very shocking news yesterday. And of course, from the live feed that we got and from our correspondent who was also on ground yesterday, it was a very, very, very painful situation. Sadly, there's different angles that we, of course, would love to talk about and hope that there's more people rescued from the reports. It says about six people have been confirmed to have been victims and to have died. Yes. Some quotas are reporting for, others are saying for, rescued for dead. And I still think because that's a very, very, you know, huge one. So it's going to take a lot of time. So I'm sure that as we proceed in the course of the day, we'll definitely see how the figures rolling and all of that. But you have the figures not really tallying from different quotas. And, you know, another unfortunate incident is the fact that it's really, really sad. Now, I don't know if you actually seen the reports. There's a report saying that, you know, the Lengos agency is saying, oh yes, approval was given for the construction. Approval was given for 15th story, you know, to be erected. And then we have 21 story. But the problem, you know, the question now is the Lengos building control agency is vested with that responsibility of monitoring and enforcing building control regulations. So how, because it feels like, okay, yes, we approve 15 for you and you have 21. I'm thinking that someone failed at your job because if you had the team monitoring and ensuring that, you know, they are building up to, you know, expectation, what is expected of them. We wouldn't have all of this. So now you're saying, oh, we give them approval for 15 and then they have 21 story. Well, I'm sure that. So what I expect is, you know, in a sane society and expect that Lengos will be able to bring out some sanity in itself in order to investigate this properly. I hope that they will be able to, you know, bring out the truth and let us know if they truly approve just 15 and they pushed all the way to 17 or to 21. That's one. And if they went ahead to seek approval for 21 later on and it was granted because now everyone is going to try and act innocent like, oh, we only approve 15. But, you know, we'd like to know if they also went ahead to seek, you know, further approval to push for 21 story building and the Lengos state government granted that approval. I remember that there's also a letter that shows the structural consultants pulling out sometime in February 2020, saying that they no longer wanted to be associated with it. They probably had seen some things that weren't, you know, proper and they decided instead of them to be, you know, caught in the mess they would rather pull out. So there's a lot of questions to be asked. I remember also sometime last year the Lengos state government did stop construction in that building. But according to that, it says it's really because of the building approval and some other things, not necessarily because of the structure. They eventually continued after it was suspended. These questions need to be asked. Lives have been lost, you know, whether VIPs or laborers, it doesn't matter, they're Nigerian lives that have been lost. Some of the other questions that need to be asked is really, and it's something that I believe that we need to question more now, if these places where these skyscrapers are being built are really meant to be for skyscrapers or not. And the reason I'm asking this, yesterday I was in Iqoi for about two hours, stuck in traffic because of this thing. The Commissioner of Police had walked past because he also couldn't pass. The whole of the place was blocked. He couldn't pass. He had to find his way and walk past all the traffic to get to the scene of the incident. There wasn't any way in those one hour, 30 minutes to two hours that I was there that there was no rescue vehicle that could pass at that time. There was nothing. There was zero, not even a little tractor could pass anywhere to get to that incident. And that's one of the things that I'm talking about here because this is someone who put out a very, very long thread on social media about it, that it took about three hours before there was any actual truck or rescue vehicle. And like you have rightly mentioned, this should not just be another case, because first of all, this is not the first time we're having buildings collapse in leaguers. I mean, we've had, you know, series of cases that of the TB Joshua, you know, a building that collapsed. You want to go on from 2016 or 2014, you know, you have series of all of this building that has actually gone down. But, you know, it brings me back to bodies because we do not live in a society where there's no law. I mean, we're governed by laws and we have bodies, and that's why we have the government. And so the question now would also be the legal, state, physical planning, permittal authority, you are asking who should that place been approved in the first instance for such, you know, structure to be erected. So the question is who gave the permit. Already, you also have the other body saying, oh, we approve 15. It therefore shows that, you know, there's a lot that we just, we don't pay attention to things. I'm sure that before any structure has been erected, professionals will tell you that, you know, some environmental impact assessment should be carried out. And this is actually given in every scene and, you know, civil society. It is really quite very sad, it's saddening to me because I know that a lot of people who left their houses, you know, don't know how to echo leaving. And, you know, and that's the end of them. Do you know how many persons that are trapped in that particular space as we speak right now? It could be anyone. And we cannot constantly just, you know, act randomly like we don't care about the lives of people. So I'm hoping that this also would not just be another collapse building and then we're not doing anything because for every time we have a structure collapse, we're thinking that people should, you know, pay for it. You know, be apprehended. Someone should be arrested. Something should go on. And then there should be a lesson learned. What are we doing to ensure that this does not happen in the future? So it's really sad. We'll see how it goes. And there's also reports, really sad reports that the owner of the building itself was, you know, there when it happened and, you know, might very likely want to be people who is trapped or who, of course, they are going to be trying to create a really sad aspect. Really sad. Because of all the days for the building to collapse, it has to be a day when he himself went there for inspection. So hopefully there will be answers and we'll get to figure out whose fault it really was. Whose lapses, you know, led to the collapse of that building, whose structural, you know, deficiencies led to the collapse of that building, whose stop on head maybe led to the collapse of that building. $5 million for an apartment and $5 million for the penthouse. Did you also see the video that surfaced yesterday where I don't know if that's the owner actually saying, oh, oh, this is the best place to be best contractors because the contractors were actually foreigners and they are the best in the world and this is what we're getting. But I'm hoping that, like you have mentioned, people will be held accountable for this particular action. Absolutely. And rest in peace with those lives the rescue efforts continue and they are able to save, actually save more lives that are trapped under that rubble. Would continue to report our reporters will continue to of course bring your feedback from E.C.O.E. the part of Lagos to let you know exactly what is going on on Gerard Street. Stay with us. All right, our next top trend in the story is moving to, well, Anambra State where a popular billionaire businessman, Obi Kuban as it's popularly called has, according to reports, been questioned, not necessarily arrested, but has been questioned by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission for money laundering charges and whatnot. For a lot of people who have responded to this, it says really that well, you know, this was meant to happen at some point. I'm just sharing some of the reactions that I've seen, you know, those people who've said, well, this was going to happen at some point. Why, because of the party? Mostly because, yeah, because of the wealth and affluence, you know, and of course in Nigeria you really don't stay hidden for so long, you know, at some point there's going to be somebody who would say, you know, it's either, you know, out of jealousy or maybe there's actually questions that need it to be asked, and all that, you know, expression of wealth and affluence here and there really just put himself or put him, you know, in the limelight and everybody, including the EFCC is going to start wondering which business you've been doing for so long and this many years that, you know, it's giving you all this money. There's also the arguments and I'm, to be honest, I'm really just sharing the views from other people that I've seen. There's also those who have said that it's not necessarily him, you know, being a gazillion billion, Richard and Jeff Bezos is, you know, all the wealth that was shown, you know, in his mother's burial was really just, you know, people coming to appreciate him because of the number of years that he's assisted them and he has been there for them or whatnot. But anyway, this is that the EFCC has, you know, of course invited Obi Kuban as his public court for questioning over alleged money laundering. There's really nothing wrong if you're invited for questioning as a matter of fact, I think he actually put himself out not necessarily that he knew this was going to happen but of course questioning. So Matt, because also if you want to also look at the issue of money laundering, there's Money Laundering Prohibition Act which makes that illegal. So it's an illegal crime. If it's been found guilty, I'm sure that the law would take its cause but his question, even though some courters are saying oh, he was arrested, he was arrested, it's okay. We've seen this is not the first time an individual is invited for questioning by the EFCC. We've seen, you know, governors, former governors, we've seen wives of governors and what have you, the least is endless, including yourself could be invited someday. I hope I'm right. He said you hope you're rich enough. Maybe someday he could put out some stunt. I hope I'm rich enough to be considered. He'll be investigated, you know, and then they find out that my money is actually You know, don't you know that people are now bragging that like, have you been invited by EFCC? He's had a bragging rise. So I hope I'm rich enough for our EFCC. Please invite me, all right. But I also mentioned, you know, that there's people who have also said that this could also be related to the NABRA elections. Oh no. Can we just even take a break? I mean, because of sponsorship, you know, so people, this is, I'm really, I'm just sharing what actually happened. No, no, I totally understand. Because I also saw some of those reactions. Well, let's find out who we, very likely will be sponsoring for the NABRA elections. Not supporting, not necessarily sponsoring but supporting the NABRA elections that, you know, all this might just be... But, you know, my major concern is, you know, for every time we have something happening in Nigeria, we always seem to. I'm not saying that, you know, there could be some element that we're not able to verify all of that. I mean, it just leaves it at hearsay and all of that. And hearsay cannot be taken at this point. This is just speculation. But I'm not wondering why we try to, you know, politicize every little thing that happens. I mean, I never thought about that. Who could even be thinking about it? It's a trauma response. It's a trauma response from what we've seen as Nigerians. From experiences that we've had in the past. That's really what it is. Nobody, nobody just... These theories don't come out of the gutter. And then some people are also saying, oh yes, this is from the South East. This also could just be, you know, another witch hunt and all of that and what have you. But really, like I mentioned earlier on, I think that's nothing really wrong if you're... Anyone could be questioned. Anyone could be invited. I mean, to ask, how are you making your money? We suspect XYZ. And he's innocent until being proven guilty by a court of competence and jurisdiction. Time will tell. Time will tell, absolutely. The final thing, I think we can just quickly rush through this. A guy called Adam Zujou who has also been declared wanted this time by Interpol for fraud after setting up an investment company. This happens every two weeks, so every four market days if we have been honest with ourselves. Set up an investment company called Adi Finance and Investment Limited and, of course, allegedly has run away with billions of investors funds. The crime or the people who eventually have gotten him invited by the Interpol claim that he defrauded him of $52 million and $28,000. But this, I believe, or from what the story is saying, is really just a tip of the iceberg or just really a little pinch out of the amount of money that he's alleged to have run away with. There are certain investment companies in the country today that I believe that if you're not... I mean, I can't name them, but if those are not the ones that you're using, you basically are playing with your money. Because some of all these extras by these random Nigerians that nobody knows where they came from, the Adams or Jews and the Gloria O'Saiys and the guys that we spoke about two weeks ago that are in Panama or some random country now. Have they been found there? Yeah, I think there's some random country trying to be citizens and never come back to Nigeria. Oh, wow. If you keep... put your money in those places owned by these random people, that I have members of your church. Oh, what are you saying? Okay. But this is what I have to say. I mean, whether they are members of your church or not, it's important that you seek some sort of financial education. I would always say that. It's okay to say, I want to invest my money, but before you invest your money, please do your due diligence. You need to investigate. You need to find that. And you know, because we're not in that society where you would want to say, okay, I need to pay a consultant. Because at some point you need to just consult and there's someone you need to just pay a fee. So just give you all of that advice and all of that. So you don't become a victim of all of this fraudulent element out there. I don't think everybody can afford a consultant and at the same time, I think there's people who actually do ask questions before they put money in these same fraudulent schemes. It doesn't seem fraudulent at first. But don't trust anybody with glasses and a bow tie that attends your church. But you have one. Or tattoo neck, sorry. Stay with us. We'll take a short break while we come back. After press, who begins and we get to look at the major stories, making headlines across Nigeria today. We'll be back.