 My name is Roger Stern and I am here at this workshop because we've already started doing some work together with SeaCrafts. We work a little bit in our institute, I'm a statistician I should tell you, and we've been working on the baseline survey. We've been working on data management and now we're working on helping to integrate the Met services more closely into SeaCrafts activities. I think everybody comes back to their own gap. One of the gaps I see is that social learning demands inclusivity of all the partners. One partner that often is admitted is the National Meteorological Service. They are the custodians of the climatic data. They are the people who can help us to define the risks that rain-fed farmers and many other people suffer because of the vagaries of the rain. They seem to be omitted from many of the discussions and I think adding them in a social framework is not going to be easy because Met services are inherently very top-down organisations but their omission is limiting the usefulness of some of the discussions on climate change.