 page here, but that little section here is a big, it could take up a half page, because it's very important that people understand that, regardless of if we, if the VONVO happens, it doesn't happen, we have to move forward with the project. So there is no, you know, we can wait until March to do another one, you know, we can wait until March to do another one, but now we're going to leave their funding. That's exactly the first thing you're going to lose, you're going to lose your first place. Right, so what will have to do with that? Well, we'll have to, you know, all regionally draft it, and then Tim and I will put over, and we, you know, made a couple of changes, and, you know, we were there on Thursday, but, you know, the other thing, too, is we did, Zoli did a nice piece before, and we could, and they were following it, but we could talk to someone at the payroll, we planned on doing, asking them to do another article, that is something that Tim and I could certainly bring up, we could sit down and do an interview, and bring it on to the chat, and we could do a campaign, or we could move out of finance. Because we all know how, you know, we could have two informational meetings here, which we will have, and, you know, probably 10% of the voting population are actually in show of these meetings. So a large majority are going to be what you're going to call uninformed voters that are going to go to the poll, based on this handout and what's scary is more so what their neighbor told them. You know, and all it takes is that telephone, you know, it just, it starts here, and it ends up on how we don't need voters, you know. So, I mean, that's the scare for them. Well, we'll do another, I had done one recently, we did a, last week, we did a Facebook and a website, and we're trying to trump Fort's form, to do another post game, to kind of keep it up, and then clarify that issue about, you know, if we don't do it now, we're probably going to lose our, we will lose our financing. So we'll focus on that. And I just, I just think it's, how do we get it through to the tax payers is that, that's a lot of money. Regarding us, it has to be important. So it's either going to be moving forward at a discounted price, or at a full boot camp price. I'd like to think that anybody that showed up to vote, would have enough education on the subject to vote. Yeah. That's what I'd like to believe. So is this brochure, is this done? Yeah, it's going to the, it's at Spalding Press. We had to, because we had to get it out in time for Monday. So we were running into the time, just doing it. I was thinking if you could reword that paragraph in a stronger way. Yeah, I can't now, sorry. We had to get it to work, because she was finding out to kind of squeeze us in, and we're going to get it out. And we had talked about, maybe getting a couple of postings thrown out. Put this information on, and obviously have one outside the polling station, where somebody can stop and read it, read it, and have it work. Or maybe the other one I was thinking of, maybe in the downtown area, we could put it on, like either that chalkboard, or you know, or the boards down there, for people to read. Yeah, the board just covered, so we could do something else. Or maybe, you know, maybe in the window of one of the shops they can do something, and that way people could stop and read it. I have it on my computer. I know about that. It's all double double. Penny is getting paper on her friend's, so she's going to run them tomorrow. And that's why I can ask her to blow up a couple for us, like we talked about this. And certainly, I'll pick out an email to Zoe, and maybe she can come down and do the night, and I'll get a little paper next week or the week after before that. So the only other thing I'm hearing is logistics. Right. People are kind of getting ahead, talking about how's it going to happen. Sure. How's traffic going to be. You're really good. Yeah, and there will be... There's no feedback. There's going to be the gold rounds. There's going to be... Well, there'll be one lane traffic open. So people will still be able to get down through Main Street. Have a conversation with Ryan Crowley about the water mat, and even if we just have to do a drop-off, so people can drop off, they're going to try to accommodate that course. And there'll be one lane of traffic open. They'll be able to bring big trucks down through those hardware. No, of course. Yes, absolutely. One lane of traffic will be open. Everybody will be able to get through the count. And he'll have to stop. There's hardware and all of it. Right. You know how it's going to work. Yeah, and you know what? They'll accommodate them. I mean, this isn't their first rodeo. You've certainly been through that. Whoever the contractor is, is going to have to deal with that sort of stuff. But, you know, it'll still be business as usual. People will be... Obviously, there will be parking on one side of this road, of course. But we're certainly... There will be more once we get a little further into the project. At least it works out. Because then they'll have a schedule. Right now it's 60% complete. Yeah, kind of similar schedule. But as it gets a little closer, he'll have one. We certainly will be articulating that in the downtown businesses and keeping them in the loop. The one lane is going to be on one side of the street. It's not going to be... Yeah, it's going to be on the... It's not going to be in the traffic lines. It's on the one side. It's in the parking lot. No? It's going to be in the road of travel. Yeah. And, you know, do I know there's at least one business that might, you know, pose for a few days to take advantage of that so they can get some maintenance done, some things that they need done in their business. And as we get further in and have the schedule, we'll certainly be sure to... One thing that we may want to look at doing, just because there probably will be a fair amount of local traffic that is going to use the sand hill. Oh, that's kind of sure, yeah. We probably want it in any bid that we do. We're probably going to want to have that maintenance. So what I mean by that is maybe the sand hill portion, we put some gravel down and have costs in there to maintain the gravel. And then maybe even, I mean, sand hill is getting kind of rough on the pavement, but maybe even if we got to put something on there, we're going to have extra traffic, right? And it says, and there's going to be some of those. I guess we just got to think of where are some people going to buy around this. And you probably want to have an address either at the town level or in the bid level of how we're going to maintain those sections of the road for a year. Right, and it may be one of the things, it may be that it's something for us to put extra money in the budget because it's not going to be extra money, it's not going to be in the bond. We already know the bond amount that's going out. So if that maintenance isn't in there, when we're doing our budget fall, that's something we should consider because whether we're going to pay a contractor to do it or we're going to do it ourselves, that 2.8 million is set. So, you know what I mean? The rest of the numbers. Well, it is, but it's not. Depending on the bids, right? I just don't know if I can... I got to think that we can figure in whatever, 50 or 100 grand with it. Well, you can figure it in. The only thing is that you can't figure it in now with the bond passes and then you've got to know what your costs are going to be. But if it's before, and it puts it over 2.8, you can't include it because it wasn't before. Right. Yeah. I'll let Wayne know. Elliott, you see, I'm sure he's done that before, but that's a great point, Chris. I never thought about the no stars of the tour, the traffic. So, I have a problem. I just need to know. I'll let Wayne know about in the meantime. Because a lot of times those are the things that get overlooked in the future. Oh, I totally agree. There are new routes that people take, and then we're thinking, oh, how are we going to maintain these routes? Well, you know, and if you've got, 18 wheels trying to go over Sand Hill and Bubon, you know, it's going to be a problem. Well, it might be some updated signs that say, no truck traffic. Exactly. Because, you know, you're going to have people finding ways around stuff. Yeah. Updated signs. You know, 15 wheels going up over Canterborough, you know, there's tons of GPS spells everywhere. Right, exactly. So, we can, I mean, a note about that. Updated signs. Do you want to start and date in mind? The next construction season, we'll have it out a bit until we'll probably start, you know, as early as we can. My guess would be May. Yeah. And then hopefully that will be done by November. I mean, I don't know yet because they're still, we're only at 60% complete in the design, but for us, that construction season, it will hopefully be less than that, but this is when we don't know. It also depends on when to date, whether they can't start a little bit later. So, it might be possibly as late as November. Absolutely. Yeah. Could be. I think you're my fourth one. I am. I'm... Oh, now you're reading my mail. Totally, we're away. I mean, there are some things that we can put into the contract about certain dates. And there are, and that's what... There's no work to exist on these dates. And that's what you said in here too because you've talked about that. Plus, there's incentives or financial incentives that if they don't get it, they get penalized in the contract. So, for dates, so... Yeah. It's the day of damages. Yeah. Absolutely. One thing that would be helpful for the information that you're doing anyways is, I mean, I like the section that talks about, you know, what is the projected impact of the current water rates. So, showing that, you know, this is how much it is a quarter. And then, by doing this work, this is what we see for an increase. But I think what would be, what would be nice to have for the informational meeting just to play the devil's advocate into that is, you know, this is what we're proposing, what it's going to be with a confirmed bond vote. But this is what it could be if we did pass the bond vote. And we had to wait until we might actually do another bond vote and we lost financial, you know, now we know there's, you know, from looking at this, that chances are what would happen is we would lose the 25, we could lose the 25% piece, right? Yeah. And then you could lose some of the galvanized pieces to that. You could, but it was first and first. Right. But chances are we would probably still get 50% piece because of the qualification. Yeah. So I guess what would be interesting to see is, if you took out the 25% piece, you know, maybe that rate, you know, I don't know, I said a $13 quarter meter that ends up being $30. You know, just so that people can see if we don't act on this, this is how much more you might have to pay for this because, because I think a lot of people are going to say, well, 2.8 million dollars, 2.8 million dollars. Right. But, but a lot more time we can, you know, 100, you know, whatever it is for a quarter per month is what we do. So, it might be something to have. Okay. Because, again, we're in a position where it's not like we're, we're saying, hey, we want to update our system and there's no push back for the state to do that. You know, we're in a different situation where the state is saying, listen, if you don't have things done by a certain date, we're going to have to step in and make you do something, right? The new reminders of that are for you. Yes, they do. Every chance they get would tell me, see them. Every time. Okay, those are great. Go along. You know, it seems like a big, it's like it's going to last all the year in the downtown merchant area. And it's really, it's going from 68 Main Street to 69 North Main Street. So you've got it all the way from the Church Street where it's the Bepple Mills. It really doesn't affect the downtown. And then you have it from telephone office all the way to the elderly house. It's got to be part of the project too. So when you take those two pieces out, you're not talking about the whole summer for just the downtown. The impact isn't as long as it may seem. We'll talk about it as long as maybe. I know some people will know he's working on a schedule so we'll have a better idea to with the informational time as you know. I think so. I think so. But it will be an impact because people will avoid it. Oh, yeah. It will be an impact. Yes, no doubt. But if we have water, it will be. Yeah, it's true. So, and then that will affect property values and everything else. Exactly. So, yeah. Unbelievable. Also, I've reached out to someone. Tim Raymond in the state did give me a name who someone in Waterbury sort of did reach out to them about they had a bigger project done. I sent her an email to see about possible financial assistance maybe for any of the businesses in the downtown area. So, I sent her an email up. Any questions in the public? Yeah. So, the area that's shown on here that needs to be worked on is that the whole project is just what you just said Main Street, North Main Street, Liberty Stable Road, et cetera, et cetera, those few roads. That's it for the whole project? Yeah, it goes from the Greenville parking lot to the Greenville parking lot. That's it. And then I have a specific question and if you can't answer it yet, that's fine. So, I live on the top of Agon and I'm just wondering am I, is that road going to be closed at some point? Well, you don't have the road because I don't have the road. It is going to be closed at some point but it will only be closed? Yeah, closed at some point. Is that going to be closed now? No. Well, we're actually trying to make it better than it is now. We have some other things that are going to be closed. As they work on it, they will be filled in back there to go down the road. It will be gravel. Yeah, it will be filled in there. It will be paved. It should be filled over here. Well, if it happens in the summer, it's not so good. Right. Yeah. There is a parking lot down here. Right. I think you have a, hopefully, that's nice. Any other questions or comments this evening? And we will have our first informational meeting will be next week. Six o'clock. Yeah, six o'clock Monday night. It will be done in the following Monday. We will have an informational meeting tagged on to the someplace. Yeah. Bring your friends home down so you can hear all about it. Thanks, Tim. Thanks, Tim. Yeah. Have a good evening. We have a conservation commission. So we have, first you want to go through the two new members that Yes, we have this force. They both have strengths and forest issues. We're doing a lot with the town force. So. Okay. And Katie O'Neill has resigned and I believe that Jennifer Stoff will be taking at least the lead of AdSense for a while for the second channel. So that's what we're looking for. Do you have terms? In the town report. Yes, we do. And I wasn't in the town report. I was I was there with my question was are they three here? Summer three or summer two? So what will Danny have to look and see? Probably we should do one at two and one at three. Yeah. Okay. Seeing what the town report I noticed that conservation was listed. No, we got left out again. I know we need to put that in and and I wrote it online this time. And listen as if we are not physically. I know. Exactly. And I wrote it on this time conservation. So I wanted to know what you're what you're doing. And I'm going to see Libby for our next meeting this Saturday at four twenty eight pleasant street that will be a conservation commission. Open meeting and Mary Russ will be there and we will be talking about the next steps in the process and naming the site possible uses parking area trails a new access and of course the 50 foot platform which will be planted by the partnership. So all those things have just picked the workman sign. Is the deal done? I know the closing was completed on October 1st. So you'll end up having like a little written ceremony at some point. We may even do something with the naming process. So this is the first discussion of what's really going to happen. And the town portion hasn't happened yet. So a lot of come to the sign. I've talked with your her name and two years. So just to stay consistent with the appointments. So for Danny and Chris we need to send us a letter of interest and probably with that letter it may want to be the two-year, one of the three-year. So we have that and then at the 28th meeting as long as we have that we'll just you know motion. There's no issues with putting them on board. It's just to keep it you know consistent. So we'll do that because we ran into that a while ago with some committee members that maybe didn't intend to do that. So you know because they do go on the website and you know they should be appointed for a certain term. So we'll expect that at the next meeting. We want to take us through the board. And don't forget you'll be Yeah we probably didn't have a letter for that too. It's there Oh, a letter of resignation? It was an e-mail form. Okay. So I would entertain a motion to accept a letter of resignation for Katie O'Neill for the Conservation Commission. Two. Second. Okay. No favor. Okay. And there has a proposal. Yes. Thank you. I'd have a request to cut some trees in the granular town forest. It was around 12 trees to make two viewpoints at the at the end of the trail. There are a few other trees going up the trail. There were some trees that had just fallen across the trail and there was a pair of trees that had half uploaded and had gotten caught in another tree but they're leaning right over the trail. So you feel like we need to cut those just to keep the trail safe. And then up at the top there's two spots that I was looking at for viewpoints. Each spot would be cutting around six trees to make viewpoints The first one as soon as you get to the plateau at the top would look at the Bethel fire station and then you go another 50 feet or so and there's another viewpoint that would look at the school. I walked up there with A.J. Fallensby the Windsor County Forester on September 25th and we with his GPS we marked out some boundaries because it's right at the top right in the corner of the town boundaries and all the trees were within 60 feet from the property lines using that GPS and his GPS he said had a mark of error of give or take 30 feet. So I got John Heartland he's the artistic arborist lives on P9 all the guards there to his leader Tom Trigger Oh he is? Yeah Okay Yeah We're just talking with him and asking if he'd help us he he was spitting out all kinds of things he I can tell he has a lot of knowledge so I was just looking forward to going up there with him so yes he's agreed to help us cut the trees and you know upon approval we'd figure out where it'd be with him and a couple of members and any other volunteers to go and we'll do this Will there be a pass to the town for his on board? No he said he'd volunteer so yeah yeah he's going to do it We're just going to tell them and leave them there it's on a pretty steep slope and you know John was saying all the tree buds and everything make excellent fodder for deer in my life and tree pylons and branch pylons make good habitat for other birds and everything so we're just going to leave it there you know it's possible a firework for someone but it's on such a steep slope I did notice that going up to the water reservoir there there was just a lot some decent work done right that looks great it's going to be a thing but there's a lot of trees there and I don't know yeah I have to ask the utility director what the plan was but yeah we had to do a lot of work there and did you notice how clean the tank is because Morgan got a lot of pressure washed up it was like a week you know it was so clean up there and had road work done as well as you know right it looks great thank you yeah it was very nice walking up there there was a low balance so much more accessible yeah stuff falling on the tank so it was part of the honestly part of the state wanted to so we think it would be a great little feature for the trail and hopefully attract some more hikers and everything up there and so the conservation commission everybody was behind the project so I mean I know not speaking to the board members but you know typically the you know these committees are put together to to run a certain pass you know so it's like we don't have to do that you know you didn't have to watch the line and the committees and you know but I guess my opinion on it just like we've done with the recreation committees and other committees like that is you know the task is a job of you know in this case making sure that we're managing our force you know and this is something that the committee has agreed on doing and you know I had to back myself and you know I'm not the other members but you know the time for your I actually I've walked up twice I think over the last two years with the commission to that spot to talk about it and so yeah I've seen I've seen the area I mean it may not be exactly the same trees that you've looked at I feel like they've done their research generally thought through the plan and talked to all the right people you know this isn't just like rushing into this idea so okay on the agenda part of that is the trail use the one that Chris Ford drafted that trail use agreement that had to go because of the between the town and Dennis Woods for he sent me a mail saying that you had to do it for because of the state in order to receive grants so I just had the draft from the select court tonight in case they had any questions so I was nice to them to do that and then so he just said he it relates to that the school force trail system is a requirement of the state in order to secure grant funding to include these banner trails and that's what he just basically modified the sample and then he said so that's also on here tonight and then can you get us a copy of that just for information yeah for the next have you seen here my help move it up there oh that's right that's right who is that with who else was there it was Mark and yeah so there were these two other people right there even on the picture when I walked up to AJ you know how to take a picture of me on the bench for the where am I oh nice yeah Newark rules yeah it's a great spot yeah so thank you for that and I would just stress if there if there is any resources off of the job that can be used for other means that is going into the the wood job for the kids or you know I understand that there are some of these areas that are probably more of a hassle to move the material out there just to create an habitat there but if there is any opportunities to sell the materials on donation and the things that's that's either going to the middle school or yeah talking about that yeah great maybe trade you guys some some signs for the new property or oh I thought you were going to say labor for materials oh that too okay thank you yes for the discussion there is a concentration commission so probably maybe in spring there will be some sort of ceremonies like a street property making or earlier than that or well we do something challenging again yeah I think a contest or something oh it's a great idea to get people involved maybe not a contest but it was a good idea it's a good idea just as a slight aside I don't want to take a little long time but for the forward festival I had a cloth on display and this woman who grew up here she moved away in the 50s she had done all different scenes in Beppel and one of those scenes was what she called butternut beach which is directly across from that piece of property and it's down from North Maine and that's where the kids in Beppel swam in the 40s and 50s yeah so that's our first trailer told me a couple of stories about theternut beach so there is a lot of history yeah if you need it we could get some people to write up a little things about it or the memories I'm sorry well thank you yeah the P-Gyne invention of repair we have through our ongoing team of projects you know just wrap up our last couple last time we get done with the P-Gyne right there and this one is for the engineering for the embankment repair on P-Gyne probably you've all seen the barrel of the kiln out there so you know there's you know there's more than meets the eye there we're getting that fixed correctly and probably most of it's happened over a large amount of time not necessarily the FEMA event but I forgot well it got pretty hard for so tonight we're awarding the bid for the engineering portion of it and then there'll be a separate bid for the work one that we you know when this is done they have to end on this February I think it's going to be not how he finds it's going to be the bank and that culvert and we just don't have a choice because we're you know we need to get done because the time frame from which FEMA you might be able to get done prior to the wire if you're doing it as soon as the mail go out as soon as the culvert engineering I know no it's just a picture that they took just a copy of their proposal no matter it's a picture so exact location of the project they're both this one is the embankment here where it drops right off if you're headed towards Stockbridge using p-line then it's right up just past on the left almost across the sand pitch on the left and it's right there and it stops straight down yeah that's that's the well prepared so basically it's just deep right into the road to where payment goes straight down and then up the road a little further is where that big culvert that's in place as well so that was good out we awarded that from a different engineer so um so the do-voicing team was obviously was the only better um we also I did speak to our district um district supervisor for district 4 and he spoke with some other people and were happy with the work that they had done so prepared um and um we'd also met spoken with D&K and they're gonna fix their price like this is teams um depending on changes which is a nice option so um so and we also I also asked um just before they checked and said they felt like that was a good price for the for engineering it wasn't over inflated so it'd be nice to get it awarded because that really I can have meeting and get it started and that gets processed going so this frame of work is our and I well my shop increased both met with D&K and the last two weeks um you know was guaranteed by the owner that he himself oversees the project you know himself um to accept the library and so um you know we could have some issues everybody's their second chance we've done a lot of work and this was a bit out process so um and well I think this is a female processor we've done with the federal bridge so that being um so um that being we had one bid on the engineering and do you have the bid amount on that it's on the $70,191 yep yep so I would entertain a motion to award the engineering of the p-line bank that appeared to Du Bois King the name had $78,020 so second all favorite hopefully this is the last movie that will be we're so close I can't I can't wait to take that chunk of time back yeah so you know FEMA update wise we are so all four of the what we call the large gravel road some projects that have been completed we did add some extra Colbert work to use one of the contractors for the end of the Camp Bell road so we'll be doing that here in that group too yeah he's upgrading the temporary yeah and that will also help the issues that we have there well with Mr. Cowder I didn't get a call I haven't called back yet but that'll take care of the majority of the issues with Calgary there'll still be some localized cleanup you know they spoke over the road bar yeah so that will be so the gravel roads wise all four of them came in under budget from estimate I would say that all there was two two companies that did four of them yeah I think that all the work that was done was done professionally and looks good it's been quite good feedback in regards to it as well as our panel crews have been out there doing add-on pieces to their project staff as well so as far as the gravel road stuff goes everything has been accomplished Christine said she drove across the bridge the panel it looks good panel bridge it looks very nice is in so that has been accomplished the temporary bridge and then these I didn't happen to notice the trees the trees are out the few trees that were able to move are gone and Camp Brook road is officially open on both sides of the mountain we will say that ours was open first but yeah as of what was it last weekend Friday night Friday night beautiful yeah so we can go to the mountain the easy way now so that's all been done and then you know rough on the theme of what we got rough on these ones that we have some engineering out Geico water the Geico the pump station is done and the whole road I think maybe just getting finishing touches they're not done I've not spent this week but just the engineering and the planning do you have any work up here to junior board residents or anything like that that is yeah that's called permanent work and we will be on the for ten percent of that and Chris Bum is aware of that he's going to have to once you decide probably that you have this permanent work and they have to come out and do an inspection oh it's a process but probably that'll go out on this point to get that we'd like to do some bank mint reinforcement but I'm not sure as far as the female stuff goes the goal was to get everything done by the end of October that's pretty much all happened there's a couple of these random one area projects that will happen for next year everything's been done Therese is now into the Therese and I have been taking a week to go outsolve them to GPS the pipes and measure every square foot but we're getting through that so that so that the more update information we have on our paperwork we'll be getting our reimbursement faster so hopefully by the end of the year we'll start to see some cash flow any questions where's the female works so Therese what is the next step for the next year so the next step is in my mind is putting out a bid to have a hydraulic study well first of all I didn't talk about Army Corps of Engineers because we know that the state has its own rules and then the Army Corps of Engineers somehow also has a set of rules so but it looks like the next step for us would be to put out we need to have an engineering study done so an engineer would have to do that probably taking a couple of weeks for the first computer module but you need to have that in place so that you can design the permanent bridge so would you do this or would it work? I I don't know hopefully in the next couple of months we'll put that out to bid for that because we do have a couple of years which is nice so the hydraulic study will have to be done first but what I'd like to see is a design build I actually think what we should do is the town could purchase a Navy bridge that would look just like the bridge that's there except for the fighter so that we could put a town drop or something over it because the town purchases a Navy bridge it goes fast the installation goes fast we don't have to be in the river other than maybe a bridge over a temporary and that comes out and then if we took some suggestions that were given that night Jim and Dylan you know if you went a little bit farther then you can go farther out of the river and so that if the river as it comes up and floods which it will do the span will be higher it will be higher over the river and it will be further away so anything that's a road will keep it in place the great thing about a Navy bridge is there it's not as expensive as we tried before like a concrete decking and that whole thing it's going to be pretty expensive I think that we could probably get a hundred two hundred thousand to get it like thirty somewhat years I think and so I think that was when I it was a while a couple of months ago or so that I spoke to the gentleman about it but we've all seen in place for over thirty years it's not going to be no traffic and there won't be and there also won't be salt on it it could be done in three years right but that was one of the things about putting it up higher you know seeing it higher and longer so okay it actually as the river you know the wideness so the first step is going to be the hydraulic study and speaking to the Army Corps for two years but like I said we have two years to get the permanent bridge at this point we've got this one in place so bought us a little bit of time and I'd like to see it over the winter to get you know the high jobs but yeah plus I want to start with Army Corps engineers to see what groups that we have to jump through with them that may be different than what the state requires so but for now we used to but it's access to the house and all it's to hope that way put in a permanent bridge that I like the idea of expanding longer because as the river as that bank changes you know you just need to be proactive you know Chris has done that with FEMA making sure that ditches are deeper that they're stone lined we're trying to carry water we're going to flood so let's try to think a little bit more outside the box now we can get a permanent bridge so that's what we're going to have between now and early next summer we'll be just doing the hydrological study so that we can you know at this point figure out what the river is doing or it'll also map out what the river will do with the next X amount of years so that we can see what the next step is on a permanent bridge or what type of bridge what comes out is they tell you basically how high after the river needs to be what the span should be so they get some ideas let's make this span a little bit bigger just so we're not doing this again and you know how do they have access to the house before he even sees them all last month I'm only happy with that I'm glad that you're happy with the project it came out nice I think that they're willing for an excavation doing a really nice job do they definitely nail it to be more related just one comment yep I don't know what the material is they use on what stuff you said you were going to put two inch on what you had I wasn't I don't know what it was yeah came out of it rich newly made oh yeah I will say because I are you talkers because I have been traveling on lots of I've traveled on every gravel road and that's true which I didn't know before but I know all the metal but I will say you know traveling in other towns right now that you know I know that our gravel roads a bit of a disarray this spring and early summer but I will say right now that they are in better condition if not better than most of the towns in that area of course I say that we're going to get two inches of rain tomorrow and choppy but you know and that's not just the contractors that have done work for the FEMA I mean our town workforce has been up here working hard to get the other ones on the fire so I think we're heading in the right direction again we can't turn the whole shift in one year but we'll we'll keep working on all these gravel roads but so we have the trail use agreement that Jason is talking about that Chris scores so thanks but I just wanted you guys to see it in advance he just said he detached the draft of the Dennis Wood 10 year landowner trail use agreement for our review and keep everybody up to date this relates to the Bethel school forest trail system and the requirement of the state in order to grant families improvements in the trails if they're on a combination of public fire plans he said I've modified the agreement that had all the blue plate requirements that they wanted and just that was him and that was his CC batchers on it so I just thought you guys might like to see it before you know I just wanted to give Chris some feedback I didn't know anybody had any concerns it does which witness certainly does look like it's pretty there's nothing for us to sign no I just wondered if you had any concerns I think it was nice he did down here which I was happy to see he you know there certainly was landowner protection imported he has some statutes which I was happy to see that he had folded it in and as Dennis was seeing I don't know if that's a question for Chris I'll have to ask him I don't know the only thing Oh yeah like I said the only thing I would say is that you know the signatures that have been signed by myself or the chair of the Recreation Committee doesn't have standing behind them so I think we don't know about it but I think but I'll ask but did anybody have any concerns no they've been doing great job with the trail the trail maintenance and the new trail was there so it's a nice improvement and nice to happen but you just want to give then I didn't want to see it before it came up and then you were surprised by it but I'll tell them there was no concern that it worked thank you thank you the amended resolution for the municipal planning grant they've been waiting patiently there's some grants in the queue that I can't do anything with so the like they called him they do something like we'll get the sign just so I can get into the it's called the gear system it's to be called intelligence and I can get some grant stuff through and get it out of the queue so that's just for you to sign I think it's actually for you to sign or the whole board to sign on the second on the last page you're just saying that I have the ability to go in and deal with the grant stuff but on the final page it has the I don't have to make a motion for that or just sign it I don't think we should make a motion because it's a I think we should make a motion to adopt the amended resolution for the municipal planning grant make a motion to adopt the amended resolution for the municipal planning grant on paper just like to execute the grant agreement and stop meeting minutes for September 23 accept the motion to accept the meeting minutes of September 23 to move second second I just had a question we had to heard from a fellow with the phone information no I haven't heard anything from him I asked him for the information and I spoke to him on the phone yeah it was solid waste board anything more key is in on solid waste board so other than we targeted manager and Jennifer Brackleman check this on every sign retire retire he'll be upset it was a nice article and paid for we had some recreational meeting minutes and did she was going to come in the day but it looks like what I was going to do moved to the 28th end of the year update on pool yeah energy committee so there was a lot of committee here over the last couple of weeks I made a rescheduled later appointment to know about the update on the point and I had a couple of questions then the general fund budget status so hard this time you only get used to like getting dark at six o'clock drinking by the time you get to eight o'clock in the summertime you're like wide awake it's 11 o'clock and right now it's like I'm like man what time is it this feels like it's still late but getting into that I had a couple of push oh if you write my notes all night yeah I was like what are the notes that I had hold on so I had there was a couple of items that were over census or revenues or what they ran through cost so we had I noticed that fuel diesel was that 37% year-to-date a little higher than the budgeted he doesn't get regular deliveries they become like every month or something yeah and then so that's my take off the other one I had and I didn't know where he was at but you know obviously we don't call on the salt yet he just started he actually did but the gravel the sand we had talked about it looks like he's hauled in the budget amount of sand but we talked about and you know 50% more sand than the less salt he doesn't plan to haul more sand in yes he does plan to haul more they're going to be hauling in the next like in the rainy days so when he did orders to haul obviously he had that deliver so that he's not was on hand he's not caught without so yes he was planning on bringing it more and Mo was telling me about the winter maintenance maintenance class that they went to about calibrating the salt and what was it 300 pounds per mile 300 pounds per mile is what we and figuring that out we would have more than the budget so and I did speak to H.A. about that calibrating the machinery and he thought that they probably had everything on hand but they needed to be able to do that so he's covering now on some a couple things on that and yeah we obviously did not give Alan a target number here to say you're going to spend 50 in sand and reduce your salt life you know he's obviously he understands that plan but he also last year we got a lot of freezing rain and ice so he's concerned about you know making that decision right now so he's certainly going to haul in sand and he needs a little bit of salt and he's going to hopefully play it right here because I think we have 130,000 we have 130,000 in between sand and salt mm-hmm because we're on the road and I think the goal is to try to make it 100 yeah and conserve 30 of that salt that's the goal is the first bucket to conserve and then it sounded like from from what A.J. and no one was saying from going to that class that it sounds like it's very doable especially on the salt and the it sounded like our our calibrations and our trucks probably weren't right correct so we're putting more salt on the roads than the road needed mm-hmm so I'll let him know the application of you know they just extensively on the application how to A.J. or Allen with no more than I do okay so I'll let him know that between salt and sand you're looking at him to spend 105,000 between the two is what you're saying between salt and sand right you want to spend you want to not spend 30,000 dollars worth of basically salt I want to know I'd be curious if it's possible to find out what that cost in my right now I'm not sure in my bill I mean he might be able to keep tabs of that this year right he could keep tabs of certain roads mm-hmm well I do believe that they have access to some software that would help them with that that they need to have more pressure forced in or even if it's not exact that they said you know we put you know I think you know X amount of yards up there okay and then and then it'll give us a little better information to go on and burn for the season sure I'll ask I'll just pick a road probably can't go it's probably the better road to do it on right sorry when you're talking salt and sand or the down and down you know how much material well you know maybe we'll do both us because Adam the track can't broken more than the down and down I have more trouble keeping doing the salt application with more than spread yeah right together we're leaving different and you know you're going to be able to trickle it on but you really he didn't use as much salt last year I think the majority of salt went on camp right I guess there's no point about how the best place to apply it is spread on people right he did tell me he needs to go out and we'll do that yeah so I was looking so we're under the repairs parts and tires for town equipment so we're currently at 46% yeah um so I don't know how it's over budget based on the percentage of salt it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's and um but um because oh you okay thank you you know that the so it's had some work done on it. And we mentioned the past and what it was, but honestly. It was, I don't know, looking at the invoice for that, it's probably in the big stack that we got there. It was a necessary maintenance. Yeah, it was. I don't know if there were break, not break lines, break pads, and necessary stuff. It wasn't part of the package that we talked about. Right. And I will do it. I know he also, he was sending the trucks, I think it was last Thursday, that they went up to HP to have some work done on them. And he's still getting, he's got his two plows over, the metal beam here. So he's feeling really good about winter. He feels like he's coming into the winter in better shape than he has been in the last two years. He's got tires, he's got, you know, from the working and he's feeling good about that. They end up doing a bunch of the work themselves on the lower, taking their part. And doing the radiators and the other work, they end up doing that themselves, which saved his money. And so, but I wouldn't even know if to ask him about that. Yeah, I just didn't know whether they were out with that or if that number reflected what they'd done in. I spoke to him about that, about what he is on, his schedule to get those repairs done. He was aware that the money was allocated in the capital fondant. Yeah, because that was pretty much the deal that he made with them. Yeah, absolutely. Not getting a new truck, but taking a portion of that money and using it towards updating the necessities of the equipment or something. I'll look at the detail. We're here as a buyer, but I didn't know that he had purchased buyers to the sewing labs in here. Yeah, let's do the budget at this point or any of the other. No, if I could just take for a second the two rivers, give you an update on the two rivers project that's going on. I went to the meeting of the commissioners in September 25th, and there, every so many years, they go through the entire regional plan and the update, make changes, as times grow and things change over the times. And so, they're looking at the final risk of changes that they've made for this year. And the controversy that has arisen with this is based on whether or not two rivers was founded by statute, a group that dictates policy as opposed to suggesting policy, using words like shall and will instead of words like should and as much as possible, things like that. So there's a big rule of law going on with that, especially from the town of Hartford. The lady who runs the planning commission in Hartford wrote this nine page dissertation, citing every statute that was used to create the two rivers and how they should give examples of how it was not meant to be something that dictates policy. It's impacting them because they've made some changes that are going to affect the preachy, gorge commercial area where they have all the tourists stuff and they're not going to be able to utilize some of that in the way that the town has already approved to use it. And then also the town of Bratford has the same thing going on. There's a strip of highway coming out of Bratford that they have designated as commercial, by the planning commission and the select board and everybody and the two rivers is basically saying, you can't do what you want to do there. So they're up in arms about that. So that's why these changes haven't gotten voted on. If you can push that further and further is having these kinds of discussions. So the next meeting is scheduled for October 30th. I think they're going to try and vote on it again. Are there any potential issues locally like us? Yeah, the only thing that would impact the Bethel was the town plan for Bethel had the Wilkish Creek area set up as a hamlet. And two rivers, regional plan did not reflect that. So they changed their plan to reflect what we've done in the town plan. That's all that impacted Bethel. I think it'll be really interesting to hear the outcome of this because I'm in agreement that I don't, my personal opinion is that they, that I don't believe that they should be setting policy either now when it, that's the state, that's a town's job and sometimes you vote on zoning. So, and I like obviously two rivers in the work that they do, but you'd be up in arms too if we were banging on, if we were banging your commercial district and then it kind of agreed. So it'll be interesting to see how it, by the fall I'm very interested in hearing the outcome of that because I understand that they do so much good and the boy, you know, you're charged with your own talent, it would be interesting that somebody else would come in and say, you can't do that. I mean, the state does all the time. And there's a middle of the exchange up in Randolph too. Yeah. The folks from Randolph are there for me, and they are very upset. Oh, right. About some of the definitions and wording in the, not so much in the changes, but in the actual plan that two rivers have that calls out how to exchange and what it has to, how it has to be set up. Anything that requires out to 52 rivers is automatically the trusted partner. So they're in the pitching against, you know, development up in that area. And that's hard too, right? For them to go up against them, they want two rivers backing them in that typically not opposing. I mean, I always, and before I got on the board and it was really too much about two rivers, I mean, I always assumed what two rivers did is they worked as a liaison between the town and the state in either direction. So that could either be towns looking for their footprint of legislation going up and for legislators to use two rivers as a funnel down to the town. It doesn't seem like that's exactly the way that it's being done and that's probably why I heard certain some of them. It's getting a little bigger and just that, right? That's why it's great that Paul's going. He can ask the board because it's, I mean, there's so much information it's hard to be in and I want everything to sound and it's great that he's going. Thanks Paul. Oscar? Hello. So Oscar, I, next time maybe for the 28th meeting like the Friday report, you could give me your reports and put them in the back of your head. Oh, won't you, okay? Hey, you know, Kelly usually does that since she's out and then you can do that. Sure. Would you, or are you just here to listen or? I was here to entertain any questions, answering any questions, then a quarter. I think all of you guys wanted to hear from me and how things are going, so some polls that I have with some of the stuff that I've ordered. I don't have a really good setting here. So, being that this is my first time meeting with you guys in this capacity. So I guess I'll have to entertain any questions that you might have, that's really short questions. I guess we'll throw it back at you first. That's all. So what do you have for questions in regards to, you know, you've had some time on the job right now. Based upon, I guess, the question I'm having is what questions do you have for us based on the expectation that we have set and now having some time on the job and you know, either achieving those expectations or needing more guidance or. All right, I'll throw this at you. So since I took over, I've answered 94 calls. I've made 200% of the stops. I see that there's an issue of speed of traffic on Camp Brook Road right now. It seems to be since the Rochester issue of the road opening, it's a regular drag strip. And I'm using my own language because I was stopping people today for 2017 over the 40. I do cover the Gilead Bridge project. Trying to get people to slow down from the construction going on there. Since I started to review, I did stop somebody for DUI, I did one of my calls as an underage drinking party. I advanced, advanced curing from aggravated assault, aggravated, not aggravated assault but an aggravated stopping in which that's now in the state police taking over that investigation. I have done one of the choice in case with the school, the school grade, your school staff is awesome, it's great to be here. I wanted to interject that my daughters have come home, they were talking this weekend and they said, of course this is their language. The new police guy came to the, and did some stretching with us during the PE class. Oh, the look on your face. He's doing push-ups and stuff. Yeah, he's doing push-ups with the mineral. I'm guessing going, he's doing push-ups. So it's good that that involvement with the school. That definitely was one of the expectations that we had laid out there was to make sure we had a relationship with the school. They're great, the kids here are great. Now is there any, and I don't know how it's set up in this town, but you know, typically most towns in any way, you have some sort of police identity that's in the parking lot for a constable or something else. And then the school has their own enforcement piece of a truancy officer or what. Are you a student resource officer or an SRO? Well, it all changes every school set of those different names. They're not required to have a SRO. No. Some schools do, and the high schools. But what I, So I just said you don't wear that guidelines like right now with truancy. Oh. The town function or that school function or? It used to be back in the day. They used to appoint truancy officers. They still do. They still do. The truancy officer provide. And it's Andrew and your Andrew... Oh, and so they use the principle but they don't actually have a truancy officer. No, definitely. And under the statute, I don't read any of the greater of the consequences of the town function. And they didn't reach out to you about it. Yeah, they had an issue where they didn't want to go to the place alone. So I assisted them. And they're very appreciative of it. We do coordinate with them to help them with their evacuation bills. Providing safety and security for the students along with the fire department. They have a big response to that. One of the things I've done is talking, I go around and check for residents' houses that they need to town for a length of a year at a time if we have a few that go to Florida. I'll go and check the house for them if you look at what I call community checks. Part of the committee you want that they have all around the world street, St. Andrews Road. One of the concerns I'm having is this speed sign. The lane number. The batteries last like a lot of things. We need either to give them to be solar powered or replace those batteries outright because they're not lasting. How do we think we can be more beneficial and cost effective over the solar power? I don't think we need to replace the whole sign. You could buy an external solar powered source to charge the batteries on those speed signs. Although there's new, there's actually new requirements now that the signs, it's crazy. Like they're not supposed to flash repeatedly and if you're under, they're not gonna think you're under the speed. They're not supposed to do anything as much as you're working. So we have people, I think we can actually, between $6,000 and $8,000 were grant that's sitting out there in the ether for us. We talked about this a little bit with Marcus Constable. Now that we kind of worked out with the state, I was able to talk to somebody out there who got Oscar and hooked up with Robins who were acting as a sub-grantee. So we're hoping that once he's underway, we can reach back out to Jim Bastar, something like that. His last name, I see. If we can't access that money because I have pricing on those signs, which is old now, but Greg had given me quite a lot, but it's our hope. Greg was looking into the solar capabilities because we had talked about that in the past. He gave me the pricing and the make of the sign and stuff because so we're hoping that once Oscar, now they're just participating in that, that we'll be able to get that money because the state agrees that we earned it, but they couldn't allow us to have it because of the time we weren't participating in the grant. So we're hoping that we can do that. So that's been Oscar's right, that they sold our power. Because now you're always trying to keep batteries changed, they just don't hold the charge very well. The other thing is too, Oscar had sent me some information and then I have gone online and done some of my own search and in the next couple of months after the theme, after a couple of things here, I'm working on a job description for Oscar as well as road crews and draft and we're working with those so everybody will have job descriptions and for Oscar's been helpful. He also sent me all of his training certificates so I didn't put those in his enforcement. We just recap a bit on the government and I would say to grant, we did get 16 extra hours, eight hours, the UI enforcement and eight hours occupancy, what they call occupancy protection, basically go around and look for people for safety issues like no seat belts, speeding. And it's a very intense eight hours of traffic enforcement not to make so many stops, I mean, so many contacts. And how long was that last year? How long was that last year? How long was that last last year? Is that like a year thing? No, it's a year, sorry. It's a year. Is it close to my answer? I thought it was like for a period of 21. So 16 extra weeks, 16 extra hours a week for a year. How many weeks a year? I'm not gonna argue with it. I don't think it's a year. I can probably pull up the email. For some reason, I think that they used to, they used to look at a ticket and get a new stuff. But that was also a weird way to check, look at a ticket and get a UI. It's a structure different than what we're used to. I went all through Cappuccino and Rutland County and they were either one of us. But I think it's a year and I think it started, it starts in 9, 10, 2020. Oh, that's it? I believe, that brings, that's what my eyes, my eyes say. So it's almost a year. So essentially the town is getting 36 hours of patrol a week. So how do you do that? You spend, you just separate and say, I'm gonna spend one eight hours, they just completely focus on this or do you say, I don't spend two hours a day throughout the week doing that? I don't have a system. No. No, I just. You can do it either way. Yeah. Yeah, so you do it. I can do two hours OP, do eight hours regular, go in the states, night time, turn around and do four hours of DUI until 1.30 in the morning. As long as I don't roll over that 16 hours. So now on the DUI, you and I were chatting a little bit about DUI cases. Yeah. A few days ago, the strings that are attached to a DUI events are long. In the case of if you pull somebody over for DUI, then you get a follow through that whole formal process to the courts, which is more than eight hours with the quarter. Yeah. So it might be something that going forward that you may have to budget some, well, and then our budget is him having some administrative time because what's happening now is, even when he's not on one of these special programs, let's say he pulled somebody over in town for DUI. And I can't remember how many hours do we have? A lot of that, 20. So if he's got 20 hours a week right now, since he was last, and he pulled somebody over for DUI, that formal process is gonna probably take out a majority of his time for that week. You know, somehow, you know. It can take, it can take, let's say, okay, I pick up a person with DUI, process it can take anywhere between an hour or two hours, unless there's like major injury involved and it gets extended. And then you get all the paperwork done, and then you gotta go back, and you gotta write up your app, your supplement app, and you gotta, you get discovery, you get a process like discovery. I mean, this whole DUI could end up costing, I'm not gonna say it's gonna cost you any reference to money, but in time, it can be easily a six or eight hour endeavor when you try not to totalize it all. And not only that, but you have other stuff too. I mean, you have to document, document, document, and you have to manage great time. Fortunately, we've been able to, I've been able to offset that and juggle it around. So I try not to be in the office. That's my office, is that thing with the big billboard on there, the blue lights, where I try to be most of the time. So can some of that grant money go total to administrative stuff or is that grant money? I would like to say yes. I'd like to say yes, but when you do the agreement, you do so much and that's so many hours period. So there is some administrative offset that I do have to pull out of the room for 20 hours. But fortunately, with the way I've got things set up, I can do a lot of that roadside sitting. And if you ever drive by and I'm doing this, you know, if you drive by and I don't say hi and I'm looking at my laptop, it's usually because I'm either doing a crash report or a DUI or an accident. We're just doing a bug reporting to keep you guys abreast of what's going on and be able to document what I'm doing and. But like in general, you know, we, you know, when we look at the budget, we see 20 hours in there. We're assuming that's 20 hours of patrol time, but the more strings that are attached to various different instances, you know, the more time it's gonna take away from him and this seems like, you know, more strings get attached to these things nowadays. And it's probably something that we wanna look at that 20 hours today is not the same as 20 hours. No, it's not. The paperwork, the quantity paperwork and I can't believe it's less than that. This is the stacks I used to see at the police department taking me to the state attorney's office was just almost insane, you know, to see the stacks of paper that everything we have to get and stuff. And I know you're gonna, you know, now the late-level submit it electronically, but before it is, it's crazy. And it does take a lot of time to talk about it. And you never know what he might run into, you know, I mean, and it's not like he can say something. No, I can't. I'm gonna let this person off because then something happens reliable for, or it could be, you know, he could pull somebody over in town and then discover drugs or something and then have to go through that whole process. Here's, let's, I'm gonna use your whole drug thing. Let's say I do pull somebody over and I find 695 bags of heroin and so on and so forth. I have, they're over 20 hours like that. It almost instantaneously. Because the next day I gotta come in and I've got an inventory at all. I've got a document at all. I've got to write my affidavits. I've got to investigate witnesses. I'm not trying to scare you, but that could feasibly happen. But fortunately, with the mobile office and the satellite, my main office, that cruiser in the office, is my satellite at this. That's a spot for people to come and see me. Graciously, I've got my little cubby wall now. It's not that I like it. That, I bring you, I think first you make a valid issue there. That down the road. And I know our main appointment of him is really to do speed enforcement, animal control, and then have a community presence. But we just have to, you know, there are some of those instances that will have to, that will take away from this time. And it might be something that we may have to think about a little more. I know this past budget, we turned down the extra hours. But we might want to start thinking about the 20 hours is what we want as patrol allies. How many hours are we going to give a week to do administrative functions? Is that next week? Well, you know, what is that to make things flow? Or we're going to end up losing instead of 20 hours of patrol, it might be 10 hours of patrol, and parts of industry, you know? How do we want that to look? We will have to start looking at that. The travel fair is, I've used, you can tell me, Oscar, don't be doing any other stuff. Throw me into traffic, and do all kinds of traffic stuff. But in reality, the traffic stops is what generating the other stuff, the bigger stuff. Right, yeah, sure. It's, if I make a stop, and, hello, if I make a stop, and I lock up with that car, and go, whoa, I ran the thing to smoke or drink lately? And the first thing you're going to see is on my video, I'm going up there, I already suspect that they're drunk. I can't let them go, I have to go through that process. Right. And let's say I make that stop, and there's that little plastic baggy on the console, with a little heart shape. Gee, that looks like a heroin act. Do I let them go? Or do I keep doing what a police officer should do and investigate further? Is there any opportunity, I'm sorry you interrupted me. No, I don't have a stop. If you do make a stop, let's say a traffic stop. You're in town, in the middle of the limit, somewhere in a chapel, and make a stop of a DUI, or a suspected person on a carrying drug or something like that. At that point, can you turn it over to the state police, or do you have to follow through on that, or? It's my, it's my fish. Yeah. It's under control, so you catch it, you clean it. And plus, I'm the investigating, I'm the initializing officer. So if you take the mechanics of the case, I'm the one who created the probable cause of the stop. State's attorney would like to see that guy follow through the case, and bring it to the adjudication of the patient, and it's really not a good idea to keep pawning stuff off like that. It's not statutory, it's just you're saying it, it's kind of unworthy. It's not a great approval. Right. Plus. But B.S.T. will still do stuff when officers not in duty. Oh gosh, yes. They don't do any stuff, they'll still, they're called, though. Well, but when he's on duty, he can escape to them. Yeah, they don't, exactly. So that means they, I'm forgotten, right? Well, no, not always. There's, because remember when you guys hired me, you hired me because I had a higher training of them. Okay. There's still stuff I can't do that I will have to give to the state police. If one of those incidents happened just recently, I can't do those investigations. But anything that I'm capable of doing and within the scope of my training, they want me to do it. If I can't do it, or I'm doing OP, Governors Highway Safety, they know I'm not gonna take calls if I'm doing Governors Highway Safety, because that's a different type of an environment for me or patrol. So there is a way that I can back out, but it's not very well-liked. Like, I can be an off-bearer. They want to see me do my job. And I would agree with you, I've noticed lately in town, and maybe it's just because it's poor season, and maybe because we fix a lot of roads. I have no respect for traffic, it's flowing. Somebody blew by my house last night at a, I can always tell how fast they're getting on. I'm talking about by the air, it had to have been upwards of 60 miles per hour. I will say this much because I did start back in May in coming over with witness stuff. Thank you guys. The roads are 100% better than when they started. I'm very impressed enough on how that was done. We're very well handled. I'm not trying to teach you boring, but it's true. I mean, yeah, it's very well done. I think your cross, they say it's fine. They're just getting there. We may be tested out over the next week. I am making traffic stops. I am writing tickets, I'm writing a whole lot of tickets. So, that's at 207 traffic stops. We're not at 207 traffic stops. I think I wrote 63 tickets in 35. I hope I shouldn't pull along, but if you ever wanted to know those stats, let me know and I can give you. I think they'd like to see that in their package. Notice kind of a shortened view of, you know, we wrote next month tickets or whatever for next month. For next month? Next package, I mean. Yeah. So then it does the... I know I'm always interested in seeing, you know, how many people you pulled over versus how many came over with the ticket. Oh, sure. And also, usually, I used to like to see, maybe in the cases of the ones I gave you a ticket to, you know, what was the speed enforcement of those tickets? Because, you know, we used to look and say, oh geez, you know, 62 and a 25, you know. There's other... There's lots of those. Just be careful of that, because there's other circumstances of reasons like some of them may not be taken and why some of them will be taken or not. Oh, yeah. I have one of the unwritten things that cops do, they build sources of information and you're certain, I'm not saying I'm doing it, but in the future, if I'm investigating something, I want to try to get information on something, it's better to have a copy of that person in particular, right? Or I guess I'll rephrase my comment to, I think like a total sheet to say over the last, because we do it every two weeks, right? Over the last two weeks, I had, whatever, 15, I stopped 15, he wanted you to give people a ticket, right? And I don't need to know who they were. No, no, I don't know who they were. But then the other thing is that... I can't tell you who they were. Yeah, they don't want to know. But before, Mark had a, like when he did pull somebody over, regardless of who gave him the ticket or not, he used to say like, you know, 42 and a 25. And then at least you kind of knew like what the speeds were going on and down, you know. That's interesting, Oscar, that kind of gives him an idea of what they happened to him, so to speak. I didn't really need to know if he had given the ticket or who they were. Like, completely unrelated to that stuff, but just... And I see on there, there's no fine rub or rub right now. It takes a while for the state to kind of process there. You should come a month behind for the time we get it, so. I wrote 105 total records. There's 207 for the whole agency. Total records that don't have anything associated with it. That's the total pre-ajudicated value of whatever it is so far. That's the number I can show you guys if you want to see it. That's the number of tickets I wrote, 63. That's the number of mornings I wrote, 31. That's the average age of the person that I've been stopping since I've started here. And I can actually scroll down and tell you the racial data collection and statistics as well. I've stopped 67 males, 33 females, no unknowns. I've stopped two Asians, 1.93 blacks. And I primarily target white people. So, new, right? Here's what I get. I mean, that's what, if you want something like that. So I think that on my end of things, I like this information at the top where it basically says total traffic stops. Was this, this is how many tickets or this is how many mornings? Because, believe it or not, we get so, you know, they say, yeah, you know. You usually get the old, you know, like when I bring your dog back in, you know, those clocks, but at least I can say, hey, I've been looking at it. It looks like Oscar's been giving more warning. So, you know, at least, yeah, because usually you get some kinds of that. I guess it's something fired back at. I'm not sure if it's going to help me out. Are you getting me on the phone? Yeah. I have to. Thank you. Oh, you can do it. Make a hold of your hand. Now, I'm going to go like this. Hold on. Yeah, here you go. I need on. That is true. So, have a good night. So other than that, I think, you know, yeah, thank you. So what I've done is I'm able to pull up most of my operational statistical data at a full request, and I can poorly give you reports. Yeah, she got one of those data. Honestly, and I'm sorry, you're going to have to see it. I can see it. I don't know. I think it's on half the board. On the record, on average, the people that are getting stopped in this town, 95% of the time are doing 15 miles an hour over close as people to get a ticket. Right. The only times those are that have reduced the area in front of the elementary school, I lower it down there. The congestion area on Main Street, and obviously the bridge construction zone. Other than that, when I go to court to bring these people to adjudication, I like to be able to tell the judge and go, Your Honor, they're doing 15 over a speed limit. And I do give a lot of breaks. There's, without a doubt, I give a lot of breaks. And in some cases, you guys might go, why are you giving breaks? Well, I give town and Bethel residents breaks, but I'm able to, I'm able to know when I've given them breaks, the document that I've given them breaks. Well, sure, as soon as you get the money, I don't want anybody to fool you. If you've been issued a warning by a trooper by the time when they bring up, you know, look you up the second time. They already know how many warnings you've been given, so they track all that stuff. And so it makes this, whatever general information that you can give the board on a bi-weekly type endeavor, it just gives us information to answer questions when we receive them. You know, we're your frontline defense, and you know, yes, because, you know, they don't have you hurt anything. Is there anything that you've heard that I could be doing different outside of giving more breaks to some people? I don't think it's positive. Do we have to keep the camera on? Yeah. Yeah. I would just say overall, you know, and I would say overall, there's always gonna be pushback. I think there are those in town that see the added resource that you bring. And I'll just throw an example out there that might be, like, Champlain terms, you know, they have some customers sometimes that are the ones that they don't want hanging out up front. And in the past, they tried to make those customers leave and have reached out to law enforcement in the past and nothing has happened. And they know now that, you know, they pick up the phone and you show up and you deal with the issue and it goes away. So there's those positives. So then I think there are some people that, now that you have a little larger footprint because of the qualifications that you bring, that they're not used to seeing some of those offenses being taken by you. So when they hear that information, well, what's he doing with that? You know, he doesn't need to be doing that, but they maybe not fully understand that, you know, in the past we had to hand those off now. Yeah. You know, now we have to see those through. So I think there's some of those adjustments going on. I mean, and then there was always going to be those handful, you know, we had that one just recently. It's going to be those handful of ones that there's going to be an issue, even though there's really not an issue. So I don't know, is anybody else heard of anything? Paul's sitting here. Paul, Paul's in, Paul's in the meditation. He's like, don't say, don't say things. No, I'm fine. I'll talk to him. I was gonna say, you know, I don't know the form though, I don't know the form. So I don't see any, you know. I would just say the more feedback, general feedback you can give us, or keep us in the loop on the better resource we can be to help get that information out into the public when we get those questions. Other than that, I think things are going well, and you know, it was nice to hear my daughter talking about that you were at school. You know, I was sort of building something about talking points that we had been on earlier. Yeah, we get a lot of positive feedback about it. Yeah. There's always a negative. Oh yeah, in some cases, it's fair to say I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't get some complaints. It's the same as your left-ward memory. You just got to hear all that sort of stuff. You guys take a look at that. If you don't care, it's fire on us. It's okay. It's okay. Yeah. It's okay. It's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, all right, here we go. The only other thing was, if you haven't yet given me your stuff about the jump ordinance, then remember to let me know what kind of an easy tree to kind of compile. I think I have had three people giving their stuff to a missing. So that way, when she comes back, speaking of that. That's the week or next week that she's going to give, you know, we'll talk about she's going to put all of them on the topic. Yes, sir? We have intercepted some illegal earnings, we have a lot of those. Yeah, turn it over to the fire chief or the general fire chief. He'll do his investigation to see if he can issue miscellaneous kits and all that. I was in the issue, okay. Yeah, just talk to Dave. Don't take care of that. You go and ask him two thousand how he wants to handle it. The funny thing is, is the fire ward near is not generally the person that you could call. It could be an firefighter, but usually Dave's pretty good at that. He can reach out and not be in the home. So just talk to Dave and Dave and we'll see how he wants to be able to move forward. We'll mix down my smoke and labor and plastic things for the holiday. You can? Yeah. We'll mix down that every other day. Yeah, then you should call him because they can. He can actually go out, a loop or not. He can actually sample what's there and send it away and get it out and do it and everything. Yeah. You'd be surprised how far his fire chief has. It always amazed me when I read him in statute. They actually care a good stick. But certainly, I'll reach out to Dave anyway. Okay, so? I'll do anyways and chat with him. All right. I want to enforce 2204 then. Yeah. Just, well, talk to him about what he wants to do. Might be nice for him to work in unison on that. All right. Okay. Okay. All right. Anything else to come before the board this evening? A drink. A drink? A drink? Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. David. Bye. Thank you.