 We're here at ITU Telecom World 2015 in Budapest in Hungary, and I'm very pleased to be joined by Ngeni Gituko, who is the Chairman of the Communications Authority of Kenya. Mr Gituko, thank you very much for being with us today. Now I'd like to start off by talking about the theme of ITU Telecom World 2015 is accelerating innovation for social impact. How do you see ICT innovation directly impacting on socio-economic development in Kenya? Thank you very much. Because basically ICT now in Kenya has changed the way we do things. It's changed so much that even on the social front, for example, the use of social media, Facebook, Twitter, and WhatsApp, and all the other things, they are being used by young people to communicate, to criticize the government where necessary. So it's opening up democratic space. On the commercial side, in terms of business, the mobile money transfer has also changed a lot of things that happen in Kenya. I'll tell you for sure that today, a lot of people do not leave their houses. They operate from their houses. If you have a small business somewhere and you have construction sites and so on, you said money through and through, so you don't have to leave here. So it has really a big effect on the socio-economic side. And what measures can government and industry take to encourage entrepreneurship and foster the growth of SMEs in the ICT sector? And in particular, what is the government doing? Can you do this? Yes, well, I would say both the government of Kenya and the regulator where I come in. Because basically it's the regulator that provides the environment for doing business. The neighboring environment is where the facilities are there. And together with the government, as you know, the government now at the moment is very much involved in taking services to the people. We have what we are calling Houduma Centers, where if you go to get your ID, you want to register a company or a business name, whatever you want to do now, it's very easy because you don't have to go to the government offices, which is miles away. You get them right next to your village, your small townships and so on. So those are ways of encouraging innovations and encouraging SMEs to operate because unless you of course register a business name, you can't start a business. The government also benefits in that they are now able to know who is doing which business. So in terms of revenue, in terms of taxes, you are able to pay taxes. They are paying taxes online as well. So we provide regulatory support. We manage competition also to make sure that everything is properly done. But more importantly, the government is also now going out to encourage these small entrepreneurs. So really very much forming an environment of democracy and of accountability as well. Exactly. And how is ITU Telecom World helping you to showcase and support SMEs? It's doing a lot. At the moment, if you come to our stand, there's a pavilion here, you'll find we have these people, young people who've come with very many ideas. They are showcasing. For example, there is somebody there who is doing, you know, Ada M. Shamba, where they are showing how you can grow rice and increase your yield online. I mean, all you do is talk to those rural people who grow rice and help them to do better, more yields. But give them ideas and tips of what they are supposed to do. You've got others who are dealing with maternal health care. From the time a rural woman is pregnant to the time she gives birth, she still do what to do, what to take at what point. And eventually, after giving birth, they are taken care of online. It's the advice given by these young people using ICT. And it's very good. We also got others calling themselves Darasa or something like that to do with education. They communicate with their peers, with their equals about various issues to do with education and training and so on. And I was very excited. Yesterday, as I was working around, I found that because Amarillo has to develop, I found if I can get somebody to rent my flat, I can go to some of those young guys and get all my details. And from there, you find that I will be able to get a tenant for my house. And this was not there before. This is online. It's come in ICT and it's a great achievement. Evidently, your showcasing is a very interesting and innovative projects and startup companies and SMEs on the very impressive and beautiful Kenya Pavilion here. I wanted to ask you, what's the benefit of Kenya at this event? There are very many benefits. For example, basically benchmarking. We are learning what we don't know. We are also telling them what they don't know. A lot of people ask us about M-Pesa, the mobile money transfer system. And they know Kenya was among the first countries to come up with this and it's become very... So there are very many things we discussed. We've also visited other stands and we've learned some things that we didn't know. So I think it's a good idea. When I went to the last conference, the other ITU world in Bangkok, I found when we were talking about 2G, 3G, there were some people from Korea and others who were saying they are looking at 5G. So there's a lot of... We learn a lot and we help each other. So it's very good to be here to learn more about the things that other people are doing. And finally, is there a message that you would like to convey to the participants here at ITU Telecom World and also to our viewers online? Yes, I think the most important thing is that we must work, all of us, very, very hard to make sure that everybody is connected. Obviously, the GDP growth is a sort of ICT. It's there for all to see. So the more we connect everybody else online, the more we get our networks everywhere in the remote areas and all that. It is good for the industry. So I would urge other participants, when they go back to work very hard, which whether it's through Universal Service FAD or whichever means that make sure that everybody is highly connected. Mr. Kituku, thank you very much for keeping with us today. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much.