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Just remember to use the code MAISPECIAL for that discount. All right, enjoy this podcast. That's okay. So getting in, getting into the Montessori school is really hard right now. Listen to this stuff, dude. All right. Okay. Listening. At two years old, not only the Montessori school and then also airlines, the mass required at two, I thought it was four. That's insane. Two years old. I can't even get Max to keep his fucking socks on. How am I going to get him to keep a mask on? Use glue. Impossible. No, there's no- Use gorilla glue. No, this is where people, you've seen clips of people like having to leave the airplane because of their young toddler. I didn't know it was two. It's crazy. I thought it was a little ridiculous for four, but two has come- Okay. Here's how silly that is. This is how stupid that is, okay? Have you ever been around a bunch of two-year-olds? Hold on a second. Hold on a second. How many teachers and how many students? Like how many students per teacher, right? Montessori is probably less, right? So ten, let's say there's tens. Nine to one. Okay. Nine. You are the teacher. Nine two-year-olds, okay? You're going to have more mass to prevent them from spreading their germs. Have you ever seen two-year-olds? Yeah. I have. We're going to touch each other's faces. Yeah. I mean, what the hell's going on here? You can't control that. What are you going to do? I mean, what really sucks is that the way this all came up, well, first we were talking about the Montessori schools. It's just one of those feel-good policies that doesn't make any sense. But the one where this really came up that I got pissed about was, because it started with that conversation Katrina and I were talking about, and then we were talking about potentially going to Cabo this summer or something, and we've also talked about maybe coming out with you guys to Hawaii, and Max in July turns two. And Katrina's like, well, you know, he's going to have to wear a mask when we go on the plane. I'm like, there's no way. And my son is like, super well-behaved. There's no way he keeps a mask on his face. Maybe you put him in a bubble tent. You know what I mean? That's it. There he can't understand it. The little bubble dome? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've seen those little boys. Just make sure you poke some holes in it. Yeah, that's what I've learned. That's a very important point. It is. If you don't do that, you'll die. Speaking of that, Katrina got so mad at me. I put a paper bag over Max's head like, here we go. Oh my God, dude, mama bear came out. What are you doing? I'm like, relax. I'm playing with him. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're just messing around because like, we were throwing ninja stars at each other. And he's just, he's learning how to dodge. What are you going to do? What are you going to do when he does it with a plastic bag over his face? I'm like, oh, I was like, relax. We're not doing that. Yeah, I'm like, she makes a good point, though. It is that's dangerous. Yeah, it's not my best dad move. Yeah, you should cut holes so he has eyes and all that. He can still kind of breathe. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's still kind of breathing. That's the evolved version. Yeah, I lost that argument, let's just say. Not winning that way. Well, that's good. You know, they help balance this out. Dude, we have ideas too. Listen, moms and dads, okay? We both have our thing that we're valuable for. Dads aren't necessarily the safest. What are you? So are you, we promote risk. You're still so early. I feel like it's starting to get to this point now where the more and more of the how Katrina and I are different with raising a child is starting to come out, right? And all good stuff, right? But it's things that you just don't think to talk about. Are you, have you and Jessica, have you got into something? Not get into like a fight, because I know you guys wouldn't fight over it. But I mean, like we were like, oh, I never thought that she would be so strongly this way or not really see my point here. I'm trying to think right now. She's definitely far more sensitive to him crying. Like if he cries, oh, it really makes, like really triggers her. That was a big one for him. For me, if he cries, I'm like, okay. Yeah, here we go. Oh, he doesn't want to get, he wants to get his way. Let him cry. What's going to happen? But for her, it really, it's a really, it really affects her. So that's one big difference, but I can't think of any. Yeah, it's early right now. They start to come out more, I think, as they get a little bit older, because I had the same thing too. Once they get their little personality and everything that you have to figure out. He's also now, like, now he's starting to have a preference for her or me depending on the situation. Like I'm a fun guy. Like, if he's fed and he's not tired and he sees me, he's like, yeah, let's play. It's going to be a good time. He laughs and smiles and it's all good times. But when he's tired or, you know, hungry, he don't care. He's like, who is this guy? Let go of me. Where's mom? Yeah, I'm here. I want mom. At the other night, I went up to, because she put him down, and then he didn't go down. So he's kind of fussing and then he starts crying. So it's like, okay, we got to restart, right? That's what you got to do. You got to go in and restart. So I'm like, let me go try, right? So I go in there and I pat him like this on his back, and he's like pushes up. And you can tell he's looking up and he's like trying to figure out, is this mom or dad, right? So then I'm like, it's okay, but here's my voice. So then I pick him up. Not who I wanted. Yeah. So then I pick him up to try and like, see them or whatever. No way, dude. He's twisting. He's like, where's mom? I need to find mom. Yeah. As soon as she walks in the room and he hears her voice, just sits his head on her shoulder. I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah. Dad's not the guy that comforts me. Yeah. He's not the one that comforts me. Oh, the thing that we're dealing with right now, so this thing that's becoming consistent, and I haven't decided how much I like it or not. So I have the Instagram stories today, so I don't know if you guys saw so far in my day. Oh, yeah. And it's the cutest thing in the world. Like every morning, pretty much now, before I leave, Max is sleeping in the bed with Katrina, and they're all, he's normally like hand on her face, and they're all cuddled up. It's adorable. And when you see that, you might think that, oh, my God, did they let the kids sleep in the bed? No, absolutely not. That doesn't happen. He sleeps incredibly well, so he goes down at 7.30. He sleeps all the way till the earliest he'll wake up is 5, normally 6 or 6.30. But when he wakes up at 5 or 5.30 or anything before 6.30, she will bring him into the bed. She'll give him a little bit of milk, and she'll bring him back in the bed, and they'll fall asleep together. But I have to get out of the bed. So even if I don't need to get out. Why do you have to get out of bed? Because like you, he, dad, is playtime. Oh, so he won't even sleep. He won't sleep. And I also shot myself in the foot by teaching, like so, I don't know, maybe six months ago, you know, I started to, like we'd be reading his books like before bed, like we always do, and I pretend like I'm sleeping. Like when it's getting closer to be done with the books, I'll be like, oh, it's time to go to sleep, and I pretend like I'm snoring. And I start doing that. And so he would, you know, try and wake me up, and it was just- So it's a game. So it's a game, right? When he comes in at 5 o'clock in the morning, and I'm really snoring, he's laughing. He comes over and he's laughing and hitting me on the head, because he thinks I'm playing with him. Yeah. So I have to get up, and I have to go to the other room, so they can actually continue to sleep. Yeah, I'm doing this thing where my son laughs because I'll pretend to bite his leg or his hand, and then I'm like, wait a minute, this kid's going to get teeth soon. This might not be a good game to play. Yeah, he's going to reciprocate. It's fun. Oh, little shit. Oh yeah, no, that's one of those things. It's always before bed. That was something I had to learn the hard way, too. I was hyping them up a lot. We would wrestle before bed, because they just have all this energy just spontaneously right before they have to go to sleep, and so I'm trying to corral it, but then I'm giving into it because it's fun, or I'm reading a story, and then I'm pretending to be all these characters and they're chiming in and all this stuff, and then it's like, I can't do this every night because they're never going to go to bed. Then they keep coming back upstairs. I'm like, I know what you're doing. You're stalling. Stop coming upstairs, and I had to lay down the law with that. Oh yeah, no, they're smart with that kind of stuff because when they get a little older, it's like, I'm thirsty or, you know, hey. I'm just coming off my water. Yeah, right, right. So I'm just like, get your water. But it starts early. My baby's son's seven months old, right? If he's anywhere and he wants you to get him and he makes eye contact with you, he knows to make a cute, happy face. So he'll be like, whatever. Then he'll make eye contact with you and he's like, he like makes this big smile. And I'm like, is he like trying to entice me? Is it closer? Yeah, to come get him. Is it closer? I know, I was like, it's good. It's pretty good. Can't wait till he starts talking. Apparently, I didn't get the memo here. What? Cobra Kai, Miyagado over here. Dude, what's going on? Come on, bro. Did you guys, is it? Cobra Kai, what the fuck? Was there like a Karate Kid marathon? Listen, here's a bit of a split. There's a rift over here's the deal. Okay. I know, there's the good guys. I see that. With good karate. Oh, good guys. There's the bad guys. Cobra Kai. Suspect. I feel like we should fight this out right now. Yeah. Don't follow in the. I'll get up right now. All the actual rules, right? Yeah, Johnny was misunderstood. I changed my. That's why I love so much about the Cobra Kai show. He was a dick, bro. Like, dude, look at his background. And the thing is, like, he was doing his best. You know, and he just so I did. In the last fight, it's just like, okay. You know, he's doing his thing. He's kicking his ass. And then there's an illegal move that he lost. Let me, let's see. Let's talk about the boost. You guys both actually. An illegal move. It's actually very fitting that you guys are representing like this because I do feel like you are like Daniel Sun for sure. That's bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about this for good. I told you guys, I was a little bit borderline bully, but like, you know, made my way out of it. So I wasn't like. Recovering the dick. Yeah, no. Danny LaRusso came from, where'd he come from? New Jersey. Yeah. And he learned karate. He's Italian, so obviously you love him. You know, I mean, maybe. He came to California in this dickhead bully. It starts messing with me. Daniel LaRusso. Do you cut me? You steal the guy's girlfriend. He studied karate for like six months. He didn't even have to change grades. Six months. Freaking Johnny been karate his whole life. And who wins the fight? I do believe that. So I mean, that's pure. They did. So I'm not like, obviously I'm not like a crazy fan. Like you guys are about it. But I do, I did enjoy all of them. And I do like the new one because they do such a good job actually of telling his story, right? Yeah. Making him seem like not such. Oh, I get it. That's why he was bullied. And oh man, didn't realize that he felt like he stole his girlfriend. That was very smart. Yeah, they did it. It was really, it was very well done. Very, very well done. They did that. His dad was a total jerk. You know, like it just would just punk him all the time. Well, at least he had a dad. Danny was there. It's just a single mom. Oh, speaking of you guys being jerks. So I brought up, I know, I know I rolled that company on the bus the other day on email. So I get another, I get another email. Okay. So Cassie. Same company? No, no, no, no. This is different. So Cassie sends me a message and she forwards this email and she says, what do you want? How do you want me to respond? So Doug, do you have this email? Please tell me you have the email that Cassie has. So we get, it's in response to woke fitness. Oh, our last episode. Which by the way, I, you know, I kind of knew that we might ruffle some feathers. But I thought when I went back and watched it, because I was, I was a little concerned. I was, it's surprising to me because if you listen to how we talk and communicate, we've been helping people and we have incredible empathy for the whole situation. For sure. So it's weird to me that it would even. No, Courtney, you love this. She actually texted me or I just listened to it and was like, wow, that was a really well done, you know, episode. Yeah, I thought, I thought we had a good balance in it. I didn't think that, so I was a little surprised by this. So Doug, can you pull it up and read it for the audience here? Yeah. Oh, just kidding. I turned off here. Okay, turn it off. This topic turned me off. No, I'm going to read from the most important parts. I listened to your latest episode, woke fitness, and while I wasn't intending to do cardio today, my heart spiked so much during that podcast from Rage that I might as well have run a mile. For a podcast that has always favored nuance and deep understanding of topics, I was totally unimpressed with your lack of discussion on the following. You are attracted to what you're attracted to. Here's food for thought. You're attracted to what's sold to you and what's sold to us is white skinny athletic cultural norms. It's easy to dismiss your preference, which as you stated feels so personal, it's none of anyone's business, but really your preference isn't your preference at all. But it's what's marketed to you through all mainstream outlets. Calling out preference as fat phobia is not evolutionarily based but monetarily based. Our preferences are inherently fat phobic because that's the message that's marketed. Furthermore, those in the woke space aren't absolving themselves or of their autonomy by not pointing the blame on them but are reclaiming obesity as a systemic issue. There are so many other points that I could discuss, but now that my heart rate has recovered, I'm going to eat a post-workout meal. As a healthcare worker, I've listened to your podcast regularly since the pandemic, and it had become the beloved routine of mine to get my steps in and tune in. Not anymore. Y'all are on the wrong side of history. All I ask is that you keep this podcast up on the app years from now so that the proof remains public. Oh, it's so sad that we lost it. How about that one, huh? History's against us. All right, so here's the deal. There's a little bit of truth. That only, yeah, that only, but actually that only is true for Justin. That's Justin's type. Yeah, yeah. The rest of us are, you know. No, no, okay. There's a little bit of truth in what they're saying, in the sense that media does influence what we tend to preference, but there's also a very strong, there's very strong evolutionary roots. The others as well studied. So I hate this whole like the science, no, that's bullshit, but the science is actually quite clear. They've done studies on, like for example, they'll say, you know, what kind of shape are men attracted to? And they'll do this like all over the world. And what they do find is that there is a difference in weight where in some countries, what they find preferable are 30 to 40 pounds heavier than what they might find in another country. But it's the ratio of waist to, yes. There's a hip to waist ratio that is the same in all of these. And that hip to waist ratio is connected to health, longevity, successful childbirth. You know what you don't find? Almost anywhere in any country is a general preference for severe obesity. There are places where it's borderline and I forgot where exactly, but there's a region in Africa. Yeah, where they defeat everybody a lot of milk to get the weight up. I remember seeing that as like an attractive quality, like they were looking for women that were a little bit bigger. Yes, but there was, and it's borderline, and one of these areas is because there was such a huge epidemic of HIV and AIDS. So being heavy looked healthy because you are not wasting away to this disease, right? But by and large, there is no evolutionary preference for severe, actually there's no evolutionary preference for anything that is generally unhealthy. So this could be really bad skin. This could be teeth that are falling out. This could be anything that displays poor health, generally speak, and I say general because humans are complex. So there's definitely nuances and fetishes and all that stuff, but generally speaking, anything that is a display of poor health is considered unattractive. So this is terrible. It's not fat phobia. They label it that because then the next step is to say you are a bigot or discriminatory. Why aren't you sleeping with these super obese people? Why are you pursuing obese people as like your preference? Yes, it's terrible. And then the thing is the whole marketing aspect of that, like that's where I'm immediately, I'm like, okay, so you're telling me that none of us can think for ourselves. We can't have our own like preferences. Like now like you're telling me a marketing company is going to influence me that much to where it's going to be like, oh, well, this is what I'm supposed to be attracted to in life. I mean, we've addressed. Tell me what else to do. In her defense, we have addressed that too though. I mean, we talked about this when we talked about magazines. I mean, much of the 80s and 90s and even probably even early 2000, well, maybe not so 2000, but definitely in the 80s and 90s and maybe even before, this skinny cocaine just totally anorexic looking model was what we were promoted as health or what people should be attracted to. And but I don't, I can't get behind that. We've been sold that. So that's what everybody wants. Like that's such an over. Yeah, exactly. If that was the case, then that would be like everybody right now. Also, you gotta remember this, the market is driven by the consumer. If you stop buying that shit, they will stop promoting it. They have no way of making money off of what they're promoting if people don't buy it. So at the end of the, and this is the problem, nobody wants that responsibility. And by the way, the way marketing companies come up with stuff like that is they go survey people first and then they go after it. Yeah, or they'll put the other way around. Yeah, I mean, here you are in this company, this big company corporation. You're like, hey, I'd like to use this model to market our new product. And like, okay. And then two months later, like it's, we're losing sales. That's not working. Is the company like, keep pushing it. We need to teach people to like this model. That's a terrible approach. I mean, you've kind of seen that a little bit in programming for like TV shows and movies. And it's just not doing well, you know? Like it's just, you can't, as much as you want to have people kind of come into your ideas and your ideologies, like if it's not, if people aren't buying it, it's not working. And also this whole, like she had, of course, this person had to throw in not just skinny, but also white, right? Yeah, where did that come in? Okay, well, first of all, that it's partially true, but mainly because for a long time, right? The number one, first of all, America is the largest consumer base in the world, right? Everybody knows if you want to build a company and make it extremely successful and billions of dollars like, you do it in America. We consume the most. We have the most money to consume, right? And for a long time, a majority of the consumers in America were white, right? They were European centric. So you saw that. But America's landscape is changing quite a bit. And what's changing along with that is the marketing. It's not because companies are trying to be virtuous. It's because it's starting to work to show somebody that is Hispanic or that is black or that is, you know, not white because the consumer base is starting to change, right? That's why it is the way it is. Now, why does it show up in the rest of the world? Because again, America is the main consumer. If you look at the amount that consumers in America spend on products, other countries pale in comparison. That's why it is the way it is. But as the consumer base changes its habits, so will the marketing. But yeah, this labeling it fatphobic, like what? I can't believe people are so dumb. I can't believe this hurts my head. You know, I'm glad we did the episode now. I was like, I was kind of like, really? I mean, this is kind of obvious to me, but obviously not. Yeah, okay. So if I'm an asshole and you're not attracted to me, does that make you asshole phobic? Yes, exactly. You're a jerk. You're just a phobic. You just have a phobia against jerks. Yeah. You know what I mean? You should like me. You have a phobia against guys with vans. Whatever. Come on in. You know, come in my van. You have a phobia against guys that live in their vans. Yeah. With no windows. Like me. Yeah. And I got duct tape in the back. It's just, it's ridiculous, but it's part of that whole strange, like woke fitness movement that is starting to grow. It's always default to the systemic. Everything is systemic now. There's no personal responsibility. Heaven forbid, like, you just own up that maybe I like that or they don't like that. And how always, we have to blame a system on it. Yeah. Well, it's very, I'm sorry, but it's very parallel to cults. Like, this is the first thing they do. Like, everybody has to have the same ideas. Everybody has to subscribe to this type of language. Everybody has to do all these things the same. Where's the diversity? Diversity is where it's at. That's the beautiful part. Yeah. We're a melting pot of a million different types of people. And that's beautiful. Yeah. Why did we get away from that? Yeah. And again, you're just, okay, you're attracted to what you're attracted to, whatever. And I hate this, generally speaking, this isn't, of course, on an individual basis. This is, it could be very different, but that if you're healthy, you're probably going to be more attractive. And by the way, when I say healthy, I don't just mean physical, that's part of health. I also mean mental health and spiritual health, right? So somebody could be physically very attractive, but if they're mentally not healthy, they're also probably not going to be attractive to a lot of people. It's just the way it is. On other news of dumb people, did you guys see Joey Swoll giving out cryptocurrency advice? Oh, my boy. Oh, no. I wasted, I don't know if it was even 30 seconds of my life watching that, but I know I had to tag you guys. Is that the beginning of the end for crypto? I just... It was the best gift you've given me in a while, I'll be honest. That was amazing to sit through. So great. The way he talks about it, obviously he doesn't know. He's just like, I'm totally into crypto. This is, yeah, everybody knows I'm into crypto. It reminds me so in culture, you have certain terms like getting jiggy with it. That was a cool thing, because Will Smith said it once or whatever, and then your grandma said it next. Joey Swoll just did that to crypto. The shark has been jumped? Yeah, 100%. I mean, the thing that I've now talked to several very brilliant minds that... I think one of the best things that I've heard from them say is that, I mean, I don't understand it. Are you talking about economists? Yeah, yeah, brilliant minds in that field are like, it's confusing, and it doesn't... I can't quite piece it all together or make sense of how it's all good. Elon Musk couldn't figure it out. Yes. But Joey Swoll has it down. By the way, I just read an article. You know how the criticism that he said was that it was the carbon footprint of mining for Bitcoin? Because of the energy, right? The energy to mine for Bitcoin. Yeah, you said you debunked that, no? An article actually debunked it. They went and compared gold and dollars and the whole process, right? The process of mining the gold and transporting it and all that stuff, and then the process of what it takes to make money and print money, and they actually compared the carbon footprint and the energy that was required to make them, and Bitcoin actually uses the least. It's actually less bad for the environment than those other ones. And I knew it. When I heard that, it reminds me a lot of how, oftentimes, we have these environmental policies that sound and feel good, but when you actually break it down, it's not so simple. Like, I remember the plastic bag ban that they had in California a while ago, and it was all based on the fact that plastic bags don't decompose or whatever, and so it's worse for the environment. And then people actually went... Scientists actually went and studied the amount of water that is needed to make paper bags, the amount of materials, transporting them. They take up more space. They're heavier. They actually did all the actual math and figuring. They said, actually, it's not that big. It's not a different. These are all the inconvenient details. It's much easier to think. Generally, this will be better, but that's why it's so important to follow that train of thought and see it all the way through. Well, I still stand behind that. I don't think it's going away. I know I came out the hardest, probably, saying that I believe it's here to stay. Yeah, it's here to stay just for the black market reason alone. That's it. Yeah. I mean, carry it. And I don't know that for sure, if it will or will not, but even the money that I put into that, I looked the same way when I put a bet on the Lakers to lose. It's the same. It's a... I'm gambling. Yeah, it's a gamble. It's a gamble. I'm gonna throw a little bit of money at it. Let's see what happens. I do as much research to figure out as much as I can and think, oh, I think these are decent bets, but that's it. I'm walking away from it. It's like, if it turns out to be something, then great. If not, I'm not going to... People got in early and they made a lot of money. Well, good for them. Here's the truth, right? If the shit really hits the fan, right? If the shit hits the fan, you're going to want something you can use in a black market because black markets change all the time. Now, right now, it's drugs and guns and other shit, but who knows if the shit hits the fan, maybe the black market is something like milk or bread or, you know, car or, you know, who knows, right? What's the odds of the shit hitting the fan? In this country, too? Yeah, but very, very small, right? But if it does hit the fan and everything goes crazy and you're like, oh my gosh... And by the way though, if a scenario like that were to happen, I don't think we're the first country to show that as an example, right? So if you're like, shit hits the fan, gets called crazy... Oh, it's happened in the past in the places. Right, that's what I'm saying. Do you know in Venezuela, Bitcoin, like people like saving their lives with Bitcoin because their currency is completely destroyed in other countries that have gone tyrannical, you know, there were black markets for clothes, there were black markets for education, their books that you couldn't buy because they were banned. So how are you going to buy these books? Well, you got to use the black market. So, you know, Bitcoin is, you know, it's good for that, I would say. But as far as the value, I don't know... It's so volatile. But still, look, here's the deal. It crashed. Everybody's like, it crashed. It's still so much higher than it was a couple of years ago. Like, what is this sitting at now, 30 something thousand? Where was it a couple of years ago? So even with its crash, holy cow, it's still, you know, way more valuable than it was before. Yeah, weren't you going to bring up the Logan Paul? Oh, yeah. So, did you see that he signed with Showtime? Yeah. So, Brandon Schaub was talking about this. So he... Okay, by the way, which is, okay, what's a company called Thrilla? Trilla or some shit, whatever that name is. Remember, I was bringing it up like how trashy it was. Like, oh my God, this company is, I cannot believe. But I mean, there's so much hype around the fights. It makes money. Well, especially with like Logan Paul and stuff like that. There'd be, and Jake Paul being involved in it or whatever. So they have so much pool with their network. So I'm guessing that they probably carried a lot of the success that that company was having. Now they signed with Showtime. Dunzo, dude. So watch the fall of that company. It's only going to be a matter of time. So what's Showtime going to do with them? Real Boxer. They will set, they won't set no bullshit fights. His next fight, his fights coming up will be real fighters. Heavyweight YouTube contender. That was like his title. I'm like, okay, so Logan Paul, just focusing on him, because we've seen Jake Paul actually had a fight and he won, right? Logan Paul, he didn't win. Like, where's his track record? Oh, did you bring up Logan or Jake? I'm sorry. I brought up Logan. Oh, I was talking about, I was talking about Jake. Oh, so Jake's the one that got signed. So the little, yeah, the little brother who just fought on the thriller, what the fucking name is it? Triller. Triller, whatever, I don't know the name of it. Is it he fighting Floyd or is that the other guy? No, it's Logan is fighting Floyd. Oh my God. Yeah, that one just blows my mind. I was, I was trying to scratch. Now, let me ask you guys this. My head. Do you think Floyd is going to go in there to try to hurt him? Or do you think Floyd's going to go in there to make a show? No, he doesn't even fight that way. Floyd does not fight that way. Hold on a second. I would love it if he did. Okay, hold on a second. Yes, he doesn't fight that way, but he's one of the best Boxers of all time. Yeah, but he also- Make no mistake, if you wanted to- And he did it early in his career. He's also a very, very intelligent fighter and he, everybody has a fighter's chance, what is it called, punch, or fighter's punch chance. What the fuck? A Boxer's Chance or- No, no, no. Puncher's Chance. Yeah, thank you. Puncher's Chance. Jesus today, I can't put these together here. That's a bit too big. Some analogy here. Yeah, you know what I mean though, right? So he knows that and he's a big boy. So he's not going to mess around. He's not going to take risk. He's, he's about his money. Yeah, but you got to understand something. There's a, but when you're talking about a world-class boxer versus a good boxer. Yeah, but- It's like light years. Okay. Floyd, although he's a technical boxer, he dances or whatever, and he's not known as a hard puncher in comparison to other- Yes. He will knock someone's face off. Yes, you're right, but there's a big difference between 150 pounds and 210 pounds. Hmm. Okay. So you can be world-class or not. I mean, here's the- I don't know, man. Floyd Mayweather would whoop my ass, but I guarantee I would put a lick on him if we, if I got a shot on him. Well- Because I'm twice his size. He's so smart. Just like somebody else would. He's just going to put him through the ringer until he gets him tired. That's what he'll do. And then he'll, he'll, maybe he'll go- He's one of the most, he's one of the most elusive boxers of all time. How do you even touch him? Have you guys ever been around a world-class small boxer, hit a bag or anything like that? Oh yeah. It's another, it's another level of humor. Okay, so I've never been- I've never been a pads for a Mexican box. Do this guy hit so hard. It's, and there's small, he's 150 pounds, but my 150 pound guy, I guarantee you, he hits three times as hard as anyone in this room. Agree, agree, agree. But I've, so I've never been around a world-class, but I've, I've boxed with an amateur boxer who's so obviously way better than I am. But the weight and the size was such a difference that I actually could go a couple rounds with the guy because I could just sit there with, I mean, at no skill- Yeah, the leech, yeah. Yeah. I mean, just I, I'm leaning back. I'm keeping the, like he would have to lunge at me to get in. So it actually looked like I hung him there from- Now, by the third round, I can't breathe and I'm slobbering all over myself and then he's hitting me in the gut and then it's game over, right? Yeah, he's gonna wait till you're sloppy. Yes. So, but you're, and you're not, Logan Paul fights. Like I'm not a fighter, right? So Logan Paul is an actual fighter, so he's got the puncher's chance. This is crazy. He's not gonna go- He's athletic, he's skill, but like, I mean, he hasn't proven anything yet. I hate to say it, Adam, but you called this and it's, it's happening. I mean, they're, they're signing with showtime and- It's just money. It's all money, you know what I'm saying? Of course. Yeah. Of course it is. That's everything. I want to know more specifics, though, because you see Conor McGregor called out Floyd May, whether if we're taking the fight, claiming that these numbers are inflated, that they're saying- What numbers are inflated? The numbers that Jake and Logan are saying last fights. Yeah, they're fights, that they're making all this money. Well, didn't Floyd sue them because they weren't gonna pay him X amount of dollars and something like that happened? I know he did. I don't know if he won. I don't know where. Yeah, yeah, he sued him because the chain, is it the change the venue? Do you know that we talked about it? There was something that they didn't agree to and that they changed. Yeah, either the date or the venue or something. I can't remember what it was, Sal. But you're right. He did sue him. He sued him for like $2 or $4 million or something in that range, something ridiculous. I don't know where it's at. And I don't know if that was just a posturing. Any boxer that goes in there to fight one of those guys, I would think because as a boxer, as a fighter, that's your skill, right? So it's almost like if one of us was put into competition with like a fake fitness influencer, you know, personal trainer. $120 million lawsuit? What? Whoa, yeah. That's, that's... I said, was it supposed to be in Dubai? Yeah, see, it was location, right? Oh, wow. $120 million? Yeah, that's insane. I was way off on that. I thought it was way less. Dude, speaking of big money, did you guys see Amazon bought MGM? Yes, I did. $8.4 billion. Yeah, it's the second biggest acquisition in like the last decade with them, right? So Whole Foods was the last really big one I did. Now, you know why? Is it the programming? Is it the... Well, I mean, right. Movie potential? It's just the competition with streaming service. It's in order for, it's all about Amazon Prime, about keeping the Amazon Prime customers. They have to stay, one of the best perks about having Amazon Prime is you have access to great movies. And so in order for them to stay competitive, they almost, their hand is almost being forced in this direction to hang with all the Netflix, the HBO Max, Disney Plus, all these... I love it. Yeah, because you see that Netflix original just came out for the zombie movie, you know, with Dave Patista, is that his name? Is it good? You watch it? No, it's when I keep bringing up it that... Oh, that was a dumb one. That was kind of stupid. But I did see that, like, Chris Pratt has a movie with Amazon that's original and it actually looks really good. Like, I saw a trailer. I love it. I was like, hmm, this... I think this is great. Now, does this mean Amazon's gonna own the MGM casino and hotel in Vegas too? Is that all part of the whole deal? I would assume so, right? I would actually think it's different. I would think there's the production company MGM... Yeah, but does MGM own it all or is it separate? Yeah, but I think they bought MGM production company. I don't know if they bought MGM as a... Contire brand. Because that would be cool. Imagine a casino owned by Amazon. That is lame. That doesn't... As you say, that doesn't sound cool. No, no. I bet you would be rad. It's the opposite of cool. Jeff Bezos of running... I don't think so. That's a good question, though, Doug. Could you see if they... I don't think they do sell, though. I would assume that MGM has got many branches to the company. And they're probably selling off the production side, the movie making. And then they... I'm sure they have other... I mean, I'm guessing, I don't know. Oh, hey, I got some... I guess this is good news. I mean, it's kind of nerdy, but it's kind of cool. Did you guys know that the American... So they have these math competitions in the world, right? Where they... I guess they figure out complex equations or whatever. And China dominates these competitions. Well, guess who just won the latest math competition? America. Yeah. Really? Yeah, we did. Wow. You must say. Yeah, we beat them. I mean, I bet we haven't won in forever. I don't remember. I'll can look it up for you. But we beat them, and it was pretty... Apparently it was a big deal. Of course it is. Oh, here we go. Ready? How long has it been since we won? By the way, almost. I think... I don't know if this is true, but everybody on the American team... Was it a janitor from Boston? No. That's what I want to know. It says USA Math Team Olympiad beats China for the first time... And he's Chinese. In 30 years. Is he a Chinese guy? No, it's four kids. I don't know if they might all be Chinese. But that's the beauty of America. We got them all, man. But they won. Look at that in 30 years, though. Geez. I don't know that they kicked our ass for that freaking long. Wow. Speaking of... So you got basketball still? Speaking of smart... Yes, we got basketball. Yeah, we do. Speaking of smart stuff, there was this kid... Did you guys hear about the first toddler to be admitted into... What's it called? What's that organization, Doug, where your IQ needs to be super high? Mensa. Mensa. Oh, Mensa. Yes. There was a two-year-old that got in... I'm going to look it up because I forgot to save... This article. Two-year-old that got admitted into Mensa, the youngest member of Mensa. This two-year-old scored a 146 IQ test. Two-year-old? A two-year-old. How is that even possible, dude? You hear that? You hear that, honey? Even better than Dougie Houser. Yeah. We're behind. What the fuck? No, I've been... That's been the debate at home right now. No, no. Is it really? Yeah, but when I brought it at the beginning of the show, that was one of the things that we didn't get to that. But that's one of the things that we're going over. Listen to this. About 17 months old, she had recognized the whole alphabet numbers, colors, and shapes. Wow. She could say all the states just by the shape of the state. She could tell y'all that all the... Wow. Two-year-old? I mean, a two-year-old. She speaks over 50 signs in sign language. She can count to just a two-year-old. So it'd be like a virtuoso, like piano player or something. Can identify elements on the periodic table. Like it's really... And she's two, dude, two years old. Now, in order to get to a two-year-old there, I mean, you got to think they couldn't even start until at least six months. Actually teaching. I mean, the baby can barely see anything at that point. I know. And she's adorable, too. Is she all just modeling? Like... Have to. Yeah. Have to just... She just picks up on everything that's around her. Every waking moment they had to been trying to teach. This is what we need to realize, and this is the trippy thing, right? There's... We know this very... This is very easy to see, but there's these genetic... Obviously, most people are in the middle, right? So if you look at the ends of the spectrum, so on one end is really, really bad, on the other end is exceptional. I think that's her. And then most people are somewhere in the middle, right? So if you think of it physically, right? On the very, very end of the spectrum are people who are over seven feet tall, super, super rare, or these physical anomalies that are super strong, they don't work out, they can just bench press 300 pounds. It's like that with intelligence, too, that might even be more extreme. So there's people on such a far end of the spectrum that we probably sound like children when we talk about certain things. And this kid, two years old. Just imagine what she's going to grow up to become, yeah. Oh, who knows? Well, who knows? You know, it's like the government start kind of pulling a nail into torture, too. You know what's funny? Oftentimes these genius kids don't do much. Tortured, man. They don't. They end up going to school, they don't connect with other kids, they feel very, you know... And they end up doing okay, but oftentimes they don't do anything great because it was such a challenge for them to learn or whatever. It would be interesting to see where her passion's going to take her. What was that when... Well, she's adorable, huh? She's so cute. Wow. What was that? Man, you imagine you have a little genius kid. Part of me would be so proud. You'd be so stressed out. And part of me would be so stressed. Just like trying to protect anybody around her. Yeah, or they're like 10, and you're like, hey, you want to play with blocks? No, thanks, father. I'd like to do these equations. Can you do these with me? Sorry, kid. You're going to solve everything. Now, obviously, there's a big portion that's genetic here, but I also wonder how much effort like mom and dad put in to teach you. Well, I think you probably recognize your child's gift. And when you're that, here's the deal. You're not going to know all the stuff as a two-year-old unless you want to. It's like you can force your kid. At two years old, they probably... They love it more, mom, more. Dad, teach me more. And they're probably super... Like those little kids that are like athletic phenoms. I had a client once who's two and three-year-old was like, I couldn't believe the stuff this kid could do with a racket and a baseball bat. And I'm like, are you guys just making a prize? And they're like, no. He literally cries if we don't... I also think there's levels, man. Yeah, and I also... But I also think there's a lot to... I mean, hopefully, I bet you these parents, you got to give them credit too, right? So you recognize that, but you also have to still get them to do that and teach that, which takes some creativity, right? So this is the conversation like Katrina and I are having, like there's this like little debate at home right now and I'm like, because he's my son in the last, I would say, two or three months as showing signs of like wanting to learn. But that doesn't mean that he doesn't get distracted it doesn't mean that he gets bored sometimes and he doesn't want to do it. And so it takes an effort from me to like, or her or the nanny to like consciously like keeping him focused and engaged and making a game out of it to do that. And that I was complaining. I was telling her like, I don't like that the nanny doesn't do enough of this. Like she just takes the easy stuff. Of course he wants to go play in the sand and dig holes all day long. But I've now got him to where he's recognizing all the animals and the colors and he could put the puzzle pieces together. And so, but I also have to like get him over to do it. Like Max, go get your book. Let's do this. And then as he gets distracted, re-engage him with being with my voice and making fun. And so, you know, there's definitely got to be something here with the parents too. Like I wouldn't be surprised if they're teachers themselves or they also, they made a real serious effort to accelerate a kid that far by two years old. I mean, you can't think that's all genetic, right? Speaking of distractions, just your face just keeps distracting me. I don't understand how like, how much caldera stuff are you using? It's the A. So I'm loving the moisturizer. Is it moisturizer? Is that what it is, Doug? Because Doug, you're using it too, right? Yes. You have to say it like this. It's like a face wash first, right? And then it moisturizes. So you have, I have both. It's a two-part. Are you using both, too? Yeah, because I just started using that. So I keep the, I do the, I do the one in the shower. So I keep it in the shower. It's only for your face though, in the shower. Well, yeah, that's all. Or do you put it on your arm? That's all I'm using. No, face only. Yeah, just face. I just use it on my face. All up here. I imagine if it's good for your face, it's probably good everywhere else. And then after that, I put the moisturizer on afterwards. So you like it, Doug? I love it. So do I. Yeah. I think a lot of moisturizers or creams, for one, they have a really strong odor that I don't like. And then the other thing is that they're greasy. And this is not. It just like goes right into the skin. Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, here's the deal. We record our podcast. I'm not bullshitting. Go and watch our podcast from months ago to now and look at the difference. My handsome level. Yeah. It's like, well, it's like you're, it's like your haircut level, right? Oh my God. About the same thing. So I turn my head like this. Skin. I turn my head like this. M&A's. Speaking of Caldera, I know you just. Oh, I was with Max. Actually, he just dropped my interview. So I went down there to visit him and he's also working with Caldera. Also, and by the way, I noticed. Also a handsome man. He is very handsome. He didn't tell me I made a comment. We were on the podcast. I'm like, dude, you're like, keep looking younger. Like what the hell's going on? And he's like, oh, I'm using this product or whatever. I'm like, shut up. Do we work with them too? Yeah. So it was like this, you know, this funny moment. Actually, that was, and he actually put that in his podcast because he sponsored by them. So he's like, I'm glad you brought that up because it's like, we could talk. Now you did Max. I know Jen Cohen. I did that. By the way, I wouldn't want an entrepreneur magazine post that, right? Yeah, so 5 million. Yeah. So Jen Cohen, that interview went up and then Max is also just went up. Now you've done so many of these so far. I mean, obviously you're on your book tour right now. Any favorites, like as far as like you felt like, you know, you know when you hit it, right? Like when you get in like the flow of like communicating whatever it is you're talking about. Like what are some of your favorites you've done so far? You know, I like, you know, I like talking to Jen a lot because Jen is very genuine with the questions. Like these are things that she wants to know. And so she's easy to talk to. She's relatable. That's what her name's short for. Yes, exactly. Max, of course, Max is just, he's just a great, easy person to talk to. He's a natural media person. Like Max, you see him on camera. You hear him on a podcast. He's very polished. So that was, you know, also a lot of fun. I also did our friend Scott's, was an Ironsight podcast. And I thought I had a great, you know, he's a trainer, right? Yeah. So we had like a night, a good conversation that you would have between personal trainers. Yeah. So I enjoyed that. Well, now you're saying things that you enjoy, which one do you think was your best representation of the book, right? You're selling the book, obviously, on all these conferences. I think so far, Max and Jen, I think I was able to really communicate it very well. I would say those are two, probably pretty close. You had another one I listened to I thought was really good. It was a while back. It was like a month ago. I can't remember who it was that I thought you did really good. Yeah, thanks. I appreciate that. No, it's, look, I've been talking about this for, all of us have been talking about the same stuff for so long that you just, you get very, it becomes automatic. It becomes very polished, right? Because you practice it so often and think that's what I'm doing when I'm talking about resistance training and its benefits and all that stuff. Hey, real quick before we get to the questions, I know you love it when we talk about UFOs, Adam. Oh, God. But there's more. It's not UFOs, bro. You gotta fix it. It keeps happening, bro. There's more stuff. You guys sound behind times here. Come on. We're just trying to keep up. Listen to this. This is really what this is about. This just, this isn't more shit. They're really, I swear to God, Justin. Yeah. They're preparing us. I know. For the big drop. Yeah. They're going to drop some crazy shit and they're testing us. Check this out, bro. Okay. The U.S. Navy now has released this, that they detected unexplainable mysterious objects moving at hundreds of knots under the water. So these are called USOs. I think we said that last time. Unidentified submerged objects. So the Navy is like, we actually have picked this up on our sensors and shit of things moving sonar data. Okay. Going hundreds of knots under water. Okay. Break down knots. How fast is a knot? I have no idea. Actually, I know the origin of knots. Somebody explained it to me one time and I was just like, okay, I'm never going to be able to recite that. But yeah. Is that a basic thing? I know what the origins are. There is a speed. Doug will find it. But I know what the origin is. What's your? They would tie knots on a rope a certain distance and then they would travel. And it's how many of these knots that would pass through a particular like measuring, like like how many knots pass through this ring would tell us that we're going this many knots fast. And I forgot what it was. So what is one knot? Oh, it's almost a one mile an hour. Right. So 1.1 miles an hour is one knot. Maybe look up the origin of knots too, because that'll be cool. So think about this way. Hundreds of miles an hour under water. Do you know what that how impossible that is? Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying that is? Underwater blazing through all that. It's like a speed. It's under water. Yeah. Is it we don't have anything that does that fast? No, of course not. Submarines don't go quick. Uh-oh. No, they're slow. Even the James Bond stuff we've seen, like it wouldn't be able to pull it out. Bro, so look at this, right? So the term knot dates from the 17th century when sailors measured the speed of their ship by using a device called a common log. The device was a coil of rope with uniformly spaced knots attached to a piece of wood shaped like a slice of pie. So however many knots passed would tell them however, you know, whatever speed was. Doug, look up the fastest underwater submarine. And let's see how many knots. Well, if it can create its own gravity and have that sort of separation, like then there's no friction. Of course, it goes as fast as it wants. Yeah. Well, exactly. Like no way it's passing through water, but rather it's probably creating a bubble of space. So a better thing, what's the fastest like? 44 knots, bro. That's the fastest submarine that we have. Hundreds of knots. Now is that, is this a dumb question too? Is that faster than any dolphin or any animal? Yeah. Is like, what's the fastest? I would assume. Yeah. What's the fastest dolphin? The fastest. Dolphin's probably the fastest, right? Was there anything faster than a dolphin underwater? Yeah, I think a, what's the fish with the long, was it a swordfish? Oh, yeah. I know tuna. I think tuna might actually be faster than dolphins. Really? Bluefin tuna, you ever seen those fuckers? They're made for speed. Yeah, Doug, tell me the fastest fish. Oh, yeah. 68 miles per hour. Wow. Also, a fish can go faster than our fastest submarine. Wow, that's actually pretty good. Sailfish. Sailfish. Oh, sailfish. Yeah, yeah. Wow. This is the big trophy ones. Look up how fast a bluefin tuna is, and then a dolphin. Get your fingers moving over there. Right, that's stuff. Thanks, Doug. Keep going to it. Today's fish trivia. Google. Yeah. You guys ever seen it like an actual tuna up close? They're all muscle, and they're made for speed. They look like torpedoes the way they move. Oh, yeah. Not so impressive. Oh, that's not. Oh, four knots? Yeah, you were way off. Wow. That's pretty fair. That's a terrible example. Come on, bro. Wait, hold on. Compared to 16. No, no, hold on a second. Capable of burst speeds of 20 knots. That's pretty freaking good. 20 miles an hour underwater. Look up a dolphin. I could probably do that. Let's use faster dolphin or bluefin tuna. My money's on dolphin. What about you, Justin? I mean, sorry, tuna. Tuna? Yeah, I think dolphin's faster. I'll go tuna. Nope, looks like it's the bluefin. They could reach speeds up to nine knots. So no, not even close. Wow. The bluefin tuna gets away. Wins. That's fast. You don't know what's that fast. Now, that's crazy, though. So you said a few hundred knots. So here's the thing. So do you think that we just haven't been getting this information forever and then all of a sudden now it's like, oh, it's open. And so we'll tell you all these unique experiences that we've not catalogued or we give it and then it becomes like classified. I think so. What if it was a missile? You can't go that fast underwater. A missile can't go that fast? Underwater? Yeah. Torpedo. There ain't no torpedo that goes hundreds of knots underwater. Really? What's fastest torpedo done? Do you know what that would finger fatigue? By the way, do you know what that would do underwater if a torpedo went hundreds of miles an hour underwater? It would create like this crazy wave. Yeah, or turbulence or what. Yeah. And so that's the other thing. And so it wasn't creating like. No. Okay. No. So this is again back to the whole thing that's like frictionless. Okay. There is a rocket powered super cavitating torpedo that can go up to 200 knots. That's fast, but not as fast. You said a few hundred knots. Few is like three or 400. See, it was probably a torpedo. Yeah. They wouldn't have known if it was or it was actually unidentified. Well, it was not theirs. Huh? They didn't identify it. That's a good point. Yeah. So identified because it's not ours. You know, somebody else's torpedo fired underwater. It identifies as a USO. Yeah. Honey, where is this headband? Who's this headband? I don't know. It looks like it's an unidentified headband. So who knows? Who's it? It might be alien. I have no idea. Now with all this nautical talk, I want to do a shout out to the Naval Diving and Salvage Training Command in Panama City Beach, Florida. Yeah. Thank you so much. Hold on a second. Navy, Naval Diving and Salvage Training. I bet they find a lot of cocaine floating off of Florida. That's like the hub of like floating cocaine. Like this is what they find. Every time I read about that, there's bricks of stuff. Yeah. Hey, I hope you're enjoying this podcast real quick. Head over to mindpumpfree.com. Go check out all the free stuff that you can get. There's a lot of free stuff that we're giving away only at mindpumpfree.com. All right. Enjoy the rest of the podcast. First question is from Omar Martinez, 08. Can you guys go over new tropics and your personal experiences with them? You've probably had the most, Sal, right? Yeah. And he's tried them all. Well, I've given you guys a bunch, too. Yeah. No, I've tried a lot. And honestly, consistently, nothing beats pure for me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, the way I feel from that. That's my favorite. The other ones, hit and miss, might get a headache, might feel a spike, then come down. I think because they use artificial ingredients, I think. Some of the ones that I've had before, I think. Yeah. I mean, OK, to be clear, this is when people ask us fitness questions, what's the best supplement for, whatever. Nothing's going to come close to good diet, good sleep. Sleep, by the way, is huge. Whenever I would have clients who had issues with cognitive performance, nine out of 10 times, it was either they weren't getting enough sleep or they had crappy sleep. Or even like over-consuming carbohydrates, like being just overloaded with calories. Right, or diet or whatever. It makes a huge difference. And they show that exercise makes a big difference with cognitive performance, especially resistance training. In fact, there was a study done out of Sydney, Australia that showed that resistance training is the only form of exercise that seems to prevent or halt the progression of dementia or Alzheimer's, probably because it increases insulin sensitivity. And that's part of maybe they think one of the reasons why our cognitive function declines is our ability to utilize insulin starts to get poor or whatever. So those things are the most effective. But, OK, as far as supplements are concerned, creatine has been shown to boost cognitive function. Then you have the class of drugs called racetems. These are these. And these are these are actual synthetic. These are the ones I don't want. That synthetic was the worst. Yeah, like paracetam, aniracetam, and there's lots of others. I've tried them and what they seem to do for me is almost give me like a stimulatory effect. Don't know if I get a cognitive boost. Like I feel like I could definitely take things that will increase my wakefulness. Like caffeine will do that. But does that mean I'm actually thinking sharper than I would if I was already kind of awake? Does that make sense? So it makes me think sharper, mainly because I'm not feeling as tired. But let's say I wasn't tired, everything was fine. Would it improve my cognitive performance? And studies show that, no. Like for example, Adderall, right? They do studies on Adderall and people report that they feel smarter, but they actually do tests and they find you don't. You just like what you're doing more. They think you're smarter. Yeah, you think you're smarter. So I don't know, it's very interesting. But the one that seems to be the most consistent I'm with you is the Pure. All the racetems, they make me, they can make me feel kind of crappy sometimes. Yeah, I get headaches from that. Or when I come down, I don't feel good. Pure is one that I take regularly. We take it before we podcast. And now is that because the reason why we probably feel that way is because everything in it's all natural? Is that what it is? Natural, it's not super hyper strong. It's got lion's mane in there. It's got some other compounds in there that help. It's also got some gut health. And it's actually a nice compliment to caffeine, which obviously you guys know I'm pretty much addicted to. But it's one of those things like I can, I can get, I feel sharper. And it really is the effect of it is only when I'm super consistent with it. So it'll take like a few times and then like I feel like it really starts to kick in, like maybe the fifth or sixth time that I'm like using it and then I'm like on fire. Yeah, another thing that seems to help some people is to do a ketogenic diet. So some people will report that when their body is running on ketones that they feel sharper or they're able to think faster. I'm like that. So you guys know that I do, I go on a ketogenic diet maybe twice a year and I do it specifically for that. I'll go on it because I want to get those mental benefits. I don't like the performance benefits. I tend to lose strength on them or whatever. But when I do do it, I do notice that I get a little sharper in the way. I notice the same thing, but I actually don't have to be on the keto diet. You can just fast. So I feel the same benefits by it. Sure. So there's something that like if I have to do, a lot of times when I have an interview like on another show in the morning or whatever. Just fast. Yeah, I stay fasted. And I just, I feel way, way sharper than if I were to go eat like a 600 calorie breakfast. This is a booming segment of the supplement industry. I remember when we first started the podcast, how I would bring it up and it was kind of this new thing. Yeah. And remember how we would speculate? And I'd be like, you know, I bet you this is going to be a huge part of the supplement industry. Where did it start? Because I feel like it was in Navy SEALs. Yeah, Navy SEALs are like, yeah, like fighter pilots. Like I feel like that was like, do you know so? Promoted. Well, they would take drugs. So they would take amphetamines or medaffinil. Medaffinil was a big one. That's the fighter pilots. But there's, I thought the SEALs were the ones that were using a race attem and all those sudden precipitate. I don't know. I know that they're prescription in Russia, I believe in Europe as well. But they're mixed because I've given all, okay, so here's the deal. And the audience knows this. We've talked about this. I love experimenting with supplements and I love experimenting with you guys with supplements. Oftentimes. I'm like, come and see what happens to Adam. Yeah, oftentimes I'll get, we'll get something sent to us. And then I'll hand, and you guys trust me, which is wonderful. I'll just say, hey, try this. We're losing that trust by the way. Well, come on. At least 70% of the time, that's all good. Is that 30%? I'll give you 70%. Could you Google magic the origin of that? Neutropics? Yeah, origin of Neutropics. Yeah, I think even the term Neutropic was, I believe was a new one. I think they came out with that, like not even that many decades ago. What was it before? There wasn't one. There wasn't a term Neutropic. Yeah. So I think it was like maybe in the 70s or 60s, I might be wrong. Let's see if Doug finds it. Oh, there we go, 1972. Isn't that weird how I remember weird shit like that? You could literally ask me, like where are we? Yeah, 1972. Where we keep the teaspoons in my house, and I'll be like, I have no idea. Yeah. Jessica gets away. That's how I am with commercial jingles or whatever. Yeah. But yeah, it's an exploding segment of the supplement industry. And I predict it to continue to explode, especially as the aging population continues to become more interested in taking supplements. And as we start to idolize people in tech, like 30 years ago, really smart people were not idolized. Today, that's because tech is running the world, now it's like this big thing. And so everybody's interested in making themselves smarter or whatever. So it's this exploding segment. But yeah, so far consistently from what I've given you guys, some stuff gives you headaches, some stuff makes you crash. I remember one time I gave Adam something, and then an hour later he's like, he was done. He had to go home or whatever. That was awful. Yeah. But the pure consistently. Is biohacking still a thing? Of course. I haven't seen like, you know how it was, it was pretty much in a lot of magazines. It was like still the thing. So it's still going strong. Oh, hell yeah. Okay. Hell yeah. I haven't seen much from it. Does psilocybin fall into this category? Would it be considered? You know what's funny? Microdosing. Yeah, microdosing. They haven't put them in that new tropic category, but they are finding that people get like positive mood effects from some of the stuff. This is anecdotal. It's not a lot of studies yet to support it, and it's kind of getting popular here in Silicon Valley. In fact, there was a guy that was fired recently. It's very popular. It's stealing fire. The whole book is all about that. There was a CEO literally who got fired for microdosing LSD. Oh, I know that. Maybe Doug can pull it up. How'd you not bring that up? I forgot, but does it recent? Look up CEO fired from microdosing. It should come up. Oh, wow. And it was a tech CEO. Here, huh? I think he was here in the past. Wow, how did no one bring this up? That's interesting. Yeah, I don't know. And was it relatively recent or what? Yes, it was not that. So who is it, Doug? Does it say? Yeah, Justin Zoo of Iterable Inc dismissed as CEO. Because he microdosed LSD at work. He told everybody. Yeah, he told everybody. Yeah, I was going to say, it's like one of those things. First rule of Fight Club. Dude, it's like that time. Is that like the early days, Adam, when we did that podcast and we thought we were microdosing? Whoops. It was more of a macro toast. Yeah, yeah, that was not a good idea. Cheers. Wow, that's crazy. Next question is from Zilchis Chris. How can I quit my sugar addiction once and for all? I have yo-yo eaten and have quit sugar my entire 32-year-old life. This one, Adam, I think this is your deal. Yeah, you know, this was actually something that I actually really liked the ketogenic diet for. Or at least what I learned from it or got from it. So even though I don't follow a ketogenic diet, before that I was like a carb junkie. I was eating 400 to 600 grams of carbs every single day and I love sugar and I crave sugar all the time. And so it's a constant battle. And I was always looking for things like hacks to like the rice cakes with cocoa whip and things like that to satisfy that craving versus trying to find ways to suppress it. And when I went on the ketogenic diet, I noticed that. I noticed that it dramatically went down, like almost completely gone. And that was one of my favorite things about running it. Now, I don't think there's anything magical about the ketogenic diet so much as I think that when you run a higher fat, higher type of protein, either one or both type of a diet opposed in a lower carbohydrate diet, I think it totally makes a huge difference. So, you know, I've completely changed my macro profile. Now, like somebody who was consistently eating 400 to 600 grams of carbohydrates, now I'm like 200. So it's nowhere near that. And I don't have those cravings. Like I can't even tell you the last time I had candy. I'm sure I brought it up the last time I had candy on the show. I don't even eat it that often where it was like a constant battle and struggle for me. And same thing like with the ice cream. Yeah, anecdotally speaking, I don't know if there's any research to support this, but anecdotally, sugar is one of those things that if you have it, you want more of it. And if you don't have it, at least initially you probably want it, right? So if you cut it out, you're gonna have kind of this, these cravings that might last a week or two. Then at some point, it's like you don't want it anymore. And this I've noticed with myself, I've noticed with countless clients. And so the strategy to have a little bit of sugar in your diet seems to not work for people who have, who say that they have a sugar addiction. That's me, like it's all or nothing. It's like I cannot do the, like Katrina, she doesn't have a sugar addiction. So she can have a little bit. She can buy a freaking, you know, chocolate bar and put it in the freezer and have a square of it for the next two months, you know? And it not be like that, I do not have it. If I have one square, and even if I tell myself I'm just gonna have one, I'll eat that one square. And then I'm thinking about that chocolate bar. It kicks you into gear. Yeah, for the next couple of days, like literally like an addict. I totally feel like an addict when it comes to sugar. And of course I know why, because of how I ate it when I was growing up, all the way even through my 20s. So for me, one of the best things to kick the sugar addiction was running a higher fat or higher protein type of diet and a lower carbohydrate. Doesn't mean you have to be all, like you don't have to be ketogenic to where you're no carbohydrates, but stick too low. And then the carbs that I do intake are like low glycemic stuff, like yams and sweet potatoes, quinoa, like those type of carbohydrates, maybe rice, like those types of carbohydrates. And if any that I have in the diet and then predominantly protein and fat. Next question is from Hades Gray. What exercise should we and shouldn't we do when we are doing low reps? Okay, so technically any exercise can be done with low reps, but some exercises just lend themselves better to low reps and others, not so much. Typically, generally speaking, it's the single joint isolation exercises that tend to not be so, done so well with low reps and it's the compound lifts that tend to work better with low reps. Now, why is that? Well, when you're doing a single joint exercise, like a side lateral, let's use that as an example, right? That's for the shoulders, right? When I'm doing low rep, when I'm doing, first of all, when I'm doing that exercise, what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to really isolate the lateral head of my shoulder. I'm trying to really feel it in my shoulder. If I wanted to, I could lift more weight by utilizing the muscles of my upper back and my traps and momentum. Yeah, right. And so it just becomes so- Now that takes away from the intent. Yes, and it becomes like such a struggle to do like four heavy reps of side laterals and not turn it into an upper back exercise. This is very, very difficult. Now with squats or dead lifts or bench press, it's much easier to maintain good form and go low reps, but those isolation exercises, they can be a bit tough with a low rep. So it's okay to do lower reps, typically with the isolation stuff, but I don't like to go below like eight reps with that kind of stuff because I've just found, even with myself, my form starts to go off. Well, that's the biggest thing for me and I've seen this in the gym and the side lateral is a great example of when you see somebody like that and then they add a little English to it. It's like now they're getting, you know, this momentum that they're kind of thrust in their hips into it. You know, they're leaning back with their shoulders. You know, they're incorporating their upper back muscles. They're just a lot more things have to happen to move that heavier weight up versus like really just honing in and doing what your intention is to really try to activate more specifically, you know, your deltoids in this. Now we've answered this question several times in the show of the last, you know, five, six years and every time we do, we always get somebody who messages somewhere, you know, and tries to argue or debate it or, you know, here's the thing, this question's presented in shouldn't and should and it's not, it's not a shouldn't and should. It's not black or white. Exactly, it's not black or white and nobody in here is saying that I've never done three reps of bicep curls. So yes, I have done three reps of bicep curls before. It's just, they don't lend themselves well to your point. So I just want to make that clear because I know we'll get some knucklehead that we'll find that will feel the need to defend low reps on a lateral raise or low reps on a bicep curl and say it's, you know, been the best thing for them or whatever. It's just, it's not ideal. It doesn't mean you can't do it and there's not some value to it because I definitely, I did this not that long ago where I grabbed really heavy weight and did three reps of bicep curls really slow and controlled. So, but also the tempo of it. So I was not using English on it. I was still was trying to control and have good form. It was just, I couldn't get more than three reps out of it. So it doesn't mean that it's worthless. It doesn't mean that you can't do it. We just always come from a trainer's perspective. And when I think of- We know what tends to happen. That's right. And when I think of 99% of my clientele, you're right. I would never do heavy lateral raises. I would never do concentration curls that where we would do less than six reps. So for the maturity- We're not speaking to the exceptions. Yes. We're trying to give information that like most people benefit from us. Next question is from Pat Norrie. What are things each of you preach but struggle to practice yourself? You know what's funny? Everything. It's 100% true. It's easy to communicate. And this is the key and this is important. I'm talking to trainers right now. You got to be real and don't feel like you need to be perfect in order to be a trainer. Now what I mean by that is it's okay to continually seek to be the example for your clients. But don't be afraid to communicate them to them the realness of what it's like to eat healthy and get good sleep and exercise consistently because they'll connect better with you. But the truth is nothing we talk about on the show is easy. Now we have ways of creating discipline around them. We have ways of making ourselves more consistent. There are things that I definitely struggle with more than others. So I'll give you an example of one that I preach but I'm terrible at in terms of practice and that's supplement use. We always talk about all the time about how supplements aren't the answer and you don't need to take a million different things. And yet I walk around with a bag full of supplements. I come to work every single day with a bag of supplements. I go in the back and I try different things all the time. I know this is something that I have a challenge with. I'm way better than I used to be to give myself a little credit. But I'm way far away from what's ideal. But I mean none of this stuff is easy. In fact that's probably what makes a trainer a better trainer is in fact if I were to talk to somebody about the struggles of supplement addiction I would probably communicate it better than somebody who never had a struggle with it at all because I get it. I know what it's all about. But it's all hard man to maintain a fit and healthy lifestyle requires more discipline and is more challenging than to live in some respects than to live a life of not exercising and eating whatever you want. Of course that's reality is it's more challenging in many other ways as your health declines and all that other stuff. But that's also part of the reason why it's meaningful. If this was easy I don't think we would value it nearly as much. Yeah I know personally like I am pretty consistent about what I'm doing with myself in terms of like training and lifting weights and in terms of like stuff that I have that athlete mentality that's still there. But with that comes the struggle of the nutrition side which has always been one of those things that I knew even getting into personal training I'm like oh man I gotta figure this out now. You know like it before it was like I was doing enough movement and everything was working enough to where I was that typical stereotypical athlete where I would just kind of eat to fuel my needs and it didn't really matter where the source was coming from. You know I built in all these bad habits like leading into that which I didn't really address because my body was you know I had muscles I had the definition I had all that stuff but it was just because of the insane amount of activity I was you know a part of and so to really nail that in it was a big struggle and I actually like sought a lot of help for it and I've you know incorporated people in that were professionals, dieticians you know even like a personal chef I'm kind of bringing all this stuff into to try and like build more value in what I was presenting my clients and it's like I have this built in knowledge now that that's pretty crazy but it's also to me I just don't I don't care enough about it personally to sit in the nuance of it and discuss it all the time it actually frustrates me that I don't care as much about it just drives me crazy and it's a struggle but it also like I know how to manipulate things personally and how to navigate through it and the knowledge is there the application of it has always been a bit of friction for me mobility so and I'm dealing with this right now so I do really well with giving myself a goal and and getting really focused on that specific goal and the last couple years a big part of that was mobility right I made a real conscious effort to say okay I'm going to get a deeper squat I'm going to eliminate this back pain and hip pain that I'm dealing with and I thought I did a great job but I also completely just I knew in order to do that I had to let go of strength goals let go of how I looked it's all about how I felt and moved and and I had a lot of success with that in the last I would say I don't know eight months or so maybe close to a year now I've transitioned back into you know building my aesthetic physique again I'm and I'm enjoying it and I'm you know back to sending my wife naked photos again and stuff because I'm feeling myself I keep tagging you I'm in that group so I'm back to feeling good like that yeah I feel really good about what I've done in the last eight months or so and and enjoying it but what I also know is because I got so focused in that direction I've laid off of the discipline that I had built the previous two years and doing my 1990s in my combat now what's cool is that in that time I did build enough good habits that like I like I still have an incredibly deep squad I showed a video of me still being able to do that barefoot and I've made a lot of progress there but I've been battling with my hip pain again and I'm battling that because I know I'm not putting the work into my 1990s like I should be and you know and I'm also focused on building a body right now more so than that so what I struggle with and probably will always is you know knowing that it's all those things that I should be addressing and I tend to do really well focused on one thing or another versus like being a little more balanced with my training and so I'm there again you know trying to balance myself out and I don't know if I'll ever end I think this the thing that's important and it's kind of to Justin's point is you know like you is being aware right being aware that that's your issue and then just never allowing because what we're just talking to somebody about talking about balance how there's there's no such thing as like real balance like real balance is you're focused in one area then you shift your weight over to another area you shift your weight to another place like like the same way that you would ride a surfboard or a snowboard or skateboard you're never you know perfectly balanced on the board you're always kind of as life is changing you're navigating a little left a little right like and so I think that your pursuit and journey to be very healthy and fit and longevity is kind of like that I don't know if you're wherever perfectly balanced sometimes one thing you're focused on a little more than other and so you know that's definitely my challenge I'm not as good on my mobility right now because I'm focused the other way yeah I think it's there's a mistake to when people idolize their whatever their coaches let's just stick with fitness as like that's the ideal and the problem with that is that they're they're human we're all human nobody is perfect everybody has their challenges and there's a long way to fall when you put someone on that high of a pedestal I've seen people like you know like it's like that that trainer that fitness influencer and then someone sees the meeting a burger and takes a picture and posts it and everybody's like oh yeah he eats a burger too like well yeah I mean you know he's also human he also lives here just like the rest of us well not only that but they also are you know you're normally idolizing them for like one aspect of their life and you have no idea about how out of balance they probably are and other things just to my point like you're never really that balanced you're kind of and if you like you're so focused right now your personal you know journey is I just want to get fit and shredded and my coach is just the amazing physique and it comes so easy for him in this net but then what you might not realize is he's got a shit relationship with his wife and his kids and you have an amazing one because you prioritize that more than he does so you know be careful like you say of idolizing these coaches but it's all hard it's all hard you're living in a world that you're surrounded by fast easy extremely tasty food life is inactive it's designed that way it's not designed and to be super physically demanding which is a good thing but of course challenges come with that we're brought up in this kind of world to value food for its taste we're we're taught to value you know things for how they make us feel rather than how they make improve our health so it's a struggle you live in this it's going to be tough you have to make conscious decisions every day it's tough and so we struggle with all the stuff that we preach of course we talked about the ones that we struggle the most with but we struggle with all of them the difference is this is what we've made our career around this is what we love to practice and train with the most and when we communicate by the way what you're hearing from us is our experience but mainly what you're hearing is of the clients that we've worked with and their experience because you know my experience is coming from a person who loves fitness and works in fitness probably not going to relate to you as much if you're the average person but I can tell you a lot about what worked for people that I worked with who are very similar to you who don't have any plans on working out six days a week who probably realistically are only going to ever work out consistently two or three days a week who have no desires to do what it takes to get a six pack but want to be fit and healthy they have no desire to eat perfectly but they want to eat in a way that you know not only they enjoy how they eat but they also want to have longevity and so that's what you'll hear us communicate all the time but it's hard it's it's hard and hey but that's a good thing that's what makes it meaningful look if you like our information you like our content head over to mind pump free dot com we got so many guides there that can help you and they cost nothing they're all totally free that's why it's called mind pump free dot com you can also find all of us on instagram so you can find Justin at mind pump Justin me at mind pump Sal and Adam at mind pump adam self image is am I a person worthy of being taken care of am I human worthy of some dignity some respect I have some good qualities to me I'm not a bad person body image is just objective I look in the mirror I'm short I'm tall I'm hairy bald or I'm fat or I'm overweight