 I don't think I really need the microphone but it's for recording purposes. So I'm Ashley and I'm the NDF board member responsible for these amazing people and the portfolio is the professional development. So here with me we've got a few of our regional ambassadors and these guys are volunteers in the areas and they create events. They're a contact point for you guys and represent you in all matters if you have any with the NDF. And I just want to take this opportunity to thank you all for your hard work in your regions because you've made my job really easy. So the hui that they run were previously called barcamps and these were renamed Regional Digital Forum with the hashtag GLAM IT or GLAM IT because we thought that reflected our stakeholders so the GLAM sector and the IT sector. The planning day that we had was really awesome and we've got four new regional reps in there proving great additions to our whānau. So the Regional Digital Forum were held in Auckland, Canterbury, Manawatu, Whanganui, Northland, Otago, Hawke's Bay and Wellington and over 150 people attended nationwide. So let's meet the group. So if we go down the line and if you can introduce yourself and which region you represent and if you're new or if you've been doing it for a few years. Kia ora koutou. I'm Lorraine Johnston. I work at Dunedin Public Libraries and I represent the Otago, Southland region and I'm a newbie. I just started and was it July? We got the training for August or sometimes. Kia ora. Kia ora. I'm Merida. I work at the Nelson Provincial Museum and I'm the Regional Ambassador for the Nelson Tasman region and this is my second year doing this. Kia ora. I'm Harley. I work at Taronga City Libraries and I work in the Bay of Plenty area but we also cast our eye over the hill to the Waikato region. Kia ora. My name is Sabina. I work for the Promoptistic Libraries. I am the Ambassador for Northland and this is my good year. Kia ora. I'm Cathy Dunn and I'm responsible for the Hawkes Bay region. I've got co-opted into this because of my pre-assessor as do to the baby in and out. So in terms of being scared, I work at Canterbury Museum and I'm at Canterbury Regional Rout. This is my second year running. Hi, I'm Kevin Gordon. I work here in Wellington at Sydney Galloway Wellington and I've been here for these many few months in. So now we're going to go down the line and I just, you know, this... why there's not many people in the room, you know, we're recording this with prosperity so it's good that we share this information. So if you guys can go down and let us know what you did at your hui and what themes kind of were discussed at your hui in your regions. So Southland, we had a hui at the public library which was attended by 20 people from as far north as Oamaru and as far south as Bimbacargo and reaching out into Central. We were really lucky that we have an NDF board member resident in Dunedin so she came along and she gave us that Sarah Gallagher. She gave us a quick talk about the board and how the regional hui's fit into the board. We had... So we had five... six, maybe. We had sort of short ten-minute sessions in the morning which were pre-arranged and then we did a bar camp startling in the afternoon. So we had Otago Museum talk to us about their Māli Tonga digitisation programme. Somebody from Otago University Library talking about their dams that had just been digital asset management system which had just been launched a week before. A representative from the Hocken Archives talking about their Marston project and also issues they have in grappling with the whole born digital thing. And then Emma Milburn who spoke with me yesterday about the Scat and Seeds Wreckerlyne Saichi also talked about there on the day. The afternoon, our breakouts included topics like the basics sort of getting started with the whole digital thing. Hosting options, community engagement, standards and metadata, open access and reuse. And then a section that I called Geek Stuff because I didn't know how else to describe it where they talked about dams and digital preservation and digital curation and coding and all those things that were way above my head. I have a confession to make in the Nelson Tasman region we haven't run our hui yet and the reason for that is that things just conspired to mean that our regions very spread out and it takes a long time for people to get into the centre and to Nelson from Golden Bay or over near the west coast. There was a regional museums meeting which brought lots of people in and then a month later there was the net hui which was run and a lot of people from the regions were coming in for that as well so throwing in a I glam it hui in that same timeframe would have just been I would be asking too much of people's petrol money and their organisations so we'll have it in about three weeks time from now. But in the net hui we did run a culture and heritage online session which was very much like what a bar camp would be and had the same types of people and one of the really interesting themes that came up at this net hui which was a lot more IT internet people than usually come to the NDF things which is normally culture and heritage sector heavy was we realised as we were talking that there was a disconnect between digitising objects and then just being digital and thinking about the world and the digital space and the IT people were being digital with what they were talking about and the museum cultural sector people were continually talking about digitising objects and it actually took a while to unpick the fact that we were talking about different things which was a really interesting and once we realised that we had some really good quality conversations around that topic. Okay. And Tia Moody we ran an original digital forum at our brand speaking new grant and library which was fantastic and so we managed to attract all these people from areas in the Waikata as well as the Bay of Plenty. We had Tarama Waihi, Matamata Rotorua Thames and Hamilton Folk. So we were a little bit light on the western Bay of Plenty but quite a variety of people, a lot of museum folk and library folk and just really frustrated that we can't get those IT people coming along because I think they'd be a real asset to us although I'm not sure if they're interested in us. So yeah, just finding a way to get IT people into these regional forums would be great. We came up with four things that people wanted to talk about. One was digitisation and a big part of that conversation was the waning of the kete and the waxing of the new digital enhanced digital New Zealand site and there's a lot of interest in that. We talked about planning projects, how to prioritise digitisation projects and we compared and contrasted the Bay of Plenty's Gifford Cross collection of negatives which were the former owners of the Bay of Plenty Times and that collection was gifted to the library after a major fire in the 80s and so we're thinking what do we do about that and then in the Waikata where they have a whole lot of negatives owned by Fairfax which they're not allowed to do anything with a whole sale that they have presented a selection of them online so how did that sort of debate about looking after somebody's assets and then but who owns it and who's allowed to do stuff with it and the risk of acetate negatives and so that. We talked about community collaboration and there's a lot of questions around the use of navel here as a social media forum we talked about the role of libraries educating people around digital literacy as well as information literacy particularly in the food street which is a bit of a hashtag in this very little conference in the future of libraries we talked about the challenges and consistent was the message we're underfunded and we have an IT team that the risk a person don't support us so there's a lot of frustration around those two issues particularly the smaller museums and archives and then we did a bit of a chat about technical issues and in the afternoon we looked at fixity as a practice how can small libraries and museums get that practice at number of digital assets and we looked at perma CC which is an archiving site for so you can site for legal reasons or academic reasons and we talked about how that might be useful for maybe backing up the core articles that you've put a lot of research into in your kit there so that you've got it as it was prior to being adjusted into the digital particularly let's say community groups that feel like they gave us content so that we could archive it for them and we can't actually we don't really know what that will look like in the future so perma CC is a potential solution last year I ran six sessions and all six farmers just allowed me this year time wise I ran one session in the Whangarei Library first of all I realised that I am not the farmer the rep for the National Digital Forum I am the Northland rep for the National Digital Forum so there is a bit of a hint maybe we do need more reps for areas that actually bigger than townships I had six people at hand it was only a two hour session because the only spice I had available in the Whangarei Library and it was greatly appreciated it was a mix of public librarians North Tech and museum staff we had some general great discussion just about what the National National Digital Forum actually is in my talks and connection with other people many people, especially in libraries actually have no idea what the National Digital Forum does so I think we might need to do a bit of work on that I made a start and put something into the library life publication that the answer brings out the conference and brought up what the National Digital Forum does for a reason in our session we covered that can be taken out of libraries, museums like pop-up sessions we talked about cataloging e-material that is not really quite known that's not digital items in Northland Northland we collect Whangarei Library has a site for this so we looked into this and how we can maybe all resource it in some way just looking in a kaipara Whangarei and North Tech museums that item came up how to create forms like YouTube tutorials and how to do any of this so some of us have done others so it's just more or less in the funnels it's like we need to go back together and just create little things like this one thing came up that nothing much happens in the funnels so could we do run sessions like National Forum session that was really just talking and coming up with ideas and just sharing ideas to come and say anything but I had no luck but just having more often things like regular meetings I took that back to my manager who was very supportive and I thank you very much for sending me down here but the question is if we do those sessions what are we getting out of that so that was what I could think I agree with Sabine it was really useful just to get together with cultural heritage centre we didn't get any putting our hands up from IT either it was just very useful just to get together and talk about things that we had in common in terms of what we might need to share in terms of skills or what we might need to find other staff who might need to find to get things done so we had about 25 people attend our forum and many from our own institutions and public libraries we did have one from the Wai Paoa Museum and the Gypsy Rose Team Museum which is a charitable trust so there's not much funding I mean it was the internal problems of needing funding and staffing to get these projects off the ground really in terms of digital projects because there's lots of things on our wishlist but public libraries are really looking to do more digital in the near future which was the presentation we had was from Jessica Moran from the Alexander Terrible Library who helped the MTG with our first born digital item and her presentation was really interesting soon this is going to be commonplace it might be sooner for us I think it will be a little bit longer for smaller places Wai Paoa Museum just has a website no database that's all just coming on the streets these are the next ones I organise I think I'll probably do a little bit more grass roots and on the afternoon we broke out and talked about the two main issues were copyright and social media how to to get people interested in what we have to offer and following on I hosted a meetup with some local history researchers and we talked about forming another group to advocate for resources to scan our collections because again funding and time we don't always have them in our own institutions but perhaps as a combined group we might be able to so probably next year I'll ask for more input from people who I invite to tailor the day in terms of presentations so Canterbury is very fortunate to have a very well connected and relatively large group of people who are involved in digital humanities and different things like that this year I decided to hold the who we out in Ashburton in the hopes of catching some people from some of the smaller communities in our region and to be honest most of us took a carpool from Christchurch but we were able to get some people from the Ashburton Museum and the Ashburton Art Gallery which is fantastic and the Ashburton Art Gallery was able to support us providing a space so all in all over 30 people attended people were stepping in and out over the course of the day and not everybody wrote their name down so it's a bit hard to get an exact figure some of the topics that we discussed were linked open data and cleaning messaging data but some voices also rang through that the basics are still needed some people weren't certain how to catalogue where to store data some people were digitising things just to digitise or even organising those photos we talked about collaborating on projects as a region and there's some tension between people who would like carefully designed and managed and perfect products to be rolled out that we all work on which are quite liber intensive and people who took the completely opposite approach were like nah just dump everything out there the fun part will be cleaning all the data and putting it together so that's a minority voice but it's a loud voice and those are two perspectives that are definitely worth considering as we move forward now we were fortunate to have some IT people come to our event from Catalyst who you might see some people from that company running around here and I did ask them like how can we get more IT people and they also here's the tips they said IT people are very practically minded to problem solve they are fundamentally problem solvers so they would like a hackathon or some kind of problem that you bring to them and then they can have time to sit there and work through it with you and do a mini project and throw up something quick so that's what they're not so much interested in talking and that so they want to do something so I think looking forward to that as a portion of our sessions because I know that can also be off-putting for people who aren't technically minded so I think blending something more dynamic and like a hackathon or something with the traditional Barcan style would be really good So, like you're at a time Fisham, the IHM run to Olaitha Whare for Wellington so far I think like you've read us in front of us that's all quite time for but I have managed to organise some other local meet-ups and managed to try and connect with people just because my feeling is if I'm going to organise this I want to make sure that I'm putting something together and providing something that people actually want to come to I don't want people to hang out and talk rehash same conversations I'd much rather talk about something useful so a lot of the feedback I'd be getting for people are being speaking with there's a lot of interest from people within the glam sector and around kind of social media which I think it's a lot of them are working in museums and galleries and libraries and archives and they may not be part of those conversations they kind of want to feel like they want to be understanding of how social media works in the comms and how they can kind of help keep them to it because while they might be professional they want to be able to engage in their personal voices somehow and likewise it's been a really similar some conversations around how they can start their own conversations online to kind of get their expertise and their voices out there so I think a lot of it is the conversation I'm having with the glam sector I've very much around how we can use digital technology to connect and share our expertise and voices and experiences a few minutes I've had on my own they've been quite interesting as well because they don't actually most of the time we don't get IT or we're getting people to say I'm a public servant I'm not that surprised they're going to so they turn sort of whining about the government or mainly funding but it means they don't have those they haven't got the humanities conversation or IT conversations very much but other people generating things like born digital documents that go to archives we're producing this but we can't cross this problem so it's a whole kind of a different conversation than all the ones we're having here where are the people like oh crap where do we got that so it's kind of interesting that those conversations here are a bit different but we've got government lying over us so it makes sense I'm just going to look at how they draw their minds because they're the ones that we're working with it would be great to bring them into the conversation as early as possible or get in on their conversations at the very beginnings that are the best practice from the start rather than at the end as we've heard a few times would any of the other panel like to respond to some of the other things that you've all been saying just before I give you your next question you've been writing furiously it's great I just I really think that the way forward for these regional ambassador type things is to tap into that IT network because unlike Te Papa and Canterbury Auckland Museum most of the places that we work and that we are dealing with we have maybe an IT guy who's looking after our computers but really isn't doing digital stuff creative stuff with the material and although the idea is there and the will is there the technical know-how isn't that doesn't mean that those people don't exist in our towns and cities they're there we just have to tap in and connect with them I really notice that when I was at this Net Huey which was full of internet geeks their eyes were lighting up when we were talking about museum and heritage content and their brains were just whizzing with ideas and I think that's really the challenge that we need to pair those two sectors up because in the regions they're not paired up in our institutions I think that's especially true in the regions where they don't get to so for example in Wellington we have so many events that we've come to that someone might say well why would your regional forum look like so if anyone as you've said by nature it's going to be a different kind of forum but especially in those regions getting these smaller libraries that aren't as well supported connected with IT and connected with expertise this is a real critical role for regional groups and on that note the Digital New Zealand to help make a digital those kind of things have been we can get a lot of good feedback from regional groups because they don't have to go out and do that research themselves they can just take it and it's from a critical source so when those bigger centres provide that kind of support it's really important to try and engage Māori community we've just got someone on board at MTG as a Māori visitor engagement officer so that will be someone I can tap into next time but I didn't find any link to someone that I can provide just this time around we had a couple of Māori people wanting to know how digitise their own resources so that's another thing I'll change for next year I had the last year I had some Māori people coming to my paeia sessions and they actually said to me why are we not coming to Māori, why are we doing this in libraries or other things I haven't managed to solve that but that question is still lost this was a while ago and it wasn't anything to do with national digital form but the Nelson Museum sent our photographer and a number of staff up to local marae in Motueka and we just did a training session on photography and how to photograph documents and objects and what to do with those files and that was lovely, it was a really lovely day So just playing devil's advocate is there our job as regional ambassadors and in these hui to provide services or are we about connecting people and I just can't help but think you know we are as national services te pairangi we're connecting with them enough so yeah is it our job collectively to connect dots bring people together or provide training what do you think the key things are for your regions, what are they crying out for and what's not working We find that a lot of people get positive feedback that they can have the opportunity to have discussions with people in the same sector in recent problems so definitely that connection is useful but also often the skill shares in the afternoon are also really well attended and really valuable so my response is a little bit of both I think maybe for Northland it's just getting people to tell you something else that's there that they can access or can get them connecting again Just for Canterbury I think it's really important that we don't get Christchurch focused we need to remember that our region is bigger than just the city even though it's easy and I think the fact that the majority of the attendees for this who we recently were from Christchurch shows that we're willing to travel to these smaller locations so I think it's completely achievable Yeah just on that note one of the things that's really not working for us in Otago Southland is that I feel a little bit like this guy in that I'm trying to cover a region which is basically half the South Island all the way from the Waitaki River down to Stewart Island and that reaches into Central Otago across into New Zealand the whole works and it's somebody else talked about how I talked about the travel thing and you know for members in our region although it is so much easier to organise something in Dunedin it's a big ask particularly for the Southland and those sort of out in the Fjordlandtiano that sort of area to get all the way to Dunedin as a big ask and you're very limited as to what times of year you can organise things because you know you can never trust the snow not to come on the wrong day and Liansa the Gracals with the same problem and that we have Otago Southland region with Liansa as well and the number of times we've had events completely munted because half the people couldn't get there because of snow that we now only organise things sort of between November and May and then keep our fingers crossed so yeah I think we probably need to look at that whole regions thing and I did an evaluation after our forum and two things came through really strongly one was that they really appreciated the short ten minute bites of people sharing what they were doing within the region rather than having experts come in from outside and the second thing was was to break the region up because you know we had two people from Southland from Otago and they had because the evaluation went out afterwards they actually canvassed people around Southland and Otago and they came back to me and said that there was enough support there if there was a Southland region to keep people there but when it's in Dunedin you only get a couple of people I'm wondering as we move forward with this there's been a bit of momentum now with running these sessions in each of the regions if maybe we for some regions change or pivot a little bit and don't just focus so heavily on a single event in the Nelson Tasman region for the year but we just open it up to see what's going to work more and if it does mean that ambassadors are driving up to somewhere and spending half a day or doing whatever is going to work I don't know monthly meet-ups in different places perhaps the model of that one event over the year it's cool I love them but there could be other stuff that might be needed for some region Can we do it online? Get together I'm familiar with Sky something like an online conferencing thing and more regularly I had last year and this year the question came up why is it not something that's coming further up why is it always in Wellington for example the big conference would we not have so many in the conferences in different areas That's what a regional Yes but that's what So do we have a regional and then we have other skills there for you and your regions you guys can just decide how you do it and when you do it Do you guys know your regions better than? I think the more you add certain ideas and what is basically a volunteer we're an employee there's a role ready saying well the big X number of hours into something that's actually not a R you're impressed a lot Totally I think it was a bit more like every time I ran a session it was just people like us coming and I don't mean that I think they were more talking about bringing people in who can show and tell One of the cool things and I'm going to really try and push this is sharing the stream sessions from this conference and really pushing that and setting up movie nights and stuff where I'll try to do the best my favourite picks of the conference because that's a bad resource I had given out the link to the mdf YouTube stream so Maybe people need popcorn and ice cream as well to actually motivate them and watch it So before we move on to where to next are there any questions from anybody and you have to use the microphone please so then it's caught on Question for Meredith in particular the way your timing has fallen being able to do your regional ambassador thing three weeks after mdf conference are you looking at ways of incorporating apart from the videos themselves is there anything else from here that you are going to be looking at incorporating into what you're bringing back to the regional event I think I'll do a little a potted presentation of my main takeaways and then I'll pick probably some highlights and run them on a screen No, what do you have something in mind that I should do I'm just wondering because in some ways it's an advantage to have just come from this and all the resources it provides and I just wonder if it's a way if you do events kind of shortly after if that's a way of maybe spreading these ideas because the videos are great but as you know it's pretty daunting to be like a two-day conference and it's not like people have the time to then spend two days looking at the videos I'm quite curious to see how it's going to be actually and I do, I agree with you, I think it might actually be quite interesting having me just come from here and then still being hopefully enthusiastic and have it all in my head I'll let you guys know how it goes I had almost my group who came that I will report back from this and I actually had some questions and I found some answers so I will make a bit of a round email and put maybe some links and I'm just reporting back from this conference When we ran out of the earth we actually created a collaborative document which we added notes to and things during it and we had to open up so definitely adding some links and things to that reminding people to come and have a look Ashley where are we going next I was wondering should we share some cool stuff that's happened in the future or there may be more questions I just have one question probably start with a statement just getting the sense that there is a huge variety of needs and capabilities and ways that people want to address this program are you feeling do you feel like you have the flexibility from the board or from NDF to make some of those decisions whether any things that the board should be doing to make it more flexible do you need more money that sort of stuff What would be really useful is if there was a national registry of all glam better glam organisations so that we can better target our influence because at the moment it's just a matter of individual networks and there are big gaps in my business because I didn't get any of them in the western part so if it was nice and easy that I could just spam a whole lot of glam organisations and my creature would be great I think another another piece of support that the board could give and I'm not actually sure if they do this but is communicating with our superiors is just to let them know what we're doing in that maybe just will smooth it over a little bit more if we're having to do some other obscure unorthodox type behaviour in our normal work day that would be really helpful My comment is just going to be that I see the world more as facilitators and sorry I think a lot of it is because as well I'm just alluding a lot through the initiative forum so I don't so much want to be the person being like this is the content I'm going to present to you I'm interested in hearing what other people want so it's just more for me I'm happy to sit back and let people connect with me my name's on the website they can have me up that way so I'm more waiting I'm a hasty and plenty of people as well how can I lure you out on a Friday night Thursday for a drink to talk to people about this I don't want to be the one generating content to make these decisions I would rather people tell me what they want to hear or see what conversation is happening so it's just more it's more of a visibility thing of the conversations of us in our role being the people making sure people come together making sure everyone plays nicely in a way The question I've got relates to a couple of the comments earlier about the use of Skype type of meetings well I've used Skype in my office and quite frankly it's average performance depending on the number of users online we've flicked to go to a meeting we've got five out of three buildings one in Christchurch and one in Wellington five out of the driveway or inside the building then copper internal it's more successful but not perfect but would that be a medium or has anyone in the room got a better idea for engaging those that can't travel to some of these broad regions technologically to literally have the iPad stuck on the wall where they could be a picture of the Thunderbirds there's another service called a pier a pier or pier a pier like my pier to New York a pier.buying you had success with that it's good for up to date yeah we use zoom and right across Australia we sort of set up a camera to look at which university or each that goes on first and you can get up to 12 people by across Australia and it looks a lot smoother than it's done so a challenge to the board might be to investigate a technology that would be useful in the regions that's the challenge that the board has to face for itself as well go to meeting work 12 for us you've got another option there I think we're looking into a parent and do zoom and also just about communicating the meetings but communicating in general because we have to communicate with each other now we have to communicate with our stakeholders so certainly something the board is looking at but any idea just a question to the ambassadors talking about that technology enabled meetings that's really good for business type meetings but I'm getting the feeling from the reports from the ambassadors that one part of the value of those regional forums is actually the face to face meeting people from outside your usual kind of orbit so I think we're talking about two different things and plus not either I would agree with you the face to face and it's the time so you've driven out of your city to this place here and you've got several hours and no one's going to walk in and say we need you on the desk now aren't you spending too much time chatting actually setting aside the time I mean even everyone can watch the YouTube videos right in reality people don't have the time whereas if you set aside a time and a meet and then you do it and they will sometimes it's about setting aside the time finding the access Yes Matthew you can make an observation with the microphone it'll be my last observation I promise and it is just well first up thank you all for volunteering for this and I guess it is that aspect of the volunteering that is the big challenge and I hear that you know when you talk about Otago Southland that's a huge area and we did try to get a Southland rep and I think that's one of the things we have to as a community that spans the country be quite honest about we can only get someone on Otago and it only makes sense to run something in Dunedin or another Otago town we can't feel well you shouldn't feel guilty about not making it to Invercargill if Invercargill really wants to do something we want to support that but we can't just send someone off to Invercargill to be that community and I think we've got to you guys are volunteers you have every right to be realistic about what you can actually achieve I'd like to just ask a question because I'm from Museums Aotearoa and we've been running regional meetings over the last 4 or 5 years now and part of the value of that is those face-to-face meetings do you think there might be in some of the places where people are a little more thinly spread some value in say piggybacking NDF with Museums Aotearoa or regional liansa meetings or something like that I was particularly thinking you had library people but you lost the western bay you know I don't know I mean I think that's a brilliant idea but again the problem is communication and we don't always you know I'm in libraries I don't always get to know that Museums Aotearoa is coming to town until a couple of days beforehand when I happen to run into one of my colleagues or two or something when I took on the ambassador role I actually got myself renominated to the liansa committee which I managed to get off a couple of years ago so that I could at least get those channels of communication going but yeah I mean it is I think it's something that I have thought of it hasn't quite happened yet but to tag forum stuff on to liansa events and maybe museums out there or as well Do you want to say something again? I was just going to say because I met Ashley at Museums Australasia earlier in the year and that's how I got involved in this but through that conference as well I got in linked with the Amidstian Museum professionals I know that they were very keen to meet up after to do with the stuff or is hunger in those groups are really the kind of if you went to the museum to play at your conference and you haven't become an institutional forum why don't we have a meet up here because that way you're kind of seeing who's doing both themselves so I know there's interest in the people who attend these events to kind of like mix and match as they can so I think it's something that was just a matter of finding a way to take advantage as you're saying because it's just hard working out making sure that we do play nicely with each other I think what I think having that freedom for the regional ambassadors to sort of maybe move away a bit from just focusing on those bar camps or whatever we call them now and being able to have, yeah, tag on an hour at the end of Museums Aotearoa get together or something and just kind of play it by ear a bit more and have a bit more freedom with how we connect with our people in our regions and how they're getting together rather than focusing just purely on that one day they could very well be more opportunities that we're missing but how do we find out about those things I mean, I have to say I have signed up for so many things because nothing really comes into Northland if not I mean, I came onto this ambassador role by seeing it on the website maybe just call call lots of places and talk to people to know so if you can see the Indian newsletter it's often mentioned so it's often there, of course maybe we need a glam colour a couple of things to finish then one of the things I asked the panel to do was to get an emoji which Ryan has already shown so the little octopus so I chose this little smiley face because this is how I feel about these guys and also this little praising hands because when I got given the job I was like, oh my god, what have you done to me, Matthew? but these guys are incredible and do really amazing work in the regions and you are our ambassadors for MDF, so thank you so if we just want to finish by going down the line where to next so what exciting things are coming up for you guys and, yeah, 10 minutes and if you want to share your little emoji, do you want to go last minute? I don't know, what's exciting? I'll just share with you what I plan to do from here on in terms of being an ambassador we had quite a big topic that came up suggested for our regional digital forum which I thought was way too big a topic to try and squeeze into a 20 minute half an hour sort of breakout session and that was institutional change people wanted to talk about how you changed the thinking of your institution from analog to digital and instead of just having little pockets of people that are thinking digital and everybody else is still back there in the last century so I'm going to plan something around that I'm not quite sure how it's going to work yet but I'm planning something around that to get it have a meet-up of some sort to explore that and we'll probably also try and get a series of lunchtime in or bar meet-ups just to talk around issues that might come out of that and any other issues that come up Likewise, I think having those monthly type meet-ups just to get together and chat about stuff is something that I'll be looking at and that goes in with my little emoji gender neutral just getting together and chatting and sharing ideas I think is really important that face-to-face once you've got that face-to-face contact it's much easier to then trust the other person and call them and rely on their resources and one neat thing that's coming up in our region is quite a cool collaborative process that's in progress and it's dealing with top of the south maps website and it's a collaborative website with Tasman District Council and Nelson City Council and it's got GIS mapping data and it's got all the regional maps for planning and property and services and recreation type stuff but the Nelson City Libraries are currently digitising some historic maps that they've got and they're going to overlay them onto these modern maps and then once that sort of all happened the museum will also contribute their historic map collection as well to that website and will tag hopefully all photos and place names and stories to that already existing collaborative website that exists top of the south maps so I'm looking forward to that This guy's meant to look curious although I think he might actually look more like a stunned mother but I mean sometimes that happens too at the regional forum I am I have I experience curiosity about what people are doing and sometimes stunned mullits, nests around how much they have to battle sometimes they're an institution to do what really is what they want to do but also admiration I think we've even for people who aren't in this institution we've had a lady who's been coming on to our regional forums for four or five years and from the beginning to there to now she's developed her own business, her own industry of oral history and not for public but helping families of dying relatives record their life story and serves them with a really great product at the end of it What's in the future for us we are investigating ways that we as a smallish and medium sized public library can use best practice in the way we digitise our assets and in the way we wrap them up in good metadata so that they can fit into anything properly and that's a newish way of thinking for us and it's a little bit scary but it's also a little bit exciting because we hope that in years to come some of our analogue assets that are getting dismal to women will eventually be just this awesome record of our history that can fit into any kind of package or our own generated content or whatever so that's what we're at I sorry I will just try to this alien in the air often know that I just keep on trying to spend the word and see where we can connect people and maybe find somebody in the Whangarei Library who might help as an ambassador because I think we could do it but it wasn't just me, we probably could definitely cover bigger areas I was walking here this morning and got a text from Ashley saying what emoji do you want and I put them into the typo so I haven't got one but in terms of what's next to MTG I guess we're trying to with our customers really like to improve our social media and I've been in this position very long that's come from the conference so far with the theme of telling stories so I guess we want to do that better Thanks so I think Canterbury has a really strong community and to build on that momentum I don't know who we would made a list of possible workshop topics or meetups and the first one that we're going to run is going to be on the subject of open refine and it will probably be in February so once I have a firm date I'll put it in the newsletter also looking forward I'm going to need to find a new ambassador for Canterbury you may know that I've been elected to the board and I can't hold two positions at once so that's another challenge great so the one I picked was who because I actually wanted someone to pick it so I was like I'll take it but also because I just feel a bit shit for not having organised a regional hui so it seemed like an easy way to do it so going ahead I'm really keen to organise a regional hui in the new year just because I don't know if there's much time really to do it before the end of the year just to really kick off the new year going back together in the Wellington region and really rehashing some of the conversation we're having here and kicking off and I'm also really keen to get a regular monthly meet up in some capacity happening just to keep everyone thinking and chatting just because gifted in Wellington because there's a really rich network of diverse people here we can feed into any if in interesting ways so I think we might as well take advantage of that while I'm in the region so is there any other parting thoughts? Thank you Thank you guys It thanks to this massive crowd for coming I'm so glad you all came and while it's on permanent record I also want to thank all of that for the support for us and the work that the regional hui have done so let's do it Thank you for the respect Thanks very much