 I'll set Ruby. Good evening. I like to call the Monday, January 15th really regularly scheduled Berlin select board to order. Meeting to order with us tonight on my left is a flow Smith to her left is Joe stop to my right is Carl in the weasel I'm Brad town. Tour Nelson is with us on the zoom. Additions or changes the agenda tour. Have none. Public comment. Hearing none. Local cannabis control commission cultivators license. Okay. This is something new that for Carla. Last summer. We adopted a resolution establishing a local cannabis control. Commission under the guys of the state cannabis control board. So this is actually the first project coming to us. As this commission. And I think we've got Amelia and Dave joining us. So we're kind of like, you know, like said, we're kind of big thing. You're out ways through this as well. So please bear with us. But won't you. Take over and tell us what you've, what's your plan. Just a minute or a motion to come out of. We have to change. Out of the select board and into the cannabis control commission. So moved. All in favor. Okay, now we can go. Perfect. Yeah. Hi everybody, thanks for having us. My name is Amelia. This is my husband, David. We are currently in the process of getting our cannabis cultivation license through the cannabis control board. And we met with our licensing agent a couple of weeks ago and she let us know that Berlin. Has its own municipal board and that we should check in with you guys. And that will need your approval in order to continue forward with the licensing process. We're here to answer any questions you might have, let you know what the process looks like what we're going to be doing anything you might be curious about. What is the proper nation. It's up on Crosstown Road off Walker road. Yes. But can you just describe, give us an overview of what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah, totally. So we'll be cultivating cannabis for recreational use. We have gone through the permit process and zoning and all of that already with the town of Berlin. As far as like our fencing and our greenhouse and building goes. So it's all indoor all indoor cultivation. No, it'll be outdoor cultivation with a greenhouse so we'll have plants in a greenhouse and then plants around the greenhouse as well. What size like, I know the cannabis control board has different sizes in terms of your license where do you fall in there licensing. So we're a tier two outdoor cultivator. Okay. Any other questions out of curiosity are you having trouble have you got have you looked into insurance have you are you having I worked for the insurance department. So I know this is an issue I'm just curious how that how that is going or how that went if you've already. We're actually right in the beginning process of insurance. We just connected with a group last week. So we're working at our rates and coverage. The CCB requires minimum general liability insurance. So that's kind of what we're going for. Yeah, because I think it's harder to get isn't it harder to get it for outdoor cultivation that's what I've sort of heard. I think it depends on the outbuildings that you have so if you're, you know, building a barn or things like that and you need those to be insured. I think that's a much different process. I'll be interested to hear how that goes. What is your time frame you're looking at a million date. I'm looking to be licensed at the end of February. Fingers crossed that everything goes through smoothly. And then if we're licensed at the end of February will be ready to grow by mid April to May, and then we'll be harvesting at the end of September early October. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Any other questions for them. None for me. Okay. Well, I'm not here. Well, I'm not sure just what we're supposed to do. I guess we approve. Awesome. All right. Well, let's have a motion. Or do we can just ask one more question. What about security? Do you have any security concerns or do you have. Not so much concerns, but the CCB has laid out security requirements. Yeah. So, the ones that we've chosen to use are a property fence that goes around the entirety of the grove with a gate that locks, as well as security cameras that have a live feed. Oh, good. Okay. Good. Yep. You're on it. And have you discussed it with neighbors and what are their thoughts. You know, we. Well, yeah. So our cameras aren't like pointed at the neighbors, but we have met all of the properties neighbors. We've talked to them. You know, we've answered a lot of questions about cannabis because as you can understand, it's a little, it can be scary when something you don't understand moves into your neighborhood. So, you know, we've done a lot of educating, but now, you know, the neighborhood is really kind of accepted that we're doing this and they know that they can come to us with any questions they might have if like concerns or us. Good. How far is it from the, from the grow field to the nearest residents. Maybe like a half acre. Maybe a little more. Maybe more. Yeah. I mean, the distance from your fence line to your nearest neighbor, the dwelling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, probably about half an acre. About half an acre. Do you live on the property or no. No, we're leasing it from the property owners. Oh, okay. So they have to be named on the license as well. The CCB simply needs a copy of our signed police agreement. They don't actually have to be on the license. Okay. So, Tor, do we approve or do we just take in? How do we do this on this commission? Well, that I'm not really sure if we need to receive notification from the state first and approve that, or if we can approve it now. I don't know if you guys know any different. I would think it would come through the state, but I'm not certain myself. That's kind of what I think. I'm pretty sure the CCB will be reaching out to you to make sure that we've kind of had this meeting and that we're in good standing with you guys. But I'm in, I have a very good working relationship with the CCB. So that's also something I can look into. Okay, sure. Great. Thank you. Because that's an education for us. So that's our first time doing this. So we're kind of thinking about too. Okay. Well, thank you folks for coming. Thank you very much and good luck. As soon as you find out, let us know you can get a hold of Tor at the administrator's office. We'll do. Thank you both. Excellent. Thank you very much. Have a nice night. Have a good one. Motion to come out of cannabis commission. I think the motion to exit the cannabis commission. Discussion this evening. Second. And enter into the regularly scheduled select board meeting tonight. Second. All in favor. Motion carries. And so people want runners special event permit. So, yeah, I don't believe anybody's able to join us tonight. But the application. Was in your packet I sent out on Friday. The annual. Race, I recommend approval of the. Request. Okay. So what is the date of the race tour? April 13. I make the motion to approve the central Vermont runners special event for April 13. As presented to us. And it's the annual race. Second. All those in favor. Hi. Motion carries. Fiscal year. 2025 budget. When does this happen? When does this have to be signed for? Actually, it'd be the 29. Then that'll. Come into a couple of things later on. Down. So I sent you out the. Latest draft of the budget. The. Consumer price index for last year came in at 3.4%. And I figured in a 3%. Cost of living. And so. And so. And I figured in a 3%. Cost of living. Adjustment for the. Wages. And so looking from guidance from you if you want to stay with the 3%. Or if you want to go with the different amount. That's one thing to think about. So looking at the. You know, looking at the budget here. Like I said, figuring in the 3%. Now I did not increase the town administrators. Salary at all. Since. He's been vacant for this year. But that's, you know, another item you can, you can. Decide on. I took out the $500 wages for more of civil authority. We've not spent any money in that category for several years. Close to about 10 years now. And generally. That just deals with the. Tax grievances. Which. You know, we will, you know, we do have the reappraisal coming up. And we'll probably at that point have to put some money back in. But not looking at that for this year. Everything else. Office supplies looking at a, you know, small increase. Same with the, you know, the copier postage rates are going up this month. You know, telephone small increase going up there. Moving down to assessors. For the most part, looking at. Level funding, everything there small increase in the. Tax maps and the. Their software state licensing fees. Moving down to. Tom meeting and elections looking at an increase there. We will have. Three. Elections under this budget cycle. We will have the state primary in August. The presidential general. In November. Plus Tom meeting 2025. So we are budgeting. Increase there. Under insurance is looking at just general rate increases. Across the board there. They're here a question. No. Level funding for the most part the zoning. And DRB line items. Planning commission. Looking at a $10,000 increase in the consultants. I don't know if Carla, if you can. Shut in light on that. I can't. Okay. Is that you mean for it's budgeted for next year, 10,000 more. Correct for total 50,000. Yeah, I'm not sure what that's about. Okay. Kind of think what would be coming up that would. Cause we didn't get any of the. I don't think we didn't get the planning grant. I don't know. There's no match. And I'm looking to, I just sent the RFQ to Tom this afternoon. Looking to do the capital planning. Through our. Okay. Yeah, I don't know to her. I'd have to. Chat with Tom. Okay. Moving on. Looking at a. Other large increase in the recreation board. They've got several projects coming up. Increase from 3000 to 20,000. That's something I think we would want to look into a little bit more. Conservation commission came in with the request for 4,400. Level funding green up day. Putting money in for the economic development. Commission, they are looking with the consultant on the. Space utilization for the town hall. And a small increase in the mercy management committee. Some materials looking at a. Small increase there, there's some deferred maintenance. They would like to start working on. Next under county tax. Small increase. From what we heard from the, their budget committee. Ambulance service. Actually, I've not added north filled in yet. So that. Don't used to be worked into. Everything else is actual numbers. Same thing, level funding the. Generatorial services, supplies. Training copier. Most of those items here we are increasing the maintenance. Budget by 7,000. $1,000 increase in utilities. And keeping everything else. Level funded. Small increase in the CPA. Audit. Fund also with the payroll services. Everything else is level funded. Police department, we've already gone over their budget, but. Wages and stuff is based on. Union contract. And there's been no other changes in those areas since we last talked about it. Highways. You're going to be talked about last meeting. No changes in. In that area. The exception of the. Insurance figures, the workers comp and health insurance. Unemployment, all that stuff has been. Filled with them. Capital budget. Looking at 253,000 for a loader. 56,000 for a new vehicle for the police, which we paid for by ARPA. We've gotten the final numbers for the. Bond payments and interest. So adding everything together. We are looking at. 4.666 million dollar budget, which is a 14% increase. Over this year. And. To me, that is. Very steep and much more steep than. I want to go to the. You know, to the voters with now, you know, some of that is forced the. You know, we're looking at. Our match for the. Road damages from the, from the flood. But, you know, looking at what your thoughts are. And some of these other areas. Can I just ask what happens with carry over money. You know, like, I don't did the planning commission use its budget this year. I mean, in those circumstances, what happens with those funds? Does it get. Just in general carry over funds. Unless it is reserved at the end of the year. Then basically those, you know, those funds no longer become available. You know, for that, for that. Okay. What happens is. The money goes into the general fund into what I consider the rainy day fund. Okay. And then you can use. The money. The money recommends that you keep a certain percent of your budget. As, as. Rainy day money. And anything over that, of course, can be returned to the voters to buy down. Okay. That's what I was wondering. Okay. By down here. Budget. So Cali, how much do we have in that little fund? Yeah. I'm sure it's very good. The expenditures we've been making for the flood damage. But we usually carry about a half a million. Okay. So anything over that. We could turn around. Well, you can take and buy it down even more. I mean, you can go below the half million, but you know, historically we've been, we've been keeping it right around there. And I think the last couple of years has been bought down. It down to 300 million. Not 300,000. I mean. 300,000. Yeah. So. But. We'll have no budget session. I'm sure. Yeah. All this out. I definitely think we need to look at things a little more closely all the way around before. A final decision is made. And tour. Do we have information on the. You said that there's a fairly large increase. To the recreation commission. Did they provide great detail as to how they came to those figures. I would have to look again for that. Does it have anything to do with the projects or no, I don't know that it does. I should. They're looking at several different areas. They're looking at a grant. For the Darling Trail, which we're looking at. We're looking at, we're looking at a grant. For the Darling Trail, which will require a match. Yeah. Then they're also looking at a. Significant 90 some acres off. Find street midway. Yeah. You know, looking at a park. Park. I mean, I mean, I hate to say it, but they really are doing a lot. And I. You know, now that we're having joint projects. With the planning commission on the right commission, you know, I'm recognizing how much work they're doing and how much, how much value I think they're adding. So. I hate to say this on camera, but I would almost recommend giving the increase to them before the planning commission. I'm wondering if to our in cohesion. When we were talking about what the factors are for the planning commission going from the 10,000 to 50,000. You know, maybe there's some, cohesion there. Yeah. As to the reason why, but that would be beneficial to know. Yeah. I'll talk to Tom. Thank you. So the increase to the planning was going from 10 to 50 and not increasing it by 10,000. No, it was going from 40 to 50. Yeah. Oh, okay. 40 to 50. 40 to 50. Okay. So it was. Yeah. Increase by 10. Thank you. I misunderstood. So I would recommend a meeting. Next Monday. That works for everybody just to discuss the budget more detail and see if we can find some areas. And here. You know, the trim. Before we have to come up with the final number on the 29. Yeah. I can definitely next Monday, as long as it's six o'clock, but I'm not sure if we're going to be able to do that. I can definitely next Monday, as long as it's six o'clock or later, I wouldn't be able to do earlier. I could do it too. I'm open to each side. So tour. What was the increase as the budget stands now? 4.2. For. 14. What was that? 14. 14. Oh. 14.4. One, one, one, four percent. Okay. That's a lot. Okay. Thank you to her for all of the breakdown. Much appreciated. It is a good argument to take for the local options. Yeah. I really hope that passes. Okay. Anything else on the budget or. I don't have a listen, but he has any questions. Okay. Any questions for tour on this? Yeah. Okay. Okay. March. Town meeting, special appropriations. I believe that's going to be put off until. January 29th meeting. And the same with the next one, the. Yeah. Just done their special appropriations. Between Rachel and myself. We've reached out. the organization that we expected to submit a request. Brain Mountain Transit did not submit a petition, and they stated that they do not have the personnel to get the petition signed so they would not be putting in a request this year. I don't think they put one in last year either. That's correct. That's why they would need a petition this year. That's too bad. Anything else on any other for the next week? Does that mean they cut the service or does that have anything to do with the service? We just don't. We don't know yet. That's something they're going to have to be looking at. That would be unfortunate. They're staged in our town, just saying. We can't just put them on there even without the signatures. No. Okay. If there's nothing else on this, the private road naming, Ember Lane? So this is a, previously it was a private driveway that's now been expanded with additional lots to become a private road. They're off a junction road in the Colby cemetery area, and the E-911 board is now requiring this road to be named. Looking at the surrounding towns in our town and with the 9-1-1 board, it was recommended that it be called Ember Lane. And the people are all right with that, and that's their choice? Correct. Okay, a motion on this? So moved. Second. All those in favor of a private road naming of Ember Lane, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion carries. AOT. Question. Sure thing. When is there going to be a sign going up on that road for naming it? Well, I believe the private road, they have to get the sign made and a sign placed. Because it's not a town responsibility, but as to the timing of it, I'm not real sure. I would think probably in the spring. You mean this spring? Well, because if it's not real clear, it could be. Next couple springs down, Roe. I don't know if there's anything, is there anything in the zoning about that? I don't think so. Not that I can think of. I mean, is there anything with the state? No. Because it's a town road, so. Town. I don't know. Yeah, not aware either. Yeah, I don't know if there's anything on our ordinances either on what has to be signed. It's a good question, though. Yeah. Hmm. I mean, there's a huge section in the zoning about signs, but I don't think anybody has to do with road signs. Well, private road signs. Yeah, but I'll have to look. That's a road sign. We have enough regulations. That's what to do. Yeah, I bet. Hi, Chief. Good evening, Chief. So yeah, I'll take a look. Not a curiosity, but thank you. You should change this. To give him a deadline. Give him a deadline. Um. To me first. 90 days. What's that? Would say 90 days. Well, I would have, I wouldn't take and make them do it at the grounds froze, but I mean, I would say certainly by, uh, by April. Or I mean by May. Yeah. I will amend my motion to do that. You're a second. I'll second that. Is that a remarkable. Sorry, I got one of those nights. Still haven't gotten used to using it. In the, um, in the further discussion on this. If not those in favor. Hi. Motion carries. Um. 2024 mileage certification. This is the form we have to do each year. Uh, for the state, uh, it's the transportation, which are. Funding is based on, uh, we do not have any changes this year. Still looking at. 13.76 miles of class 2 roads. 36.94 miles of class 3 roads. Uh, which are funding is based on plus an additional. 7.49 miles of class 4 and 4.9 miles of legal trails. Uh, so like I said, there's no changes. Uh, from last year on this and recommend, um. Signing numbers. I make the motion to move forward forward with the AOT 2024 mileage certification, noting that to our explained, there's no changes. I'll second. Any further discussion. All those in favor. I. Those opposed motion carries. Uh, just so you know, um, now next year. Um, assuming, uh, we do. Complete the takeover of dodge farm road. Uh, then, you know, there will be a change next year. So just keep that in the back of your mind. Thank you. Okay. Um, select what annual report. Uh, I sent that draft. Out to you, uh. Earlier this afternoon, I don't know if you have a chance to look at it yet. Um, basically just an update from previous years. Any other comments on this? Hearing none, uh, planning commission appointment. So Carla has resigned from the planning commission. And we do have a. Person interested in joining the planning commission. She's been on earth and quite some time. Uh, Lauren rent Dylan, a resident of, uh, route 12. Uh, so I do recommend her approval or appointment to the planning commission. I moved to a point. Lauren to the planning commission. Your second. I'll second for discussion. You know, you know, Laura. She's attended quite a few of our meetings. I don't really know her well, but she's when, you know, she's participated and she's been active and. Okay. Tom's talk to her. Because I saw the paperwork, but I didn't see necessarily a letter of interest. I guess. Okay. Okay. I had some of that information that would be nice. Yeah, I know Tom's been talking to her for a while and anticipation of. And, you know, I'm going on his word and tours were basically, but she was, she did participate in several activities that we did. I can't remember what the issues were, but she, she did come to the meeting. So she's, you know, she pays attention. Excellent. Good news. The other discussion on this. No. Those in favor. Hi. Hi. Those opposed motion carries. Approval of licenses, permits, vouchers and applications. I make the motion to approve payable warrant 24 G one six with check number two, three, six, four, seven to two, three, six, eight, oh, in the amount of $76,898 and 83 cents. I also payroll warrant 24 dash 16 for payroll from December 31 2023 to January 13 2024 paid on January 17 of this year in the amount of $69,882 and 73 cents. And the Berlin volunteer fire department select selectments orders from August and September of 2023. Your second half. Second. All those in favor. Hi. Hi. Motion carries. I don't have the minutes in front of me here tour. What are the dates. We do have three sets. We have December 4 2023. This is the meeting where. And Karen joined us from Dairy hotels. We've got December 20 2023. This was a Wednesday. This was the meeting that was rescheduled from Monday, the 18th, due to flooding. And then lastly, we have a special meeting on December 26 2023. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Motion on these tour. I read, I read them and I think it was the first set. I did find a couple typos, but I didn't bring them. So now I can't remember what they are, but. Well, whatever. I don't have them in front of me. So I can't comment, but there was, I think it was only in the first set was found to typos. Do you want to make a motion on it and then present those typos in an email to tour. Sure. Sure. Yeah. So I'll move to approve the minutes of December 4 December 4. So we can we do them all together individually. Okay. December 4 with two corrections. I'll send it to her. Following this meeting in all second. So the mid the corrections are just typos. Yeah, there was one that it was like, yeah. Okay. Any other discussion. All those in favor. I, I. Motion carries. I'll make the motion to approve the December 20, 2023. Minutes has presented to us. I'll second. Those in favor. I. I wouldn't there for that one either. I was out of nowhere. And minutes for December 23rd. 2023. I'll make the motion to approve the December 20, 2023 minutes has presented to us. I'll make the motion to approve the December 20, 2023. Was it the 23rd tour, the 26. 26. Okay. 26. I'll make a motion to approve the Tuesday, December 26, 2023 minutes has presented to us this evening. I'll second. You. Any discussion. All those in favor. I motion carries. I'll make the motion to approve the December 20, 2023 minutes has presented to us on. So I'd like to see if we can get a couple things on. Maybe not this next agenda, because that's going to be through the budget. But as soon as we can. I'd like to have discussion on impact bees. As well as a possible. Okay, well, I just wanted to just see if we could go over where we stand in terms of the local options test if a tour can tell us the status of where we stand right now and have a slight discussion as a board, just so that we know where we where we stand on that at this time. Okay, the first public hearing will be on Monday, January 29th. The second public hearing will be on Monday, February 5th. The landing page on our town website went live today. Chelsea did a great job designing that and implementing that. So, we'll be adding to that in the next couple of days and weeks as we were close to the March vote. Thank you. That's really great. Are videos done for that? Are there videos being advertised? Yeah, there are videos being prepared for that. I think it's going to be a couple of weeks before the first one comes out. There's three or four that are being prepared and the scripts are written everything. I think those are going to be great when those come out. Wonderful. Thank you, Tour. And thank you to Chelsea as well. And we did a bunch of stuffers. Rachel and Chelsea put them together. So all the water bills that went out have stickers and stuff is on them. And then when sewer bills go out, they'll have the same thing. That's great. Carla. Well, and looking at the budget, I was just thinking how the planning commission has talked for a while about trying to create, like, you know, you know, like very mobile. You know, you can play it where many cities have downtown organizations that, you know, they may fundraise or do do events or do things like that. And I was just thinking it's something that we might want to think about. We've talked about it at the planning commission. I know we talked with the Center of Montchamber of Commerce about, I don't remember what the proposal was, but anyway, I just, it's something I'd like to, I'll explore it more with get the background on what we talked about. And then maybe we can have a discussion here about that because I think it's something that might benefit us. Wonderful. Cool. Is it yours? Tour? Anything? I don't have anything. Okay. I think we should take and revisit the special appropriations. Thank you. That would be great. You guys are so efficient. I nearly missed the whole thing. Thank you so much. We are the organizations that have submitted a request for funding this year and will appear on the ballot. Not much different from last year. Green Mountain Transit said they were unable to do their petition requirement for their funding. So they're not going to be on there. Same issue with Washington County Service Bureau and Vermont Center for Independent Living. But everybody else has submitted their requests and petitions if needed and are going to appear on the ballot. I just put the history from last year versus this year on the back side of the page if you're interested in seeing any differences. Do you know anything about these organizations? I do. How about the Washington County Service Bureau? What would you like to know? I know Washington County has a few homes in the area. And is it related to those homes? To be honest, I'm not really sure what their intent for the funding would be. Where they would place it. I don't have paperwork for them specifically. But if that was something we all were interested in, I could certainly research maybe the potential impact of them. Some of these organizations and how they affect maybe town of Berlin. Right. Probably speak to them because I don't have interactions with them in my former career before becoming a police officer. I work for the urgent program, which dealt with what use and the youth service bureau was a great partner to have. They provide counseling for youths and families. They provide housing. Sometimes alternative housing if kids aren't cutting it at home for some reason. They provide like after school activity, sometimes a place for kids to go. And it's not like town specific. Anybody in that county can reach out to the services. But I think that a family counseling and emergency housing respite housing is probably the big ones. They provide a lot of services for like. They do a lot of support for youth in DC at possibly more so were over the age of 14. So they do a lot of programming there too. So they do not believe that they'll be able to submit a petition. They were concerned that they didn't have the staffing available to go out and get signatures. So next year they're just looking to start a lot earlier probably in the summer trying to get that organized. Okay. You don't know what they were requesting. You know, but I don't think that their amount is very large. I want to say, maybe it would have been a thousand. Actually, in the past 500 straight across for the last. Almost 10 years. So they didn't request funding last year. And I know they want to in the future. So. Any other questions on special appropriations. The $17,757 is the total of the ones that have you received the request from the 517 and that includes the fire department funding as well. So yeah, sorry. Okay. Any questions for Rachel. Thank you very much for showing up. You're welcome. I also have a draft of the notice and warning for town meeting. I didn't know if you guys wanted to chat about that briefly as well. This obviously is a draft so it's not ready to be signed today. We'll need to finalize it. We'll need the budget amount and then the wording for the local options tax question. And if there are any other questions, guys would like to see on the ballot. So similar to last year we'll have town meeting a Saturday before so that'll be March 2nd shooting for the same start time 10 o'clock. We'll do the pre town meeting. So the information. Informational meeting followed immediately by the actual town meeting. So hopefully people will stick around and maybe the fire department would like to do lunch again macaroni and cheese ultimate goal. It was amazing. It was great. And hopefully the weather will be better and we'll have a better turnout. Any else from Rachel on this. Thank you for all the detail you provided. Absolutely. Thank you very much. I just wanted to make an appearance so you remember our work here. I was working for me some sort of a second session. No, thanks for the knowledge and consent. So who writes this line? How's everything going? Very well. Okay. I don't want to. That's criminal trust classes, disorderly conducts. Violation conditions. Yeah. Certain crimes are probably higher than they had 12 years. So this isn't a seasonal thing. This is just an increase across. Yes. And we're not the only. Right. Yeah. Two weeks ago, there was a couple of ambulances down at good Sam. That's a pretty regular. Yeah. I was driving by and just having to see him. It's like, I was kind of surprised. Well, it's not too surprising. They had a lot of people there with various. Not top fiscal condition. Sometimes they're suffering from mental health issues, which kind of required. I just surprised to see two ambulances though. And there was also an accident down there. Maybe last week. Three car accident. Was that the one with the car ended up on top of the two? Oh my God. I heard about that. Yes. We only have one ambulance at that one. I saw that. Attention. Attention. Get her. So we've been very busy. How's the retail. Yeah. Is very frustrated. You're seeing repeat customers. Same players over and over again. It seemed to be a lot of accountability. Our guys are kind of getting her doubt to be frank. Well, the amount of work involved in putting together a case. Let somebody tell theft only that person out. Doing another one that day or the next day. It seems kind of pointless role in that rock uphill. Over you on its way down. We're trying to push through hopefully things will change at something. I think we owe it to our emergency to respond regardless. Absolutely. I know a lot of jurisdictions have kind of given up and said it's not. More than $200 or something like that. That's the only time we respond. I'm not prepared to go there. Well, the only thing there is the way things are going. Everything will be $200 or more. You still have somebody in the academy. He's going into great February. Any specific questions for the chiefs? I'm just gonna sit here and ask him till he gets up. Okay. We can do that.