 Where does Trixen fit into this? You know, maybe we kind of pivot now just while we're talking about German stuff and German drums Where does Trixen fit in that because I mean these are just some Out there drums obviously Yeah, I mean Carl Heinz Weimar. He was from Hamburg. I mean so he's he's Western German and he started basically after the war with the drum and drum manufacturing and This was quite a very very successful company I mean sonar drums were Existed before the first world war. They were found in 1875 the factory was in eastern Germany. So When the second was world wars ended console auto link. He was Escaping the eastern German government and it was quite interesting story because The Gestapo came to his house to Arrest him and he could jump out of a window in the garden where his son Picked him up with a stolen ambulance and drove him into western Germany. Oh my god. So he came into Yeah different stations. He ended up in Wittgenstein and the UK with Wittgenstein helped him to find new factories. So Sonar started in Germany and I mean they had all the know-how from before the war and that was The number one in the sonar factory in eastern Germany that build the trover and tecton drums The second strong brand was Trixen found by Carl Heinz Weimar in Hamburg They had also other companies. There was in Kassel. That was Tromsad drums and I had in Bavaria Dairy or Rimmel drums. These were the main manufacturers after the second world war and Drix Drixen had quite good context to jazz drummers they had a I mean they're pictured with him and Gene Krupa and a lot of American drummers and so he had a lot of ideas and crazy ideas like doing the tail star and the speed fire drum kit and Yeah, pretty cool stuff. Yeah, and so people know that I'm sure people have seen him But maybe they don't know what brand they were just if someone's listening who's kind of a newer drummer These are the drums that they you know one side is like let's say the Side you the batter side that you're kicking is an 18 inch and it goes down to like a 14 or 16 And yeah, there was the tail star like they had a bass drum I mean they had a normal Rack tom, but I had a bass drum where the the kick side was 20 and and The bottom side was 16 and the same drum was used as a as a floor tom with a 16 better had and a 20 Resonant had I didn't know it was the same drum. Yeah, and they had very weird crocodile finishes in the lilac and Crazy colors pretty cool, but buddy rich played Tricks and drums at that time called Vox drums in America and he had an endorsement from 66 to 67 so they had a quite famous and Rossi Yeah, in buddy rich and Clyde stubblefield from and then I guess All the drummers because James Brown had many drummers, but I think they use the Vox Don't yeah. Yeah. Yeah, which is which is so neat So this I think is not true But I think I read in an article for drum magazine or one of them where when Carl Heinz Weimer Died I heard he wanted to be buried with his whole inventory of drums Or he destroyed all of his drums when he died like right before he died or something like that But oh, maybe someone told me that's not true Not really. I mean mean what happened? I mean why is tricks not around? I mean there were a big player at that time and very popular What happened is that at the end of the 60s? It was very very attractive to invest in in Ireland for some political tax reasons and so he made a fusion with an Irish piano factory called Rippon and they made a fusion and he brought all the production from Germany into Ireland and then basically Rippon went bankrupt and he lost everything and So probably this yeah killed him in the end