 Let's see Aaron. Is it E-R-I-M or A-A-R-O-M. A-A-R-O-M. A-A-R-O-M. Let's go. All right, Aaron. My name's Ty. Is there anything that you really believe is true? You want to talk about that for a while? Anything that you know you can't be wrong about? And do you believe in like a supernatural sense like karma, reincarnation, God? I do believe there's a God, you know, probably like a... Do you mind if I ask which God we're talking about? Christianity. Christianity? Christianity? That's a big umbrella. What Christianity are we talking about? Baptism. So Baptist? Southern Baptist? Free will. Free will Baptist? There's free will Baptist? That's what I was raised on. What's free will baptism? It's basically just like any other kind of baptism. So I grew up military. I've been everywhere from California all the way to Georgia. And we've been bouncing back and forth between black churches, white churches, Baptism, Methodists, you could name it. And every single church has its own belief, but it's very different from every other church. But they all believe that they have the same one that's general. So I guess what I mean like is, what is like some tenets of like the free will Baptist church? Gay is wrong. Transsexual is wrong. You must follow God. Like obviously you have to... You have to preach to him. You have to believe in him. No cursing. Okay. So it's like conservative Christian. Yeah. It's very conservative. Conservative. Okay. Aaron? How confident are you that this God is real? You're right. Sometimes I question it, but then I think to myself like, the beauty of this art can't just like happen on its own. I don't believe that. But how confident are you? Safe one with a scale from 0 to 100 where 0 is like, I'm all doubt, 100%. I'm all confident, 0 down. 85. 85? 85. Mind if I ask you a question, what would make you more confident? Like what would get you to like a 90%? Probably if I have like a one-on-one experience with God, like you've heard what other people have. Have you had that yet? No. One-on-one experience would make you go higher? Yeah. Like I've never had that experience like, hey, he spoke to me. He told me this. I've never had that experience. 85 is still pretty high. Yeah. What got you to the 85%? Probably how I was raised. Like seeing like all the good and like, my name was the main one that made us go to church. Oh, what's your Nana's name? Her name's Carolyn. Carolyn? Nice. Nice. But seeing like all the good she does and like, she's like the newsletter maker. She like goes to food drives. Okay. She does a lot of good stuff. Yeah. Okay. Would you say that's the main reason what got you to your 85%? If I'm just throwing this out. So for example, if you said, I really like chips. No, if you said chips are the best thing in the world. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm not going to challenge that. I haven't tried pretzels. Like that's what we're doing right now. Yeah. I'm wondering like if you're, and I'm not saying this case, but say your Nana wasn't as nice. Would that affect your confidence and God at all? It probably would. Really? Because she's like someone I look up to. She's the one who like raised me to believe that way. Okay. Okay. She's the one who raised me to be kind and not yell at people like these guys to respect other's beliefs. Okay. Is it possible that if you were raised by someone else who was very, very nice, but worshiped a different God, you would be believing in that God to an 85% confidence right now? I'd say could be possible, but... I've noticed once it's like I've moved out and I've been looking at things from this perspective, I still take it and I still bring it back to what I believed when I was younger. So at the same time, I believe that if I wasn't raised like that, I may believe that I believed in it. You might believe it, but you may not. Yeah, I may not. So maybe the way you raised isn't the reason that got you to this belief that you're right. Yeah. Like for example, you could have been raised in a belief that wasn't true, but had just as much confidence that it was, but because you're raised by someone else. Yeah. So like... Like even me being a Christian, I still like read about Judaism, I hear what you're saying. about like Muslims were... But if you could be raised by someone else or something that's not true based on how you were raised, maybe the raising... Yeah. Isn't a reliable way to get to 85% confidence? Yeah, come on. Like I do my own reading. I like do my own research. Personal research? Yeah, personal research. For sure. Like what? Read the Bible, obviously. Just to read up stories. Read about experiences people have with them, stuff like that. Are there people that read the Bible and come to a wrong conclusion of what God's nature is? Yes. Like the Bible you can interpret in different ways. Usually they interpret it in a negative way. Yeah. And there are people who are really confident that that's the God. Yeah. I'm wondering then, if I could do personal research and be wrong, is personal research a good way to be 85% confident about the God? It depends on your mindset, I feel. Like if you want him to be a kind God, you'll find the research. It's like just anything, like the media's twisted, you'll have that point of view for that. Yeah, the point of view of what you're looking at. Do you have the right mindset? I think I do. How do you know that? I don't know that. It's just my own belief. Is there a way that you can test it? I have no faith, to be honest. I think that's a fair answer. But if we can't test it and you're not sure if it's right or not, what's justifying your 85% confidence that it's true? It's my own faith, I guess. Is faith the foundation of this? Okay, okay. I think we're getting into the real stuff now. What do you mean by faith? Just my belief that there's someone out there watching over us. Is that how you define it? Yeah. That there's someone out specifically your God? Because I'm watching you. Yeah. You're outside. I know you don't mean me. Okay, so faith is someone's out there watching us? Yeah. Watching over us, caring for us. Watching us. And that's what's getting you to the 85% confidence that God's true. God's real. Yeah. I'm wondering, can people use faith to come to a God belief that's not a true God belief? I'd say so, yeah. Could I be a person from India and believe through faith that Vishnu exists? Because I believe that someone's out there watching me and that would be Vishnu. Yeah. But you would agree that Vishnu is real, right? No, but I still have respect for other's perspective. And they can believe whatever they want. I believe they have that right too. I believe what I want. They believe what they want. But whether or not it's true or not. Yeah. Would you say Vishnu is true because someone used faith to get to that conclusion? I'd say I'd all stem from one place along the way. There was one. Just like languages, people developed their own interests, their own cultures. They may have a different name for it maybe. They may have a different name for different God, but yeah. What if they argue, actually it's the Christians that got it wrong. We have the original and ours is the... They can argue all they want. That's their beliefs. I have my own. So how does someone who's in the middle determine who's actually right or not? They'll have to look at both sides, look at both points and just have their own conclusion. And they would have to use faith to get there? Yeah. But the issue is, it seems like I could have faith to believe in a... For example, how about this? Could someone have faith that there is no gods at all? They could, yeah. If someone could have faith that there's no gods whatsoever, and someone could have faith that there is a God, how do you tell who's right? There's no way to tell who's right. But they can't both be right, right? There's no way to tell who's right. But they're both using faith. What does that say about faith as a system to come to a true conclusion? It's more based on emotion. Is emotions a reliable way to get to a true conclusion? No, but we tend to rely on them. Is that a good way to reach a true conclusion, you said? Emotions? Oh my God. Yeah, I know that. Are emotions a good way to reach a true conclusion? Is it not? Are you justified at 85% confidence using emotions? I'm not, but I still feel that 85%. That's not a problem. You can definitely feel that way. But I'm wondering whether or not you're justified at that. Probably not. What would justify you at that 85% confidence? Probably having that one-on-one experience, or like some people die and they get resuscitated and if they have that experience, like they saw... Getting that one-to-one direct sight. Can I throw something at you? Pretend I got a coin. It's a quarter-thumb trip. I patch it. Can't see it in the sun. Oh, maybe I dropped it. No. Can we try flipping it again? Catch the back of my hand, right? Be heads of tails. And I don't know if it's heads of tails right now. Do you know if it's heads of tails right now? No. Okay. So I can go to Science and ask them, hey, flip a thousand coins, come back to me with a report. Let me know if this coin is heads of tails. And they come back and say it's 50-50. I'm like, that's not good. That's not good at all. So I need more evidence, right? And I could say, well, I was raised to believe that coins would always be heads up, right? Yeah. But that's not a good way to determine if it's coins. But I have a really nice aunt. She's like, yeah, but it doesn't really affect this coin, right? I could use faith to believe that the head's coin that the coin is heads, but it may not necessarily affect whether it's true. I might be right, but it's not a good way to get there. Not a reliable way. And I could use my emotions to get there, but again, it doesn't really affect it. I think the best way to figure that out is, you know, looking at it, that one-on-one experience. But until then, I don't know. Isn't just an option. It might be the best answer. Yeah, like you don't know. I don't know until you have better evidence. You don't know until you die. You don't know until you enter an afterlife, or you don't enter an afterlife. Until then, I wouldn't even argue that I'm 85% justified. I see you're cool. Yeah? Yeah. Aaron, I appreciate that talk. Thank you. Thank you very much. Did you enjoy the chat? I did. Cool. Thank you. Hey, do you want to have a chat? Yes, sir. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Thank you.