 It just sound like somebody just keep counting 20s over and over again. You got to get your mind work and attract this money. So before we do that, I got to ring the bell and let a little black market go. The black market is open. J.O.W.A.N., we got a very special guest in here with us today, all the way from your neck of the woods. Yeah. Good mark. Yes, sir. We putting on for the Denmark Tigers today. Come on, man. Y'all fucking up? Oh. Oh, she had him behind the sign. There you go. Cover him up. He ugly as fuck, ain't he? Is he still in the shot? All right, man. He's on the white. All right, well, welcome back to the black market. We're getting our logistics worked out today. Got a very special lady in here with us all the way from J.O.W.A.N.'s hometown. Come on. Denmark, Tennessee. Yes, sir. Denmark, Tennessee. None other than Ms. Daphne Darcel. Yes. She got a book out. It's a devotional and a journal. She got her own sign. She does. I got to look. I got to hold two, three pages of shit that you do. So why don't you pick one of these cameras and give yourself a brief introduction and let them know who they dealing with today. Okay. Well, my name is Dr. Daphne. I left the duck out. Yes. It's okay, it's okay. Dr. Daphne. I didn't know her. You didn't go to all this school and we didn't have to call you a doctor. I apologize, Doc. Well, I'm just a, you know, I'm a servant leader. I'm from Denmark, Tennessee, and even as a young child, I always, you know, just was a people's person, just little people, you know, grew up in church. And I always had a heart to just, you know, to care for others and just wanted to just serve and I'm a fixer, you know. I'm a mother, community leader, you know, philanthropist, published author. Just work hard every day and just help, you know, anyone that I can. I see you like to help. Because you've been going into the facilities and doing outreach and rehabilitation. Yes, yes. That's kind of like my heart. Because I'm saying that you've been working up the energy. Yeah, yeah. Like, I mean, a lot of people look at me and like, what? I used to be a warden in a prison. That's what I'm saying. Like, you better have a heart say. You be like, Jesus, and I'm so sweet. Like the damn shit! Well, you know, it might be another side, you know, to me when I have to be, but... I can't see you as being an authority figure though. It's there, trust me. It's there. It's there. But I was the warden more so with talk, trying to see what the problem was to make sure that everybody was getting the necessary things that they needed to get. You know, because I mean, it's not for us to judge them. They already, you know, in prison. We just need to make sure that they get the tools that they need to rehabilitate themselves, you know, because once they're get out, they're going to be our neighbors, you know, their kids going to be going to school with our kids. So we need to make sure that, you know, they get everything that they need. That's what's up. So yeah. How did you get started into that? Well, it's crazy how it started because I was an elementary school teacher, right? Exactly. And so... That's the same job doing, you think about it. It really is. It really is. But I started because I just was kind of bored over the summer. And so I had a friend that worked in the prison. And so that's kind of how I got started. They had a position that opened up and I was like a GED instructor. I started teaching within the prison system. And when I went in, I just kind of worked my way on up. I've been, you know, probably every position there is. I don't ever want to be bored enough to go work in prison. You know, just go to prison every day. What you know, it's crazy because growing up, I used to want to be a police officer. And so I was watching, even today, I still watch crime shows, investigator shows, like I can figure it out. And even inside of the prison, like, I could do that, you know. Like I was the person that, you know, I would still be very active because I would still go and do sales searches. I would still go to the past. I'd go to the chow house, sit down and talk. You know, I was very... Sit down and talk. I thought you just about to say, you know... No, no, no. I ain't going to eat. You know, maybe on my birthday, I'd make a cake and I might get a little corner piece and taste it or something, you know. But that's my heart. I had a lot of family members that, you know, cousins that did, you know, drugs, fed time, because they didn't mark, you know, a lot of... They didn't mark boys, you know. They, you know, they chose the, you know, the street life. And so I had a lot of family, so I... That's why I stayed on him and Craig so hard. So they didn't fall into them streets. Yeah. And so that's kind of how me and Pat, I know he was just with y'all in Memphis over the weekend. Man, you know Project Pat. Yes. My top five. Yes. Come on, man. Well, that's my brother, like, we go and serve together. So how we met is I was, you know, in the prison and he wanted to start coming inside the prison. So I got a friend that, like, connected us and we've been moving ever since. So you'd plug on all the prisons. You know. What was that job like for you? Being in the prison. Yeah. It was, I can say it was very rewarding. Yeah. You know, because even now I have seen several ladies that have gotten out and they'd be, one backer, like, I'd be like, look back. Like, who was that? You know, but it's rewarding to see them, you know, doing well. And actually, I was on a panel a few weeks ago. Actually Pat was on that panel as well. And we was actually on the panel with one of the previously incarcerated ladies was on the panel with us. And so when she told the story of the altercation, you know, that her and I had had of her wanting to, not like that, but, you know, she wanted me to, like, help her, you know, get a, I think it was like a room change or sale change or something. And she was high, you know, and I'm like, get yourself together, you know. And then I'll help you do whatever it is, you know. You need to do, but we need to work on some things. What if you need to move while you have? That might be the only time you're in the mood to pack your shit and go upstairs. You got a point, but you know, it's this. Man, I'm too happy right here. They're giving me high. That's why I need to move. That was a lot of inside stuff that you know, I won't share, but she, she knew exactly what, what she had to do. And she, she was denied, I think probation four times before she actually got out. But now she, she's out and she's doing well. Mm hmm. Yeah. I just cannot see it. I can't see it. Yeah. Can you imagine the one coming to yourself? Nice and cheerful. I will say, I will say. I'm trying to have the shape, the phone, the weed, the cigarettes. I know where it's at. I'm telling you, I know where it's at. I know all, I know all the spots. Don't we kind of run off in here like that? I know all the spots. So tell me about the book. Well, the book, Pretty Firecracker, it basically, I believe in journaling and that's something that I stress with the women and even me and anybody, you know, people locked up, but anybody, you know, that's the way to express yourself. That's the way to tell your story. That's the way to just open up. And so it, it kind of just started off as just journaling things that I was going through, just how to overcome. And so the title, Pretty Firecracker, it's basically, you know what it says like, you know how Firecracker kind of like just erupts. So it's like basically, you know, you see a pretty face and you just don't know what's inside. You know, and if you hold and keep all that stuff inside, what happens? It erupts. So it just talks about not keeping things inside and how to handle problems and situations before you get to that point where you feel like you can't do nothing but explode. So it's just basically saying you can never judge a book by its color. You never know what a person is going through inside. I like the format of the book because you got quotes. You got space for your own journaling. You got questions. Because I feel like that's very important like, because I would read stuff and then I might think and be like, wow, you know. So I thought like it was good to just where you can kind of reflect and write something in between the chapters and stuff like that. That's dope. Where is the book available? The book is available on Amazon, Amazon.com and also Barnes and Noble.com. You can just put it in Pretty Firecracker. I see you got a lot of scriptures in here. Do you have a favorite? Yes. Songs 46 and 10. Be still and know that I'm God. Like that is one that I live by. Because so many times we just go, go, go, go, go, go. And we never just take a minute to pause and just reflect on what we're doing in life, where we want to go in life, and just what's happening in general. So that taught me to just be still and just wait on God. When I don't know what way I'm going, what decision I need to make, or just what's next, I think I reflect and I just be still and wait on God. We have a very large audience of people who are watching the black market right now. What if somebody wanted to reach out to you and be part of the things that you have going on inside of the juvenile facilities, inside of the adult facility. How can they let you on and be a part of this movement that you're building? Okay, I'm glad you asked that. Well, I actually, a direct reflection of the book, I just found it, it's prettyfirecrackerfoundation.org. And it's recent, so my website is under construction. That's understandable. That's given back to those incarcerated, previously incarcerated, to help them across any type of barriers that's keeping them from moving ahead. It may be small things, it may be like an old bill that they need to pay, like an application fee, dressed for success, needing clothes to go for a job, interviewing things like that. But right now, if anybody wants to reach me, I can be reached at prettyfirecrackeratyahoo.com. I wanted to ask you this from somebody who's been in an authority position on the other side of that wall. What advice, what would you say to the family members of people who are incarcerated? How can they help them? How can they make that time easier for their loved ones? How can they help them cope? Some of this shit is new to some people. They don't know when to reach out or how to reach out or how to keep their communication open. One of the biggest things that I see even from being in a, from moving up all the way to where I was is just being available and not lying. People joke all the time about them putting their money on their books. And that's real. Like them being able to buy a drink or a soda or a pack of noodles, it's real and the things that people have to go through to get those things when they have nobody. People go in debt trying to just feed themselves. And just being available and if you say you're gonna do something, do it. If you can't do it, just say you can't do it because then they're not gonna be expecting it. You got people behind them who are dependent on you. Yeah, you got them dependent on you. You got them expecting or looking and see if you're gonna do this or do that. You tell them you're gonna show up for visitation and they dress ready, never show up. We have to deal with that on the back end because guess what? Then they're gonna be mad. Then they're gonna be upset. We had majority of our populations on the mental health caseload like over probably almost 80%. Not saying that I was on high dosages but they were on some type of medication. How do you feel as the person who has to deal with that? When you're knowing that it's people who don't need to be in jail, they really need to be in a facility and that falls back on you. It does, it does. And that will lead me to now in my prior position in what I'm doing now in my big, big position. I'm sorry, a big decision for me to even leave correction. I keep talking to you like you're still up there. Well, you're good. I've been like maybe a year removed but it was very stressful and it was a lot of things internally like on the executive level that people don't even know that's going on, right? So I just kind of was like let me just put myself out there a little bit just to see what's out there in what I'm in now. It actually I'm the Vice President of Domestic Violence Services for the YWCA of Nashville in Middle Tennessee. It just sounds so serious. It just sounds extreme. It's a serious issue like domestic violence. Because these women are here beating these men and there ain't nobody saying nothing. You know what? It goes vice versa. It does, it goes both ways and in this position we have the largest DV shelter in Tennessee. So it's a 65 bed shelter and so any woman that's fleeing domestic violence and need immediate shelter they can come to us. We give them, I mean they can come. YWCA, Nashville, Middle Tennessee we have a Tex hotline. We have a 1-800 hotline. I think I had my card in my pocket. I don't know it. Off top. The hotline number is 1-800-334-4628. But I'll say that to say I'm actually I've been working with the DA in Nashville and so we have to go through this extensive process of trying to get this new pilot diversion program and it's solely for when women come through or domestic violence victims. It could be men. When they come through and they see women they have gotten this charge because of a domestic violence situation whether it's trafficking whether it's they were sending out to prostitute whether they were trying to steal to eat because it's a financial barrier there. If they realize that it's due to domestic violence they then will divert them to me in my organization where we can it's almost like rehab them to prison because I don't know the exact percentage but I know 60 it has to be 60 at least 60% of those women have suffered traumatic experiences due to domestic violence and a lot of them have charges due to it so we're going to just follow them to see if we can rehabilitate them get them a job give them parents in classes you know sign them up for you know financial coaching just to all the way around the board things that they need to work on to make them a better person to empower them to let them know hey you know it's help out here that you can get and so out of probably almost 30 states that applied Nashville was number one so I'm proud about that. I got one more question when did you know it was time to transition to something else? I knew it was time to transition to something else when I started wearing it every day like once I went home the stress some of it was the administration like things that I had kind of no control of and it's like it was starting to I was just starting to wear it every day. Getting harder and harder to decompress and leave it at work. It was it was and it's a very you know stressful job and I would have people every day like you know you walk into prison you do this you do that and I'm like yeah but I've always been a strong believer in you respect them they'll respect you in all my years I have never had an incident where like I was scared I was threatening none of that even with me and I've never had you know anybody disrespect me or come at me the wrong way because I mean I feel like they know who to take that to you know they know the people that they can get they know the guards who they can get to you know bring stuff in and they know who to target and like I'm not the one there's another side I'm telling you what you know. I don't want to see that sad. I like this sad right here the Pretty Fire Cracker Doctor Daphne Darcelle drop your email one more time so they can. Pretty Fire Cracker at yahoo.com well yeah I also you know speak in a community I go I'll be in Memphis next week I'll be in Alabama I think the week after that but I'm a motivational speaker I speak in a community I just you know like to drop gems just to empower you know anyone out there you know like I work in domestic violence now I'm a DB survivor so I speak on that as well it's just I just serve you know I consider myself being a serving leader and just whatever God has for me you know I just live a life to try to walk in that well that's beautiful I know this your first time coming on the black market don't let it be the last go tell my boy project Pat that we really have him on the show. I sure will I sure will. That's it right there. And I got something for you too. What you got? Yeah I brought you a book stop playing. I did. You brought this with me? Yes I did and you know you look best I'm gonna get you in some good trouble now. Now when I'm in the war and I'm gonna be sitting there like this breathing my Barack Obama. Yeah so I really let him out. Let him out. Seriously let him out I like that thank you you helping me with my sophistication I really appreciate it. It's just a blessing that you all do this and let you know people like myself and others just be able to showcase the things that they do and get back to the community so thank you all for having me. Yeah I feel like it was important to have this kind of platform for us to have this many watchers and listeners and lookers. They need to be able to see us doing things in the community. I want those people that reach out to hit you and look at those organizations because we have a lot of people come through here throughout the year and it's just good to just be building a network of people who you know are doing things to push the culture forward very much so. And especially what you've been in Tennessee we've been in Tennessee all the time. I'm telling you I believe in network. Yeah I know Dr. Daphne you don't say Tell this to 85 self show we're down here and we need her to come up here and work right quick. I will be there and it's crazy that he's here we haven't seen each other since high school that's crazy that's crazy but yeah it's just a blessing. This guy Dr. Darcelle we appreciate you coming. Thank you.