 Buenos dias, bon dias, hello everyone and welcome to our webinar, Boosting Efficiency to Deliver Affordability, Security and Jobs in Latin America. I'm Edith Bayer and we're very happy to have you here with us today. Before we start, I'd just like to show a couple of housekeeping slides. So the webinar today has simultaneous interpretation between English, Spanish and Portuguese. So to select your preferred language, please just click on the interpretation button at the bottom of your screen and you can click the language you'd like to hear. If you're trilingual, you can just click off and you'll hear everything in the original. And please share your questions and comments with us in the chat box. You can enter your questions in whichever language you prefer. We should be able to handle them. And at the end of the panel discussion, there'll be a little bit of time for questions and answers and we'll take a few questions from the audience. So with that, I would like to pass the microphone over to Brian Motherway, head of energy efficiency at the International Energy Agency. Brian, the floor is yours. Thank you, Edith. And good morning, everyone. Buenos dias, bon dias. It's a pleasure to have you all with us today. We see many people joining us. So we're delighted to have so many friends and colleagues from across the Latin American region and of course beyond. We're delighted to be working on these issues with all of our friends and colleagues in Latin America. We say good morning to you all and we're looking forward to the discussion we're going to have today about really key issues in terms of how clean energy policies, particularly energy efficiency policies, can make people's lives better and how they are already making people's lives better and have been doing so for a long time. And Edith and her team have been studying this in more detail and you'll hear about that shortly as well as hearing from many key experts working in the region and I want to thank all of our speakers who are joining us here today for this discussion. Why are we looking at the social benefits of energy efficiency? First of all, we all know that it's important to continue to make the case for stronger energy efficiency policies. We know that sometimes in energy policy debates and even in clean energy policy debates, we tend to focus on supply side issues. We tend to focus on different types of investment about where we get our energy from and sometimes we neglect to focus on how energy is used in terms of making it more efficient, more affordable for people. And if we can remind policymakers and all stakeholders about the wider benefits of energy efficiency relating to job creation, relating to making energy more affordable, making people's lives more comfortable, more healthy, more productive, making industry more competitive, making energy systems more secure. All of these benefits can remind us why we need to keep this strong focus on energy efficiency and anyone who follows the IEA's work will know that we call energy efficiency the first fuel. We focus in all our analysis on how we need to lead with stronger action on energy efficiency and the discussion we're going to have today is going to remind us of why that's really important. Secondly though, it's also important to look at how policy design can actually maximize these benefits. They're not just incidental but better policy design will make sure that people benefit to the maximum from job creation, from energy bill reduction, from wealth enhancement, from economic development. Not just as a whole but in distributional terms as well so that we can learn from policymakers who have successfully designed policies that make sure that women benefit adequately, that more marginalized or poorer communities benefit and that there's a fair distribution of the outcomes as well of course as of the costs. So it's really important to analyze what has happened so that the new policies that are designed will be even better and they will bring the most benefit to people and particularly to the people who need it most. And it turns out as you'll see this morning that there really are huge benefits of energy efficiency. It really brings many multiple gains in terms of making people's lives better. It creates jobs, it creates local jobs, it creates skilled and less skilled jobs, it creates jobs in the construction sector, in retail, in manufacturing. It also makes energy bills lower, it really enhances the concept of access to energy so that it's access to affordable energy. Some more people can be cool in hot places, can be warm and cold places that can make their lives better, they can become more mobile, they can access better education and jobs and you'll see examples of all of these things. It takes good design and you'll hear that from colleagues speaking throughout this webinar that good design can maximize these benefits and it reminds us why we are doing these policies. These are not technical issues, these are social issues. We are designing policies to make people's lives better, to mitigate the worst effects of climate change, but also to enhance social and economic development, to eliminate poverty and inequality and energy efficiency has a key role to play across the board there. So there's lots to learn from the region, there's lots to learn within the region, we're going to learn from each other today, we're also going to some of our guests joining us from different parts of the world are going to see the great work going on in the region. But we're also, our job here at the IEA is to help countries, policymakers, individuals all around the world learn from each other and today's event is part of a series of events where we're focusing on some of the people and social aspects of clean energy and encouraging people right around the world to engage in these discussions, learn from each other and that's exactly what we are doing today. We will also be talking about some of the work that's coming up from the IEA in the region, we want to thank all of our partners in the region, we're working currently on some new market analysis so we can see exactly what's happening in terms of energy use devices, what are people buying, how are they using them, how is that affecting questions around affordability and access, all of these really important questions. And of course, many of you joining us today will also know that our colleagues in the World Energy Outlook team are currently producing a first special, first ever focused regional report World Energy Outlook looking at Latin America that will come out later in the year and of course we'll touch on all of these questions so today's discussion couldn't be more timely and pertinent in that regard. So I'm really looking forward to hearing all of the discussions. I want to thank all of you for joining us, particularly our speakers, but I particularly want to thank my colleagues Anna and Edith who will be looking after you throughout today's webinar and with that I wish the discussions well and hand back to you Edith, thank you. Thank you Brian for that introduction and I'm now going to switch to Spanish, sorry I don't speak Portuguese, but I'm going to introduce in Spanish, I'm Edith Bayer, I'm an analyst for International Energy Agency and well I'm going to present some of the main conclusions of the report that we just published a few weeks ago about energy efficiency to ensure security, affordability and jobs in the Latin American region. So the first thing I would like to mention about the report approach, this report approaches all these policy programs of energy efficiency in the region that has moved into the following subjects, these four topics noticing that energy efficiency includes other benefits. So the topics in which we join its affordability access and savings especially and the homes saving in public budgets both nationally and subnational and states and municipalities energy security in the short as a response to critical situation in the long-term in short term I will give an example and also said security in the long run eventually we will speak about the employment that we have and what green energy are creating but also thinking about the future careers and also about the jobs that are being developed starting from these days. Now, which will be the objectives of this analysis or the goals? First, we would like to strengthen the understanding of how energy efficient is supporting politic priorities as many of us know energy efficiency is a transversal topic that includes a number of topics and a number of important things not just energy but socially and environmental aspects. So what we wanted to do was to research within the region where is energy efficiency supporting this politic priorities and to then go to the second point right here to increase the communication of those experiences also through research we have developed some recommendation based on the experiences that we have seen and also their potentials that we notice that are here to develop. Some words about the process well this report is a bit different from others of the reports that the agency publishes that it does not represent the results of the modeling but it's like the results of this research of a number of dialogues with governments, ministries, agencies and some other stakeholders within the region to understand the results that the energy efficient is bringing both for public policies and a number of programs in the region. So then we based on official data for instance in Brazil and Mexico where we have this range of data which is quite complex that we based on the focus of composition that gives us some macro results to call it something and also we based on a number of reports about the improvements of the public policies and reports about projects and programs and also I would like to highlight this report based on these findings as we know we cannot present what has not been measured so right now we actually started the focus on what we have measured to show the benefits that have actually been accomplished that we can show as examples of how through energy efficiency we can improve some of the priorities politic priorities and some priorities in which we are based in this report in today's discussion. Now I will present some of the examples of this report but also I would like to explain that there's a number of more examples within the report and there's with bibliography in presented by country that shows all these examples through links with more information some of the examples that were shown within this report. So there's a lot more information within this publication and we invite you to visit it in our website. So on accessibility and access well the first example comes from Mexico which is a very interesting program which shows the co-relation between the over three decades of a minimum Mexican standards and during this time the increase of access to refrigerators and washing machines in the country that has increased 20% in this period of time and also we use that the average use has reduced 17%. So there's two messages which are relevant in here the first one is access sometimes when we talk about energy and efficiency we talk about savings in comparison to the level of use that we can see right now and in this example we also talk about like the first access for households that before didn't have every refrigerator or washing machines now they do have it this expense which is lower than what you would see with the minimum standards that promote a marketplace with electric household appliances and also we see that the reduction on this average use of electricity is shown thanks to this program such as equipment so there's a number of things that are really moving but we see a very relevant role of this minimum programs that promote more efficient devices and then we see the increase of access through these services and eventually we have some refrigerators because refrigeration is needed washing machines should have clean clothes so these are very important services and fundamental and also we see that there is this benefit in terms of the average years which is lower that also means lower bills to pay for the households the second example comes from Brazil from the energy efficiency program which is this program supported by distributor electric distribution companies in the country most of the programs that have been implemented and for sure we will listen more about this program in this discussion it has been accomplished in low income households this project has saved an important amount of energy 30 kilowatts per hour which represents about 50 percent of the mean use of electricity in the household with low income so it's an important reduction and the third example here is the one from Chile that has implemented these sub-site programs for the isolation of vulnerable existing households and the first thing that we want to mention here that we have to reach a very important number of families to benefit from this program we see over 33 families benefit from this 33,000 families benefited from this and then when I'm about to mention Brian Motherweight this program come to reach this minimal terminal standard which is through this standards new standards in household and as this is based on low income families and vulnerable families also it ensures that these families would benefit from the public policies that exist in the country to improve the household efficiency and also it returns in lower bills to pay for a heating and and cooling of spaces now when we talk about public budget also we see a number of examples of how energy efficiency programs have saved on public budget another example from Mexico where energy efficiency program in the federal public management has performed in the last 10 years an important saving through energy efficiency measurements in buildings and vehicle fleets this program exists for over a way over 10 years but this data comes from this analysis of the last 10 years another example which is different but also very interesting is this example of this municipality the city in Guadalupe in Brazil that has implemented has had this comprehensive approach seven actions among them has focused on public lighting and in hospitals solar water heating in social public households and the supply of municipal water and this saving which is important relevant of energy they recover the expenses in about five years so we have two examples of public transportation there's a number of examples in the region of changes towards electrification of some buses in the cities and well right here we have this example of Santiago de Chile where we see that energy cost for electric buses it has reduced 65 percent lower than diesel ones and it goes to a lower maintenance cost and in other way a different example the analysis which is also very interesting where four percent of the buses fleet has been replaced from diesel to electric which is very interesting this is an example of renting public support towards some alternatives low in carbon so the support in here it's equivalent to the subsidy for fuel that is paid for doing the entire lifespan of a diesel bus and now it's giving into a low carbon which is the electric buses Uruguay has a really large de-governized fleet now when we talk about energy security well you see this example from Brazil which is this example I would say the largest one right now in the region that has this energy crisis and heat raking very important to 2021 that needed some measurements along to the demand to take care of some more serious issues in the in the country and to avoid some more more expensive costs so two examples is a reduction of the use of energy in households mainly through some incentives and prices and information campaigns and also we see the leadership of this public sector federal buildings receive the mandate to reduce their use and they reduce the demand in 21% doing this key months of this crisis also it's quite important to see the energy efficiency policies in the context of energy security in the long run three examples one of the important of standards for electric devices in Brazil that it they expect to generate a very important saving from 2019 to 2030 in Uruguay we have an example programmatic which is the national program of lighting that saved about the 1% of the total electric use in the entire country so you can imagine that this represents a cost of generation and distribution and transmission of electricity which was avoided and lastly in Brazil the energy efficiency program that I've mentioned along to the Purcell program which is the other main program of energy efficiency in the country that both have saved over 12,000 gigawatt an hour of electricity on the last decade which represents 82% of the total energy efficient energy solar ultra-realtic energy in 2021 so this shows this energy benefit in terms of the electric system and lastly also we spoke about employment and careers or jobs and careers for the future so in here we can see that according to the report of the agency on jobs and globally the energy efficient represents almost 11 million of positions in Latin America the direct jobs related to energy efficient represent about 8% of the jobs in the energy sector which is a relevant amount also it's important to mention that most of these employment are based in the construction and manufacture industries there is very interesting report from the international employment agency now talking about these future careers and it's talking about the decarbonization that includes a strong component of energy efficiency which a potential of 50 million jobs in Latin America and the Caribbean by 2030 many of them in this main construction and manufacture industry or sectors and in here this is an area of research which is really relevant and also starting from this public policy standpoint of view which includes many opportunities some of them some of the areas right here but not all of them like the accreditation have been in green buildings like green Casa Verde that created new opportunities of employment energy management and the industry and buildings and also digital technologies that give us some more availability of information and a better possibility flexibilize demand and to build an electric system which is more flexible and more renewable lastly we have some recommendation I would say that this recommendation are wide but important first we acknowledge that there are some structures of public policies of governance to accelerate and to perform energy efficiency in a number of countries in the region so the recommendation is that there's this opportunity to strengthen the structures to accelerate and increase energy savings and also in the report there's some numbers about the potentials that we have found and exist to yet to be performed also it's important to fix ourselves in the opportunity to create some policies which are innovative and this could include some topics like like how to go beyond the gap into energy efficiency with the use of energy efficiency programs being this link between efficiency and accessibility affordability and also to develop some training programs which is a really important aspect if we talk about future careers and lastly less important we have this major opportunity to develop public policies that could actually perform the flexibility of the use of energy with the use of digital technologies that is a topic that the agency is working with a lot of detail and well like a conclusion which is quite important is how relevant data are to continue and continue the public policies and the programs and well many times this information is lacking we actually struggle in finding this information the employment for instance there this sector where they and there's a lot of information missing and this is an area where we see a lot of benefit to yet to develop and a little bit more space to enjoy this benefits on energy efficiency to communicate them better and to link them to other priorities of the governments in the region so with this thank you very much for your attention I we invite you to watch though to take a look to this report and then I'll give my word to Ana Le Pore which is I consulted for the agents international agency agency in Mexico and in Mexico and people that are way more important because they are actually the one that are accountable for this program that we presented this program so Ana please take the floor thank you very much for this introduction of it we are so humbled and thankful today to have three major experts of two countries that it either already mentioned as Brazil and why as well as the original which is like the inter-american development back I welcome and I thank everyone that are LinkedIn I welcome Carmen Silva Sanchez she is in charge of the energy efficiency program of the national energy agency in Brazil also we have Carolina Mena and she is the manager of energy efficiency of the ministry of industry and energy from Uruguay thank you very much Carol and also we have José Antonio Ortega which is a senior expert of energy efficiency in the inter-american development back thank you very much to the four of you for being here with us we have prepared some questions especially to go deeper into this that this showed about the relevance of how the governments and how the citizens can actually use energy efficiency for the transitions that we have in the region so I would like to be able to start with Carmen Carmen most welcome if it was mentioning about the energy efficiency programs is going to celebrate 20 years of implementation and we know that very soon they will publish this report of everything that they have accomplished in this two decades could you please share a beat which are like some of the main conclusions the contributions that you have as a result of this analysis and how this has contributed this program from the energy efficiency perspective yes of course good morning I will be speaking in Portuguese so I have well the main programs and so I'm so thankful to give some information of the energy efficiency program and so yes I also have the opportunity like the implementation of the program so some of the program that has happened we identify the need and the opportunity to make this assessment of what has happened in the last 20 years and then well for sure 20 years is quite a period right of commemoration if we remember from the implementation of the well over 5,000 project has been accomplished and we'll we have investments in the over 20 million and dollars so it's 604 million of reals and we have some energy results which are very significant many meaningful like the report of low income and other results right but the assessment being the more systematic assessment well to have this information and gathering of the information of the program to have this memoir to have the knowledges such that all this could be synthesized analyzed and presented providing some recommendation of perfection or improvement to every improvement we have this study but in fact we have to make this a more vast study and this opportunity will have the opportunity to watch the direct and indirect effects in which we are looking right now in the current phase of the project this project is being executed by the Tule Vargas institution a real very reputable institution with a major funding of GZE German agency so we are using this methodology which is consolidated that it's based in a document from the Brazilian federal government which is assessment of public policies practical guide of analysis so based on that methodology this was divided in three aspects actually four aspects because we have right now the last one which includes low income but the assessment allows us to make a vast and speculative assessment of the whole program assessment of the results and the assessment of the impact on the low income project that has a very significant participation and well this is actually happened the result on this participation well allows us that we based on evidence with this solid methodology which is the efficiency and perfection that is feasible for the BE to meet its goal at the end of the project then we pretend to assess or to test a logical model that would be identified for the program and it's practically an hypothesis which we work if the electric energy distribution invest in projects dedicated to energy efficiency then there will be some savings of the use of energy and the we will reduce the demand in the big period which are evidence that we already monitor since the beginning of the program but also those investments have into the prosecution of the energy efficiency program the sustainability for the market of energy efficiency and generation of new jobs and the reduction of greenhouse effect gases so these are indirect effects that we are putting together in the project that's why we want to show those results that have been foreseen for this year but yet in this to second semester we still have some important direct relevance like indicators have economical indicators that include the structures of the program we have some of the regions that received the program and equipments and energy indicators like some indirect effects as I mentioned in the hypothesis itself and the logical model we want to present the impact on the program and the executors companies and also with the companies given that the companies were generated and there's associated with their maintenance in their marketplace to the program to the equipment marketplace and everything that the program promotes within the growth of the air condition and equipment refrigerators etc and also the jobs marketplace and the qualification of these jobs especially in the executors companies that provide services to the executors and the distributors of energy to implement this project of the PE in the second semester then we have this agenda along with the international energy agency and we will disclose this result in a very wide manner for all of our audience so this is the main topic in our project of assessment of the program and while finishing with energy security well we have identified the PE had placed a major role on energy security in the gun grave in the short and long run in the short run well we have already identified that the PE has reduced 0.45 the use of energy used in Brazil based on data from 2017 for instance they used in the country in 2022 was 67 gigavats as an average that it's a representative a value of course to promote and ensure the service to the Brazilian marketplace and also with some actions we have some specific of PE that are for long run which are in case to process this and awareness programs and we look for some investments in the behavior of the consumer through awareness and education this is some of the roles of the PE in terms of energy security that's it thank you thank you very much kind of man actually right now we are even more eager to see the results of that report because indeed there's a number of things that you're mentioning where the countries around Latin America would like to have some more information of how the programs could be implemented so this energy efficiency topic well it's something crucial in the moment so I have right now some questions about to move on and if you okay well I will have a run of questions and then I will go back to ask you some things especially about the numbers of funding that was assigned to the program if I can I will go to Carolina oh la caro gracias good morning thank you good morning to everyone and good afternoon to those in which is afternoon for you and well thank you very much for your invitation to share the Uruguay experience and also to listen Brazil's experience which is so interesting and the shows everything that we have before us a number of countries yes thank you very much Carolina well and also we want to hear from you actually the Uruguay case is so interesting well all the cases that are within this report there's a lot of information with this work that has happened to some years some examples that from the last years with mother more recent the Uruguay case it's a world leader awesome biolic energy into the energy matrix so we wouldn't know what's the role that energy efficient has played to move forward in this energy transition in Uruguay yes great Ana as you know you might have heard in some other places where the guy shows its case in 2018 there was this situation in Uruguay which it was energy policy that was presented with like four strategic axes this axis were like the matrix but also was coming from the promotion of the energy efficiency and the access to energy in terms of as a little bit affordability and the entire population I'm sorry someone has there might maybe Matthew there you go thank you so as I was mentioning this policy of Uruguay energy policy that started in 2008 he has four strategic axes and within that well he combined the diversification of the energy matrix they start up the promotion of energy efficiency and also ensure the condition of access and security of energy in the entire country especially touching the lower income population so somehow this policy has this view of sustainable development of the country in terms of energy so a very important milestone happened in 2010 which this policy was approved by a multi-party commission that was represented by all the policy parties that had some representation in the parliament and this was very important for us because this turned into a state policy and looking for all the energy bets in the long run that are so important in this terms so right now we're 10 50 years ago from this policy and we can see the accomplishment the goals the results the results that you see Uruguay has been acknowledged by the high renewable participation a renewable energy participation in its matrix and with an electric matrix that by 2019 2020 went beyond the 20 percent of the renewable energies it was a process that somehow was accelerated and successful because the major incorporation was in a short term of 15 years in which we went from being an important importer of electric energy to be an exporter of electricity and also in terms of the primary matrix it reduced from 60 percent of fuel fuel oil of fuels energy I'm sorry to renewable ones and for us it's fuel fossils are important so it has a major impact in terms of economy and especially the sovereign energy is sovereign so some important milestones some of the results that we see in terms of the offer of energy have moved forward and also we have this access of demand of energy and then we have this energy efficiency focus how this process of incorporating renewable energy at the large scale has walked along with policies that promote energy efficiency for the final use of energy and this with two focuses one to optimize the investment generation that the country has to meet all this energy that has not been usable what don't have to generate it so that's the best scenario and then also this should ring from the user standpoint what we point is to have an improvement of the competitivity of the economic sectors and reduction of the energy use and the families and to look for us to find what which energy efficiency opportunities we have and then to analyze how we can move forward to substitute the use of fossil fuels in the final users so right there in energy efficiency one of the main milestones that also has to allow the continuity of the implementation of these policies was in 2009 the approval of the energy efficiency use of electricity this law declares the energy efficiency use of energy for the national security and while it went beyond the classic definition of energy efficiency we consider that all the projects that incorporate renewable energies to substitute the final use of fossil fuels or even and greed energy it's also considered energy efficiency projects and that is something probably particularly and it's time when it happened it was something innovative and it looks for this seeding between renewable energies and energy efficiency in general terms and other important things about this act establish the commandment from the executive power to elaborate this energy efficiency plan to establish some goals to accomplish year by year during the period of the plan and also complimentary it creates this trust and this allows us to have an annual budget that we can implement to promote energy efficiency policies year after year in the country so this is a major strength that allows us to have some sustainability for energy efficiency which sometimes are hard to demonstrate the effects and to promote them it's easier just to say open generating energy plan not showing how much energy is not being used due to energy efficiency so that yeah a report did not work that Brazil is doing a assessment of their plan is super important to contribute to all of us to move forward in the quantification of these savings that sometimes it's so hard to to get as of today we'll believe that we are in the new stage of energy transition we have this electric matrix which is renewable and the challenge that we have before us is to move forward in the decarbonization of the final years of energy right there the major bet is to go into the electrification of the transportation sector which it totally makes sense in this framework of renewable electric energy and also the development of green energy in the country as I was saying well for fossil fuels are imported in Uruguay and the transportation sector is 74 percent of the demand of fuels in the country that's why every effort that could be made in there is quite relevant in terms of the climate change commitments and that's why we have with a number of instruments specific for the sector and nevertheless we're where the electrification of transportation in Uruguay will take some time because the entire fleet it's quite complex so it's still we promote the more classic efficiency energy efficiency strategies like the most recent approvals that will allow us that all the fuel energy vehicles will be more efficiency at the means of the marketplace and then we will move forward on that more traditional means combined with new vets thank you very much Caronila so interesting really it's very interesting everything that you are doing and right there it's this part that the energy that is not being used well you don't have to generate it and a very relevant topic that Godman also mentioned and now these are investment you optimize some investments that you don't have to use in the short term and these are investments like smarter well planned to how to improve your electric system and in this electrification of the transportation system well I believe that Latin America there's several labs and therefore there will be a number of experiences that we can share among ourselves because Chile is really advanced at this topic Colombia the same Mexico already started so I believe that we have a lot of material right now that our boss Brian is listening we have a lot of material for even more reports even that we can share thank you very much Caronila now we'll go to José Antonio or José Antonio Artega it's always here with us and we're so honored for to have you here José Antonio the inter-american development back it has a maker experience not just in energy topics but also energy efficiency topics and one of the main aspects that it was mentioning its presentation was a creation of jobs the jobs from today and the future ones so in terms of jobs as we saw this at the report the inter-american development back IDB made this report about jobs in the electric sector in Latin America so this information is quite relevant because there's some jobs by gender by women the profile of the position jobs in the future as well as the level of professionalization that is currently available and also the one that will be needed so José Antonio if you could please share a bit more about how to rethink about the energy efficiency in this process of emerging sectors that Carolina and Carmen mentioned they both thank you very much quite a privilege to be able to join with the internationally energy agency and well first to congratulate and to thank for this report promoting energy efficiency and contributing to accessibility and affordability of jobs I believe that it's a great report and actually one of the major contributions of energy efficiency and the entire thing like emerging industry like renewable energies energy efficiency re-nitrogen electromobility it's very relevant so in this study it's highlighted that every million dollars at the international level because we first gather the information internationally and then through service that are applied to associations and businesses that inter related to all these topics energy efficiency agreed in Bolivia, Chile and Uruguay we have something more specific of this three countries and that reflects somehow what is happening in Latin America but the this report the most relevant thing is the that every million dollars we generate about 30-36 jobs in clean energies in this countries emerging countries I remember last weeks there was this panel in Mexico with Andrew McLean which is the commission aid of green energy in California and the U.S. and he was saying that the ESCOS energy service companies ESCOS that have this they offer this services it's about the same volume of business that the distributor companies in California that in total this ESCOS employ 43,000 people so this provides an idea of the size now we're talking that an industry that is related to energy efficiency represents about the same business that they're distributing companies in Canada in the reports is highlighted in just 2018 it was generated 46,000 employees in the U.S. for every million dollars we were generated 20 jobs it's another very important data strength it's not just isolated statistic there's this systematic analysis in different parts of the world that brings us to this kind of conclusions now it's important to mention that for Latin America Bolivia, Chile, Uruguay in total I will also mention this when inclusion in total of 27 percent of the jobs are in charge of women in Argentina is 23 percent and in this emerging industry for these three countries it's about 14 percent and well specifically in energy efficiency the average for these three countries 26 percent of the labor force is our women the most the largest case is Bolivia with 56 percent of women in Chile is 16 percent in Uruguay 35 percent so this gives us an idea that it's not just jobs but also a general inclusion that it's a really relevant topic as well also I would like to highlight that in general for the average level for every million dollars and in these three countries six jobs are generated in generation and other 16 emerging industry I mean this it creates the number of jobs the generation and I insist this is the result of the direct survey with this very well elaborated questionnaire with all this systematized information and this gives a clear information of how this has been improving the energy emerging of the energy efficiency and energy created from the generation of energy and I believe that this is quite encouraging and we're working very closely with the IDB we to design some schemes for the creation or training of human resources because we also found the need of professionalize those people that are pretend to add to this field of emerging industry so it's important we're working with superior institutions and superior education institution and what we expect to have the development of some curriculum for higher levels of education and of course that there has been some improvements but still need to reinforce this sector and something very relevant that I would like to highlight that I did was mentioning some of the major topics is the cold benefits that are not clearly mentioned in the report but it's very they're very relevant before the panel started I was mentioning that right now I'm in La Paz, Bolivia and the preparation of this energy efficiency for public lighting and so the agency it's shown how in the case of Mexico LED lighting was like went from being 3% in 2012 to be 62% in 2021 and what other kind of benefits the public lighting has well and some studies performed by the bank itself for instance in the case of Chile in the implementation and in summertime when we have two hours more of natural light it has been reduced the felons felon is in 30% in the case of Mexico according to some municipality section the lighting the improvements in lighting have reduced 7% of major felonies and even 50% of burglaries so they concur that when you use LED lights that increase the lighting criminality has reduced 30% so that's an idea of the cool benefits another idea that also strength the energy efficiency projects it was mentioned by the public lighting is that there's this survey that applies in Mexico with the statistic industry institute and one of the major problems that the citizen face the problems of what they complain the most in Mexico a population over 20 80% are holes on the on the road and 62% complain about the lighting I mean we have some major areas of opportunity and still a lot to contribute so thank you very much for this opportunity to participate in this webinar thank you very much for something you actually bring a number of topics how they're all interconnected because we're talking about replacing programs of inefficient technologies and then we end up talking about the reduction of burglaries how people feel more safe and that's actually what we want to bring in here to be able to provide more information not just in Latin America of course but that this multiple benefits are seen in the energy efficiency of working on that thank you very much for Antonio well I will go back I will give a bit a small round for the three of you and Garmin I would like to go back to this topic of PE I mean it's so interesting this approach of this program that a lot of these resources that you have already mentioned over 320 million dollars are addressed to low income houses for energy efficiency I mean which are the main reasons that motivate this kind of programs incentivize this kind of programs that go into that sector which have been like the main benefits that you have gotten in this sector in the household so if you could please share somehow you know we have a lot to say but please make it brief if you get assistance with that Garmin please yes if I synthesize I would like just to destroy something there 320 million dollars per year these are the energy efficiency program applications I mean there are different typologies there's different profiles of low income is one of the profiles but there are others like residential educational commerce industry public buildings that's a public service of course but low income users are the major beneficiaries of energy efficiency PE this energy efficient program the efficiency the low income programs they will we try to reduce the the use of energy and to increase the energy visual in the low income households and well this includes the users with preferred rates and the country use the social rates which is like a residential rate with some reduction and also the PE involves residents or the users that are based in some communities of low income so we have residential users of low income which are benefit but also communities that we're taking care of like philanthropic associations and neighborhoods some daycare centers hospitals which are located in this low income communities usually they have they struggle in their pay of their builds of energy so we have these programs like access the stealing of energy that also will to reduce this measurements of energy they this topic of criminology I mean to take care of the use and to take care of this outdated equipment which is a reality that this low income users experience on every day basis and while this low income it's supports are based on the law provided by PE and the applications afterwards so starting in 2005 these law established that it was a minimum allocation for these resources for low income in 2005 there was the destination of 50% of the total resources for PE for low income and we have some changes along the time in 2010 this increased 60% this allocation and even in 2015 it was established the obligatory of 60% to be able to reach up to 80% in 2016 it was established the minimum obligation and there was this to top limit of 80% to also being able to benefit other kinds of consumers and along time we also see that there's the regional diversity which is major because the country is so big so the program it has been very capitalized that established all 63 electric energy distributor companies in the country so there's some regions with a lot of need and demand of those actions but there are other places and municipalities even states where their social topic is not that urgent and the mandatory illegally mandatory aspect wasn't being taken care of because there was not that profile of use so out of 2016 these act establishes these demands but the regulations have now established some governance minimum governance regulations that continue to benefit all these users one of the regulations that is still in force establishes that at least 50% of the investments of the PE has to be allocated to two kinds of use with more participation of the energy market the distributors have one of the classes which are like the residential users and this includes the low income foresee again ensuring that those users will have some resources for investments of energy efficiency another part of the regulation that distributors have some autonomy for the application after 60 the remaining 60% and it verifies some of the distributors that's in care of the region where some of the they have allocated that both resources for that those kind of funding so we are benefiting both the distributors that are looking to solve some commercial problems like stealing death no payment and also to benefit the users with some actions of energy efficiency that in general is or the substitution of lamps refrigerators ACs and also educating actions participation awareness and looking for the energy efficiency associations in the rechange of the devices represents as well some of the changes for this users to to increase an awareness to promote the good results and this has been happening from 2018 to 2020 and the reduction of views has been one of the typologies that I received the most of the funds and we do have this evidence in the monitoring that we perform and also some other studies that we're mentioning that are in motion on the kind of impact so one implementation will allow to have like a more plausible cause and also we can analyze how they can have in the future to see what's the performance of the public policies of the BE which is a mechanism election of the kind of projects and to analyze how the distributors define and which are the typologies so we are in this analysis stage so we can say that this is a combination of the regulations of governance that promote the benefit of like a more representative of the Brazilian society as well as some other sector programs or even local ones and then these related topics to businesses of the energy distributor companies that are allocated to the attention of their subscribers and trying to keep a income level of those consumers so in a BE we see like a solution we have a benefit of the energy in the marketplace and also increasing the marketplace the energy market so that was it thank you very much Carmen well every time you make us to be more anxious to look for this report in this to take it some implementation my dear Carolina you could also I would be able to ask you during this presentation she mentioned this public lighting program that was a promote like in two different stages and that was giving that you came to is saving an important percentage of the energy use and as I understand the coverage was up to 80% of the household 70 something or percent 70% so I would like to if you could please let me know what were like the incentives to promote this program I mean the saving speak by themselves but before implementing it the savings were not sure so I don't know if you would like to share some information because we know that before it was implemented maybe you can share some of these incentives that boost this program well first of all I would like to give a little bit of context this plan this was this plan of changing of luminaries and at the level of households it was the first edition in 2008 back then was I was mentioning we're in this stage when we were defining the energy policies and all these years without major investments so the energy sector was very stressed and also we noticed that it was a moment of growth so we didn't have much hydraulic power so that's why we're in this moment of energy crisis in which we even have to go for saving plans in public institutions in shopping centers even incentivating the population the reduction of use with this saving approach to avoid some shortages outages so thank God we didn't have to really apply these outages with all these saving plans that were implemented so with this context it was that in 2008 we implemented from Ute the state company the implementation of the reach of lamps back then it was to give two compact fluorescent lamps by household such that the users would give two incandescent bulbs so it was back then when the technology was emerging it was new the population was not aware of that so that was the scheme that was implemented and yes as it was mentioning results were great about 75 percent of the household made this change for this lamps that was promoting and it estimated that that reduction of the demand of energy at the level of the households and the country and also the impact about the reduction of the demand peak I mean those were the assessments that were made in its time to implement the plan then in 2011-2012 there was a new addition after five years where the first delivery of this reach change of lamps it was estimated that those lamps were ending their useful life shelf so we had a delivery plan it was not a reach change I mean if I don't have an incandescent bulb at home because it was the low technologies that were permeated in the marketplace we didn't want to go to the user would go and buy a new lamp but that's why we gave up and it was a really high rate of acquisitions of these saving lamps I believe that it's also important that the plan the co-benefits of the energy efficiency back then in 2012 with the new technologies in the marketplace also helped us to make sensitive this population it was a national campaign where it was making more sensitive the awareness of the technology the views and in parallel from the ministry were also working in the technical standardization and the labeling of low use so it was like everything round the top like the context in which it was given it was not positive so all this concurred and well it was something that we have been promoting this kind of analysis of cost and benefit related to the different instruments of energy efficiency that we defined and promoted and as I said this year it was approved the regulation of the labeling of light vehicles this public consultancy of labeling of lead lamps and in both cases it was made gathering information from the marketplace the importers some of the devices that are imported in Uruguay and well making the assessment of which will be their impact in the marketplace at the level of the price of the technologies and the impact of the reduction of the use both at the level of final use and the country I believe that that's a really good practice that help us to support the policies that we're implementing and well we we're clear that we don't do this just for the labeling but also for other programs for the energy efficiency support in which we're trying always to have a counterpart from the user to own the project that we're implemented the benefits that it's producing and that way also to make more dynamic the public investment as was it was mentioning and then to promote the marketplace related to this topics of course thank you thank you very much Carolina and it was mostly like this crisis moment when it also promotes us to think in a different manner like outside of the box and it's regrettable that only then it's when we do it but well we move forward I also would like to remind the audience we will make we will ask one more question to I was Antonia and then we can go to a Q&A brief session unfortunately time is about to run out but if you would like to start asking your questions on the chat please write them down and then I will go to this question to Jose Antonio so I believe for Santoni that we're talking of a number of topics right here but in your interventions we're about to closing all this mixture but one topic that for sure the agency and with the commissions that we have created it's this part that these energy transitions are centered on the people in this case energy efficient only would be for a specific sector but for everyone and no one left out so we believe that we have all this experience in this programs free change of devices or inefficient devices and not the program by itself because we can learn about the formula but it's how do we do such that the energy efficiency programs what they do is to provide growth and comfort experience because actually we have this program that change this devices that are inefficient to have a program that the device is not more expensive to even make it more inexpensive then we have more access that even more modernization in our households to increase comfort and savings we also know that you have a major experience in Mexico so what is it that we should not leave on the side to take a benefit of all these social benefits to use all this I mean to use all these reads and all that I mean what kind of advice well thank you I believe that the interventions fundamentally in energy efficiency are justified to understand what is missing in the marketplace so the intention is to transform the market for the devices and to have these more efficient devices it's efficient I mean it's not enough as Carmen said but it comes along with awareness with the consciousness of these devices so the awareness is relevant so how do we make that the standardization of the devices will turn into the purchase of these devices because more efficient devices initially have a more expensive cost so the two major things is the major program it was not for the residential but the industrial sector at the end of the 90s it was a program to incentivize the sale high efficiency electric engines before the initial less than 3% was high efficiency there was this vicious circle the companies did not purchase them because they were not after the services and the manufacturers and distributors would not sell them because no one was demanding them so from a loan with a bank there was this program when they incentivated there was this discount and the purchase of the equipment and after a few years the 100% of the device equipment was high efficiency in Mexico and to go back to it was established the standard for high efficiency in engines a very clear example it went the other way around it came in in effect this regulation to stop using incandescent bulbs to use more efficient bulbs in back then it was compact fluorescent lamps the difference in the price from the incandescent with a compact fluorescent in a large marketplace it was four times so the low income population was unable to really make that change so what we did was this program when it was delivered for free 83 million lamps it was a really great business for the government because the recovery was with the reduction of the subsidy and a third program was the suspension of electro domestic devices like air conditioners and was established back then was this program that allowed to give this funding to the families that didn't have commercial funding and when they had it it was in this condition that was really extreme to call it the least so we have this created this liquid warranty and credit lines to take care of what the user would not be paying and also the electric building was used for the charging of the device and this saving allowed to pay for the funding and with this was a lot and accomplished that low income families was able to have access to new equipment so this programs would allow is to increase the more efficient programs and in high scale this turns into a reduced price so even though the use of the households had increased in a very important manner the electric bill as an average and the energy use has reduced because now they have access to more efficient devices to more adequate prices so this is the phenomenon that creates thank you thank you very much José Antonio well we have been over twice the report so we're really moving forward and more and more information I really thank the three of you if I can abuse I have a few questions from the audience I would like to ask them they're not addressed to anyone in particular so if any of you three would like to mention please go ahead and in here there's a very interesting question because it's something that do you believe that when we have an electricity rate which is lower for low income households could this incentivize to a higher use of energy this would not be like a too a blissful someone would like to mention about this well can I comment on it yes of course can and please so I would like to thank to this question because I believe that this is something very rational with the government that I made some of the low income users in our program I would like to make clear how that social rate in a quick manner was established I mean this rate it's something that benefits the low income users this social rate which is called as I mean it was established by this institution by this law starting in 2012 that provides some discount to low income users to classify as low income it's needed to meet some requirements like a registry of the user in a to measure I mean so this low income fee is part of this social strategies from the Brazilian government that includes not just the energy but another social programs like education some supports some income supports that are related with this registry national and some plans of ongoing social assistance but the social rate in Brazil is made such that there is no that incentive to the use it's a rate with aggressive with aggressive support so if they if the use increases then the support is reduced to avoid this unwanted situation of an excessive use of energy but well a lot more information could be provided in the national energy used for rates in Brazil okay thank you very much Carmen now José Antonio would like to add something I believe that he it's very clear the report that about nine percent of the income in Latin America of the address to the payment of their energy and in the poor it's 24 so there has to be some policies that promote more accessibility to the services that we have for electric services but I believe that the formula is not reducing the rates but it's more like with energy efficiency measurements it's the more effective way to use it and the most cost effective to mitigate climate change among the many benefits that we have mentioned here thank you José Antonio Caro Carolina well if I would add in the case of Uruguay there has been some commercial discount programs for low income households in which what it's trying to look is to get some conditions for them to apply some security and to regulate electric sector promoting the regularization of the use and then this is a strategy that looks that supplements a number of things some of the commercial discounts with this logic of increasing fares trying to look for appropriate uses but also to bring this along with a more efficient technologies and also making more sensitive how the energy is used at the household which is another key element to promote to ensure any efficient use and that they can face their rate at the end of the month well thank you another question this is more like specific for brian for the agency in the energy efficient topic which are the following topics with social aspects I don't know if you would like to give brief comments on this brian thank you excuse me thank you very much and thanks it's been great to listen to all of the interventions here really interesting as I said I think there's a lot of new research coming out all the time we've heard of much of it today and new reporting and new data but exactly how energy efficiency programs are supporting all of these people in various ways in terms of making energy more affordable making people's lives more comfortable promoting job creation so we plan to continue to collect this data but we particularly want to put a focus on not just showing the benefits but helping governments understand what is the design features that will help the policies maximize these benefits and also maximize the good distribution of these benefits so we're hoping that today is part of a conversation where we can learn from these wonderful stories we're hearing about how governments can factor in maximizing the benefits for the people who needed most into their design of future energy efficiency policies and that's something we plan to continue and I should mention as well it's going to be a major part of the discussion upcoming global conference on energy efficiency which is taking place in France on the 7th and 8th of June so colleagues can find more information about that conference on our website and we will be discussing that topic in more detail then thank you Anna Thank you very much Brian I believe that time is run out so I would like just to finish if maybe we can conclude this amazing and very tasty panel that we have got today with just one word that could be relevant for each of you which would be the most relevant message of today that you would like to give to the audience one or two words if each of you could please help us Carmen could you please start with you yes we can well I would like to say that maybe one or two words would be affordability to provide access to everyone and depending on their capacities and with governability so I believe that that would be it thank you very much Carmen Carolina maybe it could be opportunities right I mean how energy efficiency allows us to generate a number of opportunities in terms of accessibility but also about sustainable development in general terms and job creation I mean all the co-benefits that are related to energy efficiency and how to convert this into opportunities the challenges that we have before us yes opportunities thank you José Antonio results I believe that it's quite clear how the results of these agencies it has been shown some results and how these results are convenient how we can go from good intentions to good investments and even better results I really good good intentions and better investments well thank you very much to everyone and I will give the floor to you to give the last messages there were some questions if we would record this session but I will leave at the end I really thank three of you Carmen Carolina José Antonio Brian and Edith and all the audience that have been with us Edith I'll give the floor back to you thank you all thank you so much Anna and thanks to everybody who's stuck around I see we still have almost everybody here despite having gone over time I think that the concluding words access opportunities results are really good words to leave us with and I would just add that this report is not meant to be the end there was a process going into the report a lot of dialogue and we'd like this to continue so as Brian said we're continuing to work on these issues and we're continuing to work in the region particularly as we build up to the publication of this special report so we will be in touch and just to say thank you to everyone for your comments for your participation to our speakers and wishing you a very nice rest of your day thank you