 So we see three typical digital problems, a big bang approach, right? Let's just do this whole big thing and then get it over with, right? Misalignment and miscommunication, which are not unique to a digital transformation. So what we do is we simplify the approach with a simple digital formula, right? We're trying to help people be more average, sorry, we're trying to help people be more agile and leveraging lean scale technology investments that provide better, more secure user experiences, while minimizing those full life cycle costs, including maintenance and operations, which have to be part of any sort of total cost calculation.