 Hello. Good afternoon and good morning everyone. Welcome. Welcome to this second series of the learning series of the GPC on improving protection analysis. Today's session is around how we can strengthen human rights and legal analysis. My name is Samaneh Hassanli. I am the legal officer with the Global Protection Cluster here based in Geneva and today I have with me two very special guests, Saeed Alamatun from OHCHR and also Brennan Webert from DRC. Thank you Saeed and Brennan for joining us and welcome everybody. We hope to have this session as interactive as possible so we have prepared a presentation that will take you through and then after the presentation we open the session for questions and answers. I would appreciate if everybody could please if you haven't already done so introduce yourselves in the chat in the interest of time. I think we have quite a number of audience so we won't do the table but if you can please introduce yourselves, your name, your role, the agency that you work in and your location in the chat so we can get to know each other. And if you have a question after the presentation if your internet allows please do open your camera so we can see you and get to know you better. Thank you so much. So without further ado I would share the presentation. Can you see the screen? Yes we can see. Perfect thank you. So today's session as I mentioned is on strengthening human rights and legal analysis. The objective of this session is to better ground protection analysis in human rights and legal frameworks. We all know that human rights is at the core of humanitarian action so we hope that with the tools that we introduced to you today and with the presentation we will be able to provide you with some you know tools to better ground your protection analysis in human rights and legal frameworks. We hope that through this analysis we can mute yourself. Thank you. Thank you. We hope that through this this analysis will contribute to improved products including HNOs, HRPs, your protection analysis updates and other key documents which ultimately would improve and enhance advocacy at country, regional and global levels. Today's session is particularly focused on a tool that we would say would introduce kindly. This tool was developed jointly by OHCHR and the Global Protection Cluster and we will take you through the matrix. Basically I will hand over to Saeed to take you through but just to let you know the reason why we thought that this would be helpful. You are quite familiar with the protection analysis framework, the 15 risks. There's been a lot of emphasis and tools and trainings to be able to you know harmonize the approach so this matrix actually links the 15 risks protection risks to human rights framework to the different instruments and the objective is basically to improve a shared language because sometimes the protection risk might not necessarily talk the same language as human rights and also to give the tools and mechanisms, the various human rights mechanisms to advocate and the channels for you to advocate at different levels. With that introduction I will hand over to Saeed who has been at the forefront of you know the development of this tool. Saeed over to you please, thank you. Thank you very much Samane for introducing me and thanks for the Global Protection and Cluster for convening this webinar which comes among a series of learning series on information and analysis. So from my side I'll give just an overview first of what doing by human rights and generally what entails as a concept and then we move into presenting the human rights matrix and also we will show you some good examples from current protection analysis updates that have been developed by some of the national protection clusters and also we have a few messages to you that you can take forward. So basically as Samane mentioned the effort was basically to how we can ensure that we speak the same language we understand protection risks in a meaningful way and also in a rights-based way. So basically human rights as a definition these are legal instruments they are universal they guarantee the protection of the human rights of individuals and groups so we speak whether civil political rights economic social culture rights or collective rights and it's against the actions and omissions that interferes with the fundamental freedoms entitlements and human dignity so whether actions or emissions or certain parties they need to fulfill certain entitlements but they fail to do so so whether it's actions or omissions that results in violations of freedoms and other entitlements. Human rights is the minimum that everybody should enjoy regardless of any political system or economic system that exists in any country it's inherent in the each person's human dignity it cannot be denied to any person or a group except with a due process and in specific situations we also consider human rights and as interrelated and interdependent a violation of one right could result in a violation of a series of rights if we look at the right to identity or right to documentation any violation of such right could lead to a series of rights whether to right to assistance or to right to be recognized as displaced or as a refugee or etc etc so all these rights they reinforce each other and they are interdependent and the realization of one right could also lead to the realization of several rights if you have the right to information you you can access information as you need then you are able to make informed decisions and and you are able to make informed choices. I'll move now to the next slides and and we need to understand human rights in terms of who is a duty better and who is a right holder and with comes to the states they are the ones that they are concerned by the human rights frameworks and they have certain duties to fulfill when it comes to their obligations and these obligations comes from if you know of those instruments whether universal declaration of human rights or other covenants and conventions or other less legally binding documents guiding principles or declarations or guidelines so these commitments have have three layers and and both reinforce each other and and if we come to the first two types respect and protect we call them immediate obligations which means the states have direct obligations as part of their international obligations and with regard to the first one the states has to respect those rights which means refraining from interfering with the enjoyment of the rights and this is whether it's the states the state agents whether it's police officer law enforcement a teacher or a doctor or any of the states uh line ministries etc that may have interfered with this right the other immediate obligation is also to prevent others whether we we would call them non-state actors but that could include a range of other actors whether it is an organized group a gang private businesses and and and many many many other actors even private individuals individuals acting on their capacity and and you come and encounter those particular protection risks for example if we speak about thefts for example private individuals are responsible how we see that in the terms of human rights framework what obligations lie with the state when we analyze this particular protection risk and also a number of of of those human rights violations are codified for example if we speak about exorbitant trafficking in many countries they are criminalized but there might be in other contexts they are not criminalized so in when we do our human rights analysis we need to consider not only international frameworks but also the national frameworks that seeks to enforce those international commitments and to what extent international laws confirm with the commitments of international obligations of the state and the last one is about fulfilling those rights when it comes to measures and here we speak more about policies legislations and programs and and when you look at your protection egg model and you look about environment building then I think this particular fulfillment fits into the the the fulfillment side so just to give you an example forced eviction it falls under the three of them so the states needs to when they do forced eviction they need to respect the law through certain procedures judicial procedures to give all the remedies whether this eviction is taking place in line with the law for certain so again they have the respect to do that when it comes to protecting if if the eviction is happening by private individuals they have also certain measures that they need to put in place to protect those affected and when it comes to fulfillment they need to ensure that the law is there to protect those individuals so we speak about three layers respect protect and fulfill and and when it comes to progressive realization I mean that applies a lot into the framework of economic social cultural rights because capacities and resources and also budgets and budgetary allocations all of that may play into the factor but but at least when it comes to each single right the state needs to do the minimum and to make available the minimum that's I think the basic foundation of a human rights let's move to the next slide and and in this slide I'll I'll prefer to go into straight to the matrix and so we can present those particular elements and and we will go through the excel spreadsheet and we will look into the protection risk of discrimination and and we present in the matrix through that Samana moment is just a moment so I'm bringing it up thank you no problem so are you seeing it yeah I can see it but we need to zoom in into discrimination yeah so basically when it comes to the protection risk discrimination you have you seen an umbrella of protection risks that includes discrimination, dignitization and denial of assistance and resources etc but let's go to the first one when it comes to discrimination so basically when it comes to discrimination not everything could be counted as discrimination but it has to meet a definition that comes from the human rights framework I can't see very well the but I'll use my excel sheet so basically I can read in a in a better way so basically when it comes to discrimination so for example you need I mean it basically in every when we go into each protectionist definition it automatically identifies when you go through the dashboard the related human rights violations whether they are direct violations of this particular protection risk or other related human rights so for example when it comes to discrimination it can be a discrimination could lead also to a range of human rights violations so what are the standards to establish a violation when it comes to discrimination so basically discrimination is a violation which involves a distinction execution restriction or preference based on the basis of race age color which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition enjoyment or exercise on an equal footing with others and and when the treatment is not reasonably and objectively justified or fails to pursue a legitimate aim here the the language is basically if you want if the state or others discriminate this kind of discrimination it has to be informed and justified and and it has to fail to pursue a legitimate aim also a violation when it comes to discrimination takes place if a state official or institution fails to exercise due diligence in investigating allegations of discrimination and and this is basically when it comes to the right to the to be protected or the obligation of the state to protect people from discrimination especially when it comes by non-state actors or when the state fails to sanction and provide an effective remedy for discrimination when it occurs so basically the human rights tell us what what how we define discrimination and what are the cases and situations where the state could be violating this particular right so it kind of codifies what is the conduct and what are the the elements of the obligations of the state when it comes to discrimination so it's not only about the state cannot discriminate but also it cannot allow others including non-state actors to discriminate but also the the state is in violation of discrimination if it's also fails to sanction and provide an effective remedy and also the law tells us for example there's a public emergency in the states that threatens the life of the nation and existence the states may take measures that are getting from the obligations under ICPR provided they are not discriminatory so in times of emergency if the state puts in place certain rules for example when it comes freedom of expression freedom of association any such derogations of those rights should not be discriminatory and also if you look into within this box it also mentions other other types of violations for example if if the government fails to adapt or enforce a legislation or when it fails to adapt all appropriate immediate and effective measures to prevent, diminish, and eliminate the conditions attitudes and prejudices which cause or perpetuates discrimination so and here we look more if even if the state fails to take those fulfillment measures to ensure that the policies and and the states also should work to influence attitudes through education and and also and also if the government or the state fails to take or implement concrete temporary special or specific measures aimed at realizing the de facto substantive equality so this is just an example of of what the law says but what we need to consider the law is telling us or giving us an approach where lies the the responsibility of the state when it comes to discrimination so when you tackle any of those particular protection risks and you see certain groups are by the rights are being violated you need to consider why this particular group perhaps you need to look into some root causes what drives this particular group as vulnerable is it because poverty is it because illiteracy is it because and and perhaps the only way to ensure equality is for the state to take certain appropriate measures or to pick in some temporary arrangements to ensure this particular group enjoys this particular right and to to protect them from this discrimination so if you go into the metrics on the right then you can see the relevant articles whether it's from the declaration of human rights the covenant on civil political rights the the covenant on the racial discrimination and discriminations across all human rights instruments when it comes to discrimination against women people with disabilities migrants people that belong to national ethnic religious minorities there is also ILO the international labour organization discrimination convention so this basically this is your reference so if if you think one day to and and I think that that could identify certain venues so when when you speak about those particular protection risks if it's about lack of knowledge or education then we we need in a way to ensure that we understand war why this kind of safeguards for protection come from they come from these codes and codified instruments of international law and when when when you look at those tools then we need to consider the ratification and the accession of the states to this particular instrument because in international law when a country exceeds or ratifies an instrument they may put some reservations on particular articles I'll give you within the slides like there's an online tool you can access you can look on any particular state what is the status of the ratification and what kind of reservations they have made when it comes to each particular convention or treaty the second the following one is about those particular mechanisms and across the metrics you will not only see the binding instruments so we included not only the conventions and the treaties but also included other kinds of soft law whether it's guiding principles guidelines as well as also there are some kind of codes or or non-binding treaties we also aim to include some some examples from regional instruments but it's not across the the matrix but when it comes to this particular matrix I want you to consider that this is a work in progress we we we worked on this matrix over a period of three to six months but we need to update and populate as we go because human rights law is an evolving law every year hundreds of recommendations and findings are coming out from the work of the human rights treaty bodies from the special reporters from the universal periodic review and we need to to catch up and we will help you to do that as as OSHR in the future so after we go finish from the mechanisms we move into the other related rights as I mentioned all rights are interrelated and interdependent so for example if we look at domestic violence and discrimination against women that could lead to women being unable to access a range of rights when it comes to inheritance housing and other property access to resources humanitarian assistance so these particular rights they are there and and I think this applies so when it comes to to to a large number of the protection risks you can say it's it applies to multiple rights one right could violate or lead to a series and a range of violations if we go right to the next one we included some examples of from findings from treaty bodies some mandated human rights council reports when it comes to what what findings they have made when it comes to certain particular groups whether it be at women children displaced people minorities so for example if we just look into this example it talks about this positive discrimination so for example special measures taken for the sole purpose of securing adequate advancement of certain groups or individuals requiring such of protection as may be necessary shall not be deemed discrimination so when we talk about when when a state takes measures to protect certain group in order to ensure they are able to advance and also to develop such measures must be taken of limited duration and must ease when the discrimination has been addressed and also for example there were examples of hate speech in one country and basically the recommendation on the state was to take steps to address xenophobic attitudes and behaviors towards non-citizens we talk about migrants or or other people hate speech and racial violence and counter any tendency to target stigmatized stereotype or to profile people based on the race or nationality or ethnic origin so this is across the matrix you will see those particular examples as I mentioned this is a work in progress we will aim to update as much regularly as possible in order to to also equip you with all up-to-date information and analysis that comes from treaty bodies and other mechanisms if we can go back now to the presentation shall we move to the next slide can I just come in sorry maybe I can also just show the dashboard to colleagues I think it would be good because there's a lot of effort gone as Said mentioned into this however there is also a dashboard that I think makes it a bit easier to navigate through what Said has presented the reason that we decided to present the excel sheet today is because that we realize that the matrix doesn't have the last column but basically this is how currently the and the matrix the dashboard looks like here it's easier to navigate you've got the 15 protection risks that I think all of the colleagues are very familiar with because it's been presented numerously through their protection analytical framework so you can for instance Said was discussing about discrimination today so you check discrimination and it brings up the various blocks that Said took you through so and you can navigate this easy so we are it is already available and thanks to Francesco he has also included the link to this dashboard and we are as Said said it's a work in progress we are just updating a few more information but it's already available so for colleagues to use but thank you Said with that I'll go back to the presentation I just wanted to make sure that the colleagues are aware that we also have a dashboard online we'll skip this one yes I'll this right space protection analysis this equation comes from the human rights monitoring manual of OACH but just to amplify what I was speaking through in the matrix the additional element to your protection risk equation is basically the commitment part and this commitment part basically comes from the obligations to to protect to respect and protect and fulfill and and basically I don't want to present the threat and vulnerability and capacity but perhaps you're already aware of that so if we can skip those threat vulnerability capacity but just to speak when it comes to commitment a commitment is about the political will of the state to to address and also to stop a violation so for example any violation that happens the state has to ensure that this as we looked into the the discrimination example the state has first to sanction and and and to ensure those who are responsible are are are accounting for for their actions especially when it comes to private actors or other non-state actors and also when state agents are doing the violation they are also accounting and which means accountability the other thing is to ensure that this is not happening again which is to stop and prevent those violations from happening and that's I think that does amplify why we need this accountability part when it comes to to the to the human rights based analysis and and as you look when it comes to vulnerability and capacity as the two sides of the coin so the more you reduce vulnerability the the more you need to do on capacity the same thing when it comes reduction of threats you need to stop threats from happening you need when when you do your monitoring and your data collection you need to say whether this particular risk is decreasing or decreasing whether this means like threat and commitment if if the threat should be reduced then we need to ensure that the authorities and the states is more committed and we are seeing increased commitment from the state that they are responding to to whatever allegations we bring to them and they are acting upon them and they are able to provide the remedies for the people who are affected by those particular violations should we move next this with regard to the protection and analytical framework just I mean everybody is is familiar with that and and again we we are not inventing a new thing but we we would like to encourage you to to take into your analysis the the not only the capacities but also the commitment side I don't know if you want to add more on that no thank you say just to just to make sure that colleagues because I think colleagues who are here today they they are familiar quite familiar I would hope so with the protection analytical framework so what what say it presented in the previous slide is actually you know it's the same thing that we have here it's just another articulation here that you have seen this and I just wanted to make sure that colleagues might not get confused basically it's the same thing here just what say it has added is in this gray area box that we talk about capacities it's also about the commitment and willingness of the government actually besides the capacity to be able to you know undertake their human rights obligations so is the view you sometimes hear that the state is unable so that goes back to capacity or unwilling to so that willingness is also important and what say it is suggesting is also that we you know we include that in our analysis but basically we're not it's the same you know analysis framework that we're using thank you say thank you should we go to the last slide before we give also the floor for Brennan if I would like to summarize when it comes to any protection risk analysis that you're doing basically we need to look into the law whether it is the commitment of the states what kind of ratification what treaties what international obligations they have but also in terms of national legislation national policies national executive directives or or the lack of policy or the lack of legislation which comes to the protection of this particular risk the second part is when it comes to their obligations to ensure the protection from those states what they are doing are they're doing enough to protect those particular rights or not and also how they ensure that everybody they are aware and they are able to seek the information when it comes to those particular protection issues or risks the the part of this analysis is about the protection and the support services again it's the states that has to ensure that those are affected by those protection issues and threats are able to access protection and support services and here a human rights based approach basically should it should be around few things a few standards availability acceptability it's of good quality physically and economically accessible to all without discrimination so this is this is just basic this is the minimum that all states should should ensure and when it comes to then this particular analysis is who has been left behind who is most vulnerable who is less advantaged to to access those protection and support services and number five is about the remedies what are the available remedies to access and and also is there any restitution rehabilitation for people to recover from the protection threats and this comes here also to the what specific arrangements or procedures whether they even they are they are temporary to protect specific groups and this comes again the legislation and the law is important but sometimes you need to take urgent steps to protect for example people with disabilities this means even if you get some temporary protection but these types of actions could remedy the situation for some time but in the end our goal is to ensure the environment and also the policies are also aligned to ensure the protection moving next now just to quickly present two examples that I see they do touch upon those particular elements that I just presented our colleagues in Mozambique they highlighted forced recruitment and association of children they they did map the actors who are involved in child recruitment with their non-state actors they also touch upon the the way the state is legalizing certain non-state actors and the support they have extended to to these particular actors and also they presented something related to capacities in terms of understanding what entails of recruitment the gaps in the legal system includes the lack of age verification of processes they do highlight the engagement and also the mechanisms on the reporting on conflict children in armed conflict and also when it comes to the network of services and and the current challenges to access protection and support services so this has to do also how it mitigate the impact of those protection threats when it comes to victimization rejection detention and harassment and their recommendations they are very good in terms of seeking the endorsement of the protocols on handover and age verification as well as also towards the prevention stopping the prosecution of children that are released from those armed groups and the rollout of support services so this is a very good example but again there is always a room for improvement for the future the other example comes from South Sudan and it can touch upon discrimination against people with disabilities they have looked into the constitution they have also looked at the signature of identification of the convention on people with disabilities and also they took note of national disability inclusion and the disability action plan but also they highlighted issues when it comes to the national disability and the inclusion policies highlighting stigmatization discrimination and challenges in accessing justice and addressing housing and other property issues so these are two examples they showcase how we understand protection risks using the human rights framework and should we move to the last slide these are some slides when it comes that can be helpful for you when it comes to the status of verification they are part of the presentation I don't need to go through and the second one is about the recommendations that came out for each particular country if you go into the map you click one country then you can go into more the details about the what the universal periodic review has endorsed treaty bodies special procedures etc and next just I mean these are just examples human rights council is in its 55th session these particular countries are coming into the discussion and there are certain OSHR mandated reports will be presented and discussed and also there are some reports by the UN experts mandate holders when it comes to Myanmar Afghanistan also the commissions of inquiry numerous experts of South Sudan and Colombia next is also a slide on the universal periodic review the upcoming UPRs in 2024 includes Afghanistan Yemen DRC Ethiopia Salvador Madagascar and just I mean I don't need to present this one but you will have it in the presentation my now I'll give the floor to Brennan and thank you very much but we will have some questions after Brennan's thank you thank you Said and Brennan if we can hand over to you so Brennan works in DRC and we've asked Brennan to kindly present because DRC has already started using the human rights matrix tool and as you know the tool was developed and published very recently it was published I think in it was the end of January but we were very happy to see protection partners already starting to use that so we've asked Brennan to please join us to to showcase how DRC has started using the matrix over to Brennan please Brennan Samana I don't see him connected anymore I don't know if he has the problem in internet okay maybe I will skip this then and wait for Brennan to join us but I just wanted to reemphasize a few points that Said had made has made throughout the presentation we are here to you know to help and support you with strengthening your analysis your protection analysis and grounding it in human rights and legal frameworks and the matrix that has been developed and was presented we hope is a way to help you to quickly see and connect the protection risk to the human rights frameworks that are linked to those so you can actually take that language use that language in your advocacy work directly with the government or elsewhere also as part of the mechanisms human rights engagements that the GPC has been engaging on we are here to support you at the global level as well if you want to engage with with various human rights mechanisms as Said mentioned some of them for instance and currently the human rights council is in taking place we provided before the sessions two private briefings to member states and specific country situations we also and proactively reach out or sometimes the special mandate holders and special reporters reach out to us to arrange briefings with protection clusters and AORs we have recently had a number of briefings and four particular special reporters on Sudan on Myanmar and a number of other countries in DRC and so these are also the other you know ways that we can support you but basically we wanted to also emphasize and hope that by using these tools the protection analysis will be improved because currently we do see a little bit of a gap in in some of the documents protection analysis documents that are coming forward and we would we would like to see a bit and encourage a bit more use and reference to human rights frameworks legal frameworks and so you know for instance if you are talking about you know child rights violations you can use the matrix and see immediately that you know the international the convention on the rights of the child is relevant then you can see and whether the country that you're operating in has it ratified the convention on the rights of the child has it and if so then has it does it have any reservations and and even beyond that then you can see whether they've actually domesticated that you know international convention in their laws so you know a little bit of that additional analysis would really help we we have and also a number of countries as you know I mean we work on internal displacement we have a number of countries who are actively engaging in in low and policy development on IDPs for instance and we would like to see you know at least in your HNOs and HRPs not necessarily in your POWs because they're you know frequent updates and lawmaking is a is a long procedure but at least you know when you're providing that contextual situation in the country particularly at certain points of your analysis that references are made for instance in these in these type of documents because then you know you are protection clusters are very well suited to be able to engage and and and take the lead together with the other human attorneys with the HCT in advocating for instance enactment of these laws or if there's employee the laws have been implemented enacted but there is a bit of issue with implementation taking that implementation forward and we've seen in in country context at the country level usually when you are working with the government depends which which governments but usually when you refer to their international obligations to their particularly if they have national frameworks if you if you refer to their national obligations that they have already enacted and particularly even going drilling down to specific articles that they might be in violation we found that very effective at the at the national level so you know we are hoping to be able to support you with this kind of analysis and obligations of states but basically the key message is that we hope to share today that you know human rights is is at the core of humanitarian work so we share a common ground and so we use the human rights framework the human rights based approach for our humanitarian work human rights law is a critical normative guide for protection and you know the law by itself does not offer immediate solutions but it suggests approaches and it's a very strong advocacy tool to be able to to advocate with governments to uphold their obligations and human rights opens the door to partnerships and collaborative advocacy and so these are the messages that we wanted to share i'm not sure whether brennan has been able to join us francesco do you see him online i'm i'm back you're back okay okay i mean it's justice i was going to hand over to me so apologies i'm going to take off my camera just because i think it's still a little shaky okay brennan thank you but yeah no thank you for the opportunity to share experiences with the the human rights matrix and first i want to thank syed and francesco and colleagues at the gpc and oh a chr for for developing the matrix it's great and i find it a hugely helpful tool in terms of i mean what you've already said ensuring that common language and linkage linkages between protection risks and human rights and this is where i think we've made a lot of work or progress in the gpc over the past two years when i look at the human rights matrix that was developed i go straight to the protection analytical framework which you mentioned earlier and i refer to my my my favorite excel sheet ever uh it's titled annex one path analysis tools and there's a tab in there titled the concept matrix and in the concepts matrix uh it has a list of threats vulnerabilities and capacities and it links with you know uh humanitarian law provisions human rights law uh so i mean i kind of see that that as a precursor of what syed has developed you can click on the next tab as well because there's also i think a card deck that is is pretty cool and a great tool to use with teams to ensure that we're we're having the same definitions and understandings of what protection risks are so this is the card deck that was developed with the protection analytical framework and again both of these as well as the human rights matrix are all kind of aiming to have clear definitions to ensure that we're speaking the same language um i guess we can go to the next tab or click uh yeah you can click the next one as well perfect um and so you know this common understanding is it's important for our sector but also important when we're talking about the centrality of protection and when we're thinking about hcts or other sectors and ensuring that when we're talking for example about arbitrary detention we all have the same definition the understanding and can refer to the relevant human rights violations and legal frameworks applicable and uh drc has prioritized our engagement with human rights mechanisms and ihl compliance and kind of harmonizing our approaches over the past year and in doing so we developed our internal guidance and and we incorporated the great work that the task team on human rights did a few years back they developed guidance and recommendations on how to engage with human rights mechanisms and we we've incorporated that um so with this priority we've we've undertaken some workshops and trainings with the aim of strengthening uh our engagement with human rights mechanisms and we're able to use the matrix in in the last workshop we did which was super fun um and so just sharing a few pictures around the activities that we did uh the first one on the left uh we had an activity where colleagues looked at the various entry points to engaging with human rights mechanisms at the global level so looking at special procedures treaty bodies and the human rights council um so with this activity colleagues posted the printed out descriptions of these bodies uh and then looked at the specific mechanisms within each so for example in special procedures we looked at the special repertoire and idp's as a potential entry point uh etc etc um and then on the right hand side this is where you have the human rights matrix uh that zaid and colleagues have developed and you can see the printed out version of the columns of the human rights matrix and here I think we had the protection risk at the far left hand side the definition of the protection risk uh followed by the human rights violations that link to that risk and then the monitoring and reporting opportunities at the far right um so here again colleagues populated the matrix they worked together on this um and and we had um yeah so again it uh links the protection risks to the definitions to the rights violations and then to the the monitoring reporting mechanisms and this activity was great uh it was a great way for teams to work together and linking these four important elements um and it had the benefit of ensuring that we are working from the same definitions when we talk about our protection risks and how these protection risks link to human rights violations and then that helped us also identify entry points via the monitoring reporting uh descriptions noted in the matrix and again all this then comes together uh to help us have a more strategic and organized approach to engaging with human rights mechanisms um I'll leave it there for for now but if there are any questions let me know and thanks again for letting me share the the experience with the human rights matrix oh I'm sorry Samina you're muted sorry thank you um thank you Brennan um and it's it's very actually as I mentioned it's very exciting for us to see that although the tool has not been um you know released and launched for a very long time but it's already being used I understand from Brennan in a number of countries that DRC is active and so we hope that you also the partners who are available today would would use the tool I would find the tool helpful and use it for your various purposes um in the presentation that we will share we have um uh also indicated some um additional resources um that uh you know we went through today um and some focal points if you want to reach out um and understand a bit more about the two the human rights matrix including Saeed's contact and myself um also Francesco who has been behind the overall system building um and here you also have some additional um just links there is on the GPC website a training series on human rights engagements which has eight different modules um that's also um you might find that helpful for for your um for your work um but um with that um I hope that you've uh you've found the presentation helpful and if you have any questions please um please raise your hand and um it will be great if your internet allows to also open your cameras but we're here for any questions yes we will uh we will share the presentation with everyone yes Angeliki over to you we can't hear you Angeliki great sorry to say hello to everyone and thanks a lot for this lovely presentation and the work you have put in in developing the human rights matrix I just want to briefly share two words with regards to how IRC has started using the matrix um we are trying to um again have like a similar exercise but really try to align with what you have already been doing so I think that for us it has been very helpful uh to look at the human rights matrix and try to reflect this in our own work and internal like tools and materials and resources um we have been again trying to map the protection risks with specific um legal rights um human rights instruments and try to categorize and identify human rights violations um when analyzing protection risks um because we want to really strengthen our protection analysis by integrating human rights language and mostly because we want to link with specific risk mitigation strategies as well but really try to identify the actors who are responsible and accountable um to to respond and to protect so I think that this is a very relevant discussion and we are very happy to to contribute and and continue the work with you I just wanted to say that the matrix has been quite helpful and um and again as some of you have already mentioned I think it's a work in progress and once we also finalize our our approaches and tools we're happy to share um and see how we can complement each other's work but again a big thank you and I really want to encourage everyone in this call to keep working towards human rights integration and protection analysis thank you all thank you Angelique for sharing also that beyond the IRC IRC has also started using it this is very encouraging for us it's always good to see that the tools that we've developed you know are being used in in the field locations um do let us know of course of your um you know lessons learned how we can because I say it mentioned it's a work in progress we hope to improve it um so do let us know if if you while implementing it in the field if you have any suggestions for um improvement but say it over to you if you want to also comment uh I don't want to make much time but if there are other colleagues who want to come in for questions I don't know if there are any questions in the in the in the chat box look I mean from my perspective uh the law is it's just um it's a tool it's kind of it's just an approach but when it comes to what makes sense of the law it's it's the protection cluster actors and members and the organizations who on a day-to-day basis they speak to victims to survivors to people affected by violations and abuses of human rights law international law so you are all doing human rights work how the law will be helpful is is how make you make use of it how you use those particular interpretations of the law because the what the treaty bodies do what special procedures do is they interpret the law they provide you with certain standards and also what they are helpful uh whether it comes to your work is is not only about the long-term vision in terms of the environment what kind of the legislations and policies but also they can interpret these new complex and emerging protection issues in a human rights language so if you engage with a special reporter on this particular theme and you have a confusing question you don't know what to qualify this particular protection issue whether this is extortion or it is something else or it is about trafficking or or other new complex legal questions that are coming in then I think you need to convene a fora whether you need to have an informal conversation or or even you can make what is your your regular exchange changes on this particular theme and and and be as open as possible to convene actors outside the cluster because they can bring you different perspectives uh I don't want to uh to say more about it's all about the law and and of course lawyers and legal jargons I mean comes to over um complicate things but it's it's not it's not the case I think we need to always to have an open conversation to keep the communication ongoing and and as much as possible how we can work together towards the data collection because there are huge challenges when it comes on data collection and how we harmonize the data and and and also understanding the limitations even with these monitoring tools that we have and also we need to also understand that also limitations to these human rights mechanisms and tools so again we're not saying it's not the ideal word that we live in but we need always to use those tools for the better of the people that we are serving thank you thank you Said and before I just hand over to Francesco if colleagues you wish to have you have questions in in French or Spanish Francesco can help he is fluent in both languages and I think Said you're you're fluent in Arabic as well so if you have any questions in these three languages colleagues can support you but over to you Francesco thank you Said Simone there is a head raise from Uta before yes Uta over to you thank you Francesco Hi colleagues thank you very much for the presentation that was really really useful and just I'm from Uta working on the HPC and I have a more general question concerning the HPC could you maybe elaborate a bit more on how the the the matrix links to the production and analytical framework and also to the GF to the outcome indicators I know it's very technical but it would be good for us to to understand that better thank you I'll hand over to Francesco I think first to to tackle this question thank you Uta can you I had a broken connection can you repeat the question Uta it was around the HPC how the matrix links to the GF and also to the protection analytical framework okay we will reach out that's the initial question meaning that no no it's in plan so the first exercise we wanted to do with Said and colleagues was to actually come through with the matrix now we have it and we have linkages and then the second exercise we are doing within the GPC but also with the NWG and the colleagues of the the of the protection partners we are revising how to contribute with protection risk analysis to the general and HNO and GF process so we have a workshop next week and then follow up on that we we are looking into how to connect it better so we have some reasoning but we wanted to actually to connect together and see that's my quick answer then Francesco yes continue please yeah no I had actually maybe a common critical challenge question for the participants but if it's not the participants maybe Said or Brenna no colleagues one of the major challenge so of course the low the obligation are very helpful for advocacy and so on but when we're doing protection analysis and then we're publishing document for protection analysis specifically from the side of the cluster there is a very big challenge which is about the language and about being public with using specific analysis and one of the lessons learned that we have from last year across operation is that in critical countries namely Myanmar or other critical countries we are self censoring ourselves when we do analysis because we can openly speak about with human right language so my question is of course protection analysis give us the possibility the protection risk language to tackle the analysis from not a human right perspective so we can from the cluster site present those analysis and then this matrix the objective is to help us out in having a dialogue with human right actors and but does this alone address the challenge so can we really incorporate human right language in our protection analysis and how do we do in those contexts where human rights are actually a difficult elements to speak openly within the clusters so there's a question for some of the participants that I see but if you know nobody's coming on that happy to hear from you Said or Brandon just a reflection of that for someone it's over to you Brandon I mean I think we we have that challenge Francisco I mean with with just protection language as well so I mean to look at protection monitoring I think that we have examples of some countries they do two types of reports one internal one external and I think the important thing is that we don't we have to fight that self-censor we can't self-censor ourselves there are other ways to do the analysis but how we share the data and the findings is something else so I would say we we continue to incorporate human rights language and laws and policies into our analysis always but the way we share that information who we're going to share it with then is another thing to be discussed and I know there I mean there's always I think protect cows that are internal and external as well some don't get shared or you know on the website because of the sensitivities so I think it's important that protection cluster members identify these sensitivities but also make sure that we're not self-censoring on assumptions yeah get there thank you Brandon Emily I don't know whether your hand up is to also answer Francesco but please over to you but we can also come back to Francesco's question again now it's to answer Francesco's question and thanks I'm Emily from OHCHR we work together with Said and thank you very much colleagues for for this great presentation I think it's a key question and and I would agree that you know we are seeing that that colleagues are refraining themselves to to speak about protection in public documents or with the counterparts but we need to keep a minimum we need to keep that door open with the government and also think internally as protection actors what is the advocacy strategy strategy to to put upon these these protection issues and that can be with other partners with third parties that can be with special procedures with mechanism but we cannot stop completely ourselves from doing it because if it's not us then nobody will do it and it will be completely lost and we cannot come back so I was strongly encouraged to keep that even to a minimum or like brainstorm to find other partners to to take on that advocacy over thank you thank you Emilia and just to add also from the GP side I think we as I mentioned a few examples of the advocate the recent advocacy that we have undertaken and we have been operating in quite sensitive you know locations and sometimes we are just feeding that information from the country level colleagues and taking it upon us not to have implications I know there's always a bit of sometimes depending on which agencies a risk factor about operational implications and so this is also a role that GPC plays you know we we are here both as GPC but you know to be able to amplify the voice that in some certain situations sensitive situations maybe the country is not able to but as Brennan said it's that information will can be fed to us you know not publicly but then we would be able to take those advocacy channels and I think it's also very important to also map and identify the various channels and champions you know it's not always the the work of necessarily protection partners to be at the forefront of the advocacy in the country there might be other stakeholders that are better positioned are in a better relationship or are are able to take that advocacy more forward be it's the you know the HCT raising it at that level sometimes the donors are very very effective in in channeling that advocacy to the governments directly so that also has to be mapped but that doesn't take away from the you know that that our protection analysis has to be grounded in that in that human rights work and and exactly as Brennan said I think it's it's more the after how do we share that information is it public is it private what how do we channel that protection analysis and use it for advocacy thank you um I see um Francesco there's a lot of chat in the conversation in a language that I don't understand unfortunately but if you think that it's relevant to others that you want to share maybe you can also summarize so you know if colleagues are interacting no colleagues are just asking if the guidance will be available in Spanish and I will also suggest uh French I say that we have it in plan we don't know exactly when so we'll come back to everything when when we have a clear ideas but um of course uh we will do it this soon and then there is a colleague I don't know if he wants to come in from uh I don't want to mispronounce the name from Ethiopia uh same challenge for Ethiopia here too previously there was a legislation that specifically restrict NGOs to work on right but now it's being repealed but still is a challenge to use in my human rights language um they can be it can be sensitive so just reinforcing on that um that we don't know how to comments yes maybe I come back to the to the topic on my side because of course I raised the question because it's one of the things we are discussing quite widely with our colleagues in the cluster with Said and and and generally um from our side one of the reasons that pushed us to work first on the protectionist definition and now in this human right in the human right matrix is that indeed we cannot refrain ourselves to do the correct analysis and that's it's a given and we have to find the best way to do it but of course we have to be very very sensitive on the way we build together that analysis so the way we engage actors when we do the analysis and it's not just about just the publishing of the document and there are two different processes so the idea of these matrix as any other process of reflection we are having is that we find the best way to communicate to have an open communication with human right actors when it's possible both during the analysis and during after the analysis and we don't stop that communication and that there are ways of doing it and it's fundamental that on our side we are very clear on prioritizing what are the most critical protection risks and then looking and seeking support to see what are the the the human right consideration behind that of course within the protection clusters probably we can't address all of those because the protection cluster has to provide humanitarian assistance of course under a human right framework but there are other actors that maybe they can intervene and they can act so it's fundamental that we share our analysis so again we didn't solve the challenge I think and the challenge is quite open but I think it's just from my side and GPC on the analysis to invite even to get in touch with us and find ways of moving forward with that analysis and a universal human right center approach and but I stopped there and over to to Yusman and Said I see you want to say thank you Francesca Said over to you thank you very much I mean I agree with you when it comes to the analysis and when when there are also issues when it comes to publishing and what we put out in and disseminate etc but I also see this protection analysis to what extent it does inform programming and and also response because sometimes we might I mean from this analysis come out that there is other particular groups we have not looked at and also perhaps the cluster needs to consider which are the most responders that are accessing these particular groups so for example just in the last two years our colleagues in Somalia this kind of minority mapping that informed later on targeting across the other sectors so these I think and in the in the guidance that we started working on and and by the way I'll send you by tomorrow a clean version it it has come like significantly progressed over the last few weeks is is to suggest what what kind of partnerships we need to have when it comes to data collection when you do protection monitoring exercises and how we carry this particular analysis to the program cycle because I mean I still struggle to see the HRP as a reflection of the HNO because you see the HNO is is kind of a whole list of needs but when it comes to the HRPs we go to address five out of seven or four out of seven perhaps it's your graphical access we don't have the capacity we don't have the expertise to work with these particular groups but I don't know to what extent you see this effort when it comes to the the human rights based analysis could inform that yeah perhaps we need to work with these particular groups or if there it comes to certain geographical locations that are mostly impacted by violations by certain abuses perhaps yeah do we need to shift gears but yeah but I don't see this is limited only to advocacy whether member states or or in country at city advocacy thank you thank you Said of course yes thank you for highlighting the you know programming and response aspect of the protection analysis as well of course it's it's not in silo thank you so much I also just wanted to to hear kind of read out or echo what Martina mentioned a lot of you might be familiar with Martina Martina leads together with Catherine from NRC the law and policy task team and yeah shout out to Martina I didn't know whether you're in a meeting okay I'll hand over to you Martina to explain also and if you want to to a little bit introduce yourself and and also the support that the from the law and policy side that you can provide to two colleagues in country thank you no thanks so much Samane and I didn't want to you know steal the show but no but really just to say for colleagues we have of course a law and policy task team under the global protection cluster and a lot of the colleagues that are here today Said the colleagues from DRC your organization are all well represented there as well we have some even some earmarked fundings actually to support some of the national level activities on law and policy on internal displacement so we can help you for example even if you would like to organize a workshop with the government you know on some of these issues whether it is around discussing the implementation like the protection cluster in Niger last year did we support them with some of the financial fundings to organize a big workshop looking at the existing IDP act the law on internal displacement in Niger and looking at how can we move forward with the implementation you know so it was about raising awareness and etc so that's for example one one way but of course we are happy to help you with conceptualizing some of these activities supporting some of your efforts the legal analysis where it is needed and we have also developed a project specifically on legal aid in humanitarian settings and we'll have a session on that so I won't say much right now but I think that that's also an area of priority for us and feel free to reach out to learn more about it whenever whenever whenever you want thank you so much thank you Martina thank you colleagues do we have any other questions no so I think we are eight minutes early and it's good I think everybody would appreciate you know going a bit earlier and closing the session for sure we will share the tools thank you for your patience thank you for your interest in participating today I hope you found it helpful and we will also share the context of resource people who are in today's session to be able to if you have any follow-up questions after the meeting thank you so much everyone