 Welcome back. Time for our very first hot topic. You are on your own. The party has not decided on the sharing formula. That's the statement by the chairman of the APC, Abdulahi Adamutu, the National Assembly leadership, as unveiled to principal offices. And we have been joined to discuss this this morning by Honorable Dr. Shinova Ibrahim. He's a political analyst. Good morning, Honorable Ibrahim. Good morning. It's nice to see you guys. How are you doing? Good morning, Nigerians. I'm good. Glad to have you join us. First of all, let's start with your assessment or your take on this fiction that is brewing. Good morning once again. There's nothing really happening in a progressive Congress. It's just a game of interest. Don't forget that we are not in a political season again. Governors has convinced that we have the president, we have the vice president, we have all the kitchen cabinets ready to work. And the National Assembly will not be able to wait for anybody to constitute his own leadership so that the standing committees can commence the screening of the ministers and other senior government officials, oversight and other functions. So I don't want us to dwell more about people not satisfied with the list of the leadership of the National Assembly. It's not really a big deal. It's just a normal process in politics. Things happen like that. You go here, somebody go, be and cease. It's okay. It's all right. Well, don't forget that the House has comments. The proceedings of yesterday was thoroughly published and analyzed and the House didn't comment on their constitutional duty. It varies on the list of the standing committees released and the Nigerians will benefit from what they voted for. So it's not really something we should... So this is not a case of... So this is not a case of a House divided against itself. I mean, because the chairman of the party, you see, is saying we have a sharing formula and this does not reflect it. We have not shown who and how these principal officers should be selected as a party. You do not see this as a party divided against itself, especially since the Senate president is from that party. You know, I would like to be a little bit cautioned because this is not the time for politics again. I'm a member of the National Presidential Council of that party and also served on a professional body as a PhD holder. You know, work on different public policy for the party and other institutions. You know, I know Senator Adam very well right from his governorship days when he was serving as a governor of Nassau. You know, when you have interests in different people, unfortunately your interests turn to frictions. You know, you're unable to actualize your dream. You know, sometimes, you know, you still have this, you know, residue of, you know, you know, failure. So there's no way the Constitution that confirm on the party that the party must, you know, nominate or advise the leadership of the National Assembly. Those are unconstitutional statements. So I would suggest we should order ourselves. We have a lot of national issues to discuss about what Bola Medina is doing, you know, in government. So this friction is good for democracy, you're saying? It's a brilliant move for democracy. It's not even good for democracy. The friction is not there. You know, we are expecting PDP to raise eyebrow. We are expecting PDP and Labour Party to stop. Well, they have raised eyebrow. They have raised eyebrow and they are saying it's pure selection. It's pure appointment. What it shows is that the National Assembly has engaged its independence. That's the view coming from the Labour Party. Unfortunately, I have not seen, you know, where the official statement was released by Labour Party or PDP. If you are talking about selection, absolutely it's about selection. Selected by the member, elected member of the National Assembly. You know, when you voted into National Assembly, you know, people need to be enlightened, including the leadership who are objecting to what the National Assembly has done. They need to be enlightened. Even the party needs to go for, you know, some, you know, section of, you know, political, you know, you know, you know, we are talking about a constituted assembly here. They were elected by their constituencies. Once they get into National Assembly, the process of selecting leadership is between the 403 or so, you know, elected members. So, let's assume the party even has sent its own list. It would not still fly if the members in there don't agree with them. It has happened. Look at Tambua, doing Tambua and Muliqat. Look at Dugara and Adyao Bagya. Look at the issue at that time. The party sent in their own list. Still doesn't work. Still, it doesn't work. So, it's all about, you know, it's, it's internal politics between, within the leader, within the elected member of the National Assembly. So, the party, for me, it's from scholars who say the party is just composing, because your recommendation, your advice is going to be a recommendation. Just an advice. So, are you, so that's what it is. No issue at all. We should focus on governance. What is going on in governance? What is Bola Metinumbu doing? Those are the things that we should discuss. It's not about somebody's not happy, it's not unhappy. It is from the North Central. North Central has produced the deputy. In fact, it should even be happy. I don't know if the National Chairman actually said that, but I think I was reading a few, you know, platforms. Well, you know, it's not a big deal. You know, the party has moved on. And those are, those list, those names on that list are credible Nigerians, you know, across, you know, every section of this country. So, anybody flipping is just, you know, it's just the words, you know, discussing at all. Okay. Well, Adamu is flipping. He has to be the chairman of the party that produced the president. And from what you're saying, he should be dismissed. And, in fact, on the headline today, on the Punch newspaper, we hear that Adamu is going to meet president Tnumbu over this matter. This means there is something that he considers important. Matter of fact, there are also some statements from some quarters that this is actually a cold war between Adamu and president Tnubu. And this is just some of the things playing out as a result of that cold war. How do you respond to this? What is the cold war? I don't understand what's the cold war. You know, actually, Adamu is very busy now. He's having, you know, his election is clearly contested. He lost Lagos for the first time. He lost Lagos for the first time. He lost Kano. He lost Kastina. He lost major spot of this country. So, the victory of what you are doing is the victory for ordinary Nigerians on the streets. And if you look at his policies, Muslim policies are ordinary for ordinary Nigerians ensuring that he left a great legacy. He needs nothing from anybody right now than he wants to write his name in the Code of Gold in the annals, you know, and the fabrics of this country. You know, you don't want us to go back to the primary. You know, I'm delegating that primary. And I'm a member of the, you know, of the Prime Minister of the primary. We move from the convention. I don't want us to go back there. Because if you go back there, we'll be looking at those people who are flipping and are repeating it again now. They have no moral justifications. They have no, you know, but I don't want to use some, you know, some, some, some words, you know, when, you know, I will, so just to leave it at that, is the National Chairman is, you know, welcome is, you know, is entitled to meet with the president if the schedule allows. Because he's busy. If the schedule allows. Yes, I repeat, if the schedule allows, because he needs to serve over 200, 230 million Nigeria right now, he has removed subsidy. In this, people are suffering. People are crying every day. And he could feel their pain. It was in Lagos recently. People are telling him, we are crying, we are suffering. But we trust you. We know we are going to do the best for us. That's why we didn't protest. That's why the Nigeria Liberal Congress, you know, slow down. That's why a lot of civil society slow down. We are enjoying. Nigerians will enjoy across the North Sahara, across the North Desert, in the Creek of Nada Delta, and the Western part of this country. You know, it needs to address the monetary issue, it needs to address the oil and gas. Oil and gas sector. It is to ensure that the market forces reduce the price of PMS. It needs to ensure that there is sufficient gas, you can imagine gas have drawn, percent because the market is open you know and we have to look at what is what this gentleman is doing is forcing is what they call community economy is compressing the economy of this country to prosperity allowing the prices of goods and services to force the price into into reality he has opened up the oil and gas downstream upstream sector yesterday he signed almost five billion dollars floating gas stations so these are the issues that we should discuss about what I expect the media you know to look into what is doing and if the oppositions who are the the major person of the PDP and the labor party should come up with a strategy you know to key into what is doing or the council raise their own objection in terms in terms of you know criticizing you know diligent criticism of what is doing so if somebody is meeting if anybody is meeting there actually this schedule is allowed I know it's very busy I know it's going to have a lot meeting we have a revenue shortage in this country we have um um workers issue increment of payment of worker because he must increase he has to increase the wage wages wages wages wages of civil servants he has to do a lot of things for you know for young students in this country you know ensuring that those people that deserve to be supported are giving the loan he has to do a lot of things he has to submit his ministerial you know uh uh list so why will it be bad about somebody not happy with the what is that so are you a senator now is he the senior president or is he a member of national assembly well honorable Dr Oshino Ibrahim I think this is a good place to leave this conversation and see how your party tidies up all of these uh coming up from your axis thank you so much there's nothing to tidy up and if you want to bring me to your show I will not come next time if I'm 25 minutes 10 minutes I ask arise I won't come back there are 35 minutes 10 minutes all right okay we're going to fix that we'll fix that and and and it's because we have a second hot topic to discuss so next time what we're going to factor is when you're coming honorable Dr Oshino will be treated as the only guest on the program that day how does that sound it sounds great thank you so much thank you so much I really appreciate so don't worry please don't worry there's no future in our party we are not worried we are not worried at all but we are we actually don't worry we're not flipping his number it's allowed members of uh you know we we are just concerned you know it's not the crime to see all of this playing out we are observing and we are reporting as journalists so that Nigerians will be fully aware of some of the games being played by some of the political actors in the country thank you so much that's fine that's fine that's fine and just relax and enjoy your day thank you so much for being a part of the program okay it's time for us to move to our second hot topic we've had honorable Dr Oshino Ibrahim who has joined us to look at the crisis brewing in the APC camp he says we should dismiss those who are flipping so that is yesterday what you have brought to you as members of the fort estate of the ram let's have your thoughts on this you can go to our social media platforms and let us know your thought on this discussion that's brewing right now we'll move on to our second hot topic stay with us