 All right, it is five o'clock. I will call this meeting of the Finance and Personnel Committee to order. We'll begin with the roll. Alder Ackley. Here. Alder Flicky Panesky. Here. Alder Pirella. Here. Alder Felvey is absent and excused. Mitchell is here. We have a quorum. Will you all please join me in the pledge? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Barring any objections, we'll jump over item four, the introduction of committee members and staff, and move on to item five, which is approval of the minutes from the June 12th meeting. So moved. We have a motion and a second, seeing no further discussion on the minutes. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Chair votes aye. The ayes have it. The motion passes. Minutes are approved. Next up, we'll move to item number six, which is resolution number 21 of 2324, a resolution appointing Bond Trust Services Corporation as fiscal agent in connection with certain outstanding obligations. Thank you. The item before you tonight is to consolidate all of the bonds that we have previously issued to one fiscal agent. What that means is they will help us make sure that we have all of our payments in on time to the right spot. Throughout the years of the city issuing these debts, we actually have multiple fiscal agents, or some of the bonds have none at all. So in order to make sure that we are consistently compliant and never miss a deadline, we have asked Bond Trust Services to take over all of the bonds. So this is giving me that authority to go ahead and move forward with that. Questions or comments? Oh, they're Plikipinaski. Thank you. What's the relationship of this fiscal agent to ALERS? So they are almost like a subsidiary of ALERS. So they will actually work directly with ALERS to make sure that all of our bonds even moving forward would be with the same company. And then one more. And then I saw $450 in a whole list of things they do for $450. I'm assuming that that's $450 per bond. That is correct, per year. Thank you. Thank you. Any other discussion on this one? If not, we would be looking for a motion to approve. So moved. We have a motion and a second then, seeing no further discussion. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Chair votes aye. The ayes have it. And the motion passes. That takes us to item number seven, which is RC number 204 of 2223. Your committee to whom was referred to the motion was referred to item number number 125 of 2223 by city clerks submitting a claim from Mario D. Campbell for alleged injuries that occurred when he fell. So this is just here for filing. Mr. Campbell filed a slip and fall claim, which has already been denied. Any discussion from the committee? If not, we would be looking for that motion to file. I move to file. We have a motion and a second then, seeing no further discussion. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Chair votes aye. The ayes have it. And the motion passes. Brings us to item number eight, which is RC number 206 of 2223. Your committee to whom was referred, arrow number four of 2223 by city clerk submitting a notice of circumstances of injury regarding an incident that occurred on January 7th, 2022, between the city of Sheboygan Police Department and Frank Bernard. So this is also in front of you filing the initial notice of circumstances of injury was then followed up with and became a claim, which has now been denied. And we have submitted this also to our insurance because of the possibility of litigation. Other if I can ask you. Thank you. What's the relationship of this type of claim to be pre vetted by the police and fire commission or is there none? Well, the police and fire commission doesn't prevent these kind of actions. They're basically higher and then oversee discipline. So if there had been discipline brought against an officer, they might hear that if an officer contested that discipline. OK, if I put it in quotes, the excessive use of force, the use of excessive force. So where do those types of complaints go whether or not they get an official filing for damages? So if Mr. Bernard had chosen to file a complaint, he would have filed a complaint with the police department and then had the against a particular officer. And then he could have appealed that to the police and fire commission if he didn't like the result of the investigation. None of that happened. So that's neither here nor there. Instead, he filed a complaint for he filed a claim for damages. So the protocol would be if I felt maligned to complain directly to the police department? If you wanted to make a complaint against an officer, then the process that the police and fire commission has created is that you would make what's called a citizens complaint. Citizens complaint gets reviewed by the police department. And then at the end of that review, the result is provided to the complainant. If the complainant does not like the result of that, they can appeal that to the police and fire commission. But that is really limited to the issue of discipline against an officer for failing to follow a policy or a statute. That's more clear. Yes, this is not about this is different. This is about a monetary claim. This was about exactly the monetary compensation. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Other problem? I wonder if Mr. Bernard has still the option to file a complaint with the police department and possibly later with the commission, even if he filed this with the CD. He could have. That would be a separate matter if you wanted to file a complaint. Yeah, but he can, right? Yes. This doesn't hinder that. So if he still wouldn't. This doesn't hinder that. No, so he can still do it. OK. We're merely denying his monetary claim. Right. But also, well, that's a different story. So thank you. Do we have any other discussion on this one? If not, we would be looking for a motion to file unless the city attorney looks at me and says no. We are. OK. I move to file. Second. We have a motion and a second for filing. Seeing no further discussion. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Chair votes aye. The ayes have it. The motion passes. Brings us to our last item, item number 9, which is RC number 212 of 2223. Your committee to whom was referred, I wrote number 123 of 2223 by city clerk submitting a letter from Crystal Meisening, notifying the city of Sheboygan of the intent to file civil action regarding an incident that occurred on August 23rd, 2022. This is here for filing as well. This had previously been a monetary claim against the city, which had been denied, followed by her notice of intent to file civil action, which hasn't occurred. Questions or comments? If not, we would be looking for that motion to file. I move to file. Second. We have a motion and a second. Then seeing no further discussion. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Chair votes aye. The ayes have it. The motion passes. Next meeting will be on July 10th. And with that, we have exhausted our agenda and are looking for a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second. We have a motion and a second. All in favor of adjournment? Aye. All opposed? Chair votes aye. The ayes have it. The motion passes. We are adjourned. Thank you. Attorney. It's been a while, really bad. We'll stop it. We'll stop it. We'll stop it. We'll stop it. We'll stop it. We'll stop it. We'll stop it. We'll stop it. We'll stop it. We'll stop it. We'll stop it. We'll stop it.