 Welcome back to the breakfast on plus TV Africa time for us to check out the front pages of a national dailies We do have Chris one do who will be joining the conversation as we proceed I like to set up with the daily trust newspaper this morning. Let's find out what big stories are making it On the front page of the daily trust newspaper you have many killed as 21 story building collapses in Lagos This will be dominating all of the papers Because it's a very big one. You have several riders underneath the boat caption four bodies recovered on a project manager others trapped Structural engineers resigned before collapse Investigation on goings Lagos government is quoted. We must get to the root of the matter Find out who is saying all of that. This is some of the Riders you find on page five of the daily independence now moving away from that particular caption You also have involvement in internal Security straining our resources. That's what the military is quoted to say feels scarcity looms as Ipman accuses depot owners of price hike another interesting caption Impitched speaker declared wanted has played to assembly crisis continues. That's also on page six EFCC arrest obi-kubana over money laundering That's also another caption more details available on page 39 dango-tacement records one trillion-hour revenue growth sugar earnings drops by 41.7 percent That's it on The daily trust we'll just check out one more headline and then we move away from the daily trust newspaper this morning 774,000 jobs federal government owing beneficiaries 7.3 billion hour That's what the minister is quoted to say all of that on page four of the daily trust newspaper. That's it All right to the punch newspapers 10 die As 21 story building collapses in Lagos designer wand of tragedy About 40 workers were on site when the building came down says eyewitnesses Developer engineers clients and others trapped someone who orders investigation Anambra decides Saturday poll must hold our representatives are ready to assist says Masab An IPO be defense ESN over Anambra killings tackles us a dimma International affairs rise as naira crashes on IAT a platform We can also find on the punch consumers demand privatization review as power generation drops to three thousand eight hundred and forty four megawatts reps probe collapse of one point eight nine billion dollars Delta Steel Community Delta Steel I beg your pardon as a community fumes once again reps probe the collapse of One point eight billion dollars Delta Steel Community Films oddly Outrage grows raid team leader whistleblower face police panel a Few others on the punch. I'm attacking begins interstate patrols to tackle kidnapping and others Monarch denies villagers killed and customs men residents flee or goon community We can also find a fuel queue resurface for four queues resurface in Nassar our abuja Niger as marketers hike prices EFCC picks up will be cubana alleges money laundering and tax fraud. I Think that's all we are gonna take on the punch this morning All right, let's move away from the punch newspaper and check out the nation newspaper this morning at board caption reads minister government owes Seven hundred and seventy four thousand jobs beneficiary 7.3 billion narrow might just be dominating the papers You have bank issues to blame says Kayamo payment will be before end of year That's the rider you find you also have a number of twenty twenty one Uba Saludo Ozebo call for dialogue with iPod That's the rider you find you also have seventy six thousand one hundred and four voters ricks no voting All of that on the front page of the nation newspaper IG orders probe of siege to odd delize abuja home That's on page 28 of the nation newspaper You also have deeper owners increase petrol price by nine nair Penguins quoted on that that's on page seven and Buhari Biden are the sick end to carbon emission It's also on page 30 of the nation newspaper and just before we move away frackers at the House of Assembly over speakers remover and Ford die in collapse 22-story Equal Lagos building. You also have a picture pictorial representation of What actually happened yesterday or what it looks like right now? Okay, to pick up a copy of the nation. I'm sure you get all of the information All right, and let's move to the daily independent newspapers this morning And so what we can quickly find of course the big one there is still on the collapse to build on the big picture You can see there. It says also Senate says Buhari's government out of tune with reality decries budget or allocation to solid minerals and steel development police arrest and battle platu speaker and ten others National Assembly draws flak over on called for interference in aviation Stakeholders condemn lawmakers for halting new handling rates one Nigeria may lose FAA category one status Three dead several trapped in collapse 21-story Lagos building It says also the building always vibrated at night says the site engineer Nigeria's worst military government better than Buhari's says governor Tom Invasion of justice oddly his residence perpetrators will face the wrath of the law says the IGP Invasion and embarrassment to the nation or ne'er Dairy one security operatives punished for the siege Outrage as premium steel officials walk out of reps panel Reps demand presence of MD over misappropriation of 1.89 billion dollars assets host communities demand revocation of sale And finally COVID-19 or going to bow and vaccinated residents from markets schools and government offices Chris one do good morning. Thanks for joining us on the breakfast Good morning. Thanks for having me Right does it's a it's a cocktail of stories here and there there's so much in the papers this morning I'm guessing we should start here in Lagos With the collapse of the 21-story building I agree with you. Let's go Go ahead. Let's hear you. But I just want I want to get you to your thoughts Okay, um, it's quite unfortunate. What happened yesterday With the collapse of the 21 or 20 story building Has been reported This is a a collapse too many especially in Lagos And um, I continue to wonder when such upon and government issue Prestigy to make it be investigated Those above would be prosecuted and rest of them But at the end of it all to find out and nothing happens We have classical example one with the In Tuahapu at Senegal We are close to 100 Nigerians and foreigners and we are died And um, I do that. Um, that issue went to party now. Nothing has come out of it After that, I'm talking of the major one now. One happened at somewhere at Lakey or is after Lakey Remember that estate That we had a collapse and the mb of the company of that company was arrested and was to be prosecuted You know what happened that case There have also been other couple Other uh, collapse here and their pockets of pilates and rest of them and at the end of it all What we hear the legacy comments that are all we're going to Uh investigate that we're going to prosecute those involved and rest of them. But my challenge here is that I I saw the statement issued by um This legacy government yesterday And it is small not only Of which investigated the That could last but also Stating that um the The approval given for the building is for 15 plus and not 21 plus And that's okay. Could those clap a clap for them? But the question is that when they got to 15 floor and moved to 16 17 18 19 2021 what did the government do What is legacy government? What is the relevant agencies of government? Did they stop the work or they allow you to continue and by now this morning? I'm expecting out in sina climbs The commissioner in charge of that ministry should be on suspension immediately and other relevant Directors or whoever is in charge of Approval for building the legal should be should be on suspension or should be sucked That is only where you that is how you can only bring in bring in some kind of uh deterrent When it comes to issues like the best at the end of it or nobody's punish nobody So it is rather unfortunate that we continue to go through this route every time And then see people dying and also some manner of collapses and rest of them because there are some kind of People trying to search Change themselves in building look at some of the report coming out We are one of the contractors putting a letter last year that to say that The this construction is being compromised and we cannot continue working On this side and the letter you must have seen the letter And I expected that when the letter was written what the legacy government A relevant the agencies in government do after seeing the letter or after receiving the letter For us to allow this to have gone Thank god it's happened now. I'm just using the word thoroughly Thank god it happened now under construction If we are feeling that building and it's fully occupied and people are living there And in a collapse we can so it's one story beauty You that it can imagine what could have happened in that place is so my for me The work of the blame still lies on the legacy government and the relevant agencies that give a proper position So let's see what they will but to me I'm not a mistake. I know that it's too good the same way that others before it had gone and will continue I say nothing has happened Well, just just to quickly mention the the letter you're speaking about wasn't Directed to the Lagos state government It was from a pro as engineering limited. It was directed to a femi osibona Not the latest government It was directed to what I am saying is maybe if it was directed to the owner Lagos did have come that a 15th floor house moved from 15 to 21 And nothing was done. Nobody stopped that construction. That's what I'm talking about Who issued the seal to To the approval for the plan So those are the issues. Yeah, I understand your point Okay, let's also move away from that and check out the daily trust newspaper this morning The military saying The involvement in internal security is straining their resources And over the years you'll find that that some quarters have been You know questioning the fact that the military is involved in civil I mean, you know in civil issues internal issues where you have the police and now they are complaining We'd like to share your thoughts on that Great the rule for the military across the globe is for it's against a standard address us not internal Insecurity and rest of them. That is the norm across the globe and that is demanded of the army The primary responsibility of securing internal For internal security countries But the state and in the police But from what we're seeing is it not obvious that the police is overwhelmed that they cannot even handle Issues of that nature. So, uh, is a is a very very terrible situation. We find ourselves We seem to have overstretched our military Um Military or the army and even this Police and other religious because of the high level of the security at all the country. But what would they do? They are not at war. Uh, we are not just not at war With any country and they cannot just sit down in barracks and just watch why everything goes bunker So it is also within their mandate to make sure that we are fully secured that my own challenge here is that I think we should do a lot more in our policing and um, that is where we also be talking about the thinking of the constitution where um state policing as a part of the internal organization of security Uh in the country should be based on if we have state policing and states taking responsibility for security within their domain and states There it was to put up the pressure on on national police until we do that We'll continue to run itself because as you have it now, I doubt we could have up to 500 000 policemen Going to police about 200 million points. Not possible Then definitely whereas we will get it certainly from dss From uh civil defense or where that's a shortfall. So the military must definitely come into place. So, but I believe that we can do more All we should continue doing is continue a recruitment of more policemen. The last time I checked I think it better got me given a cover for another recommend of our 10 000 policemen or there are If we continue in prison that maybe 10 000 20 000 only yearly basis by now, I'm sure would have gotten it That is just one aspect of the of the conversation. The other aspect is funding Are we funding the police enough? You can he go and check the police. The police man buys his uniform himself He buys his belt He buys his boots and the little you give him a salary does not take him home And every day we continue blaming them that they are standing on the road and collecting 20 naira So I think that should be a holistic look at our police system and the way we treat our security agencies Most of them are not ensured their lives are not ensured if you die You just die if they just died or not. So those are the issues we are looking at and in that kind We see that the security agents are not ready to put in their best especially the policemen Who wants to die in a situation that when they know that they died the children will not be taken care of So we need to have a holistic look at our police system Make sure that we secure the police are well funded Also make sure that we're having the kind of recruitment that can allow and make the police More attractive to people. What we're having now is just people that just don't have any job or who don't have any other means of Uh, they just decided to let me go and join the police and to also make the police very very attractive for people too Uh, credible Nigerians to be part of Then we continue to have the kind of problem we're having Yeah, well, I've seen um People argue that the idea of police reform in Nigeria is almost impossible because of the the rot in the system might just be You know almost impossible to completely wipe out Um, but we're still talking about the police with our next story and that is in With the justice, uh, oddilies residents It says here on the daily independent the perpetrators will face the wrath of the law says the IGP Um, the invasion is an embarrassment to the nation And of course, uh, Haneze Is speaking here deary one security operatives punished for the siege So let's you know talk about that now with relations to um, where you're coming from Let me bring it to look up balance my brother. What are we saying that is luri ira luri As when nobody says This is not the first time we are hearing the Do you know where you hear some of this theory? Don't cover yourself my brother. That is the fact. That is the situation we find ourselves What I just read the most often that is like this will just think we have food They just have different statements kept somewhere anything happened. They just draw it out changing names changing The date and rest of that just push it out. This is what we hear on a daily basis So many you remember what happened when some security agencies redid the homes of Justices of the supreme court Was anybody prosecuted for that? That is a fringe that that we have What we call separation of power The executive have no right to start meddling into affairs of the judiciary They are established for this to handle issue of corruption. Whatever you name it in the judiciary And that is the issue of engineers. We have the engines There's a statutory body in charge of that The same is in legislature the legislators have also the also When you see the police is out of the executive and the situation where you see them just open up and down and also Dss and rest of the going to rage homes of Justice of the other of the high courts Better high courts have been caught up a billion just But the most worrisome part of it is that if that woman has been killed go forbid in the course of that All that happened The dss privilege to came out as an issue a statement EFCC came out and issue a statement And the is better general police issued a statement the agf tissue a statement that they were not part of so who was who ordered it That that warrant for such was gotten from a magistrate court Who signed that who is trotted that the names of the people involved were not Look at the political commander led to this thing. His picture is all over the all over the social media So what am I saying in essence? We cannot continue going to this way at the end of it or we now start denying Oh, no, we are not part of it and rest of them. That means there's a complete Love between within our security agencies if the IG cannot be able to control what happens in his within is the male Or the policeman under his wife then that went trouble If the agf as the chief law officer cannot be able to Pre-point It is like it and drink to such on whoever issue that Warrants that such weren't they were in trouble if the dss is which is our secret police cannot be able to Investigate also look at issues as it were and make sure that copies so people that are taking the laws into their hands Are well there to then that problem This must have been happy is because it is a mario deli who is a justice of supreme court But you know how many Nigerians whose home have been brought in into by most of this policeman illegally to perpetuate some of these acts Yeah, we still get to see and just reminds me of a video that I saw sometime a few days ago actually of Not sure who they are now EFCC or the police or or whatnot breaking in the doors of people's homes somewhere in the state Um late at night at 1 a.m. Or 2 a.m. Um, yes, and so You know like you said, you know, this is only making the news because it is uh, just as um, oddly Exactly could be any other Nigerian But yes, mr. Wando is it possible Um that the IGP doesn't know the officers who were at this woman's house Is it also possible possible that the commissioner of police in that state is not aware of which officers were at that particular residence There's a chain of commands in the in the in the security agency A chain of command within the within the local especially police at the local level you have the DPO After the DPO, you have the area commander After the rear commander you have the commissioner of police Then on top of the commissioner of police is the AIG Then also on top of that AIG is the AIG who also controls certain areas and certain Before he gets to the AIG The AIG for the benefit of that cannot be it cannot we not know we not sit in his office Abuja at first headquarters and know what is happening in your local government in your state Maybe it's impossible. So before that, so what are we let them let us go through the ranks and be able to Check out where this it came from. I would rather start from the commissioner of police or the commissioner of police in F city I will hold him responsible for whatever Because he's also responsible for whatever happened within the previous division in under him So my query we go to the To the commissioner of police F city rather than the inspector general police Then it is now for the commissioner of police to now query all those under him They say this is a special unit or whatever who is in charge of special units We are still talking about rating of people's asses You can I can tell you that even EFCC what EFCC is the Modus operandi of EFCC now. I don't know. It's part of the act a Was it a Puma housemate in B. Brother Nigeria a lady Sometime ago You I'm sure you still remember that lady. Yes, we do came out to us out how EFCC Operated came into the house break down her house Ransom the whole place and rest of them Saying that they are looking for Yahoo Yahoo boys or whatever and rest of them And when the lady came out, they say, you know, it was in our who asked you to hold the address something Is that how to go about it? What is the essence of the intelligence gathering? Does it mean that this agency doesn't have any intelligence gathering units? You cannot just go to even if you're asked to go not there What is happening with that opportunity? They say, oh, it was a wrong address It was a mistake. It wasn't happening and the rest of them before you go to search a place You will say that there were movement the movement starting movement that is that are we not to Are you not supposed to limit yourself to so come on As and be able to take a look at this Invest against this for some time before you can go into the place I don't know what is wrong with our security agencies and they continue giving themselves bad names after they say Oh, Nigerians don't like the police But their art is not even helping Nigerians to maybe to like them. This is not how it is done across the globe And that's why we are complaining Okay, let's quickly check out the nation newspaper than that's this that's very interesting as well it talks about the anambra elections and Some candidates like and you bar chukuma soludo and valentino zigo calling for dialogue with ipop It seems like something interesting. Maybe there's hope. Do you see a possibility of Maybe ipop calling the sit at home or the before the elections Don't know what discussion last week. I mentioned that is made for us For us to have a dialogue But even before the thing to that I'm sure you must have said that You watch that Covernorship debate yesterday I laughed myself out some of the Positions and cataclysm for me from the three major candidates of the parties and So but it's good. That is what the base supposed to be. You're supposed to push your agenda I'll tell you because I'll tell you that in the bit of time it is the biggest platform for any candidate to be able to sell himself Because it's not every time you have the prime time spot on television or radio or whatever to be able to do Because if you know what it costs you so good or not, they're able to push out their Agenda and the programs on on that debate and then put those to them But after your question, I've always believed that Everything concerning the issue of ipop or agitation by any either ipop muscle In the whole group or whatever you call them. It can only end with dialogue The use of us has never worked anywhere in the world And that is what look at what happened in Afghanistan after 20 years of practically shutting down Bombing and rest of the U.S. Nature have to leave Afghanistan Because they knew that it was impossible to be able to continue So That is the same thing. I have always said that there is need for us to be able to have a holistic look at Let us continue to look at the message not the message and that has always been made for me I personally am not a member of I want to say it on this program But the fact is that most of the messages people Resonates with me and that is the issue of marginalization So if you have said that your people are marginalized and they have not been listened to there's always the tendency for people to engage Sorry, I believe that I personally With my exposure believe that we can engage more intellectually in pushing our agendas as a nibba man. I'm a nibba man I would rather prefer an intellectual debate and push agenda than going to the use of this kind of practice and rest of them But the first thing remains that I prefer not to have a strong vote in the southeast and I will beat it again. I'm sure I saw you I said last Of all the governors in the south is currently there's no one that is as popular as Namdee Kalu Putting up the Kalu bring all of them together. Let them be in ones But the five governors or whatever put them and putting them on the other side They're going to a nation Namdee Kalu would be them hands down Why because the people seem to resonate with what he's saying and the message is pushing And there's kind of failure within the Within the leaders because the youth go to youth and the people no longer trust their leaders So aren't we able to bridge that deficit? Then it becomes a problem. So that's the issue of trust between the people and the government So and the and the and the governors and those in government but for um a number Election on saturday must hold whether we like it or not that election must hold And it because on security agencies to make sure that election was good The way it is the only thing i'm seeing here is that it's going to be voters apart Because of the threat from ipod. You might not be able to see the that kind of high level of voters, uh, don't know and that itself affect the outcome of the election which means that at the end of it So whoever is going to get it who is going to get elected may not be the true choice quote and quote Of the people of Anambra state and that to me is where the problem lies. Yeah all right Back to the punch this morning It says here consumers demand privatization review as power generation drops to three thousand eight hundred and forty four megawatts There's also um fuel prices. Um the four queues resurface in nasa law abuja and Niger as marketers hike price If you can squeeze your thoughts in on those two stories Yeah, um power drop Not surprising I you can see You can see that in the past You see the correct government blaming the past government for the problems For the Nigerians and rest of them But you can see that as a systematic way of not doing that any longer If it was before i hear that oh the power has dropped from uh to uh three thousand you see a A large limo and oh it was because of pdpd wrote in pdp and we've given apc six years What have they done? What have they added to the national grid? They met the power at about four point eight to five thousand Now it has dropped to three thousand. Is that an improvement? during the campaign in 2015 the apc government promised that they're going to be adding close to about ten thousand To the national grid every year. What has been added? They've told us that the constant lights what has happened So, uh, it's not surprising. Rather what we're having on a daily basis is collapse of the national grid Now we're hearing that they're going to be an object of the discos and jencos and the rest of them What about what they do what ninjas just want its light give us light and the honest part of it is that Why this electricity is dropping? Nigerians are paying higher for electricity consumption on a monthly basis There's always this increase and what you control as in you say, what are you paying for? We have talked of mentoring all the homes. How many homes have the meter? Rather the discos will rather prepare estimated this because that's where they make bulk of the money You just give people lights Give them about 10 5 10 percent of electricity And at the end of it you want to you're charging them charging them so much and they have no alternative than to pay I think apart from what we talk about police and npc The next place where the anti-corruption agency like here to support the attention is the power sector This this coach must be investigated We have done so much when they started when it was so to them the federal government subsidized I gave them waivers in terms of stars and the rest of them We will pay them money to submit at the end of it. What I gave Instead of adding we are reducing from five thousand and three thousand now There you can see where we are. This is a serious problem. It's a serious issue On the peak one on the issue of a well crisis That's how I see it. I don't know the reason so I cannot speak much about Poor crisis within the south ways where I am. I know that people are moving in and buy Uh, uh, it's and I'm coming out of this issue. I don't know what the reason is for political cities in, um, natural states Okay Um, um, let's also talk about uh, quickly this one I think you probably would have us also mentioned that in the course of this The fact that depot owners are planning to increase or saying they're going to increase patrol By nine error Yes, well, they've always increased. Um until In as much as we continue to import petroleum now, let's be there You know, that was we are talking about revelation of the downstream sector of the Of the oil industry In fact, we have even gone to onboard most of these uh, agencies with the passage of the Petroleum art You can see that DPR DPR a and the rest of them used to be buried at the time of the price of Petroleum that that agency has described and replaced by the authority and the commission the two agencies have been set up We decided signing of that Act by the president But we'll continue to find ourselves where we are. Um, that there will always be increases in whether or not we do the right thing One the number one as we've always said, which has become like more of a brookly record Is the reviving of our various? refineries across Nigeria We continue to export good oil and import Petroleum products and that also means that we are dependent on foreign prices foreign for international price Prices if it goes up then we are in trouble if it goes down I don't know where we are but the issue is that as much as we continue to depend practically on about 99 percent of our petroleum income from Um outside Nigeria then we are in trouble. We need to do the need to I will go back to this government again as part of the promises They made in 2013 I'm going to ask myself in 2023 what would the APC government use to campaign because practically every thing they promise Nigeria's Have none of them have you between and A visual the way I think that Maybe there's also need for us to try a thought process with 5 pdp. It doesn't seem to work We try bpc. It doesn't seem to work. What's next? Who else are we going to do? Which party are we going to try? And I should be the conversation towards 2023 for me okay Well, of course there's still some time to continue to have those conversations and see if there's any possibilities and Um, not that force, you know would be able to you know step in what would say Chris wanted to thank you very much for your time on a Tuesday morning. We wish you a very beautiful day ahead Thank you so much for being part of the conversation And that's it. We hope to return with the uh paper review and definitely that will be tomorrow But in the meantime, we're going to tell you what happened today in history Now there are today been the second of november as of last year that's 2020 Baby shark video became the most watched video if you remember this ram I mean if you have kids at home, you would know what i'm talking about That shark baby shark video. It's a very catchy children's rhyme that was recorded by a south african I beg your pardon south korean company called ping phong And so it became the most watched video ever on youtube. The song was played 4.04 billion times overtaking the previous record holder of despacito that latin pop smash Smashed by singer louis fonce. If you also know that one If you also know that one seven point four Seven point zero four, okay billion times. That's when it was played now and he played back to back That would mean that baby shark had been streamed continuously for about 30,000 187 years ping phong stands to have more about uh, we're talking about money now 5.2 Million dollars in pounds. We're looking at four million pounds from youtube stream alone It took four years for baby shark to ascend to the top of youtube most played Uh, you know chat, however the moral lesson is that don't give up keep pushing should we sing that song? No, I don't I don't know how to I don't know how to and and and it's something that bothered me at some point Even if you eventually have a child you definitely know it bothered me because of how popular it was And I still had no clue what people were talking about Like so so yeah most of 2020 when when the baby shark song was going viral I had no clue what this thing that people are talking about You need to see how I really don't know why you know the song if you you need to see the way kids react to us that song So one of the things I've never actually watched I have it has a video. He has a video. I have never no you need to say it It's really interesting and very nice. I mean for the future for you That's what i'm talking about pretty much the same thing with the gagnam style video I never watched it's you know The whole of it, you know, I've seen a few clips here and there, you know But it was the most popular video on youtube at some point hit three billion I believe and more before despacito eventually took over and then now baby shark But I never also got to watch the gagnam style video So when where things become very very viral my my brain blocks it out For me, I actually think because I you know, I had presence on radio So I always had a time where I had to interact with kids So I was always on top of that, you know trying to get them up to speed with You know some of those rhymes and songs that would make them very happy. I don't know how to sing it Go ahead. I should sing it. Baby shark Okay, let's move away from that We should we step on the brakes right now and when we return we head straight to a very fast major conversation For the morning. Please stick around