 Welcome to JSA TV live the newsroom for telecom and data center professionals I'm Barb Mitchell coming to you today live from the floor of data cloud global Congress here in beautiful Monaco and Joining me is Walter Everard CEO of Silver Falcon data centers. Thank great to be here. Thank you so much for joining us It's it's been a busy week. I'm sure it has been for you. Definitely. Yeah Always so great to come and chat with new folks. This is our first time Talking and having an interview of this kind. So please to talk to you I know that there's a bit of a history, but Silver Falcon my understanding is you were founded in 2021 talk a little bit about that that history. So I think the our data center experience dates back a little bit longer, but the actual Incorporation of the company was in 2021 when we acquired a big Data center facility in Amsterdam, which was back in the day already known as being a very sustainable development in the port area West Boat It is let's say it comes from our history of Real estate development and urban redevelopment as we were developing a large New city in the city of Amsterdam at Southeast where there's also a lot of data center development going on so our location for the data center is a little bit more more northwest of the city and Well, perhaps I'll continue a little bit on on the data center itself It's a hundred MVA utility power 78 megawatts IT data center, which it consists of Three towers, so it's a phase approach kind of a campus approach where you have The the build of the tree towers we started with our first hour Last year so we finalize currently the on-site substation for hundred MVA and we Continued with the ground floor and the foundation so we're going up Pretty rapidly now because the the corn shell is going up by the end of this year In total the facility to give the number of ideas It's 106,000 square meters of development provides per tower nine data floors And that's already an interesting thing and probably bridges to some things. I wanted to talk about around sustainability We have done the design in a way that we can combine Traditional air cooling with all kinds of liquid and immersion cooling types of new technologies. So we're Except for just being sustainable We're also future-proofing in the sense that we as a data center provider, but also the sister companies firmly believe in Immersion cooling where it's two phase or one phase For the future because it helps us also to reuse the heat So, yeah, I mean just sort of recapping here So you have your company has a history in the data center space formally starting a silver Falcon data centers in 2021 And now you're building out this facility, which is set. I think to be fully ready to market in 2025 I believe is getting 25 potentially a little bit earlier for early access, but great So let's say 2025. That's that's ballpark what we aim for together with our clients Yeah, fantastic. And and I also understand that since the beginning you've been very focused on sustainability with a real effort and and promise to be you know a Green data center. So you've already talked about some aspects of that But but how are you really moving forward with that commitment? I think there's this this before we go into Let's say the seven items. I want to just take off with you It's a very genuine ambition from the group to be as sustainable as we can we saw also in the Real estate development that we're doing that by combining a number of proven technologies and techniques that we can Be more efficient with the energy that we use and for a founder it was more of a question how that Energy ecosystem or the energy balance of data centers could be Better used in an urban environment. That's why I think the location that we have except for excellent connectivity It's such an interesting Environment to be in because we can easily we capture the heat so on those seven points I think one of the things I already mentioned is by the design where we have immersion cooling together with traditional air cooling There we can easily Fall within the envelope that the municipality of Amsterdam allows for terms of PUE of 120. So on design We can do way better So we can have the discussion with our clients around the specific numbers, but it's it's it's a very interesting way For both parties to win On that development second one is water. It's it wasn't a big question when we acquired project two years ago It's getting more and more scrutiny these days and attention, especially for what is going on in certain parts of Europe, especially also in US and We are not using any drinking water for our cooling. So we are Using recycled water industrial water because we're in port areas another big big advantage of being at the location Where we are in the port area. Third one is the heat reuse heat reuse given that we are doing a combination of technologies we can Capture the heat better than in other data centers But we have a cooperation agreements with the municipality of Amsterdam and with a big utility company To reuse the heat in the district heating network because also again location We are 250 meters out of the district heating network So we can pump in all the heat and we can heat with the heat that we have around 85,000 hopes, so that's I think First big project big step in the Netherlands to do such a such a large heat recapture from data centers Fourth one is we're not using diesel using HBO for the gents That's potentially in the future looking at hydrogen because again, we're in port area There will be a hydrogen loop hydrogen grit in the in the area So if the technology the equipment is available, we'll look into that and probably for second or third phase Go for hydrogen as a backup power system We're building on a small plot, so we're not using a lot of land which is also I think very important from a sustainability agenda We're building the building in such a way that we could if we would ever Need to use the building for another purpose. You could repurpose it to residential or to office because the The clearance floor to ceiling is quite high so we can easily put a floor in between For those other functionalities that we can give the building and then last but at least it's an important one The way we build the core and shell is in such a way that we can dismantle the entire building And reuse whatever comes out So that's we've put a lot of attention to that from the start and I hope While we'll build while we're building and that that all of our stakeholders and clients will appreciate what we've done in design It's so nice to hear something, you know, just a really clear platform with these seven pillars that you're focused on and Thank you for sharing that and I'm sure a lot of folks that are Tuned in now, you know or or may want to connect with you here while in Monaco or after the show is over If they want to hear more, where can they go to connect with you? Well, they can they can look at our website, which is silver falcon dc.com There came they can find a four-page document with a number of let's say more essential information around the development And of course they can reach out to me or any of the colleagues through the contact details that are on the website Perfect. So everything you just outlined will be on a clear document for download on your website. Definitely Yeah, we're not making it a secret. So all the things that we're doing. It's it's any of those items is Proven technology So it's not rocket science, but the way we combine all those things Makes us we believe a very sustainable development. Fantastic. So important. Thank you Thank you for your time and really appreciate you taking the time out of what is a very very busy day of busy busy busy show So thank you for taking the time to talk to us And thank you viewers for tuning in to JSA TV live today from Data Cloud Global Congress until next time