 Hello everybody, Andrea Mayesty here with dental tutoring. My office is being painted right now So I'm doing some videos in my living room. So I hope you guys can see me and hear me okay But next week hopefully you guys will see my nice new office Or I should say a wall of my office because when I do the videos you can't exactly see the whole thing But I'm super excited. My blue walls will be gone, which I love blue. That's actually my favorite color But for a wall. No, I guess it's just not yeah No, at least not light blue because I shouldn't say that we have a dark blue in our hallway Which I love love love, but not the kind of like light blue that I had in my office Anyways, you guys don't want to hear about paint What I wanted to talk to you guys today about is ethics and law So I just did a session for my dental L member students. It was about an hour Just talking about privacy And consent so those are the main ones and I'm not going to talk about the whole session But I will talk to you guys about the key points So that way if you guys would like to learn more let me know because we weren't able to finish the whole thing We'll be doing another session in two weeks. So if you would like to attend live It's an excellent idea. If you are a member of dental out You have full access to everything live tutoring modules mock exams everything. So let me know But yeah, so just some of the key points were so in Ontario There's no age of consent meaning a six-year-old can say no to x-rays. They have that right So that was a big one that we talked about another thing was My goodness what I had it on the tip of my tongue. Oh, yes, the different forms of consent So there is verbal there is formal and there is implied So verbal is when you're just simply talking about something So if I say to a patient, I'll be doing a cleaning today and taking some some checkup x-rays and they say yes Okay, that is a verbal consent formal consent takes it a step further and that's preferred Um, because that is when they actually sign something. So if they sign that paper Where on the paper it says all about the pros and cons of x-rays why we're taking them and they sign Yes, I do agree to have x-rays taken that is formal consent implied consent is when they simply sit in the chair and That's implied that they are consenting to treatment because they confirmed their appointment They came to the dental office done, right? They have implied consent but this is where you have to be careful because the Formal consent through the written is preferred because anybody can say that they said something in Verbal consent, but you know, it's their word or your word against theirs, right? So the formal the written is always preferred Um, what else did I want to share with you guys that was confusing? So remember how I said that there's no age of consent in Ontario. That's very very true But that's where there's always a fine line because a 13 year old you would think the parents know best They know more which is true, but if they say no to x-rays, we have got to listen to that 13 year old I know it's pretty crazy, right and the real world things are a little bit different if I had a 13 year old Saving me. I don't want x-rays. I talked to them and say well your parents said yes for x-rays You had six cavities the last time we really should take the x-rays, but Would I force her or him to take the x-rays? No, but you know things are just different sometimes in the real world but for the board exam they have that right but I'm going to ask you guys a question. So I did talk about consent. So my question is Let's say you have known a patient for 30 years. Their last x-ray was taken two years ago But now they have said they don't want any more x-rays No way not happening and then you you have them sign a paper saying that they say no to x-rays Signed done and then a couple years later. They sue you because they now have advanced bone loss I mean, I shouldn't say sue you they sue the office or the dentist whatever that they have advanced bone loss now Who's right in this case? Is it the patient or is it the dentist or the hygienist who would win this case? So I'm actually not going to answer I'm going to let you guys comment below and let me know what you think so this will be fun So tell me what you think so I'll just recap that a little bit. So you have known your patient for many many years They have now decided that they don't want any x-rays taken at all They sign something on paper saying no to x-rays. So all it says on the paper is I Decline x-rays from now on The date is what's the date today October the 13th And they sign that and then they come back a couple years later and sue you Because they now realize that they have advanced bone loss But they didn't know and they're mad at you because you didn't help them or tell them that they have advanced bone loss Who wins in this case? Is it the dentist the the office the hygienist or is it the patient? Do they have a case yes or no? Let me know in the comments and then I will answer that for you all Okay, so let me know what you think and if you would like to hear more We are having our next ethics and law session in two weeks So if you are a member of dental L you are welcome. So let me know If you would like to come in you can see all of the info on the website at dental L calm And if you haven't yet make sure to hit subscribe because I do upload the videos often And thank you guys for watching and answer in the comments below I would love to hear what everybody thinks and have a good weekend and I will talk to you all very very soon