 You have the questions ready. We should start with. Okay, ready? Happy birthday! It's good, right? That's my first time trying this. Hey guys, welcome back to my channel. We have here Joe. Yes. We wanted to do a special one to say goodbye to our 20s. Because we'll be turning 30 in less than a month, like in three weeks or so. Yeah, but by the time this video goes up, my birthday pass and your birthday is tomorrow. Yeah. So we asked you guys to ask us some questions regarding our 20s, how we feel about turning 30. So thank you everyone who submitted the questions. I just want to say before we begin that we're still figuring it out. That's going to be our answer for some of the things, so let's just get started. Has adulting ended for you? One, two, three. No! It's just the beginning now, I feel like. I feel like it's going to be a forever process. Because every year you are growing, right? Yeah. I guess like when you are a teenager and you just turn into an adult, then it's like, oh yeah, I'm an adult now. But then once you're an adult, that's going to keep happening, right? I didn't feel like I was like an adult since I started living on my own. Before that I still felt like a teenager. And I read somewhere that you're not technically considered an adult until you're like 25. Oh, really? So yeah, it's only been five years since we've been adults and it's still continuing. I still feel very much lost at times. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't have everything on lockdown financially or mentally or in all aspects, so we're still figuring it out. And that's why I'm like, when is my adulting series going to end? Never! It's never going to end. Never going to end. Do you guys see each other doing wine spill videos in like 20 years? Yeah. All the time. Only 50? I know. We'll still be enjoying life, getting together, drinking wine, having girl talk. I feel like the alcohol choice might change over the years. Like maybe like a stronger drink, but I feel like... You already drink strong drinks now, really. I like it too whiskey, but you know, we're going to keep it wine spill. I feel like we're going to like wine for a long time and our friendship is going to be like fine wine. It's going to age really well and beautifully. We are also going to age like fine wine. Oh my gosh, I know. Thank you guys so much for leaving comments about how we still look 20. Yeah, they were like, you guys, thanks. Asians don't resin. Oh my gosh, nobody hits. There's like a meaning about how it hits you all at menopause. Yeah. And we're going to get those Adroma perms. Yes. And the colorful t-shirts, colorful hiking gear. Yeah. No, that would not hurt. We're going to stay sassy. Stay sassy, midi, classy, bougie. I'd say that's so wrong. Oh my gosh, ratchet up 50. You both seem very driven. Did you ever feel lost in your 20s and how did you deal with it? I mean, I would definitely say Joan is really driven. You are too though. No, but I don't work at your level. No, no, no. I don't work as hard as you. No, but like the thing is... You know how your contract with your entertainment company, when it ended, you literally went 180. You did. You pretty much said yes to everything, no matter how demanding it was. And when I saw that, I was like, oh wow, like super driven and you're very good at what you do. I think when they say we're driven, I think what they see now and how much you have transformed from after you left your company to now, like you are so driven. I always say that to you. I'm always like, dude, I wish I had the power to go do radio after a long day and end at 10. That requires energy, you know? So give yourself credit. I always say this to you. Well, like a big chunk of my life of my 20s was spent as a K-pop idol or in the industry. Not this, you were a K-pop idol. No, I just don't like the word idol. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, in the K-pop world. Seven years of my life actually from the... No, actually a little more than that. So from like 21 to 27. Yeah, that's almost a decade. Yeah, I felt very lost because there were so many moments or points in the career where it was like, it was so unstable, you know? It seemed like we were doing well one second and then it seemed like we weren't. Right. And then I was just like, where am I going to be, you know, in like five years because you never know with the entertainment industry. You never know where you're going to end up. You might be doing super well, but it might be downhill from there. You might not be doing well, but then all of a sudden you get super lucky and you get like this awesome opportunity and you end up being like a superstar. So I think I always felt a little worried and just unaware, unsure of what my life was going to be like. Right. And how did I deal with it? I think, you know, this question, there really isn't an answer because when life goes on, right, you're going to just follow along. Like I think how you react to certain outcomes or opportunities. It's all so random. And I think that's something I'm learning like more and more now. Like you cannot predict what's going to happen. You can't have a five year plan because look what COVID did to us. You know, like I, none of us predicted this. So how do we deal with it? We just kind of like go with it and we'll figure it out on the way. To be honest, right? I don't think there was like a specific answer for me to be like, yeah, this is how I handled my crisis at the age 22. I feel like I just went with it. I went with the flow and here we are now. Right. And that's just reality. Yeah. I feel like everyone has a different journey. Everyone has a different journey. Your life as a trainee and idol is so different from how I started my career too. Even, right? Yeah. So you can't predict anything. That's just something I learned more and more throughout this pandemic. What are some things you regret not doing in your 20s? Where were you 10 years ago? 10 years ago. I just got to Korea and started training. I graduated high school in 2010 because my birthday was late. I know you graduated a year before me. Yeah. But I'm 2010. I graduated then and then I went to college in 2011. Yeah, that was like my freshman year, sophomore year. Wow. Yeah, it's totally different. It's not really me not doing it. It's more of like I didn't get the chance to do it because I was a trainee and I was in the entertainment industry. But I really wish I could have worked part-time jobs because I think it would have taught me the lesson of how valuable money is. When I was training, I basically lived off of my parents' allowance from the year like 20 to basically when my contract ended. I didn't really think much of it back then. I was just like, oh, I'm lucky. I don't have to work a part-time job. I don't have to make money. But also after getting out of the contract and looking back, I realized that I thought making money was so easy. At the same time, I didn't think it was because I never got paid while I was doing ladies' coat stuff. But then I was like, oh, I thought that was normal in the industry. After I ended and I started working and getting paid on my own, I was like, damn, it's freaking hard to make money. So if I did work more part-time jobs, I think it would have given me a sense of being able to be more hardworking. You are hardworking. I will say this. From my observation, what idols do, like I know you hate that term, what you guys do is a lot of work. It may look easy for a fan or a viewer, but the time and effort that goes into dance practice, singing lessons, making a song, singing the song, recording it and performing it in front of hundreds and thousands of people and not just that with the whole online world. It's not just hundreds and thousands of people. It's going to get reused and re-uploaded so many times. So you literally are doing so much work and it sucks that you guys feel so undervalued for that. Does that make sense? Because I feel like what you did from the beginning to now, I would have never been able to survive that because my temper, I don't know, I feel like I just wouldn't have been like, oh, I can't do this. But I don't want you to feel like, oh, I wish I did that. I wish I did that. You just got fucked. Like honestly speaking, you did because you signed that contract because you thought that they were going to pay you, oh my gosh, I hope I don't get canceled but I'm not going to audition or anything so whatever. But it just seems like they just took advantage of all of you guys' hard work because I've met your members. They all work super hard and even you too. And the time, like time is so valuable. As we age, I learn more and more about how precious time is and the fact that they took seven years of your life never pays you for any of that. Overworked you all the time. When I first met you, you were like, I have to go to practice. I'm like, for what? And then you're like, I just got to go practice this song or dance and it sucks to see that you feel like you didn't work enough in your 20s because everything you were doing as a trainee is work. That was your job. They just didn't pay you for it. Yeah, that's why I think entertainment companies should pay their artists, even if it's a little amount, even if it's like a small 5% or 10% because I think when you see that your hard work pays off and you see that money in your bank account it drives you to work harder. I know some people may be like, well, you have to use your passion and you have to follow your passion and do it out of love but I know a lot of my fellow K-pop idol friends who weren't doing so well and then they started doing better and they started getting paid little by little. I remember seeing how driven they were by that and how motivated they were. I know not a lot of companies are financially well off to be able to do that but I think it's just basic courtesy. Just how we run our country, even economy and whatnot. Even that, it sucks to hear, oh my gosh, we're exposing this industry right now for our 30s video. They have money. They just use it in the wrong places. That's the problem. Yeah, that's true. Exposing now. Oh my gosh, they're gonna be like, who is this girl, Joan? I was like, never worked in the entertainment industry. I'm like, how does she know so much? And it just sucked because I was so much older than the other people in the industry. I debuted at a pretty late age. It was like 22 or 23. And everybody else was still in their teens or early 20s so it was kind of socially acceptable for them to live off their parents' allowance. But here I am at like 26, 27. Not being able to do things I fully want because I have to use my parents' allowance and of course I'm not gonna freely use everything because I feel sorry and I feel terrible that I still have to borrow from them at this age. So I remember just always nunchi buying if my friends wanted to go out or something nice I would always have to think twice and say no a lot and the thing I love now is that I am financially independent and we have full control over how I spend and how I save. But it's just that I wish I got to know the value of money at a younger age. Oh yeah, that was the question. I feel like I'm in a full circle. This is what we do for our wine nights anyways. She was like, oh my gosh, am I gonna be able to share some tips? I'm like, Ashley, it's literally gonna be our weekly thing. My regrets in my 20s. I really didn't think about this. I saw the question but I didn't even think about it. I was like, cool, cool, cool. Regrets in my 20s, I feel like I lived my 20s to how I imagined it to be. But I guess a regret that I can't also control is I don't think I was happy. I think I was just kind of like, okay, I'm gonna do it, do, do, do, do. And so I think something I wanna focus on for the next decade is I wanna focus on being a little bit more in control because I feel like even though as a freelance, people think, oh my gosh, freelance is the way to go. You don't have to do nine to five but there's so much control involved and I have to be very disciplined for that and not everyone can do it. For you, sometimes it's like 8 to 11. No, I'm dreaming about mistakes that I dream about, oh my gosh, I uploaded on the wrong day. It's like what I sleep with and so I think I just wanna kind of enjoy life more. I think that is something, I'm not saying, oh my gosh, my 20s was a waste. No, I did enjoy it. I just feel like mentally I just wasn't in the same level as how it seemed, how it was perceived on social media, if that makes sense. And so I think that's just something I'm trying to work on and I have been getting better at it because before I would be so paranoid if I missed a week of upload but now I'm just like, you know, it's okay, everyone's gonna understand and just let it go. Yeah, kind of thing. So I think just being a little bit easy on myself, I think that is something sort of, like if that makes sense, I don't know. You hustled so much during your 20s and that's why I feel, I hope that you get to enjoy, actually enjoy your life a little more in your 30s because you deserve it. But I do enjoy life. I love hanging out with all of y'all and just in general, I was able to travel so much in my 20s but I think when I sit back and look, I'm like, was I doing that for myself? I think that is what I always think about these days because I felt like I was just on the go all the time. Yeah, that's not a regret though. So I don't have any regrets in my 20s and I think I'm very blessed for that. I just want to do better in my 30s. What can you say to your 20s self? It might sound cliche but I would tell myself to not be so afraid of failure. I think I avoided so many things because I'm like so afraid of failure that I try to act like I wasn't into that or I didn't want to do that because I didn't want to actually try and go for it and I don't want to get hit with the failure or even rejection. So I remember just shying away from so many different opportunities or things that I could have done just because I was afraid of not working out in the end. But 20s is all about failure. It's about failing and trying again and failing again and trying again because those failures will help you grow and I just wish that I could have taken more chances instead of just being like, no, no, I'm okay with that when it's inside. I was like, I desperately want that but I'm just scared to go for it because I don't want to seem like a failure. I agree with you. Like 20s, there's so much pressure because you're just leaving your teenage years and now you have the two in front of your age. I would tell my 20, 20-year-old Joan I would say, you're not all that. I would say calm down. You have so much more time. You don't have to hustle this fast. Just slow down, take it easy because you have so many years ahead of you. Slow down. And not feel too pressured by everything. I think the reason why I talk about college so often is because it was one of the chapters in my life where I learned a lot and I had the most fun in college. But then in the moment, I was so stressed out and I was like, oh my gosh, I hate school. I hope to graduate ASAP. But I would tell myself now, enjoy that because that time won't come back unless you go to grad school, but grad school is going to be different. So enjoy your youth. We hear that so often when we're young but it is so true because it gets harder when you're adulting. I would also tell myself to stop being so tight. I think because I don't want it to be that perfect little daughter, perfect little sister, perfect leader, perfect friend. Ashley, I know it's so crazy. I never thought you were uptight when I first met you. I changed the line. Yeah, when people were telling me about how uptight she was, I was like, she's not uptight. You're not like that anymore. I think I just confused being a good leader with being uptight. I know I could have been more lenient and just in all aspects, just a little laid back and more chill, but I think all those responsibilities just pressured me so much to be uptight about everything and be like, no, no, no, I'm going to be the best person. I'm going to be someone that people can look up to. But I feel like I missed out on so many good moments because of that. You did what you had to do as a leader. You did a great job. You really did. You need to give yourself more credit. I would tell 20-year-old Ashley, give yourself more credit. Not a question, but please take a sip of your wine. Thank you. Thank you. What are you looking forward to in your 30s? I feel like I'm still going to be working super hard because I just started making money on my own like two years ago. But I really want to travel more. Travel alone. I would like to travel alone because I feel like you discover so much about yourself when you're in an unknown, foreign place with people that don't really speak your language and you just have time to focus on yourself and what you really want. There was only one time I got to travel alone and it wasn't even really alone. I went to Japan and I stayed with Lisa's family at their house but I did roam around by myself to the local towns and stuff and I loved that so much and I didn't get a lot of opportunity to do that in my 20s so I'm hoping to do that in my 30s and to get to know myself better. We have to make a trip to like Europe and for one of the days we'd be like alright Ashley, today you can do whatever you want and I'm gonna do whatever I want. We'll meet here at 6 o'clock. That'll be fun because we'll just like focus on what matters to us or you know I think we all need that like chayu yoheng? I don't know how to translate that. Freedom yoheng? Freedom vacation? It translates really weird. Yeah and then we can meet back up and share with each other. What we did! That'd be cute. Okay we're gonna do that. No matter what. Please, we have to. We always talk about it. I think working in social media it was such a blessing and I'm very thankful for all of the support but like there were so many moments where I felt like I was living for that and I always try to catch myself before that happens because it's time to enjoy it turn off the camera and I feel like I do a pretty good job at it but I just feel like it's always in the back of my mind if that makes sense do you know what I mean? And so I'm constantly thinking about it and even though like I do a good job at like you know dividing everything I just want to like pressure myself less and I think that is what I look forward to in my 30s because yeah I want to slow down a little bit and I've been saying this since 2019 like I remember like all of like our friends we were like we were so cute we were like sitting in this like large circle and we're like alright so what is your years resolution do you remember that? yeah I remember what I said though I really don't remember what I said no you I think you said something about like work because that was the last year you were tied down to your company it's like three months before it was tied down I think it was something in the lines of that I just remember everyone like shared what they like wanted and then COVID hit so we never got to follow up like so did your years resolution come true but it was just that's been something that I wanted to work on since like 2019 so hopefully when I actually turn 30 I'll be able to really incorporate that into my lifestyle I want to also like take off some financial burden for my parents as well just because they've done so much for me like I said before they provided for me for like eight years I was in Korea by myself practicing and even after I debuted so I want to be able to spend more time with them see them more often because I realized we don't have a lot of time with them left and also like okay we lived I lived with them until I was 20 and then I've been here for 10 years now and I don't know if I'm ever going to live with them again so it's like how often am I going to see them maybe like if they move to Korea then maybe I'll see them more often but if not I'll maybe see them like max twice a year or something or for like two weeks at a time and just realize that we are not going to be able to spend that much time together so in my 30s I hope to be able to just spend more time with them and also provide for them so they're not as stressed and burdened by financial stuff yeah oh my gosh just so that's so beautiful I mean you've been doing that already since you were in your 20s no I think that's why I love hearing that because it's like it is a struggle but like you will be great at it you grow so much by doing that and so I love hearing that whenever like you say that or like our friends say that I'm always like oh like yes we're all on the same page last question is how does it feel turning 30 together as friends honestly it's so it feels so dependable yeah and I just feel like I have a very strong tree to lean on because I'm a very strong tree yes we're kind of doing similar work so we relate to each other in that sense and just get each other in terms of where we are in life and I feel like no matter what comes our way you know I'll be able to talk to her about it and vent to her and cry and go through these things together yes so I'm really excited for our next 10 years oh my gosh like turning 40 wine spell episode nobody's gonna watch that with you on that like as mentioned earlier I graduated with students who were born in 92 so they were all like slightly younger but they would be like February 92 so we would be like a few months I don't know but when I meet people who were born in 1991 which we don't have a lot of those I get so excited so when you told me you were born in 1991 I was like oh my gosh and like what was it like last weekend Aaron and my friend from college her name was Ashley too we were all meeting and we all got excited because we were all born in 1991 it was I don't know like for me because I went to school with kids who were always a year younger than me I always felt like I don't know I never could relate to the monkeys like the monkey ear or just in general like I always felt like oh my gosh am I too old for this like whatever but then when I met you I was like oh my gosh like she's my age and you know like that felt comforting to me when I first met you I don't I never said this to you but I never had a lot of friends who were born in 1991 like literally we lived so close to each other we it's just like so convenient and every time we were going through something like she'd be like what are you doing and we were like FaceTime I just feel very comfortable with you yeah so it's nice and I think like the whole idea of like turning pretty the number is scary for some reason but I feel like the number will be scarier in the year 40 you know what I mean I feel like excited about 30 because I still feel very young and I still feel like there's so much more to do and like even like us being like okay we have to travel together and have our own like solo time too like I think that would be like a new chapter and a chapter that is more independent at the same time does that make sense like I feel like our 30s will be able to enjoy life together and not have to worry too much about like other factors as well because I feel like in our 20s we were so like worried about like saving money or making money but in our 30s I feel like we have we're like okay let's just like let it go a little bit and treat ourselves once in a while and I feel like we can do that I am very grateful that we can turn 30 and it's not like you're turning 30 like a month ahead it's like days days apart so even that is cool three days behind you girls yeah I think it's just having like a girlfriend by your side to get through these life events with it's very special and of course yeah I'm very grateful for it yeah me too just think that 30s will be like hopefully it'll be like a breeze yeah but not too fast I don't want it to go by like slow down I really can't imagine what's gonna happen in our 30s like I don't know right what's going to happen but I am I am all for surprises and you know I'm looking forward to whatever it may be I think I'm gonna get to know myself better in my 30s even though it may sound late it's never too late never too late and I'm still going to take risks and do what I love yeah cheers to life cheers but I'm done so have a little sip okay thank you that was like a very generous pour I love it yeah so there's gonna be a part 2 on Jo's channel where we answer more questions so please go and watch it don't stop here yeah I haven't filmed it yet but there might be more interesting questions on her channel we're ready to be 30 and flirty and thriving yes so if you are around our age don't be scared yeah 3-0 I mean it's just a number I mean people will look at you differently but just be like as long as you have like that childlike heart yeah feel like you won't age yeah don't take it too seriously now that I look at life I'm like learning to go with the flow and ride the wind is that even a saying? I don't know I love it thank you for wishing us a happy birthday yeah and I hope you guys will look forward to our 30s too cheers bye bye oh sorry oh my god cheers bye